1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm just mount that action also. All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Throwing spect I'm sitting it to cash touch time. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: go to wind. That's incredible being bank small banks, I 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: like to make money. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: All right, this is the ultimate kabine you want to 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: fall and we are underway. 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: I am your host, Evan Abrams, and I am joined 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: as always by the one, the only, Brandon Anderson. I 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: mean today, it's simple. We've got Week eighteen right around 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: the corner. All these games on Saturday, and then you've 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: got the Sunday games followed by Minnesota and Detroit on 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Sunday Night football before we find out the entire playoff 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: bracket and field. But Brandon, what's going on? How are 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: you taking in this entire week? So much to talk about, 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: so many different games and angles. It's a great one. 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: What do you got here? 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Week eighteen? Man, it felt like we just started 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the season not long ago. I remember we had this 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: new podcast. We're like, okay, three best bets. Maybe you'll 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: sneak an escalator in there. Here we are a week eighteen. 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: We got like goofy slate, terrible games for the most part. 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Don't worry everyone, I got seven best bets. I got 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: escalators and every single one of them. Like, we're digging in. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun this year and hopefully 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: can close out the year on the good now. Plus, 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: of course we got the playoff games to come to. 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: But twenty twenty five rang the new year. Ready for 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, a little wrap up football this week, a 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: little kind of pre postseason, preseason type football. But I 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: think we still have some fun angles here. Ready to 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: watch some games college football on the days in between, 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: just football every day and the holiday season right now. 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to hit a point when like the 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: playoffs happen and the balls are done and everyone asks themselves, 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: where's the foot? But right now it is every day 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: and all the time, which is awesome. But this week 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: is really just a hodge todge. I think it's the 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: easiest way to call it. But the equal sign is motivation, 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: and that's what everyone tries to handicap when you go, 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: we gamed a game here. I think we need to 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: start and we're going to go one by one on 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: a few topics before we hit your best sets. But 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: we're gonna start with what is the biggest thing you 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: really learned from Week seventeen. I'll let you start here, 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: but the week that was before you got here, what 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: is the biggest thing you think that mattered? 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: I think jokingly the thing I learned is maybe we 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: don't need football in nine standalone windows from the NFL. 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: For the week, we got a lot of not great 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Island games, and by the time we got the Sunday, 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the day with all the football like, it was a 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: rough out here. I know I missed the recap pod, 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: but there was not a lot of recapping the recap 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday, so that was one last and otherwise it 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: feels forever going now. But way back on Christmas, I 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: thought the Ravens and the Texans just showed us they're 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: exactly who we thought they've been all season. The Ravens 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: look great, look like LEGISA Bowl contenders with the Super 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Bowl defense now in particular, in that game held hold 63 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: at Texans to two points really zero because just the 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: safety the offense gave up. And I thought Houston in 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: that game sort of looked like and played like a 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: team that their season was over, Like oh this is 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: the game we got eliminated from the playoffs. No, No, 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: your division champions, that was your celebration victory lap game. 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about them. We've doubted the Texans all year. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: We've been backing the Ravens. I think that game just 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: showed us exactly what we thought those teams looked like 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: heading into the postseason. 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think you're pretty much on 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: point there in terms of the teams. 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: That played well. 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: The one thing I was going to say is, like, 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: what I've learned from Week seventeen was kind of Buffalo's 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: defense is still a bit of an issue in something 80 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep an eye on. I understood, Yeah, listen, 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: forty to fourteen, we get it. But the second Rogers 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: leaves and I don't really know what we have left 83 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: of Rogers. Tyrod kind of goes down the field twice, 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: and that's kind of what we've seen of Buffalo's defense. 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see who they get. But 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: just some quick hitters on Week seventeen, Kyler was Kyler 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: kind of exactly how we felt he would be. Was 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: what he ended up being. Jaden's run ability. Jaden Daniels's 89 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: runability feels like it's going to be a storyline for 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: whoever Washington gets in the playoffs. His ability to make 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: plays is kind of something we haven't seen in a rookie, 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: and it'll be interesting how he takes that environment. God, 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: this week sucked. Was my next note, which is exactly 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: what you said. It's just the slate was pretty terrible. 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: I kind of thought that I was. I don't think 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: I knew by the end of the week, and now 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: looking at Cleveland and Baltimore this week that Cleveland is 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: four and twelve against the spread. This year, we've been 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: talking so much about the Titans. I don't think I 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: really knew how bad they were. They're on like a 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: four or five game ats losing streak and during this 102 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: one we'll talk about in a minute. But those are 103 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: my surprises, or at least things I was thinking about 104 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: when it comes to week seventeen. 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next. 106 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: Topic here, which is any future you would add entering 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: this week kind of before all these games in the 108 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: playoff field is set. What did you have here? I 109 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: have a quick thought after, but nothing crazy. 110 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a couple to reiterate. We talked last 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: week about Bengals Super Bowl ticket. The odds went longer now, 112 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: even though the Bengals won the game last week. So 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty to one. Obviously it's a crazy 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: long shot. They still don't have a defense. But if 115 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: I get Joe Burrow and those receivers, I think they 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: give me a shot. And if I get in the 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati would play at Buffalo. If they win that, they'd 118 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: have to go at Kansas City. All right, well they're underdogs, 119 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: but we all know the Bengals can hang and score 120 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: points in those games and have a chance, and then 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: you're at the final four teams and then you at 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: least at a hedge opportunity. So I think just a 123 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: crazy nibble on a long shot. The other one we've 124 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: talked about two Packers to win the UNCA is eight 125 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: to one. Now right now, I think we're getting a 126 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: slight discount on that number. This is a team that 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: lost last week, has not played well against the top 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: NFC teams. But I still think the NFC is where 129 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: the real sleeper team you want is. And right now 130 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: it's a discount because the Packers are the seventh seed. 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Lind up to play the Eagles, and last Washington loses 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: this week, which I think is very much in play 133 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and and Green Bay moves up a slot and gets 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: a much better path after that. If that's the case, 135 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Because that's a possibility, I think we're getting a little 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: discount on the eight to one number to win the NFC. 137 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: I do think for NFC teams you want NFC ticket 138 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and not Super Bowl because I think the AFC team 139 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: is going to be favored once we get there. But 140 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: those would be two for me. What sticks out to you? 141 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep staring at Pittsburgh at fifty to one, 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: just knowing what they can do on defense. And the 143 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: thing that's crazy to me as well is, I mean 144 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: the stigma on Tomlins. 145 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: He has been he can't win in the playoffs recently. 146 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 3: He's also like a lot of games when you just 147 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: look at the stats, you know, since they've kind of 148 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: had their glory days. He gets there, he finishes about 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: five hundred, but they really win the games. But I 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: still think fifty to one it's a little long. And 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: then I just thought this was interesting. Rams Chargers, Commanders, 152 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: they're all thirty five to one, basically priced the same 153 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: in the market. So I was trying to decide to myself, like, 154 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: which of those teams would I be most interested in? 155 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: Probably in order, it's Commanders, Chargers, Rams potentially just based 156 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: on who they would have to face. I know the 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Rams might get the Lions depending on what happens here 158 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: on Sunday Night football. So just overall some interesting thoughts. 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the next topic here, which 160 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: is Black Monday. It's just a head coaching topic, Like 161 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: if you had to predict which of these guys you 162 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: think's gonna get the slip first. I don't think there's 163 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: a lot to choose from since a few of the 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: top candidates have already been let go, but gied Mayo 165 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: was one for me. Jeff Ulbrick, I think they're gonna 166 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: open up that Jets job either way. Antonio Pears, but 167 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: they've won two in a row, Like I don't necessarily 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: know if Davis is even why the family in general, 169 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Like do they care for is Brady even watching? Like 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: I think they're probably moving on. But those are my 171 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: three candidates. But I think you know the Dennis Allen's 172 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: already out the door. 173 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jet Saints and Bears already fired their coach, 174 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: so that one doesn't really even count those are interims. 175 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I do think those three guys are all gone. The 176 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: interim thing is not getting well for guys that keep 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: that job. See also Antonio Pierce. It's had a few 178 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: categories here. I think Pierce with the Raiders fits in 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: with McCarthy and the Cowboys and Stefanski and the Browns 180 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: as shouldn't be safe, but probably are. I don't think 181 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: those guys are going anywhere. I think the Raiders have 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: a real chance to end the year on a three 183 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: game winning streak. The Browns are just cheap. Jerry Jones, 184 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing those jobs. I would 185 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: love to see something new for those teams. I don't 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: think they will Gerrod Mayo, and I think Brian Callahan 187 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: and Tennessee. If you ad tune fourteen ats, you're doing 188 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: something wrong. 189 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: Maybe first year coaches. 190 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: I put probably safe, but I wouldn't be shocked to 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: see a team just try something new. Those are pretty 192 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: stable franchises historically, so they're not necessarily like a team 193 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: that I would expect to do something crazy. So I've 194 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: got I'm putting the number at four. Here's the numbers 195 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I got for you. I think Brian Dable with the Giants, 196 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: I think he's done. You start over, you get a 197 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: top four pick. I think it's just time to get 198 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: the new coach, new quarterback, kind of start fresh. Jacksonville 199 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: plays Indianapolis this week. I think they're both done. I 200 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: think both guys it's time to start fresh. That division 201 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: was so bad this year and neither one of those 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: teams even got close to contending in a division that 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: was just there for anyone to take. So I think 204 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: stike In the way the Colts lost down the stretch 205 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: this season with the Jonathan Taylor fumble and then the 206 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: game last week against the Giants, I think you just 207 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: need a fresh start. I like stik In personally, but 208 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to do something. And Doug 209 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: Peterson with the funeral escalator like a month or two ago, 210 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's still working out here. 211 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: He's still going around he is. 212 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: And then here's my surprise pick. And I'm kind of 213 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: hedging a little bit. I'm telling you that on Monday, 214 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: either Mike McDaniel or Zach Taylor is getting fired. One 215 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: of those teams maybe both are missing the playoffs. I 216 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: think that one or both of those teams are gonna 217 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: look real hard at we think we're super well contenders, 218 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: we're not sure we can get there the way things 219 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: are looking right now, and we can't do a lot 220 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: of other changes where we make a change. Maybe the 221 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: head coach, what do you think about Taylor McDaniel. 222 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so I was gonna say Taylor because Taylor is 223 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: always on my list. McDaniel wasn't one I even really 224 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: thought of. But I do think that's a good dark horse. 225 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: The one thing you got wrong on Zach Taylor's They're 226 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: gonna do it Sunday morning, right like they lose Saturday 227 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: they lose, they lose Saturday night, Like you're gonna wake 228 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: up trying to figure out what's going on in the 229 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: playoff race, and they're gonna be like Zach Taylor got fired. 230 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: But that is most likely this scenario. I think the 231 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: Dable one is kind of interesting. I mean that, you know, 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: finishing a little hot, they like him as a head coach. 233 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't know that one would be interesting going that direction, 234 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: especially if you keep winning and you end up getting 235 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: like the seventh or eighth pick. Kind of a crappy 236 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: situation there, but all right, let's keep going award season. Basically, 237 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: the question here is can any award be impacted by 238 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: what will happen in week eighteen? And obviously our opinions 239 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: you can go first year, and I have a quick. 240 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Thought, Yeah, I think there's one. I don't think MVP 241 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be up for grabs. Josh Allen's not expected 242 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: to play much, and Lamar Jackson's playing a preseason game 243 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: against the Crown, So I think I think that topic 244 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: is done. Thank god, I can't handle any more MVP 245 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: discourse this year. I think DPOI still is up for 246 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: grabs this weekend. We saw in the middle of this 247 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: week finally TG a lot, who I think has been 248 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the favorite ever since Anon Hutchinson got hurt, finally is 249 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: no longer the favorite. Patrick's certained past him mid this week, 250 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: which that should tell us something as better as if 251 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of the week not because of a game, 252 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: not because of anything that happened, but because of like 253 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: social media conversations basically suddenly cow out of steam. That 254 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: should tell you to be careful about like, don't just 255 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: look at the book in the odds and be like, oh, okay, 256 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: well certain's gonna win, and like no, it's just like 257 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: some Twitter people decided to have a conversation and I'll 258 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: put their money on it and chase the steam that way. 259 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Both of those guys are playing in games for basically 260 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: that last playoff spot in the field. I think TJ. A. 261 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Watt could have a big moment against the Bengals knock 262 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: them out of the playoffs, the hot team no one 263 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: wants to face, or maybe Denver against Carson Wentz. Maybe 264 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Certan has a big game or big moment there. I 265 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: think one of those two has a big moment, or 266 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: maybe neither, And I'm not sure. I'd be totally shocked 267 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to see neither one of those guys. And some other 268 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: crazy sort of dark cords at this point emerged that 269 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: to me is the one award that still seems a 270 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: little bit up for grabs, all. 271 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: Right, one by one MVP in my opinion, I think 272 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: Lamar on Saturday afternoon in front of an audience, puts 273 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: up a trillion yards and runs around, And I think 274 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: the angle you're gonna talk about later is Derrick Henry, 275 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: which the same thing could happen here like, I think 276 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: the motivation to just being in front of an audience 277 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: is interesting. I think it's still a race, but I 278 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: think you're probably right it's over. Saquan's Offensive Player of 279 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: the Year is a lock. I do think the defensive 280 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: Player of the Year is an interesting category. I wanted 281 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: to bring up Kirby Joseph, who obviously two interceptions up 282 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: to nine this week he's twenty to one, but I 283 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: just don't necessarily see how that's gonna happen. I want 284 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: to say Miles Garrett, but they're just not winning any games. 285 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: So like, even if say they beat the Ravens, right 286 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: and all this crazy stuff happens on Saturday and he 287 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: has a bunch of sacks, I don't even know if 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: that's necessarily enough to be a part of the conversation 289 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: given the year. So I think Watt could do it 290 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: in front of an audience, but Certin's probably the rightful 291 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: favorite at this point. 292 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: Versus Rookie of the Year. 293 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: I think Darnold could win this award Sunday Night comeback 294 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: player of the Year. I think the one thing that 295 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: could happen here is even if Burrow plays well and 296 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: they win and maybe Denver gets into the playoffs, so 297 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: that storyline gets halted a little bit. Donald did plus 298 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: one seventy being back in the market after we had 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: this whole associated press what is this ward about? And 300 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, he's plus one seventy. I 301 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: do think they beat the Lions, and the money line 302 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: price is probably right around the same plus one seventy. 303 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: Either way, I think Donald probably has a shot and 304 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: O'Connell's already won that award. You don't have a win 305 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: total of six and a half and finished fourteen and 306 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: two or whatever and not win that. So that is 307 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: my opinion of the situation. All right, This one's a 308 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: simple one. What's the one game you don't want to 309 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: have any action on this weekend? 310 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I got four and they're all from two divisions. I'm 311 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: not bending anything on the NFC West So Seattle, Rams, 312 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Arizona, and I got nothing on the AFC 313 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: South Houston, Tennessee at Jacksonville, India and Minneapolis. The two 314 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: teams and those bad divisions have already won divisions and 315 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: look to be resting everyone else. I just I got nothing. 316 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I have no props, I have no angles on that 317 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: don't need to watch those games. I don't need to 318 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: pay attention to them normally on any game any given 319 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: a week. I literally had an article last year having 320 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: a bet on every team every game. I got nothing 321 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: on these teams. I put like three minutes of prepping 322 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: doing I was like, Nah, you're out of here. Let's 323 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: play some real games. 324 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: I have no interest in Buffalo New England. I just 325 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: can't even spend my time thinking about one series and 326 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: all that different type of stuff. It just means nothing 327 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: to me. I can probably find some sort of dumb 328 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: angle on most of these games. That one I just 329 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: have no interest in because A I don't trust you're 330 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: odd Mayo. I don't even know if may is going 331 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: to play enough for if he should play, and Josh 332 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: Allen's gonna play one series to continue as streak. So 333 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: all right, let's talk Detroit Minnesota quickly, just because just 334 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: so big of a game, the playoff circumstances around it, 335 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: and honestly how rare it is. But I'll let you start, like, 336 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: what's your breakdown here, what's your thought process? You know, 337 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: kind of dive in. 338 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to put this one in the top 339 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: because I don't have a bet coming up on this one, 340 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: so for me, this is a no bet, but not 341 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: as like those other teams. I'm already betting with my heart. 342 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm a Vikings fan. The whole region out hearing me 343 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: watching the game. This is being billed as the biggest 344 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: regular season game ever. It might very well be, because 345 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I honestly think this is a Super Bowl elimination game. 346 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that you can count on Jared Goff 347 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: or Sam Darnald to go on the road with no 348 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: rest and go win three road games in all likelihood 349 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl. Is an underdog. I think 350 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: that's just asking way too much for Golf and Donald 351 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: and for what these teams are for the game. The 352 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: profiles of these teams are changing a little bit. The 353 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: Vikings we think of as this really good defensive team 354 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: with just enough offense. The defense is slipped to more 355 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: like seventh to tenth, like bottom of the top ten. 356 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: They're a top passing offense. Now, they've been a top 357 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: five passing offense the entire back half of the season, 358 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: and that I think is the key matchup here, because 359 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: we already know the Lions defense has slipped. We know that, 360 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: but over the last six weeks they are thirtieth by 361 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: dv Away, thirtieth against the past, and that is a 362 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: bad matchup when you're going up against this red hot 363 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Addison, Jefferson, Hawkinson, the whole crew. So the total, 364 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where it's at right now, but 365 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it's gonna close as our top of 366 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: the season, like fifty seven ish range. My trends pop 367 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: on the under because the trends are gonna tell you 368 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to bet under. That's just too high of a number. 369 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I took a couple of these 370 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: high lines unders then got like eighty points in those games. 371 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: So look back in this matchup. Six straight matchups Lions 372 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Vikings have gone fifty points or higher. So and we 373 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: got no Lions defense. Right now, you're looking like, can 374 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: we make two stops somewhere in the game to get 375 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: over the line if you need an angle, I think 376 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: aman Ra could have a big game Vikings middle of 377 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the field is one area that they're a little bit 378 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: vulnerable defensively. Here's his last three games against the Vikings. 379 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: One hundred and six yards, one hundred and forty four, 380 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve. I think we just get a 381 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: lot of quick stuff over there. If you want to 382 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: play something on this game, I think the only real 383 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: way to do it is to bet whoever you think 384 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: is gonna win to win the NFC. So if you 385 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: like the Vikings passing offense against the bad passing defense 386 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: four to one right now to win the NFC. If 387 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: you win this game as Minnesota, I know it's crazy, 388 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: you're the one seed. You're off next week. You might 389 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: get to play Washington or Green Bay after that, just 390 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: to host the NFC Championship. You gotta like home Brian 391 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Flores defense against either rookie quarterback or against the Packers, 392 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: who they have dominated for the better part of both 393 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: matchups so far this year. So I think if you 394 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: want something on the game, my heart's already on the game, 395 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: But I think betting a future on either the Vikings 396 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: or the Lions that would be the way to go. 397 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: It's an awesome game. It's a great way to end. 398 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: Not a great slate, but we'll be waiting finally, actually 399 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: waiting all day for Sunday night is the real thing 400 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: this week. 401 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, this game is gonna be full of touchdown tickets. 402 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: It's like everywhere you go on social media, people are 403 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: going to have two touchdowns and two touchdowns and this 404 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: guy and six players. I mean, this game has a 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: total of fifty six and a half fifty seven, So 406 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: everyone's just gonna assume two dome deams inside a dome 407 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: under the lights, assuming a track meet here. 408 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: I did look it up. 409 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: You saw the like you said, the best regular season game, 410 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: so I was just curious. We've only had six games 411 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: where an eighty five percent win percentage faced an eighty 412 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: five percent win percentage in game ten or later since 413 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety and it's the first since chiefs Rams in 414 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, which was the famous fifty four to fifty 415 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: one game with like a sixty three total. So I 416 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: think everybody praise that is what we get here. 417 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: Honestly, I only. 418 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: Thought about what was curious about the Super Bowl odds 419 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: depending on who wins this game, obviously with the one 420 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: and the five in terms of the seeds, and I 421 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: thought Minnesota is just interesting. There's six eight to one 422 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: while Detroit is second at three seventy. If Minnesota wins 423 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: the game, I just feel like there's an opportunity, as 424 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: I think you alluded to. I also think there's an 425 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: opportunity in Super Bowl matchups, like if you think Minnesota 426 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: wins the game, maybe doing like a Minnesota Baltimore or 427 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: whoever you kind of like in the AFC to match 428 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: up with them. I mean, at the minimum, they don't 429 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: have to play a week if they win the game, 430 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: So those odds should be interesting. Nonetheless, and I believe 431 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: the loser goes to either Tampa Bay, Atlanta or the Rams. 432 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: I think something of that nature. So we will see 433 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: how that goes all. Right now, before we get into 434 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: all these bets, I just wanted to quickly go over 435 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: Week eighteen thoughts, Like what you know, this is a 436 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: completely different week than really the other seventeen weeks. 437 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: And I know you have names for different weeks. 438 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: You've got like the kitchen sink week, and you've got 439 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: all that different type of stuff. 440 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: That's kind of what you get here. 441 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: So the way I had looked at week eighteen is 442 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: when you can see the finish line, right, Like, I 443 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: think there's a different motivation factor for teams who are 444 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: out of the race, maybe weeks thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, But 445 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: once you get to week eighteen, it's like, Okay, maybe 446 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: I can get myself up for one last game before 447 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: I have a bunch of months off and I go 448 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: to Lank like Kan Kuhn and all this stuff. So 449 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: I do think Week eighteen brings a different motivational factor. 450 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: Player rotations also is like a humongous thing in week 451 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 3: eighteen in my opinion, how many how long people are 452 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: gonna play? When they're gonna play, it's almost like a 453 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: preseason game and incentives. Obviously it's a massive conversation. But 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: I do think sometimes it works both ways a little bit, 455 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: like does the team want it? Does it actually matter? 456 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: Because if the team's trying to win anyway, they're just 457 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: gonna go with their game plan, right Like they're not 458 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: gonna change a game plan if they're trying to win 459 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: a game to get a guy an extra fifteen receiving yards. 460 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: So I do think those are my thought processes in 461 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: terms of Week eighteen. But what do you think? 462 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on the player incentive thing. I 463 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: think that has become almost too involgue, like everyone's got 464 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: the postop you have it in yours, Like it's good 465 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: to know who the players with the incentives are, but like, 466 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: let's not be crazy. The books also know who's got 467 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: the player incentives, Like they're setting the lines accordingly, they're 468 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: reacting to the bets coming and accordingly. I'm not sure 469 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: that that sort of that market is like I think 470 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: it may be tapped out a little bit on most 471 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: of those. So I don't do a lot with the 472 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: player incentives. I do have one that we'll talk about later, 473 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: but I think you have to kind of get creative 474 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: with how you want to do that sort of angle. 475 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Maybe the incentive I like is on Week eighteen, So 476 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I would encourage you as you're listening today and playing 477 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: these these are aggressive bets. You're gonna hear a lot 478 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: of long shots today, you know, we know I love that, 479 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: But I think week eighteen, if you're going to bet, 480 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I think you have to bet aggressively because I have 481 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: lines this week by my model that are off by five, six, 482 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and nine points from what the NFL model is. Like 483 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of betters don't have a line that's off 484 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: by like a half point or a point, and then 485 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: that makes them better off by nine is preposterous, Like, 486 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: I clearly must be a way off on this, But 487 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: if I'm right, I must be way right, and I 488 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: better bet it really aggressively, not just like play a 489 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: spread bet. So I have seven bets today, but my 490 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: seven bets are really like twenty bets because there is 491 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: a bet and then there's okay. But if it is 492 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: this way, then what's the aggressive way? What's the escalator 493 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: way to play it? So with the incentives, you know, 494 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: we've like there's a very obvious one that I'll come 495 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: back to. The Steelers play Sunday or Saturday. The Raiders 496 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: and Chargers play on Sunday. If the Steelers win, the 497 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: Chargers are locked into the sixth seed, and that game 498 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: becomes meaningless for them a day later, maybe they're resting 499 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: that odds on that game are going to change if 500 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: the Steelers win, and so you can parlay those together. 501 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: You can sort of choose your own adventure on team incentives. 502 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I think the team incentive more the player incentive is 503 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: the way to go here and say, Okay, what do 504 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: I think a team's going to do here? And if 505 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: they do, what happens in the other game, and sometimes 506 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: what happens in those games simultaneous. Tampa and Atlanta Atlanta 507 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: need to win and they need a Bucks lost. Well, 508 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: what if it's halftime and the Bucks are up twenty 509 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: one to three. You don't think the Falcons have the 510 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Internet in the locker room and know what's happening there. 511 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Like games simultaneous, you can sort of choose a path 512 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: script an outcome of Okay, if this game is happening 513 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: over here, what's this team know about it? And what 514 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: would they do about it? So I think you're gonna 515 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: have a little fun. Maybe down the bet a little 516 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: bit to more pizza money sized bets this weekend, but 517 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: have some fun and go for the long shots. Less bets, 518 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: more crazy ones is my way to going Week eighteen. 519 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: I like it though. I'm excited for this podcast. I 520 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: got some fun ones today. 521 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: Week eighteen's the best and nobody knows a long shot 523 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: like you do, so it should be a good time 524 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: all right. Before we get into all these bets, wild 525 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: card lines are out at a bunch of books right now, 526 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: which is basically hypothetical lines. If this team plays this team, 527 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: you are happy to bet this. They have a spread, 528 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: they have a total, So I. 529 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: Kind of toss this to you. 530 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: What are you seeing of these potential matchups where the 531 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: line might be you know, a point, a point that 532 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: way on the total that you think there might be 533 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: an advantage. 534 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah to the COMI Buffalo minus seven and a half 535 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: home against Denver. I do not believe in this Denver team. 536 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: So if we do get that one Bononicks on the 537 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: road and like snowy Buffalo for a home playoff debut 538 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: on the road for the rookie, just that to me 539 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: screams a line that would rise at least to nine 540 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: and a half because that would get teased into oblivion 541 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: at seven and a half, and I don't think books 542 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: want to deal with that. So I would love the 543 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: Bills there. And then if we get it Pittsburgh Baltimore. 544 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: Right now we're getting a total at forty seven and 545 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: a half. That's an under all day for me. I 546 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: know we just got fifty one in the match a 547 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, but historically that is way too high. 548 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Forty seven is a key number. I think that would 549 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: go that direction. And right now it's Pittsburgh plus seven 550 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: and a half. I don't know, man, All the history 551 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: says to take the underdog in that matchup over at Field. 552 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: Will we know all the trends that way, we know 553 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: about the raw ra stuff and in this particular matchup, 554 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: So those are the ones that caught my eye. What 555 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: I really want that I haven't seen anywhere is I 556 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: want Packers, not at Eagles. I don't know about that 557 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: one yet. I want Packers. If they move up to 558 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: the sixth seed, give me them out whatever line they're 559 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna post against the Rams or the Bucks. I think 560 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: the Packers are as good as anyone in the NFC, 561 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: and if they move up, that will be the underdog 562 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: that I think has a great chance to win and 563 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: keep winning next week. 564 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I circle the Packers Eagles, saying to myself, Okay, 565 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: I kind of like the three, but I did put 566 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: a question mark there, being like Packers Bucks is really 567 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: what I'd be interested in, which is also why I 568 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: think Washington plus two and a half in Tampa Bay, 569 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: which is currently listed, is interesting. Man, I would really 570 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: love the three, but I still think it's kind of 571 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: free points because it's probably a pick'm game to me, 572 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: Washington in Tampa Bay, even with the rookie. But yeah, 573 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 3: Green Bay Tampa Bay would be the dream. All right, 574 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: let's get into these bets. 575 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: This is your best bet. 576 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: So we're gonna start with Carolina and Atlanta. You said it. 577 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: This is Atlanta's entire season. They play at the exact 578 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: same time as Tampa Bay New Orleans. Tampa Bay wins, 579 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: they're in. It's not Atlanta has a shot. 580 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: Here. 581 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 3: The stat I have before I toss it to you. 582 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: Bryce Young's turnover turnover worthy throw percentage, to me is 583 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: probably the story of the season. It's at two percent 584 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: since week nine. It was at four point nine percent 585 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: prior to week nine. So he's just really improved as 586 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: a quarterback not giving them ball to the other team. 587 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: So what do you like here in this matchup Panthers Island. Baby, 588 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: we're finishing the season right where we started back on 589 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: Carolina plus eight and a half, and on each one 590 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: of these picks, we'll get to the escalator. We're back 591 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: one more time, Panthers Island. Actually, genuinely, I think this 592 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: might be one of my favorite bets of the entire season. 593 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: These teams are just not that far apart. I make 594 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: this Atlanta minus three and a half, so this is 595 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: a huge difference across the major key number. Obviously, I 596 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: just think we're viewing Atlanta all here and viewing Carolina 597 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: a little bit wrong. Still too so Atlanta before the 598 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: change from Kirk Cousins, they ranked thirty first in DVA 599 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: the last six games before that, and I don't think 600 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: a lot has changed since then. Here's what has changed. 601 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: The passing offense has not. The passing offense with Michael 602 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Pennock still ranks twenty six the last two games by DVA. 603 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: What has changed is the passing defense is top five. 604 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Is Atlanta really a top five passing defense these last 605 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks or this last month or so their 606 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: top ten defense overall? I don't know. I don't see that. 607 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: Why would they be a top ten, top five defense suddenly? 608 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I know they're getting a little more pressure. I don't 609 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: think that that's totally nothing, But look at just the 610 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: team they're playing here, Carolina. Last week I gave out 611 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Carolina talking about that their top five pass defense over 612 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: the last six weeks, and then their pass defense gave 613 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: up a million yards to Tampa Bay. Because defense is 614 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: fluky and kind of goes hot and cold, and I 615 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: think that shows you just how vulnerable and fluky some 616 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: of those stats can be, and how much I Thinkana's 617 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: passing defense can be in this matchup, who's the better 618 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: quarterback right now? Because I'm pretty sure it's Bryce Young, 619 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: not Michael Pennix. We've seen two games from Penix. Young's 620 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: playing well. I take Dave Canalis and the Carolina coaching 621 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: staff over Atlanta's right now. So what's the advantage for 622 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta this game? Certainly the run game, and maybe they 623 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: just run all over them and maybe that's enough. Is 624 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the defense really that much better? Carolina's defense has not 625 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: been good. I don't know that trust Atlanta's defense. And 626 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: by the way, importantly, Atlanta's defense just played Sunday night, 627 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: could not get off the field against Washington. They were 628 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: in the field seventy seven plays forty two minutes. That 629 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: defense is exhausted, and I think that that sets up 630 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: very poorly for them. Here here's some of the trends. 631 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Teams have won forty to sixty percent like Atlanta against 632 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: the team eight to twenty five percent worse thirty one 633 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: seventy ats thirty nine percent. Stuckey's trend that he talks 634 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: about a must win team versus eliminated team the last 635 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: two we the year forty percent that hits here for 636 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta as well or against Atlanta either way, road team 637 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: failing to cover by twenty four of the week before 638 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: sixty five percent ATS that's in Carolina's favor. A couple 639 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: others just as like coming off a huge blowout as underdogs, 640 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: more trends in their favor. So I love this, but 641 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: I think this line is way off. Panthers island back 642 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: one more time, Carolina plus eight and a half. 643 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: God bless us. 644 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully Carolina can give us one more ATS win this 645 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: year right at the end of the year, to kind 646 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: of send Atlanta off into their offseason. All right, let's 647 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: keep going here. 648 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: So this one's quick and easy. Just set us up here. 649 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: So Panthers plus eight and a half Panthers money line. 650 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I think Panthers win this game outright. It's plus three 651 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: point fifty. These teams split the season series each last 652 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: four years, Atlanta one in October, so that means Carolina 653 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: has to win now. And there's one other angle that 654 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: will add even a slight and more escalator. I mentioned 655 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit already. What if Atlanta looks up 656 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: at halftime and the Bucks are rolling Tampa Bay winning 657 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: big against the Saints. They're two touchdown favorites. If the 658 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: Bucks aren't winning big, it doesn't matter what the Falcons 659 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: do anymore. And if they're in a tight game, are 660 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: they really gonna have the extra motivation or are they 661 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: just gonna be like, you know what season's done anyway? 662 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Is what are we doing out here? So if you 663 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: think the Bucks win big, especially pulling ahead in the 664 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: second half, as they probably will do against the Saints, 665 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: who have been terrible second half, box minus thirteen with 666 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: the Carolina money line plus seven to fifty nine, that's 667 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: the escalator on motivation here. If the Falcons look up 668 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: at the scoreboard and there's Tampa Bay rolling away, does 669 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Carolina just get this over the line too, So basically 670 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: plus seven to fifty love that one. 671 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some fun stuff to probably do with like 672 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: Mike Evans and Tampa Bay scoring a ton of points 673 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball, mixed with that Carolina stuff. 674 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: As you said, I think there's some fun things back 675 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: and forth there. All right, Well, that's Panther's Falcons. So 676 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: let's move on here now to the next one. We're 677 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: gonna do Chiefs and Broncos. Now we got a rookie 678 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: lay in ten and a half and eleven points here. 679 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: Just a crazy situation obviously, with no Mahomes, no Kelsey, 680 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: Casey resting all their starters. The one note I will say, 681 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: Andy Reid is a dog of four and a half 682 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: for more twenty and eleven against the spread since two 683 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: thousand and three Casey and Philly, But honestly, more impressively 684 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: to me, he's twenty seven and four in a six 685 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: point tis in that slot, which means not getting blown out, 686 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: which is exactly what you would want in a ten 687 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: and a half point dog. 688 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: So what are you doing here, Casey? Denver? 689 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the Chiefs get blown out. In fact, 690 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: I think they're in this all the way and have 691 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: a real chance to win. So give me Chiefs plus 692 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: ten and a half in Denver. And look, I know 693 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: books are pricing in motivation. I know Denver has to 694 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: win this game, but this line move is ridiculous. I 695 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: would have this Chiefs minus six if they were healthy 696 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: and motivated, and they're not. But that's like a sixteen 697 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: point seventeen point line move. Even with the guys out, 698 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: I would still make this maybe like Denver minus three 699 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: or four range. This is way too many points here 700 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: for a team that I think is moving backwards a 701 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: little bit, and the Chiefs have more than just Patrick Mahomes. Now, 702 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: look Patrick Maholmes. I think when we look back five 703 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: ten years from now, is going to be absurd that 704 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are fifteen and a one, back to back 705 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: defending champions and patri Maholmes is probably not gonna be 706 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: a top five MP candidate in his prime. I don't 707 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: know what we have to do to fix that. But 708 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: it's not just Mahomes out. We're gonna lose Travis Kelcey. 709 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: Chris Jones is out. But here's the thing. NFL rosters 710 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: only go fifty three deep. There's only so many guys 711 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: that you can bench, and the Chiefs are not as 712 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: top heavy as we think of them. And beyond Mahomes Kelsey, 713 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: we already knew Chris Jones will be sitting anyways with 714 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: his injury. Maybe Trent McDuffie. There's not a lot of huge, 715 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: needle moving guys that will be missing from this team. 716 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: The offensive line strength still there, There's only so many linemen. 717 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: You got to play some of those good linemen for 718 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The defense that's come back around. The Chiefs 719 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: in the last four weeks are suddenly top five offense 720 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: and defense by DVOA again top five pass defense. Also, 721 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: these guys have to play. They can only bench so 722 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: many players. And by the way, I know it's the backups, 723 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: but you don't think that the Chiefs, who have won 724 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: seventeen out of eighteen games. You don't think the team 725 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: that is the back to back champs wants to go 726 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: sixteen to one and knock out the division arrival out 727 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. They will be trying in this game. 728 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: And I got my Carson Wentz jersey on here. I 729 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: am in North Dakota, Like I'm not backing Carson Wentz 730 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: in his one start for the year. I know all 731 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz jokes. He's a top five backup. They 732 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: go and get him for this moment to play when 733 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes is down. And don't forget it's not just Carson Wentz. 734 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: It's Carson Wentz and Andy Reid and every quarterback for 735 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: decades has been better with Andy Reid. Denver, their defense 736 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: is their calling card, but their defense is down to 737 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: thirteenth over the last six weeks, basically league average against 738 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: the run. And the pass. Alan is a great team 739 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: right now, and they're a tired defense. Like we just 740 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: said with Atlanta, they played the Bengals. Now, it was 741 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: on Saturday, but this defense was on the field for 742 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: eighty four plays against the Bengals. They gave up almost 743 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: five hundred yards forty two minutes on the field. Defense 744 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: has been a worse at home. They've been worse early. 745 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: The Chiefs defense has been better on the road. I 746 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: think this sets up for one of those games where 747 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, it's like thirteen to ten in 748 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Can the Broncos hold on and finish 749 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: this thing off? That's where we're headed. You had the 750 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Andy Reid underdog stats when he's a underdog and more 751 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: than a touchdown eight and three against the spread if 752 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: you just bet any underdog game on the money line, 753 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Andy Reid twenty six percent ROI on the money line, 754 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: only behind Mike Tomlin for active coaches. So raw raw Tomlin. 755 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: We know we love that. We don't get raw raw 756 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: Reid because he's the favorite every time, but I think 757 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: this is a great spot to back him. The Chiefs 758 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: have owned the Broncos seventeen of eighteen and one last thing. 759 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: There's a small chance Denver might not even have to 760 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: win this game. If the Bengals lose Saturday, and if 761 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley and the Dolphins are just looking tearrible, Denver 762 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: is already in the playoffs at that point. They may 763 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: not even have to get over the line at the 764 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: end of this game, even though these are simultaneous. So 765 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs plus ten and a half, well, I think is 766 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: just a terrible line. That's the play Carson the Winz 767 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: baby North Dakota, let's go. 768 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the Pittsburgh what would be? It would be 769 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Jets Chiefs parlay on the money line where all 770 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: three of them just fall in their faces. I might 771 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: have to put a few bucks on that one. All right, 772 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: is it you have an escalator here? Or are we 773 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: moving all game? 774 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a yeah, multiple escalator of course. 775 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: So Chiefs on the money line plus four fifty, that's 776 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: the obvious pick here. I do think that the Chiefs 777 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: can and maybe will win outright and not really correlated, 778 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: but Chiefs Panthers moneyline parlay plus twenty two twenty two, 779 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: So put that one in there, just a little nibble. 780 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: But then here's the kind of fun narrative escalator. You're 781 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: just building one. What if all three need to win, 782 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: teams fall in their face. Here's my version of that 783 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: little nibble. What if the Bengals look awesome. The Bengals 784 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: go out and win on Saturday, they cover the minus 785 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: two whatever the number is. The Jets win, the Dolphins 786 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: get them out of here. Who cares about them, Tyler 787 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: Huntley don't need to worry about that. The Bengals the 788 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: team nobody wants to face. Oh no, the poor Bills, 789 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: and maybe the Chiefs will have to face the Bengals. 790 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: The Broncos are struggling, the Chiefs are hanging around, everyone's 791 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: excited for Joe Burrow in the playoffs. And then the 792 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: Bengals get over the line, or sorry that then the 793 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Broncos get over the line right at the end. So 794 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: here's the parlay. Bengals to cover, Jets to win, Chiefs 795 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: plus seven and a half Denver money line. So the 796 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: Bengals win, They're set up as the team nobody wants 797 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: to face. They we're excited about the playoffs, and then 798 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: it gets ruined and the Broncos just like squeeze out 799 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: a win. Against the backups from the Chiefs, and everyone's 800 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: disappointed and sad except us because we hit a thirteen 801 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: to one parlay. A little narrative escalator on that one. 802 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: So if you're looking to tail this pick, look for 803 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: the quick slip button in the Action Network app. 804 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: I love those. 805 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have so many of these little strung together 806 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 3: by the time we hit the weekend for like eight, 807 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: you know, eight ten bucks a piece. It'll be fantastic. 808 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: All right, next game here, Steelers Bengals. Before I give 809 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 3: my stat because I just have more of a way 810 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: to kind of play your bets here and kind of 811 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: add a few things to it to make it a 812 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 3: little longer. But why don't you walk us into this? 813 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: What do you like here? 814 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Pittsburgh. 815 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just gave you the narrative escalator parlay 816 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: on the Bengals. But the truth is, I'm only just 817 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna nimble down a little bit because I'm actually on 818 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: the other side of this game. Give me the Steelers 819 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday plus two and a half at one book 820 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: plus two if you need to plus one and a half, 821 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: I would rather take that than the money line. We've 822 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: seen the Bengals go for two. We've seen them win 823 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: or lose by one a couple of times, so that 824 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: one or two points may actually matter. But this is 825 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: just a classic Raw ra Tomlin spot. Even if the 826 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: Ravens win, Pittsburgh should still be trying this game. They 827 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: want to secure the ive seed and play the Texans, 828 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: not the Ravens, and knock out the Bengals, your division rival. 829 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: That's another thing to do. And they've been terrible for 830 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. They've just been home since Christmas, 831 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: where they looked awful after looked awful the week before. 832 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: They don't want to be limping in the playoffs on 833 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: a four game losing streak. I think Pittsburgh tries. I 834 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: think they treat this game as business as usual, and 835 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: I think that Pittsburgh should be favored. I would have 836 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: this at minus four. Pittsburgh we're getting almost all the 837 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: way to. I don't think we're gonna get to plus 838 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: three on the other side, but we're getting close to 839 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: that now. I just see no way Cincinnati should be fair, 840 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: and I know that's how books have tweated these teams 841 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: all season, but I don't see it. Pittsburgh. I know 842 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: has not looked good the last couple of games, but 843 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: that was Baltimore and Kansas City. The Bengals are not 844 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: those teams. Particularly, their defense is very beautible. The Steelers 845 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: are an extra rest. They're at home. The Bengals just 846 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: mentioned coming out that long overtime game that they had. 847 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has a special teams advantage. They have a big 848 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: coaching advantage. They're obviously better on defense. I know they 849 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: have their flaws right now, but they're clearly better than Cincinnati. 850 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: And then all the Tomlin stats, let me just run 851 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: off a few of them for you here Tomlin week 852 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: five forod as an underdog sixty eight percent ATS and 853 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: in my Tomlin Underdog Rob Ross spot, I have noted 854 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: that trend is better in the division. It's better in 855 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: a home game. It's better as a touchdown underdog or last, 856 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: it's better off a seven point loss or more. This 857 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: game checks all for those boxes. 858 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: This is a. 859 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: Prime Tomlin raw Ross spot. It's a great spot to 860 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: back AFC North underdog sixty percent against this thread week 861 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: fourteen forward. It's a great spot to just back a 862 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: team on a three game losing streak ATS and straight 863 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: up fifty nine percent ATS. And then Mike Tomlin just 864 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, They've won fifteen of nineteen games. This 865 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: is a team that he has dominated this franchise over 866 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: the years. And then this may be one of your stats. 867 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: I got it out of your column. Mike Tomlin. Week 868 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen fourteen and seven ATS sixty seven percent 869 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: against this thread three to zero ATS in Week eighteen. 870 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: These teams close strong under Mike Tomlin. Steelers plus two 871 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: and a half get the best number. Again, I'd rather 872 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: play that than the money line, But I think Pittsburgh 873 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: isn't a great spot to hang around here and make 874 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: things interesting on Saturday. 875 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like every Bengals game does have 876 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 3: the ability to go over. And if I look at it, 877 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: here's some numbers. Forty four, thirty seven, twenty forty one, 878 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 3: twenty four. Those are Burrows points versus Tomlin since twenty 879 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: twenty one. Now, necessarily, I don't know if the Bengals 880 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: are going to win the game, but I do think 881 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: they're going to be able to put up some points. 882 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: So Cincinnati team total over twenty four and a half 883 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh to win is about seven to one. Which 884 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 3: is interesting considering the money line is short. So just 885 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 3: an idea. You know, Cincinnati puts up a ton of 886 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 3: points there, and if you like, Pittsburgh feels a little long. 887 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: All right, is there any escalator here or do you 888 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: want to move on to the next. 889 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: I got an escalator. I know everything, Evan, So here's 890 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: my version of escalator. And this might be my favorite 891 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: version of these escalators. Part of the reason I'm not 892 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: playing the Steelers' money line is because if you do 893 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: think Steelers win, there's a better angle. And I've seen 894 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: it out there. I know Anthony Dubunda or old colleague 895 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: had this play. I think the guys on six pack 896 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: ended up doing this play as well. If the Steelers win, 897 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: we mentioned already they're the five seed, the Chargers locking 898 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: into the sixth seed and a day later have nothing 899 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: to play for against the Raiders. Justin Herbert's been banged 900 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: up all season. I don't know what Jim harbod nows necessarily, 901 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: but as a five point favorite on the road for LA, 902 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: there's no way that line stays that high. So I 903 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: want to Pittsburgh Raiders money line parlay. Frankly, I think 904 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: that that's a bad line in favor of the Raiders anyway, 905 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: five point home dogs. But the Raiders defense has been 906 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: really good the last six weeks. They've been the better 907 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: defense than the Chargers in my opinion. Patrick Ram's defense 908 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: has been really good. They're top three against the past, 909 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: top six overall by DVOA. Chargers defense has been fading away. 910 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: They were really good the first half the season, not 911 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: so good lately. A couple weeks ago, the Raiders were 912 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: the Giants. Those were the two teams they're supposed to 913 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: be the number one pick. They've won two in a row. 914 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce and o'conno. Those guys are playing and coaching 915 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: for their future right now. So I think, if you 916 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: want just the Raiders angle, I take the under in 917 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: that game. Raiders games have gone under forty one and 918 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: five straight. It's forty one and a half. So I think, 919 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: if you just want a Raiders angle, but you're not 920 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: so sold on it, just ugly game, peek of close whatever. 921 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: But here's how you know the Steelers Raiders money line 922 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: parlay is good. You got to shop round because there 923 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: are multiple major books that will not let you parlay 924 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: this bet. If you try to put those two together. 925 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: They know that it's correlated and they will not accept 926 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: this bet right now. But if there are books that 927 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: do accept it, it's five to one right now, shop Brownie, 928 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: get it. Chargers Raiders have split the season series five straight. 929 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: Chargers won the first time. That sets up all for 930 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Get that parlay. It's way too good of 931 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: a price if the Steelers will win what could be 932 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of a coin flippy game. You got a five 933 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: to one on the Raiders, in effect a meaningless game 934 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: for both teams. So I love that one. It might 935 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: be my favorite escalator of this group. 936 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: That is an interesting one. 937 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean, just considering the circumstances about what you could 938 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: possibly get on Sunday with the Raiders and Chargers on 939 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 3: the other side of it, I could just see Harbaugh 940 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 3: has said. I think he has really one of the 941 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 3: best quotes here. I don't have it here, but I 942 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: think it's something about, like, you know, we're gonna have 943 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 3: the most motivated team in the entire world when it 944 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 3: comes to Sunday. Yeah, that's that's until it doesn't matter. 945 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 3: So we'll see how that circumstances works. All right, last 946 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 3: game here before we talk about incentives. You've got something 947 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 3: on Dallas and Washington. Now, this one kind of goes 948 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 3: both ways, right, like Washington needs the game, but there's 949 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 3: certain circumstances that could be happening during the game that 950 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: would make it go one way. 951 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 2: Or the other. So what's your play here? 952 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is low key the second most 953 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: interesting game on Sunday. Obviously the Sunday night game is 954 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: the big one. But this is going to determine where 955 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: do the Packers end up, And that's the team I 956 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: have my eye on for the long shot kind of 957 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: path tohere a super Bowl possibly. I like the underdog here. 958 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: Give me the Cowboys plus five against Washington. Really interesting game. 959 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: We got Dan Quinn's Washington against his old team. We 960 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: got McCarthy and Zimmer maybe coaching for their future. They 961 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: certainly don't want to get embarrassed like they did a 962 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: week ago. Dallas just won this game a month ago. 963 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: They won by eight points the week before Thanksgiving against Washington. 964 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: And Washington in the last six weeks, which I think 965 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: probably includes that game, Washington is tenth in DVA. They're 966 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: pretty good, but they're one spot behind the Cowboys. The 967 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been not terrible down the stretch. They just 968 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: were out of it way too early for it to matter. 969 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: But they've been league average offensively. They've been really good defensively. 970 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: Not last week they got crushed by the Eagles, but 971 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: I think that Micah Parsons has changed this defense and 972 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: made them really really good again, and Mike Zimmer has 973 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: found some answers with this unit. So Washington the playoff team, 974 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: their defense is the week unit. And again another team 975 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: coming off an overtime game. Recurring theme here we're gonna 976 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: tie defense. And then some trends that favor the Cowboys. 977 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: This was one that was on the Panthers as well. 978 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: Teams that lose by thirty one or more that are 979 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: then four point underdogs are more at home sixty seven 980 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: percent ats. I can't really get to better than Washington 981 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: minus one or two here. The must win text came 982 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: in and put this price toward Dallas to where we're 983 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna cross the key numbers. So I like Cowboys plus five. 984 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: And then here's mask Cleayer on this one rather than 985 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: the money line, which is also a bad number. If 986 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: Washington drops to the seven seed we talked about this before, 987 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: that's a great spot for the Packers to go, get 988 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: the win, move up to the six, get a much 989 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: better path Packers minus ten against the Bears. I'm not 990 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: that worried about the Packer's gonna after the Vikings, and 991 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not worried against the Bears, who are bad 992 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: at everything right now. Chicago offense, bad on the road, 993 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: bad from behind, defense is bad early. I think that 994 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: one could get away from Chicago. So here's the parlay here, 995 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: Washington loses, green Bay wins big. Green Bay sees Washington 996 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: losing is like, let's go, baby, get out of here. Eagles, 997 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 1: we get the better one. So Dallas on the money 998 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: line plus one ninety Packers cover the ten. Put those together. 999 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: That's the parlay plus four fifty seven, and then the Packers. 1000 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: You want that future if that happens too. 1001 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would make sense. 1002 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I still feel like there's an opportunity there, 1003 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: especially with all these games at one o'clock and then 1004 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: the four o'clock's kind of lining up where they need 1005 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 3: each other and have to watch each other. Where there's 1006 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 3: like halftime, you probably get an idea where there's going 1007 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 3: to be some blowouts and some opportunities. So I do 1008 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 3: think having these like long tail parlays kind of in 1009 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: your back pocket for some pizza change will give you 1010 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 3: an opportunity while these games are going on. 1011 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: Con see the counder lightning round the thunder. 1012 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 3: All right, So Philly and the Giants, we're gonna start here. 1013 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: The only note I have Week seventeen or later Brian 1014 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 3: Dable five and oh against the spread, which you know 1015 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: kind of goes into you know, is there gonna be spoiler? 1016 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: Are they going to win another game here? So? 1017 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 3: What do you think Philly and the Giants? Which which 1018 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 3: direction does this game end up going? 1019 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: This is my one favorite of the week. And this 1020 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a lighter pick here because 1021 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: the game doesn't matter. But I like the Eagles. I 1022 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: like Eagles minus two. I know this game means nothing. 1023 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: They're locked into the two seeds. They're gonna look like 1024 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: have Tanner McKee starting at quarterback. They just see when 1025 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee came in last week. This team wants to 1026 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: play well for him. It's a home game for Philly. 1027 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: They care about these games. They want This is to 1028 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: me a betting on team infrastructure and team chemistry sort 1029 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: of pick here. If this was a healthy game with 1030 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles trying. I have bet at least fourteen for 1031 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles, So how far down do you move the 1032 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: line with no Jalen Hurts. Now, look, with the Chiefs, 1033 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: we talked about them not being so star Leyden. That's 1034 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: not true with the Eagles, especially offensively. No Hurts, no 1035 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: Saguon Barkley, sorry, no record coming for him, No Ag 1036 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 1: Brown or DeVante Smith. I have to imagine a lot 1037 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: of offense left. But again, fifty three man roster, the 1038 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: offensive line is still gonna be pretty good. The defense 1039 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: that's been number one all season is still gonna be 1040 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: pretty good. Vic Fangio, the coaching, They're still gonna have 1041 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot of advantages there. And this game kind of 1042 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: looks under looks windy and gross, lots of trends point under. 1043 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: But to me, this is an organizational win for Philly 1044 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: and a team that I think wants to lose. For 1045 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: the Giants, I'm not so sure they just won. But 1046 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles have won six of the last seven matchups 1047 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: by an average of twenty points a game. They've won 1048 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: fourteen of seventeen against the Giants, and I think, like, 1049 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: look the way we bet this team a lot this year. 1050 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: We wanted Eagles second half right because you just want 1051 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: a lead and just run the ball and bleed the 1052 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: clock out. That's the whole game this week. That's the 1053 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: only thing the game is is just get through the game. 1054 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: Let the Giants lose like they want to lose, and 1055 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't it but you, by the way, so New York 1056 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: Giants to blow the number one pick and then still 1057 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: lose ugly the next week and leave the bitter feeling 1058 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: in their mouth after they already ruin their won't pick 1059 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: anyway like that just seems so Giants. And suddenly like 1060 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: Kenny Gainwell is rushing for a touchdown and Tanner McKee 1061 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: is getting a touchdown as Adrian Brown chucks the ball 1062 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: up into the stands. This is a vibes pick for me, 1063 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: and the Eagles are going to close the season on 1064 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: a win. The Giants are going to lose. Here's a 1065 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: fun stat that I looked up in bat Labs this week. 1066 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: Teams that have won ten to thirty percent of their 1067 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: games week seventeen and eighteen. So not like a winless team. 1068 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: They don't want to lose the last game. They don't 1069 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: want to be that. But as long as there is 1070 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: anything better than that ten to thirty percent and they're 1071 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: on the road, those teams are twenty and forty two 1072 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: against the spread, thirty two percent cover rate in week 1073 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen, failing to cover about almost six points 1074 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: a game. So I like Eagles minus two, and I'll 1075 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: jump right into the escalator here two different ways. I 1076 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: think Eagles cover and win big probably, so fourteen plus 1077 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: win is plus four fifty Four of the last seven 1078 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: matchups here the Eagles have won by twenty four or 1079 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: more points. I think this goes just be an ugly 1080 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: game where the Eagles are run, run, running all through 1081 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 1: the Giants. And then we've had a lot of just win, 1082 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: baby parlays. How about it just lose, baby parlay. I 1083 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: just gave you the stat about the Giants, the teams 1084 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: that are ten to thirty percent wanting to lose at 1085 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: the end. So the Giants right now are tied with 1086 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: the Browns, Titans, and Patriots all three and thirteen all 1087 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: for those top four picks. Now, look, the Patriots I 1088 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: think need to lose. You said you don't want to 1089 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: bet that game. Patriots want to keep that top pick. 1090 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: It's right there. It's one game away. I don't even 1091 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: know if Drake may is gonna be playing that game, 1092 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: watching them put in like Joe Milton for the second 1093 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: half or something. We got Shder Sanders and cam Ward 1094 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: in this draft. We got Travis Hunter that do everything, receiver, cornerback, 1095 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: whatever he is. I think these teams are going to 1096 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: want to lock in now here, and the numbers from 1097 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: the past tell us that's the case. And the weird 1098 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: part is we get reduced lines here because these teams 1099 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: are playing the Bills who are arresting, the Texans who arresting, 1100 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles who are arresting. Somehow, the Titans, who you've 1101 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: talked about as two and fourteen against the spread, are 1102 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: favorites in Week eighteen, which is objectively funny, But that 1103 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: stat about these teams fading. I looked up the straight up, 1104 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: so ten to thirty percent win rate against somebody better 1105 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: than that since twenty ten. The team that has the 1106 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: better win rate seventy two and thirteen straight up, so 1107 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: that's an eighty five percent hit rate. They're winning by 1108 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: almost thirteen points a game, fourteen percent away in the 1109 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: money line, So just lose, baby, parlay. We're betting against 1110 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: all four of those teams three and thirteen. So we're 1111 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: taking the money line for the Bills, the Texans, the Eagles, 1112 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: and if you want the Ravens, you're not going to 1113 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 1: juice the money line much with throwing that one in there. 1114 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: But all four together is plus five point fifty eight. 1115 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: Now here's what's crazy. If that stat tells us eighty 1116 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: five percent of the time these teams win against these 1117 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: bottom feeders, eighty five percent to the fourth times four 1118 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: times is still better than a coin flip. This should 1119 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: be like an even odds money rating plus five fifty. 1120 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: Basically that basically these bad teams should lose, like we 1121 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: all know they should lose. They get a good quarterback pick, 1122 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: get a good draft pick, so just lose, baby, fading 1123 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: these losing teams. Betting on the Eagles, who I like 1124 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: best out of the four, well, and the Ravens. Obviously, 1125 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm betting on the Texans here, but sure, 1126 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: let the Texans beat on the stupid favored Titans and 1127 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: then Bill's or the Patriots. So Bill's Texans, Ravens, Eagles 1128 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: plus five point fifty on the money line Parlay. 1129 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 3: You knew lose, Baby Lose would include the Giants, especially 1130 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 3: this season. All right, let's go to the next game here, 1131 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: Miami and the Jets. The only real question I have 1132 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: is will the Jets close his favorites again? 1133 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: Because why not? 1134 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 3: Right now, that looks like that line is down to 1135 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 3: basically one with Tyler Hutley starting right now minus one 1136 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 3: from Miami. But honestly, I feel like we're gonna get 1137 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 3: to Sunday and everyone's gonna be like Aaron Rodgers last 1138 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 3: game and Jets will close minus one or something like that. 1139 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 2: But what do you think there? What are you doing 1140 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: with Miami and New York? Yeah? 1141 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: I looked at the Jets side here, and I certainly 1142 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: would lean that way. But I'm gonna I'm done with sides. 1143 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under. Give me the under thirty 1144 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: nine and a half. I think this is an ugly 1145 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: game here, and look, Miami can win and make the 1146 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: playoffs if Denver loses. Nobody wants that. We don't need 1147 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: to see whatever left of Miami in the playoffs. In Buffalo, 1148 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,959 Speaker 1: we already literally saw that game in the playoffs last year. 1149 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: Miami last week beat the Browns twenty to three. That 1150 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: was not indicative of that game. That was an ugly 1151 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: game for both offenses. Miami's offense had a thirty six 1152 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: percent success rate. They only won that game like they 1153 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 1: did because the Browns were all three in the red 1154 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: zone six turnovers, four of them on downs. It was bad. 1155 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: The Jets were down forty to nothing get to run 1156 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: out the field till they got two garbage time touchdowns. 1157 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: This is a bet on Tyler Huntley or a bet 1158 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: against Tyler Huntley. Basically, if I ever see Tyler Huntley 1159 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: likely starting a game as he probably is here with 1160 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: Tua and hip injury, I'm taking the under every single 1161 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: time Tyler Huntling games when he starts eleven and two 1162 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: to the under thirty one points a game average in 1163 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: those games when two has not played the whole game. 1164 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: This season, here's Miami's point total twenty last week against 1165 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: the Browns. Otherwise ten three, twelve, ten and fifteen. This 1166 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: team can't score the ball eleven point six points a 1167 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: game without to sixty four drives five touchdowns, four of 1168 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: them in the fourth quarter, so they're averaging barely over 1169 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: a point per drive on the season. The Jets i 1170 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: don't know what's with the Jets. Do they quit already? 1171 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: Is Rogers retiring? Will Miami quit in the cold if 1172 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: they know two has basically cooked? Anyways? Do they really 1173 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: want a playoff game to win a cold game in 1174 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: New York, to stay in New York for another week 1175 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: and lose a cold game in Buffalo? I just see 1176 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways that this just is like an ugly, awful, 1177 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: don't even show down a red zone sort of game. 1178 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: So I like the under thirty nine and a half, 1179 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: and again I would lean Jets here, but I don't 1180 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: want any part of either side here. I just hope 1181 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: that the Jets do win so we don't have to 1182 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: worry about watching Miami in the playoffs the week after. 1183 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the under is probably the safest call 1184 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 3: because I just don't know which way you're going to 1185 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 3: get motivational wised, Like, I don't even think you know 1186 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 3: what Rogers is thinking entering this one. Obviously he'd like 1187 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 3: to get that Devonte touchdown, but aside from that, and 1188 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: then on Miami side, you obviously going for the playoff spot. 1189 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 3: But without two of they have really looked terrible from 1190 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 3: a consistency standpoint, on the offensive side, and if you 1191 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 3: look at the look ahead, look ahead was forty five, 1192 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 3: now down to thirty nine. I don't know if that's 1193 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: enough of a drop. What's your what's your escalator there? 1194 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? Mine is basically what you just said. Back to 1195 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: the Devonte Adams, well, I still like the Devonte Adams touchdown. 1196 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: Rogers is at four ninety nine. Now, look, I'm a 1197 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: Vikings fan, you know I would love to see him 1198 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: retire at four ninety nine and just have the bittersweet 1199 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: feeling of no touchdowns his last two games off into retirement. 1200 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, I love that. But if he does 1201 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: throw the touchdown, it's probably Devanta Adams still five touchdowns 1202 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: his last five games, ten of the last seventeen with 1203 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I think that it would not shock me 1204 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 1: if the Jets only real goal this game is just 1205 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: to get Aaron Rodgers that five hundred touchdown, in fact, 1206 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,439 Speaker 1: maybe even despite him, and get him out of here. Go ahead, 1207 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: go off to retirement. We are ready to move on. 1208 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: Take your boy DeVante with you. So I'm not playing 1209 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: just the Adams touchdown because I don't need the juice anymore. 1210 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: But give me the under thirty nine and a half 1211 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: with the Atoms touchdown. Now we got negative correlation because 1212 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: there's only so many points you can get when you're 1213 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: under thirty nine and a half with the Atams touchdown 1214 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: is plus four to forty. And again we need that 1215 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: touchdown early in the game. So under three and a 1216 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: half with the first Atoms touchdown is plus fourteen hundred. 1217 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 1: So those are the angles there. Give me that five 1218 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: hundred touchdown if it does happen, make it go to 1219 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Devanta Adams and then nothing else the rest of the game. 1220 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: So if you're looking to tail this pick, look for 1221 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: the quick clip button in the Action Network app. 1222 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the final game here, Ravens 1223 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 3: and Browns. And as we are recording this podcast, Bailey 1224 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 3: Zappi sounds like he will now be the starting quarterback 1225 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: of the Cleveland Browns for this one actually, and it 1226 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 3: looks like that Baltimore is up to a twenty point favorite. 1227 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 4: Now. 1228 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 3: That would be the largest spread in any game since 1229 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 3: October of twenty twenty one, when Kyler Murray was a 1230 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 3: twenty and a half point favorite against Davis Mills. And 1231 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, pretty crazy for it to be at this number. 1232 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 3: At this time, and I believe this is going to be, 1233 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 3: you know, maybe the largest line ever for a final 1234 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 3: week of the regular season, So expectations have never been higher. 1235 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 2: What are you doing with this Baltimore Cleveland game. 1236 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, here we are at the end of the regular season. 1237 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: It's my last pick of the regular season. We're going 1238 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: back to the first game on the slate, and I 1239 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: want the first score on the slate. Give me the 1240 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry first touchdown plus three to zero five. So 1241 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: this game stinks. We all know, like the Ravens are 1242 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: going to run the Browns off the field. I think 1243 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: it's hilarious that Bailey Zappi comes in for Dorian Thompson 1244 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: Robinson and the line moves against him. Just retire, buddy, Like, 1245 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: you're not an NFL quarterback if you're replacing DTR and 1246 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: the line moves against you. We had the DTR mind 1247 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: shaft last week. We hit that. Can't do anymore because 1248 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: the team total for Cleveland is eleven and a half 1249 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: this week, so good luck with that. I looked at 1250 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: Baltimore first half. We know that's a good Lamar Jackson thing. 1251 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If Baltimore rolls early, and if 1252 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: the Browns can't score, why not just bet first touchdown. 1253 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: So here's the one player incentive that I'm backing this week, 1254 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: other than I guess Adams a little bit. Derrick Henry 1255 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: is one off the lead for rushing touchdowns for the 1256 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: league for the season. We had that one fifteen to 1257 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: more touchdowns plus five fifty. We're one away there. He's 1258 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: one off Jamal Lewis's team record for Baltimore's set two 1259 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: decades ago. I think they get him that touchdown. And 1260 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: he's been a scoring machine this season. First eleven games 1261 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: of the season, he's scored every single game. Then he 1262 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: went scoreless for four games. Then last week he scored 1263 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: the first touchdown. In fact, I don't bet first touchdowns. 1264 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: I had to look this up for it. Derrick Henry 1265 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: is the league leader in first touchdowns. Last week was 1266 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: his seventh time this season that he had the first 1267 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: touchdown in a game. There's only three other guys in 1268 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: the NFL with even five first touchdowns, and then everyone 1269 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: else is below that. Derrick Henry has done that almost 1270 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: half of the games the Ravens have played this season. 1271 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: So plus three or five for that first touchdown and 1272 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: then here's the last escalator on what's already a three 1273 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: hundred pick. Remember from earlier this year, when Henry's team wins, 1274 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: he gets one hundred yards and two touchdowns. Well, we 1275 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: know they're winning. This is the surest win of the season. 1276 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: So Derrick Henry looking pretty good lately. It's a windy game, 1277 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: it looks ugly. You're just trying to run down the 1278 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: clock and get the win and get out of here. 1279 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Last two weeks Pittsburgh and Houston, Derrick henrygan's good defenses. 1280 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Over three hundred yards six point one yards of carry, 1281 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: no surprise, because you look at Henry splits year by year. 1282 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: December is his best month five point two yards of 1283 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: carry except January five point nine, only four games, but 1284 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: he's averaging one hundred and forty four yards a game 1285 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: in January for his career, including his career high two 1286 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty came in January. So one hundred yards 1287 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: and two scores for Derrick Henry. He's done that twenty 1288 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: two times and one hundred and thirty four games, but 1289 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: all but two of those times came in to wins, 1290 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: So you'll get just wins, which again we know they're winning. 1291 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: This is the shirts win on the schedule, seventy seven. 1292 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry wins twenty times. He's hat one hundred yards 1293 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. That's over a quarter of those games. 1294 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: We get one hundred yards and two touchdowns at plus 1295 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: five fifty. So that's the first escalator. And then back 1296 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: to the first touchdown Henry one hundred yards, two touchdowns, 1297 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: one of which is the first touchdown, eleven to one. 1298 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the last escalator. We end where we start, 1299 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: we start, where we end. It's pizza money. Hopefully we 1300 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: hit some of these long shot, crazy escalators. 1301 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1302 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,919 Speaker 3: I have Derek Henry most rushing touchdowns this year, which 1303 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 3: has been an absolute sweat and comes down to this 1304 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 3: exact moment in this exact game. So let's hopefully we 1305 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 3: all cash together. 1306 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 2: All right. 1307 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's it. That is the regular season. I honestly 1308 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 3: cannot wait for Sunday night. We will do our recap 1309 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 3: podcast where we go over the entire slate on what 1310 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: happens on Saturday and Sunday. 1311 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 2: And this one's gonna be a wild one. 1312 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm expecting some upsets, you know, some you know, some 1313 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 3: really really crazy stuff. Hopefully it is a fun Week 1314 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 3: eighteen all right, So that'll be the Action Network podcast 1315 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 3: for Week eighteen Best Bets episode. 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Thank 1325 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 3: you for listening, Good luck with your bets, and enjoy 1326 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 3: the slate this weekend. Last Scott Hansen, last Red Zone, 1327 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 3: Enjoy ahead. 1328 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 4: See a letter guys. 1329 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. 1330 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: If you or someone you care about has a gambling problem, 1331 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: help is available twenty four to seven at one eight 1332 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: hundred Gambler