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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and ore

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Speaker 2: with you. Mark Lerner graduated from Michigan State University with

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Speaker 2: high honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree in social science.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy two. He completed an intensive one year

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Speaker 2: training course and professional astrology and he was hooked hearing

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Speaker 2: how they summoned other dimensions to grow thriving gardens in

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Speaker 2: the barren soils of northern Scotland. Mark joined the Finehorm

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Speaker 2: community in nineteen seventy six. His book includes Welcome the

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Speaker 2: Planet Earth. His magazine is GPS Astrology and his website

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Speaker 2: is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. Mark, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: my friend. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Thanks for having me on tonight.

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Speaker 2: George, you are what we call an expert in Earth astrology.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: Well. When I began Welcome planat Earth, which was a newsletter,

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Speaker 3: newspaper and magazine from nineteen eighty one to two two thousand,

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Speaker 3: again the name that has been used for hundreds of

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Speaker 3: years and Europe and America about Earth astrology was the

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Speaker 3: word mundane. And of course now we talked about this

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Speaker 3: last time when I was on with you and everybody

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Speaker 3: in June, that word now is kind of whole, huh.

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Speaker 3: But it never was that way. But fundamentally, Earth astrology

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Speaker 3: is the astrology of eclipses, the beginning of seasons, what

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Speaker 3: we call the equinoxes, and solstices, new moons, full moons,

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Speaker 3: war leaders. It's basically looking at, in fact, every state

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Speaker 3: of the Union, I mean here in the United States,

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Speaker 3: all of us listening here and anywhere around the world.

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Speaker 3: Every country has a birth chart, every state, even every

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Speaker 3: city and town. Sometimes they're hard to find, but every

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Speaker 3: state in the United States, for instance, when it entered

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Speaker 3: the Union, that's a chart, and a lot of you

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Speaker 3: out there are living in states where maybe the state

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Speaker 3: chart and your personal birth chart can be compatible or incompatible.

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Speaker 3: Because I get a lot of people, there's what we

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Speaker 3: call astracryptography, which has been developed the last forty years.

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Speaker 3: So even whether you're living in your own birth town

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Speaker 3: or you've moved away, sometimes people are not living exactly

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Speaker 3: in the best situations and other people are.

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Speaker 2: What's the significance of full moons. We've got the harvest

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Speaker 2: moon tonight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, I mean this is one of the

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Speaker 3: rare times where I'm actually on within a couple hours

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Speaker 3: of a full moon. So this is what they call

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Speaker 3: it supermoon. That only means it's not really all that significant.

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Speaker 3: It's just that certain months we always have a full moon.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a total lunar eclipse or partial lunar eclipse.

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Speaker 3: So every twenty nine days there's a full moon. If

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Speaker 3: the moon is what we call hereagy closest to the Earth,

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Speaker 3: the moon is not always the same distance from us,

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Speaker 3: then the moon looks you see, whereas at Apigee. In fact,

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Speaker 3: this is what's going to happen at this solar eclipse.

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Speaker 3: We'll call it annular solar eclipse. Many many were Sinners

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Speaker 3: have now heard about the one on October fourteenth, which

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Speaker 3: is not total, and that's because the moon is at Apigee.

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Speaker 3: It's it's further away from the Earth. So when you

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Speaker 3: annular solar eclipse October fourteenth, they'll call it a ring

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Speaker 3: of fire because what's happening, and again everybody's got to

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Speaker 3: take the usual precautions. Just like with the total solar eclipse,

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Speaker 3: you can't stare at the Sun, so you got to,

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Speaker 3: you know, figure out a way not to directly look

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Speaker 3: at the Sun. So just keep in mind that sometimes

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Speaker 3: the moon is closer and sometimes it's further away. Full

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Speaker 3: moons though you know for hundreds, if not several thousand

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Speaker 3: Moon on one side of the Earth. So this is

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Speaker 3: why eclipses they're very powerful. In astrology, we call the

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Speaker 3: Sun moon the two lights. So they're fundamentally like in

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Speaker 3: everyone's charts, we have a Sun and we have a moon,

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Speaker 2: Mark. Is it unusual to have two eclipses even though

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Speaker 2: it's a lunar and solar eclipse in the October No, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean it is what happens every year, is they start shifting.

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Speaker 3: Get this I was reading up on. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: have these classes just so everybody knows that I've talked

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Speaker 3: lesson and all kinds of notes about eclipses and fixed

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Speaker 3: You can get two to five solar eclipses in a year.

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Speaker 3: You can get two lunar eclipses, but they shift from

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Speaker 3: one month to another, so yes, it is unusual to

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Speaker 3: have them in October. The other thing is sometimes you

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Speaker 3: can have a year where there is no lunar eclipses,

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Speaker 3: either full or partial. But we always have a couple

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Speaker 3: of solar eclipses. And one of the things, George, the

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Speaker 3: maximum is five, and in nineteen thirty five there were

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Speaker 3: five solar eclipses, and according to the Britannica, the next

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Speaker 3: time we'll have that number will be in two thousand,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and six like two hundred and sixty or

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Speaker 3: set two hundred and sixty US years later. That's how

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Speaker 3: infrequent it is to have five solar eclipses in a year.

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Speaker 2: Unusual. I've talked to Glynnis mccancer numbers lady, I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you to mark. You're the astrologer. What is it about

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Speaker 2: numbers and celestial patterns that determine our outcome?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, yeah, I mean numerology astrology Toureau of Jemetria,

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Speaker 3: but it's more qualitatively whether in a person's name, and

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Speaker 3: some people's names begin with the power of valves. B

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Speaker 3: So when Glynnis is on and you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: doing this myself for decades. Numerology is the foundation point

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Speaker 3: There's twelve signs each time is thirty degrees of space.

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Speaker 3: And so we all have the Sun at a particular

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Speaker 2: Geometry astrologically speaking, mark when there's a full moon, what

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Speaker 3: Well, what's happened is that again, if we go back

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Speaker 3: be able to see it full. But it's such a reality,

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Speaker 3: So I think, I'm sure there's so many books about

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Speaker 3: there's been so many movies, you know, particularly in the

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Speaker 3: strange behavior. Because what's happening again, like before, when the

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Speaker 3: And if the moon was full, you could see things,

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Speaker 2: Be, mark any news on the outer reaching planets and

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is there's a combination of things that's

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Speaker 3: very disturbing. You know, we all think we're sort of

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Speaker 3: out of that horrible COVID situation, and of course many

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Speaker 3: of us are reading. Okay, there are these different variants.

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Speaker 3: You know, how serious is it. Everybody's got different opinions. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's more like the flu. Other people have come down

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Speaker 3: can be very serious. Now here's where I wanted to

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Speaker 3: mention this. There's a planet cool Ears. Okay, it was

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Speaker 3: of five hundred and fifty nine years. It's one of

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Speaker 3: these planets beyond Pluto now on October twentieth and twenty first,

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Speaker 3: right between these two eclipses, Okay, the October fourteenth annular

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Speaker 3: what's happening is Eres, this faraway planet. In mythology, this

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Speaker 3: planet was named after the sister of Mars. She was

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Speaker 3: the one in mythology who created in a sense, was

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Speaker 3: the catalyst for the Trojan War because she wasn't invited

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Speaker 3: to a particular marriage. And these mythologies are part of

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Speaker 3: these planets. And the other thing I wanted to say

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Speaker 3: is now the World Health Organization and the CDC have allowed,

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Speaker 3: if not encouraged, particularly a biologist in Ontario, Canada, to

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Speaker 3: somebody says, well, we've got to be a two point

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Speaker 3: whatever it is, so many people are like, oh, there

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Speaker 3: they go again, you know, with these weird Greek names.

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Speaker 3: So now they're naming and one of these variants is

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Speaker 3: very powerfully situated. And that worries me. You see that

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Speaker 3: of thing. It's a long story, but just people are

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Speaker 3: going to see these names like our Taurus, foreign as Parola,

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Speaker 3: these different little cutesy names. I don't think they should

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Speaker 3: be doing this, you know what I mean, They're they're

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Speaker 2: That's kind of silly, isn't.

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Speaker 3: It's it's silly. Look The thing is they don't know

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Speaker 3: what they're doing. You see. This is part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: Even with these names like Eris or Sedna and so on. Now,

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Speaker 3: some of these planets that are being discovered by it,

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Speaker 3: I mean there's some great astronomers Mike Brown, Chad to Heal.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they've ever been on your show.

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Speaker 3: You know, these astronomers that are finding all these planets right,

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Speaker 3: you know, beyond Pluto. There's a whole bunch of them.

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Speaker 3: And when people order, if they they order my consultations,

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Speaker 3: if they want to know about where Eris is or said,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell them. But the thing is because

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Speaker 3: they have powerful forces. But it is very silly, and

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Speaker 3: it's not just silly. I think it's very dangerous.

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