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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host, rop Shooter.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday. Mark was ready to do the show

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Speaker 1: this morning, but we had a few technical issues. So

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Speaker 1: don't worry, naughties. It's just as but we've got a

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Speaker 1: great show. What time is it, my friends? It is

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Speaker 1: tea time. Big story at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama is shutting down divorce rumors, saying, quote, I'm

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Speaker 1: a grown woman making choices for myself. So amid growing

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Speaker 1: speculation about her marriage to the former President Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: the former first Lady is addressing the unfounded divorce rumors.

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Speaker 1: So these rumors have been going around now for a

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Speaker 1: couple of months. I told you back then that my

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Speaker 1: sources were saying, no, they are not getting a divorced.

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Speaker 1: They just have different interests. She said the following I

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Speaker 1: think it's so interesting they couldn't even fathom that I

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Speaker 1: So what she's talking about here is all the headlines,

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Speaker 1: all the big events that she did not want to

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Speaker 1: go to she doesn't like politics. She's made it very

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Speaker 1: clear what she thinks about the current president. She wants

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Speaker 1: no part of this. I think there's an expectation in

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Speaker 1: American politics that you hand the bat on, although that

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Speaker 1: wasn't done to mister Biden by the former administration. So

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Speaker 1: she's saying no, I just don't want to do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: And for eight years we were so used to seeing

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Speaker 1: them together when he was the president. She turned up

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Speaker 1: at so many different events, stuff that she didn't really

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Speaker 1: It is, And so she said, now that my husband

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Speaker 1: when you see Barak by himself making solo appearances, that

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Speaker 1: is not a red flag, but it's rather a conscious

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Speaker 1: decision on her behalf for her own wellbeing. She said, quote,

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Speaker 1: I'm a grown woman just making a set of decisions

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Speaker 1: for myself, and if it does not fit the stereotype,

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Speaker 1: it's going to get labeled as something negative. So the

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Speaker 1: message is really clear here. Michelle Obama does not owe

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Speaker 1: anybody in explanation for living the life she wants on

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Speaker 1: her own terms, and she is doing that. This is

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Speaker 1: such a big topic. What do you think about your

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Speaker 1: partner being involved in your work life, in your everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Bruce and I have an amazing relationship because we are

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Speaker 1: not constantly together. We have our own lives, we have

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Speaker 1: big company. I could call myself a manager, Bruce's manager,

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Speaker 1: I have no interest in doing that at all. So

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Speaker 1: I forged my own career and then on a personal

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Speaker 1: level too. We have different interests. Bruce is not really

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Speaker 1: interested in going shoe shopping, noticing not into clothes. I

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Speaker 1: going to restaurants together. Movies. He likes sort of smart movies,

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Speaker 1: where I love a Mission impossible. I love a dumb blockbuster.

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Speaker 1: I don't make him go, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: key to success here. Don't force your friends your partners,

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Speaker 1: us to our question of the day. Michelle Obama is

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Do you believe her? Do you

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Speaker 1: at Naughty nine Rob or a Facebook page which is

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Speaker 1: Naughty Gossip and Misure to check back tomorrow to hear

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Speaker 1: your results. Okay, this story is explosive, it is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Just In Baldoni does not want Harvey Weinstein's support in

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Speaker 1: New York Times and Blake Lively. So Harvey ana nowhere

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Speaker 1: has tried to hitch his legacy to Justin Belldone, and

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Speaker 1: Justin wants nothing to do with it. So from his

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Speaker 1: California prison cell, let me say that again. Halves in jail,

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Speaker 1: Harvey released a jaw dropping statement claiming that he quote

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Speaker 1: New York Times and former co star Blake Lively, the

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Speaker 1: overturned in twenty twenty four and now away it's a retrial,

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Speaker 1: claims that The New York Times manipulated evidence in both

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Speaker 1: cases his and Justin's to serve a sensationalized narrative. But

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Speaker 1: insiders close to Justin are slamming this unsolicited support. Sources

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Speaker 1: tell me quote Justin is appalled by Harvey Weinstein's comments.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want this support, as this ever happened to you,

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Speaker 1: and somebody comes forward supports you, and you're like, oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be associated with you. It's like

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Speaker 1: Diddial Cosby and Weinstein. These are people. It's just not helping,

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Speaker 1: and it shows you harvest narcissism that he thinks from jail.

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Speaker 1: From jail, he should issue a statement about Blake Lively

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Speaker 1: and Justin bell Downey saying whose side is on, whose

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Speaker 1: that's what matters. Who cares what you think Harvey, You're disgraced.

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Speaker 1: Sit down, sir, Shut up, sir. You're not helping Justin.

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Speaker 1: You're not helping yourself. This happens with politicians too, doesn't it,

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Speaker 1: When really horrible people come forward to endorse you and

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Speaker 1: can also happen with friends, with colleagues, with people in

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Speaker 1: the same business as you be careful who you associate with. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's be clear, Justin has nothing to do with Harvey Weinstein,

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Speaker 1: But Harvey Weinstein always seems to want something to do

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Speaker 1: And she's holding up a glass jar of her honey

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Speaker 1: accessibly priced, Megan, when people are really struggling with bread

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Speaker 1: and eggs and necessities and milk, honey twenty eight dollars

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Speaker 1: my grocery store. This is a luxury. It's a couple

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Speaker 1: It's too early to be doing business profiles on a

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Speaker 1: So I think Meghan here needs to be a little

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Speaker 1: But if he explodes suddenly, this footage, these photographs are everywhere,

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Speaker 1: so we played into their hands. Has this ever happened

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Speaker 1: They want to upset you, They want to make you explode.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when you get angry, they win. They win,

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Speaker 1: a win for them. Don't do it. I'm very good

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Speaker 1: at this now on social media, even in person. When

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Speaker 1: Another point that a friend of mine made here too

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Speaker 1: is Justin's worth about three hundred million dollars. These photographers

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Speaker 1: are not. They're living a very working class life. The

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