WEBVTT - 512 | Just Baseball's Top 100 Prospects: Biggest Risers

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<v Speaker 1>Any switch said, high deep, under standing, up deep to

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<v Speaker 1>shut her feel and it's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, his first big league swing, He's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>gland slam.

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<v Speaker 1>Home run swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Good time to Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>To the show. Welcome back to the Call Up, your

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<v Speaker 1>go to podcast on the future stars of Major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>and we continue this week of Top one hundred Prospect episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the theme for this week and next

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<v Speaker 1>week as well. We are doing the biggest risers today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's arm Light and Jack McMullen to break it down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll do another episode coming up on the

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<v Speaker 1>other newcomers. Then plenty more going into next week on

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<v Speaker 1>the top prospects in the entire list, and twenty more

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss as it pertains to the list and breaking

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<v Speaker 1>it all down. We're also going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>very dynamic and unique Rockies prospect making his big league debut.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jack, this is the first Top one hundred episode

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<v Speaker 1>with you since the update. Really excited to talk risers

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because with this first update we always get

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<v Speaker 1>some major movers, including one of the biggest, actually the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest riser in the history of US ranking Top one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred prospects here just baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you've got a guy that went from one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred to nine. I will save I guess I'll save

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<v Speaker 2>the actual name for the tail end of the episode

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<v Speaker 2>when we do that, because we're gonna work from lowest

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<v Speaker 2>on the top one hundred to highest on the top

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred. But I don't think I've ever seen you

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<v Speaker 2>go one hundred to nine with someone before. But this

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<v Speaker 2>was a guy that was out top twenty at one

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<v Speaker 2>point too. He was top five for some outlets way

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<v Speaker 2>back when. So it's just amazing to see the process.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're reading the tea leaves, chances are you

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, especially in this pre CBA expiration year and where

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<v Speaker 2>like prospect promotion is so heavily incentivized. You're seeing more

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<v Speaker 2>and more guys get up, and you're seeing more and

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<v Speaker 2>more guys get paid, like Bradon Montgomery just got up

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<v Speaker 2>and Luis Laura just got paid in the last forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours, which is awesome. Yeah, so like we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>more and more of this. You will see more and

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<v Speaker 2>more graduations and now with the league just skewing a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit younger and more exciting, you have that many

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<v Speaker 2>more prospects to rank, So heck of a job again, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>on this It's available obviously in the episode description and

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<v Speaker 2>then on Just Baseball dot com. It is such a

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<v Speaker 2>fun article to read every single time it is updated.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, man. And it's been really fun with

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<v Speaker 1>this grouping because we talked about it in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So many new faces, so many players that we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to discuss too much because it's a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five draft or maybe that emerged out of nowhere or

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of both. And with the Max exodus

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<v Speaker 1>that we had a lot of refreshing, you know, new

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<v Speaker 1>faces here on the and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>more of the risers. So these aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>as many of the new faces, but these are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be guys that really improve their stock since the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. But before we get into that, guy

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<v Speaker 1>that has improved his stock as well, and it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>within an arms reach of top one hundred prospect status

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<v Speaker 1>is called Carrig and he got called up for the Rockies.

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<v Speaker 1>He in his first big league game tripled. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the name of his game. He is I think

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Schaeffer said it in himself, the Rockies manager. He

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<v Speaker 1>plays with his hair on fire. It's exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel when you watch this cop B pick

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty three. Colt Carrig switch hitter that can

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<v Speaker 1>play all over the diamond. He caught some games in

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<v Speaker 1>the first days of his professional career that quickly were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're way too athletic to be in the squad. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do that anymore. And he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>shortstop and center field. Then over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years a lot more just center field, but then this

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<v Speaker 1>year a little bit more shortstop again. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>Carrig projects best in the outfield where he's played all

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<v Speaker 1>three spots. His speed can absolutely play in center, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's an asset to have a guy that you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, late game replacements wise, or you're subbing and

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<v Speaker 1>moving things around to be able to move a guy

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<v Speaker 1>into the dirt or spot start into the dirt. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's been fun to see the Rockies lean back into

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<v Speaker 1>that side of things. And then with Carrig, I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>playing in some hitter friendly environments of course, hitting in

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<v Speaker 1>in Albuquerque there, but that's what we have WRC plus

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<v Speaker 1>four and you know hit this slash line will play

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere three thirty eight, four, fourteen, five, twenty nine good

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<v Speaker 1>for a one to twenty nine WRC plus thirty bags

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<v Speaker 1>in fifty seven games for Keragin six homers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He can sneak, He's got some sneaky pop. He's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>one of the faster guys that you're gonna see and

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<v Speaker 1>immediately like probably the fastest guy on this Rocky scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also just the ability to impact the ball

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from both sides of the plate. At worst,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very dynamic super utility player. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think at cores where it's gonna hedge some of the

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<v Speaker 1>swing and miss that he's already hedged himself. His skill set,

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<v Speaker 1>his athleticism. This is a very fun player for the

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<v Speaker 1>Rockies to bring up in a year where, look, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hit the playoffs, but they're better.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think this is somebody that goes down

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<v Speaker 2>to Albuquerque when that decimated outfield becomes healthy again. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a guy that you're comfortable having

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<v Speaker 2>on your bench. And you mentioned the late game defensive situation,

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<v Speaker 2>the pinch running situation. If he keeps hitting, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get some pinch hit situations too. Troy Johnston's not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy has been one of these surprises offensively in

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<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball. But Jake McCarthy has been a heck

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot better than I was ever anticipating. Jake

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy would be, to be honest with you. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they've got some other guys that they are committed to

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the IL right now, right Mickey Moniac.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on the IL with an ankle sprain. Tyler Freeman

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<v Speaker 2>just hit the IL. That's why Carig got up. Brenton

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<v Speaker 2>Doyle is on the IL with an oblique issue. Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Beck is on the IL with a hamstring strain. So

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<v Speaker 2>you've got four outfielders that are on the shelf and

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<v Speaker 2>Carig is up. Carig is going to play pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>every day while Freeman is out and while the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the outfielders are out. But when those guys get healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>Carriig is somebody that can fill in for Tovar, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been brutal so far this year. He's somebody that can

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<v Speaker 2>fill in in all three outfield spots. You mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>shortened center thing. He played like six games and left

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<v Speaker 2>in six games and right in twenty twenty five in Hartford,

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<v Speaker 2>but this year was back to shortened center. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>super valuable piece. Oh yeah, and if you can play

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<v Speaker 2>shortened center, I automatically call you like a super utility

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<v Speaker 2>guy that can play absolutely anywhere on the diamond.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the switch hitting, the speed, the stolen base ability, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna have a spot on a roster whether

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<v Speaker 1>he reaches his offensive potential or not for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. But the exciting part is he's reaching closer

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<v Speaker 1>to that offensive potential.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna start calling this guy, what do you need? Guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he can just go up to the manager and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, what do you need? I got you you need?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, cole Kerrig is a what do you need guy?

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of Willie castrosh except better athlete, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a gether actually like making it and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's got to make some strides to hit like

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<v Speaker 1>castro Is hitt in stronger seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>But best what do you need guy? In baseball? Mauricio Dubon,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you need? I got you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's freaking all and that probably fits the bill

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<v Speaker 1>even more with the defensive value that you get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing, I'll mention twelve percent cut in the strikeout

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<v Speaker 1>rate this year at TRIPLEA compared to double A last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really exciting there for Carrig. Hopefully it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>long look here, and I agree I think he will

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<v Speaker 1>with the Rockies. Let's get into the biggest risers here,

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<v Speaker 1>where we've got again some masitive jumped record amounts of spots,

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<v Speaker 1>but plenty of others that I'm excited to highlight here. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, the link for the list is in the

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<v Speaker 1>episode description.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to start us off with Kendree Chorio,

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<v Speaker 2>the pitching prospect for the Kansas City Royals. Because Chorio

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<v Speaker 2>was at ninety six on the preseason update. He's up

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<v Speaker 2>to seventy three now. Kendree Chorio again of the Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City Royals, a teenage pitching prospect. Why do you love

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<v Speaker 2>him this much?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Chorio? Man, just just the numbers. Look at this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single time you check in. He just has not

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down, and he's so ahead of his year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at a eighteen year old, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't turn nineteen years old until October first of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>who already has success at Lowe under his belt. He

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<v Speaker 1>was okay at the end of our shirt Lowa in

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<v Speaker 1>his age aged seventeen season, which the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 1>even there is remarkable. And then this year in his

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<v Speaker 1>age eighteen season, forty two innings, he's pitched to a

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<v Speaker 1>one seven to one el for low A Columbia, forty strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 1>eight walks. To be doing what he is doing is ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might think, oh, well, is this another like pitchability,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, teenager, Like, what's it going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>against more challenging competition. He throws ninety six and look,

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<v Speaker 1>the shape could be better. So I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>like aspects of that rhetorical that I just asked that

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<v Speaker 1>are maybe valid, but they would rear their heads until

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<v Speaker 1>like double A and triple A and maybe by then

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing ninety nine. Who knows, like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that with a smooth, easy delivery, six feet one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five pounds is sitting ninety six and

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<v Speaker 1>touching ninety eight plus. Yeah, the shape could be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better, but you look at the pitch mix

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<v Speaker 1>man and yeah, it's three above average offerings that I

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<v Speaker 1>think will develop into plus with what looks like plus command.

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<v Speaker 1>I can very soundly knowing that this guy's going to

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<v Speaker 1>at worst eight innings as a back end of the

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<v Speaker 1>rotation starter. But you figure there's a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>for Chorio. Now, Hukui is a great field to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball and just a good field to spin it

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<v Speaker 1>to develop as just a more well rounded arsenal, Like

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<v Speaker 1>why can't Chorio find that cutter or or that slider

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<v Speaker 1>or that sinker and really just develop, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>more well rounded pitch mix.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet on the guys that throw like a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four year old when they're eighteen or nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are very very few guys in the DSL

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<v Speaker 2>or at the complex or even in low A before

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years old that actually don't look nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kendrick Chorio. It seems like from what you're laying

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<v Speaker 2>out is a guy that throws like a college kid

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<v Speaker 2>that happens to be eighteen that's throwing up the complex

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<v Speaker 2>right now, which is fun and more room to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Another guy college kid staying in the al Central. Kaylan

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<v Speaker 2>Culpeper was a first round pick of the Minnesota Twins

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty four out of Kansas State, and all

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<v Speaker 2>Kaylan Culpeper has done in the Upper Miners, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>over the last year and a half is mash Kaylan

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<v Speaker 2>Culpeper last year between high end Double A one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirteen games, hit two ninety with twenty homers, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five bags in twenty nine attempts, and an eight forty

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<v Speaker 2>four ops. He's been better this year fifty seven games

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<v Speaker 2>with Triple A Saint Paul, fourteen homers, forty driven in

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen for fifteen in the stolen based department, keeping the

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<v Speaker 2>k rate in check and opsing eight seventy. You have

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<v Speaker 2>Culpeper up to sixty one. Kaylan Culpeper was previously at

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four on your list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think a big part of that is that

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<v Speaker 1>Culpeper is just held serf and if, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything's gotten a little bit better at a higher level,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other guys ahead of him have graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>and you also have a lot of times these players

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<v Speaker 1>don't maybe repeat or completely match what they did and

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of coming out party season. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>Colepepper is doing again this year. If anything, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>slightly better across the board. I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>though that stands out to me is Colepepper sitting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball a lot harder. And that was the aspect where

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<v Speaker 1>Colepepper's a very much as some of his parts. Guy

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<v Speaker 1>not a clear plus tool, but you look at above

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<v Speaker 1>average field to hit at least average power because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he's able to drive it in the

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<v Speaker 1>air consistently, he air poles and just again I think

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<v Speaker 1>is able to maximize what he's got. The approach has

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<v Speaker 1>always been fine, I think, or at least that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the area where he needs to get better. He can

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<v Speaker 1>struggle at recognizing spin sometimes that's gotten a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better this year. He's got the chase rate by five

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<v Speaker 1>percent and then again the hard hit rates up like

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen percent. He can play shortstop. Is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>be off the charts? No, But I always forecasted him

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<v Speaker 1>as an average to slightly above average every day shortstop,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just continues to look more and more like

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<v Speaker 1>that at a higher level. So he's basically just solidifying

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<v Speaker 1>his floor in his foundation more and more. Well, just

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<v Speaker 1>ever so slightly improving that ceiling. So the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me though, is seeing how much more consistently he's

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<v Speaker 1>finding the barrel. And when you see that hard hit

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<v Speaker 1>ray jump by fourteen percent, I mean, that's obviously going

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<v Speaker 1>to come with a lot more excitement around him to

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<v Speaker 1>be a pair of that. With a few percentage points

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<v Speaker 1>better in the bats of ball department and five percentage

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<v Speaker 1>points better in the chase department, you've got a really

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<v Speaker 1>good player here. Nothing is quite going to be that

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<v Speaker 1>eye catching aspect for him, but he's a gamer that

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<v Speaker 1>just does everything pretty well. And the last little thing

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<v Speaker 1>to monitor here, which has already gotten better, is the

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<v Speaker 1>swing decisions against spin. Last year it was a forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent chase rate against secondaries, actually forty against breaking balls,

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<v Speaker 1>forty two against secondaries. This year it's about thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent against breaking balls and thirty two overall against secondary

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<v Speaker 1>So it could get a little bit better, but that

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<v Speaker 1>that is much more into the range of reasonability, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with how selective he is fastball wise in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>not expanding the zone and attacking the pitches that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to hit within it. And when you have the

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<v Speaker 1>uptick in quality of contact, I mean there's a world

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe you can dream on above average pop here

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<v Speaker 1>as well. With how much harder he said, He's hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to pair with the angles that have always

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<v Speaker 1>been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Exciting stuff for Kaylin Culpepper. Back to the mound, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Jack Weninger with the New York Mets. Weninger,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, just click for me went to Kerry

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<v Speaker 2>Grove High School, two years younger than Quinn Priester. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to assume that they were teammates at Carrie Grove,

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<v Speaker 2>so Wenener and Quinn Priester might have been sharing a

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<v Speaker 2>rotation in the Chicago Land suburbs, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fun in high school. But Weninger is up from eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven to fifty six on the top one hundred list.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four year old young twenty four year old taken

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<v Speaker 2>out a u OFI in twenty twenty three. But Weenener

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<v Speaker 2>so far this year, after a great showing with double

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<v Speaker 2>a Binghamton last year, has been better.

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<v Speaker 1>In Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 2>The third innings at a two seven era, He's punched

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<v Speaker 2>out forty nine. He's walking five hitters fifty like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. But he still rose about thirty spots for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was a little bit of like a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of okay, guy that is benefited from the graduations ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of him, but at the same time the newcomers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Wheningers walking guys a little bit more this year is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough for me to, i think, relegate him behind

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<v Speaker 1>some of these newcomers. And that's just where I'm at here.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't quite been the year that I think you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see. But to your point, he's been better

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<v Speaker 1>still from an era perspective, which I think does say

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about just his ability to get whiffs when

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to, get the week contact when he needs to,

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<v Speaker 1>and maintain composure and poys. I have been surprised to

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<v Speaker 1>see the command back up the way that it has,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, this is guy that initially projected us

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<v Speaker 1>with above average command. But I think there's been some

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<v Speaker 1>adjustment to that triple A ball that we see with

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys that just kind of getting used to

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<v Speaker 1>this slick aspect of it and just the different feel

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<v Speaker 1>to it that I think is happening here with Wenninger.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that he has still been as solid

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<v Speaker 1>at preventing runs as he has been despite the command backup,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is extremely encouraging. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the last you know, handful of starts. Overall, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of duds in there. There's been a couple

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<v Speaker 1>dominant outings. He had a stretch of sixteen and two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds consecutive innings without allowing an earned run. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to string together the consistency here. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more of him holding his spot despite new

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<v Speaker 1>names kind of creeping up behind him and names ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of him graduating. But this is one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll talk about where it's like it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing something tangibly better than he was doing last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not a new name to the list, but a

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<v Speaker 2>high riser is an eighteen year old in the Guardian

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<v Speaker 2>system by the name of Junaker Casceras Cassara's you have

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<v Speaker 2>rising from eighty six to forty four, and it's because

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<v Speaker 2>this guy has been awesome as a Hill City howler

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<v Speaker 2>in his age eighteen season. He's eighteen until August fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>and Cassara's in twenty nine games, hitting three ten, walking

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<v Speaker 2>more than he's punched out, and hit five homers. In

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Virginia. It's kind of humid in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this guy's really fun man, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>just scraping the surface of what he can be. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about an eighteen year old at low Way that

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<v Speaker 1>is keeping a strikeout right below ten percent, is starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that power as you mentioned, and also

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<v Speaker 1>running extremely low chase rates. I just to be and

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<v Speaker 1>also I'm looking at I've talked about him in like

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<v Speaker 1>his operation, and I always felt like he was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy he kind of stepped he was stepping in the

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<v Speaker 1>bucket previously, kind of flying open a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>still having the success bat to ball wise and production

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<v Speaker 1>wise that he was having. He seems to have made

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<v Speaker 1>some improvements there where you seem kind of coiling and

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<v Speaker 1>has this rhythmic load in to his backside. He can

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<v Speaker 1>still leak out a little bit, but it's already getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're seeing an eighteen year old clean up his

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics after already having success at low A last year

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<v Speaker 1>and dominating the complex. So now have success this year

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<v Speaker 1>at low Way and still be making these tweaks and

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<v Speaker 1>getting better is so so exciting. But when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the underlying numbers. It's only a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one percent in zone contact rate and an eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent contact rate, So the overall contact rate's only two

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<v Speaker 1>percent lower than the zone contact rate. That just shows

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<v Speaker 1>you how good the feel for the barrel is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty five percent out of zone contact rates. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have a guy that doesn't chase, and when he

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<v Speaker 1>does chase will immediately spoil and or drive it still,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can't beat him in the zone either.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how a guy at eighteen years old at low

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<v Speaker 1>A strikes out less than ten percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You pair that with above average batspeed, and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a rocket ship dude. I really think by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this year he's going to be a consensus

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<v Speaker 1>tough fifteen. I can't believe he's not on every top

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred list right now. I get it because it's early,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but we we've seen as an industry

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<v Speaker 1>now like on out, ones are very eager to throw

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<v Speaker 1>a complex get on there or DSL get on there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't blame him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already off the complex. He's already in low A.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my thing. So I don't know where the lag

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<v Speaker 1>is here. With Cassras because the underlying's great, the surface

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<v Speaker 1>levels good. He's still extremely young, and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more to dream onto.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. All right, next guy that we got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about here is a big leaguer, Logan Henderson, who has

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<v Speaker 2>yet to fully graduate. Henderson just id fifty innings unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>on the IL right now, seventeen and two thirds with

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<v Speaker 2>Triple A Nashville this year at a one point oh

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<v Speaker 2>two ERA off of five starts. Last year in Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 2>had a one seven eight ERA five more starts at

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<v Speaker 2>a two seven this year, punched out thirty and walked

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<v Speaker 2>six in twenty three innings of work. So in ten

0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.240
<v Speaker 2>major league starts he's five and one with a two

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<v Speaker 2>to two three ERA, punching out sixty three guys and

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<v Speaker 2>walking fourteen and forty eight and a third and a

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<v Speaker 2>career minor league e RA of three point one one.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about Logan Henderson, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, there might be nothing new with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a whole bunch of pitches, really good command,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a good major league pitcher at this point

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<v Speaker 2>when healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is like I'm ranking a big leaguer compared

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<v Speaker 1>to these these other minor league guys, and it's just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he's just so good in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the five and dive roll even but like we've seen

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.720
<v Speaker 1>him go deeper now, like he eats six innings in

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<v Speaker 1>one of his outings already this year. We saw him

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<v Speaker 1>do it a little bit last year as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Henderson is you're asking me to compare a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's proven that he's a big league starter at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. Now the question is just ceiling versus floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's really solidified the the both. I

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<v Speaker 1>think because the question before is like, Okay, it's four

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<v Speaker 1>seamer that has some outlier characteristics and then a really

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<v Speaker 1>good change up off of that, and those two pitches

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.679
<v Speaker 1>are going to get, you know, be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>big league hitterers out at a pretty consistent clip. But

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<v Speaker 1>what happened second third time through the lineup, and that

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:54.639
<v Speaker 1>was where he needed to find a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>consistency with the rest of his offerings. And that's exactly

0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.760
<v Speaker 1>what he's done now with mixing and a cutter that

0:19:59.920 --> 0:20:02.440
<v Speaker 1>is been really effective for him and I think is

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 1>turned into an average third pitch just being able to

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<v Speaker 1>mix in twenty percent of the time a third look

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that is solid when you have two plus or better

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.440
<v Speaker 1>pitches and fantastic command. All of a sudden, Henderson instead

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<v Speaker 1>of looking more like a back into the rotation five

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got he looks like a middle rotation type

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<v Speaker 1>of arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Unfortunately the next guy also on the il much

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<v Speaker 2>like Logan Henderson, but a fun name to see rise

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<v Speaker 2>this much. Previously at ninety five, now at twenty seven,

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Argin Namala of the Toronto Blue Jays. Namala is a

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty prospect in baseball according to ARM and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just baseball dot com. Uh. Argin Namala is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that was opsing under seven hundred last year. It's north

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<v Speaker 2>of eight hundred this year. He got up to double

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 2>a in his age twenty season. That's where he got hurt, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>But Namala is a guy that I know you have

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<v Speaker 2>long been high on and it's just fun to see

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<v Speaker 2>him slug a little bit again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're seeing him really get into that slug now.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the fun part about updating the rite

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<v Speaker 1>up is I mean, the uptick in quality of contacts

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>for them all is crazy and I think it still

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even fully translating into that uptick and slug that

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<v Speaker 1>I think we would have seen. And we'll see if

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 1>he was available and didn't hit the il there. But

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<v Speaker 1>the approach has gotten better. The quality of contact in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the evs is just I think it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the bigger jumps we saw in minor league baseball

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<v Speaker 1>so far this year. The swing decisions are better, he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to develop into what looks like an above average shortstop.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you look at is encouraging. The biggest thing for me, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is seeing that and what we always liked about him

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<v Speaker 1>in the early going of his pro career was, man,

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 1>he can move that that fast, and now we're really

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that shine through. Average bat speed this year north

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<v Speaker 1>of seventy four miles per hour. I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>comfortably in the plus territory average EGXA velocity of ninety

0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>one point five miles per hour, which is up three

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour from the year power and ninety percent

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>telex of LOSSI I believe I remember correct, He's up

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<v Speaker 1>to like one hundred and eight miles per hour this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, crazy stuff there. So there's still some things

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:10.199
<v Speaker 1>he needs to show her up. I think the hit

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>tool is ultimately always gonna be fringy, but he's proven

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that he can hammer fastballs. He's recognizing spin better, but

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>he needs to i think, be able to drive it

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit more consistently, kind of leaves it sometimes and

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.200
<v Speaker 1>can pull off of it. But we saw improvements I

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<v Speaker 1>think across the board this year that, hopefully, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not out for too long with the injury, will really

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>validate what is an improved season. This is not an

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>easy jump from High A to Double A, and he

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>started the year in High A again like they repeated

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>him there for a second. Then he quickly proved that

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 1>he's just much better and too good for the level

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gets up to double was holding his own there before

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the injury. I'm very excited to see what Namala can do,

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 1>assuming he comes back relatively quickly and it is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is better than plus raw power that he's

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>still warning to tap into. But I think he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>closer and closer to doing I'm.

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Going to clump the next two together for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of timing and also for the sake of a league conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Bozana, The Guardians makes the jump from forty six

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to twenty two. Ryan Walschmidt the Diamondbacks makes the jump

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<v Speaker 2>from forty four to twenty one. Do you feel like

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>you could push Bizana higher and higher by the day,

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>because what that guy is doing at the tippy top

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 2>of the Guardian lineup has been outstanding. Meanwhile, Walschmid has

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 2>had a really nice start to his major league career too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the challenging you know, I think juggle with

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>these two is is Bizan I think has proven that, like,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna hit at the big league level, right,

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's we always love the floor with him.

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I think where and why we him a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>lower maybe than others is that I feel like from

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a war perspective, which you've talked about a little bit

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in the last few episodes, is Bazana has got to

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>be like a one thirty WRC plus to get to

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>that three plus war because I think the second base

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>defense is a little bit limiting there and maybe it

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 1>gets better as as time passes. I just I just

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>am not entirely confident in that from watching him over

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the years. So if you're gonna be you know, in

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>if he second baseman we've seen within Brandon low like

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>he's got to really really hit, Like he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>really really really hit to eclipse to war totals that

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>he he you know, if you want to get to

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>three four war because the defense isn't very good, Like

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where I think it's gonna be for Bazana.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think he's gonna really really hit, and he

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>gives you value with his legs as well, and so

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>there's other aspects that I think are encouraging. And he's

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>got the work ethics, so maybe he can improve defensively.

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>The reason why he climbed so much, though, is because

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>we saw him improve I think across the board this

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>year too. There was some question of like, okay, is

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>this hit tool gonna be closer to average, Like there

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of whiff in the early going of

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>his pro career, and he started to wonder like maybe

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 1>was it Pac twelve competition that he just wasn't seeing

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>as good of arms And maybe he's gonna be still

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 1>a really productive player, but maybe it's gonna be a

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of the three true outcomes professionally. And

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>then this year just shows up and better bat to

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball also, I think balancing still that desire to

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>destroy base balls without it coming with the whiff that

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>we saw kind of uptick, and then he has translated

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that immediately to the big leagues, where, if anything, he's

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>actually been better in that regard. I think he's a

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>guy that more information at his disposal, more scouting reports

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that helps a guy like Travis Bizon, and I think

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing that. And for the strikeout rate to be

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>right at just below twenty percent in his big league debut,

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>when last year at Triple A or just last year

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>overall in the season it was twenty four percent and

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at Triple A was twenty seven percent, we're seeing a

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>really solid improvement from a guy that was always going

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>to have the plate discipline, was always going to give

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:38.919
<v Speaker 1>you at least average power. But now when that hit

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>tool is comfortably above average, I think you feel a

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>lot better about his ability to be that twenty to

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent above average bat that whole need.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>To be to be the three plus war guy got

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>you and then Walt Schmidt real quick.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Wald Schmidt. For me, the offense has been more of

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the same, which is what we kind of expected. Three

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>true outcome bat that can really get into it to

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the pole side what I And it's interesting that he

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>has not yet left the yard though, in thirty games

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so far this year, and that's something that you know,

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to wait and see. Remember this is a

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>long term projection, not just what you've you done for

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 1>me lately, but for Walshmint the defensive improvements where you've

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>got a guy that you know, went from being shaky defensively,

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>or at least that was the perception in college, to

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>now being able to go play a viable center field

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>for you from a war perspective, that's obviously going to

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>give him a little bit more of an advantage. He

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>also gives you similar value on the base paths. I

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>think there's a little bit more power potential to dream

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>on though we're not seeing him get into it right now.

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And then the play discipline is comparably great. So there's

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>actually a lot of similarities with these guys offensively. And

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think then with of course Bizana being a little

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>bit more high floor because of his back to ball skills,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>then the other exchange is that wals Schmidt is going

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to give you more value with the glove, where it's

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>either going to be an above average corner or a

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>solid at center field. So I'm really interested. It's like

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of choose your flavor type of situation. I think

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Bizana's floor offensively is comfortably higher, but wald Schmidt's maybe

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>overall floor from a war perspective, maybe a little bit

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>higher because of the defensive value that he brings you.

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I could see this one going.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, though, and that's why you're splitting hairs here,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Before we get to another minor leaguer, I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this's a fun one. Liz has been doing some

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<v Speaker 1>Raley card and our guys a Marine Layer and Series

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<v Speaker 1>two there's always some really cool like random you go,

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0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.720
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's get to another guy here in

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<v Speaker 2>a Yankee prospect George Lombard, Junior Lombard one of the

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>bigger risers on Just Baseball's Top one hundred update, he

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>goes from fifty three to twenty. What about Lombard and

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>his season in the upper minors has you most encouraged

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 2>right now?

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I just keep thinking about every time I talk what

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>we talk about him, is that that the pump fake

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>like call up, like promotion from Double A A.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Big you know you're going to Scranton, baby Electric City here,

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I come.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can't be filming, uh, promotions from level to

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>level like that in the manager's office just can't happen.

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean that though, like the fact that

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he has been so good that he you know, in

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a year like in the year prior where he understandably

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of battled a little bit at the once he

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>was quickly pushed a Double A. It just seems like

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he gathers the information, he returns there and he just

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>gets better, and I think that's what what you kind

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of just love about George Lombard another player where I

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>think I think the floor and ceiling get confused with

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy like this because you see him and say,

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>oh man, this guy can be's trying to like, look good,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>look how good he is already? I think the reason

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>why he's so good already is because the floor is there.

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>There aren't even though he's got a little bit of

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a bigger frame, and maybe you can always grow into

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>more power, but there isn't anything that jumps off the

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>page to me when it comes to the tools. But

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>there's also you're hard pressed to find a deficiency in

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>his game. He looks like a solid defender on the

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>left side of the infield, and you know has all

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the ingredients to ticket short. He's a good runner, superb

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>plate discipline, So maybe that would be what jumps off

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the page, but that's not really something that you're like, wow,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>look at the plate discipline. That's gonna be something that

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you see over time and in the field of hit

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>is good. I think that's the other area where it's

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting to see how that continues to develop.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to assess because he has been so

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>aggressively pushed and he has battle battle battled, and then

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>settles in and then is great. And I think we've

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>seen that each time. Right twenty twenty four he gets

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine games at high A eighty seven WRC plus.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five, he starts a season for twenty four

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>games and completely obliterates it. Twenty twenty five, he finishes

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the year at double A for one hundred and eight

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>games and starts slow, finishes strong, and then in twenty

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty six starts the year again at double A, obliterates it,

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gets up to triple A. And right now we're in

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that working through it phase. I think you can kind

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of guess what's probably gonna happen here is gonna get

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>better and better and better is your progresses. And then

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>if he will see if they get crazy, calm up.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll do that. If he returns next

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>year to triple A, I bet you he torches it.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's a big reason why this guy keeps climbing,

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>is you just know that he is going to get

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>better and better and settle in and just maximize his abilities.

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He's rarely going to get himself out in the box.

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>He's rarely going to make an unforced error relative to

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>other players his age in the field. He gives you

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>value on the base pats and you still have the

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>ability to dream on more impact. And you know him

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>growing into a bit more power, which I mean if

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he gets to that average or above average pop. I mean,

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the sum of his parts here is just an above

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>average every day shortstop.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Next guy that we want to talk about here

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>staying in the American League East, THEO Gillan of the

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay Rays. You've got Gillan up from seventy five

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to nineteen, you were already one of the high guys

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>on Gillan. Now you are so far and away the

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>highest guy on THEO Gillan. It seems like Gillan is

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>making his case for Minor League Player of the Year

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean he's hitting three twenty two and

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>forty six games in High A with ten homers, twenty

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>two bags and twenty five attempts and an ops over

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 2>one thousand right now as a twenty year old in HYA.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>If the season ended today and it couldn't be Jacob

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Gonzalez is THEO Gillan your minor league player of the

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>year right.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Now, Hey, he might be unless there's somebody off that

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm just forgetting off the top of my

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>head right now.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Like Serota's hitting three thirty seven with ten homers.

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>He's also gotten in base like forty six straight games.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>That guy is unbelievable. But I think Theo's got a

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>strong case because we're gonna look at a player here

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that when you start to the stat queries of like

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>who's hit twenty homers and stole fifty bags, I don't

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna be anybody other than potentially THEO gilling

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>who's got ten bags. And it's not the high volume

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>high like you know, just spamming it getting thrown out

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>bags last year was thirty six for thirty nine, and

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>this year it's twenty two for twenty five. In the

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>stolen based department, the raw power, and this is why

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about him LA last years, like he's

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>just scraping the surface, which is crazy to say about.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I get that had a one fifty one WRC plus

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>last year. He's just scraping the surface, Like he's hitting

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball so hard. Just wait till Gillan starts elevating

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>more and settles in a little bit more and is healthy.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And he's healthy this year, and we're seeing the uptick

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in game power now all of a sudden. He had

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>five homers in seventy three games last year. He's doubled

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that in forty six games this year. And the peripherals

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>are just ridiculous. He's hitting the living crap out of

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the baseball. So you pair the plus raw power comfortably

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>with I think there's a little bit more swing and

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>miss in there. Maybe then people are are giving him

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>credit for at this point, But I don't see it

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>as like a liability. And I still think he's going

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to get to that, you know, average ish hit tool.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>It's hedged by the superb plate discipline, the plus power,

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and the field to be able to pull the ball

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>in the air at a pretty consistent clip. I'm trying

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to pull up where his EV ninety stacked up to,

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the other guys here, and I

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 1>mean one hundred and eight mile per hour ninetieth percentile

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>eggs of velocity for a guy that is twenty years

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>old and really is only played entering this year. It

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>only played eighty professional games, there's still more room for

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>strength in that frame. He still flies and the biggest

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>thing for me was the defensive video with Gillan. He

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>still got some ways to go. But remember this was

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a player that was in the that was an infielders

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>as a high schooler, dealt with a lot of injuries

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and made the move to centerfield immediately. The put him

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>straight out there and has gotten better and better and better.

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>And to me, with the speed, he looks like somebody

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that can develop into you know, at least an average

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>center field or maybe above average and with all the

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>aforementioned tools, that could be a superstar.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>So host sway Depaula another guy with star potential. I

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know about superstar potential like Gillan, but Hostwaid Depaula

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>through fifty five games in double A mindview. He just

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 2>turned twenty one years old two weeks ago. Depaula in

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>fifty five games, hitting three fourteen, with thirty extra base

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>hits and sixteen bags, already walking more than he's punched out,

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and he's got a nine to fifty four ops. Depaula

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>has fluctuated a bit on the top one hundred, but

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't really fallen below like sixty or seventy. He

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 2>was at forty one on the preseason update. He's at

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>eighteen now. I mean, this guy, is he close to

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>untouchable at it? At the trade deadline, like I'm thinking about, Okay,

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers make a move for Schooble. If Scott Harrisks

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is asking for Depaula, you probably say no. If they're

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>asking for Hope, you probably say yes. That's where I'm

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>at right now.

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not far off of that. And it's crazy because

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>at the start of this year I was completely in

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a different, different camp there. And the big reason why

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>is I had two clear cut concerns with him last year,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and one, you know, the most definitive being his ability

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to stay back on secondaries. He makes a mechanical adjustment

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and is able to now not only stay back with

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>his weight but his path. Man, he's in the zone

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>so much longer now. And it's kind of a funny

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>feel that he has found where you see the way

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that he set up, it's like the bats kind of

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>draped or just kind of resting just below his back shoulder.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like the barrel is like it looks

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>like the barrel weighs an extra ten pounds or something

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like that, with the way that he's kind of letting

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>it dangle behind him. But that's clearly a feel to

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to gonna get the barrel working behind him,

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and then he's made the adjustments to be able to

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>stay back with his weight, and we will get a

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>guy that I was very concerned about his ability to

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>hit spin and the quality of contact against spin. He

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>went from seven to eight oh ps against breaking balls

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>last year to nine to ninety one this year. Mind you,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>this is at the double A level, whereas it was

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>both levels last year. The other aspect is the underlying

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>quality of contact. Went from an eighty five point eight

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour average ex of velocity against breaking balls

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>last year ninety three point five this year. He's pillaging spin.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with changeups and splitters. So you take that,

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you take the fact that his overall contact rates up

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>eight percent, and it's not just the breaking balls. He's

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>better against fastballs too, it's just better against everything. He's

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>up to his contact right against heaters by seven percent,

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's produced a nine to ninety seven ops against those.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think, looking back, I was too harsh on a

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 1>hitter that was twenty years old getting up to double

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>A and even just like just seeing in the past,

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like you struggle with the spin, struggle with to spend

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>the same kind of frustrating swings. But he's never really

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>faced adversity and he's been such a productive hitter at

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>every single stop, so I think that, you know, and

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>putting him at where where he had him before, closer

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to the middle of the top one hundred, was probably

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit harsh. I just felt like there was

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on the bat, given that you're not

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a ton of value beyond the bat, but

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he's still now showing that he can give you some

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>value on the base paths. I think he's gonna be

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it won't be a liability in the outfield, and that

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in itself is helpful. But it just has been amazing

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to see him make that mechanical adjustment and just tap

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>into this power on a different level. He had twelve

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve homers last year in one hundred and two games.

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>He's got ten and fifty five this year. So I

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>think just looking at it last year and seeing the

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>struggles at high A with spin, I thought man this

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>might really really it's set at double A and it's

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite that the peripherals are way better and

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>overall everything is better. And it's just it's been amazing

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to see he's walking more than he's striking out.

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>If you're not tapped into Tulsa Driller Baseball, that's the

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>best outfield in minor league baseball. And it's not close.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>It's insane with Depaula, with Hope, with Sarota and Kendall

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>George obviously hurt, but Kendall George at the beginning of

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the year too, Like that is must watch every single night.

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 2>So tap into your Driller Baseball, get a T shirt?

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you Ralphi Velaskiz We've talked about a lot

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of episodes, but why is Ralphie

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>up forty spots from fifty seven to seventeen?

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just such a sound power profile, like

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about, Like, it's just it's just so easy

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to buy into what this guy is going to be offensively,

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think him and to Paula now are quite similar.

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I can understand people making the case

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>for Depaula as well, but I think the fun part

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>here is that, you know, you've got a guy in

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Ralphie who turned twenty one years old two weeks ago

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and is already at Triple A and just hit his

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 1>first homer the other day at the level and starting

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to settle in pretty quickly there. But as decimated made

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.919
<v Speaker 1>a mockery of Double A twenty eight games in twenty

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five one eighty eight WRC plus to close out

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the year, and then thirty six games to start the

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>year this year at Double A a one to sixty

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>one WRC plus. It's just wild stuff from a guy

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that for a power, you know, first base prep profile,

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.479
<v Speaker 1>you'd think that it would be more station to station.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>It's been anything but that. And there's been a shift

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>since the second half of last year that just has

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>been continuous where this guy it's good back to ball,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's great power, it's great angles, it's improved swing decisions.

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And this guy, I think is i'd one of the

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>more just sound power profiles that you've got in the

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>minor leagues that has been able to get into it

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 1>much eat more easily than most twenty year olds now

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>newly turned twenty one year olds due you know, in

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the upper levels.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, we are going to get to the final

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.080
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0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.879
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<v Speaker 2>can control. Time to talk Duno Alfredo Duno with the

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Reds is showing off the high level thump that

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.439
<v Speaker 2>he had last year. The big difference between last year

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and this year is the walk to punch out was unbelievable.

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Last year he walked ninety five times as a nineteen

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.240
<v Speaker 2>year old catcher Alfredo Duno, but this year hasn't walked

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>as much. He's punching out a bit more. But Duno

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>hitting two fifty with an eight to eighty ops in

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Dayton and he doesn't turn twenty one until next January.

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Alfredo Duno up from forty two to eleven, even though

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the standard numbers would indicate slight down turn as he

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>climbs in level. What has you most encourage about his

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 2>starting hya?

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>He's hitting the living crap out of the baseball and

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>it's just you watch this guy continue to develop as

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a hitter. And yeah, I know he's whiffing a little

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>bit more, but it's important to remember, I mean, Duno

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>missed out on a fair amount of reps at the

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>lower levels. Last year was the first full season he's

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>ever really played, and he had the year that he had,

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>and then Musa him the airs on a fall league

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>where there's a lot of reasons to be encouraged by

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>what he was doing out there. The ability to hit

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball as hard as he does consistently and in

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the air consistently is just ridiculous. I mean, we're already

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing him hit homers, you know, four hundred and eighty

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>feet like it's just it's nuts. The power that this

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>guy has and seeing him get into it with better

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>mechanics and the athleticism in the box and developing defensively,

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be a little bit more of a process.

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think he's getting better and better as you

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>check in. The makeup is just so ahead of his

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>years as well, and you hear nothing but great things

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>about the way he goes about his business. Skid was

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen years old at the start of the season and

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>has gotten up to hia and has been able to

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>get to his power at a clip even more ridiculous

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>than he was, you know last year. Eighteen homers one

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred thirteen games is great. The fact that he's already

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>got twelve and fifty and is look. I think some

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>of the strikeout up tick is the fact that he's

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>so willing to go deep into these counts, but the

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>ability to recognize spin, the ability to still spoil, I

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>think is impressive too. When he's getting you know, an

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a swing off geared for airpole, he still has a

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that adjustability. It's not too rigid if

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the catching can continue to develop when you've got the

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>plus arm that he's had that he has and the

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>athleticism that he has behind the dish. The fact that

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you can dream on you know, thirty plus homers and

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>then a guy that can stick behind the dish with

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.439
<v Speaker 1>the ability to walk three true outcome with thirty plus

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>homers as a catcher is you can sign me up

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>for that. And also, by the way, he can sneaky

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>run too, even if it's not going to turn into bags.

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you have a catcher like that that's

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>not going to clog the base paths for you is valuable.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, immensely valuable. Another catcher that we get to talk

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>about arm why is Ethan Sallas up from one hundred

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to nine on Just Baseball's Top one hundred update. By

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>the way, happy belated. He turned twenty years old last week.

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even though it feels like he's been around for

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years. Because and I know he's slowed down a

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit, to be expected, he missed all last year

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's catching a lot this year, but tangible adjustment

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in the box, the mechanics of better tangible like physical change.

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>He looks so much stronger, healthy, and the results have

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just been ridiculous. Whether you look at the surface level

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>stats as a guy that was nineteen years old at

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the start of the season producing you know, above average

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>numbers at double A, or you look at the underlying

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a guy that is hitting the ball way

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>harder than he ever ever has. I mean, had never

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>posted an air ev north of one o eight and

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen multiple one to twelves already this year, and

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I think five or six cvs already north of that

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>one oh nine one ten threshold. There you see the

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>contact rate leap, and that's probably the craziest part is

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like you see the uptick in power and the uptick

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in the ability to like get into that power in games,

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>but to also pair that with a five percent increase

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>or excuse me more than that, to pair that with

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>an eight percent increase in zone contact where he's parting

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a ninety one percent in zone contact rate and an

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven percent overall improved contact rate. That's the biggest thing

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>for me. The out of zone contact rate is up

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>sixteen percent. To me, before he was kind of getting

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>out onto that front side, drifting and waving at the

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 1>ball a little bit more of like that shallow swing path,

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and now it seems like he's got all day. He's

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>using the ground so well. The path is better, and

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he can adjust, he can move, he's more athletic in

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the box. And you pair that with hitting the ball

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>harder to also being able to hit all different pitch

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>types better and get to pitches in different regions better,

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a much better hitter. And then, of

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>course he's the best defensive catcher in the minor leagues,

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>so at least in terms of value and what you

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 1>can project, he's the best defensive catcher in the minor league.

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So if he and we've talked about this, if he's

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>a ninety WRC plus, he's gonna be a starting big

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>league catcher for a really long time. And now with

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the improvements that we've seen as a nineteen slaw twenty

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>year old, he looks like he could be a one

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to twenty WRC plus maybe he'll be somewhere in between that,

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but if even as a chance to be that, the

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>upside is one of the best catchers in Major League Baseball.

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's why he is regarded as the best catching

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>prospect in baseball for US now.

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>So Freddy Fermen has had a pretty good last week,

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 2>So you could probably trade Sallas for school Blitt the

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>deadline if what if you're aj Preller, But we shall see. Uh,

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you a little exercise to tee up

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the next guy that we got to talk about here

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>post COVID Minor League strikeout leaders. In twenty twenty one,

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Cade Cavali punched out one hundred and seventy five guys.

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 2>He did it in the upper miners. In twenty twenty two,

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Fott punched out two hundred and eighteen guys. He

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>did it in the upper miners. In twenty twenty three,

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Drew Thorpe punched out one hundred and eighty two. He

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 2>did it in the upper miners. In twenty twenty four,

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Quinn Matthews climbed a whole bunch of levels. He finished

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in the upper miners, and he had a two hundred

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and two strikeout season. Last year, Jonah Toong did it

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in and trip Ala for the most part, punched out

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy nine guys. Your minor league strikeout

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 2>leader right now. Glaring difference he's doing it in the

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:13.479
<v Speaker 2>lower miners is Seth Hernandez or the Pittsburgh Pirates. Seth

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Hernandez makes the climb from forty nine to six. It's

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of unheard of what Seth Hernandez is doing right

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>now from a strikeout accumulation perspective in the lower levels

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of the minor leagues. And it sounds a little similar

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>to a Pirate from last year. When we talk about

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>unprecedented production in the lower levels of the minor leagues,

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Connor Griffin comes to mind, and now Seth Hernandez comes

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>to mind in twenty six.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's just crazy stuff. And he in

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of like an adjustment period a couple

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like starts there in high A and then by the

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 1>last one I just watched him, he looked so much

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable and settled in there. I mean, the strikeout

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>numbers are just ridiculous, and it's funny because I think

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just kind of expected because loway was such

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a joke for him that, oh, he's just gonna mow

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>through and hi, alb a joke too. Hey, baseball's not

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that easy. And he's had this slight adjustment period, but

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>even through that, he's still striking everybody out because the

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff is so freaking good. And again, I think the

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>last couple outings it's looked much better. And even then

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>nine innings over the last couple outings he's struck out

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and walked four. It's just such electrifying stuff. And

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>as we talked about, like this is the highest ceiling

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>of any pitching prospect in the minor leagues, and we're

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>already seeing that not twenty years old yet, sixty four

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to two hundred pounds and averaging ninety seven with the fastball,

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but we've seen him, like we know that he can

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>get up to one oh one, one oh two. This

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>has been a seth Hernandez. It's focused on building the workload,

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>staying healthy, and you know, for a guy like him

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's not even about like how many bats

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 1>he can miss in terms of trying to get to

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the big leagues as soon as possible. It's about showing

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that he can handle the workload. It's already at fifty innings,

0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think the focus for him has been that.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And so just to see Seth be able to continue

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to get stretched out and continue to hold his v

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>LO deeper in outings and be more focused on that

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.439
<v Speaker 1>side has been really exciting. And as I talked about

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>going into this year, the two questions with him, which

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 1>were the splitting hair questions were, you know he throws hard,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know he has elite change up. What's the

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 1>fastball shape going to look like? And what are the

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>breaking ball is going to look like? Fastball shape has

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.399
<v Speaker 1>been good and the breaking balls have been really good

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>compared to what we were expecting. Like the curveball looks

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 1>above average. I think this lader looks like it's not

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>least average pitch will probably develop into an above average offering.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>You pair that with a plus plus change up, and

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you've got one of the more electrifying pitching prospects in

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>major league baseball or minor league baseball.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 2>If there's one thing that I know about you, it's

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>that you are a huge x FIP guy who cares

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 2>if your number five prospect in baseball is an Elra

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>over five. The x FIP looks pretty good at three

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>point four to six. In all seriousness, Ryan Sloan to

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 2>the Seattle Mariners is up from twenty eight to five.

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>You look at the era north of five, you say, oh,

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 2>why is he ahead of Seth Hernandez? But then you

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>see that he's punching out eleven and a half per nine,

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>he's walking fewer than three per nine. He's keeping the

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 2>ball in the ballpark as well. In Double A. I

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't want to brand it as why

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 2>is slowing up twenty spots? I want to brand it

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 2>as why is he ahead of Seth Hernandez at number five?

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You know that only five months apart, Ryan Swan is

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>only five months older than Seth Hernandez.

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.959
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing because obviously.

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>We had a whole season, the whole coming out party

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>from Ryan Sloan last year. Swan's pitching in Double A

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>right now, and he is striking out a lot of

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>batters and he's not walking a lot of guys. And

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he had a couple of rough outings in a very

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>hitter friendly Texas week to start the year, and he

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>just continues to pound the zone He's not gonna nibbles.

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>He's just gonna continue to fill it up. And we've

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>seen Swan get better and better and better as he

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is settled in. I know that the last time out

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>was was not the best for him. It was in

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst places to have to pitch and whatever.

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Before that, it was six perfect with eleven strikeouts. So

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just about kind of stringing them together. But I

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 1>think if you look at the last five starts as

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole, he has just been better and better and

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 1>better as you watch this year. But again, reminder, five

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>months older than Seth Hernandez, who is kind of having

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>his own little adjustment period in High A, Sloan is

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>doing it in Double A right now. And the biggest

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>thing with him is he's getting burned by the long

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>ball in the Texas League. I think that's where you

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>look at the X fIF The NEXS fifth actually might matter,

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>It actually might be relevant there. But with Sloan is

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the floor is just so high. I like the delivery

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>more too. At this point it's just a lot more repeatable,

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the arm actions cleaner, and the ability to just spawn

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>pitches for him is just wild. That he could just

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>pick up a two seam grip and just make it work.

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's been a huge part of his arsenal here,

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the ability to mix ground balls with with I like

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>everything about what Ryansom makes it. But the thing is

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is like Seth Nanders is a slightly higher ceiling or

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe have a little bit higher ceiling, but Swoan has

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I think a comfortably higher floor and still has this

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>exorbitantly high ceiling as well. And I think when you

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>look at it that way, that's where I just slightly

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>lean towards the kid that's only a few months older

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and doing it at double A right now and projects

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to have plus command. And when you look at the

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>individual pitch grades, I just think you get a little

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>bit of an edge there too, right or like the

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>other aspect to us saying, oh, well, the fastballs, you know,

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Seth throws so hard. Ryan Swan is

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 1>averaging ninety six five with the fastball this year. Seth

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Hernandez is averaging ninety six eight with the fastball this year.

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>So and I know the shape is maybe a little

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>bit better with Sets, but Seth's shape has taken a

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a hit since getting a high A

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and Swan off sets it with better command of the pitch.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So this is the ultimate splitting of hairs. And these

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.399
<v Speaker 1>guys might just kind of like surpass each other every

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>time you check in and might go back and forth,

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. But right now with the strike rate,

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 1>with the improved pitch mix, and I think being able

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to add that Sinker just added a different level to

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Swoan that It just gets me so excited. And the

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>cleaner delivery that and that's probably the biggest thing. I

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>think Seth's our action can get a little bit long,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that creates some shape variants. I lean

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>on the floor and ceiling combination of Ryan Sloan dig it.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Ky, we got to talk about rises from thirty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to three on Just Baseball's Top one hundred list.

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 2>He's twenty years old. For the entirety of the year,

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>he is mashing in double A right now. Franklin Arius,

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Red Sox, is your number three prospect in

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<v Speaker 2>baseball through forty eight games, thirteen homers, A, nine to

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 2>ninety ops. Why do you love Arius? And why do

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<v Speaker 2>you have Franklin Arius ahead of Leo Devrees.

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<v Speaker 1>That was going to be the area that I was

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<v Speaker 1>just going to focus on there, because I think why

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I love Arius is going to be the same reason

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>why everybody loves Arius. He's he was a high floor

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>guy entering this year that has performed as one of

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the youngest players at each level and now has added

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 1>all of this power, and I think that's just the

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>most incredible aspect of it. I don't think there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players that we can remember, I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of in recent memory that have been so hit

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>tool oriented and added such a significant amount of power.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it was eight homers in one hundred and sixteen

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 1>games last year, he's got thirteen in forty eight games

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<v Speaker 1>at Double A this year, and it was eighty seven

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>games at High A last year. You look at the defense,

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>he's always projected well because he's so shorthanded, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the range is good. He looks now comfortably like

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>a well above average, potentially plush short top. He's gotten

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>so much better to the backhand and thrown from these

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>different angles, he looks fantastic. And I just think pairing

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<v Speaker 1>that with the fact that you have a hit tool

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>oriented guy that is now providing average power and maybe

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>above average power, like I think you could. Trying to

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>project the power was really hard because from a guy

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that was below average to now uptick across the board,

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and I mean average game power present right now for

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Arius is like two notches up from where he was

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<v Speaker 1>last year. So the some of those parts are just

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<v Speaker 1>so so exciting where I mean, you just don't you

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>don't see guys jump four and a half miles per

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<v Speaker 1>hour in their average eggs of velocity in twenty percent

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in the hard hit rate department and a mile per

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.720
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half in the average bat speed department,

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything is better everything. His average launch angle is

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>up three and a half degrees. Like, you hit the

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>ball harder, you hit the ball in the air more,

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you're consistently moving the bat faster, and you are the

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>same hit tool guy that you were before. Arius is

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>just a slam dunk. And when you compare him to Devrees,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really it was one of the latest switches

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that we made Defrees. Maybe as he grows more he

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.239
<v Speaker 1>has this raw power uptick as well. But Arius is

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>hitting the ball harder, he's presently more advanced defensively at shortstop,

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's better about to ball wise, And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was like where is the where's the edge for Devrees.

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I an say I'm a speed he's a switch hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>That helps too, But I couldn't really find the area

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<v Speaker 1>that Darese is better than Arius, especially now because Devrees

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>has the angles the batterball angles right, and that's why

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>he's always able to outslug the eggs velocities, but especially

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>now that Arius has the raw power and the angles.

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Presently there's just not a tool right now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that Devrese has over Arius.

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<v Speaker 2>Can get behind that. That's our program, folks, those are

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<v Speaker 2>our biggest risers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do more of the newcomers coming up

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<v Speaker 1>later in the week. We also have an interview with

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Corson mill Brandt, who is one of the newcomers we're

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about as well, and well up into

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the list here in the top fifty, so keep an

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>eye out for that. As always, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk prospects with you. Mar