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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Ballely Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're good.

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Speaker 3: Let's do live on a Tuesday edition. Merely Bo the

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Speaker 3: great Z give me in a meeting. He's always in meetings,

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Speaker 3: lots of meetings.

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Speaker 2: How can he be in a meeting at one o'clock

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Speaker 2: like he's I don't know. I feel like I would say, look,

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Speaker 2: I have a show that happens from one to three.

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Speaker 2: Y calendar's blocked off from one to three.

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Speaker 3: Head Honcho, it says over.

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Speaker 2: There, yeah he's Now we've got we've got the two Stevie's,

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Speaker 2: the two S's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in the mix running everything.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 3: How you been I missed you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed you too. It's been too long. You

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Speaker 2: had the big Cornerstone of Hope. Yeah, corners and the

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Speaker 2: Hope golf out. Where were you guys at at Firestone?

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Speaker 3: Oh right? Coming right off the heels of the senior.

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Speaker 2: Played those pins. They were in some very delicate spots

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Speaker 2: so did Oh wow. So we had to play the

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Speaker 2: course basically as it was setting. You then we didn't

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Speaker 2: play their teas. I wish we did, it would have

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Speaker 2: been fun. It's just it's an awesome course.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard, it's long, it's really long.

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Speaker 2: It's long, it's straight, it's narrow. Yeah, and the fairwayes

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Speaker 2: were cut. The average fairway they said was twenty eight

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Speaker 2: yards wide, so not big.

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Speaker 3: So probably slow play because a lot of people can't

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Speaker 2: And what was cool though, even though it was an outing,

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Speaker 2: one thing they did was cool is that you know,

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Speaker 2: how many times do people get to go play Firestone

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Speaker 2: South and we got to play their own ball. You

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Speaker 2: just did a straight up best ball, no handicapped, nothing.

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Speaker 3: Straight up best ball. So you just played your ball

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Speaker 3: all the way in or you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you got to play your shot, You got

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Speaker 2: to play, you got to play the golf course basically,

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Speaker 2: which was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I enjoyed it. One team had a couple

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Speaker 2: of ringers. They wanted to a lesser year, so they

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Speaker 2: had I think a plus three a scratch and then

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Speaker 2: another guy who was like a low single digit.

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Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I would say, though, is like

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Speaker 3: in that instance, with no handicaps and play your own ball,

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Speaker 3: the best golfer is going to so they time. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you got to ask.

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Speaker 2: Or you just have to load up your teams.

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Speaker 3: I prefer eating it out.

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Speaker 2: My team tremendous humans. We were not the best golfers

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Speaker 2: out there, but we had fun. Well yeah, great humans?

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Speaker 2: Uh oops? Did we have did not come in last?

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Speaker 3: Which did you experiment with playing the t's for your handicap?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea. That's what people should do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what people should do in general. That's my I

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Speaker 2: was pumped. I had sixteen and two, which is the

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Speaker 2: big long one. It didn't I hit it into it

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Speaker 2: rolled into the I don't understand how anybody could actually

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Speaker 2: It's such a small green for a five from where

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Speaker 2: we played five nine, where they played six fifty. It's

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Speaker 2: a long hole.

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Speaker 3: Didn't Tiger put it on there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he had a high cut. You gotta had a

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Speaker 2: high cute. But it was cool. Of course is in

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Speaker 2: great shape. Obviously, they just had to be out there.

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Speaker 2: The greens were fast, the fairways are so good. You

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Speaker 2: could really spin the ball out of the faraways. It

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Speaker 2: that's neat. You're in the you know, you're in the

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Speaker 2: clubhouse and you're seeing Jack Nicholas won the PGA Championship there.

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Speaker 2: Tiger obviously won. Anybody who's really a golfer of consequence

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Speaker 3: Well, Tiger had a run where between that and the

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Speaker 3: Memorial he won them both five plus times. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: So if you're our age and your man you're forty, like,

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Speaker 3: those were huge tournaments because Tiger was at his best. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And rewards, the best ball striker. You gotta hit. You

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Speaker 2: so that if you don't necessarily hit it where you want,

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Speaker 3: All the greens are up and protected, so if you don't,

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Speaker 3: if you don't land them and keep them, you're.

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Speaker 2: Not a great scenario. But it was super fun. I

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Speaker 2: did win the closest to the hole. It won five

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Speaker 2: feet on one of the part three's my pitch mark

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Speaker 2: if this, if this was the hole, it was literally

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Speaker 2: I mean I missed dunking by an inch. That's not

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Speaker 2: an exaggeration. Bine inch would have been just a pure dunk.

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Speaker 3: It was like straight in or was it a bounce in?

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Speaker 2: It would have been if had it gone in, it

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Speaker 2: But then it did not go in, which was sad

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Speaker 2: us all. But I did when that I won a

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Speaker 2: Tito's golf bag and a guy was like, I really

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Speaker 3: Was it like one of the pro bags, like a heavy.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a big staff bag. It was a nice

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Speaker 2: double strapped shoulder. It was a Callaway bag, very nice

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Speaker 2: And the guy came over and he's like I really

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Speaker 3: Fine, yeah, what do you like? You know, I don't

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Speaker 3: think you on that type of a deal. I think

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Speaker 3: the etiquette would be what can I what is there

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Speaker 3: anything you'd be interested in on a trade? It's probably

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Speaker 3: the way that would go because you're not going to

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Speaker 2: That give it right back to the right back. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: great event, great day. Got lucky though. The weather held off,

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Speaker 2: it was good. And then now here we are four

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, very yeah. Before we get and wipe all

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Speaker 3: the way to that, I just wanted to just say

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Speaker 3: one thing. Yes, yesterday's rundown started with it was like

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Speaker 3: it almost gave me the shakes, and it was like,

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Speaker 3: how did this happen?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be you got this.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's not you got this. Yeah no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we're in season now, well sort of yeah no, but

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Speaker 3: it like hit me like too quick. I you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I mean it's you know, you see guys,

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Speaker 2: Mean, yes, that's sped up. It's really accelerated. I'll be

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Speaker 2: you know, in West Virginia on Saturday, which is crazy

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Speaker 2: this team. I find that people are having a tough

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Speaker 2: on the Browns and a Q and a for all

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Speaker 2: the people there, and I've noticed even some of the

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Speaker 2: hard team to cover right now. It's because you can't

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Speaker 2: really poke holes in the roster. There really aren't a

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Speaker 2: have enough at that spot? Are our receivers good enough?

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Speaker 2: All of the things we normally talk about with the

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Speaker 2: mc cleveland Browns. Is our quarterback good enough? And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the one that remained just because you haven't

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Speaker 2: forget how to be a three time Pro Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think that and you can see already the night

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Speaker 2: and day difference from last year to this year. Even

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Speaker 2: in mini camp, there just aren't a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: other than can we win when the games count? Like,

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Speaker 2: what will our record be when these games matter? This

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Speaker 2: is not boy, I hope we can cover up this

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Speaker 2: or but man, you know, how are we gonna have

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Speaker 2: to play with Jacoby while Deshaun is out? None of that.

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Speaker 2: We're fully formed. We have a lot of stars at

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Speaker 2: very important positions, and now we need to just go

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Speaker 2: out and do it.

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Speaker 3: We had Ap joined me for you guys figured it

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Speaker 3: out two o'clock segment and I was, I was, I

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Speaker 3: said exactly what you just said, which is this is

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Speaker 3: a hard team to talk about, right like, and I

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Speaker 3: think it's for all it's it's because it's a simple answer.

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Speaker 3: If Deshaun Watson is what he is and was we're great,

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Speaker 3: not good, We're great. You go in the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: with this roster, Yes, you're not good, you're great. But

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Speaker 3: he's just got to go do that, and so we won't.

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Speaker 3: I said this, Ap, you're not gonna know that until September.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that you're gonna see Saturday at the Greenbrier.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that we're gonna see. Now, you might get

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Speaker 3: a little clue in those joint practices against Philly, maybe

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Speaker 3: a little clue's if it's back, but really the bright lights,

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Speaker 3: Big City of Cincinnati Week one that until then, until

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Speaker 3: the end of September into October. So any other to

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Speaker 3: your point in the point I made to Ap yesterday,

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Speaker 3: all the rest of this stuff it is.

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Speaker 2: Known, man. And by the way, I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: just us. There are many teams in the AFC that

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Speaker 2: could be great this year and not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be an absolute four plus month slugfest

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Speaker 2: where every game matters, every outcome matters. When you have

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Speaker 2: opportunities to win games, you cannot let them slip away

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Speaker 2: We're waiting, We're waiting. This isn't it. Look. I don't

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Speaker 2: This is going to be, simply put, a season that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is striping.

435
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Speaker 6: I didn't.

436
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this is Clean Brown's

437
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Speaker 2: Daily two point zero. I don't know if you are

438
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Speaker 2: aware of that yet.

439
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Speaker 3: I'm unaware.

440
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: Well now you are.

441
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Speaker 3: It feels like it's more like three point zero right.

442
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Speaker 2: In reality, It's like it would be like you your

443
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Speaker 2: arrival would have been four point oh, this would be

444
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Speaker 2: now another iteration with you and I would be five

445
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Speaker 2: point zero?

446
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Speaker 3: Well, how would there be you and I are still here?

447
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: No, this is it's a whole change. It's a whole change.

448
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Speaker 2: Four now stop it not even listening to you.

449
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Speaker 3: Will this be the longest run? But it's as we're

450
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Speaker 3: in our sixth season, this is this is the longest

451
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Speaker 3: This program.

452
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Speaker 2: Is the way that because it was Vic by himself,

453
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Speaker 2: then it was Vic and I thirteen and then just

454
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Speaker 2: into fourteen and then he was out. So Vic was

455
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Speaker 2: just twelve, I think twelve. It started by himself. I

456
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: came in thirteen, me and Vick and then he His

457
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Speaker 2: last game was week two of fourteen, which used to

458
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Speaker 2: be the old mural there. That's not there anymore.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right.

460
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Speaker 2: And then Wilhelm fifteen through eighteen, fifteen through eighteen, well

461
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Speaker 2: most of fourteen, and then fifteen sixteen, seventeen eighteen yep,

462
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Speaker 2: and then you and I and then us Now yeah, cruising. No,

463
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Speaker 2: your first one was eighteen.

464
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know, that's right. Yeah, So fifteen, fifteen,

465
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Speaker 3: fifteen through twenty this we're going on.

466
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Speaker 2: So he was most of fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, so

467
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Speaker 2: three almost four, and then you've been eighteen nineteen, twenty,

468
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Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two those our six season six season. Yeah, yeah, cruising,

469
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Speaker 2: he's safe and we'll away from that. We'll see.

470
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Speaker 3: I love I mean, I love the kids.

471
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Speaker 2: Let me kill you this. Yeah, I'm just gonna throw

472
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Speaker 2: something out there. Frank Severo can be as committed to

473
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Speaker 2: portraying Enzo or as Enzo whatever he's doing. What in

474
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Speaker 2: the hell is the I didn't. I don't know what

475
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Speaker 2: he's doing.

476
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Speaker 3: He sends me these texts like right before I do.

477
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Speaker 2: I do in the morning. If I see it in

478
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Speaker 2: the morning, always.

479
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Speaker 3: I constantly get it and I look at it, and

480
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Speaker 3: I still don't have the gram. So I look at

481
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Speaker 3: it and I look at it. I just don't know

482
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Speaker 3: what he's going for. I don't know.

483
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Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know.

484
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Speaker 3: Get back to that.

485
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Speaker 2: Hey's me, Frick saverro good Fellas.

486
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Speaker 3: Hey, I'll be at the hoboken here. Did do that stuff?

487
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't hell he's doing.

488
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Speaker 2: And he just like stares at the camera with a

489
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Speaker 2: green sreeze and ever reeze and it's very strange. But

490
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Speaker 2: my point is if he can remain steadfast in his

491
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Speaker 2: commitment to that, so can you remain steadfast in your

492
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Speaker 2: commitment to this program?

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my commitment to you is unwavering.

494
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Speaker 2: This that was a good non answer. It's the truth

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Speaker 2: I agree with, and.

496
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Speaker 3: You know it to be true. I do know to

497
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Speaker 3: eight teams have rookies report for Camp today, Bill's Charges, Chiefs,

498
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Speaker 3: Dolphin's Falcons, forty nine ers giants for Saints. I have

499
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Speaker 3: no idea how none of those teams are in are

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Speaker 3: the or the or the Hall of Fame game?

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Speaker 2: That's right, because that's us in the Jets. Hey what

502
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: does this mean? I don't I don't understand.

503
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Speaker 3: Do you think I wonder if they were are all

504
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Speaker 3: these teams ones that like bailed on the last week

505
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Speaker 3: of Mini camp and so this is there starting earlier.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

507
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Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

508
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Speaker 3: I don't know how that's done. It Vexes me, summer cocktail.

509
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Speaker 3: What do you got on that? Did you see that

510
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Speaker 3: on the on the invite for.

511
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Speaker 2: Hoff Summer Cocktail attire? That's right? Yeah, I felt like

512
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Speaker 2: that meant.

513
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Speaker 3: Because Gibbie goes, I think I can wear this, and

514
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Speaker 3: he was in a polo and cargo shorts, and I said,

515
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Speaker 3: I don't think you wear that. No, probably think it's

516
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Speaker 3: like gats be light.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to do like a tan suit, probably

518
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Speaker 2: with no tie.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think. I think it's I don't know

520
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Speaker 3: that you have to wear. I think you could wear

521
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Speaker 3: a loafer, sure, but not a sneaker.

522
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Speaker 2: You could probably wear a sneaker today, well then today's age,

523
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Speaker 2: you probably could wear a sneaker, one of those sneakers,

524
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Speaker 2: but you either need to be a nice I think

525
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Speaker 2: you gotta be in a jacket, a jacket or you know, yeah,

526
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Speaker 2: like you could wear lou lou pans with a blazer yesh,

527
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Speaker 2: for sure, yep. Or a little tan suit or a

528
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Speaker 2: light colored suit, yeah, past Deli suit.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I'm at.

530
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Speaker 2: Or a seersucker.

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Speaker 3: We have also not discussed since as is appropriate.

532
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Speaker 2: You're talking this is for for that's right, Saturday, the Hof,

533
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Speaker 2: the part the party, the Yeah, I've been to one

534
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Speaker 2: of those parties. Yeah, you're right, we have it right,

535
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Speaker 2: hart shorts and a polo probably not getting in.

536
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Speaker 3: No, that's not how it's gonna go. Yeah, stood right there,

537
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Speaker 3: all right. The other thing, so the Hoff is hitting

538
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Speaker 3: clean up as well. Of course he's the headliner. Yeah,

539
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Speaker 3: in a pretty loaded class, and it's a good class

540
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Speaker 3: headliner of nine.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the main event.

542
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Speaker 3: When does Hoff take the stage? Is that a three twenty?

543
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Speaker 2: I hope not that late, but I think I think

544
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be after two thirty, because.

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Speaker 3: Well you're gonna have to be there by eleven thirty

546
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Speaker 3: ish probably right. Yeah, we start at noon. Yeah, that's

547
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Speaker 3: a three. I think it's I'm gonna I'm gonna put

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Speaker 3: the over under three oh seven.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Your plan of they're leaving and

550
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: coming back is going to be to me very quick.

551
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Speaker 3: I have to do it. I can't be I'm not

552
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Speaker 3: going to be there on the field in a suit

553
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Speaker 3: and then wear that suit to a party. Like my

554
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Speaker 3: hunch is this thing whole thing's done at four, so

555
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Speaker 3: then you got three hours to burn.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think there's like pre party. I think

557
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Speaker 2: like there isn't a dead period, it's festivities. Well okay,

558
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Speaker 2: well let's we'll get we'll get on the phone.

559
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Speaker 3: We need the full on the phone. Can you imagine

560
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: the Hoff taking our calls? Like all the things he

561
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Speaker 3: has going on. I was texting with him this weekend.

562
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking like, can you imagine how many text he's getting.

563
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Speaker 2: He's been two.

564
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Speaker 3: Weeks out to the best guy ever? Did you see

565
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Speaker 3: him get the jacket?

566
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Speaker 2: He's a legend, of course some jacket.

567
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Speaker 3: I the the idea the Hoff opens it on top

568
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Speaker 3: of his garbage cans.

569
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Speaker 2: Because that's the half. That's why it's that's why, that's

570
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Speaker 2: what best, that's why he's the Hoff.

571
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Speaker 3: All right, very good, lots to get to our owner

572
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Speaker 3: executive Vice President j W. Johnson will join us next

573
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Speaker 3: on the White Uniforms. We're often running a Listen to

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Speaker 3: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet Coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: All right, I believe we have an interview with z

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Speaker 3: and Jada Johnson, so let's go ahead and get to

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Speaker 3: that right now.

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Speaker 2: Nick Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet. Time

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Speaker 2: now to go on the Twisted Tea Hotline and bring

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Speaker 2: in what are the great luminaries and friends of the program,

585
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Speaker 2: The great JW. Johnson. JW. Great to be with you

586
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Speaker 2: here today. A lot of excitement. Were less than a

587
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Speaker 2: week away from heading to the Green Brian. We'll talk

588
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Speaker 2: about that for a second, but today the announcement was

589
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Speaker 2: made the Browns going back to their roots and they

590
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Speaker 2: will be wearing white helmets three times this season the

591
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Speaker 2: white Out as a part of the collaboration with Dude Wipes.

592
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Speaker 2: How did these white helmets come about? And boy do

593
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Speaker 2: they look clean?

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks for having me and it's great.

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Speaker 5: To be with you as usual.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, really exciting day, I think for our fans and

597
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 7: I think even see a lot of reaction from our

598
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Speaker 7: from our players in regards to the to the new

599
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Speaker 7: altarate uniform. So yeah, we're just super excited about it. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: with the NFL last year releasing or enabling teams to

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Speaker 7: have another alternate shell, the helmet, we felt like we

602
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Speaker 7: had an opportunity to do something that brought us back.

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Speaker 5: To our roots. You know.

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Speaker 7: Obviously we wore white helmets for the first six years

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Speaker 7: of our existence, and then obviously we switched the ron

606
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Speaker 7: shells I think in nineteen fifty one. So yeah, it's

607
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 7: a lot of fun, and our fans gave us a

608
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Speaker 7: lot of feedback, and I think we also want to

609
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Speaker 7: try to do as much as we can with our

610
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Speaker 7: fans and listen to them and you know, provide cool

611
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Speaker 7: things for them, like when it comes to uniforms. So

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Speaker 7: big fan collaboration as well as our internal team on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they look great, and so the Browns will

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Speaker 2: be wearing them for three games, one away too at

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Speaker 2: home the away Monday Night football against the Pittsburgh Steelers

616
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Speaker 2: Week six against the Niners here and then week seventeen

617
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Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football against the Jets and one that we

618
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Speaker 2: all think will be a very big game for both

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Speaker 2: of those teams. How did we decide kind of which games?

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Speaker 2: And man, I think it's going to be pretty cool

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Speaker 2: to see the black of the Pittsburgh Steelers against the

622
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Speaker 2: white out of the Cleveland Browns on Monday Night football

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Speaker 2: Week two.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, obviously a big one Monday night out

625
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: of the day, week two. And I think we're in

626
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Speaker 7: our throwbacks against one of our you know, rivals in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll it'll look great.

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Speaker 7: And you know, obviously we like to wear brown uniforms

629
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Speaker 7: at home, but you know, obviously having these throwbacks, who

630
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Speaker 7: want to at least try and incorporate two home games

631
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Speaker 7: this year so our home fans can enjoy them. And

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Speaker 7: you know, working with our friends at Dude Wipes and

633
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 7: they like the Niners game, which we did too. And

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00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 7: then you know, obviously finishing up the season, you know,

635
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Speaker 7: at home against the Jets in prime time.

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Speaker 6: You know, you couldn't have thought of another better way

637
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Speaker 6: to do it. So, you know, a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Fun excited for those three games and for our fans

639
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: and all the hype around them, so it'll be cool

640
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Speaker 7: to see him in action this year.

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Speaker 2: It is gonna be It's gonna be awesome. And how

642
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: was kind of the decision made to go with those

643
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: pair of those with those classics, get that classic look back,

644
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: keep the brown face mass on them because and the striping.

645
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: You know, there were a lot of little details that

646
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Speaker 2: went into this. How did you guys kind of land

647
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: on what that final look is? And when you see

648
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: it modeled by David Djoko, which you could see on

649
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: the Browns Twitter account at Browns and really all over

650
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: brown social media and the chief social media, he looks awesome.

651
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Speaker 2: I mean it looks so good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, very clean.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, think if you go back and there's some images

654
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Speaker 7: you know, from the uniforms that we had in nineteen

655
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Speaker 7: forty six and forward obviously with the shadow box letters

656
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Speaker 7: and everything that we and the numbers that we have currently,

657
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 7: it just matched up perfectly. And you know, obviously also

658
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Speaker 7: due to some league rules, we weren't just in a

659
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Speaker 7: position to be able to introduce another another jersey, so

660
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Speaker 7: we thought, like we're gonna do an alter. Let's see

661
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Speaker 7: what we can do, and per league rules, we paired

662
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Speaker 7: it up with the alternate jersey from nineteen forty six,

663
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Speaker 7: and that's how we just kind of went about it,

664
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Speaker 7: and you know, after looking at it and multiple combinations,

665
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Speaker 7: we just felt that was the best look and feel

666
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Speaker 7: and I feel really clean and sharp.

667
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Speaker 6: Like I said, I can't wait to see him in action.

668
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 6: I'm fired up.

669
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Look good, look good, play good. They

670
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: say that all the time, especially the players. They love that.

671
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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask Jimmy mac oscar worthy performance, What

673
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Speaker 2: do you think of what he did in that teaser?

674
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Speaker 2: I mean, incredible, just the emotion that the passion that

675
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Speaker 2: he portrayed.

676
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Speaker 7: Jimmy is now forever going to be doing every piece

677
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 7: of content that we need to do for the Browns.

678
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 7: He did a great job was I think, took a

679
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 7: lot of great direction and had a lot of fun

680
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Speaker 7: with it.

681
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: And always great to showcase those guys and the men

682
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Speaker 6: and women in that equipment room that in the scenes

683
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: they do a lot of hard work to no one

684
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 6: ever realizes. So it was fun to get Jimmy and

685
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 6: the team to get involved with that. But he's a

686
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: stud as usual.

687
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right. You mentioned the excitement. Obviously, we're excited

688
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: to see this team play in these white uniforms, the

689
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 2: white out and part of that partnership there with Dude Wipes,

690
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: But we're just excited to see this team period in general. Saturday,

691
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: we're what four days away from from boarding to plane

692
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: and heading to the Greenbrier to start training CAMPABS Saturday,

693
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: July the twenty second. How excited are you and just

694
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Speaker 2: kind of everybody you're talking to in this organization top down,

695
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: how excited are you guys to get this camp going

696
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: and get this season finally underway.

697
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, hard to believe that it's that it's already here,

698
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 7: and you know, obviously then we've got the Hall of

699
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 7: Fame game the following week after that and celebrating Joe

700
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 7: Thomas and the next you know, it's it'll be get

701
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 7: here quickly. But yeah, we're as a family in an organization,

702
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 7: I think everybody is excited about the season.

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Speaker 5: We're excited about every.

704
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Speaker 6: Season, you know, and I think obviously with some of.

705
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Speaker 7: The additions that we've made, whether it's the draft or

706
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 7: free agency and guys that we've had over the last

707
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Speaker 7: couple of years and seeing them to continue to develop

708
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 7: and you know, getting the Shawn a full season with.

709
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Speaker 5: Us and limiting a distraction.

710
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 6: I think it's we're all excited about it.

711
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 5: Now.

712
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Speaker 7: We's kind of go out there and put in the

713
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 7: work and you know, hopefully we get some bounces go way,

714
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 7: some good things happen, and you know, we stay off

715
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 7: the injury train. So a lot of things have happened.

716
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 7: But we're we're really excited to get everybody going again

717
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 7: and start the foot ball season.

718
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 5: And really can't wait.

719
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Speaker 7: So it'll be exciting, to say the least.

720
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Speaker 2: What are you looking for from this kind of eight

721
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: day I would call it intensive bonding, right and work

722
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: away from everything for this football team and for this,

723
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Speaker 2: you know, the football organization as a whole.

724
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it'll be great.

725
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I think this is a testament to Kevin

726
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 7: wanted to try to do something a little different. You know,

727
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Speaker 7: we're always in Burria. We've got a great facility. We

728
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 7: put a lot of.

729
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: You know, time and money into the building to provide

730
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Speaker 6: the guys everything that they.

731
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Speaker 5: Need to be successful.

732
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Speaker 6: But you know, it came to us and said, listen,

733
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Speaker 6: I think this would be a nice way to do some.

734
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Speaker 5: More team bonding. You know, since COVID really.

735
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Speaker 7: Hadn't have a chance to do it, and then you know,

736
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Speaker 7: in twenty one it was still somewhat limited.

737
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Speaker 6: So I think getting away from the facility that we're

738
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Speaker 6: in at.

739
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Speaker 7: You know, all the time, and doing something different and

740
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 7: coming up with fun activities, I think it's just a

741
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 7: great way for the guys to continue to get to

742
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 7: know each other, be a real team, and grow through

743
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Speaker 7: the process. So I think it'll be a bloss We're

744
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 7: going to get a lot of great work in but

745
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 7: I think we're also gonna have a lot of fun

746
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Speaker 7: in between.

747
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Speaker 2: I think we are too, which should be a very

748
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: exciting thing. It's an exciting time. This is a great

749
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: little teaser as a way to kind of get that

750
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: energy up, get people excited as we start into really

751
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: the start of the twenty twenty three Cleveland Brown season.

752
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: JW thank you so much. I know, the fans, thank

753
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: you all the things you've kind of have done and

754
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: put together. Listening to them. We saw the white face

755
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: mask last year. Maybe we'll see them again, I don't know.

756
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: We can't say, but now we got these beautiful white

757
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: helmets to go with those throwback unis so very exciting.

758
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure the fans are going to be pumped out

759
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: all that.

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Speaker 7: Well, we want to thank the fans personally. I do

761
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 7: obviously for their support obviously through all the things that

762
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Speaker 7: we've been through as a football team. And like I said,

763
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 7: our fans are undefeated and look forward to seeing them

764
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 7: being loud and proud throughout training camp and obviously during

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Speaker 7: the preseason the regular season. But also want to thank

766
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Speaker 7: them for all their participation. You know, we started off

767
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 7: last year with the coming up with the new fighting

768
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 7: Brownie and launching him on the fifty.

769
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Speaker 6: And obviously we're we're really excited about her new dogs.

770
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Speaker 7: Based logo, which you know, we have a great fan

771
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Speaker 7: interaction and had you know someone designed that that has

772
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Speaker 7: a place in their heart for the brown So great

773
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Speaker 7: partition participation there.

774
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: And then obviously hearing the folks about the white.

775
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 7: The white helme at the alternate So obviously going to

776
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 7: keep listening to them, like you said, you know, paying

777
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: attention to scores. We might have more to come, baby,

778
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 7: so some more things to get excited about. Whether that's

779
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 7: this year or next year, you just have to stay.

780
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Speaker 2: Tuned, stay tuned. The great J. W. Johnson Clever Brown's

781
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: partner with us, the luminary of luminaries and a great

782
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: friend to CBD and really everybody in Brown's nation. Again

783
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Speaker 2: it is the white Out. It's brought to you by

784
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Speaker 2: partnership with Dude Wifes. It'll be Week two at Pittsburgh,

785
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Week six at home San Francisco, Week seventeen at home

786
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: against the Jets, and that Week two of Pittsburgh that

787
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: is Monday Night football. That is going to be just awesome. JW.

788
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time. We'll see at the Greenbrier and

789
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: get this thing going.

790
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Speaker 6: Thanks pal seeing this weekend all.

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Speaker 3: we've been taking a look our best guest in your stead.

805
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: Yesterday I did tight end. I got seven out of ten,

806
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: so it wasn't bad, respectable, very good, seven out of ten.

807
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: But they did not have the chief on there, and

808
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: they had who was the one that was a great dispute?

809
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: Was it Waller?

810
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: There was somebody that was on there that I was Pits, Yeah, Pitts.

811
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Speaker 2: Didn't that Chief? I feel like I could that one.

812
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: I would. I feel like I could do all right

813
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 2: on that one.

814
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: I missed Chief Evert Dawson Knox, Oh, yeah, I missed.

815
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the guys I had on my ten.

816
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: You got seven out of ten in the top ten.

817
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: He was, and so I did. I had Everett wrong,

818
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: I had Chief wrong?

819
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 5: I had.

820
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had Ever.

821
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the other one.

822
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: Was does it a guy from the Chargers that was Ever?

823
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: There was?

824
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: Now there was another guy? There was somebody else I

825
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: got It doesn't matter, all right, We're doing tackles. Doing

826
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: tackles today, doctor Z top ten tackles.

827
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Alright, I'm gonna try on this. Yep, tight ends. I

828
00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: feel like.

829
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: You had had a better, better fantasy. We don't have

830
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: to have tight ends, so I don't.

831
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't pay.

832
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: But until I was happy with seven out of ten.

833
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: And Kittle andrews Kelsey, Goddard, Ingram and Waller, like locks

834
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: would have been six locks, you said, Pitts.

835
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, knocks.

836
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 2: You know docs too. I can't believe that I would

837
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: never all right, anyway, all right, tackles, Yep, this I am.

838
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 2: I'd be happy if I can get to five or six.

839
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Look at Scarlett.

840
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: There he is, he was in here yesterday. What's he got?

841
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: Where's he carrying his kicks?

842
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: He's got a real saunter, going to real saunter. All right,

843
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best here this. I'm not Optimistice

844
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Trent Williams, he's number one, Laramie Tunsel, He's two. Tyrone Smith,

845
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: Tyrone Smith is on the list.

846
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Tyron Smith is a honorable mention.

847
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: Okay.

848
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown Junior.

849
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown, I'm gonna tell you what like, for whatever reason,

850
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: this is a slow loading page.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown Junior not on the list?

853
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: What not on the list? That's stunning to me? Is

854
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: he not even honorable mention?

855
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: I thought that was a lock c it he is

856
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: others receiving votes?

857
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Wow?

858
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeahwo Tron Armstead Armstead is not on the list. I'm

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00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: out three strikes him out? Lane Johnson Lane Johnson is

860
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: on the list. He's four. Okay. Tristan Wurf's he's on

861
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: the list. He's three. Okay.

862
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: Panay Seowel Panae Sewel is on the list. He is six.

863
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm still okay. You've seen a seventy percent.

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: So what do I have so far?

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Speaker 5: Have you? One?

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Speaker 2: Two, missed three and I missed three? Yeah, that's wild

867
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Speaker 2: to me. Dion Dawkins.

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Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins is not on the list.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Louise to get one more? Uh? Christian Darisa ninth

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Speaker 2: on the list? Okay, Conklin not not that's it. I'm

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Speaker 2: out of guess it's all right.

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00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: So, uh, Fifth on the list was Jordan may Latta.

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Speaker 2: Oh the big tackle from them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they have the Philly tackles at four and

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Speaker 3: five on the list. You mentioned Sewell. Andrew Thomas was

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Speaker 3: seven of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: That's what I forgot.

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Speaker 3: He's probably criminally that's probably too low for him based

879
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Speaker 3: on what he was last year.

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Speaker 2: Rashaan Slater that's eight. Rookie. Is that the Chiefs guy? No,

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Speaker 2: he Chargers, I mean the Chargers got That's what I meant. Charger.

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Speaker 2: And then Derisaw was the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Colton Miller of the Raiders is ten.

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Speaker 2: That one I would not have gotten. So that was

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Speaker 2: that list.

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Speaker 3: The honorable mentions are Ryan ram Check with the Saints,

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Speaker 3: Tarren Armstead, Bachtiari, Brian O'Neill, Tyron Smith, and then the

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Speaker 3: others receiving votes were Juwan Taylor, Orlando Brown, Jake Matthews,

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Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins, Taylor Decker, and Taylor Moton of Carolina. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there you go, it is all right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Dude wipes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland h Right, Welcome back into Cleveland, Brown Dailey brought

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Speaker 3: now had out on the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to

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Speaker 3: you by Twisted t Hardeiced the official sponsor for your

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. He is the CEO

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Speaker 3: of Dude Wipes. He is Ryan Meaghan, and he joins us.

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Speaker 3: This was a this was fun, man. How did this

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Speaker 3: thing come about? You guys? Of course, the official sponsor.

907
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Speaker 3: You get the viral video yesterday and then the unveiling today.

908
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Speaker 3: How did this? How did this partnership come to be?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. We're super excited about it.

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00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 8: So basically, you know, shout out to the Browns upper

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Speaker 8: management and ownership, specifically Eric Klaus, the CCO, who approached

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Speaker 8: our sports agency and said, listen, you guys are a

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Speaker 8: challenger brand, and we want to be a challenger brand

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Speaker 8: as well. We think this could be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: So these these talks started probably end of last year

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Speaker 8: and you know, kind of progressed and you know, Dude

917
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Speaker 8: Wipes and the Browns. You know, the application of our

918
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Speaker 8: product plus the Browns. You can't think of anything better.

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Speaker 8: So we're super excited. We love having fun. The Browns

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Speaker 8: are trying to be a challenger brand. They're obviously you know,

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Speaker 8: had a decent year last year and looking to have

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Speaker 8: an even better year this year. So we're here to

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Speaker 8: help clean things up and you know, hope if everything

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Speaker 8: goes well. But we're super excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think our fans are very excited too.

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Speaker 2: The wide out three games at Pittsburgh on Monday night

927
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Speaker 2: football that's going to look spectacular, the Niners and then

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Speaker 2: the Jets outside are you kind of have those three

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Speaker 2: games that know that it's big rivalry with the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: the Niners, who are a perennial power, and then a

931
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Speaker 2: primetime game with the Jets.

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Speaker 8: No, totally, you know, doesn't get any bigger than primetime football.

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Speaker 8: And then we'll come back to the Niners game at home,

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Speaker 8: where you know, we'll have a little bit more presence

935
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Speaker 8: on site with some sampling. We've also got other assets involved.

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Speaker 8: We're going to be sponsoring every time the Browns go

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Speaker 8: for two any attempts, we're going to be donating two

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Speaker 8: thousand one PPEs to our partner Crons and Colitis, and

939
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Speaker 8: for any successful attempt. We will be donating two thousand

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Speaker 8: dollars to Crowns and Coliitis, So there's a there's a

941
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Speaker 8: nice you know, charity element to go with this two

942
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Speaker 8: as well as having a little fun with the funds.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, three exciting games and its couln't be more

944
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Speaker 8: excited for the season to start here and uh, you know,

945
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Speaker 8: just about like six eight weeks or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've got the Going for two promotion you

947
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Speaker 2: just talked about that, the Wide Out series, and then

948
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Speaker 2: there'll be some other things for fans this season where

949
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Speaker 2: can people check out, you know and get more information

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Speaker 2: or to place in order to get some dude wipes

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Speaker 2: for themselves.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're we're nationwide, so we're in every Walmart, Target, Kroger, uh,

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Speaker 8: and even Meyer. We're going to be doing a fun

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Speaker 8: sweepstakes with Meyer to give away some front row seats

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Speaker 8: to a couple of games this season, so keep an

956
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Speaker 8: eye out on that. We're still working out the details.

957
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Speaker 8: And then also Amazon, which is obviously easy for everybody,

958
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Speaker 8: so really fun to be a part of the NFL.

959
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Speaker 8: And like I said, it couldn't be more perfect matchmate

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Speaker 8: and having than du.

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Speaker 3: Dwights and the brown Ryan, can I can I just

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Speaker 3: ask you about the product for a second, because I yeah,

963
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Speaker 3: when when I had kids, when we for my oldest

964
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Speaker 3: is eleven now and we have three boys, and when

965
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Speaker 3: we had him, I'm like and immediately I're gonna change everything,

966
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Speaker 3: like this is better? Why am I? Why am I not?

967
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Speaker 3: Why have I not been doing this this whole time?

968
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Speaker 3: How did is? Do you have a similar story the

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Speaker 3: genesis for you? How did how did this? How did

970
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Speaker 3: this happen? Because now it's part of the life. It's

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Speaker 3: part of my life.

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Speaker 8: Man, No, for sure, and thanks for bringing that up.

973
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 8: So yeah, we started the company out of lake View,

974
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Speaker 8: just down the street from Wrigley Field, me and me

975
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Speaker 8: and my two partners, and we were using baby wipes,

976
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Speaker 8: both packed the baby white from Sam's cob and we

977
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Speaker 8: were just sawing through these things. And we always joke about,

978
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Speaker 8: you know, on late nights of Miller Lights and burritos

979
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Speaker 8: here in Chicago, we.

980
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Speaker 2: Would you know, we all had kind of.

981
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Speaker 8: The entrepreneurial spirit and talked about starting a company together.

982
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Speaker 8: So finally we had the aha moment of like what

983
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Speaker 8: if it's these wipes? We did we did a little

984
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Speaker 8: research and saw there was only brands out there for

985
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Speaker 8: women and babies, so we wanted to bring something funner,

986
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Speaker 8: bigger and flushable for dudes and kind of go on

987
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Speaker 8: the crusade to enlighten, you know, kind of do nation

988
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Speaker 8: as we call it, to this new bathroom routine, which

989
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Speaker 8: you know, leaves you cleaner and fresher and feeling better.

990
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Speaker 8: And that's where we started. And you know, twenty twelve

991
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Speaker 8: ish twenty fifteen we got our first nationwide deal and

992
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 8: now we're in twenty thousand stores nationwide, where the number

993
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Speaker 8: two brand in the country behind Cottonell and nipping at

994
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Speaker 8: their heels, and we just want to keep growing this thing.

995
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Speaker 8: So the Browns we thought was a great another stepping

996
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Speaker 8: stone to get the brand out there.

997
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, crazy, I think did you ever think

998
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: over those burritos and Miller Lights that you'd be partnering

999
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Speaker 2: with an NFL team and a part of something as

1000
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Speaker 2: big as as this. Now with your with your wide

1001
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Speaker 2: out series, we've been we've.

1002
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Speaker 8: Been trying for years. You know, we'll you'll you'll see

1003
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Speaker 8: us kind of troll Taco Taco Bell and Chipotle online,

1004
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 8: but they always kind of stay away. So again, big

1005
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 8: shout out to the Browns were taking the leap and

1006
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Speaker 8: just trying to have fun. And people see that authenticity

1007
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 8: and that's what the brand has been built on, is

1008
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Speaker 8: authenticity and and people, at the end of the day,

1009
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Speaker 8: whether it's in there, whether they want to admit it

1010
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Speaker 8: or not, within their group of friends or whatnot. Everybody

1011
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Speaker 8: loves a little bathroom humor. So it's amazing to be

1012
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 8: where we're at now, but we always had that drive

1013
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 8: and it can be happier and more grateful to be

1014
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Speaker 8: where we're at today. So this we'll just take.

1015
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Speaker 5: Us to the next up.

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00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: Well, this has been great man, Thank you so much

1017
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: for your time and look forward to the sponsorship and

1018
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: the partnership going forward. Thanks for your time today, Bud,

1019
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: Thanks guys so much, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 5: We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Meck and he's the CEO of Dude Wipes.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, we hit the positional previews. We're on

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Speaker 3: in just a second. Gibbe here with me in studio. Now,

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Speaker 3: how are you, sir? Let me see if you're on?

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Speaker 2: Is he on?

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Speaker 4: Is the not turned all the way up?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Now you are?

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Speaker 4: Now you're going to squeak there.

1039
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Speaker 3: It was a little low.

1040
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Speaker 2: Now you're good.

1041
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Speaker 4: Now you get yes, right, we're learning on the fly here.

1042
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: There's only one way for people on the job experience.

1043
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Speaker 3: Do you know that there are there are two. They're

1044
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Speaker 3: not endorsers, so I wouldn't otherwise I would say their names.

1045
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Speaker 3: There are two businesses that that exact thought led to

1046
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: kind of like a created business, which is those teach

1047
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: to swim kids. Stuff like that didn't exist.

1048
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Speaker 4: When I was a kid, paying for my and now

1049
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: the son currently.

1050
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they throw them in there, yep, and little Tommy's

1051
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: got to sort it out and figure out how to swim.

1052
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: Get on get on your back, start floating.

1053
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Now, I feel like I just I

1054
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Speaker 3: My wife always laughed at me. I'm like, I'm pretty

1055
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: sure I taught myself how to swim. I don't remember

1056
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Speaker 3: a swim lesson.

1057
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Speaker 4: I had swim lessons. Yeah, I had swim lessons, like

1058
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Speaker 4: all the way to the top. And yet the biggest

1059
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Speaker 4: challenge I had from a swim lesson standpoint, I was

1060
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Speaker 4: terrified to go off the diving board. Like I got

1061
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Speaker 4: to like the highest level that you could from a

1062
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Speaker 4: swim and like even.

1063
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Speaker 3: The short dive.

1064
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Speaker 4: It was the short dive, and I was terrified. Like

1065
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Speaker 4: my parents were never one to bribe their children to

1066
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Speaker 4: do things. My parents offered me rebock pumps, every kind

1067
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Speaker 4: of shoe under the planet, if you can just take

1068
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Speaker 4: a jump off, because always you're gonna fail this and

1069
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to, you know, go back. It was

1070
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Speaker 4: that the again, I'm I can't go any higher from

1071
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Speaker 4: a lessons standpoint, like you've done able to try water

1072
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Speaker 4: for five minutes and I was able to like do

1073
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Speaker 4: all this other stuff and then I jumped off the

1074
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Speaker 4: board and I'm like, yep, now I'm hooked. Now they're

1075
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Speaker 4: throwing me footballs and I'm jumping. That's jumping off the

1076
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Speaker 4: Olympic high dive trying to catch footballs.

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Speaker 3: You want to know who never had any fear of

1078
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Speaker 3: jumping off of anything into a pool?

1079
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, isn't that amazing?

1080
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Speaker 4: What a great picture. That's a good camera.

1081
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he requested that Dad take a picture of me

1082
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Speaker 3: while I do this.

1083
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Speaker 2: Punk, absolutely punk.

1084
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Speaker 4: Someone just treating him like a win for.

1085
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Speaker 3: A steady diet of green lights. And it's a boulevard

1086
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Speaker 3: of green lights for him. There's not a yellow anywhere.

1087
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: It's just green. And if I even think of putting

1088
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: up a red, Nope. Not sure how to handle it.

1089
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 5: Now.

1090
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: How does the misses react to this? Because she's got

1091
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: to be.

1092
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: We both realize that it's that there needs to be.

1093
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: That we're in a right now or what I like

1094
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: to refer to as a corrective state. So we're correcting

1095
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: what has been, you know, a month's worth of green lights.

1096
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: Well, and I feel like things are going to get

1097
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 4: a little worse here as we get into August and

1098
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: the school comes back into play.

1099
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: He thrives there, I mean he'll thrive. He'll do fine.

1100
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: Like he won't like there's no us.

1101
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: Change or like getting back into routine. Look at this,

1102
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: of course just steady.

1103
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: He could now that.

1104
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: Now we can't even see what's going.

1105
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: On back there.

1106
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 4: No, there's all locked off. There's a new conference room.

1107
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: I was told our department tried to book that conference

1108
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: room and we were told nice, try.

1109
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: I bet you were told you are a little l.

1110
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: You are not a big L.

1111
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: No big go in that conference room.

1112
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: Not for you at all.

1113
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, but it's a Joe Thomas conference room.

1114
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: The hoff Oh I did sort out summer cocktail as well,

1115
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: So it is jacket, pants, button shirt, no tie necessary,

1116
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: no socks necessary. It's basically what I'm starting. I'm now

1117
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: referring to as Gatsby light.

1118
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 4: The jacket's going to be a problem because I'm a sweater.

1119
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: You need to get a linen.

1120
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: You think I'm a sweater. Way do you get a

1121
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: load of Yellowstone out there?

1122
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: Yellowstone.

1123
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: He's got special things he's got to do before we

1124
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: even go golfing.

1125
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: He gets himself all to be all insulated.

1126
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: Something I don't know. But and even then, I'm like,

1127
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's working for you. He's a sweater,

1128
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: But so am I, So I'm like.

1129
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 3: Uh, you're gonna be sitzen.

1130
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: We'll hope for a cool August night.

1131
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll happen. It'll be the hottest end of the year.

1132
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: That's going to be ninety for sure, which we haven't

1133
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: had yet. There's been a great deal of noise here.

1134
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: This is over the last twenty four hours in regard

1135
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: to the running back position and the compensation for it.

1136
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: So I actually had this this list. I saw this on.

1137
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: I wish I should give proper credit for the tweet

1138
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: that I saw it on. It's Ari MAYORV on my

1139
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: sports update with this in terms of the this is

1140
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: what's happened at the running back position in the NFL

1141
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: this offseason. So this was from the veteran running backs.

1142
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon and Aaron Jones took pay cuts. We talked

1143
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: about mixing yesterday. Ezekiel, Elliott, Dalvin Cook, Leonard Furnette all cut.

1144
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: So all of those guys were obviously first round picks,

1145
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: high first round picks. They've all since been cut. Zeke

1146
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: did get his money in the biggest possible way, tagged,

1147
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: but no deal. And this is why this is coming

1148
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: up because Pollard did not get a deal done. Saquon

1149
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: Barkley didn't get a deal done. Josh Jacobs didn't get

1150
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: a deal done, and they all thought that they would.

1151
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: Barkley actually said he wanted to reset the market on

1152
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: the running back position, but all of that happened.

1153
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: No deals.

1154
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler asked for a trade or.

1155
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: A new deal.

1156
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: To this point, he's gotten none of that. And Kareem

1157
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: Huntsman a free agent obviously the entire offseason, So that

1158
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: gets you an idea of where you are from a

1159
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: running back position. This was exacerbated by Matt Miller, who

1160
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: we've had on before, NFL Draft scout works for ESPN now,

1161
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: and he said that the NFL model now is draft

1162
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: a running back tag, a running back draft, another running

1163
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: back cut. The first running back is essentially part ways

1164
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: with the first running back.

1165
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1166
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: One, you're you're a one contract rookie contract.

1167
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 5: Yep.

1168
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: And if you get the second one, like Nick Chubb

1169
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: or Derrick Henry or Joe Mixon or Ezekiel Elliott, if

1170
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: there's no chance that you're gonna see another Ezekiel Elliott

1171
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: contract or another Todd Gurley cott. You'll never see those again.

1172
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: But even like the Nick or the Derrick Henry, which

1173
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: was shorter term, higher guaranteed money right away. Even those

1174
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: contracts are incredibly scarce to find. I understand. I mean,

1175
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: I've seen McCaffrey, Nick Chubb retweeted Derrick Henry's tweet about this.

1176
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: We've seen this throughout the league. I understand the disappointment

1177
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: for running backs. I get it. It's reasonable, but also say,

1178
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: this is just supplying demand. Yeah, and unfortunately, if you

1179
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: are an NFL team and you're looking at the position

1180
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 3: the cat, the cat, the tag number on it's around

1181
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: ten is the tag running back, which is obviously one

1182
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: of the lowest in the league. But NFL teams would

1183
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: look at it and say, Okay, we can have this

1184
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: guy going into his eighth season or seventh season, or

1185
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: we can draft a kid and even if he's not

1186
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of him, if he's eighty ninety percent,

1187
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: it's cheaper. We'll go this way and we'll spend our

1188
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: money at quarterback. Maybe we can develop him corners correct,

1189
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: And that's just that's it's a little bit of group think.

1190
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll ever change, but that's where

1191
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: you are in the league and we're going to be

1192
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: in this position here next year with Nick trying to

1193
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: figure out what that looks like.

1194
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: I just I don't I can appreciate what Saquan is

1195
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: trying to do in terms of getting fair compensation for

1196
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: his position and trying to be a trend center. I

1197
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 4: guess that's not probably the right word, but it is

1198
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 4: he's trying to.

1199
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: They get pressured by their agents and buy the NFLPA

1200
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: to every time a general. It's the same reason I

1201
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: think why the Borough contract hasn't been announced yet, because

1202
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: they know he can reset the market. His talent demands

1203
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 3: that they reset the market.

1204
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: But that's what they try to do with Lamar, correct But.

1205
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that he has I don't think that's

1206
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: most important to him. So that's this real issue here,

1207
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: is you get pressure from your agent, you get pressure

1208
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: from the PA to reset the market. But is it

1209
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: what's been in the case of Joe, is that what's

1210
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: wanted by him and my hunches. No, So yeah, Barkley's

1211
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: being pressured because he's generational when he's healthy, wants to

1212
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: reset it.

1213
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: That's why, like if you're if you're if you're Josh Jacobs,

1214
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: you could probably do this. Yeah, but like Sequan's coming off.

1215
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: He had a great year last year. Taking nothing away fromhim,

1216
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: but he was he's been hurt prior to that. Yeah,

1217
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 4: so you're trying to reset the market. Frankly, you just

1218
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: need to be trying to get all the money you

1219
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: can make because you're one another bad injury away from

1220
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: being done in the National Football League.

1221
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's kind of like that where McCaffrey was,

1222
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: where he was hurt all the time and then he

1223
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: got paid before all of that happened. I know the

1224
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: sense it's changing. I will say this too, I'm very

1225
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: curious if the wide receiver position will turn into this

1226
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 3: in five years because much as there is a glut

1227
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: of talent at running back in the draft every year

1228
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: year and year out, there are so many receivers that

1229
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: are coming in NFL ready. If when it comes time

1230
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: for a receiver at twenty eight to get another big contract,

1231
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: if team just says, you know what, We've seen that

1232
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 3: with Tyreek Hill, right, we saw it with DeAndre Hopkins, like.

1233
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: Digs.

1234
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a ton of them. Yeah, it's already happening,

1235
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: But I do wonder if the number will come, will

1236
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: kind of come down a little.

1237
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: Bit at receiver through the years.

1238
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that happened. I mean, it truly depends on

1239
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: your class, the class coming out, like the NFL, like

1240
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: this was the first year that how many wide receivers

1241
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: taken two or three?

1242
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: I think there were three this year it was Flowers, Smith.

1243
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: Was exceptionally Addison, Yeah, previous to the past couple of years. Like,

1244
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: if that trend were to continue, then the value of

1245
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: those guys I think remains high. But if you start

1246
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: getting those classes where seven, eight, yeah, even nine wide

1247
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: receivers go in the first round, those guys that sign

1248
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: those rookie deals, I mean, if you're not in the

1249
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: top ten at your position, you're not getting what you

1250
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: want when you have the market.

1251
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: No, no, you're not. And that's that's kind of the

1252
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: reality of where you are with that position, where I

1253
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: think you are a little bit at the running back position.

1254
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: You know, this is I saw this Austin Eckler, and

1255
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: this is just also two where it is and it

1256
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: speaks to the over abundance of importance put on the

1257
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: quarterback position. Eckler tweeted out, and this was the Matt

1258
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: Miller quote talking about how to handle running backs, and

1259
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: Eckler tweeted out, this is the kind of trash that

1260
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: artificially delivered one of the most important positions in the game.

1261
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: Devalued one of the most important positions in the game.

1262
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: Everyone knows it's tough to win without a top running back,

1263
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: yet they act like we're discardible widgets. I support any

1264
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: running back doing whatever it takes to get his bag.

1265
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: Now I think Eckler could get his bag because he

1266
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: catches the ball out of the backfield Caffrey all the time,

1267
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: like McCaffrey, true dual threat. So someone on Twitter went

1268
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champions leading rusher year by year. So

1269
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: it's Isaiah Pacheco with the Chiefs last year, Sony Michelle

1270
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: with the Rams, Ronald Jones, Damian Williams with the Chiefs,

1271
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: Sonny Michelle with the Patriots that time, Lagarrett Blunt, Legarrett Blunt,

1272
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: Ronnie Hill, and Shane Verreen. None of those are Who's

1273
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: who's you got to go back to, Like to build

1274
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: a team around a run game in a defense, you're

1275
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: probably going to win a Super Bowl. It's probably Broncos, yeah,

1276
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: and then a little bit probably Seahawks. They got lucky

1277
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: with Wilson being as good as he was. That was

1278
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: built around beast mode in that defense. So there's a

1279
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: couple of instances. But now the corb it's so easy

1280
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: to pass. It's such a past friendly league that the

1281
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: position just isn't what it once was.

1282
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not. You can't score thirty five points

1283
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: a game running the ball fifty times.

1284
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: No, and that goes Actually that buttress is my point

1285
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: I think on where I think you're headed at receiver.

1286
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: The Chiefs won it without Tyreek Hill. They slid Kelsey,

1287
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: but everybody else they plug and played because they have

1288
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: a supernova quarterback and they had Kelsey and that's what

1289
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: allows for it all to happen.

1290
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: All right.

1291
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: Coming up next, we'll take a look at a positional

1292
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: preview on the defensive front at the defensive Tackle Room.

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Speaker 3: by bally Bet Sports. Betting partner your Cleveland Browns z rejoins.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Looks like you attle little zests a little more zest

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Speaker 3: than when you left, little less of other things.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, good job. I don't know. Does this is

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Speaker 2: my color better?

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Speaker 3: It feels like you have I do see there's a

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Speaker 3: buoyancy to your cheeks, which I did not see twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes ago. So I think that's good. All right, we're back.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Yeah, we giddy and I

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Speaker 3: were ha this was running back conversation. You wanted to

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Speaker 3: weigh in, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did so. I think if if the salary cap

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Speaker 2: were not an issue, if you know, yes, better running

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Speaker 2: it is, you would rather have a better running back

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Speaker 2: than a not as good running back. But it is

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Speaker 2: much more difficult to win consistently year over year in

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Speaker 2: the NFL with a roster that is paying a running

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Speaker 2: back top dollar. I would also add to that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the last six times the team really paid a big

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Speaker 2: running back. Ezekiel Elliott was cut during that deal and

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Speaker 2: it remains unsigned. Christian McCaffrey was traded during that deal.

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook has been cut before the conclusion of that deal.

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Speaker 2: Todd Gurley was cut before the conclusion of his deal.

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Speaker 2: Le'Veon Bell was cut during the conclusion during the duration

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Speaker 2: of his deal, and Alvin Kamara potentially could be cut.

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Speaker 2: He would be the other one. You know, it's a

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Speaker 2: difficult position to be able to pay and then have

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Speaker 2: that kind of success you want. One, there is an

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Speaker 2: abundance of supply. Two, it is unfortunately a decreasing asset.

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Speaker 2: Running Backs over time slow down as they get older

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Speaker 2: because of the wear and tear on their bodies. In

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Speaker 2: the position do I wish and I honestly think I

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Speaker 2: read this. I don't know who said this, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's a very valid point. There could be a

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Speaker 2: world right if you want running backs to be compensated.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the NFL decides that running back sellaries account only

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Speaker 2: half against the cap, or maybe they don't count against

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Speaker 2: the cap at all. If you want them to be

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Speaker 2: compensated on the level of stars that they are. The

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Speaker 2: reality is it is not good business for a team

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Speaker 2: in the NFL to do that. Teams that do the

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Speaker 2: best are the ones that seem to you put those

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Speaker 2: assets in other places that are not as declining of

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Speaker 2: assets that directly impact more of the modern game, and

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Speaker 2: then you stock up on second round running backs, third

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Speaker 2: round running backs. Sometimes in a very special case, if

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Speaker 2: you're fully ready made, you take a first round running back,

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Speaker 2: you know, and just drop him in, Like Philly could

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Speaker 2: have done that with Bjon Robinson and it would have

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Speaker 2: made a lot of sense yause they didn't really have

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Speaker 2: the other needs. And so then it's like, Okay.

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Speaker 3: This is an embarrassment of riches and embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Rich Let's take it's a luxury and so we can

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Speaker 2: get a supreme talent on a contract that would be

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Speaker 2: because he's a rookie, less than it would be obviously

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Speaker 2: on the open market. It's been going this way for

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Speaker 2: a long time. I think they should get everything that

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Speaker 2: they can get when you're a running back, get everything

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Speaker 2: you can get while you can get it. And I

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Speaker 2: under all these guys, I feel that way about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyfl you got to get what.

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Speaker 2: You can get when you can get it. But it's

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Speaker 2: just kind of the reality of the situation in the

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Speaker 2: sense that there is a never ending supply. Now, what

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Speaker 2: could shift that would be if kids high school college,

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Speaker 2: the most talented kids who you just give play running

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Speaker 2: back early on because he give them the ball and

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Speaker 2: then they score, say, you know what, I'm playing receiver,

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Speaker 2: not playing running back anymore.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's happened already over the course of

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Speaker 3: the last I think Randy Moss started that trend because

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Speaker 3: kids kids now seeking out receiver. When you think about

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Speaker 3: the best college football players, it's been a while since

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Speaker 3: a running back won the Heisman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's also part of the evolution of the game.

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Speaker 3: The true But if the best positional player coming out

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Speaker 3: of the draft, it's b Jon Robinson's rare, Yes, that

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Speaker 3: the best. He was the best position player probably in

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Speaker 3: college football last year in terms of his ceiling, not

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Speaker 3: necessarily his production, but his ceiling. Like next year it's

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior. He's a receiver, ben Jamar Chase. There's

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Speaker 3: been a bunch of pits. I mean, there's been a

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Speaker 3: ton of those guys that have been receiver oriented. Has

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Speaker 3: been what it's been. So I think that cut to

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Speaker 3: what I was getting to with Gibbe at the end there,

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Speaker 3: and our conversation was, I do wonder if the receiver position,

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Speaker 3: and it's already I came. There's several examples of Tyree Kill,

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins, where you know what we're not going to

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Speaker 3: pay you two twenty seven million dollars, will get a

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Speaker 3: bunch of different guys to kind of make that all

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Speaker 3: work and find that they're certainly transcendent players that you're

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Speaker 3: gonna pay, Like obviously they'll pay Jamar Chase, but we

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Speaker 3: saw it with Diggs as well, where there are certain

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Speaker 3: guys that, no, we're not going.

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Speaker 2: To do it, and it's just not always that easy

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Speaker 2: that you trade that draft justin Jefferson and oh this

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: worked out splendidly. I mean, you know, Traylon Burke. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to write off at all in Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: but certainly did not make up for the AJ Brown production,

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Speaker 2: and that GM was fired right after AJ Brown torched

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Speaker 2: the Titans. As a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. It's

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Speaker 2: a tough thing. There's always a supply. The amount of

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Speaker 2: talented receivers is certainly on the rise, given the proliferation

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Speaker 2: of you know, offensive spreading out more eleven personnel in college.

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Speaker 2: But I just think it's an unfortunate thing. And I

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Speaker 2: think we here are so lucky to have Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 2: But I think people need to be cognizant of the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's unlikely Nick Chubb is a Brown for

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Speaker 2: the rest of his career just because sure, that's a

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Speaker 2: very difficult thing to do from a financial standpoint, and

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Speaker 2: try to have an organization once you've invested in a

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: See you were talking about Mixon yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he took a huge pay cut.

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Speaker 3: Joe Mixon. Anytime I talked to anybody down there, they

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Speaker 3: were like, obviously gonough to cut Mixon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At some point, and Mixon made the decision that I

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Speaker 3: like this situation, I like playing here, this is the market.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure right, Yeah, I'm sure he's unhappy about it,

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Speaker 3: but that's what was most important to him at this

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Speaker 3: point in his career was that, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: He's stuck for a lot less and I think what

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Speaker 2: you'll see is shorter term deals with running backs, and

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Speaker 2: teams that have not yet invested in a franchise quarterback

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: are more app to pay that running back. But that

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Speaker 2: becomes the conundrum of well, if you don't have the

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, can you truly be a serious team in

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Speaker 2: the NFL? And I look at the Titans, so I

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: think got everything they could out of that organization. But

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, with Derrick Henry and Ryan Tanniel.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to win a super Bowl. When we

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Speaker 2: did not have a franchise quarterback, we leaned heavily on

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Speaker 2: Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. Oh yeah, to be a

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Speaker 2: competent football team. But now that you have that guy,

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Speaker 2: there's a different style we're going to have this year

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Speaker 2: and perhaps next year where you've got it all, which

1437
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing, but then tough decisions are going

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: to have to be made, and unfortunate decisions. It's just

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Speaker 2: it is the way of the league. You know. Saquon

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Speaker 2: Barkley I think, turned down a deal that had twenty

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Speaker 2: two million guaranteed. I read so he's going to get

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Speaker 2: ten this year, which means he needs to get twelve

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: next year to make that and unfortunately, with that position,

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: there's likely that he could get injured this year. Now,

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Speaker 2: he would say it was probably worth more than twenty

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01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: two guaranteed, but the market is what the market is,

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: and a guy like Christian Kirk can get seventeen a year,

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: you know you've got And I saw the skewed stat

1449
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: that says kickers make this and running backs make this, Well,

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01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: the fact is pretty much every team in the league

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01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: has one or two running backs on rookie.

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Speaker 3: Deals for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the kickers that are still left in the

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Speaker 2: league very fewer on rookie deals. Many of them are veterans.

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Speaker 2: And then the ones who are really good are still

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: getting paid but not crazy relative to other positions. But

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Speaker 2: compared to a running back, third round running back on

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Speaker 2: a rookie salary or a fourth round or even a

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: fifth round running back like Chase Brown will be down

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, that's a different thing. Look at our team

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01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: we're gonna have as it sits right now. We're going

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: to have Nick Chubb getting compensated very well, Drome Ford

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Speaker 2: on the second year of a fifth round rookie deal,

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Speaker 2: potentially Demitric Felton on the third year of a seventh

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: round rookie deal, right, or maybe you sign one guy

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: at the veteran minimum mm hmm. Other than that, it's

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Speaker 2: asan Hollow's an undrafted free agent on the first year

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: of his deal. John Kelly would be kind of in

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: that same boat of not making a ton of money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just the way it is. And

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Speaker 2: what we've seen throughout the league is when you've got

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Speaker 2: a good scheme and you've got we'll call it a

1473
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 2: competent offensive line or run game. Guys come in and

1474
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: are able to flourish. I mean Jalen Warren Carrie for

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: Carrie was more efficient and effective than Najie Harris last year. Yes,

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: and he was an undrafted free agent. Yep Isaiah but

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: Checo was a seventh round pick and was outperforming a

1478
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 2: first round pick in Clyde Edwards Hilaire. It's difficult to

1479
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: explain what makes it work. Part of it is staying healthy,

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: part of its division, all of that. Tony Pollard. I

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Speaker 2: don't remember where they drafted Tony Pollard, but I can't

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Speaker 2: recall if it was that high and he helped. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no way it was. And he's outplayed Zeke. I

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: think he's like to be a fourth round pick. You know,

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: it's just unfortunately that's the league. And when you can

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: find all these guys he played at Memphis. Yeah, so

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: where was fourth round picks? Okay, so Firth round in

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01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, right, and he's outplayed Zeke Carrie for Carrie

1489
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: since he has been there. That's why you're in this situation.

1490
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: And I think it goes back to you know, remember

1491
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: when Le'Veon Bell held out.

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, and then James apologized for that over

1493
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: the weekend for the to the Steeler fans.

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: Did you see that? No, Yeah, well then James Connor

1495
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 2: stepped then and was really good, and they're like, oh, well,

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01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: maybe we can.

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Speaker 3: Just and even like anybody, and even for the ones

1498
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: that are our special, whether it's our guy Free or

1499
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs had a really good last year,

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01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: did a lot of things. Eckler that special skill sets

1501
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: that are special can do a lot of things of versatility,

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: or even the ones that are super human at what

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,879
Speaker 3: they do. Even for those guys who may maintain greatness

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 3: year and in year out, there is not an example

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: of a team that wins it all that way. You've

1506
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: got to go back to sort of Seahawks and then

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: it's way back then. It's like Denver. Yeah, It's just

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Speaker 3: isn't how teams are built anymore. You can't win that way,

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 3: not with these not with the way the league's officiated,

1510
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: not with the play at the quarterback position. You've got

1511
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 3: to be able to your line is the best line

1512
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 3: I've heard on it you've got to throw it when

1513
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 3: they know you're gonna throw it. And if you can't

1514
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 3: do that, you can have all the running backs in

1515
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: the world. You're not winning anything well.

1516
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: And that's why when you think about it, if you're

1517
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: going to pay a running back ten twelve to fifteen

1518
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: million dollars a year, you know, would you rather get

1519
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: eighty percent of that production because maybe don't you can't

1520
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: fully replicate a Derrick Henry. You know, would you rather

1521
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: get eighty percent of that production from a couple of

1522
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: guys and then use that ten million dollars line as

1523
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: in our case to be able to afford as Zadarius Smith.

1524
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: Now we're very lucky. Whi's why we talked about this

1525
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: roster being very complete is that we can have Nick Chubb,

1526
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: Ann's Adarius Smith also to go with my Garrett. But

1527
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: I think most teams would say that ten million dollars

1528
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: is ultimately better spent on a corner, on a pass

1529
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: rusher either in the interior or on the edge, an

1530
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, a wide receiver, a tight end. That's just

1531
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: the reality of the league. And when you're a team

1532
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: that has a monster investment into a quarterback, you have

1533
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 2: to be judicious about where you spend your money. If

1534
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: they want running backs at comm said, honestly, I know

1535
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: you kind of laughed at it, and it's it sounds absurd,

1536
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: but that would be one position where they'd have to

1537
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: come with a formula for how that position counts against

1538
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: the salary cap.

1539
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 5: I was at.

1540
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: What I was smirking at was in this instance, if

1541
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: they want they would be ownership.

1542
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: They don't.

1543
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 3: They don't care. Why would they sure, you know, if.

1544
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: Because they're running backs are stars? I mean, Nick Chubb's

1545
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: the most popular guy on this team.

1546
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 3: There's no question there are some examples where they are stars.

1547
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: There's plenty of examples where they're not correct, where they're anonymous.

1548
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Isaya Potaco rather anonymous correct?

1549
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 3: So like the idea that that's why, you know, like

1550
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: what San Francisco's trying to do with brock Purty, that's

1551
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: why strike with the irons hot with McCaffrey. But they

1552
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: did it the other way previously, where they was anonymous

1553
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: running backs, right, fill them in and make it work.

1554
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: But McCaffrey's got such a specific skill set that for

1555
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 3: them with this quarterback situation, it was their easiest path

1556
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 3: to becoming good, but I don't know if they can

1557
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 3: get over the top with it.

1558
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: And their top two quarterbacks are on rookie deals, Trey

1559
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: Lance and and now they brought Sam Darnold, and who's

1560
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: playing for nothing at this point in his career, so

1561
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: their quarterback salaries are nothing. So they said we can

1562
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: use that on a supreme weapon. And in Atlanta, while

1563
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with it, they're saying our quarterbacks

1564
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: on a rookie deal. You know, Desmond Ritter, let's try

1565
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: to we're zigging while everybody else is zagging. We're gonna

1566
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: play a different style. And Jon Robinson apparently he's gonna

1567
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: line up all over the field and be a slot guy.

1568
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: He's gonna be this, he's gonna be that. Then I'll

1569
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: go back to doing the Super Bowl with CBS, with

1570
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco and with Brian Westbrook. And when we were

1571
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: down there doing some of our shows, and Pete was

1572
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: saying this, that was the Niners Ravens. So that's New Orleans.

1573
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 3: I was there.

1574
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: How long ago is that was that twenty.

1575
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: Thirteen, twelve, something like that, fourteen, maybe somewhere in there.

1576
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: A long time ago is what it was. I think

1577
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: maybe thirteen, Yeah, because it was Yeah, that makes sense.

1578
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 2: Maybe the thirteen two thousand and what ten years ago. Yeah,

1579
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: that's what I think. And he was saying then b

1580
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: West was getting like furious with him obviously as a

1581
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: as a former running back. But what the things that

1582
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: he said I think were directionally correct about the fact

1583
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: that you know, it is a tough it's not the

1584
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: same NFL that it used to be, and there is

1585
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: just an there is an abbondanza, an abundance of talent

1586
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: at that position, and guys who can step in. Elijah

1587
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: Mitchell would come in an average give you a five

1588
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: year Tyler Aljier last year they found him in Atlanta.

1589
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: What fifth round, yep, goes for a thousand yards and

1590
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: five yards of carry? Like, how much better are you

1591
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: gonna get?

1592
01:15:59,520 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 6: Then?

1593
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: Five yards a carry? No Chubbs Nick Chubb's the only

1594
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: person that's in the history of the league that's averaged

1595
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: five yards of carry for five straight years. Jamal Charles

1596
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: I think is still has a slight edge on him

1597
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: as the all time leader in yards per carry, like

1598
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: five point three something. The difference between the best of

1599
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: the best. Yes, you would every team would want to

1600
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: have one of those best of the best running backs,

1601
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: but that does not necessarily equate to wins given the

1602
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: confines of a salary cap. It's just a blind demand.

1603
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: And there's abundance, a ton of good running backs.

1604
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the difference isn't enough is the only thing

1605
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: I've never got an answer to. And we've hypothesized you

1606
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: and I've talked about it before. I do not understand

1607
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: why running backs fall off so quickly now when they

1608
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 3: didn't in the eighties.

1609
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: The only thing I think of is just the only thing.

1610
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: I think it was just just they stack so many

1611
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: more carries throughout their life, like if you have an

1612
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: X amount of carries to have over the course of

1613
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 3: your life.

1614
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: And I think that we're athletes that are tuned to

1615
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: the app sute limits of our body, so that it's

1616
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: two don't grow yet. Why can't pictures pictures us to

1617
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: go out and throw three hundred innings like it was

1618
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: their job. They would throw complete like the guys would

1619
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: go and throw complete game after complete game after complete

1620
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: game after complete game. And now people are on pitch countsy,

1621
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: I gotta get them out of here, you know, it's yeah,

1622
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: And they were probably between starts drinking beers and oh,

1623
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: smoking cigarettes.

1624
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 3: Playing golf and living Yeah, yeah, no, that's I don't know.

1625
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: All right, we will do the positional previews with the

1626
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 3: defensive line coming up next to Clear the Browns Daily

1627
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 3: on eight.

1628
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: Fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1629
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett Coming

1630
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1631
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: I broke it down yesterday. All right, wait, hold on, nope.

1632
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: All right, what do you what do you think that

1633
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: that little table is?

1634
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: I think yesterday I made the I made the distinction.

1635
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 3: I believe it to be an outdoor table. I think

1636
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: it's like for like if I think it's an indoor

1637
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: outdoor but I think it's I think it's one that

1638
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 3: would be you could put outside on a on a.

1639
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: It needs to be in the center of what I

1640
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: would call like maybe a couple of low sofas or

1641
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: one low sofa and two lounge chairs.

1642
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like lounge chairs or something like for lounge chairs

1643
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 3: around it. Not recliners, no, no, no, no, just like

1644
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,919
Speaker 3: a yeah, yeah, put your feet up on it.

1645
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Because a Monica earlier came by and sat on the

1646
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: ground and put her drink on it. To like sit there.

1647
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: I think she's making it a job as a joke out,

1648
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: but I don't I don't know what's that. There's a

1649
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he feels like a stock that

1650
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: if you could have gotten into the ground floor, you're

1651
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: going to be very pleased in the future. The dom

1652
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: is trading tech stock in ninety eight, multiple multiples of domer.

1653
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so talent, there's so much, such a great product,

1654
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: too mutually relakable, but all of it kicks, all of it.

1655
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: I like it all right, let's do defensive tackles position preview. Uh,

1656
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 3: before you get into the specifics of it, Doctor Z,

1657
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 3: is there are Is it true?

1658
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: You?

1659
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: Are you okay with this? I talked about this yesterday

1660
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 3: with ap Potentially another running back would come into this

1661
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: operation at some point if if it doesn't go as

1662
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 3: well as you wanted to go Ford.

1663
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: I said this on serious this morning, Jerome Ford. It

1664
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: is his job to lose, right, Yes, everybody would be

1665
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: very pleased if we go. He just went and he's

1666
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: good and he can show that he can be a

1667
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: third down back. Spell Nick Chubb handle himself and pass. Probably,

1668
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: I think everybody'd be very happy with that.

1669
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: And then this position defensive tackle, if there is a

1670
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: veteran potential, I don't think you'd need anything. You'd love

1671
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: for it to just go as it is. But potentially

1672
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: this position, other than that, I don't think there's anything else.

1673
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all luxury.

1674
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: Yes and no. Here's what I would say. I'm gonna

1675
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: throw a one statement out at you and tell me

1676
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: if you agree or disagree. Right, the only proven commodity

1677
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: in this room is Dalvin Tomlinson. Yeah, okay, and then

1678
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: we have a lot of potential. Jordan Elliott is a

1679
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: guy that has felt like he's been on the verge

1680
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: of breaking out for a few years. Jim Schwartz is

1681
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: very enamored with him. They think that this scheme, instead

1682
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: of him having responsive was allowing to just attack, is

1683
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 2: going to really suit him. Maurice Hurst is a guy

1684
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: out a Michigan who's had a lot of potential and

1685
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: has been very productive when on the field, but it's

1686
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: basically miss the last two full seasons with injury. Siaki

1687
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: Eka third round pick, rookie season, huge body, but obviously

1688
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: this is potentially he's an unknown commodity in the National

1689
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: Football League. Tristan Hill former second round pick has bounced

1690
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: around the league, so there's potential that on some level

1691
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: has been unrealized. Right second round picks, a defensive tackle

1692
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: would ideally be in one place. Perryon Winfrey incredible potential,

1693
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: and we saw the ability in games last year, who

1694
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: would have had multiple sacks over the second half of

1695
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: the season, could become a devastating pass rusher. But Perryon's

1696
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: gotta want it, and Perion's got to be willing to

1697
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: sacrifice some of the things that you need to make

1698
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: this your lifestyle, to make it the most important thing

1699
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: in the world to you to be dominant at football.

1700
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: And if he does that, Peyon Winfrey very much could

1701
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: be a stud. TOGYI third season. I think he's fighting

1702
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: to make this roster quite frankly, Michael dwemfour again, another

1703
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: guy's kind of bounced around the league, had some solid

1704
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: stint with the forty nine ers. He's fighting to make

1705
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: this roster. I think Jordan Elliott with his contractory structure,

1706
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: Dalvin Thomins, and Siakik are all one hundred percent locks.

1707
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: Perryon Winfrey, in my mind, is a ninety nine point

1708
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: nine percent lock, the one percent being something wild happens

1709
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: where he is unable to play.

1710
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 3: It's possible that the thing that I talked about might

1711
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:09,879
Speaker 3: already be here.

1712
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: Maurice Hurst, And it could be he's got to be healthy.

1713
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: But the name that would be make the most sense

1714
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: that's out there's indominicanc.

1715
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 3: Sure sure knows.

1716
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz, Yeah, very well, very well would be in

1717
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: a rotation where he would be very fresh and could

1718
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: give you probably a lot. My guess is something within

1719
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: domicance two doesn't happen for any team until into the season,

1720
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 2: because that's when he knows he's he's coming back to

1721
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: go for a ring, is my guess. If we're a

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01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 2: team of consequence at that point, and we all certainly

1723
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: hope and believe that we will be. The Browns had

1724
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: four defensive tackles last year. I could see them carrying five.

1725
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: I think we could have ten defensive linemen on this team.

1726
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: So there is that fifth spot that could be a

1727
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: Maurice Hurst, but I really think it's likely it's it's

1728
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 2: Dalvin Jordan Perry on Siaki Eka Maurice Hurst. You know,

1729
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: maybe as a guy that is practiced, squadded and is

1730
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: able to be there, but That's the way that I

1731
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: see it. These guys are going to battle when the

1732
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 2: pitt Pads come on. This is going to be the thing.

1733
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, perry On is probably maybe

1734
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: even the most talented guy there. Dalvin Thomas Wou'd be

1735
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: hard to argue against him is number one, but Parim

1736
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: from a talent standpoint might be there. So this is

1737
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: a position that there still are maybe some questions here

1738
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: at this position because you have one proven commody, but

1739
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: you have a lot of talent. And I think that

1740
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 2: you know, Jim Schwartz obviously was broad here Ben Bloom

1741
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 2: taking over the defense line to get the most out

1742
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 2: of that talent. And and we'll start to see that,

1743
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: I think when the pads come on, you know in

1744
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: West Virginia and then throughout the preseason. Remember four preseason games. Yeah,

1745
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: you're not going to see a lot of Dalvin Tomlins

1746
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 2: in the preseason. You're going to see a lot of

1747
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: everybody else. Oh and you have a chance, if you're

1748
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: a Maurice Hurst, to really separate perry On, to really

1749
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: show how much you've grown and what your talent is.

1750
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: And we've seen how hard he's been working this offseason

1751
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: you know Siaki Eka, see how he transitions here into

1752
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: the National Football League. So I think that those four games,

1753
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: this is a room where maybe though those four games

1754
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: are going to help kind of tell a tale. I'll

1755
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: go back to when we had Malik McDowell, the way

1756
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 2: that he dominated and ragged all third stringers in the preseason.

1757
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, this guy's this guy's a real dude.

1758
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: And they made up starting Week one against the Chiefs.

1759
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know in those games and you know in

1760
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: those joint practices, those are the two times. Well, let's

1761
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 3: do the defensive ends while we're here and knock the

1762
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: defensive line positional preview out of the mix. Obviously, this

1763
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: one is really good at the top. It's three deep,

1764
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: maybe more. You mentioned the number game though, and it

1765
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: does get interesting here as well.

1766
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: Miles z Darius, Obo, Kuranko, and Alex Ryder all making

1767
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 2: this team that's four, we're going to carry five maybe

1768
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: six YEP is the reality of it. Isaiah Maguire, obviously

1769
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: you drafted him this year. They like him very much.

1770
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 2: And then Isaiah Thomas, the to isaiahs who has developed,

1771
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 2: he just is productive. Had a sack last year sack

1772
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow on that Monday night game, recovered a fumble

1773
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 2: the very next week in Baltimore. Will they try to

1774
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: slide maybe Isaiah to to the practice squad given that

1775
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,839
Speaker 2: he was a seventh round pick the year before, that's possible,

1776
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,879
Speaker 2: But boy, can you have ten? Can you have eleven dbs?

1777
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: Because our defensive lineman, let's say you had ten defensive linemen,

1778
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna have at least six linebackers. That's sixteen, and

1779
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: then I think you have ten dbs. So I think

1780
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: you and the splits we kept coming up with with

1781
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty four, Yeah, that's where you could be.

1782
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: But can you have eleven defensive lineman? I don't think so.

1783
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Feels yeah no, And it feels like maybe on the

1784
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: offensive line you can get away with nine because you

1785
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: could have your two tackles, the backup center and then

1786
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: a backup guard, and then you have a lot of

1787
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 2: guys you probably can keep on your practice squad, keep here,

1788
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: and with the new rules, their ability to go up,

1789
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: you know, multiple times a season, you'd be in pretty

1790
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: good shape there. And of course there's always gonna unfortunately,

1791
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna be injuries from what we may think the

1792
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: fifty three is right now.

1793
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm under no, I'm not gonna oversell this, but I

1794
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 3: mean we saw last year when Philly came to town.

1795
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: We weren't there. Yeah, it was.

1796
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 3: It was abundantly clear week that we weren't there. That

1797
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: week will tell if you've done enough. It feels like

1798
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: you have, you've done about all you can do. You've

1799
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 3: got free agency, you've drafted, you've done all of the things.

1800
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,839
Speaker 3: Did you check the correct boxes? You'll find out in Philly.

1801
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: That's when you'll have an idea pretty good lead on

1802
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: what you are because they bullied us last year here yea,

1803
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 3: And look they're the best two fronts in the league.

1804
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 3: They're apex, so you're not getting better than what they do.

1805
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 3: The question is are you can you be respectable against

1806
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: them on the two lines of scrimmage? And if you can,

1807
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: then you got then you're onto something.

1808
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: And it correct me if I'm wrong. But by that

1809
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: point when we did play Philly, Jacobe was taking all

1810
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: the that's the transition.

1811
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 3: It kind of happened, didn't that happen while they were here?

1812
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: It was like that week because it was that was

1813
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: our second preseason game and it was after the Jacksonville game.

1814
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: That was it, Like Jashaun may appearance in jackson and

1815
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: then that was it. It was Jacobe seen from that

1816
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 2: point forward. Yeah, so we haven't seen DeShawn against them.

1817
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Yeah, I was trying to remember the chronology.

1818
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: It's a great test for our for our secondary against

1819
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: their excellent pass cashers. It's gonna be a great test

1820
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: for the lines, and the interior of their line is elite.

1821
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: I think they did the guard. Isaac Simuala went to

1822
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers, so he won't be there, but you know

1823
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna get full work. We heard Lane Johnson was

1824
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: in the top ten tackles. They're both of their guys

1825
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: were talking five and six. So for Miles and Zadarius

1826
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: and Obo like that's gonna be that's good work. So

1827
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna get really good work there. And if we

1828
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: come out of that feeling like, Okay, we're at this level,

1829
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: that's what you want to feel like, because then you

1830
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: know that we are what we think we are.

1831
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't, if you, I think you've checked.

1832
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: I think you did every I think Andrew Barry did

1833
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 3: everything he could do at his power save potentially adding

1834
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: in Dominican Sue, but that's not of his own choosing.

1835
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 3: That would be just of a Dominican Siou's choosing. If

1836
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 3: he chooses to play football or chooses to play here,

1837
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 3: he can play footba wherever he wants.

1838
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's.

1839
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 3: About the only other thing you could do. You've checked

1840
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: every other box that can be checked. Yes, So it's

1841
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: just a matter of do all of the guys played

1842
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: the potential together in Schwartz's system at a level that

1843
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 3: gets you in the vicinity of what Philly is. And

1844
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: if you are, you don't have to go toe to

1845
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: toe with them and beat them.

1846
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.

1847
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 3: That's not required, but you've got to be not bullied.

1848
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: Last year I kind of felt like we were. We

1849
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: played them, everybody was, as it turned out. That's when

1850
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: we realized, oh, the only thing when we got done

1851
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: with that week, I'll never forget this. Sirianni was having

1852
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: oppressor and we said everything else, it's just can Jalen

1853
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 3: Hurts go?

1854
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what that was the consensus. But what

1855
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: we don't want to have is when we were kind

1856
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 2: of feeling pretty good coming off of the twenty fourteen

1857
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: season and you go up to Buffalo twenty fifteen joint

1858
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: practices and you're like, we just got whooped, you know then? Yeah,

1859
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: so that's going to be That'll be a very telling week.

1860
01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much more to come.

1861
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: You listen to Clear the Runs Daily on a fifty

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Speaker 3: M Hm, Big night tonight, uh for Zago his former

1866
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 3: favorite show, Justified. They're launching a new series tonight. Say

1867
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Speaker 3: a lot of the same people. Rayland Gibbons is back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1869
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: Was it this Zago show?

1870
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Speaker 2: Justified?

1871
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: Oh?

1872
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: God loved it. Yeah. Tim of the oliphantse and making.

1873
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: The round back back that's doing it.

1874
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1875
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 3: And he was Sheriff Seth Bullock in Deadwood.

1876
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, two of my favorites. Have you gotten through quarterback?

1877
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 2: Have you gone through the whole thing yet?

1878
01:29:59,200 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 7: No?

1879
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I think that's going

1880
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: to be part of my Greenbrier experience. Yeah.

1881
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm not there. I told you I'm not there with

1882
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 3: football yet. Well we are that with the timing on

1883
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 3: that was amazing. I'm not there with football yet.

1884
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 5: The new music.

1885
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like it it's like a good job

1886
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: out of policy and we are very good and we

1887
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: are that's true.

1888
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 3: You'll it will hit you like Saturday. Then you'll be okay,

1889
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 3: I'm all in and it's gonna it'll be the following

1890
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 3: week probably for me. Yeah, it just seems early.

1891
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it is. It is early.

1892
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's early, earlyer than normal. The next level is

1893
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: coming up next. We are back tomorrow. Thanks for listening,

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