WEBVTT -  Health, Maintenance Required: “I didn’t think I’d live past 40.”

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're younger, you feel like you're intensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're not the only Gemini in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not the only one who makes.

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<v Speaker 3>Lift from just beyond the lights of Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 3>Steamye Palm Springs, California. It's Mick Robert Bill just say,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is still lighting with the old days.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, kids. It has been said that with age

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<v Speaker 1>comes wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>And joint pain. Don't forget the joint pain.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Eliah said it best. Age ain't nothing but

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<v Speaker 3>a number.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here to talk health, aging and taking care of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And how we're still turning heads wherever we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, boys, let's dive right in. What does the concept

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<v Speaker 4>of health mean to you these days? How has it

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<v Speaker 4>changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for me, I think about health a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>more than I did when I was in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even pay attention to my doctor's advice often. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in my twenties, the only doctors that

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<v Speaker 2>I remember going to were my dentist and my eye doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>But today I have annual visits with my retina specialist,

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<v Speaker 2>my vascular specialist, a dermatologist, my psychiatry, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>two physicals a year, and since I was fifty years old,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had five cholonostopes, and I also do yoga.

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<v Speaker 3>Well babies, Boy, that's a mouthful for real. All we

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<v Speaker 3>do is spend our lives at doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's almost as taking medications.

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<v Speaker 3>Our doctors point it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well when we're trying to get together, it's turning out

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<v Speaker 4>to be a real hassle because the doctor's appointments just

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<v Speaker 4>pop up.

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<v Speaker 3>Everywhere, and they do come first, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>They do, because it's hard to get an appointment with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of doctors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I looked up the word health and this is

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<v Speaker 1>based on Who's definition. Health is a state of complete physical, medical,

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<v Speaker 1>and social well being beyond the absence of disease and infirmity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the things I wish I measured

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<v Speaker 1>for self sufficiency is whether I can clean my bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>and wash the dishes, shower and dress myself and make dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I have been taught is establish a baseline

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<v Speaker 1>by which we can measure what is improvement from what

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<v Speaker 1>is a stable state, and that that transition into thriving.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you pursue that success. You have a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Bob often talks about having a passion for

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<v Speaker 1>his work and also general feelings of wellbeing. Bill likes

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about his yoga in between his colonosopes.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and I think we've all managed to incorporate our

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<v Speaker 2>different healthcare routines into our lives in a white that

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<v Speaker 2>enabled us to all pursue our own individual interests.

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<v Speaker 4>I take particular attention now to when I go get

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<v Speaker 4>a physical I read all of the things that they

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<v Speaker 4>have and now I take my chart very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's pretty clear from all of our

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<v Speaker 2>conversations that we're much more conscious about our health than

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<v Speaker 2>we were when we were younger and infallible. But I

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<v Speaker 2>know that for me, I have tried to incorporate activity

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<v Speaker 2>very purposely into my life, and most recently, something I

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<v Speaker 2>think that is terribly important is massage. I get a

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<v Speaker 2>massage every week now, and I talk to the massage

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<v Speaker 2>therapist about what he is doing in terms of breaking

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<v Speaker 2>up the granules that accumulate in your body in different

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<v Speaker 2>places due to the stresses that you face, and how

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<v Speaker 2>he moves it through my body, and I could just

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<v Speaker 2>feel the bad stuff oozing out of my body.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I have the same experienced training, Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's so addictive for me. Also the little endorphins.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great rush in a high, and I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>that at times when life is really hard and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle, you know that you can put yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>a position of discipline and strength and to actually accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>something in like an hour. That has been my rock.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from the perspective of somebody who has been

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<v Speaker 1>lifting weight since he was fifteen years old, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine now, and so it's a way for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get through many, many, many trying days even now.

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<v Speaker 2>And another thing that I have become very conscious of

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<v Speaker 2>in my older years is how important sleep is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because if I don't have a good night's sleep,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to have a good next day, that's

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<v Speaker 4>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And looking back on my younger days, when a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the time I get filed three or four hours

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<v Speaker 2>of sleep because I was out partying the night before

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to get to work early the next day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see.

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<v Speaker 4>How I did it, or no sleep at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Our younger listeners are laughing and thinking, oh fun, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I have to look forward to sleep, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like I knew guys when I first came out.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to go to New York and party for

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours straight. Dang, and then come home to

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<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis and crash for the rest of the week for real. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the week, for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the week.

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<v Speaker 3>See. I always wanted to do that when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would fall asleep. I'm not an all night

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<v Speaker 3>person except on vacations and cruises. And I'm a walker.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually walk, even in this weather, twice a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. I get out at ten o'clock at night

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<v Speaker 3>and then at six in the morning or six thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I go back to pied.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're already into daily maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, okay, go ahead, Meg with your daily maintenance.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the daily habit that you swear by now you

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<v Speaker 1>never cared about when you were younger.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, one of the things that I find very

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<v Speaker 2>calming that will bring chaos to a controlled state is

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<v Speaker 2>making lists. Makes fun of me and accuses me of

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<v Speaker 2>being a Gemini about my list, But I truly keep

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<v Speaker 2>on my computer a spreadsheet of my master to do lists,

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<v Speaker 2>which is grouped by major categories and the interrupt activities

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do relative to each one listed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love striking them out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not the only Gemini in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not the only one who makes lists. I

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<v Speaker 1>make lists too, but they're not as complex as yours.

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<v Speaker 4>My father one of the best lessons he taught me

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<v Speaker 4>was at the beginning of the day, right down the

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<v Speaker 4>six most important things you have to do, and as

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<v Speaker 4>you cross them off, you add them the things that

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<v Speaker 4>you hadn't done to the next day, so that nothing

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<v Speaker 4>ever gets overlooked.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do that. Okay, that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we call piling it on. Before you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a list like that's ten pages long, and

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<v Speaker 1>you go say yourself, oh my gosh, what where should

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<v Speaker 1>I start?

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<v Speaker 2>I know? And some of my to do activities are

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<v Speaker 2>like paint the.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a specific task, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and it goes on for more than.

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<v Speaker 3>Just that hour was six days ago in the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>We could move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Robert, what's the most ridiculous health or beauty product

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever tried? And this would have to be going

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<v Speaker 2>back to the nineteen eighties when I was in my

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<v Speaker 2>early forties and my hair began to thin, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to stop that, and so I tried all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of hair restoration products.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it didn't work back then, I don't know are

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<v Speaker 2>they working today.

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<v Speaker 1>I used an oxidal and yeah, it's thicking my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I went through a trial with monoxidil back in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>and I used to go to the doctor. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it was about once every two weeks. I would go

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd take a little eye dropper and he'd drop

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff on my head and rub it in, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he'd peer with a little eyeglass looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Any hair following the hair growth.

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<v Speaker 2>They had yet discovered the right formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, because I'm starting to show and

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<v Speaker 1>it's thickening.

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<v Speaker 3>It losing my hair. It was humbling. And the day

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<v Speaker 3>I took everything off in it, it was freedom. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the most ridiculous product that I had ever used

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<v Speaker 4>was in the late sixties. They came out with this

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<v Speaker 4>self tanning gels and the first one of them that

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<v Speaker 4>I tried, and it was one of the best, was

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<v Speaker 4>called Bragi b r a gg I, And the only

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<v Speaker 4>problem was yes, you looked great with yourself tan, but

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<v Speaker 4>you look at your hands and they're completely orange. You

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<v Speaker 4>can tell when anyone used was using this tanning product.

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<v Speaker 3>And one person still uses it. I guessed nowadays, who's

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<v Speaker 3>that orange?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, he uses Cheetos.

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<v Speaker 2>In a powdered form.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he mashes him. He has someone mash him up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, moving right it off. What are some of

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest revelations you've had around getting older, especially as

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<v Speaker 3>a gay man. I haven't been phased. I'm just me

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<v Speaker 3>who happens to be a gay man. That's a small

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<v Speaker 3>part of who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking for myself, I find the older I get,

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<v Speaker 2>the greater are my ED problems, which is unfortunate but true,

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<v Speaker 2>And so you have to find other ways of substituting

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<v Speaker 2>for that. And I think probably this also relates back

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<v Speaker 2>to ridiculous medical treatments that we've tried over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know I have tried many different online supplement combinations,

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<v Speaker 2>matters supposed secure ED.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people who aren't just gay, but

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<v Speaker 1>especially as a gay man, as the older you get,

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<v Speaker 1>the more invisible you become, you know, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>other cultures such as in Japan, where as you got older,

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<v Speaker 1>you became more venerated. I mean in Japan they have

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<v Speaker 1>eighty year old porn stars. Okay, so this is a

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<v Speaker 1>culture that is completely different, and their concept of beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, religion and the soul, all of those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of concepts play into a very different kind of

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<v Speaker 1>society and very different values.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think ours are changing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes I do, because there is a niche I

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<v Speaker 1>have found, or I should say they have found me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of younger men.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally concurred that was going to be my thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's total revelation to me now that we're not just

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<v Speaker 4>old men were attracted by young and middle aged men,

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<v Speaker 4>which is really a big surprise to me. Although I

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<v Speaker 4>really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very flattering, you know, because I guess because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember myself in my twenties, you would take a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>oh forty, Oh that's death.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I thought. I thought eighteen was dead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've thought forty was. When I was young. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't think i'd live beyond forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, Yeah, I mean, because I counted the years

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<v Speaker 1>of forty, it'll be two thousand and six when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in I thought, you know, it's nineteen sixty eight or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and you're thinking, I can't imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>that world is going to be like.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so different than I mean nice, I see

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<v Speaker 3>it differently than I look at it compared to mom

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<v Speaker 3>and dad days and how they seemed old. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess it's the weather that keeps us. It helps you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're truly blessed to have sunshine, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>places don't have it, thus causing you to go inside

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<v Speaker 3>and sit in your house and people forget you. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm scared of. I don't want to be forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>I never want to be forgotten, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to forget people. That is so important to make us

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<v Speaker 3>who we are and how we live, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a part of health. It is who we surround

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves with in terms of social structure and the interactions

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<v Speaker 2>we have. If we have positive interactions with the people

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<v Speaker 2>that are around us, I think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>healthier for it. But if we are constantly doing bad

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<v Speaker 2>with people, it got to have a detrimental effect on

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<v Speaker 2>who you are in your health. Okay, I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>very strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool okay, in that same vein what is something you

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<v Speaker 1>see completely differently than you used to A perspective shift

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<v Speaker 1>that can only come with age.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, I mean, when I was younger, in middle age,

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<v Speaker 4>sex was everything, and now it doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 4>quite as important and urged that it used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I enjoy it less, but it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have that drive that I used to have for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest changes that I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>through from my young self to who I am now

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<v Speaker 2>is when you're younger, you feel like you're invinsive, and

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<v Speaker 2>over the years you find out that they had hang true,

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<v Speaker 2>that there are a lot of things that can get

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<v Speaker 2>you down and you just have to be on guard

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<v Speaker 2>for them and educate yourself so you know how to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, what is different is my definition

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<v Speaker 1>of what is love. I used to think of love

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<v Speaker 1>only in a physical sense, and I began to question

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to love and you know, who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be deserving of your love and who you deserve,

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<v Speaker 1>and those things kind of change. And I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's from living and learning, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you have to be mentally strong inside. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things all of us share in common,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's really this strong pillar that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>anchors us. You know, there are so many people in

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<v Speaker 1>life who go very fractured lives and due to circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>beyond their control, or you know that you just don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>or because your parents didn't raise you very well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of what it comes down to. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about it, but that's the kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you do when you're on the couch. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your family, You talk about your parents and

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<v Speaker 1>how much you have been programmed in that early time

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, and that you know it may have

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<v Speaker 1>set you up for making a lot of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing that I've missed that I hear

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<v Speaker 2>other people talk about as being part of their lives

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<v Speaker 2>is I've never had the experience of talking to someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is psycho analyzing me consciously as a doctor patient relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So but you know, I hear you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>you guys talk about your experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>It used to be an embarrassing thing to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the doctors and like place, everybody's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It yeah, you didn't talk about it right.

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<v Speaker 3>How was your measure of life quality and happiness changed

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<v Speaker 3>over time? It's gotten better for me, and it's all

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<v Speaker 3>because of the Old Gays. It really is. Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say the same thing because I moved

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<v Speaker 4>to Palm Springs in two thousand and three and I

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<v Speaker 4>moved into senior housing, and I was sort of just

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<v Speaker 4>there for like ten years. But then the Old Gays

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<v Speaker 4>happened and my entire life turned around. I was happy

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<v Speaker 4>as can be, and I enjoyed what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I never thought that I would come back that well.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you old Thank you God, thank you young day.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm gonna cross kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be right back after a quick break.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to silver Lines with the old Gays.

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<v Speaker 4>What's something that feels completely different in your body now

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<v Speaker 4>compared to when you were younger?

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<v Speaker 3>My butt, because it is last.

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<v Speaker 4>Lord, mine is my anxiety. And I have a very

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<v Speaker 4>difficult time controlling my anxiety. And I've taken quite a

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<v Speaker 4>few different medications. I've tried some on an as needed basis,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them where you take it in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>you take it in the evening, and somehow it just

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work. For me, and when it does work for me,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's really a good one, I just fall asleep

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the only way that I can control it.

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<v Speaker 4>But my anxiety is something that has really really increased

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<v Speaker 4>as I'm aging. But that's why I think it's very,

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<v Speaker 4>very important that everyone realized that you are in control

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<v Speaker 4>of your life and your health and your doctors. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that is a very very important thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think about you know, how the four of

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<v Speaker 1>us I've learned to deal not only with our own

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<v Speaker 1>particular diagnoses, but also how you negotiate the medical system

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<v Speaker 1>in the mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to encounter nurses and doctors in which you

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<v Speaker 1>like our sympatico with and then there are some that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like two ships passing in the night, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you really have to just go with the flow.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you disagree with the doctor exactly exactly, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you disagree, you go around and you try to

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<v Speaker 2>find an alternative way to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be in control, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the other thing about well I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>have to get a second opinion, okay, and then bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to be very firm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, time for health tips. Can each of us

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<v Speaker 3>come up with one or two health tips or health

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<v Speaker 3>wisdoms that we can offer our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of one. Your mind has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of power over your body, and it's a tool you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to learn how to use, but it is there

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<v Speaker 2>and it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Very self healing.

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<v Speaker 4>And my tip would be to anyone who isn't feeling

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<v Speaker 4>well not to ignore it. But there are so many

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<v Speaker 4>places like urgent care that you can just drop in

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<v Speaker 4>and find out what's going on with you. Don't procrastinate

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<v Speaker 4>it when you're feeling bad. Take action health tip floss

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<v Speaker 4>every day. That's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unpreventative because bacteria can form in your mouth and

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<v Speaker 1>if you start swallowing that down and gets into your gut,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's still a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mom told me keep moving because when you stop

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you won't get to start again. Good advice.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the big question, what is your silver lining

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<v Speaker 4>to aging? Navigating health and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Body, social security?

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<v Speaker 1>Two things Medicare and the old gays. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>old Gays helped to change my life, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing about being alive. Really and experiencing that because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was five years ago where I almost

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it, and that's saying something.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the unexpected things with growing older that's

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<v Speaker 4>happened to me is I try to be more compassionate

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<v Speaker 4>about people and not being as critical, you know, of everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>because everyone has their own problems. And I believe that

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<v Speaker 4>being critical of people only takes negative energy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's the benefit of growing older,

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<v Speaker 2>accumulating knowledge and perspected and being able to understand people's issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I would add built when you say you're

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<v Speaker 1>less critical of people, yeah, yeah, you're more compassionate, that's

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<v Speaker 1>because you're less critical of yourself and that you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>to let go. So therapy helps.

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<v Speaker 3>That is three hundred dollars, give it to him, charge it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a wrap for today. Silver Linings is a production

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<v Speaker 4>of Iheart's Ruby Studios and The Outspoken Network. We're your

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<v Speaker 4>hosts Bill Lyons, Robert Breeves.

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<v Speaker 3>Mick Peterson, and Jesse Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>Our executive producer is Sierra Kaiser. The episode was written

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<v Speaker 4>by Ryan Amador, with post production by Eric Zeiler. Our

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<v Speaker 4>theme music was composed by MaTx Heirschanau, with audio direction

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<v Speaker 4>and design by Matt Stillo. And if you're having fun

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a greedy little pant.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it a battle cry on that Dick

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<v Speaker 4>I came out of the womb gay