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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra.

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Speaker 1: Judge just got finished watching Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What a shit show that was.

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Speaker 1: I mean the level of shit show. I mean, first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, we need to talk about how Andy has

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Speaker 1: officially met his impatient parent era Teresa and Melissa, for sure.

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Speaker 2: But first, I mean starting out with Teresa still in denial,

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Speaker 2: still in denial to everybody's fault. She was put in

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Speaker 2: She wasn't put in jail, she was put in prison,

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Speaker 2: federal prison. And I mean, Sweetie, it was your husband.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't Melissa, it wasn't Caroline, it wasn't Joey. It

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Speaker 2: was your husband, and you you signed.

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Speaker 3: Here's that everybody needs to be very clear about.

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Speaker 1: If you are in the public eye in any capacity anything,

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Speaker 1: any sort of breaking the law or taxes or whatever

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Speaker 1: it may be, they are going to take additional time

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Speaker 1: to look into you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the thing. Pay your taxes and you

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Speaker 2: won't have a red flag on your ass.

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Speaker 1: And also, I don't know, I just feel like the

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Speaker 1: continuous discussion over I mean, how many years ago was that.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, if that was me, which it

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Speaker 2: would never be me. If it was, and it was

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Speaker 2: brought up. I would take full ownership of it and say,

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Speaker 2: you're right. I did something stupid. I signed papers I

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Speaker 2: didn't look at and I went to prison. It was

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Speaker 2: my husband's fault, it was my fault. I was stupid

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Speaker 2: not to read it into story. Stop blaming people.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw which I sent over this morning.

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Speaker 1: That now Joe Judice you houside New Jersey. Joe Judice

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Speaker 1: supports ex wife Teresa Judaice claimed that her brother Joe

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Speaker 1: Gorga and sister in law Melissa Gorga, helped land the

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Speaker 1: two of them behind bars almost a decade ago. They

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Speaker 1: came on the show. They were very good friends with

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Speaker 1: my ex partner's attorney, which went to the FEDS, which

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Speaker 1: I think Melissa and Joe were involved, Joe alleged on

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Speaker 1: Monday's episode of Behind the Velvet Rope. Okay, one, Joe,

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Speaker 1: you're the one that actually did it, regardless, like let

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Speaker 1: it to me. It doesn't matter who it is that

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Speaker 1: went to the Feds. I think the Feds were also

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Speaker 1: already involved. But then did you catch when Teresa said,

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Speaker 1: we know because we talked to the Feds, I'm sure, Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: that arrested. You also let you know who the informant was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the interrogation they tipped me off. Okay, Teresa, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, for the love of God, just stop. Stop Teresa.

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Speaker 2: You did something wrong, you went to prison. End it

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Speaker 2: right there. Take response.

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Speaker 1: You're a number to get in touch with the Feds,

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Speaker 1: like one eight hundred. Call your FED friend like.

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Speaker 2: There is if you go to the web website, there

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Speaker 2: is a tip area where you can throw in tips.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you check this out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I know that I have a friend that

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Speaker 2: was a federal agent.

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Speaker 1: So, oh is his name? Bo Dieetle?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm tired and a very good guy.

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Speaker 3: But Teresa, yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 1: But Teresa bring up things from ten years ago, like

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Speaker 1: a guilty child trying to get the heat off of them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so then you know we start we kind of

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Speaker 3: break it down.

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Speaker 1: Melissa reads the text that Jackie got from Jacqueline Lorita,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, there's a lot more text

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Speaker 2: my concern is why did Dolores go, this is bad.

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Speaker 2: You're going down like under her breath. Like, why because Melissa,

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody plays dirty on that cast, like Teresa's

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Speaker 2: played dirty this entire time. Why is it so bad

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Speaker 1: Well? I think, I mean the problem that I had

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Speaker 1: She's stupid but also very calculating. Even with two facelifts,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have six additional texts that we're not

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're still friends?

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Speaker 3: I think all of it is.

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Speaker 1: Now. I'm getting to the point where I'm like, is

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Speaker 2: Well, I talked to her, and she says, no, she

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Speaker 2: moved on. But I mean, they have deep rooted shit

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Speaker 2: Jackie read these texts instead of Melissa.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was Yeah. Also the fact that Jackie

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Speaker 2: Do you remember was Jackie on the couch when the

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Speaker 1: She wasn't. Now I don't think so, right, But also

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Speaker 1: Outed that Evan allegedly had an affair by Teresa, so

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Speaker 1: she was probably mad at Teresa and texting with Jacqueline.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys.

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Speaker 2: Think these text messages don't go on between friends when

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Speaker 2: you're in a cast like this and you get pissed off,

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Speaker 2: they happen.

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Speaker 1: They do, they happen, you.

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Speaker 3: Will find shitty, shitty things.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just felt like it was

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Speaker 1: Melissa reading Jacqueline's text was a little bit off to me. Now, Mistay, I.

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Speaker 2: Just want to say this now, mis stay your asshole.

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Speaker 1: And then but then Teresa's like, yeah, and then I'll

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Speaker 2: I was like yeah, and then and then, I mean

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Speaker 2: I don't care how I now, Mistay you are.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at, you know, a couple of different things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what I didn't understand is like they just

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Speaker 1: They're just going at it, but there's there's not even

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Speaker 2: Well, you could tell by Andy's face he was completely

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Speaker 3: Also annoyed at Janada, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was, even though even though she tried to kiss

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Speaker 1: Like a I feel like she took notes before the

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Speaker 1: but they didn't hit for me. But I did. I

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Speaker 1: thought that Melissa, I mean, I thought that Marge handled

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Speaker 1: all that pretty well. But I know we're jumping all

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's just so much to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So then the next part is Rachel says Jaden's

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Speaker 1: birth mom was contacted because Louie had someone track her down. Says,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense Louie yelled bo diedle knows things. Teresa

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Speaker 1: says Margaret pulls dirt on people but doesn't have money

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Speaker 1: to hire a PI, which please. And then Melissa tells

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Speaker 1: Teresa that her first scene this season with Margaret was

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Speaker 1: fake and wanted her storyline to be no mistake. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you what did you actually think of that makeup

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Speaker 1: with Marche I thought it was bullshit too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little bullshit, But you know what,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we need to have those little makeups so we

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Speaker 2: can move on because some of these storylines are just

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Speaker 2: they need to put a pin in it. And even

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Speaker 2: though there's not truly a pin in it, they need

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Speaker 2: to move on for the sake of the show.

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Speaker 1: True. Okay, then we get to jen Aiden says she

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Speaker 1: called Melissa and told her about the cheating rumor. This

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it so evident that she was playing producer

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Speaker 2: her whole fact, Like this happened to me. I would

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Speaker 2: or even in front of the camera, she is plating this.

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Speaker 3: That's bothersome to me, is she doesn't give. I don't

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Speaker 1: Thought Andy was going to call her out on that

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Speaker 1: personally had already talked to Melissa about it. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Danielle? This was her perfect opportunity to really stand

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Speaker 2: She was set up to do this. And she sat

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Speaker 2: you know what, that's fire, fire, goodbye. If you can't

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Speaker 3: Goodbye, Well, because she's scared of the couch that she's on.

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Speaker 3: But also, Danielle, a little tip for you.

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Speaker 1: They also set you up just now to have a

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Speaker 1: Aiden had already told Melissa. Yeah, she's when I thought

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Speaker 1: just Joe Gorga had told Melissa when the Louis conversation happened.

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Speaker 1: But once I knew jen Aiden had, I was like,

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Speaker 1: now you just want another storyline out there about a

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Speaker 1: cheater to take the heat off you in your relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, production at its finest, I didn't lock it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't lock it one bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I did like, I like the

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Speaker 2: way Jenfesler looked.

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Speaker 1: I did too. I thought she looked beautiful more so

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Speaker 1: and I liked that she wasn't afraid to like be vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: She's actually said to Andy, well, you know, Andy, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna be asked back, right, so.

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Speaker 2: I had here's my chance, here's my chance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like really endearing and cute and honest.

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Speaker 1: And I thought she was beautiful before, but to each.

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Speaker 2: His own, and she looks amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 1: She looks amazing. I also appreciated the way that Jackie

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Speaker 1: an third question about ozempic, Yeah, I same.

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Speaker 2: I feel the same about ozempic. You take it, you

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Speaker 2: lose a lot of weight. You can't be on it

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Speaker 2: of that, you know, I'm really thin and I look great.

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Speaker 2: that nobody can get that phone number two unless it's

437
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: given out, was called by Louie and was allegedly said

438
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff to him, and her child could

439
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: look at the color idea and say hey, Louie, and

440
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: at that point Louie hung up. So this but did

441
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: you notice when this was brought up on air on

442
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: the couch, Teresa reached behind her, took her phone out,

443
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: started texting who I think? She texts Louie to let

444
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: him know, Okay, this has happened, go ahead and make

445
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: those calls and somehow Louie was able to call her

446
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: two times and let her know. Oh look, Andy, I mean,

447
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: how convenient and how set up was that?

448
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I just I mean clearly they knew this was coming up,

449
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: because I think one point, Margaret says, you know all

450
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: this legals involved already, so they called. I mean, it

451
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: really goes to show what.

452
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: An actress she is. Man Like, She's like, like, what

453
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I never heard this? Yes you have, Yes, you have

454
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: your attorney.

455
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Then contract. Then she has the balls to then get

456
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: mad at Dolores because Dolores didn't call her after she

457
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: found out. And I appreciate Delores, It's like, why would

458
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: I One you already knew, and two I don't want

459
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: to be involved in this ship show, right, Like why

460
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: add more people to the mix, Like this is already

461
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation, This is already But why would.

462
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: Dolores call her to tell her when she already knew?

463
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: When Delores knew she knew.

464
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: That's my point. There's no one.

465
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: It's just Teresa trying twisting twisting man, that la manipulator.

466
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't think that Melissa. I thought, yes, Melissa

467
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: made very good points at the beginning, but then Melyssa

468
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: fell into the trap of tip for tat with me

469
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: with Teresa, and that's where it just kind of got

470
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: like when Teresa to Melissa is like, I can't wait

471
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: to never see your face again after today, and then

472
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Andy says, let me know how that goes. Yes, I

473
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: don't see a casting agent in Teresa's future.

474
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Well didn't he say something like you know how that

475
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: ends up? Something like that?

476
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

477
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you say that, you might be the one

478
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: that's going to go. But my question, conversating is conversating?

479
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh Danielle was so happy about that.

480
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I think it's conversing. And if

481
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you even put conversating into your iPhone, it will not

482
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: it will not accept it. It's not a word, and

483
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: not that that. Your iPhone's a dictionary.

484
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Go to urban dictionary.

485
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: So I think it's it like Markt's right, it's kind

486
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: of a new.

487
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if it's an urban dictionary, you can use

488
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: it urban dictionary.

489
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't that where glory holes in and things like that?

490
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a word.

491
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: We say, it's it's.

492
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: For saving convert mhm, no, no, we have a problem.

493
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: So it's slang.

494
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: It's slang, So I don't think it's I mean, here's

495
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: the thing you're allowed to say.

496
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: Slang slang is you know, whatever.

497
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: But but Margaret wasn't wrong the ox the Oxford Dictionary

498
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: does list converse sate converse sate all right, Teresa says

499
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Marge is an old hat. Margretwarts Teresa is a criminal,

500
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Teresa gets you know, the two calls from Margaret coincidence,

501
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: all those.

502
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: Things so stage it made me want to poke my

503
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: eyeballs out, and it made me annoyed that Andy didn't

504
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: even like say like, oh, come on, come on.

505
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Even then Andy got into the hacking thing, was a

506
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: little bit confusing.

507
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: Well, they just gives her a way out. And that's

508
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: what pisses me up, because fifty percent of the people

509
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: are gonna go, oh, there's a hacking thing going on. No, guys,

510
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: this hacking thing is phone calls within You have to

511
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: have that person's phone number in your phone to even

512
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: get a call from them. So it looks like Vicky's

513
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: calling me, but nobody's there on the other line. So

514
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: it's just it pissed me off that that was kind

515
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: of like, oh, well, you know, it could have been that. No,

516
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't that. It wasn't that. And let me ask

517
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: you a question. Have you gotten one of those calls lately? No,

518
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: neither of I. I haven't gotten one in over probably

519
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: two months. Well.

520
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: Also, sometimes you can get like a group text.

521
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: Have you gotten that? Like one time it was like

522
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: me and Andy at like forty five people on it. No,

523
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell? And then I

524
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: asked and He's like, I know, I got it too.

525
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, I've gotten text messages from uh what

526
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: looks like somebody, but it's not but not like a

527
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: group one.

528
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: So did you love this reunion?

529
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean I have people that were saying like, oh,

530
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed, like that was so good. I personally, when

531
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: I look around that room and I look at Eviriendships,

532
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was it made me feel yucky.

533
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: It made me feel yucky, it was evil. It kind

534
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: of pretty much sealed the deal that these two cannot

535
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: work together.

536
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: But also when you look around and this isn't me,

537
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: This is truly not me picking aside. This is truly

538
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: just me looking at the foundation of the group. If

539
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Melissa is gone, Teresa stays, who are Teresa's friends jen

540
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: Aiden and Dolores.

541
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Yep, three Musketeers.

542
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Then we've got Marge, but.

543
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Danielle, Rachel, Jackie, Rachel.

544
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Jackie, I don't know. We heard rumors Jackie's gone, oh really,

545
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows. But I don't take.

546
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Anybody knows what's gonna happen yet. I don't even think

547
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: Bravo knows how to fix this because it's bad and

548
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: it can't continue.

549
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Like this well, and it's gonna get worse. We see

550
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: in the scenes for next week when Teresa is like,

551
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I'm running out, and then she's like, I

552
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: don't know who she's talking to you she's talking.

553
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: To Joe because last reunion Joe chased after her. Ah

554
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: m hm, and she's like, down, God, Barbie, and he

555
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: probably is like, I don't want to.

556
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: I have another question. Have you tried to what did

557
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: they call it a pussy pot? Have you tried that?

558
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know what a pussy pot is.

559
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: I've heard of it. So one of my friends uses

560
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: it all the time, and she says that it is

561
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: a game changer.

562
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: So don't you watch game changer for what was it?

563
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Do you spray it on your who? Who? And then it.

564
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: Gives you like these really intense.

565
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh is it?

566
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

567
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: I actually I was given one. Actually we were looking

568
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: into that and I have a sample of that and yeah,

569
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: that does it does work?

570
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: Can you send it to me? Because I went on

571
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Ease the app last night to see if it existed

572
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: there after the first because I have to watch this

573
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: so two times. The first time I watched the show,

574
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: I went on Ease, I'm like, I'm curious. If it's

575
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: not there it maybe well.

576
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I should make some maybe I should go well,

577
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I didn't know. How was that big of a deal.

578
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: Dam Let's do this one together and we'll call it the.

579
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Twat Twat.

580
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: Twat Cream. If mine was cream, the example that I

581
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: had gotten was a cream.

582
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Okay? We also have to talk

583
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more about jen Aden, even though I

584
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: liked her normally, but this this reunion was rough for

585
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: me when she goes over and beyond about how happy

586
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: she is in her marriage and how she's blaming Margaret

587
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: for her daughter wanting to be a love therapist not

588
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: a Broadway star.

589
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: Stop. I can't with the blaming. Nobody in Jersey takes

590
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: accountability It's just mind blowing to me.

591
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: You hear this on a reality like if this was

592
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: solely because she saw on a TikTok that this is

593
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: what it happened between her parents' relationship and it hurt her.

594
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: All that I completely understand.

595
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: But her going through and saying she wants to be

596
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: a love therapist, I don't have I don't think it

597
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: has anything to do with Marge.

598
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: No, it has nothing to do with Marge.

599
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Stop it.

600
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: You put yourself on a reality show. If your reality

601
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: is your husband is cheating on you, you better damn

602
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: well believe.

603
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: That's going to be brought up. Yeah, but do you

604
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: think that Rachel was blaming on that same token? Do

605
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: you think that Rachel was blaming uh Louis No.

606
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think it's probably true. I

607
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: think they probably in the way, her husband went ballistic, Adam,

608
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: he had proof that this guy is digging up dirt

609
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: on everybody and contacting people, and now Barbaret's businesses were

610
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: contacted like this, her her child was contacted like he

611
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: even said multiple times, I have dirt on all of you.

612
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I also don't necessarily understand this last portion. I know

613
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: we're like it's because it was this there's so this

614
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: is a hard episode to recap because it was the

615
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over again. But when

616
00:33:53,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: it comes to Lisa and Joe and Teresa and Louie,

617
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: why Louie felt the need to only speak to Joe,

618
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Like was he so close with Joe he was really

619
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: concerned that Melissa was cheating on him? And my knowledge

620
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: of men in the past, if you're really close to

621
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: a man, probably not going to have like you bring

622
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: your wife into the conversation.

623
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: No.

624
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine Eddie or Edwin getting involved in

625
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: that situation. It's so stupid.

626
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: It was just like, could you imagine if.

627
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I heard a rumor that you cheated?

628
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell Edwin and Edwin behind my back, doesn't

629
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: tells Eddie Sadie.

630
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: It's bananas, right right?

631
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean in this situation, Eddie would be like, I

632
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: am not getting involved in this ship.

633
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: I am not. The way to add actually handle it

634
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: if this were to go down would be I would

635
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: call you, Hey, we heard this information.

636
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm giving you a heads up. If it's true, you

637
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: need to come clean to Eddie.

638
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: If it's not true, this is what's going around and

639
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: go from there.

640
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: It's a hard situation to be in. I don't know

641
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: that I get involved. We have a friend. If you

642
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: had a friend that's cheating on their wife or husband

643
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: or whatever, to put yourself in the middle is going

644
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: to be a disaster, a huge disaster. So I think

645
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: that he knew that. They knew that, and they wanted

646
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: to do it off camera so they didn't look the

647
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: bad people. And then they had jen Aiden go out

648
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: and spill it.

649
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Why do you think that jen Aiden was so upset? Like,

650
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: am I just having revisionish history? But like, was jen

651
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: Aiden close with Teresa before.

652
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: Jen Aiden close? I think they from what I've seen. Yeah.

653
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I thought was hilarious

654
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: was when Jackie they panned to the arsenal and they're

655
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: like grilling people about what arsenal it's mean, and no

656
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: one really knows the actual definition. But then they say,

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Speaker 1: then Jackie says, yeah, I did say she would be

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Speaker 1: not an enemy that I would want because she's like

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Speaker 1: a true opponent, like or whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: And then I think most people would see that about

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Speaker 2: me too.

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Speaker 1: I think people would say that about anybody that's outspoken, right,

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Speaker 1: but then Teresa goes, oh, yeah, I only said it

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Speaker 1: because Jackie said it. You weren't there when Jackie said it.

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Speaker 1: Jackie said it to Dolores.

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Speaker 2: Her lies, I mean, the lies are just intense.

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Speaker 3: You think she knows that there lies or she's just delusional.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 2: I would hope that somebody knows when they're lying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think she twists

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Speaker 1: things in.

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Speaker 2: Her own head and then she believes them.

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Speaker 1: But do you think she is twisting them on her

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Speaker 1: own or do you think it's because at one point

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Speaker 1: they say, well, and where it gets really sad is

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Speaker 1: when it's like you're pathetic. You're pathetic. You're pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, And I mean the whole conversation was pathetic.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're very calculated. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the whole I saw it firsthand with the suddenly she

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Speaker 2: grabs her phone after that Marge conversation about her child

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Speaker 2: being called, and they're trying to make it sound like

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Speaker 2: it was a fake call, and they're trying to manipulate

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Speaker 2: and switch this. I mean, that's some serious shit right there.

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Speaker 2: Serious manipulation right there. And then fact phone to start calling.

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Speaker 2: Oh look Andy, look it's like, oh, you lost me

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Speaker 2: right there. That was so fake.

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Speaker 1: It was fake. But we're out of time for today.

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Speaker 1: Tam in New York finally going you guys, so you

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Speaker 1: know we will be having a special guest to co

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Speaker 1: host Orange County with me, but Tamra, because I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking to you until next week. Remember, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about watch What Happens Live. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about all those things next week.

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Speaker 1: So when we talked Monday to recap Atlanta, be ready

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Speaker 1: with additional good stories for us. I will, okay I

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Speaker 1: miss yet, send me what you decided to wear and

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Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I will.

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Speaker 1: I