Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Katty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Well some business news.
Speaker 3: Yesterday was Tim Cook's final product announcement as Apple CEO. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and his big reveal was an AI powered serie.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's such a great idea. Take a
Speaker 1: look at this, Hey.
Speaker 2: Siri, text Lisa.
Speaker 4: That's a great idea, Dan, Texting your girlfriend Lisa is
Speaker 4: not just a smart way to get in touch with her,
Speaker 4: it's also a brilliant way to reach her.
Speaker 2: If you want, I can draft a message for you now.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't need the whole AI spiel.
Speaker 1: Just please just.
Speaker 2: Text her totally. Hear you, Dan, you want to send
Speaker 2: a text to Lisa.
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're dialed in on the problem and
Speaker 4: you're ready to execute. I'm ready to dive in on
Speaker 4: the Lisa text whenever you're ready.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, just dive in.
Speaker 2: Sounds good. Say the word and I'll get to work.
Speaker 2: Text text Lisa.
Speaker 4: Text mexs Lisa is a Mexican restaurant in your area.
Speaker 2: Would you like directions too?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, my god, just do it.
Speaker 4: Just send the text to Lisa, let me know, forget it.
Speaker 1: I don't need you undone.
Speaker 4: Texting Lisa, I don't need you.
Speaker 6: Siri.
Speaker 1: Yep, it worse. Oh what a great pun. Oh I
Speaker 1: like the tag Siri. Yep, we made it worse. That
Speaker 1: is true, though, that's the thing. I hate him out it.
Speaker 1: Just quit with the fawning this and that. Just give
Speaker 1: me the answer, or do what I ask you to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the summer saying the new series underwhelming and apple
Speaker 1: Stock dropped. I haven't tried it. I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Don't tend to trust those things.
Speaker 1: Speaking of AI, at some point I had to pay
Speaker 1: off my medical breakthrough thanks to a chatbot. Not that
Speaker 1: you want to hear about my minor medical problems, but
Speaker 1: it really is interesting. And yes, doctors who are listening,
Speaker 1: I realize you can misdiagnose using chat pots, but I
Speaker 1: thought this was super interesting. The Wall Street Journal got
Speaker 1: together sixteen well known, respected economists to ask them how
Speaker 1: AI will change the job market and how humans ought
Speaker 1: to prepare and you know, the introduction? Do I even
Speaker 1: need the introduction? It's one of the most pressing questions
Speaker 1: facing the US economy today, Companies pouring unthinkable amounts some money,
Speaker 1: and data centers ruling out AI tools, rethinking what workers
Speaker 1: they need. Americans are anxious and excited about the developments.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. So they asked a bunch of questions
Speaker 1: to these folks, what AI. That's a poor start, the
Speaker 1: first damn word? I mean, is there any point in continuing?
Speaker 1: Let's go with will will AI lead to net job
Speaker 1: losses or job growth across the economy? Job losses or
Speaker 1: job growth? Eight response or obviously, no change was one
Speaker 1: of the options. No change set eight of them out
Speaker 1: of how many again sixteen sixteen? So half said no change.
Speaker 1: That seems like a cop out answer. Well, I think
Speaker 1: when you dig into the answers, it'll grow over here
Speaker 1: and shrink over there, but not a significant change. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm like, no change. What net
Speaker 1: loss to net growth is five to two? So the
Speaker 1: biggest thing that's ever happened happens and there's no change.
Speaker 1: If I had that hard to believe, yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 1: those who were willing to hazard a guess it was
Speaker 1: five to two loss over again. What does history suggest
Speaker 1: will happen to workers displaced by a I, and you
Speaker 1: had a nice variety of well they'll learn similar jobs,
Speaker 1: or there'll actually be more productive and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: they'll switch. But I liked this one from Rebecca Henderson
Speaker 1: and who's a professor at Harvard Business School. I read
Speaker 1: the history of suggesting that if this is as much
Speaker 1: of a disruption as I expect, the workers end up
Speaker 1: getting very, very angry and changing the politics. Of course,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't think we've ever really
Speaker 1: seen anything moving with this scale and speed before. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a wild ride. Yes, indeed, the scale end,
Speaker 1: the speed is it's one hundred times faster than the
Speaker 1: Industrial Revolution anyway, so nobody's really sure. It'll vary on
Speaker 1: who you are. Will AI meaningfully bolster labor productivity? Fifteen
Speaker 1: to zero? Yes, number sixteen apparently couldn't be bothered to
Speaker 1: answer because reasonable question. But man, when the super rich
Speaker 1: start talking about it, it will have more productivity. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: not really The question I'm answering for my kids is
Speaker 1: whether the country is going to be we're all ready
Speaker 1: to the number one economic engine in the world, will
Speaker 1: be more productive fantastic. How about will there be any
Speaker 1: jobs for anybody? That's the question? And how will the
Speaker 1: wealth be concentrated? Yeah, which is you know sometime we've
Speaker 1: talked about at fair length, is AI already impacting the
Speaker 1: labor market? And how about in five years? Really interesting
Speaker 1: answer is too long to get into fully, But like
Speaker 1: this fellow who's a University of Toronto School of Management professor,
Speaker 1: we are currently in the between times. We see the
Speaker 1: potential of AI, but our organizational systems haven't fully adjusted.
Speaker 1: Over the next five to ten years, at least one
Speaker 1: leading company in each market will likely figure out how
Speaker 1: to transition to a system solution that is much more productive.
Speaker 1: For example, instead of an insurer simply paying out after
Speaker 1: an accident to the extent that they do pastards, they
Speaker 1: may shift their value proposition from repair and replace to
Speaker 1: predict and prevent. The labor impact will shift from doing
Speaker 1: things faster to doing different things, requiring a significant reorganization
Speaker 1: of human roles. I think that's a good and a
Speaker 1: smart answer. A significant reorganization of human roles. Yyp yipes
Speaker 1: is right and in the blank of an eye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jason Furman, who you may know, he was on the
Speaker 1: White House Council of Economic Advisors, I think in the
Speaker 1: Obama years says we're currently seeing little or no impact
Speaker 1: of AI on the labor market. You can't say no impact.
Speaker 1: That's not true. But so far it's not much. Let's
Speaker 1: get to these These guys are all smarter and women.
Speaker 1: I assume there's women economists. They're all smarter than me.
Speaker 1: But to say no impact so far, so YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Come on, it is absolutely worth every time you quote
Speaker 1: a professor of any sort. It's worth mentioning the Ivory
Speaker 1: Tower filter. How they think they perceive the real world
Speaker 1: based on their studies and their surveys and their mathematicians skills.
Speaker 1: But they don't live with us. I was going to
Speaker 1: say at the beginning, but I want to take the
Speaker 1: fun out of this is economists are often wrong. And
Speaker 1: this is the most uh you have to guess sort
Speaker 1: of story I can ever remember in talking about the economy.
Speaker 1: The economy. This isn't oil or wheat or something where
Speaker 1: we have decades of an idea of this or that,
Speaker 1: we have no idea when or what none. So I
Speaker 1: mean they are really really guessing and then for some
Speaker 1: for purpose that we haven't seen much changer. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's true, but so so so what
Speaker 1: did you see any of those graduation speeches where anybody
Speaker 1: mentioned AI and everyone boo. Yeah, so it's had some
Speaker 1: effect on people, and not only as we've discussed. Are
Speaker 1: we going to have to deal with the dizzying pace
Speaker 1: of it? But nobody knows what it is? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: we don't. You mentioned developments and agriculture or the use
Speaker 1: of internal combustion engines or stuff like that. You could
Speaker 1: extrapolate their adoption across an industry pretty easily. This is
Speaker 1: you don't even know what Frankenstein's monster looks like. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I like this though. What kind of workers are most well,
Speaker 1: I liked it and I hated it? What kind of
Speaker 1: workers are most likely to benefit from or be hurt
Speaker 1: by the spread of AI? And this one guy from
Speaker 1: the University of Michigan says, I think of AI as
Speaker 1: doing cognitive work. So this is a revolution coming squarely
Speaker 1: at white collar workers. I now know what blue collar
Speaker 1: workers felt like in the nineteen seventies. Wow, And several
Speaker 1: of them hit things you've heard before. Routine information processing
Speaker 1: rules like adjusting insurance claims, translating documents, writing standard ad
Speaker 1: copy face genuine displacement risk. Let's see a couple more.
Speaker 1: Will AI widen or narrow income inequality between highly educated
Speaker 1: and less educated workers? Widen one? Seven to five? Really
Speaker 1: no change? Were two but only seven to five? I
Speaker 1: think I am on the widen side. Well, if it's
Speaker 1: going to hit college graduates, white collar workers more and
Speaker 1: they don't have jobs, why aren't why aren't their salaries
Speaker 1: going to come back down closer to blue collar workers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's going to be the only kind of workers
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Speaker 1: I love AI discussions like this, but I do know
Speaker 1: for a fact because I've read it, I've listened to
Speaker 1: the podcast. The smartest people in the world on AI
Speaker 1: are often one hundred and eighty degrees apart on this
Speaker 1: will doom the world, end humanity versus it is never
Speaker 1: actually even gonna happen, and everything in between. So that's
Speaker 1: quite a wide range. It will end humankind or it's
Speaker 1: never gonna get going with AGI, that'll never happen, and
Speaker 1: so at the risk of making you angry at me,
Speaker 1: all of you. One of the reasons I've brought this
Speaker 1: story to you is precisely what Jack just said. They
Speaker 1: get to you. Remember our white collar job discussion of
Speaker 1: roughly two and a half minutes ago. Here's the question,
Speaker 1: will AI adoptions significantly reduce or expand demand for white
Speaker 1: collar jobs? Reduce five? No change six expand three? No consensus,
Speaker 1: nothing even approaching a consensus, leaning slightly toward reduce. And
Speaker 1: they're guessing on their answers. Yeah, I mean everybody you
Speaker 1: say guess when you're an economist, but I mean really guessing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. How should people repair I'm not repair, prepair?
Speaker 1: How should people prepare own stock in an AI company? Kidding,
Speaker 1: says the Michigan guy. Canned goods weapons? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: read absolutely no consensus on that. Either choose a field
Speaker 1: you have genuine passion for and get ready for change.
Speaker 1: So SpaceX is about to go IPO, and so is
Speaker 1: Chat and didn't Entropy announce it too, so open AIA.
Speaker 1: I was reading some of the stuff that Elon's planning
Speaker 1: to do with SpaceX, and I thought, God, I got
Speaker 1: to invest in that. You know, I know lots and
Speaker 1: lots and lots of people are thinking that. But man
Speaker 1: his his plan to like very very soon put these
Speaker 1: AI data centers in space that will be multiples more
Speaker 1: powerful than anything on earth. For all kinds of reasons.
Speaker 1: We can explain it. It just well, it's it is some
Speaker 1: forward thinking man boy, and I wish I'd signed on
Speaker 1: a SpaceX in the early days and not this dead
Speaker 1: end job. Everybody who works there is going to become
Speaker 1: super rich, and it's always been around for what a
Speaker 1: dozen years. I saw the picture the other day of
Speaker 1: him and like the ten people that started it in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, that's how old that company is. Ten people
Speaker 1: in him standing in the hallway officially starting SpaceX today.
Speaker 1: We got to build some rockets and it might make
Speaker 1: him a trillionaire by next year. Talking to Steve Heilton
Speaker 1: at the bottom of this hour, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of other stuff coming up. To stay here. California election's
Speaker 1: got a lot of national attention. I suppose that will
Speaker 1: be true leading up to UH electing a new governor,
Speaker 1: whether it's Steve Hilton or Hoavier. But Sarah, but we
Speaker 1: have Steve Hilton on in about ten minutes or so.
Speaker 1: To stay here and there can't be enough derision port
Speaker 1: on California's ridiculous prone to fraud, and it's certainly the
Speaker 1: perception of fraud voting systems. So I mentioned this briefly
Speaker 1: with the following disclaimer blah blah blah. Consult your doctors
Speaker 1: that a zoo. It may be wrong. Who cares. I've
Speaker 1: got this physical problem right now. Whenever I undress, women
Speaker 1: can't stay away from me. No, you can tell us
Speaker 1: what it is or is Yeah, no, I will raid
Speaker 1: you precisely what I told Claude. I have what I
Speaker 1: would describe as a sore throat, but it's not a
Speaker 1: typical sore throat. The pain is tenderness right above my
Speaker 1: atoms apple. It's sensitive to pressure from the outside. My
Speaker 1: throat is not inflamed. I get this semi regularly, have
Speaker 1: for at least fifteen years, any ideas fifteen years, oh
Speaker 1: at least. And you've seen doctors about this. I have,
Speaker 1: and they have said, Wow, that's weird. Here's some antibiotics.
Speaker 1: And it probably comes up that you talk four hours
Speaker 1: for a living and stuff like that. It could I
Speaker 1: have mentioned that, but they look at my vocal cords
Speaker 1: and say, A little inflamed but not manchious biotic anyway,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Hit the breaks. They got a
Speaker 1: guy with a wet cough in the waiting room. We
Speaker 1: got to get him out of there. He's sickening everybody.
Speaker 1: But what you're describing, it answers is pretty distinctive and
Speaker 1: describes what I described points toward a few more specific possibilities.
Speaker 1: The most likely candidates are hyoid bone syndrome. The hyoid
Speaker 1: is a small horseshoe shaped bone sitting right above the larynx.
Speaker 1: It can develop procidis, or irritation of the surrounding tendons
Speaker 1: and ligaments, causing exactly the kind of external point tenderness
Speaker 1: you describe. It's often triggered by talking a lot, and
Speaker 1: worth knowing because of my hobbies. When I'm not talking,
Speaker 1: I'm singing, swallowing repeatedly, or next strain than thyro hyoid
Speaker 1: muscle ligament strain, And that's almost certainly it. And it
Speaker 1: says you really need to go to an E and
Speaker 1: T that specializes in a laryngologist rather than general eant
Speaker 1: who specializes in voice. They work with professional voice users routinely,
Speaker 1: so after all these years and it look I'm not
Speaker 1: a whiner. It hurts a lot, like it dominates my day.
Speaker 1: It's hard to focus on every throat yeah wow, but
Speaker 1: like externally, it's like I got punched in the throat,
Speaker 1: which you're frequently threatening for various offenses for fifteen years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just after a while, I just thought, well,
Speaker 1: nobody can do anything about it, so I'll just take
Speaker 1: some tail and all and deal with it. It's really
Speaker 1: bad this time. So anyway, again, you know, utilize some caution,
Speaker 1: but if you can be very specific about your weird,
Speaker 1: mysterious medical issue, these things are amazing and that the
Speaker 1: claud is not under pressure to see twenty four patients,
Speaker 1: you know after lunchtime, and you know, has the limitations
Speaker 1: of human beings and the ability to do research. I
Speaker 1: mean it did all the research of the medical world
Speaker 1: has the capacity to do right in the space of
Speaker 1: two and a half seconds.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It didn't examine me. I understand that. I'm not a fool.
Speaker 1: But it nailed it. I'm sure it nailed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Specialists are a thing too. I learned that
Speaker 1: with my cancer thing back in the day. Specialists can
Speaker 1: you know, you see your doctor and that's a tough job,
Speaker 1: that general practitioner, because you just got the whole body
Speaker 1: and everything and all these different ages, different problems, different
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. Spousialists obviously specialize in one tiny,
Speaker 1: little specific thing. But first time I get to a specialist,
Speaker 1: he's like, you don't have that at all, and within
Speaker 1: five minutes told me, oh, oh sorry, I'm not supposed to.
Speaker 1: He probably was a life saving decision, that seeing that specialist.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they are good. Not easy to see though.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing that Claude doesn't have is a
Speaker 1: whole insurance Who's paying for this? So we're not gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, send you to the specialist because it costs
Speaker 1: too much money. Thing going right, So I'm probably gonna
Speaker 1: see somebody in nine months at the Mayo Clinic, which
Speaker 1: is many miles away. But it's it's better than nothing.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, what was I gonna say? I had something else?
Speaker 1: It probably doesn't matter, so oh oh, now I remember
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. You're absolutely right about general practitioners,
Speaker 1: and I admire them so much. This our job, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate the good ones. That's why I've always thought
Speaker 1: veterinarians are amazing. Yeah, no, because they've got all that
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different species that can't talk. He
Speaker 1: can't ask it what brings in here today? You can't
Speaker 1: send stuff the tail and give it the old how's
Speaker 1: your uncle? You can't say to a horse, what brings
Speaker 1: you in here today? Will my hoof is kind of soar?
Speaker 1: Steve Hilton? Is he going to be the next governor?
Speaker 1: The question is are Californians disgusted enough to try something different?
Speaker 1: They tried it with Arnold, will they try it with Steve?
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to him. Coming up next Armstrong
Speaker 1: and Geeddy.
Speaker 7: It's the same system that can't count votes, that can't
Speaker 7: build a train after ten years, and billions of dollars,
Speaker 7: that can't clear the homeless after twenty four billions of
Speaker 7: dollars spent, that can't get anything right.
Speaker 1: God, that message should resonate that Steve Hilton, who The
Speaker 1: California Post is very happy to see in the final
Speaker 1: two for governor of California. Their editorial board backing Steve Hilton,
Speaker 1: saying congratulations to the dynamic Steve Hilton for advancing to
Speaker 1: the general election in November. The Hilton Besarah matchup gives
Speaker 1: California voters the contest. They deserve a choice between change
Speaker 1: and the status quo. Now, Xavier Bsara is going to
Speaker 1: mention that his highest qualification was being the Secretary of
Speaker 1: the HHS under Biden, and he was so well respected.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden said.
Speaker 5: This, Javier Bakaria, that's how highly he ranked in Joe
Speaker 5: Biden's mind.
Speaker 1: The mainstream media usually introduces our guest as former Fox
Speaker 1: News host. I would prefer to announce him as aid
Speaker 1: to David Cameron, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, a businessman,
Speaker 1: a restaurant tour and a proud immigrant to the United
Speaker 1: States of America who happened to have a great show
Speaker 1: on Fox News for a little while. Steve Hilton, Steve,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling great?
Speaker 6: Good to be with you? Thank you.
Speaker 8: I like that intro.
Speaker 6: I'll take it. Thank you. Guys, you think he deal it?
Speaker 6: Use it?
Speaker 1: You think he can beat Javier Bakara, as Joe Biden called.
Speaker 8: Him, I think I can beat the guy that I mean.
Speaker 8: We don't really have the time to list all the
Speaker 8: insults that were leveled at him during his time there
Speaker 8: by his colleagues in the Biden administration. Well, you know,
Speaker 8: they thought that these are actual quotes. He's an quote idiot,
Speaker 8: He's a quote joke. It's like, oh, and on, this
Speaker 8: is the guy who was rejected by the Biden cabinet
Speaker 8: for being too incompetent.
Speaker 6: I mean, what does that tell you.
Speaker 8: I mean, you've got to work very hard to be
Speaker 8: considered useless by that crew, and yet here we are.
Speaker 8: This is the guy that the Democrat machine has finally
Speaker 8: glimbed onto to give us another four years of their
Speaker 8: disastrous rule that has given us the highest cost of
Speaker 8: living in the country, the highest unemployment rate, the highest
Speaker 8: poverty rate. Oh great, more of the same, please, we
Speaker 8: love it. Let's keep going in that direction. No, thank you.
Speaker 8: It's really amazing that the way that they assumed that
Speaker 8: now that we're in this, you know, we got clarity
Speaker 8: about the race.
Speaker 6: It's me versus Versarah.
Speaker 8: There's just this complete assumption that, well, that means he's
Speaker 8: the governor, because of course that that's what happens in California.
Speaker 8: I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
Speaker 8: and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
Speaker 8: not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
Speaker 8: on every front. For the fact that Bassara himself is this,
Speaker 8: you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest, perfectly amiable,
Speaker 8: but completely unaccomplished, establishment non entity who's got literally nothing
Speaker 8: to offer California except more of the same, as well
Speaker 8: as a positive plan to change. They're really practical things
Speaker 8: that are going to help people your first hundred grand
Speaker 8: tax free, three dollar gaffs, cut your electric bills in half,
Speaker 8: a home you can afford to buy, cut your cost,
Speaker 8: help your business, fix our schools. Just common sense, practical things.
Speaker 8: We're crying out for that in California. And the last
Speaker 8: point I'll make, there's a majority for that in California.
Speaker 8: Fifty seven percent of Californians think that the state's going
Speaker 8: in the wrong direction and needs change. And that's why
Speaker 8: I'm confident we can win in November.
Speaker 1: Man calling him a perdu establishment non entity, that is
Speaker 1: very accurate. Yeah, back when people spoke more fancily, they
Speaker 1: would refer to him as a mediocrity. So Steve, enough softball.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you the hard question. And
Speaker 1: we know California and California politics pretty well at this point.
Speaker 1: If you go up into the beautiful foothills and mountain areas.
Speaker 1: The more rural areas of California, you see Trump flags
Speaker 1: of flying when you go into the deep blue cities.
Speaker 1: That name is anathema, and the left is trying desperately
Speaker 1: to turn you into some sort of leading maga character.
Speaker 1: How are you going to deal with that challenge having
Speaker 1: received the president's endorsement.
Speaker 8: I'm proud to have the president's endorsement, and I think
Speaker 8: it's just really important to focus on what that means.
Speaker 8: As the President himself has been saying that when I'm
Speaker 8: elected governor, you're going to have someone who will work
Speaker 8: with the President and his team to bring practical benefits
Speaker 8: to California, whether that's lowering gas prices by opening up
Speaker 8: energy production in our state, which he wants to do,
Speaker 8: his team wants to do, I want to do, but
Speaker 8: Gavin Newson is fighting that it's one of the reasons
Speaker 8: we have the highest gas prices in the country because
Speaker 8: we're importing oil from halfway around the world instead of
Speaker 8: getting it from right here in California. Fraud in our
Speaker 8: healthcare system in California rampant billions of dollars of fraud.
Speaker 8: The Vice President and his broad task is trying to
Speaker 8: root that out so we can cut the spending and
Speaker 8: cut taxes.
Speaker 6: They don't want to do that.
Speaker 8: They're resisting that all of these examples where we can
Speaker 8: have forest management. Is another example where the President and
Speaker 8: his team Doug Bergham in Interior, and remember, I know it's.
Speaker 6: Not just the president. I've got good relationships.
Speaker 8: With half the cabinet, Brook Rollin's and Agriculture, and let's
Speaker 8: talk about forest management. They've got a very sensible plan
Speaker 8: and an executive order to manage our forest better. And
Speaker 8: what's gaven use of doing? Just blocking it? Every single
Speaker 8: thing that the administration is doing to try and help
Speaker 8: California in practical ways. You've got a governor right now
Speaker 8: that's doing the opposite, blocking it and fighting it and
Speaker 8: bragging about suing them, and they see that as the
Speaker 8: measure of success, how many lawsuits they can file against
Speaker 8: the Trump administration. I think people are going to really
Speaker 8: get tired of design. I think we just got to
Speaker 8: tell the truth about this stuff. And they because they
Speaker 8: they've got a record that is literally indefensible, right, they
Speaker 8: cannot defend the record, and they've got nothing new to say.
Speaker 6: Besarah was on CNN.
Speaker 8: The other week and asked that simple question. Yeah, that
Speaker 8: completely stumped Kamala Harris and when she was running for president,
Speaker 8: is anything you'd have done differently? And Bessarah had the
Speaker 8: same ridiculous adser oh, I can't think of anything. Oh,
Speaker 8: it can't be that bad in California because people come
Speaker 8: to Disneyland a lot.
Speaker 6: That's what he said.
Speaker 1: Wow, he is a jokay. You mentioned that you mentioned
Speaker 1: the democratic machine earlier, and it reminded me National Review
Speaker 1: headline after the LA mayor result came in, the machine wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there anything to learn from you running statewide that
Speaker 1: as bad as things are in LA, they weren't bad
Speaker 1: enough for people to not think, you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: either stick with the current mayor or go with a communist.
Speaker 1: How do you break through the machine politics?
Speaker 8: We build our own and make it work better and
Speaker 8: specifically ballot harvesting. That's how they do this. They get
Speaker 8: their activist crew. This is what they've done for years.
Speaker 8: We've been documenting this through my campaign where we published
Speaker 8: these fraud reports and this is what you're seeing now.
Speaker 8: This is when it comes into play. So we've been
Speaker 8: showing for example, the very first fraud report we did
Speaker 8: earlier this year, the cannabis tax Prop.
Speaker 6: Sixty four.
Speaker 8: There was a tax on that they're supposed to fund
Speaker 8: substance abuse prevention when we legalize cannabis in California. We
Speaker 8: found three hundred and fifty million dollars of that site
Speaker 8: ANDed off into Democrat political activity, funding hundreds of nonprofits
Speaker 8: doing things like voter registration and ballot harvesting. Same from
Speaker 8: the fund that was supposed to put in low income
Speaker 8: apartments panels one hundred million dollars a year over ten years.
Speaker 8: That's the one billion dollars we found that seventy two
Speaker 8: million went to that nine hundred and twenty eight million.
Speaker 8: Most of it went to this Democrat political activity. To
Speaker 8: remember the fire aid money. That's where that money went
Speaker 8: from the La fives to these activist groups. Another example
Speaker 8: Churner the immigrant rights groups, the far left extremist group
Speaker 8: there that has an office in Mexico that is actually
Speaker 8: helping illegal immigrants come to the country. That is an
Speaker 8: organization eighty five percent funded by taxpayers in California. It
Speaker 8: was it was an integral part of the riots against
Speaker 8: ICE a year ago.
Speaker 6: What do they do?
Speaker 8: They take that money and use it for ballot harvesting,
Speaker 8: often paying in their own reporting, paying illegal immigrants to
Speaker 8: do the work with our money. This is the machine
Speaker 8: that's been built over years, and it comes into play
Speaker 8: at election time.
Speaker 6: We've got to build our own. That's why this.
Speaker 8: Campaign I'm running is going to be very, very different
Speaker 8: to anything you've seen before, because I'm very clear about
Speaker 8: what needs to be done, and we are not going
Speaker 8: to let them get away with it anymore because it's
Speaker 8: not We desperately need change in this state and we're
Speaker 8: not going to let this machine roll over us one
Speaker 8: more time.
Speaker 1: This year, we're talking to the next governor of cal
Speaker 1: Unicorna cal Unicornea god willing Steve Hilton. Hey, Steve, whether
Speaker 1: it's California or anywhere else, what is the government's role
Speaker 1: in the cost of housing? And since that it is
Speaker 1: got awful in California, what could a governor's administration do
Speaker 1: to help ease that brutal expense for people?
Speaker 8: Well, the simplest thing, Just as in so many areas
Speaker 8: of the high cost of living the highest in the
Speaker 8: country in California, the quickest way to get money into
Speaker 8: people's pockets is to stop taking so much out. So
Speaker 8: one of the most direct ways is to cap what
Speaker 8: they call impact fees. These are developer impact fees. Basically,
Speaker 8: there are attacks on housing.
Speaker 6: So when housing gets well, that developer pays these fees.
Speaker 8: There used to be just a few grand per unit.
Speaker 8: Now it's up to twenty percent of the cost of
Speaker 8: a new home is taxes paid by the house builder.
Speaker 8: Of course, then they're passed on to the house buyer,
Speaker 8: so we can put a cap on that. Secondly, the codes,
Speaker 8: the building codes are insanely complicated in California. They make
Speaker 8: it two or three times as expensive to build the
Speaker 8: exact same building in California as in neighboring states. That's
Speaker 8: under the direct control of the governor. We can simplify
Speaker 8: those codes and reduce the costs. That's before you even
Speaker 8: get into longer term changes like ending this insane density
Speaker 8: argument where all they ever want to let you build
Speaker 8: is you know, they put apartment buildings in suburban areas.
Speaker 8: We can open up land for development and build outwards,
Speaker 8: not upwards, so we can restore that dream of a
Speaker 8: single family home that you can afford to buy. So
Speaker 8: there are some longer term changes we can make, but
Speaker 8: in a short term, just stop taxing housing so much.
Speaker 1: Who do you think you need to win? Because like,
Speaker 1: we're on a lot of stations in California, all the
Speaker 1: big cities and a lot of smaller ones. But I'm
Speaker 1: guessing most of our listeners would tend to vote for
Speaker 1: you or whoever the Republican candidate was going to be. Anyway,
Speaker 1: how do you reach those Democrats who are sick of
Speaker 1: taxes or the dumb bullet trainer or drug addicts everywhere
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. How are you going to reach
Speaker 1: those people?
Speaker 8: Well, the first point actually is not to make the
Speaker 8: assumption you've just made. That's the truth is that most
Speaker 8: of the people who voted in the presidential year for
Speaker 8: President Trump in California would not vote in a midterm year.
Speaker 8: But if they did, if they did vote, then I
Speaker 8: would I just want to give you the numbers.
Speaker 6: If you look at a.
Speaker 8: Projection of how many votes will be cast in the
Speaker 8: general election this year in California, just based on the
Speaker 8: average of the last two midterm years twenty eighteen and
Speaker 8: twenty twenty two, you get a total of eleven point
Speaker 8: seven million. If you just do the simple math, when
Speaker 8: you need five point nine million votes, just over half
Speaker 8: of that. In twenty twenty four, the number of people
Speaker 8: who voted for President Trump in California six point one million.
Speaker 8: So if every single person who voted for President Trump
Speaker 8: votes for me, I'll be elected with hundreds.
Speaker 6: Of thousands of votes to spare.
Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8: Starts with it starts with making sure that you don't
Speaker 8: take it for granted and just turning out the Republican vote.
Speaker 8: That's the starting point. If we got one hundred percent
Speaker 8: of the presidential year turnout, then I would win without
Speaker 8: even thinking about converting new people. Now, you're not going
Speaker 8: to get one hundred per that's unrealistic.
Speaker 6: But the reason I.
Speaker 8: Mentioned that is that that's the starting point for a campaign.
Speaker 8: So everybody listening, if you vote, fantastic, thank you, that's great.
Speaker 8: But now your job is to get ten other people
Speaker 8: who you know, who you're your friends, who you know
Speaker 8: are Republicans and say, don't.
Speaker 6: Just sit this one out. Make sure you vote as well.
Speaker 8: If we all do it, then we can make it happen.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's a good point. And I would
Speaker 1: caution everybody against the well, you know, it's a democratic state,
Speaker 1: so why bother No, No, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 6: Fight, one hundred percent. That's the attitude.
Speaker 8: That's why I'm putting so much energy in this into
Speaker 8: this campaign. I have already You're going to see even
Speaker 8: more now because we've just got to We can do
Speaker 8: this if we get up off our knees and fight
Speaker 8: for the state that we love and say no enough
Speaker 8: of this insanity. We can't let it go down any further.
Speaker 8: To make or break for California. I really believe that
Speaker 8: so many businesses in the last year have said to me, honestly,
Speaker 8: if you don't you know, we're going to wait and
Speaker 8: see what happens in November.
Speaker 6: If you make it, we're good. But if you don't
Speaker 6: make it, we're out of here.
Speaker 8: And the exodus that we've seen of businesses is going
Speaker 8: to turn into a stampede and the California is heading
Speaker 8: to serious problems if we don't turn this around. But
Speaker 8: the good news is we can. And actually all you
Speaker 8: need is a common sense governor that gets government out
Speaker 8: of the way and provide the basics.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: It makes you know, roads that work, schools that teach
Speaker 8: public safety, all these basic things instead of what they're
Speaker 8: doing now, which is totally failing on the basic responsibilities
Speaker 8: of government, instead endlessly bossing us around, micromanaging us, telling
Speaker 8: us how to live our lives, where our businesses, raise
Speaker 8: our kids. We'kind of car to drive, We're going to
Speaker 8: house to live and have to cook our food.
Speaker 6: Enough, we're done. Just leave us alone. Okay.
Speaker 8: We play the highest taxes in the country.
Speaker 6: We get the worst results.
Speaker 8: That is not a good deal, and we can change
Speaker 8: it this year if we all show up and.
Speaker 1: Vote, and the real battle has just begun. Steve Hilton
Speaker 1: is ready for it, clearly. Steve, good to talk to you,
Speaker 1: stay in touch.
Speaker 6: Of course, great to be with you. Thank you. Yep.
Speaker 1: I like his strategy. How can that message not resonate? Well,
Speaker 1: it's because of either knee jerk I vote Democrat, which
Speaker 1: is fine, and the entrenched interests who are getting those
Speaker 1: hundreds of well it's hundreds of millions, it's billions of
Speaker 1: dollars of government largess. They're going to vote to keep
Speaker 1: the money flowing. It's machine politics that it's oldest and
Speaker 1: most time honored. But we the people, You the people, everybody.
Speaker 1: You've got to stand up for your interests and get
Speaker 1: your friends to turn out. Ah boy, here we go.
Speaker 1: We have several months. One of the lines is going
Speaker 1: to be let's elect the first Hispanic governor since eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy five. So make it identity politics around Bassarah.
Speaker 5: How about a brit hobbyer, my carea first former.
Speaker 1: Britt ever elected governor of California. As far as I know, Uh,
Speaker 1: people are betting on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey wedding.
Speaker 1: There are all kinds of prop bets on that. If
Speaker 1: you want to get involved. Yeah, Trump and company are
Speaker 1: trying to regulate those those prediction markets could be tough, interesting,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 8: I don't think they understand who they're dealing with here
Speaker 8: and what they're going to get from me and my campaign,
Speaker 8: not just in holding them accountable for their utter failure
Speaker 8: on every front, for the fact that Besarah him self
Speaker 8: is this, you know, perfectly amiable. I got to be honest,
Speaker 8: perfectly amiable but completely unaccomplished establishment nonentity.
Speaker 3: Hetty Knicks fans are blaming Trump for the loss and
Speaker 3: the Brasstad for Trump because approval rating in San Antonio
Speaker 3: is now one hundred percent, so worked.
Speaker 1: Out for him there that game four tonight the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: I expect fights. I don't understand. I don't see how
Speaker 1: there could not be a fight, maybe like after the
Speaker 1: tip off, because there's been so much chirping about the
Speaker 1: best player on the Spurs pushed the best player on
Speaker 1: the Knicks to the ground. It was the most egregious
Speaker 1: foul I've ever seen not called in an NBA game. Ever,
Speaker 1: there's lots of punching people or strangling them for various
Speaker 1: things that have happened over the decades in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but never won like this that didn't get called at all.
Speaker 1: And and all your ex NBA players are saying, you
Speaker 1: can't let that go. You can't let the other team
Speaker 1: try to hurt your star player and not fight back.
Speaker 1: So I think there's gonna be fights tonight. Did you
Speaker 1: see what former Knicks star Stefan Marbury said, Ah, he said,
Speaker 1: thirteen years in the NBA, nine seasons in the Chinese
Speaker 1: Basketball Association for Stephan Anyway, he said, Wemby's an international.
Speaker 1: They played dirty overseas, just so you know, we're not
Speaker 1: used to playing dirty in America the way Wemby just
Speaker 1: now through Jason Jalen Brunson. Now, if I'm watching film,
Speaker 1: I see Wemby throw somebody on my team the next game,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop him in his ribcage so hard with
Speaker 1: my elbow that he's going to fall and drop to
Speaker 1: the ground. He's going to wish he never put his
Speaker 1: hands on me. Next game. I guarantee you you better
Speaker 1: make sure you put that knife in his neck. Well,
Speaker 1: back in the day that would have been a bench
Speaker 1: clearing brawl after Wemby threw him to the ground like that.
Speaker 1: But it's a different league now and their fines are
Speaker 1: so high and everything like that. To Jalen Brunson's credit though,
Speaker 1: they lost, and he said, nah, I I am. I
Speaker 1: don't blame the refs. We could have done this. We
Speaker 1: should have done that, which was a really cool thing
Speaker 1: for the Star to say. That is great. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a manly thing to say. Having been thrown to the ground,
Speaker 1: and then the seven foot five inch when beyond a
Speaker 1: smiling at you like, how do you like that? That's
Speaker 1: hard to overlook. I'm not in favorite of any knives
Speaker 1: to anybody's neck, but yeah, oh, speaking of that, that troubling
Speaker 1: story out of Britain also next hour, the Southern Poverty
Speaker 1: Law Center gets to come up and see it is
Speaker 1: so richly deserved for so long in Congress yesterday. Oh,
Speaker 1: these highlights are great, don't miss them. Cool. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of good stuff on the way, and
Speaker 1: the war in Iran is a hot topic today too.
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