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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and ore
Speaker 2: with you. Mark Lerner graduated from Michigan State University with
Speaker 2: high honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree in social science.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy two. He completed an intensive one year
Speaker 2: training course and professional astrology and he was hooked hearing
Speaker 2: how they summoned other dimensions to grow thriving gardens in
Speaker 2: the barren soils of northern Scotland. Mark joined the Finehorm
Speaker 2: community in nineteen seventy six. His book includes Welcome the
Speaker 2: Planet Earth. His magazine is GPS Astrology and his website
Speaker 2: is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. Mark, welcome back,
Speaker 2: my friend. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm great, Thanks for having me on tonight.
Speaker 2: George, you are what we call an expert in Earth astrology.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Well. When I began Welcome planat Earth, which was a newsletter,
Speaker 3: newspaper and magazine from nineteen eighty one to two two thousand,
Speaker 3: again the name that has been used for hundreds of
Speaker 3: years and Europe and America about Earth astrology was the
Speaker 3: word mundane. And of course now we talked about this
Speaker 3: last time when I was on with you and everybody
Speaker 3: in June, that word now is kind of whole, huh.
Speaker 3: But it never was that way. But fundamentally, Earth astrology
Speaker 3: is the astrology of eclipses, the beginning of seasons, what
Speaker 3: we call the equinoxes, and solstices, new moons, full moons,
Speaker 3: war leaders. It's basically looking at, in fact, every state
Speaker 3: of the Union, I mean here in the United States,
Speaker 3: all of us listening here and anywhere around the world.
Speaker 3: Every country has a birth chart, every state, even every
Speaker 3: city and town. Sometimes they're hard to find, but every
Speaker 3: state in the United States, for instance, when it entered
Speaker 3: the Union, that's a chart, and a lot of you
Speaker 3: out there are living in states where maybe the state
Speaker 3: chart and your personal birth chart can be compatible or incompatible.
Speaker 3: Because I get a lot of people, there's what we
Speaker 3: call astracryptography, which has been developed the last forty years.
Speaker 3: So even whether you're living in your own birth town
Speaker 3: or you've moved away, sometimes people are not living exactly
Speaker 3: in the best situations and other people are.
Speaker 2: What's the significance of full moons. We've got the harvest
Speaker 2: moon tonight.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, I mean this is one of the
Speaker 3: rare times where I'm actually on within a couple hours
Speaker 3: of a full moon. So this is what they call
Speaker 3: it supermoon. That only means it's not really all that significant.
Speaker 3: It's just that certain months we always have a full moon.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a total lunar eclipse or partial lunar eclipse.
Speaker 3: So every twenty nine days there's a full moon. If
Speaker 3: the moon is what we call hereagy closest to the Earth,
Speaker 3: the moon is not always the same distance from us,
Speaker 3: then the moon looks you see, whereas at Apigee. In fact,
Speaker 3: this is what's going to happen at this solar eclipse.
Speaker 3: We'll call it annular solar eclipse. Many many were Sinners
Speaker 3: have now heard about the one on October fourteenth, which
Speaker 3: is not total, and that's because the moon is at Apigee.
Speaker 3: It's it's further away from the Earth. So when you
Speaker 3: hear or you go online to Nassa whatever it is
Speaker 3: and want to hear about it and read about the
Speaker 3: annular solar eclipse October fourteenth, they'll call it a ring
Speaker 3: of fire because what's happening, and again everybody's got to
Speaker 3: take the usual precautions. Just like with the total solar eclipse,
Speaker 3: you can't stare at the Sun, so you got to,
Speaker 3: you know, figure out a way not to directly look
Speaker 3: at the Sun. So just keep in mind that sometimes
Speaker 3: the moon is closer and sometimes it's further away. Full
Speaker 3: moons though you know for hundreds, if not several thousand
Speaker 3: years in astrology and astronomy, you know, this is like
Speaker 3: when we get all the idea about where wolves and
Speaker 3: animals getting all kind of crazy because the Sun and
Speaker 3: the Moon are tugging at the Earth and the same
Speaker 3: thing really at new moons and solar eclipses, whether they're total,
Speaker 3: annual or partial, then you get the Sun and the
Speaker 3: Moon on one side of the Earth. So this is
Speaker 3: why eclipses they're very powerful. In astrology, we call the
Speaker 3: Sun moon the two lights. So they're fundamentally like in
Speaker 3: everyone's charts, we have a Sun and we have a moon,
Speaker 3: and sometimes the moon is more powerful and the moon
Speaker 3: sign in people's charts. People need to understand that the
Speaker 3: moon is incredibly significant and we're much more than our
Speaker 3: sun signs.
Speaker 2: Mark. Is it unusual to have two eclipses even though
Speaker 2: it's a lunar and solar eclipse in the October No, I.
Speaker 3: Mean it is what happens every year, is they start shifting.
Speaker 3: Get this I was reading up on. I mean, I
Speaker 3: have these classes just so everybody knows that I've talked
Speaker 3: for a lo long time. There's thirty six of them
Speaker 3: in the advanced series. I have a whole lesson hour
Speaker 3: lesson and all kinds of notes about eclipses and fixed
Speaker 3: stars and even heliocentric astrology and so on. But I
Speaker 3: looked at the Britannica about how frequent we get eclipses.
Speaker 3: You can get two to five solar eclipses in a year.
Speaker 3: You can get two lunar eclipses, but they shift from
Speaker 3: one month to another, so yes, it is unusual to
Speaker 3: have them in October. The other thing is sometimes you
Speaker 3: can have a year where there is no lunar eclipses,
Speaker 3: either full or partial. But we always have a couple
Speaker 3: of solar eclipses. And one of the things, George, the
Speaker 3: maximum is five, and in nineteen thirty five there were
Speaker 3: five solar eclipses, and according to the Britannica, the next
Speaker 3: time we'll have that number will be in two thousand,
Speaker 3: two hundred and six like two hundred and sixty or
Speaker 3: set two hundred and sixty US years later. That's how
Speaker 3: infrequent it is to have five solar eclipses in a year.
Speaker 2: Unusual. I've talked to Glynnis mccancer numbers lady, I'll ask
Speaker 2: you to mark. You're the astrologer. What is it about
Speaker 2: numbers and celestial patterns that determine our outcome?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, yeah, I mean numerology astrology Toureau of Jemetria,
Speaker 3: going back to the Bible, for instance, the Hebrew alphabet
Speaker 3: with a pictorial alphabet. Our English alphabet is actually connected
Speaker 3: to all that. That's what we know. Like for instance,
Speaker 3: in English, the letter A is the first number, so
Speaker 3: that generally, using regular numerology, A has a one value quantitatively,
Speaker 3: but it's more qualitatively whether in a person's name, and
Speaker 3: an A could be like a numerology, you could have
Speaker 3: a long A or a short short A. You know,
Speaker 3: some people's names begin with the power of valves. B
Speaker 3: is the second letter, that's two, and so on, these
Speaker 3: three and so on. So numerology often we're working with
Speaker 3: people's names, and of course we all have the numbers
Speaker 3: of Let's say somebody is born the twelfth month December,
Speaker 3: so there's a twelve era whatever day, fifteenth, eighth, and
Speaker 3: so on, and then you have digits for your year.
Speaker 3: So when Glynnis is on and you know, I've been
Speaker 3: doing this myself for decades. Numerology is the foundation point
Speaker 3: of astrology because everything in all of our charts, the
Speaker 3: Sun is in one degree. Out of three hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty of our charts. The circular chart. Most of the
Speaker 3: people listening have seen their charts or hear about it.
Speaker 3: There's twelve signs each time is thirty degrees of space.
Speaker 3: If you multiply thirty times twelve, you get the three
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty degrees of the zodiac and of a circle.
Speaker 3: And so we all have the Sun at a particular
Speaker 3: degree that has a number and a value. The same
Speaker 3: thing with the moon, Mercury, Venus, the eight main planets,
Speaker 3: and if you work with asteroids, which I do, and
Speaker 3: the planet Hiron which was covered nineteen seventy seven, and
Speaker 3: then you work with mathematical alignments like a grand triangle
Speaker 3: or a square or oppositions, they're part of what we
Speaker 3: call aspects and astrology. So everything is part of the
Speaker 3: great geometry of the heavens and what we all learned
Speaker 3: when we were studying geometry in high school. But I
Speaker 3: loved those classes and somehow I made it to studying astrology,
Speaker 3: which is like cosmic.
Speaker 2: Geometry astrologically speaking, mark when there's a full moon, what
Speaker 2: does that mean to us?
Speaker 3: Well, what's happened is that again, if we go back
Speaker 3: hundreds of years, it was lily put this way. Humanity
Speaker 3: was used to this kind of thing all over the world. Now,
Speaker 3: if you have been a cloudy sky or training, the
Speaker 3: moon will be out there, but you're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to see it full. But it's such a reality,
Speaker 3: So I think, I'm sure there's so many books about
Speaker 3: how we get mythologies and how ancient peoples, for instance,
Speaker 3: they would get their shamans and so on because astrology
Speaker 3: and astronomy and looking at the heavens. And we even
Speaker 3: have calculations going back several thousand years to the Middle East, India, China,
Speaker 3: all over the world where astrologer astronomers were watching, say,
Speaker 3: Jupiter Saturn conjunctions every twenty years. As far as the
Speaker 3: full moon is, it does disturb, shall we say, the atmosphere,
Speaker 3: you know, animals, birds and so on. So that's why
Speaker 3: there's been so many movies, you know, particularly in the
Speaker 3: recent years, about you know, zombies and were wolves and
Speaker 3: strange behavior. Because what's happening again, like before, when the
Speaker 3: moon is full, the sun and the moon are tugging
Speaker 3: at the earth, just like the tides, and that has
Speaker 3: an impact on all of our lives. Okay, so, but
Speaker 3: in the ancient world, the thing is, as the moon
Speaker 3: keeps changing its phases, the full moon was always important.
Speaker 3: And this is important for us to think about in
Speaker 3: the ancient world because so many of us live in
Speaker 3: these you know well, with cities with artificial light, that
Speaker 3: this is how people needed to protect themselves, you know,
Speaker 3: from enemies and so on. You'd have people guarding your
Speaker 3: town and so on to make sure somebody didn't attack you.
Speaker 3: And if the moon was full, you could see things,
Speaker 3: you know, when when when Seal Team six took down
Speaker 3: of Sonda Laden as example, I think there's that movie
Speaker 3: zero Dark thirty, A lot of this stuff happened still
Speaker 3: and you know, I mean these are warfare things that
Speaker 3: are really shocking. But having studied so much history and
Speaker 3: current events, they didn't just go in there, you know,
Speaker 3: to this unusual area, you know, during during a bright
Speaker 3: sunny day. I mean a lot of this is like
Speaker 3: all planned, and you know, they don't tell us about this.
Speaker 3: Defense departments so on to go in when people are
Speaker 3: asleep and there isn't a moon like what we call
Speaker 3: the dark of the moon just before a new moon,
Speaker 3: in order to you know, obscure helicopters or whatever it may.
Speaker 2: Be, mark any news on the outer reaching planets and
Speaker 2: these other celestial objects out there in the Solar system.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is there's a combination of things that's
Speaker 3: very disturbing. You know, we all think we're sort of
Speaker 3: out of that horrible COVID situation, and of course many
Speaker 3: of us are reading. Okay, there are these different variants.
Speaker 3: You know, how serious is it. Everybody's got different opinions. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's more like the flu. Other people have come down
Speaker 3: with it, and depending on people's health, you know, it
Speaker 3: can be very serious. Now here's where I wanted to
Speaker 3: mention this. There's a planet cool Ears. Okay, it was
Speaker 3: discovered in two thousand and five. It has a cycle
Speaker 3: of five hundred and fifty nine years. It's one of
Speaker 3: these planets beyond Pluto now on October twentieth and twenty first,
Speaker 3: right between these two eclipses, Okay, the October fourteenth annular
Speaker 3: solar eclipse which is actually coming through Oregon, Nevada, New
Speaker 3: Mexico through San Antonio, Texas goes into Mexico. That particular
Speaker 3: eclipse is on the fourteenth. The other one, I definitely
Speaker 3: want to talk to everybody about October twenty eighth, which
Speaker 3: is a partial lunar eclipse, because that's connecting to the
Speaker 3: great Stock Market crash in New York from nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 3: So I want to mention that fairly soon here. But
Speaker 3: ere If and the nose of the Moon. A lot
Speaker 3: of people know their charts through these two horseshoe figures.
Speaker 3: It has to do with the fate destiny points as
Speaker 3: the Moon and the Earth and the Sun coordinate. And
Speaker 3: what's happening is Eres, this faraway planet. In mythology, this
Speaker 3: planet was named after the sister of Mars. She was
Speaker 3: the one in mythology who created in a sense, was
Speaker 3: the catalyst for the Trojan War because she wasn't invited
Speaker 3: to a particular marriage. And these mythologies are part of
Speaker 3: these planets. And the other thing I wanted to say
Speaker 3: is now the World Health Organization and the CDC have allowed,
Speaker 3: if not encouraged, particularly a biologist in Ontario, Canada, to
Speaker 3: come up with names instead of the variants. Because when
Speaker 3: somebody says, well, we've got to be a two point
Speaker 3: whatever it is, so many people are like, oh, there
Speaker 3: they go again, you know, with these weird Greek names.
Speaker 3: So now they're naming and one of these variants is
Speaker 3: named Erius, you see, and we're going to have eurus
Speaker 3: very powerfully situated. And that worries me. You see that
Speaker 3: a biologist or an astronomer will sort of connect up
Speaker 3: something and then say, oh, here's the latest COVID kind
Speaker 3: of thing. It's a long story, but just people are
Speaker 3: going to see these names like our Taurus, foreign as Parola,
Speaker 3: these different little cutesy names. I don't think they should
Speaker 3: be doing this, you know what I mean, They're they're
Speaker 3: naming virus. Is that you can't see after celestial bodies.
Speaker 2: That's kind of silly, isn't.
Speaker 3: It's it's silly. Look The thing is they don't know
Speaker 3: what they're doing. You see. This is part of the problem.
Speaker 3: Even with these names like Eris or Sedna and so on. Now,
Speaker 3: some of these planets that are being discovered by it,
Speaker 3: I mean there's some great astronomers Mike Brown, Chad to Heal.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've ever been on your show.
Speaker 3: You know, these astronomers that are finding all these planets right,
Speaker 3: you know, beyond Pluto. There's a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3: And when people order, if they they order my consultations,
Speaker 3: if they want to know about where Eris is or said,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell them. But the thing is because
Speaker 3: they have powerful forces. But it is very silly, and
Speaker 3: it's not just silly. I think it's very dangerous.
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