1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Lisa Lampanelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: She is a meddling advice giving yanta. I know it all, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: and her words come from her head, her heart, and 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: often out of her ass. This podcast should not be 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: grain of salt for entertainment purposes only. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: These You need help, You're the problems. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Come on, come down, go leam, take a pill. I 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: think you're insane. 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Do what I say, dumb ass, listen to me. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: You what the Lisa? 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 5: I get out? 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome back. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: Don't drink this. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: I like a long pause too. It's Lisa Lampanelli here, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: your friend, your fae, your ally, and your advocate, which 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: is four things. I clearly am not doing a podcast 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: with my buddy, my pal, my friend in titified unity. Next, gope, 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Eddy say. 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 5: I Nick, what's up? 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 4: Stop it be back? Microphone right here, baby, Thank you. 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: For holding the mic correctly. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 6: Neck. 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Where can everybody find you on social media? 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: You could follow me at Nick Scopes on Instagram and 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 5: TikTok and because. 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: Because what you do, you do? And we are also 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: here for the third time and hopefully the last, according 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: to her, because she hates us with our kind of 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: filling producer bitch, the half Irish quarter porter Ricken quarter ighty, 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Stepanie Lane, which, by the way, Lane, that is a 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: very non descript last name. What was your father's Irish 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: name from years agober Ferry comes over to the continent 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: of the potatoes. 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 6: I don't know, but my grandma was prot. 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: Okay, literally adding nothing. I'm used to it because we 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: have Celia who adds nothing. Celia will be back if 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: she ever recovers from hating us. 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: You will, won't. 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get enough head drinking to see if 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: I want to go back to those two. 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: Remember when she said her therapist listen to the podcast. 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't love the word. 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 6: You. 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: Well listen. That's what's good having Stephanie because she's too 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: emotionally unavailable to have a therapist, so she doesn't have 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: anybody to talk shit about us too. 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: You're higher, yeah, So just leave us. 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: There and follow Stephanie ad In on Instagram at I'm 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: gonna say it s T E p H L A 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: and that's two e's and an underscore, Oh, the underscore, 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: the bane of my existence. And you can follow me 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: at Lisa Lambinelli. Listen, Nick, you know do you you 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: see the musical chorus line and you have two things 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: that keep you from seeing a chorus line. They're called testicles. Well, 56 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: chorus line at a very famous number, and it began, 57 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: I shall sing it for you. Who am I anyway 58 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: upon my resume? Just a picture of a person? 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 6: No. 60 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: I recently heard that song because I'm gay for that, 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: and I was like, that question of who am I 62 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: haunts people. It's almost like if people don't have an identity, 63 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: they feel they are nothing. I'm coming to believe the 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: actual opposite is true. By not having one identity, we 65 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: are more of a human being. So here's what happened 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: eight years ago. I retire. I'm like, whoa, I'm not 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: a comic anymore. But wait, I'll quickly replace it with 68 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: another identity. I will be bump bump bomb, a life coach, 69 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: which is what every loser over forty who had a 70 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: divorce and I'm talking women decides to be because they 71 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: can't help themselves, so they decide to help other people badly. 72 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: So let me take a big, long course and figure 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: out how to help the great unfortunate masses who can 74 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: afford me. Well, that quickly blew up because I just 75 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: wanted everybody to do exactly what I said and not 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: pay attention to how I live. They're like, oh, no, 77 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: what do I do now? Oh? I know, I can 78 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: just craft. That's it. 79 00:04:58,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: I'll craft. 80 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: I have lots of crafting supplies. I have painting supplies 81 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: for my father. I'm going to be a crafter and 82 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: a painter. And guess what we realize two months later 83 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: she has no talent for crafting, no patience, She can't 84 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: fucking needle point to save her life, and she certainly 85 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: can't paint like dad. So I'm not a painter? What 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: am I? I go through the next six years trying 87 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: on all these different identities until finally it dawns on me, 88 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh wait, I don't have to be anything. I can 89 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: just do things, have fun, live a life that kind 90 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: of maybe is directionless other than working on myself, and 91 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: no identity really matters. But I think in society we're 92 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: so used to oh what do you do for a living, 93 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: or oh, so, what's your thing? We always have to 94 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: come up with a thing and scare up an identity. 95 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 5: Have you had this experience, Nick Listen, I've been pretty 96 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 5: consistently perfied. No, definitely have had it. When I was little. 97 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: I don't know what the identity was, to be honest, 98 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: I was more of a goofball, I would say high school. 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 5: It was definitely like football, lifting weights, college similar it 100 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: was just like lifting weights and powerlifting slash bodybuilding. That 101 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 5: I competed in bodybuilding, So that was I did one 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 5: show and I was like, oh boy, I think I 103 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: could ever do that again? And yeah, I guess like 104 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: an identity of like I would say that the only 105 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: time I really had like a stroke of like, I 106 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 5: don't know what the fuck I am anymore? Is I was? 107 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 5: I've always been a trainer. I I was a trainer 108 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: for a while, and then at one point in my 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: mid twenties, I took a sales job and a completely 110 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: different industry. I did that for a while I was 111 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: still training, but after that didn't work out me getting 112 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: back into training, I felt so lost and like I 113 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: didn't know who I was, even though I had already 114 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 5: been doing this for four years. I think it was 115 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: just like the defeat quote unquote, not even a defeat, 116 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 5: the the sales job not working out made me. It 117 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 5: ruined my confidence, if anything, right, And so I kind 118 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: of was like, but I used to do bodybuilding and 119 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: I used to do this, and I was like holding 120 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: on to these things. I realized as I got older, 121 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: like I was like, but I used to do this 122 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: and I used to do that, and now it's like 123 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: I don't even really care about any of that. And 124 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 5: I'm similar to where you're at, where it's like, yeah, 125 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: I just want my wife to be like good and 126 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: fun and like, yeah, you know, there's things I want 127 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: to improve on, but but no, yeah, I don't get 128 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: caught up in that. That time was probably like my 129 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: mid to late twenties was the time where I was 130 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: just like, who, what the fuck is mone am I doing? 131 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: What's the point? Oh? I was? I thought I want 132 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 5: to go back to school. 133 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. That's the classic Whenever you feel 134 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: a lack of identity and you're an unhealthy place, you 135 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: either want to go back to for a master's or 136 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: become a life coach. Those both are real red flags, 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: and it's like, no, you just kind of have to 138 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: sit with the discomfort of not knowing who you are, 139 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: and yeah, you may eventually decide to do those two 140 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: things or one of them. Our friend Andrew has a 141 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: client who I think she's eighty and just went back 142 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: to Yale for Divinity Masters. And that's just purely out 143 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: of love of the learning of it and the love 144 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: of that subject matter. So I love when we do 145 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: things just because it arises up in us. But isn't like, 146 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: ooh good Now, I could go around and say I'm this, 147 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm an actor, I'm a comic. I'm like, for so 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: many years I didn't even identify as a stand up comic. 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: It was an insult comic. I wanted to be so 150 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: specifically different that I'm like, yeah, there's like three of us, Like, 151 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: I'm not just a stand up but it's just like me, 152 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: Jeff Ross and Don Rickles, and Rickles is dead. 153 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: So it's just us. 154 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: So it's just like, Wow, you really need an identity bad. 155 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: So I think the more solid we are as people 156 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: and humans, the less we need to identify as something like. 157 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: It's always that thing with men. I feel too. In 158 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: the old days, it was always men who had to 159 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: have like the job who You'd be at a dinner 160 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: party and be like, so what weren't so what firm. 161 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Are you with Mac? And you'd be like, well, I'm 162 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: with like p W and kunt or whatever the thing's called. 163 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Like you know, it's always just like I'm with Colgate 164 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Paul Malliv and I work on the ad campaigns for 165 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: the new toothpaste. Like so, men often were asked to 166 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: like lead more with like your identity better be about worker, 167 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: you're not a good provider. Women a little less. They 168 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: had it be like I'm a mom, Like there's no 169 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: one more annoying as the one who identifies primarily as 170 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: the mom, because you know, those kids are eating fucking healthy. 171 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: She kept them from sugar till they were five, and 172 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: they accidentally at school finally had a cupcake and they 173 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: freaked the fuck out and now they're four hundred pounds. 174 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: But stop giving your kidne eating disorder. So there's like 175 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: the mom or I'm the this, and I'm the I'm 176 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: the emo kid, I'm the like whatever you identify as, 177 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: maybe look at them go but what else am I? 178 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: It might be worth like looking if there is more 179 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: depth than scope to who you are other than your 180 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: job or your identity. 181 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have stuff, I would say, 182 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: outside of certain things, like I know, like I again 183 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 5: we talked about this in the car ride down't but 184 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 5: like I can't just go to work and then go home, 185 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: like I gotta do other things. And that's just me, 186 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: you know, trying stuff and doing comedy or doing this 187 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: and having fun and you need shit out out of 188 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: outside of your regular things to kind of find where 189 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: you're at. And yeah, now it's just like to have 190 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: that identity. It's it's so I gotta say, personally, it's 191 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 5: just so much more like relaxing, Yes, so much like 192 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: nicer to just be like I try a bunch of things. 193 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: Like for years you're talking about how you want to 194 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: be just an insult comic. For years, I didn't even 195 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: say I was a comic. 196 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 197 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 5: I was like three four years. I was like, no, 198 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: I'm just I'd do it once in a while, be 199 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 5: a comic. 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: I go, no, right, well, I would think that's even 201 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: depending where that comes from, it's almost more healthy gets 202 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: something I kind of do. It's kind of fun, you Like. 203 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: It took me years to be like, yes, I am one. 204 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: I mean I would argue, are you? I mean I 205 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: think too, Like it's not just limited to the jobs 206 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: it's and the identities of like what we do. It's 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: like the person who identifies as oh, I'm always the 208 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: one who sends a thank you note. I'm always the 209 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: one who brings things to the party. I never arrive 210 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: empty handed. It's like, are you or is that? 211 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: Like? 212 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: Why are you always that person? Have you just been 213 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: told by society that you're a horrible human if you 214 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: don't send a thank you? I have a niece. I 215 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: don't know how the fuck she sends thank you notes. 216 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: She has two kids under three, and she's a doctor 217 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: and a husband who I'm assuming she has to like 218 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: bang once in a while. I don't like to picture it, 219 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: but I'm assuming that's how you have kids. And I 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: said to her, and she always sends a handwritten thank you. 221 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: And I said to her, last time I saw her, 222 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: I said, you are now absolved from ever sending me 223 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: a thank you again, because I think you think older 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: people always want to thank you, which is kind of true, 225 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: but you are too busy to do that. You can 226 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: let go of that with me if you want to. So. 227 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the times are little identifying 228 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 2: factors of no, no, no, I'm that person have to be 229 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: looked at and go. Does it still serve me? Is 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: that something I still want be or have the capacity for? 231 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I guess YEA. The hardest part did 232 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: you find maybe when you were retired, like well you 233 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: said you were trying on identities, but like, did you 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: find letting go was the hardest part? Trying to find 235 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: a new one was the hardest part. 236 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: Letting go didn't happen till I tried like fifty things. 237 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: So the painting and the arts and crafts and the 238 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: just sitting around and reading. I can read. I could 239 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: just read. I'm a reader. 240 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: Now it's like, oh you're not. 241 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Like you read one book a month, like stop it. Yeah, 242 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: do you still like try on identities? 243 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: Well, not even that, but like did do you still 244 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: at one point? Like do you still identify obviously because 245 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: of who you are, like as a comic or are 246 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: you kind of like yeah, that was I did that. 247 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: It was fine, Like I'm always fine, although I swear 248 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: I attached it to get mad when my students don't 249 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: know who I am because I am like, oh really, 250 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: you never fucking maybe learn some history of comedy, dumb bitches, 251 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: Like because my students are all musical theater people very rarely. 252 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: They're not the age that should know who I am. Yeah, 253 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: but part of me is like, I think I should 254 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: start every class like and tell them what I did. 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, they kind of found out if 256 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: they should have. It was pretty public last year when 257 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: I was on Celebrity Weakest Link. They all decided, oh, 258 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: we can look her up and they were like, oh 259 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: my god, she's somebody. So I kind of go, well, 260 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: you should know that I have a place in comedy's history, 261 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: but that that's, oddly enough, that's not the most important 262 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: thing about me. The most important thing about me to them, 263 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: and I feel really good about this, is it's important 264 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: that I'm a great listener to them, a great teacher 265 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: to them, a great help in finding their voice. So 266 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: even now, like on let me see what it even 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: says on my GaAs Instagram identity things, because I don't know. 268 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: The students are phenomenal. They're your student was saying something. 269 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: I think it was Austin. Yeah, yeah, you got to 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: teach you with TV credits over yes. 271 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: Because it cracks up because they're always like gagging over 272 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: people who've been on Broadway because we have a couple 273 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: of teachers who have which is great. But I'm also like, yeah, 274 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: they've been on fucking two hundred TV so but that's 275 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: just me going, oh, I really want their respect. There's 276 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: something about students you really don't even want their respect. 277 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: You want like them to be like, oh, I should 278 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: listen to her, she's been there. So here's how I 279 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: identify on uh Instagram. I don't even retired insult comic, 280 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: like I like putting out their retired podcaster, which is 281 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: questionable if you've listened to this any gram eight. Yes, 282 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm very much identify. I never looked at the comedy 283 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: teacher and I say where because I want to promote 284 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: the school an overall, So I kind of like the 285 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: overall badass the best because I'm like, a badass is 286 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: someone in my opinion, in this day and age, which 287 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: just kind of just is themselves. And it's just kind 288 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: of like, it's fine, whatever I feel like doing, I'm 289 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: going to do. First, do no harm. I'm not hurting anybody, 290 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: but I don't have to have some big well now, 291 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm a certified life coach who works in integral coaching 292 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: and helps you heal mind body and soul, and it's like, oh, 293 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: so what, that's just part of you. I think it's 294 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: realizing all those things are just part of us. So 295 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: not up until about three months ago, I identified literally 296 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: my big thing was I have blue hair, perfect blood work, 297 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: and amazing but small teeth. So those are things. I 298 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: was like, well, I am so excited about those three things. 299 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: And when I was in San Francisco for this coaching training, 300 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: I didn't bring the blue dye for my hair and 301 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: it kind of washes out, and when I got home, 302 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: I didn't feel the desire or need to put it back. 303 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: And I've had blue hair for fifteen years. So I'm like, ooh, 304 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 2: what's this. This is interesting that I'm just letting it, 305 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: letting me not have that anymore. Let's why. I'm like, 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure why yet, but part of it is like, oh, 307 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: maybe that identity doesn't fit anymore. Maybe it's something I 308 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: don't need any more to be noticed. Maybe it'll be okay, 309 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: walking down the street, just a regular looking chick with 310 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: regular hair that isn't screaming for attention. Okay, let's see 311 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: what that looks like. So it's like curiosity also like yeah, 312 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: perfect blood work still stoked, best blood work ever. I 313 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: love that. My doctor's always like, you're amazing. We usually 314 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: have at least one thing wrong, but you have nothing wrong. 315 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, duh, and I start fanning myself. The 316 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: teeth thing was so funny because I was like, I 317 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: have perfect teeth. God, my mother taught us how to 318 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: have dental care. I get a cleaning every six months. 319 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: And a couple of weeks ago, I'm at the dentist 320 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: and he goes, get this. He goes, you have three cavities. 321 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't three cavities. I don't have a puzzy. Yeah, 322 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: I remember we said I have a dicky. He goes, 323 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: I go three, Like what, that's part of my identity? 324 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Like literally, I was in shock. I was like why, 325 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: like what would have happened? And I don't know. Are 326 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: you on any new medication? And I'm thinking, and of 327 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: course I'm half brain dead, so I'm not thinking clearly, 328 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think, so, oh my god, no, 329 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: he goes, are you sure? 330 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 331 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: Let me go home, let me see, let me look 332 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: things up. And I get home and I'm such an idiot. 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: I realized that a year before I'd gone on the 334 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: uh not the ozebic, the other one, the zep bound, 335 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: lost forty pounds. Yeah, I have a change to medication, 336 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: and I look up. Does this zep bound give you cavities? 337 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: Of course not, but it results in dry mouth and 338 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: ps if you're not. If you have a dry mouth, 339 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: you're not protecting your teeth. So you need to rinse 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: with this type of what do you call mouthwash whatever. 341 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh good, Now I gotta go back to 342 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: this guy and say, hey, man, I'm an idiot who 343 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: and I guess one of my identities isn't going to 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: be I have a great memory because I forgot I 345 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: was on fucking zep bound even though I injected every 346 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: other week. So just letting go of. I'm not the 347 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: chick with good teeth anymore. And by the way, if 348 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: he said to me, go off the medication so you 349 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: have not a dry mouth and freaking or else your 350 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: teeth are gonna rot, I'll say, give me a full 351 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: set of adventures before I get fat again. Sorry, I'm 352 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: not everyone else is allowed to get fat, not made. Yeah, 353 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: I hate myself more when I'm overweight, which is bad. 354 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: I get it. It's not good. I wish I was 355 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: a different way right now, I'm not. Maybe someday I 356 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: will be. But you give me a full set of 357 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: fucking choppers that are porcelain and a skinny ass that's 358 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: fine with her girl unders. 359 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 5: The young girl right, dry mouth and we. 360 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: Gross. So yeah, it's just those things we have to 361 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: look at and go ooh. Those things I was proud 362 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: of were a source of false pride that I don't 363 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: really need anymore. 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: You know. 365 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: Will I do everything to keep my blood work perfect? Yes, 366 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 2: mostly to just show off, but also to be healthy. 367 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: Will the hair evolve into a different color? Who knows? 368 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: So it's just like worth going. I don't have to 369 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: stay in any of these one thing. So do you 370 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: have to be a comic forever if it doesn't make 371 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: you happy? Just to be able to say I'm a comedian, 372 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you have to? 373 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: No? 374 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: So is this your retirement? 375 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: It's not on Howard Stern, but it's close. 376 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, as well if you can retire somewhere. 377 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 5: No, not yet, Like again we have this comment, but 378 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: like if it's still fun, yeah, it's like and it 379 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 5: doesn't and it's not. I will say to the identitything. 380 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 5: I've gotten mad when other people have made it my identity. 381 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's my buddy Nick. He's a real funny 382 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: guy those comedy. 383 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: The maddest I ever get is when I'm at parties 384 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 5: just being me, just chilling, ripping, you know, Zingers as 385 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 5: we call him in the business. Yes, you sure are 386 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: fucking whatever fun. And then I have a friend or 387 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: someone will go, oh, well he's a comedian and I go, bitch, yeah, 388 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: I didn't start till I was thirty, right, I'm like 389 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 5: this my entire life. So he has nothing to do 390 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 5: with me being on a stage and with a microphone. 391 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 5: That made me this. I've been this way, so that 392 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: makes me mad. 393 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: I get like, yeah, don't don't put that on me. 394 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, And also I resent when people are like 395 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 5: I think I'm doing it to like show up. It's 396 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 5: like no, no, no, this is me in a social situation, right, You're. 397 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: Just annoyingly funny when you're off stage time, Stephanie, do 398 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: you identify as anything, Like, for instance, you're on a date, 399 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: Say you're on a date with a new guy and 400 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: you're like, he's like, so tell me about you, Like, 401 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: what do you say? What's the first thing you say. 402 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 6: That's a good question. I think I usually go into 403 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: my job first, cause it's like new for me. I'm 404 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: excited about it. It's something I've been working towards my 405 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 6: whole life practically. 406 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: And then you say like, oh, and I know, like 407 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Lese Lampanelli, we're both any remains the correct all right. 408 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 6: And then after that I kind of just like go 409 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 6: into hobbies. 410 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like your hobbies or your job 411 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: make you more interesting and are more a truthful version 412 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: of you? 413 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 6: Sort of because I crochet and I think that makes 414 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: me cool. 415 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I love those I envy people who have 416 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: those hobbies. I really do. I I'll follow a lot 417 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: of people now who are like cozy vibes or like whimsical, 418 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: magical thinker some bullshit, and I'll be like, oh my god, 419 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: look at their life. It looks so nice that one's 420 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: doing needle point, that one's crocheting, that one's like having 421 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: a candle, Like they have a candle and they have 422 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: a they sip something by the candle. So that to 423 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: me is like so nice of a vibe. Like if 424 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: I met somebody and they led with all that, I'd 425 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's more important than your job, you know, 426 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: So what do you find you're most proud of internally? 427 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: Not like, oh, it's a job, so I like, eh, 428 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 2: I work for all my life. What gives you a 429 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: sense of pride of your humanity? 430 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 6: I guess because like it's not just like a dust 431 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 6: job where everyone's sitting down opening up an Excel sheet. 432 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: That's why always say I have to marry someone who 433 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 6: has an interesting job because I can't ask you about 434 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 6: your Excel. 435 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: Sheet every day. Yeah that's true. 436 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: But for me, like I found a job and I 437 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: was able to land it, and like all this that 438 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 6: I actually like going to every day and it's different. 439 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 6: It's cool. I'm meeting people all the time. I'm not 440 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 6: changing who I am just to sit at a dusk 441 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 6: for nine to five, right, Like, it's just way different. 442 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: So I think it is representative of who I am 443 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: as a person too. 444 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, what I would say to you is you're young, 445 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 2: probably twenty three, so you'll be sixty nine in three times. Okay, 446 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: so i'll be long dead, sad, But by sixty nine. 447 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: What's good is now if you also develop these hobbies 448 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: and these pastimes that you enjoy and grow the personality 449 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: and interests outside the career. Then when you're too age 450 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: out of this business or you're like, I don't want 451 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: to do that anymore, like ooh, but now look at 452 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: all the cool stuff I do, which could lead to 453 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: like a lot of happiness. Like I have a lot 454 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: of happiness from just the little shit I do every 455 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: day or my cute little things I do with friends. 456 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, well that this all feels more 457 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: meaningful now ben the career did at the time. So 458 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: developing both I think is a good. It's good that 459 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: you start that. You know, Nick, it's too late for 460 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: you on all levels. Yeah, all right, okay, okay, So 461 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: let's talk identity with some of our crazy a hole listeners. 462 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 5: Dear Lisa, I am a former actor who quit about 463 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 5: ten years ago. I did a bunch of day player 464 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 5: roles on TV and film, but can never progress past. 465 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: That day player also meaning home extra extra and or 466 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 2: background which oh no, his day player. 467 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: No, you could have speaking lines, I think. 468 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: No, that's under five. Nick. Could you maybe be a 469 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: professional Stephanie do your job and look up day player. 470 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: Way better than Celia. 471 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: I would like you if you did your job go ahead. 472 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 6: The performer hired for short term work, typically just one 473 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: or a few days. 474 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: Oh, non recurring role. Oh so it could be someone who, 475 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: for instance, on the sketch on SNL and stands there 476 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: or something. Okay, so it's maybe not an extra Okay, 477 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: so that day player. 478 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: Okay, day play. 479 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: Didn't progress that. Last week I got a letter from 480 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 5: the Screen Actors. 481 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: Guild, which is of course the union sag. 482 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: ZAG, saying that they will expel me if I don't 483 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: pay my dues. I haven't paid in years, but it 484 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 5: looks like they're finally throwing down the gauntlet. Do you 485 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: think I should pay it and keep my SAG status 486 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 5: or let that dream go? 487 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 6: Wow? 488 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: Getting in SAG was something I was proud of, and 489 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 5: the thought that I may return to acting someday still 490 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: pops in my head. Thank you for your help. 491 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: Doug from Hoboken, Oh man, he has so many red 492 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: flags of guy who should quit because you're like hanging 493 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: on to that New York City thing by being in Hoboken. 494 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: But it's not really New York. You're a you're a 495 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: day player. But you probably said like three words one 496 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: thing though, if it's not hurting you or that's what 497 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: the thing is and you can't. You have to be 498 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: honest with yourself. If it's not hurting you by staying 499 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: in the union, you can pay the dues and stay. 500 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: And this doesn't just mean financially. Yeah, it's like I 501 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: think it's like four hundred bucks a year. If that's 502 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: hurting you, then figure your shit out. So, if it's 503 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: not hurting you financially to stay in, that's fine, but 504 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: you have to look at the deeper level. Is it 505 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: keeping you stuck? Is it keeping you holding on to 506 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: a dream that should die and the only one who 507 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: could figure that out is you, because I don't know 508 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: should that dream die for you? Maybe maybe it's holding 509 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: you back from finding what you really want to do. 510 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: Like my show dream Killer Idea, which I've talked about, 511 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: where we would go around. This is a fantasy show. 512 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: I have go around pick a shitty actor or comic 513 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: or songwriter or whatever and say you have no talent 514 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: in that, But here's how you let go of that 515 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: dream and find the new thing. So is just him 516 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: keeping one foot in sag keeping him from moving forward? 517 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: If it's not, and if you can fully say no, 518 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: but I'm still trying a bunch of stuff. It's kind 519 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: of in the background. Who cares, I'm just going to 520 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: keep in the union. But only he can know that. 521 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, my only question would 522 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: be because I don't know, because I'm not in SAGFAG 523 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 5: yet equity? 524 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: Are you in equity? 525 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 5: I was going to say, was what is the advantage 526 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: of keeping the SAG card versus letting it go? Because 527 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: if he's thinking about it one day, cool, Well. 528 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Because it's almost it's really hard to get back in. 529 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: So it's a thing where you I think the rules 530 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: used to be, I don't know what they are now, 531 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: where you could tafteartly, which means you can do two 532 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: parts on TV or film without paying dues, and the 533 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: third one it's like, dude, you got to start fucking 534 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: paying dues, so he'd have to redo again. I think. So, 535 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: I mean those are maybe old rules, but meaning there 536 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: is some cost to letting it go, But only he 537 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: can figure out if the cost of staying is more 538 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: emotionally than he should handle. Like I remember when I 539 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: was about to retire my manager Maggie, who is just 540 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean, she's more patient than even Celia, Like she's 541 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: just like, okay, man, I just want you to be happy. 542 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: I said, I want to retire publicly, and she's like nah, 543 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: she goes, why don't you just like stop doing it 544 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: and just not You don't have to kill the character, 545 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: like you know, to kill the queen and me. And 546 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: it took a long time for that to develop. I 547 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: just kind of don't announce it, just stop working. And I 548 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: was like, no, I have to kill it to move forward, 549 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: and I did because maybe in a weak moment, I'd 550 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 2: be like, oh, man, I can we have fucking forty 551 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: grand here. I can grow this and not even about 552 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: the money. It's about going I can step back into 553 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: the past and get that little hit of like a 554 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: She still got it, But I would have never progressed 555 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: through the other identities and come out on the side 556 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: of what doesn't really matter. I don't need an identity 557 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: other than my perfect blood work. It's all I need. 558 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: I just need to be alive. 559 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 5: It was your way of being accountable to other people. 560 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a reason to not get tempted, not 561 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: to get tempted by a bad offer. So then when 562 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: a decent offer, like a cute thing like a game show, 563 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: that doesn't require you to live in the past, and 564 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: you could just earn money for charity that comes up 565 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: your life. It's take oh cute, Yeah, but I don't 566 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: have to be funny on it. I don't have to 567 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: hold on to that is my identity. So only he'll 568 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: be able to tell. I would say it's worth letting go, because, 569 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: as Jonathan Livingston Seagull said, it's more to find you again. 570 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: So you will say, you hit sixty, you see a 571 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: casting for you know, old man in grocery store with 572 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: two lines, you do it and then pay to get 573 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: back in. If it's going to find you, it will. 574 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. That was my only question because I don't know, 575 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: like does he have health insurance through there? I started 576 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: thinking proudic. 577 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: No, if he hasn't paid it in years, he doesn't. 578 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: And you have to earn a certain amount through TV 579 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: and film every year for them to keep giving you insurance. 580 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: So years ago, Leo, my business manager, was like, oh, 581 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: by the way, you aren't doing enough TV and film. 582 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: We have to get you insurance elsewhere. So like, okay, 583 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: find me something. So yeah, he's probably if I gun 584 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: to head, if I had to give him an answer, 585 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: i'd be like, quit it. It's going to find you 586 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: if it's supposed to. 587 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean does does it Another question I have, 588 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 5: does it affect him? Get if you want to get 589 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: back into acting with having a SAG card versus not affect. 590 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: It's very rarely that I think that, again, this all 591 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: could have changed I'm out of the business. Usually not. 592 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: I think if you if you are auditioning and they're like, oh, 593 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: non union, that's okay, you know you just have to 594 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: join the union, okay. 595 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, let it Yeah, then I would say let it expire. 596 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: I need to ask all these questions. 597 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: I really know. That's okay. I'm so glad I can 598 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: give you wrong answers about most of this stuff. 599 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 5: So whatever someone currently is like, that's how it is now. 600 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: I know. Just yeah, yeah, I'm retired. I'm supposed to 601 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: have all the answers. You fucked, But I still stay 602 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: in all the unions. Why not? It's not hurting me 603 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: because I'm flush. Because also like equity. I love equity 604 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: because it's like the live actor, like Broadway, off Broadway 605 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: and regional and it just sounds classy to be like, 606 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: now I'm an actor, it's like fucking not. Still getting 607 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: that to an identity. Maybe I could let go of, 608 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: but it's not whole. I don't think about it. It 609 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: doesn't hold me back. It's well, if you're on Broadway, 610 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: you have to be in the Equity Union, got it? 611 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: You know, like all the it's at Norwalk. They strive 612 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: and most of them are already. They'll strive to be 613 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: equity National Tour reach this. 614 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: I always think it's like in my head because I 615 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: don't know anything. I like make shit up. I'm like 616 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 5: equity means like a. It's probably like a like a 617 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: gold level of SAG or something. 618 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: They're two different unions. 619 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: It's okay on Silver's all. 620 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: Right, one TV and film SAG after his TV and 621 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: film they merged and inequity is for live performers. Luckily, 622 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: comics don't have a union because comics are such backstabbing cunts. 623 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: We take every non union job that's screwed over somebody 624 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: else because we don't care about any Well, let's take 625 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: it all the worst, all right, bitch. 626 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 5: All right? Letter number two, Dear Litha. I'm Joe Anne, 627 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 5: fifty nine in Saint Louis. My kids are grown, my 628 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 5: husband's retired. My uterus is on strike? 629 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Who isn't? 630 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 5: So is fucking Stephanie's over here? I wake up every 631 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 5: day and think, wait, who the hell am I? Now? 632 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 5: I'm not anyone's mom, wife or emergency contact anymore. I mean, 633 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 5: you're still a wife. 634 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: She hates him? 635 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I'm just Joanne of Joanne's Fabrics. 636 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you built the Empire which went by way? 637 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Was just overtaken by Michaels, was it? I know, so 638 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: sad for Joanne. 639 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 5: I saw the Pride Paride They're gonna have a float 640 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 5: this year. 641 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: Are you serious? Oh? 642 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: Shut up? You got all excited? 643 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: Doesn't all the gays? Yeah? 644 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: New York. 645 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm just Joanne and Joanne. It turns 646 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 5: out it's kind of boring. She does missionary like Stephanie. 647 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 5: I need. Do I need a new identity or just 648 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: a hobby that doesn't involve wine and detective shows? 649 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: Oh my god, they detective first of all, step away 650 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: from the line. It can't go. Step away from the 651 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: detective shows. That can't go. 652 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 5: Well. 653 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would argue she doesn't need an identity. She's 654 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: gonna just have to try doing a lot of different things. 655 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: I read that I've said this before. Anxiety is fear 656 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 2: without a plan. Get a plan, a little loose plan. 657 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try this next month. I'm gonna try that 658 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: the month after. You gotta stop thinking you need one 659 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: overarching identity because it didn't work. None of them lasted. 660 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: Mom doesn't last because once they're out of the house, 661 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: they're on to the next. Wife doesn't last because the 662 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: charmer that fucking wears off quick. Believe you me. Daughter 663 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: doesn't last because they die. Sister doesn't last, like all 664 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: of it's just these things you are, but you don't 665 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: need the big overarching thing. I remember in Acropollu, this 666 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: meditation place we went to. I was in a workshop 667 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: and they said, write down everything you identify as, and 668 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, we write down daughter, sister, comic, helper or whatever, 669 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: any grammy ate, whatever, and so you have tons of 670 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: these things. And then it'd be like, oh wait, I 671 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: forgot and it will sound corny, but I don't care 672 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: forgot the most important one. Just a human, that's all 673 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: that fucking counts. So the more she could lean into 674 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: acceptance of oh wait, I'm just a human. How do 675 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 2: I not make that into I'm boring? Because it's not boring. 676 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: If I told you about a person who got up 677 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: in the morning, they lit a candle, they did their meditation, 678 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: they went outside, got the paper because they're still the 679 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: old person who gets the newspaper. They but fed the dogs, 680 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: They read a book, they watched a show, they journaled, 681 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: they met with friends, they went to game night. Whatever 682 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: it is, you'll be like, that's not a boring person. 683 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: That's like a person who has a cute look life. 684 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 2: If her goal was I'm gonna be what's her first name, Jones, 685 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: Joanne's fabrics with a cute little life. You never know 686 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: what it's gonna look like. But that's driving over a 687 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 2: big one, a big identifier. I don't think it's gonna work. 688 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Joanne, here's the deal. 689 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, we're gearing up here for some words of 690 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: wisdom that aren't gonna come. 691 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 5: Just give up, it's over. 692 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: Just cheat on your husband, yes, I mean with me, 693 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: get drunk on wine. You relive a true crime thing 694 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: yourself by cheating on your husband and murdering him. That's 695 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: not yo, that's not boring. That's the opposite. Do you 696 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: want that life? 697 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 5: You want to spend your golden years in a penitentiary. 698 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not boring. Uncle Junior did. 699 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 5: It pretty good? Junior go to jail, he was he 700 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 5: had like a he went to like an insane hospital. 701 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: Oh that's right, it was actually jail. 702 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: She could do that. Drive herself crazy. 703 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 5: I just go, I'm crazy. All the type of shows 704 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 5: and why. 705 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think the more you go after the 706 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: big identity, it's just going to lead you down another 707 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: path of like in ten years, Wow, I'm not that anymore. 708 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: Just go internal, find out, and a very elemental exercise 709 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: might be what did you like to do as a kid, right? 710 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: Who knows what that leads to. It might be some 711 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: exercise hobby, or some art hobby, or some nature thing 712 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: that you're like, oh yeah, I forgot that part of me. 713 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. And in the playground, which is what you used 714 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 5: to do to beat up myself. 715 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: There you go, Next letter. 716 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 5: Next letter. All right, hey, Lisa, what I feel like? 717 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 5: You'll tell me the truth? 718 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 719 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Angelo, I'm thirty one. I live in Los Angeles. 720 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 5: I always said I was going to be an act 721 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 5: all but after five years of rejection, postmate gigs and 722 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 5: performing in front of four drunk tourists at a bar 723 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 5: I didn't know it booked a contwait at a bar 724 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 5: that I didn't know it booked a comedy show. I'm 725 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 5: starting to wonder if I'm just a guy who majored 726 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 5: in the theater and now sells skincare on TikTok. 727 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 4: Oh. 728 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 5: Damn, this is hard. Damn, this is giving up or 729 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: growing up. Please advise Angelo. I'll take this. 730 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 2: One, Nick as a loser with a dream. What do 731 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: you think. 732 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 5: If you're selling anything on TikTok, No, it's your as. 733 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: No. If it's a puffer vest, it's okay. 734 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 4: Guys. I love this puffer jacket. 735 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: You could dress it up, it down, stay cold, warm, 736 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 5: squeeze your tits, whatever, it. 737 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter, No, it doesn't, it doesn't. 738 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 5: Denim. 739 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: These are my favorite. 740 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: I hate those. 741 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times with these guys who 742 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: used to be actors, who were majored in theater, they 743 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: forget why they went to it in the first place. 744 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: So if you went into acting, it's usually a couple 745 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: of things, and I think the most healthy one was 746 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: you wanted to convey a human experience in an artistic way. Well, 747 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 2: you can do that on a small level, community theater 748 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: regional theater. You can do it in a way on TikTok, 749 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: like you can use some of that training and some 750 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: of that to get across why you chose to do 751 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: this thing in the first place, which is to make 752 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: people feel less alone. But if that's not why you 753 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: went into it, and you went into it to be 754 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: seen to hold people captive in a room while you 755 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: performed to get some self worth, that's worth looking at 756 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: to see if you should give it the fuck up 757 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: because you were in it for the wrong reasons and 758 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: shallow ones. 759 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun. When I started comedy again, we had 760 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 5: this conversation. But when I go to comedy it was 761 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 5: the same thing. Was like after I went to therapy. 762 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 5: I remember thinking at shows and sitting down and being like, 763 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 5: are we all doing this because we really want to 764 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 5: do it? Or is this just our hit? Are we 765 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 5: all doing I used to in my head this is 766 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 5: like a jokey way, but it's kind of how I thought. 767 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 5: Are we just doing this because none of us have 768 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 5: girlfriends or wives yet? 769 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 770 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 5: Like are we just Are we just doing this for attention? 771 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 5: Are we just doing this because we could get a 772 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 5: little hit of attention out of it? Or meet a 773 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 5: girl or what like? Are we is that what we're 774 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 5: doing it for? Do we actually like love it? Because 775 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 5: it seems like the people who make it, like yourself 776 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 5: and whatever when you talked about your story, but every 777 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 5: comic that you speak to, it's like they loved it. 778 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: Like and they would have done anything to get that. 779 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 5: Thing get for them. Getting on stage was like, I 780 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 5: cannot live if I do not do this right, So 781 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 5: you got to ask yourself like, is that really? What again? 782 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: Is that what is to you? 783 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: Like? 784 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 5: I will not be happy unless I do this? Or 785 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 5: is it like you said, oh look at me, I'm 786 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 5: doing well, I'm attention right, You got to find out 787 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 5: what the fuck it is first? 788 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's worth looking at what it would 789 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: mean to walk away? And is that in my highest good? 790 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: Like often with like somatic therapy, you do where you 791 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: identify the child who in you that felt they needed 792 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: the attention, say, for instance, and then your wisest self 793 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: now talks to them. Will that wisest self be You've 794 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: tried long enough, I see you and that's enough. 795 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 796 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: Would it be? Hey, I see you and it's fun. 797 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: Let's play at it. Let's make it play let's make 798 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: it fun and interesting and cute like it was when 799 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 2: we were in the sixth grade show. Like, I coach 800 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: a girl who told me about when she did her 801 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: first Oh it's so cute when she did like a 802 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: musical when she was eight. I think it was like 803 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 2: one hundred one Dalmatians and she was the little Dog 804 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 2: and she's I go, oh, did you have to RF? 805 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh no, we like sing the chorus 806 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: and she goes, was so much fun. And I'm like, 807 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 2: if that's the energy like you can bring into now, 808 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: that would be great. So if he could get where 809 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 2: he could bring in that first energy of soulful, wonder 810 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: and love, boy, that's worth sticking with and then doing 811 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: it in whatever way you can. Then ps, even if 812 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 2: you do it in a small, little theater, you won't 813 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: feel like a loser because you get that hit. 814 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I think when like when I started comedy, 815 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 5: I was in such a different place like now it's 816 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 5: I keep coming back to it's fun. I like it. 817 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 5: It's fun yep. With acting even like it's like, yeah, 818 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 5: you know, you get the dreams of Like imagine if 819 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 5: I got a sitcom and I did this and blah 820 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 5: blah blah, but like there's also a part of me 821 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 5: that's like, you know, it would be really fun. Is 822 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 5: like being in a live production, yeah, my acting studio. 823 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 5: Like I watch that, I'm like, that would be really cool. 824 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. 825 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not making a bunch of money. I'm 826 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 5: not lighting the world on fire. Ye, but I'm in 827 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 5: that now that I'm like, oh, but that would be 828 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 5: that would be so fucking cool to do that. 829 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the wonder that you want to bring 830 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: to it and the awe instead of like, you know that, 831 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: well that would help me make this and this connection 832 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: and then like when it becomes so much of a business, 833 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: it's really sad. So I would say to him, look internally, 834 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 2: figure out what you love about it and see if 835 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: it's worth sticking it out, or if you can get 836 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: what you love about it from other areas of your life, 837 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: if you can be seen and heard and felt valued 838 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: in other areas. There's a lot easier ways to do 839 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: it than that grind. God, that's a fucking business. I'm 840 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: so glad I made it because I probably I'm not 841 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: gonna say, i'd probably be dead, but I was like 842 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: I wonder what the fuck would have happened. I think 843 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: I was just mentally ill enough to make it work. 844 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 5: Okay, what do you think would have happened? 845 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: Though? I don't know if I just was some sad 846 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: headliner going from like Denver Comedy Connection, if that's the thing. 847 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 5: Never, so you never, you think if it didn't work 848 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 5: out the way that you still would have been doing it, 849 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 5: no matter even if you didn't make it, you think 850 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 5: you'd still be doing it. 851 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: Probably by now I would have had some wake up 852 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 2: call of like, you don't like this. I think I 853 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: would have quit at the age I quit no matter 854 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: what gotcha, at whatever level I was on. But it 855 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 2: was way easier to walk away when you're kind of 856 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 2: already somebody Yeah you know, so sure who. 857 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 5: Knows won super Bowl and you got out? That's right, Michael, Yeah, 858 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 5: an one straight listener. 859 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: It's so funny. Michael Strahanna had a sitcom on Fox 860 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: and I was in the pilot and my manager sent 861 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: it to me because like, it's not like I was 862 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: a big actor or something, but he was a fan. 863 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: So I was bartender fucking got cut out. I was 864 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 2: at the beginning. In the end, it's like a little 865 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: bookend and they're like, yeah, we had a cup for 866 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: time and I was like, oh, cup for bad acting. Yeah, 867 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean like so it's like, oh, thank you Michael 868 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: strahan On. Yes, wow, we ended on such a butcher 869 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: note had some femininity. Stephanie. Tell people where to follow 870 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: you on Instagram. You said very little today, but I 871 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: enjoyed what you did. Share. Go ahead, where is your Instagram. 872 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 6: At steph Lane to ease underscore and I'm not spelling 873 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 6: it out. 874 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 2: No, she's she's an eight and you figure it out. 875 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: Tell everybody where to find you. 876 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 5: You can follow me at nick Scopes on Instagram and 877 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 5: the TikTok and you can find me where anywhere. Baby. 878 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 5: That's that's right at the local mortgage broker. 879 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 2: Paying people's mortgages. 880 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 5: Follow her, Lisa Lambinelli. If you guys want to write 881 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 5: into the show, first of all, thank you for listening 882 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 5: so much. If you want to write into the show, 883 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,919 Speaker 5: email us at shrink this Show at gmail dot com. 884 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 5: That is shrinked this show at gmail dot com. Follow 885 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 5: us on Instagram, and please listen on your iHeartRadio app 886 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 5: and nowhere else. But it's okay if you listen to 887 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: other places. 888 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is, but we won't fucking be picking 889 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: and choosing. But if I had to pick one to. 890 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 5: Be iHeart, I'd probably go Spotify. 891 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean, my identify as an iHeart representative. Now that's 892 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: my new identity. I'm going to change it on Instagram, 893 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: Toube podcast, or come iHeart representative. 894 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't pay me as art. 895 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 2: Yeah listen, bitch bye