1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here welcome back to Killers amongst Us, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. When you walk 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: into malls, grocery stores, festivals, art displays, museums. Maybe it's 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: just because of my business, but sometimes I look around 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: and I wonder how many of these people are on 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: probation or parole, because you can't tell when killers are 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: walking amongst us. I'm Nancy Grace, Thanks for being with 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: us here at kau We left off at the discovery 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: of the vehicle of a beautiful young mom, Michelle Parker. 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Take a listen to lead Detective Mike Mureshia. What we're 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna be releasing is red light video of Shell Parker's 12 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: hummer on the evening that she disappeared, and at eight 13 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: fifty five that night at the intersection of Violent and Conroy, 14 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: which is approximately three quarters of a mile from where 15 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the hummer was ultimately discovered the next day. In the video, 16 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you'll see that there is the car is not following anybody, 17 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: No one is following the car, and the glow stickers 18 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: that made it so prominent are no longer on the vehicle. 19 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: At that time, at eight fifty five pm, and we 20 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: are we are presuming that it was parked. It goes 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: in the direction of Walden Circle where it was was found, 22 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and we're presuming it was parked early shortly thereafter. Guys, 23 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: the stickers were huge on her car. And I know 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: you've seen those vehicles, shrink wrapped with advertisements kind of 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: like that across the back of her black hummer, an 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: advertisement for herself on her business glow in Home Tans. 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: But between the time she goes missing last thing, dropping 28 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: her children off as she heads to work, didn't make 29 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: it to work at six o'clock when a car's found, 30 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: those stickers have been very scrupulously scraped off. That screams 31 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: not a random attack. What random attacker would take the 32 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: time to do that then hide the hummer in between 33 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of other cars at a packed apartment complex across 34 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: from a very very busy mall. More evidence is leaking 35 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: out with me an all star panel. John w. Dial, 36 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of Orlando on team Michelle Parker 37 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: looking for answers. You can find him at Johnwdal dot com. 38 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Director of the Coldcase Research Institute, crime scene expert Cheryl McCollum, 39 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: you can find her at Coldcase Crimes dot org. Doctor 40 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Jen Mann therapist, host off Couples Therapy VH one, The 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Show, Serious x them, author of a brand 42 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: new book, The Relationship Fix on Amazon. Find her at 43 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: doctor gen dot com. But straight out to Bianca Prieto, 44 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: former Orlando Sentinel criminal justice reporter. Bianca again, where was 45 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: her hammer? Last saying it was that a red light? 46 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Where was that? That was near the mall Millennium, which 47 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: could truly upscale mall in orlandoming high end stores in 48 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: that neighborhood that's around the mall. It can kind of 49 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: get a little work around the edges. And it was 50 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: found in an apartment complex near that mall. But what 51 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: about her cell phone? The cell phone was not found 52 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: in her car? What became of that? Take a listen 53 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: to Karen Moore wish to fourteen days and von Stewart 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: is still holding out hope her daughter, Michelle Parker will 55 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: be found alive. Whenever they tell me that there's a body, 56 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I know it's not her. As weird as that may 57 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: sound everybody out there listening that, you guys might think 58 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: that I'm in denial, but I know they're just not 59 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: going to find her. In the lake. They're just not. 60 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Searchers on foot and horseback returned to Lake Eleanor this morning, 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: cutting through woods looking for any clues. Police won't say 62 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: if a specific tip led them here, but we do 63 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: know Michelle Parker's cell phone was powered down in this area, 64 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: which is also where her car was found. Cheryl McCollum 65 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: with me, forensic expert, director of the Coldcase Research Institute 66 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl, why is it so significant 67 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: that her cell phone was powered down near where her 68 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: hammer was found? A band and I say planted? I 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: mean where are you gonna look? I mean try to 70 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: It's like a needle in a haystack. Finding a car 71 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: like it's parked at the airport, for instance, it's nestled 72 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: in between all these other cars at a giant apartment 73 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: complex across from them all exactly. It's significant that her 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: phone powered down there because again, it seems like whoever 75 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: left her car there is taking away anything that would 76 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: identify her. The logo on the back of that car 77 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: was all about her. That was her business, her baby. 78 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people may have a hummer, but if 79 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: law enforcement is scouring a parking lot looking for that logo, 80 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be there, and they powered that phone down 81 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: at the same time to stop any activity from her. 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: And why is that significant? I mean, just anecdotally, with 83 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: every random murderer or kidnapping that I have ever seen, 84 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: the purpose doesn't go to such great links to cover 85 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: their tracks. They do the deed, they do the rape, 86 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: they do the murder, they do the kidnap, and they 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: get the hay out of there. They don't take time 88 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: to take the cell phone, power it down, right, hide it, 89 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: hide the car, scrape off decals. That takes a lot 90 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: of time. Again, it's significant to me, and I wouldn't 91 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: have moved from it. This no longer appears to be random, 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: stranger own stranger to me. Guys, we're talking about the 93 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: disappearance of a gorgeous young mom, three children, two of 94 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: them twins. Where is that cell phone? Why is it 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: so significant we find the cell phone? I mean, do 96 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: doctor Jen Man, renowned therapist host on series Sex sim 97 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: author doctor Mann. Now, cell phones are really an extension 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: of your persona. I mean, if you look at mine, 99 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: you say about, oh my goodness, twelve fifteen thousand pictures 100 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: of the twins camping the twins standing in front of 101 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: the coach drive. The twins at this, The twins at that, 102 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: it's all about our family. Every contact I know is 103 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: in there. I mean it is an extension of me. 104 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I guess is that tree for everyone? Absolutely? And it 105 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: gives us so much information about a person's psyche, a 106 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: person's lifestyle, where they were last, who they're spending time with, 107 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: any kind of secret life that they may have, any 108 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: hidden filed, any hidden photos, who they've called. It's such 109 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: valuable information in terms of knowing so many things about 110 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: a person, whether they're living a secret life. It reveals 111 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: so much. And what do they expect they're going to 112 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: find on that John W. Deal, personal injury lawyer out 113 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: of Orlando, who's on team. I'm Chelle Parker. Team find 114 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. John, What did they expect to find from 115 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: her cell phone that they're so desperately searching for. Well, 116 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: they're trying to see who she might have at last 117 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: been in contact with, you know, where she had been going. 118 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that she was supposed to be at 119 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: work up in Sanford, which is north of town. The 120 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Millennium All is just south of downtown. So where was 121 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: she where was she going. She doesn't show up the works, 122 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of clues as see what her 123 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: movements might have been and who she been communicating with 124 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: as well. I want to see those texts, those emails, 125 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: those photos, and plus it's like a built in GPS tracker, 126 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, Nancy, not only do you have a GPS, 127 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: but again you're going to have in real time who 128 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: she contacted, who contacted her, any threats, anything that you 129 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: know doesn't fit, If there's a number that it's not 130 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: attached to a person that she would normally contact, if 131 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: somebody is having an argument with her over text messages 132 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: or email, all that will be right there, including photographs 133 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: that somebody might have sent anything, it's going to be 134 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: right there. We know while that hummer being found parked 135 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: amongst hundreds of cars is being processed for any clues 136 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: left behind, hair, fiber, fingerprints, DNA, you name at, a 137 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: search is on for her cell phone. Take a listen 138 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: to this this morning and what clues If any police 139 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: found on missing mother Michelle Parker's cell phone, it could 140 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: be a key piece of evidence in this case. Kara 141 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Moore's at the family's command post in Sanford. So what 142 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: are they saying about this, Well, it's certainly a break 143 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: in the case that the family has been praying for 144 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: for a long time. Now. Jason and c on Michelle 145 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Parker's cell phone, the very phone her mother at one 146 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: point told me she was never without, has been found 147 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and now we're family hopes that leads investigators right to her. 148 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: And take a listen to more of Karen Moore from 149 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: WESH You're step forward in finding missing mother of three 150 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. Investigators have found her cell phone, her family 151 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: says Orlando police showed them a photo of it yesterday. 152 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: This is home video of Parker using that very phone. 153 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: Her sister knew right away it was Michelle's. Seeing that, 154 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: it just gives me hope that, you know why, even 155 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: after so many days, you can still find something, even 156 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: though time's passing and it seems like nothing's happening, They 157 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: keeping that hope that things are still happening. So it's 158 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: just it's it's a bundle of emotions right now. Police 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: have not said where it was found or what condition 160 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: it's in. The phone has been found. Cops refusing to 161 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: say where it's found or what condition it's in. But 162 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I thought to you, Cheryl McCallum, you're in the forensics expert. 163 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: Even if a phone has been beaten up, put underwater, 164 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of damage can come to your phone. Can't 165 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: you still somehow manage to get evidence off of it? Absolutely, 166 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: there's things on the cloud forever. So again, if she 167 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: posted videos, she posted photographs, her emails are going to 168 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: be there. Even though the phone is damaged, There's going 169 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: to be tons of information for me when I get 170 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: to that scene. How that phone is damaged means a 171 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: lot to me because who would do that? Wouldn't her? Yeah, 172 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: who would go to the trouble of damaging the phone? 173 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: What's on the phone? And they don't want you to see? 174 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this and two new areas now 175 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: being searched for any signs of the missing mother, Michelle Parker. 176 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: These searchers have been going on for several hours now. 177 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: At the first scene, divers looking at a canal near 178 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Choscer Lane in South Orange County. This is near where 179 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: other searches for Parker have taken place. Why she's bob 180 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: killing live near the canal with the breaking details? So Bob, 181 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: why did they choose a spot we'll see on It's 182 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: really just due west and a little bit south of 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: where Michelle Parker's iPhone was found in Lake Conway. And 184 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: I can also tell you that the members of this 185 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: dive team who are still actively searching at this time 186 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: are the ones who actually found the phone within the 187 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: last week. And according to us some of the residents 188 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: in here and what we've been able to see, it 189 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: appears that the divers are targeting a very specific area. 190 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: The Orlando Police Department says they are continuing their search 191 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: efforts for any clues that could lead to the location 192 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: of Michelle Parker, and they say we are concentrating our 193 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: search efforts into separate locations. One of them is near 194 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: Orange Blossom Trail and Jordan Avenue in this canal. The 195 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: other location is quite a ways east of here, along 196 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: the Econ Trail between Curry Ford and Leave Vista. Here 197 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: our friends at West describing but not yet really identify 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: where the cell phone is found, but we do know 199 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: it was found in a body of water. Back out 200 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: to Bianca Prieto, former Orlando set an old criminal justice reporter, 201 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: where was her phone found? That phone would sound thrown 202 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: over a bridge on the side of town where she 203 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: would last seeing. It wasn't in that deep of water, 204 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: and it looked like somebody could have just easily chucked 205 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: it out a window as they drove past, hoping nobody 206 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: would ever find it. Wow, Cheryl McCollum, when a phone 207 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: goes under water, if it has not been powered down, 208 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: does it still give a signal? I mean it might 209 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but no, I mean it would 210 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: stop pretty quick. But what's significant about this is the 211 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: person continued to move it sounds like and they just 212 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: discarded it, trying to get rid of it as fast 213 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: as they could, so it wasn't connected to them. It's 214 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: also significant to me that the phone is near where 215 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: she was last seen. So it seems to me all indications, 216 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: all indicators, are toward one area. The iPhone is so 217 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: central to this investigation. When you look at tracking information 218 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: from your cell phone, it can pinpoint you within I believe, 219 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: less than a mile. You know, Cheryl McCollum, I know 220 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: you recall recently the twins went with their school to 221 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: go with their band to play at Disney. Now you 222 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: know perfectly well, I was not going to let to 223 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: eleven year olds go on a bus without me to 224 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: another state and wander around Disney alone. Okay, that's not 225 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. So I wanted them to feel independent 226 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: and free. Of course, I tell the bus all the 227 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: way to Orlando. But what I did was install Life 228 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: three sixty on their phones. So I did not, but 229 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: give me credit, I did not go into Disney with them, 230 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: but I could see where they were moving around, you know, 231 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: in generally the same area, her with her friends, John 232 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: David was with his friends, and I could tell where 233 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: they were based on Life three sixty. And that is 234 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: much the way a cell phone navigator works. Absolutely, you 235 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: can not only tell exactly where the person is or 236 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: where the phone is, so to speak. Again, you can 237 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: tell what they're doing simultaneously. Are they looking something up 238 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: on Google? Are they sent in text messages, or they're 239 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: receiving or making phone calls. All of this is simultaneous, 240 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and when you get that report back, it's astounding what 241 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: you can tell about someone's movements. It's also going to 242 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: be critical the movements of this phone. When they determined 243 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't her in movement because their phone was powered 244 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: down before it was thrown into this I guess John W. Dill, 245 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: high profile lawyer on team find Michelle Parker. John the 246 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: phone was powered down? Where was it powered down? John? 247 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Who was powered down? Closer to where the car was found? 248 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: But interestingly, the last the last cell phone pain was 249 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: near Belle Isle. And you heard Bob Keeling they're talking 250 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: that piece about searching Lake Conway, which is a large 251 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: body of water. So that's far away, certainly from Stanford 252 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: and kind of on the way to the Mall of Millennia. 253 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: So it was active in pained in near the bell 254 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Isisle area south of Orlando. Her car pain from in 255 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: between where she dropped the children off and where her 256 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: hummer was found. Am I getting that correct? Okay? So 257 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: then it was intentionally powered down. You know a lot 258 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: of people, believe it or not, doctor jen Man, you're 259 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the therapist, never turned their phone off. Okay, I'm one 260 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of them because I don't think about it. I plug 261 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: it in when I need to charge it and I 262 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: just keep going. But to take time to power it 263 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: down in the middle of the day, she had this 264 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: phone attached to her body. That's not her powering that 265 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: phone down. I'm just telling you that, doctor jen Yeah, 266 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. It's unusual unless you've got 267 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: something to list in your phone and your turn off 268 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the plane onto we set it. Most people don't turn upon. 269 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Most people have it on all the time. And it's 270 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: obviously very suspicious that it was powered down. The timing 271 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: of it makes it incredibly suspect. She wasn't in her car. 272 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Jump in, Cheryl. She didn't power it down, she wasn't 273 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: going in that direction. Whoever took her through that phone 274 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: and but the powering down, I don't think that that 275 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: would be her normal behavior as well. People go out 276 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: of their way to keep their phone on. They have 277 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: those you know chargers that are like handheld chargers. They 278 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: will do anything in their power to keep that phone 279 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: charged up. Absolutely no way a mama of two is 280 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: going to power down her phone. Not gonna happen. Well, 281 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, don't mock that, because when I go anywhere, 282 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: either have the phone charged, have a charger. I also 283 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: have a little portable charger that fits on the bottom 284 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: of the phone because I Am not going to be 285 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: out with the twins and not have the phone powered up. 286 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: How many times, Cheryl have we read the gas the 287 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: car went empty, the phone powered down, I mean, come on, 288 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: please prepare, trust me. Yeah, I wouldn't mock at it. 289 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: I'm flat saying, there's no way a mama too is 290 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: going to let her phone power down. It's not gonna 291 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: happen in no way. So to you, Bianca Prieto, where 292 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: she dropped the children off and between where the hammer 293 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: was found hidden amongst all those cars, what was it 294 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: about halfway where it was powered down? Yeah, it was 295 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: about it was near where she was blasting. You know 296 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: that that bridge. It's a tiny, little two road. It's 297 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: in a neighborhood. It's not a major A little bit 298 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: A bunch of people will be driving past. You'd have 299 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: to be in that neighborhood to be on that bridge. 300 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: And I want to point out too, is that if 301 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: that phone was powered down, she got her older son 302 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: at school who talks to mamma every day after school, 303 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: So why would she power down? Right? Right, that's right, 304 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: that's how the whole thing, the alarm was raised. When 305 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: you're when her older son, she got the two little twins, 306 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: and then the eleven year old talks to her every 307 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: day after school. She should have been on her way 308 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: to work and she would be expecting that phone call 309 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Guys, take a listen to this. Brad 310 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: Parker says. Detectives dedicated today to Michelle's iPhone, which was 311 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: found last week, and they may be able to figure 312 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: out her every move before she went missing. She's my firstborn, 313 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: She's my little girl. I choked up father tonight, time 314 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: stick and Michelle's not with us. Fearing the worst. I'm depressed, 315 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm sad, I'm mad. I don't want to find Michelle. 316 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Brad Parker tells Fox thirty five. Detectives spend a day 317 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: going through Michelle's iPhone. I heard from the detectives. It's 318 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: like a little computer that may indicate where she was, 319 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: who she last talked to. This cell phone found last 320 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: week at the bottom of a lake and Belle Isle 321 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: the biggest piece of evidence so far since the missing 322 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: mom of three vanished nearly four weeks ago. It's a 323 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: big part of the puzzle. That's right, Dad, Brad Parker 324 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Senior could not be more correct. Those are our friends 325 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: at Fox thirty five takeles to wish to Bob Keeling. 326 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Despite an absence of high profile searches this week, Orlando 327 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Police Chief Paul Rooney says his detectives are still busy 328 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: following leads in the Michelle Parker disappearance. Rooney confirmed that 329 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: Parker's phone was found under water and suggested they are 330 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: getting useful information from it. We are still falling up 331 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: relentlessly on any tips that you would not know about 332 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: that come in through crime line, that phone calls, or 333 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: leads that we may be getting from the cell phone. 334 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to have on my twenty first year here 335 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: at OPD, and this has been the most massive effort 336 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I've ever been involved. During a year in review presentation 337 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: on Orlando's crime numbers, the lead detective in the Parker 338 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: case said he's confident the three places they've looked for 339 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: clues have been searched thoroughly, constantly, keep going and trying 340 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: to get this family some answers, and I'm optimistic that 341 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: we will, despite the time that's gone by my heart. 342 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: During an interview with Dateline NBC this week, Michelle Parker's 343 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: mom said the discovery of that phone brought with it 344 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: overwhelming feelings of despair. That was my hope is that 345 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: they would never find that phone and she still had it. 346 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: At some point she could get to it. You know, 347 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: that's when I really started to think this isn't going 348 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: to end well. To John w Deal, high profile lawyer 349 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: on team find Michelle, working very closely with Michelle's family, 350 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: explain what Michelle's mom meant by that, I was hoping 351 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: they wouldn't find the cell phone well, even though obviously 352 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: they were very close knit. When somebody disappear years like 353 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: that with no reason, maybe you are thinking, well, maybe 354 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: she just took some time off or try to get 355 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: away from everything, although that would have been really out 356 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: of character. So there's still that hope that the phone 357 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: was out there, attached to alive Michelle and at some 358 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: point she'd reach out. But when that phone, who which 359 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: they always used to communicate with it all day long, 360 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: showed up, it was just that thinking feeling that Van 361 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: talked about there in that clip, Doctor Jenn therapist, wait, 362 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: and doctor jan about what mom just said. Well, I 363 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: think you, probably more than anyone, since you've covered so 364 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: many stories over the years, can really understand the level 365 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: of fear and grief and sadness and despair that this 366 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: mother feels. And she knows her daughter, She knows her 367 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: daughter would never part with her cell phone. She knows. 368 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: At this point it's dawning on her that her daughter 369 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: may not be found alive. And there's nothing more heartbreaking 370 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: than a parent losing a child. And then suddenly the 371 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: command post is moved. Take a listen to XCDM. Michelle 372 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Parker's family is moving the command post to the Barn 373 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: and Sandford and that's the bar where Parker worked as 374 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: a bartender. Volunteers are resuming their search this morning after 375 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: searching canals in South Orlando this weekend. It has been 376 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks now since Parker was last seen. 377 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Her loved ones held a fundraiser Saturday night. They sold 378 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: T shirts to raise money for Parker's three children. Michelle, 379 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking for you. The whole world, the whole state 380 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: of Assorta is actually looking for Michelle. Parker's family headset 381 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: up their command post in South Orlando off Oak Ridge Road, 382 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: and that's the area where Parker's suv was found abandoned. 383 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: To our friend John W. Deal, the high profile lawyer 384 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: working to find Michelle, why was the command post moved? Well, 385 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: now we're kind of bullying in on where she had lasted, 386 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: seen where the cars found. Okay, let me understand something, John, 387 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: She drops the shouldren off. She's heading to the barn, 388 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: which is where she was reporting to work. Her two 389 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: children had been two twins have been dropped off with babysitter. 390 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: The other child is at school eleven years old. So 391 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: where the phone pained is that in the opposite direction 392 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: she would have traveled it to work. Absolutely the phone 393 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: pings Stamford is North Atown, about fifteen or twenty minutes 394 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: on our innstate. Here the phone pains down by Lake Conway, 395 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: which is now more closer to where she was last 396 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: seen and also where the car is found or where 397 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: the hummer is found. So everything geographically is pointing in 398 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: that direction away from where she was supposed to go. 399 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: Her hummer going in the opposite direction she would have 400 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: gone in hersell phone being powered down, which she never 401 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: would have done. Take a listen to Bob Keeling It 402 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: wish too with a startling new theory. When Parker was 403 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: last seen dropping off her twins, her hummer had this 404 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: sticker advertising her home tanning business. Hours later, when red 405 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: light camera video picked up footage of it being driven 406 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: at Conroy and Vineland, the sticker was gone. Police suspects 407 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: someone involved with her disappearance, pulled into this remote area 408 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: to strip it off and make the vehicle less recognizable. 409 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: We don't know who was driving it, but somebody was 410 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: driving it, and I hope to god there was nervous 411 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: as hell that we're coming after them, a lead detective 412 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: tells Wish too. This area is also where Parker's phone 413 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: pinged for a final time with a text message police 414 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: believe someone else sent to give her family the impression 415 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: Michelle was still alive. Later, down this same route, someone 416 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: threw her phone off the Neelas Street Bridge, belle Isle. 417 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: So now it's all starting to make sense to me. 418 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: And I look at Google Earth and I do the geography, 419 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: and I figure, yeah, this is halfway between here and 420 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: the Nila Bridge. Despite a lack of success here, Parker's 421 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: loved ones remain determined. Hey over yet, honey. We're gonna 422 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: find you one day, I hope. Now. The startling theory 423 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: that someone else is fake texting from Michelle's phone, what 424 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: about it? Bianca Prieto, former Orlando's Sentinel criminal justice reporter, 425 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: explain what was that last text? That last text was 426 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: just one word and all it's said with Waterford. Waterford 427 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: is a neighborhood that is in East Orlando, and it 428 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: would be sort of on the way to where Michelle 429 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: was supposed to report to work. But we don't know 430 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: if she's the one to actually sent it or not. 431 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: So let me go to you, John W. Deal, high 432 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: profile lawyer working with Michelle's family. What does her family 433 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: make of that one word text? Well, very out of 434 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: the ordinary for her, you know, even at the time 435 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: it displays, you know, she was very into texting, would 436 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: have long sort of text conversations and in response to 437 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: where are you, we haven't heard from you? A one 438 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: word text was certainly out of the ordinary. It's unlike 439 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: any other texting to what about it? Charylne Collum patterns. 440 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Everything right here is going to come down to patterns. 441 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: Her pattern was to send her family like a book 442 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: every time she responded to them, like they even made 443 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: fun of her because of it. For her to send 444 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: a one word response when she failed to pick her 445 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: child up after school and didn't meet him at home 446 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: threw this family into a panic because they knew that 447 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: was not her. Doctor Jen, doctor Jen, man with me, 448 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: doctor Jen. You know when someone does something so out 449 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: of the ordinary, people close to the victim, No it's wrong, 450 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: but it's hard to convince outsiders that this is really. 451 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: For instance, where the timeline starts when she headed in 452 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: the wrong direction from work, when that cell phone was 453 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: powered down, when that fake text was sent nothing like 454 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: her other texts, That is when the timeline starts. In 455 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: my mind, that we know at that point she's either 456 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: kidnapped or dead right there, based strictly on behavioral evidence alone, absolutely, 457 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: and we all look at patterns with our loved ones 458 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: to predict their behavior, to understand things they've done, And 459 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: in a situation like this, where someone goes missing, it 460 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: is so important to look at what are their patterns, 461 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: And as was pointed out, this is someone who would 462 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: send long text messages back about really simple small things. 463 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: So for her to just type one word like that 464 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: is completely out of character and makes you think that 465 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't her. For instance, my children, Lucy doesn't 466 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: even pay attention to her cell phone. You can text her, 467 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: call or forget about it, and she's that way about everybody, 468 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: not not just mommy friends, brother, and she's just not 469 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: into it. My son, however, lives on his cell phone. 470 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: He'll text back immediately within thirty seconds. That's their pattern 471 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: that's been established for now two years now. This one 472 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: word text. Let me compare to this, Cheryl McCallum. We 473 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: all remember the j Simpson double murder debacle, and neighbors, 474 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, really start the timeline when they heard Brown, 475 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: who was basically beheaded in her driveway along with her 476 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: friend Ron Goldman, her dog Akita let out a quote 477 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: plaintive well or a plaintive howl at a certain time. 478 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: They had never heard the dog do that before in 479 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: all the years they had lived there. And I guarantee 480 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: you that's when the murders were going down. Correct. A 481 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: stranger would not text back for what there's no connection, 482 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: There's no reason to pretend she's still alive or okay 483 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: for that person. That person is going to harm her 484 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: and get ghosts. They're not going to fool with her car, 485 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to fool with her logo, they're not 486 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: going to fool with her phone because it's not necessary. 487 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: This person is having to try to convince somebody she's 488 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: still alive and okay so that the crime is not discovered. 489 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: This is exactly how circumstantial cases are built. I remember 490 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: prosecuting a serial killer got him on one murder, but 491 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: that's all it took to put him away. I had 492 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: to analyze one ear ring and what the location, how 493 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: it got there, how it was torn from the victim's 494 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: ear What that meant about the primary, the secondary, the 495 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: tertiary crime scene. What could I deduce from one ear ring. 496 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: By the time I finished, I had two posters full 497 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: of what could be deduced from the placement, the mode, 498 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: the style, so much more of one earring. What can 499 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: we learn about the cell phone? We now know that 500 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: from the time she dropped off her baby twins to 501 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the time that text went out. In that short space 502 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: of time, she was either killed or kidnapped. We know 503 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: a lot from the way the cell phone was disposed 504 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: of in a shallow body of water when somebody drove 505 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: over that bridge. Now the question is how does the 506 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: Number one Judge Show syndicated program that aired that day 507 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: play into Michelle Parker's disappearance. Nancy Grace killers amongst us 508 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye friend