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Speaker 2: Oh my man, they can't keep us apart. That's that's

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Speaker 2: the message that I keep getting. And Yep, we're in

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Speaker 2: Uh And not just because the great ephrom Salam is here,

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Speaker 2: This is where my brain was at today thinking about

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Speaker 2: the NFL quarterback carousel and from the Bears and their

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Speaker 2: thoughts to Sean Payton in Denver with what he said,

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Speaker 2: I think whenever you're out public with comments like this,

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Speaker 2: it means one thing and one thing only, and that

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Speaker 2: is that you're moving on from your guy. And so

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Speaker 2: I think Justin Field's gonna play for a new team

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Speaker 2: this year. I think Russell Wilson's gonna play for a

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Speaker 2: new team this year. And maybe it won't stop there,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, etc. I don't know, but I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about it this way, like how much time would you

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Speaker 2: save in your life if you had moved on from

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Speaker 2: the things that you should have moved on from at

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Speaker 2: first warning?

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Speaker 1: I mean a lifetime right when I first warning?

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Speaker 2: Of course warn it, and you know, like that's not

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Speaker 2: the way we're built. We want to check it out,

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Speaker 2: massage it. Maybe I'm just having a bad day. There's

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Speaker 2: too much to give up, Like there's too much of

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Speaker 2: a cost here, what have you.

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Speaker 1: But the things that in the end.

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Speaker 2: You were like, man, I should have bolted from that

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Speaker 2: a long time ago. Like at first warning, if a

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Speaker 2: genie said give me three wishes, I think that'd be

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Speaker 2: one of them. The wisdom to move on from which

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to move on from right away, first warning.

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Speaker 3: That's why people go to psychics. Hey, get into a

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Speaker 3: new relationship, go to a psychic. Is it going to

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Speaker 3: be worth it? Is he the one? Is he going

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Speaker 3: to choke me? Is he going to cheat on me?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Get a new job? Are thinking about quitting your job?

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Speaker 3: Should I go? Should I like it? If people had

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Speaker 3: the information, for a fact, then you'd waste a lot

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Speaker 1: But then that wouldn't be life, now, would it? No,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't. It wouldn't be life. There are no lessons

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Speaker 1: annoying all the answers.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe the thing you're supposed to move on

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Speaker 2: from is listening to a psychic.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. You're right, that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be life.

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Speaker 2: But isn't that where a bunch of NFL teams sit?

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Speaker 2: And I would argue that while the two that I

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Speaker 2: aware of it from, I think there are more. I

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Speaker 2: handful of NFL teams out there wasting time. And I

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Speaker 2: get that it's not always easy. Sometimes there are you know,

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Speaker 2: financial complications to it for sure, But right this is

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Speaker 2: interesting on paper class coming out and and now's your chance,

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Speaker 2: now's your chance.

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Speaker 1: Look, if the Broncos can wiggle free from.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson to that contract, then anybody can do it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you just have to be willing to

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Speaker 3: And nowadays owners are more wealthier than ever, they are

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Speaker 1: That's gone. That's gone.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at the the structure of

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Speaker 3: I Mean, it's sad, but I get it as a

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Speaker 1: But it, like they say, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: These them's bees the facts.

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Speaker 3: And so if we're in a situation where you're like, look,

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Speaker 3: What does it look like now? The discussion it never

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Speaker 3: used to be a discussion. Now the discussion is all right,

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Speaker 3: So are we willing to swallow this here and then

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Speaker 3: than not, it's yes.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I mean, let's get this out in front

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Speaker 2: right away. Do you think the Bear should move on

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Speaker 2: from Justin Field? I personally don't think so. And the

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Speaker 2: reason why is Number one, he has talent number two.

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Speaker 2: For the last two years, two and a half years,

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Speaker 2: they've had a the worst roster in football.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Offensive line wise, just across the board, defense wise they

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Speaker 3: have they've had the worst roster. So not quite sure

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Speaker 3: what you and haven't They haven't drafted very well. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So let's be honest. Let's not put all of this

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Speaker 3: We don't look at it like that because organizations don't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere players do. The Bears are a storied, blue

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Speaker 3: blood organization, So more onus is on the actual quarterback.

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Speaker 3: When have they been good in terms of quarterback? You

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Speaker 3: can argue that he's been one of their most productive

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Speaker 1: You are touching on something. Tell me I'm a lie.

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Speaker 1: You're not a lie.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you're touching on something that I've said a

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Speaker 2: think about it, and I think you're touch younger than me?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? How old are you? Is it that touch?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I got a smidge, smidge a smidge. Neither one

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Speaker 2: of us is had our fiftieth birthday?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Right? What you graduate high school? I

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Speaker 1: graduated high school in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Right, I graduated high school in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so there's your smitch, A real smidge, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: And I do skew u kind of in the middle

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Speaker 2: a January birthday.

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Speaker 3: Right, But see for me, I skipped to grades. So

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Speaker 3: I graduated high school at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh you are smug like that? Hello? So okay, that's

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Speaker 1: why I give you the smidge.

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Speaker 3: In life, we're on the same path with the same

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Speaker 1: I just have to smart.

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Speaker 2: That's how well, that's how you end up thirteen years

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Speaker 2: enough to look at your kids and.

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Speaker 1: Say, don't play football really good? Really good? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: All right, So yes, a smidge, You're a smidge. Although

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Speaker 2: now I completely forgot why I why did I bring

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Speaker 3: We were talking about me hitting on the fact that

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Speaker 3: I just yes.

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Speaker 1: The Bears. Okay, the Bears.

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Speaker 2: So in our lifetime, the Bears have been on the

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Speaker 2: search for a quarterback the whole time.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't like Jim, look I love Jim McMahon.

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Speaker 3: I was born in Chicago. The eighty five Bear Super

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Speaker 1: But was he a world beater at quarterback? Dude?

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Speaker 2: He had crazy hair, he had sung handmand all of

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Speaker 2: that was, and the best defense.

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Speaker 3: That had ever lived, ever, ever periods and one of

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Speaker 2: Imagine if the Brock Purty Twitter train had existed back then,

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Speaker 2: because that's the guy.

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Speaker 1: Where you're like, dude, are you doing anything? Are you

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Speaker 1: just here? Do you just snap the ball? Or what

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So, yeah, the Bears have been searching for a

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Speaker 2: quarterback the whole time, my whole life. I turned fifty

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Speaker 2: next year, Ephraim. They've been looking for a QB the

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields and go, huh, not bad, not bad.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: However, I'm torn because every now and again stuff comes

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Speaker 2: of like, what you just did? Does that stat or

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Speaker 2: does that piece of information? Does that mean something? Or

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Speaker 2: is it kind of so circumstantial because yeah, like DJ

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Speaker 2: of turnover, Like, has it just been a bad beat

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Speaker 2: in the weeds on stats, it's boring, but EPA Expected

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Speaker 2: I saw Warren Sharp do this this morning, expected points

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Speaker 2: every QB since two thousand that was a first round

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Speaker 2: his second year, and my god, it's a pretty good

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Speaker 2: indicator of who's good and who's not. Like, number one

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Speaker 2: Akille Smith, and Dwayne Haskins rest in peace.

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Speaker 1: And so when you look at that, you go okay,

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Speaker 2: Can find an outlier to thirty seventh on the list

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Speaker 1: Now, Josh Allen I think is pretty good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I know there's still, you know, check boxes that need

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Speaker 2: to be marked, but I think that's a pretty good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So maybe there are outliers, But justin fields, my man

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Speaker 2: is fifty seventh on this list of sixty one qbs

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Speaker 2: with a negative point one eight EPA per attempt.

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Speaker 1: In his career. Yes, and I look for three years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, he's right behind Zach Wilson and Kenny Ticket

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Speaker 2: and JP Loewsman and Cade mcnowns.

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Speaker 3: So every single person, hold on, and I'm gonna cut

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Speaker 3: you off. But if you just you said, would you

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Speaker 2: Yes, without a debt? Continue, go ahead? Yeah, no again,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you, But there are moments

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Speaker 2: Fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed. Thirty five point five this year

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Speaker 1: Because of these two teams, I do think one of.

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Speaker 1: But let's get our guy, Steve in. Let's get Steve

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Speaker 6: There may have only been one NBA team on the

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Speaker 6: The Boston Celtics outscored Golden State by twenty two in

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Speaker 1: But three and one road trip, yes, exactly. It was

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Speaker 6: a record of nine and fifty one. Meanwhile, it's the

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Speaker 6: Spurs in action at home, only down two mid third quarter.

439
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Speaker 6: It's Pacer sixty three sixty one at San Antonio, Spurs

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Speaker 6: record twelve and forty eight. In other words, yeah, the

441
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Speaker 6: exact opposite of the Celtics record. Victor Webbin Yamo was

442
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Speaker 6: seventeen points so far. The next got some news early

443
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Speaker 6: first minute of the game. Jalen Brunson goes limping off.

444
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Speaker 6: It's called a sore knee. The Knicks are leading in

445
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Speaker 6: the third at Cleveland sixty four to sixty two. Donovan

446
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Speaker 6: Mitchell and the Cavs still out tonight with a sore knee,

447
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 6: and the late game starts up in an hour. The

448
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Speaker 6: Sun's hosting the Oklahoma City Thunder Lebron James with his

449
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 6: ankle problem questionable for tomorrow against the Thunder Sacramentos. Dieron

450
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 6: Fox with a bruis knee questionable for Monday, but did

451
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Speaker 6: practice fully today. Jannisn and Acoompo with achilles tendonitis is

452
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 6: questionable for tomorrow against the Clippers, but Chris Middleton, with

453
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Speaker 6: a sprained ankle, will be missing a tenth straight game

454
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Speaker 6: for Milwaukee. To college hoops wins for Indiana, Nebraska and

455
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Speaker 6: Ohio State, which beat Michigan eighty four to sixty one.

456
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Speaker 6: Michigan hoops three and sixteen in the Big Ten Conference.

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Speaker 6: Yukon rank third in the country, Whipseaton Hall ninety one

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Speaker 6: sixty one among the NHL games, La King's five to

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Speaker 6: one winners against New Jersey. By the way, there was

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Speaker 6: women's hoops on Fox TV today. It was Caitlin Clark's

461
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Speaker 6: last regular season home game at Iowa. It's looking like

462
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Speaker 6: they'll have a couple of home games to start the

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Speaker 6: NCAA tournament. But regular season ended here and she had

464
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Speaker 6: thirty five points, nine assists and number six Iowa beat

465
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Speaker 6: number two Ohio State ninety three to eighty three. Kyle

466
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Speaker 6: Larson took the NASCAR race in Las Vegas. The PGA

467
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 6: tournament in Florida will finish tomorrow after thunderstorms there today,

468
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Speaker 6: and Chris Mortenson passed away this morning at the age

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Speaker 6: of seventy two. Longtime NFL reporter. In twenty sixteen, he

470
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Speaker 6: got an award at the Pro Football Hall of Fame

471
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Speaker 6: from the Pro Football Writers. Twenty sixteen was the year

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Speaker 6: he was diagnosed to stage four throat cancer. Universally liked.

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Speaker 6: I literally have not heard a bad word about this guy.

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Speaker 6: A Southern California native, he started as a journalist at

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Speaker 6: the South Bay Daily Breeze in nineteen sixty nine, not

476
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Speaker 6: just covering football the first decade plus of his career,

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Speaker 6: as I recall, he was an official scorer at the

478
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Speaker 6: World Series at Dodger Stadium in the Steve Garvey era.

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Speaker 6: This guy had a long and great career. Happy to

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Speaker 6: mention his name is Chris Mortenson. Passes away at seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, Steve Yes, rest in peace,

482
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Speaker 2: and I concur I have not met Chris Mortons and

483
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Speaker 2: other than two have him on phone calls on shows

484
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: at times throughout my career.

485
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Speaker 1: But sometimes you just know, you know because of the

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Speaker 1: people you know who know the person.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he one of those guys where a lot

488
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: of years bouncing around in the business and I've never

489
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Speaker 2: ever ever heard one cross word. So the best of

490
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Speaker 2: his his family tonight absolutely rest in peak. Brother, Yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: We're live in the tyrag dot com studios. That is

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Speaker 2: he from Salama Mark Whelard. Okay, I think everything you

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Speaker 2: just said. You know, we were talking about the teams

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Speaker 2: that might move on from quarterbacks, the teams that should

495
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: move on from quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I brought up the Cardinals and the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at these Daniel Jones and Kyler Murray contract numbers.

498
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will make thirty five point this year. The

499
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: dead cap is sixty nine point three, but the dead

500
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: cap goes down to twenty two next year. Kyler Murray

501
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: the dead cap this year eighty one eighty one point

502
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: five million dollars, goes down to thirty three point two

503
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: the following year. But there are further guarantees for Murray

504
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: in a deal that on the surface goes all the

505
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: way through through not two through twenty twenty eight. Not

506
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent until twenty twenty nine. Obviously you

507
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: could get out of that, but one one hundred and

508
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: three point three million dollars guaranteed a signing for Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: I think the Giants know they messed up. Oh, I

510
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: think and I think that that allows them to go

511
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Speaker 2: ahead and play him at the start of this year,

512
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Speaker 2: but also draft to QB and do that thing that

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Speaker 2: teams do. Oh no, this is Daniel Jones team and

514
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then when you're two and five, oh,

515
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: let's take a look at the young guy. And then

516
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: he comes in and and a transition is underway. I

517
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: don't know if the Cardinals even know. I never know

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Speaker 2: what the Cardinals know. That's been my whole life, except

519
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 2: for the year that Kurt Warner took them to the

520
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and you're like, what what's.

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Speaker 1: Going on here? Outside of that?

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals traditionally one of the biggest head in the

523
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Speaker 2: sand organizations in all of sports, and and I don't

524
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they know Ephraim.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's evident that they don't know. Because when

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00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: they were negotiating for his new contract two years ago,

528
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: now they the language in the contract told you everything

529
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Speaker 3: you needed to know about the player, and they still

530
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Speaker 3: number one. They apologize for the language and then and

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Speaker 3: then they gave them the money.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this is the weirdest story for people who don't

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Speaker 2: know what you're talking about it. I think it might

534
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: have been the weirdest story I've ever heard in my career.

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Speaker 2: For for for for that to get out the language,

536
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: which like it it forced certain study time and and

537
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: and just was I mean, it was embarrassing.

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: It was like, we're not going to give you this

539
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: money unless you agree to study film.

540
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: To look at your iPad and we're going to track.

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Speaker 3: And play video games while you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: You weren't talking about red flags. You can't be on

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Speaker 1: mad and mobile. That doesn't count. This is that was

544
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Speaker 1: out of control.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even But people were mad at them for

546
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Speaker 3: doing that, And I'm like, don't be mad at them,

547
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: be mad at him, Like what are we doing?

548
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: But the comedy of Airrors is hilarious, Like start with,

549
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: you felt the need to write that down.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That should have been it.

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Speaker 3: You talked about it in a room, talked about you

552
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: talked about it in the room with people making decisions, right,

553
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: and you said, let's put that into ana.

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Let's do this, like we should do this. That sounds

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: like a good idea. Then then you then you let

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Speaker 1: it out.

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Then you let other people know that you did that,

558
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: and then you apologized.

559
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: For it to Kyler Murray, and then.

560
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Then you went ahead and did it and and and

561
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Speaker 2: continue to employ him as your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Number one, I think it's too small, all right. Number two,

563
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Speaker 3: I don't think the game is important enough to him.

564
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Speaker 3: So I think when you're when you're when you're dedicating

565
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: that type of money in salary cap space at that position,

566
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Speaker 3: you have to have someone who's all in. If not,

567
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, it does not work. And those signs

568
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: were were evident prior to them signing that contract with him.

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Speaker 3: So you got to remember they didn't have to sign

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Speaker 3: him to that contract.

571
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Speaker 1: When they did. Did not have to do that.

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00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: They did not have to do that. And so when

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00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: you jump the gun and you jump over these red

574
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: flags and don't allow a young player to correct those behaviors,

575
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Speaker 3: then you get what you get.

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Speaker 1: Man, they got the fourth pick.

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Speaker 3: You gotta move off of it, or you gotta bring

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Speaker 3: him in for at least a year. Are two years

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Speaker 3: and let whoever you pick learn how to be a pro,

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Speaker 3: not necessarily by play from Kyler Murray, but by everything

581
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Speaker 3: else that goes with it, and it would bode well

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Speaker 3: for them in the long run. Because right now they

583
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: have to start thinking about playing the long game because

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Speaker 3: their short.

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Speaker 1: Game is not possible based on the dead cap. Hits. Uh,

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00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair.

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00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: However, I'm looking at NFL dot com and their quote

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00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: biggest needs for the Cardinals with the fourth pick. Wait,

589
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: do you hear this list? It's I mean, it's hilarious.

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: We'll let you in on that next. Plus, I can

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Speaker 2: tell by the way you and I were feeling during

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Speaker 2: Steve de Segur's time, we we we should discuss the

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Western Conference in the NBA. We should we we should

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Speaker 2: discuss that. So we'll do that by the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour as well. That's here from Salama Mark Willard,

596
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Speaker 2: and this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's he from Salama, Mark Willard, Tyrack dot com Studios.

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Speaker 2: Just to pay off what we mentioned. Yeah, NFL dot

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Speaker 2: Com Cardinals' biggest needs wide receiver, defensive tackle, interior offensive lineman,

601
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: edge rusher, and cornerback.

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00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: Like you could list them all. I mean they need

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Speaker 1: all those two.

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00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, and a running back and linebackers and

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Did we get them all? I think we

606
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: got all the I think we got them.

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Speaker 3: What happens when you you make poor decisions, especially at

608
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Speaker 3: the quarterback position, you set your team back and you

609
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: set your ability to get better back. And we're in

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Speaker 3: that type of situation here where we're going to see

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00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 3: it for the for for the Giants, and we're seeing

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00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: it for Arizona when they didn't have to think about

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Speaker 3: if they would have waited to do that, uh Kyler

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00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Murray contract. Whether I know he was talking about holding

615
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: out and all of that. Yeah, but you can't. That's

616
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: the thing with the NFL. You can hold out, but

617
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: it's going to cost you the money. Now, what didn't

618
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: happen was he didn't lead them to anything promising. So

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00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: him holding out probably has the same effect of him

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Speaker 3: when he was playing. So and I know, hindsight's twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know that right now, but based on the

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Speaker 3: red flags that you tried to circumvent by the contract,

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Speaker 3: you had to know that this was a possibility. And

624
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: that's the problem that I'm having. You don't know for sure.

625
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: But if a player is telling you who they are,

626
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: that's who they are. Young players, Hey, you gotta earn

627
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: this man. We're not gonna just give you this truck

628
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: of money. What we're gonna do is we're going to

629
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: build this team around you. We're going to give you

630
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: every advantage to be successful. We would like for you,

631
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: just like every other player on this team, to prove

632
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: your value to this organization, and then you move on

633
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: from there. Well, I'm I what do he played two

634
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: years and then the resigned? What's the point of having

635
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback scale or the rookie first round scale.

636
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: What's the point of that's five years you get to determine?

637
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: Think about it this. I got a perfect example. What

638
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 3: did Baltimore do with Lamar Jackson? Who was, oh, by

639
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: the way, in his second year the league MVP?

640
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: MVP?

641
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: He played all five of his first years on a

642
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: rookie deal? Am I wrong?

643
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Nope? So you mean to tell me.

644
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray after his second year was a better football

645
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: player and leader than Lamar Jackson. Make it make sense,

646
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: marking Man, Make it make sense, Cardinals. There's no way

647
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: I give him that money knowing that he didn't even

648
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: study film? Are you what Lamar Jackson was?

649
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 7: As Lamar Jackson was the league MVP, yep, he still

650
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 7: had to play for three more years on a rookie deal.

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Speaker 2: Some organizations are good and some organizations are crash, some

652
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: are not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I concur with everything that you're saying.

654
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Speaker 2: How about this with regard to our conversation with started

655
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: with Justin Fields. We just got hit up on Twitter

656
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: two weeks to case. Thank you for listening, appreciated, says

657
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: how many ten and twenty eight quarterbacks with a forty

658
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: six QBR have been defended this profusely?

659
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: We're well hold on here, he says.

660
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Trubisky took the Bears to the playoffs twice with Matt Naggy.

661
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: This is crazy. Now here's where my mind goes. And

662
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: I'll admit that this might be a weakness of mine.

663
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: I get all party triggered when this point gets made,

664
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: and this is you don't get to do this. Circumstances

665
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 2: either exist or they don't. You cannot have it both ways.

666
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: I will I refuse if we're just going to tag

667
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: a record and a stat and go, well, that's the player.

668
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: So he's ten and twenty eight forty six QBR, that's

669
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: the player. Move on, Well, then all my brock purtiness

670
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: is going to respond. Then you better do it in

671
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: the other direction as well. That guy's lost like five

672
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: football games in his life. Apparently he's the best player

673
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: who's ever lived. Or are their circumstances that exist, you

674
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Oh yeah, So I think that's

675
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: part of what you're saying, and I'm saying with Justin Fields,

676
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: he not perfect.

677
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: No, we don't feel the need to defend him. The

678
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: talent is there, what are you trying to do to

679
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: cultivate it? He has not been given what he needs,

680
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: that's for sure. All right.

681
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: We get into the Western Conference of the NBA next

682
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Well, a Laker fan and a

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Speaker 2: Warrior fan walk into a bar. I don't know, it

684
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685
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690
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Speaker 2: not my opic. I'm really not. We're not gonna sit

691
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: here and have conversation about the Western Conference in the

692
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: NBA and go trade barbs over the nine and the

693
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: ten seed, like, that's not what this is all about. However,

694
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: the reason you're still getting as much content as you

695
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 2: do with regard to those two teams is twofold. One

696
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: of them is that both of those teams house the

697
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: two players that this era of NBA basketball has been

698
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: all about. That's number one. But secondarily, you look at

699
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: everything that's above them in a very crowded Western conference,

700
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: and a couple things stand out, one of which is

701
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: that there is no team that is like.

702
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: Clearly head and shoulders above the rest.

703
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: I know, the Denver Nuggets are the defending champs, and

704
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: so I'll give them the nod until noted otherwise. But

705
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: outside of them, you're largely dealing with a bunch of

706
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: teams that are incredibly talented. But until they shed the label,

707
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: and there's no way to do this other than doing it,

708
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: but until they shed the label up, well, but you've

709
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: never been there before. I think the whole thing sets

710
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: up for about as intriguing of an NBA playoff as

711
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: you can have.

712
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: We don't usually get this.

713
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: The NBA playoffs come around and we're like, we kind

714
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: of know what's gonna happen, and there'll.

715
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Be a surprise here or there or whatever.

716
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 2: But if Oklahoma City and Minnesota are gonna hang out

717
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: and strut in as the big dogs, and then Golden State.

718
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: And the Lakers and the MAVs and the Suns are.

719
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: Gonna be the little road teams trying to like do

720
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: something about it and make noise in the playoffs, that's

721
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: gonna be wild because it's completely flipped from what we

722
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: usually see.

723
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: In the NBA. Yeah it is.

724
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: And you know, just like last year, the play in tournaments,

725
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: we're exciting. The NBA playoffs, we're exciting. And so that's

726
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: what you want in the West. Currently right now you

727
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: got about six teams, you know, separated by a game

728
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 3: two games for the sixth seed, which is dope. It's great, yes, right.

729
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: It makes every game down the stretch important. It makes

730
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: it very hard for you to load, manage or do

731
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: anything like that because every game is going to matter.

732
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: The seedings are going to matter. Just watch the Lakers

733
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: lose to the Nuggets last night, and they that is

734
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: a miserable nightmare matchup for the Lakers. Anybody else in

735
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: the West I'm okay with, but that matchup, that size,

736
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: and the Lakers are a big team. They had long,

737
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: tall wing defenders. Anthony Davis could very well be Defensive

738
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: Player of the Year. But that's six ' ten seven

739
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: foot six to ten, you know, front court is and

740
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: they all can shoot. Michael Porter Jr. Did not miss

741
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: a shot last night. He was ten for ten and

742
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: five from five for three from three. He did not

743
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: miss a shot. And that is and that's I mean,

744
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: he's gotten so much better. It's so difficult to guard them.

745
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: You know, Nicol Jokich is the best player in the NBA.

746
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: He has the highest basketball IQ in the NBA, and

747
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: it looks like he's putting forth the least amount of effort.

748
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: That's how easy the game is to him.

749
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: I think he is, by the way. That's how easy

750
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: the game is, right right.

751
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: And that's saying something doesn't jump high, not gonna be

752
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: a speed but he has the ability from the center

753
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: position to control the entire basketball game in an era

754
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: where sinners don't exist. Tell me that's not the best

755
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: player in the league.

756
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I won't, I won't.

757
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is an absolute walking matchup nightmare for for

758
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: just about anyone who's I mean.

759
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Who is not well.

760
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: He has publicly stated this now this has been a

761
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: couple of years now. But when when they got knocked

762
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs two years ago by Golden State,

763
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: and it was the year that Jokic had kind of

764
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: like lost everybody around him.

765
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: Everybody was hurt, right, but he openly.

766
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: Stated he goes look as far as what the Western

767
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Conference throws at me. Defensively, Draymond Green's the one who

768
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: makes it the most different cult but he's dwarfed by

769
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: Yo Kich and I don't even know if that really

770
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: works anymore. He completely used Draymond last week when they

771
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: played each other, he had no trouble at all. And

772
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: part of that is because it's not just his size,

773
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: but it is his ability to pass the ball and

774
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: be the highest IQ player. And now he's got people

775
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: around him all over the court who are just.

776
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Knocking things down good.

777
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: And so yeah, you have to pick a poison and

778
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: on certain nights they may not give you anything they

779
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: like it's if it's all working, you're not gonna win.

780
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: And I look at their record sometimes and I'm like,

781
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: why why are you forty two and nineteen? Like why

782
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: does your record not look like the Celtics record?

783
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: You know why?

784
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: Because they wanted last year, right, and they understand how

785
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 3: long this journey is and peak at the right time,

786
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: and they don't care what seed they are outside of

787
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: the play in or anything like that.

788
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: The right, they've won six in a row, and maybe

789
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: you do the calendar flips to March and.

790
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: Turn the tables.

791
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Let's go get the one seed, because let's go get

792
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: the one seed, right, Like, maybe that is so they're

793
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: still completely the class of the West. But a few

794
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: things to say about this dynamic that you're talking about,

795
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: because I really do want to point out how different

796
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: this Western Conference playoff will be no matter how it kind.

797
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: Of shakes out.

798
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: First and foremost, Aphraim, the playing tournament is going to

799
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: be rediculous. It's gonna be it's gonna be some of

800
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: the most compelling stuff that you have ever seen in

801
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: the month of April in the NBA, because you're gonna

802
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: be talking about brands and name value, urgency, one and

803
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: done situations.

804
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: It's not just Steph and Lebron.

805
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know exactly which teams are gonna be

806
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: in it, right, Let's remember the Pelicans and Sons could

807
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: totally end up in this thing too. But look at that, right, Like,

808
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: what if the Pelicans play the Lakers, the Lakers versus

809
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: the ex Lakers, And what if it's Durant going against

810
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Steph mix In Luca and the young Sacramento Kings who

811
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: have a thing with the Warriors and played in the

812
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: playoffs last year. There's all these different matchups and one

813
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: way or another, we're gonna get like four of them,

814
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: and it's going to be the most compelling playing tournament

815
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: we've ever seen.

816
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 3: And that's what you want as a fan of the sport,

817
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: that's what you want. First part of the season, it's

818
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: just like, okay, right, come out of All Star Break.

819
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: Teams really understand the importance twenty plus games the remaining

820
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: in the season.

821
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: They go by fast.

822
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: Teams play three games a week, sometimes four games a week,

823
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: so you eat through that number really fast. In a month,

824
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: you're down to the last, you know, two weeks of

825
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: the season, and it's compelling. It's good basketball. It's no

826
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: time for load management and no time for worrying about well,

827
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: you know, we gotta get know every game For the Lakers,

828
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: every game matters, Every game matters. And in the month

829
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: of February they were nine to three, which was tremendous,

830
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: But playing against teams like you know, the Denver Nuggets

831
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: is a tough win for them. They played the Clippers

832
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: a couple days ago and we're down twenty one in

833
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and came back. Clippers do what Clippers do,

834
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: and they came back and they beat the Clippers, which

835
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: is a is they needed that the Clippers are a

836
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: dynamic playoff team. Maybe this is the year we get

837
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: to see Lakers Clippers in the playoffs. We've been waiting

838
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: for half a century. Go ahead, but you know, you know,

839
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: that's a matchup that the NBA would and NBA fans

840
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: would love to see.

841
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna get a bunch.

842
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: And yes, in some cases it might just be one game,

843
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: right if it's Lakers Warriors, if it's Warriors Kings, if

844
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: it's you know, if it's Mavericks Lakers, if Kyrie's playing Lebron,

845
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: if it's Kevin Durant against any of these dudes, the Warriors,

846
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: the Lakers, Like, you're gonna get a bunch of what

847
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: would feel like, you know, five years ago Christmas Day

848
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: marquee matchups. And so that's gonna be wonderful. And then

849
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: from it's gonna shake out. And what you're gonna get

850
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: spit out of the play in tournament. You're gonna get

851
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: the two teams that are battling now Denver, yes, could.

852
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: Be one of them.

853
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: But the Oklahoma City Minnesota thing, I can't wait to

854
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: see what they can do. I'm a real believer in

855
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. This is the point differential leader in the West.

856
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: They're the highest scoring team in the West. They're a

857
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: top five defensive team in the NBA. But like I said,

858
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: until you do it, you haven't done it. And so

859
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: for these teams that have taken this big step this year,

860
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: the fact that when they finally are like, all right,

861
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: game one on our floor, we're ready for the next step,

862
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: and they're going to look up and like either Durant

863
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: or Curry or Luca or Lebron, all right, ball up,

864
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: let's go. And so I like, it's like you said,

865
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: what the NBA does that the NFL doesn't is there's

866
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: too many windows throughout the year where we can fall

867
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: asleep and still know what's going on. And I be

868
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: able to do that for one damn second, the entire

869
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: Western Conference.

870
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: Playoffs, no, no, And that's good that's a good thing, man,

871
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: That's that's exciting.

872
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: Great thing.

873
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: The NBA wins the summer or the spring in the summer,

874
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: and you know, baseball just ramping up. Nobody's really paying

875
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: attention to one hundred and three thousand games at the

876
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: beginning of that, and you know there's no football and

877
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: the draft is you know, is it about to happen?

878
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: And then you get these dynamic matchups which every game

879
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: is this every seven game series after you get out

880
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: of the playing tournament, and so it's it's it's good

881
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: to sit back and enjoy the multiple games, three four

882
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: games a night. When the first round starts, it's that's

883
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: a great time of year for sports fans, for basketball fans.

884
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of Lebron James though there there is a quote

885
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: that was not from him, but it is definitely parenthetically

886
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 2: sort of involved with him that I want to get

887
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: to because to me, it's a little bit of a

888
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 2: of an unfair head scratcher. We'll do that coming up next.

889
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: And don't worry. Our Caleb Williams conversation is coming. There's

890
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: no question with e from Salama, Mark Willard and this

891
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we're in the tyrack dot

892
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: Com Studios. My man from Salam, I'm Mark Willard. We

893
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: work together many many, many, many many times, and so

894
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: we know each other just a bit.

895
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: And so I think you know.

896
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: A man who has many haters in the NBA, But

897
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: I am not among them. Okay, I am not a.

898
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: N Dylan you know, no Dylan Brooks.

899
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I've defended Lebron James for

900
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: all kinds of things through the years, whether you love him,

901
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: whether you hate him. I look at Lebron as a

902
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: couple of things. I think the hardest thing to do

903
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: in sports is meet the hype. I think it's the

904
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: hardest thing to do, and my god, he is exhibit

905
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: a for meeting the hype and then to be able

906
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: to do that and become a champion and also handle

907
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: yourself the way he has off the court. When the

908
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: worst thing that you have against him is you didn't

909
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: like his TV show that raised a million bucks for

910
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: the Boys and Girls Club.

911
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: If that's the worst thing you got on the guy,

912
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: you don't.

913
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: You don't have anything on the guy. So none of

914
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: this comes from that. I do just want to point

915
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: out what I feel is a little bit of an

916
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: irregularity and kind of unfortunately unfair to his own son.

917
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: We've seen this before once upon a time had a

918
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 2: conversation with a guy who went by the name of

919
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice Junior, and Jerry Rice Junior found it very

920
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: difficult in the NFL to live up to his dad's name.

921
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Imagine that.

922
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: So Bronnie has had this in front of him the

923
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: whole time, and it was always going to be next

924
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: to impossible when we know about you, when you're still

925
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: working on pimples like it's a problem.

926
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: It's just very, very difficult.

927
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: So now Rich Paul, the famous agent for the for

928
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: clutching for the whole group, has spoke publicly this week

929
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: and this weekend saying that Bronnie James draft decision will

930
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: be based on team interest.

931
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: So I'm reading and that's fine. Whatever.

932
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: His year this year at USC has not inspired confidence

933
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: that he is ready to go to the league, not

934
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: even a little bit. No observer could think that. But

935
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm reading into the article and Rich Paul says within

936
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: this entire conversation, Look, this has got nothing to do

937
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: with being a teammate of Lebron.

938
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: Quote.

939
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: Lebron wants Brownie to be his own man, and I went, oh,

940
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: come on, how how could you say that? How's that

941
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: even possible? How's it even possible? It was less than

942
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: three weeks ago that this guy's in the locker room

943
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: talking about his son and playing next to him or

944
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: even with him in the NBA. That was less than

945
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: three weeks ago. The guy's averaging five points a game

946
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: in college, and now Lebron wants Brownie to be his

947
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: own man. Well he can't. His name is Brownie and

948
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: you won't stop talking about him. I feel bad for

949
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: the kid man. I don't know how the hell he

950
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: lives up to this and through this.

951
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Look, as far as basketball, it no matter what it's

952
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: gonna it's no way anything he does basketball wise is

953
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: ever going to live up to the only person on

954
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: the planet Earth to score forty thousand points in an

955
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: NBA game and in an NBA career.

956
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: So throw that out the window.

957
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 3: As a parent, all you can hope for is your

958
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: child grows up with joy in his life that he

959
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: gets to do the thing that he loves to do

960
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: at whatever level. The difference is Lebron James is a

961
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: product of necessity and need. They didn't grow up with

962
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: anything we know his We know his story. It's the

963
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: story of so many of other athletes growing up with

964
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: deficiencies in their in their household, trauma in their households,

965
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: broken broken homes. So the necessity and the need to

966
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: rectify that situation is something that in itself is a

967
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: fuel like no other. Bronnie James is already a millionaire

968
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: based on his own nil deals that he he had

969
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: in high school. Right the need and necessity is not there.

970
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: Will he continue to play basketball at a high level?

971
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: Of course? Is he ready to go to the NBA

972
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: right now? Of course not. The better question that needs

973
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: to be asked, is I wonder where Bronnie's going to

974
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: transfer and play basketball in college next year. That's a

975
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: better question because the fact that he chose sc further

976
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: let me know that this was probably not going to

977
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: be a one and done year for m Bronnie James

978
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: needed to go to a program right where he's not

979
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: the big fish are the attention when you go to

980
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: If Bronnie James goes to, say, a school rich in

981
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: program in history.

982
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: Cancer right middle of the country, away from all of it,

983
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: no paparazzi.

984
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's say he went to Kansas.

985
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: So that would have bowled well for him because he

986
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: would have been able to not play basketball in the

987
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: same city as his father, who just so happens to

988
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: be breaking googobs of records.

989
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean literally down the street. It's literally down the

990
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: damn street.

991
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: Right, And so that amount of pressure, you can't want

992
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: it and have it both ways. You can't set something

993
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: up and then say I wish it were like this.

994
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: So I pushed back on Brownie James's basketball journey as

995
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: his own journey. Will then let him go and have

996
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: that journey on his own. You cannot do it in

997
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: the shadow of one of the greatest basketball players to

998
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: ever play, with the hype surrounding it. Bronnie James has

999
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: been making millions of dollars since he was in high school.

1000
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: He wasn't even the best player on his high school team.

1001
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: He's not the best player on the SC team. If

1002
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: he would have gone to a program, he would have

1003
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: been playing meaningful games and learning how to play basketball

1004
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: at that level by real coaches. Not to take anything

1005
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: away from SC, but they're the bottom of the Pac twelve,

1006
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: the now defunked PAC twelve.

1007
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what the hell you just said, well,

1008
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't even.

1009
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: Know, but you understand they're not going to be in

1010
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: the tournament. So Bronnie James went to a school, they

1011
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: get into the tournament, and he has a phenomenal March

1012
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: madness which happens all the time.

1013
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: Yep, right right time, right place.

1014
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: It's got four months of of college basketball, strength and eating. Well,

1015
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: he trains like a pro anyway, but he shines in

1016
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 3: March madness. Now, the conversation of what's Bronnie James's a

1017
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 3: draft stock now we can talk about. The reason they're

1018
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: talking about it now is because there will be no

1019
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: March madness for SC and Bronnie James. He's got about

1020
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: a week left of college basketball this year. That's the

1021
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: reality of it. He has about a week left of

1022
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: college basketball this year. So naturally the attention shifts to, Okay, well,

1023
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: what is he going to do for He's not even

1024
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: close to being ready for the NBA. He's not even

1025
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 3: the sixth man on a bad SC team. But I'll

1026
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: tell you this, and not just because I'm San Diego State,

1027
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: let me ask you this. If Bronnie listen for real,

1028
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 3: this is I got you. If Bronnie James goes to

1029
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: a school like San Diego State, Right, was in the

1030
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: National Championship next year?

1031
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Who will be in the tournament this year?

1032
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: Who's ranked number twenty in the country in a Mountain

1033
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 3: West division, will have six teams in the NCAA tournament. Yeah, right,

1034
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: one of the top conferences in all of college basketball, right,

1035
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: mid major, whatever you want to call it.

1036
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: It's a real deal.

1037
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: Right, It's a program and it has been a program

1038
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: since Steve Fisher took over. Now, Brian Dutcher, if he

1039
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: goes there and learns that, oh, you can't get on

1040
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: the court unless you play defense. No long time, I

1041
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: want lockdown defense. It's it's in the bylaws.

1042
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: It really is.

1043
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: And you come out and you see him playing at

1044
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: those high level games, getting into the tournament. He's, you know,

1045
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: creating turnovers, he's getting run out.

1046
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: Dunks, and he's hitting the open three.

1047
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: You're looking at him completely different at a program like

1048
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: that than you are at SC.

1049
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: It's also a perfect place to hide, perfect place to hide.

1050
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: San Diego.

1051
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: But exactly exactly, it's not Kansas. So in other words,

1052
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: if that if that family was like, we're not sending

1053
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: him to Kansas, well, then send him to San Diego.

1054
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: It takes you almost as long to get there anyway,

1055
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: the traffic, but anyway, you know what I mean. But

1056
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: point being you, you and I know San Diego it

1057
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: is the perfect place to hide. The guy could have

1058
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: walked around campus and half the people, if not most

1059
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: of them, wouldn't have.

1060
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Even known it was him.

1061
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: And and and Lebron can still get down there to

1062
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: see the games if he want, love that arena, all

1063
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Oh, by the way, should also change

1064
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: his name to Andre. That's just one other point that

1065
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to make. If his name was Andre James,

1066
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: I think this would have gone better for him. I

1067
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: really do, Bronni. I mean, what's he gonna do with that?

1068
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: And and and the points you made I think are excellent.

1069
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Was it John McEnroe that once upon a time talked

1070
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: about why his kids didn't really have the athletic success

1071
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: that he had had, and he said, because they suffer

1072
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: from affluenza?

1073
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1074
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: Pretty sure, Pretty sure that's what you're talking about. And

1075
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: and that's that's real. I mean, you already got a Ferrari. Man,

1076
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: it's hard to like when he was four, like they

1077
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: didn't get him a toy one. They're like, no, it's

1078
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: an actual Ferrari.

1079
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm pulling for him. I think he has

1080
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: a lot of talent. I think absolutely the growth is there.

1081
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: I think if we don't get our man, Steve di

1082
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: Sega on here, he's going to slam dunk on both of.

1083
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Us and change his name to Andre Hey Steve.

1084
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 6: And by the way, Bronnie James does not have to

1085
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 6: wear number six at USC Right, I'm just saying, I

1086
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 6: have to another option. If you want to go below

1087
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 6: San Diego State, you see your vines, A fine program,

1088
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 6: even more anonymous Big West conference. You can get into

1089
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 6: March Madness, et cetera, et cetera.

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Nobody going to ucavon, Come on on, get on a body.

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01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: My sister and her husband went to.

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Speaker 6: If you're actually concerning educate the team and getting to

1093
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 6: March Madness, you have two fine avenues. And it's still

1094
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 6: in southern Califoria.

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: Right.

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 6: Well, Fox TV was carrying the NASCAR event in Vegas today.

1097
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: It got within a car like but Kyle Larson scores

1098
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: his twenty fourth career win for Rick Hendrick and Chevrolet Larson.

1099
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: The winner.

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 6: Tyler Reddick finished second. Larson led one hundred and eighty

1101
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 6: one laps out of the two sixty seven. Next Sunday

1102
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 6: at Phoenix, also on Fox TV. As for the NBA

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01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 6: Late Game, it starts up in just a few minutes

1104
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 6: Phoenix hosting Oklahoma City. Everything else is final in the

1105
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 6: legas San Antonio has picked up a victory over Indiana

1106
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 6: one seventeen one oh five. Spurs record was twelve and

1107
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 6: forty eight until tonight. Victor Wembin Yama he might win

1108
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year. Guys, just you wait. Thirty one

1109
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 6: points in thirty one minutes, twelve rebounds, six six and

1110
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 6: six blocks. New York won at Cleveland tonight one oh

1111
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 6: seven to ninety eight. Jalen Brunst and the next left

1112
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 6: early with a sore knee. Josh Hart at a triple

1113
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: double including nineteen rebounds. Victories for Orlando and Toronto, wins

1114
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 6: for Philadelphia and Boston. The Celtics have won eleven straight.

1115
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 6: They pounded Golden State one forty to eighty eight. Steph

1116
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 6: Curry from three point range was zero for nine, had

1117
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 6: four points in the game at halftime. The Warriors today

1118
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 6: trailed eighty two to thirty eight. Mid third quarter. It

1119
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 6: was one oh two to fifty. Boston settled for this

1120
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 6: win of one to eighty eight. Clippers won in Boston

1121
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 6: set a league record. It's the third time this season

1122
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 6: they've won a game by fifty, just for the record. So, yeah,

1123
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 6: they might be winning the East this year. Not the

1124
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 6: first year we've said they're good.

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 6: It's kind of what you said in a previous segment.

1127
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 6: Tonight we got to see it, but yeah, it's looking good.

1128
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 6: Clippers won eighty nine eighty eight at Minnesota, an impressive

1129
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 6: win when they didn't shoot well except for Kawhi Leonard,

1130
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 6: who had thirty two points. James Harden was oh of

1131
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 6: ten from the floor but had ten assists, one turnover,

1132
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 6: and the Clippers won the game. They're up to thirty

1133
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 6: nine and twenty forty two wins. Still for Minnesota, doesn't

1134
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 6: matter because they're gonna Clipper.

1135
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: Clippers are gonna do Clipper things.

1136
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 6: Apparently you saw the last Clipper game before this one.

1137
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 6: In college hoops, number three, Connecticut clinch the Big East

1138
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 6: speed seedon haul ninety one sixty one, Yukon went sixteen,

1139
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 6: and Ozero at home. Big ten victories for Nebraska, Indiana,

1140
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 6: and Ohio State Today in women's soops, number six Iowa

1141
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 6: beat number two ranked Ohio State ninety three eighty three.

1142
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 6: Caven Clark thirty five points in her last regular season

1143
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 6: home game at Iowa. Among the six NHL games Arizona

1144
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 6: and La with wins today, Winnipeg has just won five

1145
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: to two at Buffalo. US women's soccer is playing tonight

1146
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles and leading three nothing in the fifty

1147
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 6: fifth minute against Columbia. This ends this weekend's quarterfinals of

1148
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 6: the New Women's Gold Cup tournament. There was a tennis

1149
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 6: exhibition in Las Vegas. Carlos Alcarez edged Rafael Nadal in

1150
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 6: a tiebreak fourteen to twelve in the second set. And guys,

1151
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 6: the NCAA record softball winning streak is over number one Oklahoma,

1152
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 6: which had won seventy one straight games, lost in extra

1153
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 6: innings at home against Louisiana, which entered with a record

1154
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 6: of nine and twelve. This is the Sooners team that's

1155
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 6: won three straight national titles. During the win streak, over

1156
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 6: half of those seventy one straight wins came by shutout,

1157
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 6: and they lost in extra frames today.

1158
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: Back to you, Steve, great stuff.

1159
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: By the way, you know he's talking about Victor wimbin Yama,

1160
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: who just turned twenty last month.

1161
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: Hey man, bro.

1162
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: Twenty point seven points per game, ten point two rebounds

1163
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: per game, three point four assists per game. He just

1164
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: turned twenty seven foot four and he won wait for it,

1165
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: nine pounds more than me. Okay, I'm going to see

1166
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: him next Saturday. They're coming to town. And I actually

1167
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: teach a journalism class at my alma mater, Cal Pauly

1168
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: San Luis Obispo. And every year we have or whenever

1169
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: I teach the class, we have a game and the

1170
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: students come and do a whole mock thing and do

1171
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: a story on the game and some video, and they

1172
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: probably annoy Steve Kerr and ask him some questions the

1173
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: pressure and all that. We're doing that this Saturday, and

1174
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: Victor wim ben Yama is the opponent. I can't wait

1175
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: to I can't wait to see this in personally. It's

1176
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: going to be breathtaking. My god.

1177
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: I just I was watching that game and just just

1178
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: watching him play. Oh my goodness, gracious man, this kid

1179
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: is going to be well, he's already special, but.

1180
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: He's when he has his grown man strength.

1181
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god, exactly exactly. He's doing it right now,

1182
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: but he doesn't have a butt yet.

1183
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: Remember when Yannis came into the league. Oh my god,

1184
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: remember Janni's was all shoulders and kneecaps.

1185
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you just said body parts like heading in

1186
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: different directions at different times.

1187
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: Now, that's not supposed to happen like that.

1188
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: Now, when Yannis dribbles down the court and gets to

1189
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 3: the dotted line, he's just in the air and there's

1190
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: nothing you can He's dunking the basketball without him really

1191
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: jumping off the ground. Imagine Victor women Yama in three

1192
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 3: years with three years of size at the ripe age

1193
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: of twenty three, twenty four years old. Yeah, and he

1194
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: is just putting people into the rim left and right.

1195
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: Man, he gonna rebound the ball. He got to get

1196
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: to the Lakers dribble twice. We got to get him

1197
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: to the Lakers and dunk.

1198
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: Why do you, by the way, what is it about? No,

1199
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: but just listen to me. Listen to me. It's not

1200
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: that it's not that I have no problem. Like I

1201
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: get it. Every fan base, they're like, oh, they're my opic,

1202
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: that we're all myopic. Every fan base is annoying and myopic.

1203
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: But what is it about the Laker fan base that

1204
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: whenever they see a player they like it's automatic, there's

1205
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,480
Speaker 2: like an expectation of birthright.

1206
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 3: And we do the whole hashtag future Lakers because everybody

1207
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: wants to go there. That I mean that we didn't

1208
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: make that up. No, but there didn't make it up. Well,

1209
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: hang on, I'll give you an example.

1210
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,440
Speaker 2: Y'all did this because of the obvious ties to the organization.

1211
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: Y'all did this to Klay Thompson for fifteen years.

1212
01:11:50,920 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet were for you doing fine, but nod it.

1213
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: And maybe not fifteen years.

1214
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 2: I don't think he's been in the league for fifteen

1215
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: But you did this for Klay Thompson for ten years now.

1216
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: And Klay Thompson wants to be a Warrior, like he

1217
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: has no interest in playing for any other organization.

1218
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: You know why.

1219
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people you know stayed in Milwaukee.

1220
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: You know what you know, he stayed in Wisconsinty for him. Listen,

1221
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: do you know why Clay wants to stay a Warrior? Well,

1222
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: he for the majority of the career was because they

1223
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 2: were winning champions.

1224
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 3: They it's easy to stay around. Okay, I don't think

1225
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: that San Antonio Spurs are going to be able to

1226
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: put enough around him for him to win championships in

1227
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 3: San Antonio. But that's not a desirable destination for free agency.

1228
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: I just want to throw that out there.

1229
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: But guys usually wait too long to sort of wake up.

1230
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: And do that.

1231
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: No, Jan Lillard didn't Dame Lillard stayed in Portland until

1232
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 2: well after his thirtieth birthday.

1233
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: I think that's a cautionary tale. And you know, lou

1234
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 3: All Cinder didn't Wilt Chamberlain like they were like, hey man, we.

1235
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: Got to get to LA. We got to get to

1236
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: l A. Yeah. I wonder about this kid. We don't

1237
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: know him yet. Now. I don't know what makes them tick,

1238
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, don't know anything about him.

1239
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1240
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to see tyreq dot com Studios.

1241
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: Glad you're with us.

1242
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of LA teams, I got a question for you

1243
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: about one of the LA teams. I don't see if

1244
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: you agree with something that I'm kind of feeling as

1245
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: they get ready to go on their journey. We'll do

1246
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: that coming up next Top of the Hour, Caleb Williams.

1247
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: We're going to dive into this a little bit deeper.

1248
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: That is, he from Salama, Mark Witherard is Fox Sports Radio,

1249
01:13:52,680 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: Okay Live, Tyreg dot Com Studios, Mark with Ay from Slam.

1250
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Speaker 2: You you were an athlete at a very high level,

1251
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: so I bet you welcome this kind of stuff. Maybe

1252
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 2: it's just things that media and fans go, oh, you don't,

1253
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 2: you don't want that, and it's like, yeah, you do.

1254
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 2: You you want expectations.

1255
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: You you you.

1256
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Want to meet very very lofty goals. You're not scared

1257
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: of that. I get that. But I do wonder this

1258
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: year about the Los Angeles Dodgers, because for me, it's

1259
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: not just expectations. Those have been there the whole time.

1260
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: Those have been there for a decade plus already, where

1261
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: it's kind of a world series or bust mentality. And

1262
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: as soon as the Dodgers fall out of the playoffs,

1263
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Bill Plashki is there with the column the very next

1264
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: day with how this is an embarrassing disaster, and right

1265
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: and then and then you know, whatever, everything's fine. And

1266
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: then you know, you come back as the big favorite

1267
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: again the next year and win the West and we

1268
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: get the cadence of the whole thing.

1269
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: So well, that's fine, but this one's different.

1270
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Dodgers know or if they care

1271
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: about how this set of expectations is different, not just

1272
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: because of the high profile nature of Otani and to

1273
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: a lesser degree, Yamamoto. It's not just that, but in

1274
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: an off season that has now I think, for a

1275
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: lot of teams and certainly the most high powered agent

1276
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: out there, it has now been defined by the offers

1277
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: that players are not getting. Blake Snell still sitting there, TikTok, TikTok.

1278
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: It is six point fifty in the West on March third,

1279
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: Cy Young Award winner just sitting there. So the definition

1280
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 2: of the whole thing is these guys not getting their deals,

1281
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: and largely it is because teams have really started to

1282
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: crack down and focus on the luxury tax penalties in

1283
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, and the Dodgers, in a very legal way,

1284
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: just completely circumvented the entire system with the way that

1285
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 2: show Hey, Otani, and maybe it's actually on him more

1286
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: than the Dodgers. The reports suggest that this was his idea.

1287
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: But because of that, it feels two teams and fans

1288
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: around the nation like they're sitting there in a league

1289
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: of their own with the way that they structured this

1290
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1291
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it it gives you the opportunity to spend over

1292
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: a billion plus on a couple guys that add value

1293
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 3: and and and juice to your team.

1294
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: Yep. Now, all players aren't gonna go for that.

1295
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: They're gonna like, hey, nah man, we not need You're

1296
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Speaker 3: not gonna be holding on to none of his money now, right,

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Speaker 3: But show Hay is a different breed. And the Dodgers,

1298
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, they're really just taking the book out of

1299
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: the old Yankees playbook.

1300
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: Right, we'll pay I guess hey to play. But luxury

1301
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: tax penalties didn't exist back.

1302
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Speaker 1: Then, I know.

1303
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: And look, do you know what I mean the way

1304
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: they're able to circumvent that now, language is language. When

1305
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: you put it in the rules, it's within the rules.

1306
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: So but you know, you gotta be savvy as a businessman,

1307
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: and you know, one of their owners is a pretty

1308
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: savvy businessman. Not that he's making decisions based on you know,

1309
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: personnel or anything like that, but.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, here's what I guess. I really wonder.

1311
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: I wonder what the other players think about what show

1312
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: hail Tani did.

1313
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: Some are like, okay, we get it, and then others

1314
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 3: like you stupid as hell?

1315
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean I but not just stupid as hell? But

1316
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: did you kind of ruin this?

1317
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: Like like, does Blake Snell think show a Hootani kind

1318
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: of whipped his legs out from underneath him.

1319
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because look, we know Snell

1320
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 3: is gonna get paid.

1321
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: Not a lot.

1322
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 3: Well the other two what's not a lot less? Is

1323
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: he gonna make seven hundred million dollars? Probably not? Was

1324
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: he gonna make that before show?

1325
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Hey gout that? Probably not? No?

1326
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: But but he's not even gonna make a hundred and

1327
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: I think he thought he was gonna make two hundred

1328
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: Like the other two Boars clients that have signed have

1329
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: both done the three year with constant opt outs deals.

1330
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: Bellinger to the Cubs and Matt Shopman to the Giants.

1331
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: They're they're essentially they're they're rich deals twenty twenty five

1332
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: million one year. Like these guys thought they were gonna

1333
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: make a hundred, one hundred and fifty Cody Bellinger thought

1334
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: he was gonna make two hundred twenty million dollars. So

1335
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, I'm not worried about him

1336
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 2: going to the grocery store.

1337
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: You make you make twenty five million for a year,

1338
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 3: you opt out, you go get another whatever you're gonna

1339
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: go get opposed to a ten year, three hundred million

1340
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: dollar deal. Right, So if you were making twenty five

1341
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: million dollars for ten.

1342
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: Years, what would that be? That would be two one

1343
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars.

1344
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, if you just

1345
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 3: said I'm doing one plus one right, one year with

1346
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: the player option or whatever that is, and the starting

1347
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: price is thirty million, right.

1348
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: But you're looking at a thirty year old player whose

1349
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: arm could fall off, And well that's true.

1350
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 3: Now, depending on your age, you got to structure these

1351
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: deals a little bit different. But everything comes to a

1352
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: head when money starts being paid out like this. It's

1353
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 3: about to happen in the in the NFL, It's definitely

1354
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: happening in the NBA.

1355
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: So we'll pick this up, you know, the last Yeah,

1356
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:01,440
Speaker 1: we'll revisit.

1357
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: It, absolutely, and we'll get into Caleb Williams coming up

1358
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: next as well right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1359
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: Are you a subscriber to that theory that.

1360
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: You're supposed to trust your gut like just you know,

1361
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 2: and I don't mean when it's like I think in

1362
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: and out tonight.

1363
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: No, I mean, like, just trust.

1364
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: That kind of when you have a feeling and you're

1365
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: not even one hundred percent sure, why are you supposed

1366
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 2: to trust that?

1367
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1368
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, because I got a feeling and I haven't been

1369
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 2: able to shake it, and maybe you could actually put

1370
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: some definition to it.

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01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,480
Speaker 3: Don't do bangs, Okay, They're not going to work for you.

1372
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 2: No, man, I'm working on as big of a forehead

1373
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: as I as I can go for.

1374
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: Man, that's my goal.

1375
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,719
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1379
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: can't shake it. I don't have anything where where anybody's

1380
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: been sort of caught. I can't tell you exactly what

1381
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: it is. I just have a feeling that I wouldn't

1382
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: want Caleb Williams on my football team, which which sounds ridiculous.

1383
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest prospects in the last decade.

1384
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, what it like like? Do

1385
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: you share any of this? I do? Okay, let me

1386
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: ask you a question, Yeah, go ahead, him or is

1387
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: it his dad?

1388
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's it depends on who's making these decisions. Some

1389
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: of this stuff is unsubstantiated, but there were rumors that, like, right,

1390
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: remember when he would supposedly wanted an ownership.

1391
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 3: Piece Yeah, oh yeah of the team, which said crazy

1392
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: because there is a collective bargaining agreement.

1393
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: Right, So start with the whole like, you can't do that,

1394
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: and then go from there.

1395
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 3: Also, you haven't played a down a down in the

1396
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:29,520
Speaker 3: National Football League. There have been tremendous Heisman winning quarterbacks

1397
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: to flame out busts of the NFL time. So this

1398
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 3: notion that, Okay, I'll tell you a story, go ahead.

1399
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight, I was a draft pick by

1400
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons. That was the seventh round draft pick.

1401
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 3: And the same year Peyton Manning was the first big

1402
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 3: in the draft. And we were all sitting at the

1403
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: Rookie Symposium in Denver, Colorado, and Chris Carter, Hall of

1404
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: Fame receiver, who was still playing at the time for

1405
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, came up and and and and talked

1406
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: to us about expectations and the league and and and

1407
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 3: all of those things. And he said one thing it

1408
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,480
Speaker 3: always remembered, and I try to impart this on younger players.

1409
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: He said, all of you guys are amazing. You guys

1410
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 3: did it your dream. You've gotten drafted, and it was

1411
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: only for drafted players. It wasn't for you know, free

1412
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: agent rookies or anything. You guys are special. You guys

1413
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: got drafted. No matter what round you got drafted in

1414
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: somebody you know felt that you guys deserve to be

1415
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: picked and be a part of an organization. What I

1416
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: want you guys to understand is the NFL doesn't need you.

1417
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 3: Whether you play ten years or you don't play a game,

1418
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:09,839
Speaker 3: The NFL doesn't need you, Peyton Manning, the NFL doesn't

1419
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 3: need you. Whether you play a game or not. The

1420
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,919
Speaker 3: NFL will be fine. They will continue to go, continue

1421
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: to play games with or without you, And as long

1422
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 3: as you keep that in mind, you guys will be okay.

1423
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: And that was probably one of the reallest things anybody

1424
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 3: had ever said, because what that does is it makes

1425
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: you check your ego at the door. No matter how

1426
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: good you are or think you are, the league will

1427
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: continue to go. So Tom Brady retired last year. It's

1428
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play, if not

1429
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 3: the greatestd the NFL play this year? Was there a

1430
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,480
Speaker 3: playoffs and a super Bowl? And other the dynamic stories

1431
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: that happen to surface.

1432
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: This year. I'd like to forget some of them.

1433
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: But yes, right, yes, Do the brock parties exist in

1434
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 3: the league. Do the Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey to the

1435
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: Taylor Swifts? Yeah?

1436
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Right? C J.

1437
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: Stroud? Are those stories relevant and prevalent to the NFL?

1438
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 3: Incredible without Tom Brady there So this notion of a

1439
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 3: young college kid who hasn't done anything of value in

1440
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: the NFL feeling like he needs to have ownership of

1441
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: the team in order to play. There are he's not

1442
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 3: going to go somewhere? Are he has some type of

1443
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 3: control over the situation? And I get they're probably trying

1444
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 3: to orchestrate the Archie Manning Eli Manning situation that I

1445
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: don't think teams are going to go for ever. Again,

1446
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 3: that's the problem that I have, because you haven't shown

1447
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 3: that you're even worth it.

1448
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: To make demands like that.

1449
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: How do you go to the combine and not get

1450
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 3: checked out medically at the bare minimum at the least.

1451
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: Right, what like what what what is that?

1452
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: So this is this is the problem I have. And

1453
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: I was at the Combine. I got invited. I was

1454
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: one of the three hundred playoffs. You know, a blessed

1455
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 3: enough to be one of the three hundred players invited

1456
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 3: to the combine.

1457
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: When you.

1458
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 3: Like, teams are spending millions of dollars on you and

1459
01:26:54,720 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: they want to know exactly your history in terms of injuries.

1460
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 3: You played a lot of college football, a lot of

1461
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 3: high school football, pop worn or something they want to like.

1462
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 3: I was at the Combine at the hospital for four

1463
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 3: hours getting an X ray on my wrist that I

1464
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 3: broke in the tenth grade. I was fourteen years, thirteen

1465
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: years old. But because I broke my wrisk when I

1466
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: was a child, they wanted to look at my risks

1467
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: and make sure it's set and it healed it right.

1468
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: So for you to be like, no, we're not doing

1469
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: any of that, to me, it just seems like you're

1470
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 3: not focused on the right thing, and that's to get

1471
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 3: into the league and then give your yourself a chance

1472
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: to become an NFL player. You don't become an NFL

1473
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: player until you have two years in three games, which

1474
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: is three years. You don't become an NFL player until

1475
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: then on an active roster. So before you even get

1476
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 3: to that point, someone who went through all of this

1477
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: and had a phenomenal rookie season which started off my

1478
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 3: thirteen year career, I kind of frown when it comes

1479
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 3: to a player who feels all the rules are beneath him.

1480
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: That's a tough guy to be in the locker room with.

1481
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just and it's funny because I don't even

1482
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 2: know where that came from.

1483
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: It's not like he set it into a microphone.

1484
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: I'd like, ownership of a team?

1485
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: Is that from his dad? Is it not even true?

1486
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 2: But you start to compile the list, it's like I

1487
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: could blow that off. Maybe that was just some wild

1488
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: thing somebody said. And then you know, you lose a

1489
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: big college game and you're crying in your parents' arms

1490
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: and too, I like, that's I don't know what the

1491
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: nature of that is. I know it bothered some people.

1492
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I could even look at certain sort of scouts, draft evaluators.

1493
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: Merrill Hodge has been kind of good at this, and

1494
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: he torched Caleb Williams.

1495
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: And Greg Cosell.

1496
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: Is Like, I've got concerns like people who maybe they're wrong,

1497
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: but maybe they've got a point.

1498
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Then you get to the combine and.

1499
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm not even gonna let you look at me,

1500
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 2: and so right, I could blow one off, I can

1501
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 2: blow two off. You start getting a list four, five,

1502
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: six things that are a turnoff that suggests, as you

1503
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: very well just laid out the idea that you think

1504
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 2: you're here before you're here, there's an order to things. Listen,

1505
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 2: I tell you I got my own and very brief

1506
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: story about this. I obviously didn't play in the league,

1507
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: but I was at the Super Bowl one year and

1508
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 2: I spoke to Lee Steinberg. Lee Steinberg, at the time

1509
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: was an agent of a quarterback. It was about who

1510
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 2: had just been drafted the year before, and as it

1511
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: turns out, this player was a first round draft pick

1512
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:29,879
Speaker 2: had a relatively brief NFL career at the quarterback position.

1513
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: And what Lee confided in me and said was, what

1514
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: you have here is something that went out of order

1515
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: prior to even being drafted. We were worried about commercials,

1516
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: we were worried about parties, we were worried about who

1517
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: we were going to be seen with. And I tried

1518
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: to explain to this player that you needed to go

1519
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: play football, and then all of that stuff will come.

1520
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: Play football, that's first.

1521
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 2: Then all of these other goals will fall into place

1522
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 2: and you don't need to worry.

1523
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: But you can't do it out of order.

1524
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 2: Now that Super Bowl I attended and I spoke to

1525
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Lee was well before Patrick Mahomes was a thought in

1526
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 2: any of our heads. But if you then I never

1527
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 2: forgot this because who's Patrick Mahomes agent Lee Steinberg, And

1528
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 2: I never forgot in watching Patrick come into the league

1529
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: which order things went in. He wouldn't even do a

1530
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: damn Cheerios commercial. He was like, no, we're playing football

1531
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna worry about endorsements and all the rest.

1532
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: And look at this career. Look at this career that

1533
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: we're watching right now.

1534
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: You can get it. It'll come. You can get it,

1535
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 3: or you could take the Baker Mayfield route. He had

1536
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 3: more commercials than anybody. He's been on more teams in

1537
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: the last three years than anybody.

1538
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: Four teams, and is currently.

1539
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 3: A free agent again, so there's an order to this.

1540
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 3: The one thing professional sports doesn't care about is your

1541
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: off the field or off the court.

1542
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Life can care less.

1543
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 3: If you don't perform or treated like it's a real

1544
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 3: job and not what it's going to get you, then

1545
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 3: you cannot sustain and survive. I'm telling you you can't.

1546
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 3: As someone who played over a decade in one of

1547
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 3: the most competitive leagues on the planet Earth, it's impossible

1548
01:32:53,560 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 3: to focus on the other and make it any length

1549
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 3: of time in professional sports, it doesn't work that way.

1550
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 3: You worried about ownership, you worried about all of these things,

1551
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 3: and you may not even pan out to be good.

1552
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to wish anything on this young man,

1553
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: because I think he's you know, you've earned the right

1554
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 3: to have an opportunity to play in the NFL. Let's

1555
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,799
Speaker 3: not muddy the water before you even get there. Let's

1556
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 3: get there and just look at c J. Stroud Man.

1557
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 3: All the attention was on Bryce Young. Everybody was talking

1558
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 3: about Bryce Young, and all CJ. Stroud do was broke

1559
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 3: every NFL rookie passing record that a quarterback can have

1560
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 3: and go to the take a team that was a

1561
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: dumpster fire for the last five years and take them

1562
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 3: to the playoff and win a playoff game.

1563
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Tough to do.

1564
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: So that leads to the big question with regard to

1565
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, which we will ask coming up next. Reminder,

1566
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, podcast is going to go up,

1567
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: So if you missed any of today's show, be sure

1568
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 2: to check it out in.

1569
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: The podcast form.

1570
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.

1571
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,840
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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

1573
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: and poof, you're going to see this show post right

1574
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: after we get off the air. But we are not

1575
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 2: done yet with E from Salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports

1576
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Radio Live Innetiere rag dot com Studios.

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01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: That is E from Salama Mark Willard. All right, so.

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01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 2: For those just joining us recapping it a little bit,

1579
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to go so far as to just

1580
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 2: be like I'm out on Caleb Williams, but I'm kind

1581
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 2: of out on Caleb Williams, Like I don't I don't

1582
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 2: think i'd want him on my team. I've got all

1583
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: kinds of concerns and they're not the type of I'm

1584
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: sitting down and I've broken down the film and he

1585
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 2: puts his right leg in the wrong spot when he plans.

1586
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: Oh god, stop all that stuff.

1587
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Like I just I get a sick feeling when I

1588
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: see and hear all of the stuff around Caleb, and

1589
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 2: then you took it a step further and broke down

1590
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: everything it takes to be in this league.

1591
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: And what an incredible red flag this is.

1592
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 2: That said, neither you nor I are suggesting that this

1593
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: isn't a hell of a prospect who can do some things.

1594
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 1: So would you would you not? If you would win?

1595
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: Look, there's no question about his talent based on what

1596
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 3: we've seen him do, right, he's a dynamic talent. Now

1597
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 3: probably would have bowled well for him to if he

1598
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 3: could have leave last year, yep, would have probably been

1599
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 3: better for him coming off you know, forty five hundred

1600
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 3: yards passing and forty two touchdowns five interceptions. I mean,

1601
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 3: that's unreal. He just was on he wasn't on a

1602
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 3: very good team, and this year the team was worse.

1603
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 3: They played no defense, and they just happened to run

1604
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 3: into a Pac twelve conference that was on its last

1605
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: year and it was stacked. It was probably one of

1606
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 3: the toughest leagues in the country. Out of nowhere with

1607
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: Pennix and Knicks and himself the young man from Utah

1608
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 3: who got hurt like I mean, you want to talk

1609
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: about a league with you know, first round draft pick quarterbacks.

1610
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: The Pac twelve and it's last year had him, and

1611
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 3: so this was the wrong year to show up to

1612
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 3: the party without a defense. But that's a Lincoln Riley thing, right, Yes,

1613
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna outscore you. It's just what it what, it's

1614
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: what comes with it. But you know, seeing his numbers drive.

1615
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 3: His completion percentage was higher, but his numbers dropped down

1616
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 3: a little bit, only thirty touchdowns to five interceptions, which

1617
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: is good. He still takes care of the ball. But

1618
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 3: what you you got to realize, man, is none of

1619
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 3: this is going to matter. And two months, nothing you've

1620
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 3: done in your heisman won't matter. None of that will matter.

1621
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: In a few months when you make the leap. Someone

1622
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 3: is going to draft him. Some team is clamoring and

1623
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 3: hoping Chicago doesn't pick him first. Are clamoring and hoping

1624
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 3: they can they can move up in the draft and

1625
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 3: take them because I do believe he's a talent, and

1626
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 3: I think he has a talent that can really change

1627
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 3: it to directory of a defunct team. But he can't

1628
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 3: do it himself. So what he should be worried about

1629
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 3: is going to the right situation in terms of are

1630
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: you willing to put a team around him? And like

1631
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,879
Speaker 3: I said, I keep harkening back to the Houston Texans

1632
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 3: and what they did and drafting TANKDLL in the third round,

1633
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,959
Speaker 3: and they they did. They had the offensive and defensive

1634
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 3: rookie of the year and should have had the coach

1635
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:47,719
Speaker 3: of the like They've set themselves up to be good

1636
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 3: for a long time with c J. Stroud there absolutely

1637
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 3: now that's what Caleb Williams should be focused on.

1638
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Those should be his questions there you go.

1639
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: See, you know what's interesting about this And I was

1640
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 2: just kind of thinking about this. You know who's got

1641
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: concerns about Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams. That's who has concerns

1642
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams. Because think about what you're doing now,

1643
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 2: when you are about to get a life changing amount

1644
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: of money. Nothing's going to change that. You're going to

1645
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: be the number one overall pick in the draft. That's

1646
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of money. By the way,

1647
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: you happen to play in college at a time where

1648
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 2: nil deals were out there and yours was probably larger

1649
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 2: than anyone's.

1650
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: You made.

1651
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: You already made a bunch of money. So Caleb's made

1652
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of money, He's about to make a much more.

1653
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: You don't really really need to.

1654
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: Worry about that unless you don't believe you're going to

1655
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 2: be any good. That's the only reason for him to

1656
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: do all of the things that he's doing right now,

1657
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: which is essentially to say, what I need to do

1658
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:07,839
Speaker 2: do is maximize my entrance price. That's the only reason

1659
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 2: because let's say, because you might argue back and go, no, no, no,

1660
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: come on, you got strike while the iron's hot, well,

1661
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: the iron's probably gonna get a lot hotter later.

1662
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 3: Not really hot right now if it was not whole

1663
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 3: days pre rookie wage scale.

1664
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: Maybe yes, right, and the iron like I get it

1665
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:36,799
Speaker 2: every Bradford time, fifty million exactly. But let's be honest,

1666
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: he's fine. This is not someone is not gonna gotta

1667
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 2: worry about money.

1668
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 3: So he'd go to make more money if he went

1669
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 3: back to se No, probably think about that.

1670
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Just yeah, but you get what I'm saying. It's like,

1671
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: this is not your moment to squeeze every unless you

1672
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 2: think something's gonna go wrong and you're not gonna get

1673
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 2: another big deal down the road, because I was taught

1674
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 2: this largely by you and Bucky and all the people

1675
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 2: I worked with. Speaking of Kyler Murray and our conversations

1676
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: about him earlier, I remember, I remember the days of

1677
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: Kyler has five million in his back pocket from the

1678
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 2: Oakland A's, So why on earth would he worry about

1679
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 2: the NFL when he's going to be a fourth round

1680
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 2: draft pick? And a lot of the guys were like,

1681
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: because it's December, Mark and he not going to be

1682
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 2: a third or fourth round draft pick. And the top

1683
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 2: of the totem poll in sports financially is NFL quarterback.

1684
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins has helped make it that way. You can

1685
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 2: get to Sean Watson, you can get the whole damn

1686
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 2: thing guaranteed if you're good.

1687
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: But you can't do it now. You have to do

1688
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: it four years from now.

1689
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,640
Speaker 2: And the only reason you'd act this way now is

1690
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: if you don't believe that in four years you're going

1691
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 2: to be worth it.

1692
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the part I don't get, because you

1693
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 3: don't get rich off your rookie contract. What you get

1694
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: is opportunity. Now, when I say you don't get rich,

1695
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking about in terms of someone who's been making

1696
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 3: millions of dollars already, right, and if you probably the

1697
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 3: best thing that could ever happen for him is if

1698
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 3: he dropped out of the top ten. It'd be the

1699
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: best thing that ever happening. Think you would imagine it

1700
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 3: would be. I mean, he would probably his dad probably

1701
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 3: be going crazy, but it would be the best thing

1702
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 3: that could possibly happen.

1703
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's kind of it's a much different scale,

1704
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 2: but there's a little bit of an example of what

1705
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 2: you're talking about that's already happened, and you were right,

1706
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 2: it worked out. I'll tell you what I'm thinking of

1707
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: here in just a second. You may know what I'm

1708
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: thinking already do but let's uh, let's get let's get

1709
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 2: Stevie d in here. Time to find out what's Trent

1710
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 2: and Steve Desager high Steve Hello.

1711
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: There.

1712
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 6: By the way, there was this past week the Athletic Report,

1713
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 6: with their multiple sources saying that Caleb Williams at USC

1714
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 6: between nil money and endorsement, made around ten million dollars

1715
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 6: total for the two seasons. But of course, if he's

1716
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 6: drafted number one one overall, that might be averaging about

1717
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 6: ten million per season for the next four years. How

1718
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 6: about this from we've talked about last hour of Victor

1719
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,959
Speaker 6: wembin Yama. San Antonio got a home win against Indiana

1720
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,879
Speaker 6: One's seventeen to one oh five. Wemben Yama thirty one points,

1721
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 6: twelve rebounds, six assists, six blocks. So he did what

1722
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 6: a rookie rarely does in an NBA game, to have

1723
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 6: at least thirty points, ten rebounds, five assists, five blocks

1724
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 6: in the same game. Apparently, the only other rookies that

1725
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 6: have done that at NBA history David Robinson twice, Tim

1726
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 6: Duncan once, and now Victor wembin Yama, all from the Spurs. Oddly,

1727
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 6: thing is whomen Yama thirty one minutes, had the thirty

1728
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 6: one points and the rest, and he's not even averaging

1729
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 6: thirty minutes per game this season the late games in Phoenix,

1730
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 6: the Thunder leading forty nine to forty one over the

1731
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 6: Suns under five minutes to go in the second quarter.

1732
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 6: New York won at Cleveland one oh seven ninety eight,

1733
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 6: even though in the opening minute Jalen Brunson of the

1734
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 6: Knicks left early with the Bruce knee x rays were negative.

1735
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 6: Josh Hart posted a triple double victories for Orlando and

1736
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 6: Toronto wins for Philadelphia and the Clippers, who won at

1737
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 6: Minnesota eighty nine eighty eight in a low scoring game.

1738
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard scored thirty two points and a lot of

1739
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 6: scoring in Boston for the home team. At least they've

1740
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 6: won eleven in a row. The Celtics beak Golden State

1741
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,560
Speaker 6: won forty to eighty eight. Celtics led it half to

1742
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 6: what Yeah, that's right, won forty to eighty eight. Let

1743
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 6: it have by forty four. The fifty two lead. Fifty

1744
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 6: two point lead was gained by the third quarter.

1745
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: It's just how many losses do the Warriors get for that? Yeah?

1746
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 6: Apparently just one. It seems like more than that. But

1747
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 6: as Streamon Green said afterwards, flush it.

1748
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:21,440
Speaker 1: It's good. Roady e one.

1749
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 6: The lague game in college hoops is on FS one

1750
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 6: right now, under eight minutes to go. Colorado at home

1751
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 6: leads Stanford seventy three to fifty six. One week left

1752
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 6: in college hoops regular season. In fact, come Saturday, we'll

1753
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 6: have the first conference tournament final selection. Sunday is only

1754
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 6: two weeks away. It's March seventeenth. Five conference tournaments will

1755
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 6: be ending that day. I'll just go ahead and say

1756
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 6: teams like UCLA and Michigan are not going to the

1757
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament this year. Maybe not Indiana either, although the

1758
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 6: Hoosiers did win at Maryland today. Ohio State beat Michigan

1759
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 6: eighty four to sixty one. Wolverinees three and sixteen in

1760
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 6: the Big Ten Conference, Number three unclinched the Big East,

1761
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 6: winning against Seaton Hall today ninety one to sixty one.

1762
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 6: Kyle Larson took the NASCAR Race in Vegas. US women's

1763
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 6: soccer has won in La tonight three to nothing against

1764
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 6: Columbia with three goals in the first half. This ends

1765
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 6: this weekend's quarterfinals of the new Women's Gold Cup tournament

1766
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 6: at the Tennis Exhibition in Las Vegas. Carlos Alcarez edged

1767
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 6: Rafael Nadal. The PGA tournament in Florida will finish tomorrow

1768
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 6: after thunderstorms there today which caused a three and a

1769
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 6: half hour delay. Austin Ekrote leads by one stroke. Juaquin

1770
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 6: Neeman won the golf event that is the live golf

1771
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 6: event by four strokes in Saudi Arabia. Every live golf

1772
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 6: tournament gives four million dollars to the winner, and he's

1773
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 6: won two of the three so far this season, John

1774
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 6: Rahm finished fifth place. For finishing fifth, he got eight

1775
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars. He was tied for the lead after

1776
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 6: a first round sixty two on Friday, and quite a

1777
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 6: story that Anthony Kim was even there. He finished in

1778
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 6: last place, but it was first tournament for him in

1779
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 6: over a decade and he was last place by far

1780
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 6: sixteen over par. He earned fifty thousand dollars for the

1781
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 6: three days and not even being competitive.

1782
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Back to you, it's a Sunday tradition outside of the

1783
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: NFL season where Steve comes in with all the live

1784
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 2: money stats and we just sit here.

1785
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: And go, what are we doing? What are we doing? Oh?

1786
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: We do it? What are we doing?

1787
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 2: These guys are out there playing golf, finishing and last

1788
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 2: and making people's annual salaries doing.

1789
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: It years from now.

1790
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 6: I just suspect people will ask golfers, do you remember

1791
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 6: when decades ago you were on the PGA Tour and

1792
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 6: they offered you live golf money and you said no

1793
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 6: because it was controversial. I mean, wouldn't you just there

1794
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 6: are legitimate controversies at play here for sure, where the

1795
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 6: money's coming from. All of that just can't you just

1796
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 6: pick like your favorite Jewish charity and give all your

1797
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 6: Saudi money or half of it to that, and then

1798
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 6: take all the money the next tournament for you. There

1799
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 6: are ways around this and to publicize your own causes

1800
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 6: and take their money to do it. I mean, it's

1801
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 6: just silly money.

1802
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 2: And Ephraim and I have already discussed this a number

1803
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: of times. We're on the same page. I don't want

1804
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 2: to offend anybody and dismiss quote unquote where the money

1805
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: is coming from. I also love our country very much,

1806
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: but many of us who work in America, we don't

1807
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: spend a whole lot of time tracking where our money's

1808
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: coming from, right and.

1809
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 6: Saying no to buying us taxes or.

1810
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: Little little high and mighty for us to act like

1811
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 2: everything else is clean, just not Saudi.

1812
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing things. But look, when.

1813
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 6: It's Ron James and China has been talked about on

1814
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 6: this show. Can we go into that again?

1815
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 2: When people offer you an unbelievably high paying job, I've

1816
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: never known anybody to be like, could we sit down

1817
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 2: and discuss where the money's coming from? People don't do that,

1818
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 2: and so you know, yeah, I think it's it's it's

1819
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 2: a little funny what we've done to these uh, these

1820
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 2: live golfers and uh and it's easy for Tiger Woods

1821
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 2: to say no because he's already a billionaire. So anyway, anyway, anyway,

1822
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 2: you're right, there are legitimate controversies, for sure, great stuff.

1823
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 2: Steve has always appreciate you. Tonight Live tyrack dot Com Studios.

1824
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 2: Do you know Ephraim, the guy who fell out of

1825
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 2: the top ten and it worked out?

1826
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Do you know who I'm thinking of? Would that be uh,

1827
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes?

1828
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 2: No, I was actually not thinking of Patrick Mahomes because

1829
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that he was necessarily right. Yeah, I

1830
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: don't know if he fell out of the top ten.

1831
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 2: I can think of a guy, and boy, will you

1832
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 2: you will identify with this person by his position and

1833
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 2: his team. This guy was going to go second overall,

1834
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:00,879
Speaker 2: he was going to go number two overall. And literally

1835
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: moments before he was going to go number two overall,

1836
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:08,959
Speaker 2: some kakamami video hit the internet of him.

1837
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,799
Speaker 1: Smoking weed or something.

1838
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 2: Guy had a mask on, and the next thing you know,

1839
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 2: Laramie Tunzel was taking thirteenth overall. I was watching the

1840
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 2: draft with a friend and as you know, we're wont

1841
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 2: to do in the sports world.

1842
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm like freaking out. Phone's going crazy.

1843
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Larry Tunzell's flying down the board blah

1844
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And my friend didn't know as

1845
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 2: much about sports, and he goes, so, what's going on here?

1846
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 2: I said, well, he's losing millions of dollars and then

1847
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 2: he gets picked thirteenth and he goes, so, what's he

1848
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: going to get for going thirteenth?

1849
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I go, oh, well, probably.

1850
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, still like ten million dollars. Friend goes,

1851
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be fine, and I was like,

1852
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 2: that's probably a pretty good point.

1853
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be fine. And what did Laramie do?

1854
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Laramie predictably became one of the top left tackles in

1855
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 2: the entire NFL.

1856
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 1: He is now a staple for the Houston.

1857
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 2: Texans and has career earnings north of one hundred million

1858
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 2: dollars just on the field alone.

1859
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Yep, there you go. Let me tell you this.

1860
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 3: If everybody's turned off on Caleb Williams and he gets

1861
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 3: to ten, eleven or twelve or thirteen, can you imagine

1862
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: the Jets, Minnesota, the Broncos, Auto Rators.

1863
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: That's where you want to be.

1864
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 3: That's where you want to be because now you have

1865
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 3: a real legitimate chance, a real chance to do something

1866
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 3: special with your rookie year.

1867
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aks Bryce Young. That did not go well at

1868
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: all at all.

1869
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is just say you turned off

1870
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 3: people because you look at that. Carolina's not taking well,

1871
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 3: they don't have it. The Bears have theirs, Arizona's not

1872
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 3: taking a quarterback, the Chargers aren't taking a quarterback, the Giants,

1873
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 3: Stadio's not taking the.

1874
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. Just there's a lot of money.

1875
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,799
Speaker 1: Might want to wait one year they're gonna take a quarterback.

1876
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 1: They're not going to take that quarterback. Right. So you

1877
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 1: you just.

1878
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,839
Speaker 3: If you fall out of the top ten, your career

1879
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 3: is going to be remarked, be different than if you

1880
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 3: were to go to Chicago or Washington or New England

1881
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:19,440
Speaker 3: or Tennessee. Tremendous like it. It'll be like night and day.

1882
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 3: So instead of thinking about what you can get, think

1883
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 3: about where you're going, what's important to you, what's the

1884
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 3: best situation for you. Now, let the chips fall where

1885
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: they may, but go through the process because it's a

1886
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 3: it's there for a reason. And I hated the combine process.

1887
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 3: I thought for kids who came from the West Coast

1888
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 3: it was awful because of the time change. Right at

1889
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 3: at four o'clock in the morning, at four thirty in

1890
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 3: the morning, when they call you from your room because

1891
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 3: you gotta go take a drug test, that's one thirty

1892
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 3: for me. Oh and guess what. You don't go back

1893
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 3: to sleep for the until after midnight. This is real talk. Yeah,

1894
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 3: right now, But they wake you up, you go downstairs,

1895
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 3: you take a drug test, and then they say, hey,

1896
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 3: do you have any do you They have a list

1897
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 3: of people who need to go to the hospital and

1898
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 3: get X rays because if they broke a bone or

1899
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,879
Speaker 3: whatever whatever, And so you go sit in the hospital

1900
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 3: for four and a half hours, and then you come back.

1901
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 3: You do some meetings, you have way in, you have

1902
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 3: the bench press, you have lunch, you have the wonder lick,

1903
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: you have uh and then you're on field drills. I'm like,

1904
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 3: I ain't even been to sleep yet.

1905
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, wonder Caleb didn't want to do it. I

1906
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: change everything, I said, He's right.

1907
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 3: So what what the problem is when you do your

1908
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 3: medical at the combo on every team's medical staff is there,

1909
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 3: Every team is there.

1910
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to do it again. You don't have

1911
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: to answer any questions. It's all there.

1912
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 3: You got all the information, and it's done, and it's done.

1913
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 3: Now you can feel like, I don't need every team

1914
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 3: to be there. I just need one team to be there,

1915
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 3: the team with the first pick in the draft. You

1916
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 3: can have that opinion. Is that reality?

1917
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it is.

1918
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he is the odds on, maybe he will be

1919
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 3: the first pick in the draft. Chicago Bears will take him,

1920
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 3: and then we can see how it shakes out.

1921
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: We can see how it shakes out.

1922
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 3: But do you think he'll have a better first year

1923
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 3: at Chicago or Minnesota or the Broncos?

1924
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Right? Well, and all right, think he'll have me? You know?

1925
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 2: And maybe this isn't as relevant to people, but will

1926
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 2: he have a better year this year than Justin Fields

1927
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: would have had this year in the exact same spot.

1928
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: That to me, I firmly believe the answer is no.

1929
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1930
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Speaker 2: Yeah, more on that in just a second tire Rock

1931
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios with Eve from Salah Mark Willard and

1932
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: in addition to the conversations about Fields and Wilson. We

1933
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 2: brought up earlier Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones. Did we miss anyone?

1934
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 2: I want to ask you that are there any teams

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Speaker 2: other teams who should be moving on from their current guy?

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: All Win the tie, Rag dot Com Studios, Plank and

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Speaker 2: Span years standing by just a few more minutes tonight

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Speaker 2: with my guy.

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Speaker 1: From salam Did I miss anyone? You know?

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Speaker 2: I think that the teams we didn't mention they already know, right,

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Speaker 2: Like the Patriots are going to do something at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position, right. I think that the Steelers know, the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: No, Atlanta knows.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta knows, The Titans know, ye, the Raiders know, the

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Speaker 2: Commanders know. I think the Vikings are going to try

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Speaker 2: to bring Kirk Cousins back. That probably makes sense. I'd

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Speaker 2: say the Panthers, but that'd be mean and it's too early.

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Speaker 1: It's too early.

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Speaker 2: The only other ones I thought about were the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks and the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 3: I think if they could be in a position to

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Speaker 3: get one of those top quarterbacks, they take them. Neither

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Speaker 3: want Geno Smith nor Derek Carr are long term, you know,

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Speaker 3: problem solvers for the perspective teams You're not going in

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Speaker 3: the next decade with Derek Carr or Geno Smith.

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Speaker 1: It's just not happening.

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Speaker 3: So if you have an opportunity to get someone you

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Speaker 3: can see being the face of your franchise for twelve years,

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Speaker 3: the next twelve year, are you know ten years giving

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Speaker 3: them two to grow?

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: And you have to also fight off the notion of

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Speaker 3: we need to have him play now, so we only

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Speaker 3: have five years with him. We need him to play

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Speaker 3: now to see what we have now. How about develop

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Speaker 3: him and then when he does play Allah Jordan Love Yep,

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Speaker 3: you give him an opportunity to be successful. How about that.

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Speaker 3: Let's let that be the model again. All right now? C. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud does not help that cost. Neither did RG three

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Speaker 3: and Andrew Luck when they came out together. That kind

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Speaker 3: of sped up the time clock for quarterbacks, which is

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Speaker 3: unfair for all of the other quarterbacks outside of the outliers.

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Speaker 3: You just don't give him enough time, especially on teams

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Speaker 3: that are not constructed to be successful, to.

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Speaker 1: Put all that pressure on a rookie quarterback. And the

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Speaker 1: NFL is almost criminal. But we see it time and

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Speaker 1: I'm again over and over and over it to me,

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Speaker 1: it just isn't fair. And now Justin Fields is the

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Speaker 1: product of that next victim.

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Speaker 2: I tried to ask you, I should have asked you

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Speaker 2: if the Jets are gonna be on the list, but

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Speaker 2: I think your head might have exploded.

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Speaker 1: You know they have to be on the list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all in on, Aaron Rodgers. Man, it's gonna be bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but for a year, if that, If that, great

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Speaker 2: to be with you tonight in the software man. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Plank and Spaniard are coming up next. Whole lot of

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Speaker 2: fun tonight. You stay right where you are on all

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Speaker 2: of these platforms across the nation. Forty from Salam, I'm

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio.