Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL. Podcast is the Mike McCarthy on
Speaker 1: time management from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around
Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas. I'm with heroes, Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler, the three of us, along with Ricky Hollywood.
Speaker 1: She got her credential. We're at Sophie Stadium about an
Speaker 1: hour ago watching the Steelers Chargers clash and uh, I
Speaker 1: hate to say Greggy, but we blew it in a
Speaker 1: big spot. We leave. I'm looking at the game summary here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to all the games. Uh. Week
Speaker 1: eleven played Sunday in just a bit, but we leave.
Speaker 1: At thirty t Austin Ekeler goes in from five yards
Speaker 1: out seven place, seventy five yards to seven possession. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Pittsburgh, They're just never gonna get a stop.
Speaker 1: As soon as we leave the building, we get Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers five yard touchdown pass thirty four um No. We
Speaker 1: get a Eric Ebron touchdown nine place, seventy five yards.
Speaker 1: We get an interception by the Chargers Pat Friar Muth
Speaker 1: five yards, uh touchdown two yards to plays eleven yards
Speaker 1: thirty four Boswell forty five yard field goal after an
Speaker 1: interception that went off of a helmet four. There was
Speaker 1: a block punt earlier, we did see that. And then
Speaker 1: a classic ending for the Chargers and their fans. There
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of them in that building, but a
Speaker 1: classic ending. And we're gonna get to all of it.
Speaker 1: But Mark, you know we left before the classic part
Speaker 1: of the game entered the equation. I know you were
Speaker 1: upset seal those Steelers fans. Uh sad at the end
Speaker 1: of the game and miss out on that. Did get
Speaker 1: to see Kim Hayward punch Justin Herbert on the ground. Um,
Speaker 1: that's when I decided to leave at one point. I
Speaker 1: mean it was I remember growing up. I used to
Speaker 1: get on this one kid because he had a story
Speaker 1: that he and his dad left Game six of Mets
Speaker 1: Red sox um when he was a youth. I was like,
Speaker 1: you you don't. I would never myself do that. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the equal because the stakes weren't
Speaker 1: even remotely close, but uh, my car, and it's not
Speaker 1: our team and we were coming back to recorda show.
Speaker 1: That's true, But I would just say that it's the
Speaker 1: first time I've ever found myself in this situation where
Speaker 1: like theatrics and amazing moments happened after I was not
Speaker 1: in the bad, very very I came very close to
Speaker 1: going back into the building because we had the press pass,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't get any internal support. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have, we could have gotten in this
Speaker 1: same day. The thing that was crazy about it though,
Speaker 1: is we left during the Steelers touchdown drive which made
Speaker 1: it thirty seven thirty four to twenty seven, so that
Speaker 1: that drive started with under nine minutes to go. We
Speaker 1: were watching on TV here and that drive wasn't over yet.
Speaker 1: That's how close we are to get it back. That
Speaker 1: we got back within a four minute drive from the
Speaker 1: game from the press box two here. That was taken
Speaker 1: in a private helicopter from the press box to or
Speaker 1: the It's an amazing thing. The stadium was amazing, And yeah,
Speaker 1: like Chargers fans get a lot of grief because fans
Speaker 1: come in and take their stadium number one. A lot
Speaker 1: of Steelers fans were walking out with us when we
Speaker 1: left when they were down by two touchdowns. So bad
Speaker 1: job by you guys, because your team went and took
Speaker 1: a lead later on and then second of all the
Speaker 1: atmosphere where there's two different fan bases cheering, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not great if you're a Chargers fan, but it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool, Like it's the Chargers fans were still loud
Speaker 1: in there and the Steelers fans were loud, and like,
Speaker 1: as someone who's not a fan of either, it's just
Speaker 1: like it was a it's a cool atmosphere. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's okay start going through the games, and we'll start
Speaker 1: with the game that we were at but missed out
Speaker 1: all the fun on. Let's head to Sofi Stadium with
Speaker 1: the great Matt Money spent on the call. Here comes
Speaker 1: the blitz throw outside the numbers, caught side Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: Cardinals into the end side Chargers fifty three yards. How
Speaker 1: bong goes right out the gate. And I want Money
Speaker 1: to know because Money listens to the show and he
Speaker 1: is the voice of God for the Round the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: and the voice of the Chargers is that we got
Speaker 1: back here late. And I said, hey, we gotta get
Speaker 1: the money call, not the Westwood one call, not the
Speaker 1: al Michaels called the money call. And Ricky and Grave
Speaker 1: Digger said it's gonna be an extra ten minutes or so,
Speaker 1: and I said, it's worth it. He's the voice of God.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the big plays and recent Chargers history.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert to Mike Williams from for fifty three yards.
Speaker 1: It is the game winning score. One of the craziest
Speaker 1: games of the season. Seven the Chargers beat the Steelers,
Speaker 1: a game that featured twenty seven points from the Steelers
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, many of them coming after we
Speaker 1: had left the building. Mark A game that looked like
Speaker 1: it was in the Steelers back pocket. They let it
Speaker 1: uh in the Charges back pocket. The Steelers storm back,
Speaker 1: but somehow l A finds a way. Sissler, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: stunned by what we watched. Although I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like if someone told me before the game, will this
Speaker 1: thing go down to the end because it is the Chargers,
Speaker 1: I would have said yes. But I mean to think
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are oh and two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: this stunning stat when trailing by seventeen in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of games that they climbed back out of it.
Speaker 1: I did that. That thing threw me right there. But
Speaker 1: it was a series of Chargers mistakes that opened the door.
Speaker 1: And then at the end, because I think their offense
Speaker 1: had been so hot all night long. At one point
Speaker 1: it was like four hundred and something yards too, about
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy for the Steelers. They were moving
Speaker 1: the ball at will. Justin Herbert was running wild on them,
Speaker 1: and it was a very Chargers esque almost ending, and
Speaker 1: they climbed their way out of it. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Chargers scored on their first five possessions, but in in
Speaker 1: weird Charges fashion, they actually had more possessions in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter then they did in the first three combined,
Speaker 1: and that included the block punt. We did see that, Danny.
Speaker 1: I mean we didn't miss everything. We saw some dimes
Speaker 1: from Justin Herbert. I mean the the throw that he
Speaker 1: had to alan in the first quarter, like the whole shot,
Speaker 1: and then the thirty yard baby down the field and
Speaker 1: the third quarter like those are amazing to see live.
Speaker 1: Then you got an interception of Flukey play off a helmet,
Speaker 1: you go for it on fourth down in your own end,
Speaker 1: and when they didn't get it, this is the moment
Speaker 1: where the Steelers have a chance to go win the game,
Speaker 1: put a touchdown in. You know, this is the moment
Speaker 1: where you say, like if Herbert doesn't win this game.
Speaker 1: This is catastrophic. He's got to go down and make
Speaker 1: a drive. And he had a chance to make a
Speaker 1: drive because the Steelers went three and out right after
Speaker 1: they didn't get the fourth down, So that that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason why you go for the fourth down,
Speaker 1: because your defense can pick you up. They did, and
Speaker 1: then instead of everything crumbling like you said it would have,
Speaker 1: and that this was a big moment in Chargers history,
Speaker 1: that Herbert was gonna become part of Chargers like like
Speaker 1: lower in terms of being cursed, he didn't do it well. Yes,
Speaker 1: what I said before the mic wet to play was
Speaker 1: with the world falling down and forty five thousand Steelers
Speaker 1: fans waving towels in l A going nuts, if the
Speaker 1: Chargers blew this game in front of Al Chris Michelle
Speaker 1: in the world and Herbert was right in the middle
Speaker 1: of it, even if he had played a good game overall,
Speaker 1: a great game overall, to me, it's like he's part
Speaker 1: of this now. He's part of all of this Chargers pain,
Speaker 1: and it's very real. And any Charger fan, no matter
Speaker 1: where you are in the country, uh knows that. And
Speaker 1: yet I thought that was like kind of like the
Speaker 1: big overarching story is that Justin Herbert uh and I
Speaker 1: know it was a busted coverage by Pittsburgh, and Collinsworth
Speaker 1: pointed it out correctly that there's no way you have
Speaker 1: a busted coverage in that spot on the Williams TV
Speaker 1: if Mickay Fitzpatrick was playing. And there's so many big
Speaker 1: time players with the Steelers that were out, including t J.
Speaker 1: Watt and Joe Hayden uh and fits Patrick uh. So
Speaker 1: the fact that they were almost able to come back
Speaker 1: and win really is a testament. And Big Ben played
Speaker 1: well in this game. But to me, Justin Herbert's ability
Speaker 1: to say no, no, no, no, screw all that the
Speaker 1: ghosts of the past, screw the fact that there are
Speaker 1: forty five thousand people from Pennsylvania ready to party in
Speaker 1: our building. I Am going to make sure we leave
Speaker 1: a winner. And if you're charges man, you just have
Speaker 1: to be pinching yourself that you have somebody who has
Speaker 1: that power. And I mean, Justin Herbert all night long
Speaker 1: was showing us who he was, and it was you know,
Speaker 1: it's his arm, it's the dimes he threw. I was
Speaker 1: just so impressed with how he kept fileting the Steelers
Speaker 1: on the ground ninety yards off nine carries, so many
Speaker 1: of those that move the chains, and the Steelers climbing
Speaker 1: back in. I mean, it was it wasn't I want
Speaker 1: to call it flukey, because they made the plays they
Speaker 1: needed to play. But they had a touchdown drive that
Speaker 1: was eleven yards, a field goal drive that was seven
Speaker 1: and it's other touchdown drive with the net yards of
Speaker 1: three yards. I mean, it's like they were they were
Speaker 1: just setting. They were put in position to climb back
Speaker 1: into this thing in a flukey way, and the Chargers,
Speaker 1: their offense, which had been cooking all game long, answered
Speaker 1: when they needed to. You're right, he would have been
Speaker 1: baked in justin Herbert into that scenari that the Charges
Speaker 1: were lost something like thirty four games in the in
Speaker 1: this scenario in the fourth quarter since two thousand and eleven,
Speaker 1: and that did there have been one of those this year,
Speaker 1: but you know under in past years there were multiple.
Speaker 1: He is not part of that story. He is not well.
Speaker 1: He was a little bit last year. They were cursed,
Speaker 1: but they finished wrong. Both these teams need to evolve
Speaker 1: or they're not gonna go anywhere They're They're flawed teams
Speaker 1: right now, but we've seen that teams can change during
Speaker 1: the season. This was Ben's best game of the season,
Speaker 1: so it once they get their defensive players back. That's
Speaker 1: something good to feel about this Chargers defense, though, is
Speaker 1: it's a problem Herbert though three two and ninety No
Speaker 1: one's ever put up that in the history of the
Speaker 1: NFL three that many yards throwing and that many yards rushing.
Speaker 1: There you go, I mean, I do it gets important.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no wat in this game. There's no
Speaker 1: make of Fitzpatrick. I think there were plays where it
Speaker 1: had make of Fitzpatrick been in the in the game,
Speaker 1: it would have been very different for the Chargers. But
Speaker 1: every team's dealing with that. Uh. And we will see
Speaker 1: where the Steelers go from here. Again, they there are
Speaker 1: five four and one. They had the embarrassing tie last week.
Speaker 1: They really fought their butts off to get back into
Speaker 1: this game. But you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're cooked into that the mediocre stew that has become
Speaker 1: the a f C North. So they still have a
Speaker 1: chance to make a playoff runs. The Chargers due too,
Speaker 1: But you're right right, neither of these teams are perfect
Speaker 1: neither of these teams profile is a true Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1: But look at the rest of the league right now.
Speaker 1: There you can look at any team really and say
Speaker 1: not a true Super Bowl team. Well, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: two teams playing in the Super Bowl. Um. Great game
Speaker 1: in Austin. Ekeler by the way, four touchdowns this night.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be at a football game altogether. I
Speaker 1: know we were there in London, but it wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: the whole group, and this was this was our first
Speaker 1: game together since since we were off. We saw last
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and with that the Chiefs one. When we
Speaker 1: saw David Justice, we saw Snoop Dogg, we saw Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, think there was a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff happening outside of the tick tack of the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of visual there's a visual feast.
Speaker 1: Great stadium. Um, that was a lot of fun, even
Speaker 1: if we blew it anyway, there are more games to
Speaker 1: get to. So Ricky, let us roll up nine yard
Speaker 1: field goal to win the game against the eight and
Speaker 1: jew Packers, right ash or Joseph snappy jump. He woke
Speaker 1: up on the green day Packers kid him Joseph Paul
Speaker 1: Allen with a call k f A and Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: went off again eight for one, sixty nine and two touches,
Speaker 1: and Greg Joseph Booda that twenty nine yard field goals
Speaker 1: time expired to give the Vikings a thirty four thirty
Speaker 1: one win over the Packers. Just the classic back and
Speaker 1: forth game, two division rivals that hate each other. Who
Speaker 1: loved it, loved this game? You're a Vikings fan at
Speaker 1: this point. I think we that's made clear to the listeners.
Speaker 1: The team of Zeus Steel and I said on Thursday,
Speaker 1: I thought the Vikings are gonna win this game because
Speaker 1: they are a real deal team. They are a team
Speaker 1: that can let you down. They could go lay an
Speaker 1: egg in the next game. That would not surprise me either.
Speaker 1: But when they are playing well, they can beat anybody
Speaker 1: in the league. And a lot of that goes back
Speaker 1: to their offense and when Justin Jefferson is being used
Speaker 1: in the right way as he's been used these last
Speaker 1: two weeks and Kirk, when Kirk Cousins is playing at
Speaker 1: a level, Greg, do you know the stat I believe
Speaker 1: it is d y a R Yeah, yards over replacement
Speaker 1: basically about he is second in the NFL. Now, Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: and that's that. I mean, he is having an incredible scene.
Speaker 1: I mean the stat that he has literally the highest
Speaker 1: completion percentage since next Gen Stats has kept track of
Speaker 1: it on throws over ten yards is out rageous in
Speaker 1: the last five years Kirk Cousins seasons right now, that's
Speaker 1: down the field throws. It's not those things and done.
Speaker 1: So what's happening here is that Cousins is playing better
Speaker 1: than ever. Jefferson is arguably, I think the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in football. You have the best second Banana and
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling and then Dalvin Cook and it was just
Speaker 1: a great game. And Aaron Rodgers played brilliantly as well
Speaker 1: on the other side of the football. Um and it
Speaker 1: just came down to Minnesota got the ball last, and
Speaker 1: they made the kick and went home. And afterwards Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer uh he you know, he's sick of this. The
Speaker 1: Vikings have held a lead of at least seven or
Speaker 1: more points in every game this year, and all of
Speaker 1: their games have been decided by one score. It's taking
Speaker 1: years off the man's life. And you can hear it
Speaker 1: in his press conferences Sundays are not fun. You know,
Speaker 1: they say Sunday's Funday and it's not. It's not at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sorry, but Mike Zimmer has never
Speaker 1: participated in what we would call is Sunday Fundays. Sunday
Speaker 1: is Funday. Doesn't even if they say then though, who
Speaker 1: says that? Did they say Sundays fun day? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think Zimmers our spirit animal animal
Speaker 1: a little bit, and Ricky, we should trim that, take
Speaker 1: that drop for the future because that was fun anyway,
Speaker 1: great game, Like I said, Rogers Cousins going at it
Speaker 1: back and forth before the game winning kicked Greg for
Speaker 1: the Vikings. It was Rogers with a beautiful rainbow strike
Speaker 1: to m VS for seventy five yards. It was just
Speaker 1: that type of game. You know, you scored too quick.
Speaker 1: You don't want to give Cure Cousins that much time.
Speaker 1: It's for real when he gets a chance to put
Speaker 1: them in position to win. This year, almost every time
Speaker 1: he's done it. One thing that struck me just statistically
Speaker 1: is the Packers pressured Cousins on over of his throws,
Speaker 1: which is a really high number. So for Cousins who
Speaker 1: after the game said that maybe he was even a
Speaker 1: little too aggressive, and he got away with something was like,
Speaker 1: don't think that, Kirk. This this Kirk that we've seen
Speaker 1: the last two especially where you've been so aggressive, is
Speaker 1: why you've won these games. Well, it's two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row where you know, again we all have Vikings
Speaker 1: friends that are fans and there they've been out of
Speaker 1: their minds. They've closed games two weeks throw. This is
Speaker 1: a as big as it gets for them, and I
Speaker 1: like the Packers come out of it banged up. Elton Jenkins.
Speaker 1: They think he might have torn his a c L.
Speaker 1: That's a huge loss for them. Aaron Rodgers has this
Speaker 1: toe injury that he said it is worse than turn
Speaker 1: do we have Rogers. Let's see Rodgers at XU. This
Speaker 1: is notable. Yeah, I mean it's very, very painful. We
Speaker 1: got stepped on in the first half and that kind
Speaker 1: of activated all the symptoms I was having. So just
Speaker 1: give me another painful week next week, and then hopefully
Speaker 1: started to feel a little better than by do you man,
Speaker 1: you ever like walk in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: through your house, like bang your big toe on like
Speaker 1: the edge of a door. I want to punch someone
Speaker 1: in the head when that happens, like this is three
Speaker 1: times ten times worse than that day. We'll see he
Speaker 1: was moving well in this game, and he actually threw
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes, all on green Bay's final form possessions.
Speaker 1: So this might got to watch it, but it's up
Speaker 1: there as the best game the Packers offense has had
Speaker 1: all year. They were great, and they didn't even you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny because you a J. Dill and all the
Speaker 1: talk around him, he didn't really they never really gave
Speaker 1: him a chance to get things going. He but he
Speaker 1: was active. He was active in the passing game, so
Speaker 1: he he had a role with it. But it was
Speaker 1: really you know, Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers being unstoppable, mvs.
Speaker 1: Making a big play down the field. So I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about their offense, but it does remind you again
Speaker 1: because we and we all talked up Green Bay's defense
Speaker 1: over the past three weeks or so. It's like even
Speaker 1: the defenses that we decided a quote unquote good, then
Speaker 1: the game comes like this, like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: any week, they're good for like six days while we
Speaker 1: talked them up, and then they get wax It's good
Speaker 1: for this division though, because it brings it, it makes
Speaker 1: it ten times more interesting. All right, let us uh
Speaker 1: move on. So the Vikings they get a big win,
Speaker 1: and now we head to Arrowhead where the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: looking to make a statement. Four man rush Chiefs pushed
Speaker 1: the pocket again. They hit Prescott, sack Prescott five sack
Speaker 1: performance by the Chiefs. Chris Jones that is his fourth
Speaker 1: sack of this game. Mitch hold us what they called
Speaker 1: w d a f They gave him credible half sack there,
Speaker 1: which come on, when you have a game like Chris
Speaker 1: Jones had on Sunday, you give him the full sack.
Speaker 1: The other guy will understand. Chris Jones finished with three
Speaker 1: and a half. He forced the fumble, also recovered another
Speaker 1: tre various white Lagarius Snead both intercepted Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: big points of the game and the a f C
Speaker 1: West leading Chief's role nineteen nine over the Cowboys. Greg
Speaker 1: we all expected, all right, let's admit it. We hoped
Speaker 1: for an epic shootout. Instead, Casey's fast improving defense did
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. It was a shocking game, shocking final
Speaker 1: nineteen to nine in chief Cowboys deck was out of it,
Speaker 1: miss throws, discombobulated, Steve Spagnola blitz them uh into Smith reens.
Speaker 1: They didn't have Tyrann Smith in this game. Their left
Speaker 1: tackle Amari Cooper of course got covid then Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: left at halftime. But it was ugly in the first
Speaker 1: half two So you can't just you can't just put
Speaker 1: it on the injuries. It was the Chiefs defense. And
Speaker 1: again you give them so much praise. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen week after week, but they were just aggressive.
Speaker 1: They were open field tackling. Like I said, they were blitzing.
Speaker 1: He got blitzed, I think on fourteen different throws, and
Speaker 1: he ended up with fifty four yards in an interception
Speaker 1: on those throws. And usually Dak Prescott's kind of known
Speaker 1: as the guy who kills the blitz. So it was
Speaker 1: an unconventional strategy. And on a day where Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: basically at the same stat line as all those games
Speaker 1: where everyone were killing the Chief's offense, he ends up
Speaker 1: with two d and sixty yards in a pick on
Speaker 1: thirty seven attempts to pick. Was flukey. Uh. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: win going away, and you never really felt that it
Speaker 1: was that close because the Chiefs defense and especially Chris
Speaker 1: Jones just gave it to him over and over. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to think. I mean, it must have
Speaker 1: been frustrating as a Cowboys fan when you're trying to
Speaker 1: get back in this game and the offense, Dallas offense,
Speaker 1: because the d played well uh for the Cowboys, so
Speaker 1: they kept on giving the ball back to Doak and
Speaker 1: sending them back on the fields, like, all right, come on,
Speaker 1: get going, get us back in this game, take a lead,
Speaker 1: go win the game. But then when you lose seed
Speaker 1: ceedee Lamb when you have a Mark Coover, by the way,
Speaker 1: was not vaccinated. So not only is he out this game,
Speaker 1: he's missing Thanksgiving, he's killing his team. Um. You find
Speaker 1: the Cowboys having to targets Cedric Wilson over and over again,
Speaker 1: trying to mount to come back. Michael Galb, who was
Speaker 1: on I R is now your number one wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like they were a little shorthanded
Speaker 1: when they really needed to be explosive. It's just like
Speaker 1: this is now to two out of three weeks where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are looking very human. Um, and if you're
Speaker 1: a Cowboy van, you're a little bit nervous. You never
Speaker 1: want to peak too early. Did the Cowboys peak? I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet, but it's just it's on the radar.
Speaker 1: Radar after the last three or they're like eight of
Speaker 1: the league, which is going to give you an inconsistent product.
Speaker 1: That's just fine with that. I did not know what.
Speaker 1: I was not ready to believe in Kansas City's defense.
Speaker 1: They gave up seventeen to the Giants, seven to a
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love led Packers team. Throw that out out the
Speaker 1: window and that wipe out against the Raiders. This this,
Speaker 1: I buy into this. I realized Dallas was down guys,
Speaker 1: but they just seemed to have their active That's a
Speaker 1: full month of games right there where they aren't the
Speaker 1: mess they were early on in the season. To me,
Speaker 1: I buy that. And for Dallas, like I, I don't
Speaker 1: care about the Broncos game, but it's two of three
Speaker 1: weeks with shaky results. But they played three games in
Speaker 1: twelve games in twelve days, and to not have a
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper for two of them as a killer Tyrone
Speaker 1: Smith I think is the most important of all of them.
Speaker 1: But we will see. If it looked like Lamb was
Speaker 1: getting his head checked out. Maybe it was a concussion.
Speaker 1: It sounded like, uh, that's a problem. They have the
Speaker 1: Raiders on Thanksgiving. We'll get into that during the week.
Speaker 1: But I think some of the Chiefs defensive resurgence is
Speaker 1: sustainable because a bags does this year after year where
Speaker 1: they start slow and they finish strongk and then be
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram was a nice pickup. He's made plays in
Speaker 1: these games. They've put Chris Jones at defensive tackle again
Speaker 1: instead of having him on the end, and he was
Speaker 1: dominant in this game. And Frank Clark has been good
Speaker 1: for three straight weeks. So suddenly your two best players
Speaker 1: are playing like the guys you're paying the twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year for, and like that sustainable those guys
Speaker 1: can keep winning and that even though I I pointed
Speaker 1: out the box score look the same and the final
Speaker 1: score was the same, the Chiefs did start this game
Speaker 1: with you know, seventeen points in their first three drives
Speaker 1: and made big plays when they needed to. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was a terrible offensive performance either. Maybe what
Speaker 1: ultimately like right now in the NFL, what it means
Speaker 1: to have a good defense is to have a defense
Speaker 1: that can carry you for a stretch of time like
Speaker 1: two or three weeks or even a month when your
Speaker 1: offense isn't quite right, and they can get you some
Speaker 1: wins that you would lose typically because as there are
Speaker 1: just a lot of dominant defenses in the league right now,
Speaker 1: and and a dominant player for the Cowboys is Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: who has that defensive Brookie of the Year locked up.
Speaker 1: He was unstoppable in this game. Two sacks, forced to fumble, um.
Speaker 1: He was a big time player in this I love
Speaker 1: that theory because we keep propping up defense A, B
Speaker 1: and C during the week, and if we if the
Speaker 1: expectation is we really are only saying they'll be good
Speaker 1: for about a fortnite, then we're off that. Like we
Speaker 1: look up at it, Well, it's like a matchup thing too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they're capable of carrying you, but they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do it a you. Parsons had more pressures, by the way,
Speaker 1: in this game. I think that then it was a
Speaker 1: PF stat than any player ever or something like that,
Speaker 1: or a certain amount of years. It was over twelve.
Speaker 1: He was at twelve and he got the thirteen or
Speaker 1: fourteen pressures in one game. I believe the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: held to two seventy six yards. Uh? Wait was that
Speaker 1: and the only scored the Chiefs had the ball. To
Speaker 1: your point about keep getting the ball back after they
Speaker 1: scored sixteen points because of a missed extra point in
Speaker 1: the first three drives, they go punt, punt, fumble, interception, punt,
Speaker 1: field goal, miss field goal, punt. So the Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: did what they could to keep this assistant Coach of
Speaker 1: the Year candidates. The Cowboys were held to two seventy
Speaker 1: six yards. This is the high scoring offense in the league,
Speaker 1: held to five or fifteen on third down. They need
Speaker 1: to get healthy. Uh, and Dak has to play a
Speaker 1: little bit better. So uh they're they're slept. They gotta
Speaker 1: get it together. Fissures in the locker room. Now let's
Speaker 1: take a break. He's gonna turn give off the Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor showed up at the one forward. There's five number five.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor has held the inch sold five times in
Speaker 1: the game and the Colts have six more on the board.
Speaker 1: It is thirty seven to seven. Who Joey Lawrence and Blossom?
Speaker 1: Whoam Matt Taylor? Rick vent Terry? The call for w
Speaker 1: f N I Jonathan Taylor said, a franchise record with
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, and he took over the NFL lead in
Speaker 1: both yards rushing and TVs. And the Colts route the
Speaker 1: spiraling Buffalo Bills in Orchard Park. It doesn't matter anymore,
Speaker 1: but it was in Buffalo. You should know that, Shookie.
Speaker 1: We welcome him aboard. Now the pipe joins us. The
Speaker 1: Colts looked like the better team from the kickoff in
Speaker 1: this game, and Jonathan Taylor has just entered into the
Speaker 1: m v P chat. Don't you agree? Yeah? I would
Speaker 1: absolutely agree. I mean, you're the rushing leader and you're
Speaker 1: doing it with emphasis, and I think no more emphatic
Speaker 1: than this game today. And you know the Colts, they
Speaker 1: got off the bus ready to play. It was clear
Speaker 1: in their first drive. They went eleven place for sixty
Speaker 1: five yards Captain with a Taylor touchdown. They get a
Speaker 1: turnover and they turn that into another touchdown via pass.
Speaker 1: They punched the Bills in the mouth. They proved to
Speaker 1: them that going to Orchard Park not scare them. Playing
Speaker 1: an inclement weather did not scare them because they have
Speaker 1: right now the NFL's best running back in terms of
Speaker 1: overall rushing yards in Jonathan Taylor, who was the engine
Speaker 1: that powered them offensively with his five touchdowns, and really
Speaker 1: the Bills had no answer. I mean for the entire game,
Speaker 1: they had no answer. It's not even that their offense
Speaker 1: couldn't keep up. Defensively, they could not stop Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: who has been this type of running back for a
Speaker 1: lot of this year. But we are going to look
Speaker 1: at his season and think of a game quicker than
Speaker 1: this one because of how he did it. He ripped
Speaker 1: off long runs, he scored in goal to ghost situations,
Speaker 1: he caught passes, he did everything that was asked of him.
Speaker 1: It's the next step in what I think is um
Speaker 1: a progression in his career. It's still very early, of course,
Speaker 1: but it started in the second half of last year
Speaker 1: where he started to build this positive momentum. He's carried
Speaker 1: it over into this year and he's developed himself more
Speaker 1: as a back. He's not just a downhill runner who
Speaker 1: who's capable of ripping off a long run. He's a
Speaker 1: guy you have to account for on every down, and
Speaker 1: the Bills simply did not do that defensively today. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen also had a rough day. A couple interst options
Speaker 1: that were ugly and they had no answer for them
Speaker 1: when they had the ball, and that's how you get
Speaker 1: a blowout. I mean to Dan's question, and this is
Speaker 1: more about the Bills and they're up and down struggles
Speaker 1: on offense. But wouldn't you say that Jonathan Taylor hop
Speaker 1: scotched Josh Allen in the m v P race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny because they opened the broadcast and CBS talking
Speaker 1: waxing poetic almost about how Josh Allen is a legitimate
Speaker 1: m VP candidate and he's the reason that the Bills
Speaker 1: are where they are right now. And frankly, I think
Speaker 1: the Bills have relied on him too much to this
Speaker 1: point and they couldn't rely on him. Not that he's
Speaker 1: been bad, but he has not been a top five quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's been a good quarterback who had a bad game,
Speaker 1: but at no point as he an m v P candidate.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz by the way throws for a hundred and
Speaker 1: six yards in this game. Uh, And that's all right,
Speaker 1: because when you have Taylor going off the way that
Speaker 1: he did and the defense playing as well as they did,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I thought a turning point in the
Speaker 1: game shook or maybe just kind of a well where
Speaker 1: are we at right now? Because remember the Bills were
Speaker 1: slumping on offense leading into Week ten and then beat
Speaker 1: up the Jets, who are a joke, and now they
Speaker 1: go up against good competition again, and we see what
Speaker 1: happens here. And there was a moment in the third
Speaker 1: quarter they're down multiple scores, they're facing a fourth and
Speaker 1: about about around six if I recall, and they opt
Speaker 1: for a long I think fifty five in that range
Speaker 1: yard field goal attempt overgoing for it, which predictably goes
Speaker 1: horribly awry, and then the Colts go right down the
Speaker 1: field and score and end the game. I mean that
Speaker 1: to me really spoke a lot about both teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first off, not a confidence in the Bills offense to
Speaker 1: be able to convert that fourth down, but also uh,
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass's second missfield goal the day, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, inclinent weather. So it wasn't the best situation
Speaker 1: for them, but you know how a game can go
Speaker 1: your way in a lot of in a number of
Speaker 1: different ways. Carson Wentz had a nice play, Whey scrambled.
Speaker 1: He looked like Vintine Carson Wentz before everything that he's
Speaker 1: dealt with in the last few years. It can also
Speaker 1: go awry for another team, and it was like that
Speaker 1: for the Bills with even in their kicking situation, where
Speaker 1: they just had no confidence in what they were doing
Speaker 1: and knew they were getting bullied on the field and
Speaker 1: just capt a terrible day for them. That's got to
Speaker 1: make their fans think because the two weeks ago they
Speaker 1: lose that game to Jacksonville, and it's like, what is
Speaker 1: going on with the Bills? And then they come back,
Speaker 1: like you said, dominate the Jets. I think they're back
Speaker 1: to where they were against Jacksonville. What is wrong with
Speaker 1: our team? Why can't we put up the points that
Speaker 1: we were capable of putting up and why can't we
Speaker 1: get a stop? So kind of a soul searching week
Speaker 1: I think ahead for the Bill. Plus inclement weather is
Speaker 1: something that's gonna be happening in Buffalo, So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you're not exactly they should be constructed, and I
Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. But them beating Kansas City so
Speaker 1: badly to get to four and one and now we're
Speaker 1: sitting here with them at six and four is one
Speaker 1: of the most surprising things to happen in this entire
Speaker 1: nflc I know there's a lot of like up as down,
Speaker 1: down as up in the NFL, but them hitting the
Speaker 1: skids this hard, uh, is shocking to me. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's quite as shocking that Marx Colts. You know,
Speaker 1: he spun the wheel and it decided which fan he
Speaker 1: was going to be for the rest of them, and
Speaker 1: he says he said he wasn't interested in him, that
Speaker 1: he they were boring, that he has to be convinced.
Speaker 1: And yet here they are. Whether they are a big
Speaker 1: time playoff team or not, they're gonna be in the
Speaker 1: center of the rest of this season. Not only are
Speaker 1: they six and five, but they got the Bucks next week,
Speaker 1: they got the Cult, the Patriots at home coming up,
Speaker 1: They're at Arizona. So there's just gonna be like a
Speaker 1: lot of big time games involving the Colts. Can I respond, Yes,
Speaker 1: my response, I funked up because, first of all, I
Speaker 1: already said on our network show a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago that I was wrong about this. The Colt the
Speaker 1: Cults are good. Okay, they're good. They've not They've scored
Speaker 1: under twenty five point points once since Week three, and
Speaker 1: it's it's what we thought about Indianapolis in the off
Speaker 1: season was not even this. This is superseding what we
Speaker 1: hoped maybe you could accomplish with Carson Wentz. We knew
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was good, we knew the defense was good.
Speaker 1: They're rounding into something completely different. And for everyone tweeting
Speaker 1: me about like some quote I made about the cults,
Speaker 1: like you know thirty five days ago, I've already told
Speaker 1: you I was wrong. It's when I a what if
Speaker 1: they you know they don't know that well in general,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now because this podcast is cannon.
Speaker 1: So if you say it on the TV show, that's good,
Speaker 1: but you have to come back. That's an extended universe.
Speaker 1: Good vibes too. I watched like the very long like
Speaker 1: hype speech and the celebrations afterwards, and I loved the
Speaker 1: moment when t Y Hilton gave his coach some love.
Speaker 1: He got us ready, he got us prepared to kick that.
Speaker 1: I gotta defend you. I got I gotta defend Mark
Speaker 1: real quick. They haven't beat a team that was of
Speaker 1: legitimate quality until today, as the team bigger until today,
Speaker 1: that's fine. They blew big leads against the Titans and
Speaker 1: they're good. But they're they're they're good, all right. So
Speaker 1: the Cults are surging, you know, getting into that division race.
Speaker 1: Not completely out of the picture either, but they still
Speaker 1: have a long hill of climb there. But they're certainly
Speaker 1: in the playoff. Makes on a dangerous team because Taylor
Speaker 1: is magnificent. Let's move on. They're gonna direct snap the
Speaker 1: ball to Jarvis Landry. Landry is gonna roll to the lap.
Speaker 1: He's looking, he's coming, and he's gonna run ten hard.
Speaker 1: He's drying. I get touchdown Jarvis Landry his first touchdown
Speaker 1: of the air. There you gown Jim down with the
Speaker 1: call w K r K, you gotta you gotta win there,
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry scored from sixteen yards out. Nick Chubb loudly
Speaker 1: announced his return with a hundred and thirty ground yards
Speaker 1: on a receiving score. The Browns edged past the windless
Speaker 1: lines third team ten at the Dog Pound Shookie. This
Speaker 1: by the final score and highlights. This didn't seem pretty,
Speaker 1: but the Browns stopped the bleeding after last week's unsightly
Speaker 1: setback in Foxbow. Yeah, I think that touchdown that we
Speaker 1: just played kind of captured exactly where the Brown's offense
Speaker 1: is right now, and they have to resort to putting
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry in the shotgun and then just let him
Speaker 1: freelance and and find an open field in the middle
Speaker 1: to rush for a touchdown. I mean, they don't have
Speaker 1: any rhythm offensively. But and I think today, frankly, uh,
Speaker 1: they probably lose to nine of the thirty two teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL with the way they played. There's two
Speaker 1: teams they've beat in this in this type of game.
Speaker 1: It's Detroit and it's Jacksonville. Um, they got a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do. I don't I don't really know
Speaker 1: where the answers are their Their offense is a mess.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield does not look good because of his injuries
Speaker 1: and whatever else. But they were lucky to have Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb backed. Why don't you carry a hundred thirty yards?
Speaker 1: He was able to pace the offense and then close
Speaker 1: the game out in a tight one. But you can't
Speaker 1: feel too confident other than the fact that you added
Speaker 1: another tay to the wind column and they all count
Speaker 1: the same. So you're six and five and you move
Speaker 1: forward from here. So you've got if you're the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: you've got at this stage the most critical juncture in
Speaker 1: your season. You've got the Ravens, a much needed by
Speaker 1: week to get some people healthy, and then the Ravens again.
Speaker 1: So three weeks from now, we're gonna know basically what
Speaker 1: this team is all about out I think they are
Speaker 1: impossible to figure out the fact that I sit on
Speaker 1: the fact that they are an average team, uh that
Speaker 1: has cannot get out of their own way. And yes,
Speaker 1: it's injuries for Baker Mayfield, but I see a lot
Speaker 1: of other things going on with him. I was watching
Speaker 1: this out of the corner of my eye, and honestly
Speaker 1: it was one of my more enjoyable sundays, not to
Speaker 1: fully ride the journey. It was well, I I will
Speaker 1: wait until they are vaguely enjoyable again. But Shook, I
Speaker 1: would this is I'm not trying to be talk radio person,
Speaker 1: but if this is the Baker we get from now
Speaker 1: till the end of the season, injuries are not, does
Speaker 1: it maybe operate as a blessing in disguise for the
Speaker 1: front office. They have this incredibly tough decision coming up
Speaker 1: where this extension talk makes no sense. At this point,
Speaker 1: It's not heard an extension right but to me, the
Speaker 1: decision they have no decision to make. They're not going
Speaker 1: to give him anything. Yeah, I'm just saying it is
Speaker 1: a question in Cleveland. No one's saying that they don't
Speaker 1: have no decision to make. That's not true. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: get to x from you know, friends who are Browns
Speaker 1: fans at Chuck Whitlock, who was one of our former
Speaker 1: researchers of the network. He's moved on since then. He's
Speaker 1: an avid Browns fan. He texts me every Sunday and
Speaker 1: he told me the same thing, which is basically, we
Speaker 1: gotta move on, Like this is this guy is not
Speaker 1: the guy. But the decision you mean, get rid of
Speaker 1: him this offseason because he's under contract for a very
Speaker 1: cheap number next year. No, but it's not that no
Speaker 1: one's talked about what to do with Baker Mayfield long
Speaker 1: term because they have the fifth year. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: but like, it's not a great situation for Baker Mayfield either.
Speaker 1: It's not a great look optics wise to just he
Speaker 1: didn't talk to the media. Mary Kay Cabot said nothing
Speaker 1: in particular happened to cause that he was booed aggressively,
Speaker 1: So maybe he was in his feelings. Who knows. You
Speaker 1: don't want to guess why he didn't talk to the media,
Speaker 1: but he kind of story apparently, like kind of walked
Speaker 1: off the field, didn't celebrate, didn't shake any hands. It
Speaker 1: sounds like if you kind of remissing the lines, if
Speaker 1: you're tracking the team, he's you know, dreadfully beat up.
Speaker 1: He has all different sorts of injuries to his knee,
Speaker 1: his left shoulder, his foot, and he's getting booed in
Speaker 1: his own building, and he's there's probably a lot of frustration.
Speaker 1: Now we'll see if it was simply out of frustration
Speaker 1: that even talk us. That's not the right way to
Speaker 1: play it either, because you just invite the firestorm of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone to talk about your talking heads, debating
Speaker 1: your future. It just adds more fuel to the fire.
Speaker 1: That said, I think it's notable what I'm hearing from
Speaker 1: both Shook and Mark for the first time, like Browns
Speaker 1: fans starting to grapple with the idea that maybe Mayfield
Speaker 1: isn't the guy going forward, because I haven't really heard
Speaker 1: that from Browns fans until this point. So it feels
Speaker 1: like things are starting to shift a little. That's maybe
Speaker 1: more what I mean to just that, like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: can figure this out, but like there's a polar shift
Speaker 1: for me in terms of the Mayfield experience over the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and just one offseason with a
Speaker 1: bunch of like glowing reports about hey, they're back in sinks,
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, They've got they've got questions. My
Speaker 1: thing with like talking about the future is now is
Speaker 1: the team that they're trying to win a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with right now? That's they gotta be good luck with
Speaker 1: this team. Right there's there's six and five, I know,
Speaker 1: but there's six games left of the season. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to go right and and even even when you're
Speaker 1: thinking about next year, like are what they really there's
Speaker 1: no way he's getting extension this offseason. Is there any
Speaker 1: chance that they would move off of him this year?
Speaker 1: Maybe because they have a piece that you could get
Speaker 1: involved in of Russell Wilson, Yeah, because they do get
Speaker 1: to buy There's still a lot of football. The a
Speaker 1: FC is wide open. We've seen the Browns in their
Speaker 1: top gear, even when they're not consistent, they were really
Speaker 1: impressive when they're playing well. But right now there's a
Speaker 1: lot of doubt around the organization, and I see how
Speaker 1: it's starting to you know, the quarterback situation is back
Speaker 1: under the microscope again. Also, my Tim Boyle could win
Speaker 1: a game on Thanksgiving, prediction is not looking good. With
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards and two to two interceptions, you only
Speaker 1: win by three. When Tim Boyle at seventy seven yards
Speaker 1: and two interceptions, the Chicago's plane goes the direction of
Speaker 1: like Amelia Earhart's plane. That's that's your Tim Boil victory. Greg, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, does anyone start I know it's a very
Speaker 1: unpopular take. Is anyone gonna start coming to my side
Speaker 1: and take Thanksgiving away from the lines for just a
Speaker 1: little bit, Maybe them like a teenager will give you
Speaker 1: the keys back to the civic But you just got
Speaker 1: a chill better. You're not getting the keys back either. Alright,
Speaker 1: one more game before we say goodbye to Shook. Let's
Speaker 1: head to the desert. Third down and goal from the
Speaker 1: sick shotgun, snap burrow from the pockets to the left
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, chase touchdown. Oh, it was
Speaker 1: the crossroads games on the NFL schedule. The Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: they were heading down, the Raiders, they were heading down.
Speaker 1: Somebody there was a fork in the road. The cross
Speaker 1: roads were there, and only one team could take the
Speaker 1: correct path, and it was Cincinnati Bengs. The killer combination
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow and Jim R. Chase strike again. The
Speaker 1: pair connected for the clinching touchdown in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It was win over the fading Raiders at Allegian Stadium.
Speaker 1: Allegiant Legion. I don't even know what that word needs.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon added two touchdowns as well, and what's been
Speaker 1: an excellent season for the half back shook. Uh. This
Speaker 1: is a much needed win for Cincinnati that that puts
Speaker 1: them on the right path. And like I said, crossroads,
Speaker 1: the Raiders just turned down a dark road. Yeah, huge
Speaker 1: cross roads for the Bengals coming off that blowout loss
Speaker 1: to the Browns, going to the bye week, and they
Speaker 1: spent that bye week very productively, evidently based on how
Speaker 1: they played on Sunday. I mean, their defense was stellar
Speaker 1: for the majority of the game. They significant yeah, one
Speaker 1: of them, and then we give up one significant touchdown
Speaker 1: drive early in the fourth quarter, and then they answered.
Speaker 1: They responded with a long drive to put the game away,
Speaker 1: cap by a touchdown by Joe Mixon. It was actually
Speaker 1: it was touched on passenger mar Chase. It was a
Speaker 1: it was a complete performance. I think, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the Bengals team that was at the top
Speaker 1: the a f C in October. This is this is
Speaker 1: how they played today. And and then on the Raiders side,
Speaker 1: it's hey, offense, wake up before the fourth quarter. Your
Speaker 1: defense is playing its tails off to keep you in
Speaker 1: the game, and you're not holding up your end of
Speaker 1: the bargain. And and we've seen this too often from
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I think, which is, you know, one game
Speaker 1: they can come out and light it up. They lit
Speaker 1: it up very early in the season, but they haven't
Speaker 1: played complimentary football for the entire season. And that's ultimately
Speaker 1: what sank them today. And you have to wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole the bisaccia, the boost from from going to
Speaker 1: interim head coach that's long gone now, and you just
Speaker 1: got the bump. That's what. I don't know if bump
Speaker 1: was positive or negative connotation, but I'll show you a bump. Bump.
Speaker 1: They took a few bumps and not the good time.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, Yeah, they watch this game too, shook and
Speaker 1: uh Vegas was just so flat offensively in this like
Speaker 1: a nice st smack once in a while, I know,
Speaker 1: but we don't talk about that careful with that, uh.
Speaker 1: And I know they got if you look at the
Speaker 1: box car they got Darren Waller back involved the loss
Speaker 1: of Henry Ruggs. From a pure perspective, it was a
Speaker 1: real tough blow. It just feels like this offense needs
Speaker 1: to be opened up more. Derek Carr if you look,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll his ranking of the QB Index
Speaker 1: has started to go south with this slump as well.
Speaker 1: They're just not as dynamic as they need to be.
Speaker 1: And they weren't able to hang with a Bengals team
Speaker 1: that had its own offensive problems early in this game.
Speaker 1: But Las Vegas just never was able to turn it on.
Speaker 1: That's three straight losses. By the way, how about Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow now, please, I mean Joe Burrows hundred fifty yards?
Speaker 1: They typically lose this game, right in a regular setting,
Speaker 1: they typically and they end up winning by what was it,
Speaker 1: nineteen points too, Not like that's a ton, but that's
Speaker 1: that's wild. And yet the key play of the game
Speaker 1: to me was that six yard throw to Chase with
Speaker 1: about five minutes left to you know, put them up
Speaker 1: nine and that's a pretty throw on third down. There
Speaker 1: is something to Joe Burrow like in big moments. I
Speaker 1: know he's had some fourth quarter interceptions, but that was
Speaker 1: a big moment and he got it done. And how
Speaker 1: about the Eli Appsle Apple Redemption Tour right now? Big
Speaker 1: time interception in a key spot it was part of
Speaker 1: There was a sequence here where the Raiders haven't straight
Speaker 1: uh third down fails. That's hard to do. Fourteen straight
Speaker 1: third down failures. Uh. And the Bengals are now one
Speaker 1: win away from topping their over under. If if they
Speaker 1: won next week they had the Steelers, if you go
Speaker 1: sweep the Steelers, they are in fantastic position the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and you've you've maybe wiped away some of the questions
Speaker 1: about who are they at the basic level after a
Speaker 1: very wayward couple of weeks. Yeah, because at that point
Speaker 1: you're let's see two thirds of the way through your
Speaker 1: divisional schedule with a date with the Ravens a date
Speaker 1: with the Browns left. I mean, you're in You're in
Speaker 1: a great spot in a division that's very winnable. A
Speaker 1: team that many of us expected to finish last in
Speaker 1: the division is positioned right now to be in it
Speaker 1: until the end. If they keep and if they play
Speaker 1: like this, they gotta be a little bit better offensively.
Speaker 1: But if they can get this type of play from
Speaker 1: their defense, I mean, they're gonna be a tough out
Speaker 1: no matter who they played for the remainder of the season.
Speaker 1: And very interesting to watch they went. At one point
Speaker 1: they lost remember fifteen straight road games. They are four
Speaker 1: and two on the road. Five of their last seven
Speaker 1: games are at home. Such a such an important win
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati because it did feel like the storm clouds
Speaker 1: were gathering. That was an example of a perfect time
Speaker 1: for a bye and they were able to reset things.
Speaker 1: They got this win and now they have a big
Speaker 1: match up against Pittsburgh next week. But now you can
Speaker 1: go into that with confidence. And if you're the Raiders,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, they're doing the same thing they did
Speaker 1: last year and the year before now they didn't. That's different.
Speaker 1: This year is different. They collapsed in November this year
Speaker 1: last year, and the year before it was December, so there,
Speaker 1: it's not the same season. Well, they're overachieving on a
Speaker 1: weird in a weird way, this right there ahead of
Speaker 1: the curve in a lot of ways. That's organizationally what
Speaker 1: you want to be Shookie. Uh, you look great, Uh
Speaker 1: you talk great, and we appreciate having me on the
Speaker 1: show every week. I'm I'm overwhelmed. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say. Thanks. There he goes the heart
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. They shook. All right, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then move on. All right, goodbye to Nick Shook
Speaker 1: and let us now head to Chicago and give us
Speaker 1: the Freeman lops to don Alright, Freeman and the raven
Speaker 1: have taken the lead. What two seconds left in Chicago? Wow? Great?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the background audio there,
Speaker 1: it was like great work by the guy with the
Speaker 1: guy seemed like a crowd from like the mid nineteen thirties.
Speaker 1: They Jerry Sandusky with the called w b a L
Speaker 1: subbing for an ill Lamar Jackson. Tyler Huntley led a
Speaker 1: winning drive cap I had Davanta Freeman three yard run
Speaker 1: with twenty two seconds to play. It allowed the Ravens
Speaker 1: to escape with a six win over DA Bears. Mark
Speaker 1: The Ravens danced with the devil in this one to
Speaker 1: tell the tale means they almost lost to a crappy team,
Speaker 1: but then they didn't. Yeah, and like a sliver of
Speaker 1: reality would have made this the game where we're talking
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton coming in and replacing a Justin Fields
Speaker 1: who has left the game with banged up ribs, and
Speaker 1: you know, with under two minutes to go, it's fourth
Speaker 1: and six for the Bears. Okay, Jason Peters had a
Speaker 1: false start, making it fourth and eleven, and this was
Speaker 1: Chicago's final shot against Baltimore and Andy Dalton zips a
Speaker 1: rope to Marcus for a touchdown. They're up thirteen nine
Speaker 1: and then it's Tyler Huntley and one forty one minute
Speaker 1: left for the Ravens and they were sitting um at
Speaker 1: the Chicago and Tyler Huntley played. They they had a
Speaker 1: good plan for him. Mark Andrews was an all star
Speaker 1: in this game. He was a security blanket for Huntley,
Speaker 1: who ran a couple of times, made a couple of passes.
Speaker 1: But what happened here was they did we can't stick
Speaker 1: to our plan. We have to let Huntley throw the ball,
Speaker 1: and he showed that he could a twenty one yard
Speaker 1: dart to Devon Duvernet and then on third and twelve
Speaker 1: a thirty yard or to Sammy Watkins to the Chicago
Speaker 1: three yard line. I mean Chicago slept after the Sandy
Speaker 1: Dalton touchdown. They went to sleep on defense, totally allowed
Speaker 1: Baltimore to march down the field. Then bang that DeVonta
Speaker 1: Freeman touchdown. They're up sixteen thirteen, lights out. And I
Speaker 1: want to point out one other thing real quick. In
Speaker 1: this game, there was an absolute meltdown for Matt Nagy. Okay,
Speaker 1: this was early in the game where it was fourth
Speaker 1: and one and it was like seven to six, and
Speaker 1: they appeared to be going actually going out and punting
Speaker 1: the ball when everyone else in the league is going
Speaker 1: for it, and the crowd in Chicago we heard them
Speaker 1: on that replay, was going absolutely nuts. I am convinced
Speaker 1: that Matt Nagy was essentially At one point he seemed
Speaker 1: to be shouting and screaming and hollering at a sound
Speaker 1: man who was controlling his headset or something. I don't
Speaker 1: know what was going on there. But then two minutes later,
Speaker 1: there's suddenly going for it and there's fire Nagy chance
Speaker 1: in the stands. I mean, he was convinced by the
Speaker 1: booing crowd to change his decision. I think is this
Speaker 1: when we I was doing a sky yes, exactly, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Live with Neo Reynolds and I was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about I think the Eagles Saints game,
Speaker 1: and Mark is five feet away from me just going Naggy.
Speaker 1: What's Naggy doing? He's going crazy over here? And I
Speaker 1: had I had to like call it out because I
Speaker 1: didn't know if they could hear. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what what is happening? Like New York? Like I suddenly
Speaker 1: was from New York. I mean it wiped away. I
Speaker 1: think what's lost is, like we talked about the way
Speaker 1: it didn't work. They ran a wildcat. They put David
Speaker 1: Montgomery in the backfield and a wildcat. And what Montgomery
Speaker 1: could have he if you watched the replay, he kind
Speaker 1: of ran in the wrong direction. He could have gone
Speaker 1: left and got in the yardage. But they just had
Speaker 1: a bad plan for it. They just seemed so discombobulated
Speaker 1: at times. The thing that this game did is it
Speaker 1: wiped out a three and a half sack performance by
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. Rog Kuwan Smith was all over the place.
Speaker 1: Just we came so close to having a very different
Speaker 1: narrative to this story. Talking about this right now, Well,
Speaker 1: because it was a wild one the Ravens. The Ravens
Speaker 1: stole it away. At the Ravens winning these games, well,
Speaker 1: it shows who the Ravens are. And I thought that
Speaker 1: on the flip side, John Harball was nothing but utter
Speaker 1: calm through the entire performance. And you're going in there
Speaker 1: with non Lamar Jackson and you have no business winning
Speaker 1: this thing. And sorry, but it was Greg Roman showing
Speaker 1: you I can take any quarterback and build an offense
Speaker 1: around him. The Bears were in total chaos scoring. I mean,
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do with that pal excite?
Speaker 1: I mean Andy Dalton brought them life when he came
Speaker 1: in justin fields and thrown for seventy nine yards and
Speaker 1: a half plus. It was not a good performance by him.
Speaker 1: Dalton brought life. Then they went to sleep. The last
Speaker 1: thing happens and they let the Ravens right back in
Speaker 1: the only touchdown drive of the day, which is for
Speaker 1: the Ravens, which is crazy. So I'll remember a couple
Speaker 1: of things from this game, One like, why is wing
Speaker 1: Martindale blitzing there? All of Baltimore is really getting sick
Speaker 1: of Don Martindale this year for doing that, because you've
Speaker 1: given of all these big time and he blitzes Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton on four you know, four than game. Essentially they
Speaker 1: get the touch on. But I will remember, I really will,
Speaker 1: I think forever this moment, which was the second that
Speaker 1: Goodwin catches it and goes into the end zone for
Speaker 1: the Bears to take a lead. And at this point
Speaker 1: the Ravens have not scored a touchdown all game. Um
Speaker 1: Our coworker Danny Ryder in the newsroom within a half
Speaker 1: a second said, oh, they're gonna lose. He's a Bears fan.
Speaker 1: He didn't even for one second. He didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 1: He just said, they're definitely they're gonna lose. And he
Speaker 1: was right. So you wanted Bears and lines on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: you got it. Bears have lost five straight and uh,
Speaker 1: they don't believe at this time the time we're taping
Speaker 1: this anyway, that Justin Fields broke his ribs. But it's
Speaker 1: a short turnaround to play on Turkey Day, so we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. And by the way, Marky, those Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens who may or may not have Lamar Jackson, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see how he's feeling. Uh Hardbos said that the
Speaker 1: illness is not COVID nineteen or the flu. They hoped
Speaker 1: he was gonna feel better on Sunday morning, and Study
Speaker 1: felt worse. So we'll see what's going on with Lamar
Speaker 1: and we hope he's okay. But the Ravens and Brown's
Speaker 1: clash on Sunday Night football in Week twelve could be
Speaker 1: mad cow disease were It's just an option. We're not
Speaker 1: saying that's what it is if you look at if
Speaker 1: you look at this raven season, though, they could be
Speaker 1: like three and ten. They stole that Chiefs game, they
Speaker 1: stole that Lions game, they stole that Vikings game, and
Speaker 1: they stole this game like those are I think they're stealing.
Speaker 1: What's there? So though, no, I know, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's a great quarterback, a great coach, and a great kicker.
Speaker 1: But they didn't even the quarterback was Tyler Huntley and
Speaker 1: there's no it's But by the way, hey, Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that like Bears general manager Ryan Pace
Speaker 1: took you out like a five hundred dollar dinner, mentioning
Speaker 1: like with flowery language, like three hundred times how well
Speaker 1: built the team is thanks to Ryan Pace. I mean,
Speaker 1: name dropped in twenty times. You know what we gotta
Speaker 1: do any Sunday night football every week. That annoyed energy
Speaker 1: is good. Good for you. Let's moved to Philly. Hurts
Speaker 1: gives it offense side, I know, and he's running forward
Speaker 1: out a fight. He's at the ten, he's at the
Speaker 1: five for the touch down. Wan a fight, wanna fight fight?
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to see all the singles win, Oh, Meryl Reese,
Speaker 1: the call? W I p Jalen Hurts. I think he's
Speaker 1: sticking around. He ran for three touchdowns. Darius slay at
Speaker 1: a pick six. Eagles roll over Greggy Saints forty to nine.
Speaker 1: That's two wins in a row for the first time
Speaker 1: for the Eagles and also Nick SIRIANTI, that's what the
Speaker 1: w looks like at the link. First win at home
Speaker 1: in five tries, Greggy, I know you're feeling this Eagles team.
Speaker 1: They're suddenly quite frisky. They are, and this is one
Speaker 1: where it was like best on best. I know there
Speaker 1: was a lot of Saints injuries and they lost that
Speaker 1: that's a factor. But the Saints came into this with
Speaker 1: the number one rush defense dv o A in the league.
Speaker 1: The Eagles came in just having rolled a bunch of
Speaker 1: these Patsy's in terms of run defenses, and I thought
Speaker 1: the Saints were gonna stand up and and be counted for.
Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts just makes this team go. Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: return and had a nice day ninety four yards to
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, kept getting it done ten for sixty three.
Speaker 1: But Hurts on the ground is what opened it up.
Speaker 1: They ended up with two forty two. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: one of those where you got a big lead and
Speaker 1: then you just rack up yards. They had one fifty
Speaker 1: two in the first half. The Saints Actually, yeah, it
Speaker 1: kind of made a fourth quarter come back to make
Speaker 1: this thing interesting. It was all about that running game
Speaker 1: and those big uglies up front, and they showed their
Speaker 1: just like the baddest team going right now. Into this game,
Speaker 1: the Saints were averaging less than seventy three yards allowed
Speaker 1: on the ground. So to put to forty two on
Speaker 1: a very good Saints defense or run defense, I should
Speaker 1: say at the very least. And the Eagles of now
Speaker 1: sur passed one seventy five rushing and four straight games,
Speaker 1: including two plus and three wins over that spin. This
Speaker 1: is have an identity they're nasty upfront, and yeah, remember when,
Speaker 1: like the Ravens they could because it shows like if
Speaker 1: you're gonna if you want to be a good coaching staff,
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to completely recreate yourself midstream
Speaker 1: at times. And it reminds me of when the Ravens
Speaker 1: went from Flacco to Lamar Jackson and they embraced the
Speaker 1: concept of just saying we were that will never be
Speaker 1: that ever again because we have Lamar Jackson, We're gonna
Speaker 1: zig when the entire league zags and the Eagles. You know,
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni was a pretty easy target for a lot
Speaker 1: of us who just watch his press conferences left and right,
Speaker 1: and then you just started to hear that the players
Speaker 1: were like, actually, we dig this guy. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what that meant. Maybe it's just like you're in public,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. But he does seem to have
Speaker 1: shown us he has a plan for Jalen Hurts, he
Speaker 1: has a plan for this offense, the way they're running
Speaker 1: the ball. I thought, you're right, Greig, this was the
Speaker 1: acid test today. Maybe it all floats away and instead
Speaker 1: they dropped a massive hammer. But there in the mix,
Speaker 1: they're they're five and six, they're they're in the mix now.
Speaker 1: It should be said the Saints were without their three
Speaker 1: best offense four if you want to count Jamis. There
Speaker 1: two tackles who have both been to multiple Pro Bowls
Speaker 1: were out, which was a little bit of a surprise. UH.
Speaker 1: And that helped Philly's defense show a transformation where they
Speaker 1: were really aggressive. They again, they're you're listening to the
Speaker 1: talk radio collars and it's working. Just why don't they
Speaker 1: run the ball? Why don't they be more aggressive on defense?
Speaker 1: They blitzed. Uh, they were very creative and Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: UH was terrible in this first half of this game.
Speaker 1: He's terrible, Mike. He was rough. The final box scorers misleading,
Speaker 1: They kept trying. They I get it. It was it
Speaker 1: was it was six or eight teen for sixty yards
Speaker 1: in a in a brutal pick six. Slay got his
Speaker 1: third touchdown in four games. Uh. And he just didn't
Speaker 1: give them a chance in the first half. But they're
Speaker 1: starting guys i've never heard of on the offensive line
Speaker 1: landing young and I don't know good prospect know I
Speaker 1: know about it's not good. I mean, you take Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara out of the lineup. You know, the lineman obviously
Speaker 1: a huge deal. The quarterback, even though you know Winston
Speaker 1: is who Winston is still an upgrade over Trevor Simmons.
Speaker 1: But you take Kamara out. This is a very ordinary
Speaker 1: team at that point. And they get healthier, I don't
Speaker 1: I think they're still gonna be in this They gotta
Speaker 1: get health in. This version of the Saints is just
Speaker 1: not dynamic. And now they've lost three straight games since
Speaker 1: the Winston a c L injury. They got a tough
Speaker 1: schedule ahead we talked about on Thursday, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say one thing on the Eagles. Half a
Speaker 1: game out by the way of the last spot right there,
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni on his quarterback Jalen is a special player
Speaker 1: who forces defenses to play different. You look at their stats,
Speaker 1: but you also want to do what you do well.
Speaker 1: They I think they're starting to feel in that building
Speaker 1: that they have found a guy here that they could
Speaker 1: build an offense around. Here. Here's what's so huge about that,
Speaker 1: because assuming Wentz plays like another game, which you will,
Speaker 1: it's like they have three first round picks and instead
Speaker 1: of having to go do the thing where we don't
Speaker 1: like our quarterback. We have to go shop for someone else.
Speaker 1: You now have three first round picks to make the
Speaker 1: Eagles about so much by so many derivations better than
Speaker 1: they are right now and surround. Jalen hurts if he
Speaker 1: continues to be the guy. All right, let us head
Speaker 1: to Seattle next, where the Seahawks desperately needed to win
Speaker 1: a game. But he didn't realize that Colt McCoy would
Speaker 1: be playing second and goal on the two shotguns. Snap
Speaker 1: to McCoy, balls loose on the ground, he picks it up,
Speaker 1: throws over the middle. Hey, it's caught for a touchdown
Speaker 1: by Urds. Oh my, Colt McCoy picking up a loose
Speaker 1: ball on the turf and throwing a pass over the
Speaker 1: middle for a big touchdown. Here late in the first half,
Speaker 1: Culton Lacoy to God, Calton Sessler's namesake delivered another trenchant performance.
Speaker 1: The second of three weeks is Kyler Murray's injury replacement
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals over the I know everybody's been waiting
Speaker 1: for it. I've been getting a tweets. I've been waiting
Speaker 1: to break it out. But it's that time of year.
Speaker 1: Over the moribund Seattle Seahawks at loumin Field McCoy three
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns. Mark, I know you're proud of you. Boy.
Speaker 1: This lifted my spirits because, like, here's the thing, this
Speaker 1: would have been a great opportunity for the Cardinals to
Speaker 1: have an excuse over the last three weeks to go
Speaker 1: into the tank to some degree and say we'll get
Speaker 1: ourselves out of it. But we didn't have Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: we don't have DeAndre Hopkins. And call McCoy, you asked
Speaker 1: him to come in and play three starts. One of
Speaker 1: them was a mess, but two of them have been
Speaker 1: nothing short of heroic. And today he just showed you
Speaker 1: that when you have that backup quarterback, not the most
Speaker 1: athletic guy on the planet, not you know, they used
Speaker 1: to call him nood alarm. Well, you know what, it
Speaker 1: was a little bit better than that. Today he just
Speaker 1: showed command of the offense. And there is what I
Speaker 1: thought the tone senter right out of the gate, a
Speaker 1: six team play, sixty eight yard nine minut a touchdown drive,
Speaker 1: the longest drive of their season in terms of plays
Speaker 1: and time off the clock. And then he answers down
Speaker 1: the road with another thirteen play ninety two yards six
Speaker 1: minute touchdown drive. Zach Ertz was all over the place
Speaker 1: for him, and it's it really became Cult McCoy battling
Speaker 1: Cardinals kicker Matt Prator, who I don't know what Matt
Speaker 1: Prator did pregame, but man, he was all over the place.
Speaker 1: He's a good kicker in general. Miss, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he did not seem to be um in
Speaker 1: the right headspace. He had a he had a missed
Speaker 1: p a t he had this is on the road.
Speaker 1: He had a killer miss field goal. He did hit
Speaker 1: one a fifty plus at one point, but then missed
Speaker 1: another field goal. So he cost them seven points in
Speaker 1: a game where the Seahawks were climbing back into this thing,
Speaker 1: and it forced Colt McCoy up sixteen to thirteen to
Speaker 1: take them on another drive. He hits zach Ertz on
Speaker 1: a twenty yard or and then at one point he
Speaker 1: rumbled Cult McCoy for an eleven yard chain moving first
Speaker 1: down that I thought it was a bigger scramble than
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's had all year. I mean, Colin are is,
Speaker 1: you know, infinitely more of the athlete. It's not a
Speaker 1: shot fired more than just Colt McCoy did everything you
Speaker 1: could have asked it forty minutes of time of possession,
Speaker 1: and it it revealed basically the fact that Seattle at
Speaker 1: this point, not only do I feel good about having
Speaker 1: forked them a month ago, they are a low wattage board.
Speaker 1: They look totally out of ideas, and I think Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll was quite annoyed after it. Let's hear from Pete,
Speaker 1: who at one point left his presser only to return.
Speaker 1: He can't make sense of, Wow, I'm just not any
Speaker 1: good at this. You know, I'm not prepared for this.
Speaker 1: This is not this. I'm I'm struggling to do a
Speaker 1: good job of you know, coaching when you when when
Speaker 1: you're getting your butt kicked in the weekend and weekend,
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just it's new territory. So um,
Speaker 1: and I'm competing is in every way I can think of,
Speaker 1: But um, I'm just unfamiliar with that. Sounds like to
Speaker 1: me like a coach who now is starting to see
Speaker 1: his mortality, at least in Seattle, like he knows now,
Speaker 1: not only is my team on the ropes at three
Speaker 1: and seven, with a very strong chance of missing the
Speaker 1: playoffs for just the second time in a decade. He
Speaker 1: also knows he's in trouble now because the wheels are
Speaker 1: coming off and there's uncertainty with the superstar quarterback and
Speaker 1: the relationship between the team and the quarterback is not right.
Speaker 1: I think Carl senses he's in danger at the same time,
Speaker 1: just the general frustration of a season where he can't
Speaker 1: get this team motivated to play well. You've lost the
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy two straight years. Remember he was with the
Speaker 1: Giants last year, went in there, uh dk Metcalf gets
Speaker 1: thirty one yards on eight targets. Russell Wilson's led them
Speaker 1: to thirteen points total in two weeks, ends up with
Speaker 1: two d and seven yards no touchdowns. It's crazy, and
Speaker 1: I think it's just realizing how outclassed you are right
Speaker 1: now in this division to to to get bodied by
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Colt McCoy and there's no new Copkins. Look,
Speaker 1: a lot of teams have gotten bodied by the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks team, who's in primetime two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row. By the way, after this, let's flex him
Speaker 1: out a Sunday night in a couple of weeks. But
Speaker 1: they're against Washington, Monday night at a week like everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be watching this. Uh, and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: long way to climb out of. But you gotta give
Speaker 1: the Cardinals a lot of the credit. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're going to number one in the Power right they are.
Speaker 1: They bailed me out with this one. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what fans. Joseph, who you know flamed out as head coach,
Speaker 1: has been awesome as defensive coordinator. I cannot remember a
Speaker 1: game in the Pete Carroll Russell Wilson era where that
Speaker 1: home Seattle stadium was so lustrous with booze. I mean
Speaker 1: it was as rough as it gets. And uh, that
Speaker 1: was not with Seattle expect the Cardinals. Just to point
Speaker 1: out how impressive they've been. They are plus one oh
Speaker 1: weight in terms of point differential on the road alone.
Speaker 1: And I did a little scribbling right here during the show.
Speaker 1: The combined record of the teams they've played eighteen when
Speaker 1: they're not playing the card So they've destroyed, destroyed good teams,
Speaker 1: not just the Seahawks. Uh. And after the game, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: and if you're wondering how he's feeling, how the finger
Speaker 1: is the ball's coming out of my hand. Just fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make any excuses. I'm not an excuse
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Well, well we'll see. The Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble. The Cardinals now get
Speaker 1: a bye week. On top of this, the fact that
Speaker 1: they come out of these three games with two WS
Speaker 1: against the Vision rivals. Now they get a week off,
Speaker 1: and hopefully for Arizona when they return uh in week
Speaker 1: their team they will have Kyler and new Coopkins, and
Speaker 1: there they'll be that much more dangerous. But Colt McCoy,
Speaker 1: there was magic work, magic in the air. I don't
Speaker 1: know what else you can ask a backup quarterback to do.
Speaker 1: Then what he's done there is matt to it. I
Speaker 1: was theorizing downstairs that he added two years to his
Speaker 1: career in week nine, and then he lost a year
Speaker 1: to his career in week ten. But now he added
Speaker 1: two more here. So he's up three years now of
Speaker 1: making money through just through you know, three games to play.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna say, like, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to work three days this year, I'll be good
Speaker 1: on two of them and suck on one. I like that.
Speaker 1: We gotta get Colt McCoy on the show. We gotta
Speaker 1: tell him about Colt Sassler. We gotta and maybe it's
Speaker 1: an offseason show. I don't know if it's there. Seems
Speaker 1: like we could probably get That's what I'm saying. Then
Speaker 1: it puts me back to the fanboy scenario where like
Speaker 1: I'm frozen. I don't know what the question. That's like
Speaker 1: Jimmy found like I think we could get Rob Schneider.
Speaker 1: Not sure I think we can. Anyway, let's take a
Speaker 1: break in. We'll be right back. Shotgun one back bunch formation. Right,
Speaker 1: here's the snap Texans sending people. Tammi Hill hit us,
Speaker 1: he throws, It's picked up by King and out of
Speaker 1: bounce inside that's one a yard line. The huge takeaway
Speaker 1: for the Texaeds just stop Tennessee with three on the fourth.
Speaker 1: You may not recognize that. That the sound of that voice,
Speaker 1: but that was Mark Vandermere with K I L T
Speaker 1: with the call go home, minute bell you're drug Entering Sunday.
Speaker 1: The Texans were the coldest team in the league. They
Speaker 1: were the hottest, So of course, the Texans snapped the
Speaker 1: NFL's longest active losing streak by beating the Titans and
Speaker 1: the longest the league's longest winning streak on a miserable
Speaker 1: day in Houston, Mark How, and we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: a great digger. He's gotta answer to this, Well, Daddy
Speaker 1: did not have primary eyes on this game. But if
Speaker 1: you asked me how, I'd say that they were depleted
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They're out of weapons. And we've watched
Speaker 1: this often, Speed challenged the scenario. You want to be
Speaker 1: your daddy? I am that is I am. I gotta
Speaker 1: stop calling ourselves daddy. I think generally makes uncomfortable. No,
Speaker 1: I did it. I forget what scenario I did. And
Speaker 1: I did it as well at some point. And it's
Speaker 1: just like it's it's a virus that's spreading. It is
Speaker 1: a virus that's spreading Delta. It's like the Delta. It's
Speaker 1: maybe not the worst virus amongst anyway. All right, and
Speaker 1: then wait, I don't need to hear from hear from
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, Grave Digger, what the hell happened? I know
Speaker 1: you're you're missing Derrick Henry. I know you're a j Brown.
Speaker 1: He gets hurt. Is it just an issue where we
Speaker 1: we've reached the level for Ryan Tittle who had four
Speaker 1: picks where he just doesn't have anybody to throw too
Speaker 1: and make plays with. And and now it's starting to
Speaker 1: show for real. Honestly, I would love to say that
Speaker 1: that is the reason the Titans offense was so bad,
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't. I mean, Nick west fr kinan
Speaker 1: had over a hundred receiving yards. Whoever the heck he
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a second year guy, I'm drafted out
Speaker 1: of Indiana. But um, the Titans outgained the Texans four
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yards two hundred nine, but they turned the
Speaker 1: ball over five times, twice inside the opposing teams six
Speaker 1: yard line. Once once was a pick that was actually
Speaker 1: the Titans were in the red zone and Houston returned
Speaker 1: it all the way to the six yard line. So
Speaker 1: that's a huge swing. And then in the second half,
Speaker 1: the Titans had like three chances. The defense got six
Speaker 1: straight three announced to close the game. One of them
Speaker 1: was like four and out technically, so not technically, but
Speaker 1: the offense Tannehill like every time the offense started driving
Speaker 1: Tannehill through an interception, that was like, what was that throw?
Speaker 1: And maybe it was young receivers like des fitz Patrick
Speaker 1: who was a rookie who was cut after training camp,
Speaker 1: who has like been on the practice squad all season
Speaker 1: and finally got elevated last week. He was like yelling
Speaker 1: at Tannehill, was yelling at Des fitz Patrick before plays
Speaker 1: like Dees, you got it, you got it, you got it,
Speaker 1: like you can hear it through the broadcast, and then
Speaker 1: like he threw a pick on that place. So maybe
Speaker 1: Doz did not get whatever change it was, or I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's just it was a fluke.
Speaker 1: I mean you they honestly, they've been luck. They've won
Speaker 1: a couple of games like this, they didn't look like
Speaker 1: the better team, so it's almost like they were overdue
Speaker 1: to get some bad luck. But Marcus Johnson, who was
Speaker 1: so good last week, got hurt, barely played, who knows
Speaker 1: if he'll be available for next week. And then A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown was in and out and I don't think he
Speaker 1: finished the game either. He's probably gonna miss a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, Like they'll probably old amount through the by
Speaker 1: which is two weeks away. There's like Twitter doctors who
Speaker 1: are trying to diagnose the injury, but obviously you can't
Speaker 1: want to trust them. What about the Twinkle Toes line
Speaker 1: or monsters. You know, there's a lot of dissent on
Speaker 1: Twitter about the name. And I think we went from
Speaker 1: a unified front too, not unified in it, the team
Speaker 1: felt the effects of it. I like that theory. And
Speaker 1: how about if you would have told me the Texans
Speaker 1: would have played the Titans the Titans today and Tyrod like,
Speaker 1: oh oh the Texans one oh, Tyrod was had a
Speaker 1: big game and you know he know, he had average
Speaker 1: four and a half yards per tempt So it's not
Speaker 1: like they were you know, run Ranford did run for
Speaker 1: two turnovers. Just gonna blow up any plans who failed
Speaker 1: fourth down conversions deep in Houston territory. So that's like
Speaker 1: seven turnovers. How about this, though, the Texans have forced
Speaker 1: ten turnovers in the last two games. That's that's outrageous.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be more than some teams have forced all year.
Speaker 1: That is more than the Steelers, the forty niners. See
Speaker 1: how Jets ravens Jaguars at Forest all year. That's insane.
Speaker 1: The Cully carry over the Culli They were talking about
Speaker 1: it on the broadcast. How Romeo Cornell got this defense
Speaker 1: locked in over the bye week or something like years old,
Speaker 1: and they get the Patriots next with like like two players.
Speaker 1: That's that's on my radar. By the way, I don't
Speaker 1: have as much rage towards the Patriots as I used to.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady leaving really did change some things, I think.
Speaker 1: But you seem to be catching these teams at a
Speaker 1: good time, Greg, You gotta admit it, right, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: noticed this pattern they keep like right before teams playing
Speaker 1: the Patriots. It's like, you know, they get hacked on
Speaker 1: by machetees or there's viruses through a wood chip or
Speaker 1: now deal with New England. You know that every time
Speaker 1: we count out the Titans, they deliver a big beforeance.
Speaker 1: This would be classic Titans to bounce back in a
Speaker 1: huge way. Everyone. They bought themselves a lot of rope,
Speaker 1: I mean they I mean, you're still essentially three games
Speaker 1: up on the Cults, but you're allowing the other teams
Speaker 1: to get into this. Number one is your best, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. Are you worried about the Cults a little bit?
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to see them in the playoffs also swept them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna take. They have to take
Speaker 1: three games. They have to do three games better than
Speaker 1: the Titans over the last six. So that would be
Speaker 1: all it takes is the Patriots beating the Titans next week.
Speaker 1: And you and the Titans have already let go of
Speaker 1: that number one seed. Yeah, the number one seed. That
Speaker 1: thing happened, That would happen quickly, so that that game
Speaker 1: is a big a. You have a member Dan's point
Speaker 1: about road teams thriving. You almost don't want to have
Speaker 1: home field advantage, according to where can you do? Can
Speaker 1: you do some calculating and see how home teams did
Speaker 1: this week? Uh, let's move on. Or a grave digger
Speaker 1: somebody behind the glass? Uh, you comported yourself. Well they're justin.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Charlotte. Stop steps up his left,
Speaker 1: get through the tackle. That's on running now it's to
Speaker 1: stop at the forty goes out to talk those bagger
Speaker 1: rock his body. That is hot. Unbelievable, boy, shot to
Speaker 1: the thirty six. To sit your game in the first down. Oh,
Speaker 1: double bongos? What are we doing? Taylor does hears those bongos?
Speaker 1: He does Bram Weinstein with the call w T Bram
Speaker 1: Weinstein always Michael Stein, but I who knows Taylor Heineke
Speaker 1: the upstage Cam Newton even for two d six yards
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns against the defense that was ranked the
Speaker 1: best in football entering the game, and uh Washington spoils
Speaker 1: Camp's return to Bank of American Stadium for the w
Speaker 1: f T over c A R. Greg. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Washington's long term plans are at QB, but Taylor
Speaker 1: Heineke is making a case with games like these. The
Speaker 1: last two weeks he's been awesome and this was the
Speaker 1: best game of his career. He led the league today
Speaker 1: an average depth of target and yet he only had
Speaker 1: six in completions. We don't normally play like a fourth
Speaker 1: and three six yard game, but if you haven't seen
Speaker 1: that highlight, that play was ridiculous. It was such a
Speaker 1: FARV type play and it typified this game because right
Speaker 1: before that, there was a third and twenty one where
Speaker 1: Heineke throws a dart for eight team. They rush up.
Speaker 1: No indecisiveness from riverboat Ron at all. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: Taylor make a play, and for the second time on
Speaker 1: a big fourth down he makes a crazy play. He's
Speaker 1: been great on third and fourth down, And I contrast
Speaker 1: that to Matt Rule, who just earlier a little bit later,
Speaker 1: I think in the fourth quarter, Um hems and haws
Speaker 1: and and the crowd starts booing because he's gonna punt
Speaker 1: on fourth down. And then he wastes all this time
Speaker 1: and then he takes the time out, wasting time out
Speaker 1: he needed after wasting the thirty seconds, and then they
Speaker 1: don't get the fourth down either, and it was like
Speaker 1: riverboat Ron decisive. Taylor Heineke amazing. Kim Newton played great
Speaker 1: in this game, a great maybe an overset. Kim Newton
Speaker 1: played well, He played plenty well enough to win, and
Speaker 1: yet Heiniki was easily the best quarterback. I yeah that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I locked up the Panthers. I felt really
Speaker 1: good about it, even better early on in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Panthers, it's like, geez, you
Speaker 1: you had all this momentum and you have this opportunity
Speaker 1: against Washington and just to get beat in a game
Speaker 1: where your defense can't get stops, that's disappointing. I mean,
Speaker 1: they kind of Again, the NFC is so wide open,
Speaker 1: just like the a f C, that the fact that
Speaker 1: they're five and six doesn't take him out of contention,
Speaker 1: but it makes you again wonder, all right, you know
Speaker 1: it's time to pump the brakes a little bit because
Speaker 1: this team might not be ready to make that row.
Speaker 1: It's got a thrill Ron Rivera to on the final
Speaker 1: two drives of the of the game for for Carolina
Speaker 1: to shut him down on fourth down both times. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like this is un played well. But then again,
Speaker 1: he did have they did have a chance to last
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, and he couldn't get
Speaker 1: it done. The Ron Rivera experience, if you go back
Speaker 1: through multiple seasons in Carolina, we've seen we saw it
Speaker 1: last year in Washington. It's like, let's start too and
Speaker 1: seven and then we'll start. Then we'll kick into high
Speaker 1: gear and make the playoffs. But in Carolina, I feel
Speaker 1: like there were like multiple campaigns or like they'd get
Speaker 1: off to a terrible start and then rally and it's
Speaker 1: like Ron Rivera is obviously the coach of the future.
Speaker 1: You stick with everyone else and I do the same
Speaker 1: thing the next year. But this I think part of
Speaker 1: the problem with Washington wasn't just the defense that was
Speaker 1: so off. Critiqued the offense was so out of sync.
Speaker 1: They haven't had Curtis Samuel all year long. They just
Speaker 1: haven't had the dudes and heinek The one thing about him,
Speaker 1: I think if there's something about watching him that is exciting,
Speaker 1: there's an element of daring due to his game. I
Speaker 1: I hate the gun slinger terminology for quarterbacks, but he
Speaker 1: kind of has that energy to him and he hits
Speaker 1: throws and he's and when he makes a mistake, he'll
Speaker 1: just keep doing it and I keep throwing it. And
Speaker 1: he was fun to watch. He was getting love after
Speaker 1: the game from some of the Panthers too, who were
Speaker 1: you know, ex teammates of his. His first start as
Speaker 1: a quarterback was with with Carolina revenge for him, not
Speaker 1: just Ron Rovert, and they were just kind of they
Speaker 1: were just saying, that guy's a dog. Yeah. Scott Turner
Speaker 1: had a great day. The offensive coordinate. For watching that,
Speaker 1: that was very surprising to me to see their offense
Speaker 1: control of the game. I expected more out of the
Speaker 1: Carolina defense. They had a masterful end to the first half,
Speaker 1: started the second half sequence where they have a six
Speaker 1: minute touchdown drive that took all the time off to
Speaker 1: end the first half. Then another six minute touchdown drive
Speaker 1: to start the second half, and you're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: what just happened here? And Cam came back and everything,
Speaker 1: but scary Terry had one of his best games of
Speaker 1: his career, and Antonio Gibson, I think looks a little
Speaker 1: more spry than he did when he was fighting injury earlier.
Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit that came up I
Speaker 1: think on the Thursday show with p J Walker play
Speaker 1: at all in this game and he I don't think
Speaker 1: he did, and he didn't at all, and they said
Speaker 1: the plan was too but they thought Cam was playing well.
Speaker 1: And after the game, one thing I guess the last
Speaker 1: thing that will come to somebody that's absorbing a new
Speaker 1: playbook is the two minute offense and that it kind
Speaker 1: of set up games scriptwise poorly for Carolina where they
Speaker 1: needed that last UH drive and Camp didn't have the
Speaker 1: full playbook at his disposal. They did not move the
Speaker 1: ball late in that game. So tough loss for the Panthers.
Speaker 1: UH and Washington's battling UH the only one game came
Speaker 1: out of the wild. Yeah, it is, it is crazy,
Speaker 1: It is stupid, but ultimately fun. Let's move to Duval
Speaker 1: here's a gun run to Deebo Samuel coming left right
Speaker 1: at ward breaks a tackle down the sideline. Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: will take it all the way in textown San fran Cisco.
Speaker 1: On that a lot of sauce. Greg Papa with the
Speaker 1: call k n BR. Jimmy Garoppolo threw two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: in the third straight game. Debo had another touchdown on
Speaker 1: the ground. What a year he's having. Four doowners dominate
Speaker 1: the Jaguars thirty to ten, their third win in four weeks.
Speaker 1: Mark's felt like a possible letdown game for the Niners,
Speaker 1: but San Francisco took care of its business and impressive fashion. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I picked this game second in our draft, and you know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people telling me that I
Speaker 1: was nuts to do so, but I knew what I
Speaker 1: wanted to see. I wanted to see if they could.
Speaker 1: Haters were out for you. You know what, we look
Speaker 1: at it. Listen, when you when you know what you want,
Speaker 1: you just go after it. You don't, you don't risk anything.
Speaker 1: Incredibly gutsy locks. So congratulations on that as well. We'll
Speaker 1: look at they did me wrong last week, but now
Speaker 1: our relationship is totally repaired, because this is one of
Speaker 1: the teams that I went into the year wanting to love,
Speaker 1: and my love is starting to return and grow a bit.
Speaker 1: But I wanted just to see would anything translate from
Speaker 1: that RAMS game or was that just a you know,
Speaker 1: one of these fluke scenarios. Opening drive once again. Forty niners,
Speaker 1: twenty plays, eight seven yards, thirteen plus minutes. The first
Speaker 1: quarter was over and like maybe twenty one minutes, and
Speaker 1: I was like, it was just fascinating to watch deep Samuel.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that one touchdown. He led the team
Speaker 1: with seventy nine yards on eight carries on the ground.
Speaker 1: They basically used them out of the backfield as a
Speaker 1: running back, and they're banged up in the backfield, so
Speaker 1: they they absolutely slaughter Jacksonville inside the numbers, that's what
Speaker 1: they've been doing. But they had touchdown drives of eighty,
Speaker 1: seventy seven and seventy seven yards. And the Jaguars offense
Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer, you know, basically called it out after
Speaker 1: the game himself. It they there's there's no growth in
Speaker 1: this offense. And and and Trevor Lawrence at the end of
Speaker 1: the game is interesting to see a shot of him
Speaker 1: with his arm around urban Meyer and not you know,
Speaker 1: they in a friendly way. I think they both know.
Speaker 1: They're just they're in for it. It's along. It's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be as long as possible for the rent the
Speaker 1: rest of the season, because the hope was maybe Jacksonville's
Speaker 1: defense is rounding into something special. Not today, I mean
Speaker 1: that that narrative is over for a week. With Devo
Speaker 1: and watching his great season, It's been an all pro
Speaker 1: level season for Deebo Samuel. That's when like Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: and he's had his ups and downs, obviously, but where
Speaker 1: having a really like smart um creative play caller, when
Speaker 1: you have a and you have a very unique talented
Speaker 1: player like Deebo, when those things come together and you
Speaker 1: see what you're seeing there because he the way he's used,
Speaker 1: you get the feeling Deebo Samuel's special abilities are being
Speaker 1: used to their maximum efficiency in this offense. It's nice
Speaker 1: to see it that way. Um like Brandon Auk, like
Speaker 1: who was in the doghouse and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: weird stuff going on with him. He's changed and he
Speaker 1: had seventy eight yards in a touchdown any so he's
Speaker 1: added to the offense like he just wasn't part of
Speaker 1: pretty good over the last month or so. When they
Speaker 1: play like this and they run the ball like this,
Speaker 1: they had place to four at one point. Well this
Speaker 1: I feel like this probably happens to the Jaguars a lot.
Speaker 1: But they had fourteen first downs while the Jacks had
Speaker 1: twelve total yards midway through the second quarter. It was
Speaker 1: just like game over, go eat a sandwich. Alright, So
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they stay in the picture in the NFC
Speaker 1: West as the Seattle Seahawks fall further out, Let's close
Speaker 1: things up with a trip to the darkest recesses of
Speaker 1: the a f C East to a pressure gets away
Speaker 1: to throw keep for all. He's got fifteen ten and
Speaker 1: he's out the five yard Oh, he's stayed in down.
Speaker 1: He tiptoed down the end. They say he's inbound. The
Speaker 1: look at this, of course, but a sixty five yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cefalo, Jason Taylor, Joe Rose all on the call
Speaker 1: there for w q A m uh to a toungo
Speaker 1: by Loa connected on a long touchdown to mccollins, and
Speaker 1: he threw the go ahead five yard touch up past
Speaker 1: the miles gascon early in the fourth quarter final score
Speaker 1: seventeen Jets ball to the Dolphins at the meadow Lands.
Speaker 1: That's three straight wins for the Miami football team. They got,
Speaker 1: you know, even they have a pulse. How paulse however
Speaker 1: faint it may be, in the a f C playoff race, hmm,
Speaker 1: two was good by the way, seven thirty three to
Speaker 1: seventy three touchdown passes. He had an interception that wasn't pretty,
Speaker 1: but that's part of the two experience. Uh. In general,
Speaker 1: I think his audition I'm giving him so far through
Speaker 1: like sophomore season. I'm giving him like you got a
Speaker 1: factor in the injuries because their ability that is a skill.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a B minus so far. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it needs to get to for them to
Speaker 1: get out of the deshaunt. You give out a lot
Speaker 1: of B minus. I do remember on our show you
Speaker 1: would give us a post so great, a lot of
Speaker 1: it's definitely I think it's above C plus and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a solid B yet. It's a B minus.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get and now we're getting scientific.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get to A minus to
Speaker 1: keep them out of the Deshaun Watson sweep steaks, so
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go on a tear here. They
Speaker 1: have an intense wandering eye and so like B minus
Speaker 1: or let's see if it's out of a hundred, he
Speaker 1: gets like an eighty six to finish the SEC. No,
Speaker 1: he's got quarterbacks somewhere else they think is a ninety six.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned they have a pulse. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: how the top of the NFC is much better. But
Speaker 1: if you if you look at the wild card race
Speaker 1: in the a f C versus the NFC, it's actually
Speaker 1: more open. In the NFC. The Dolphins are still three
Speaker 1: games in the lost column behind Chargers, Bengals, Buffalo, which
Speaker 1: right now is five six seven, And so it's kind
Speaker 1: of a it's a big amount. That's why you and
Speaker 1: I differentiate because I think every team the AFC stinks, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, but they have more teams
Speaker 1: to climb over, and they're like, oh what about the Patriots?
Speaker 1: What about them? And now they all stink different. There's
Speaker 1: no way to judge what's gonna happen. They can somehow
Speaker 1: get in. Uh yeah, they got the Panthers, Giants and Jets.
Speaker 1: There is a way in if they can. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Thursday. How about that Elijah More if you
Speaker 1: want to on the Jet side, and Joe Flacco is
Speaker 1: now the fourth quarterback to play for the team this year.
Speaker 1: What a joke season? If um, Zack Wilson sits out
Speaker 1: another week. Um, but Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore is the
Speaker 1: truth that guys, as long as he stays out of
Speaker 1: the Jets, grinder is going to be a big time player.
Speaker 1: That draft class in general has a chance to be
Speaker 1: really good if Zach Wilson can play. But the only
Speaker 1: way we can know of Zach Wilson could play is
Speaker 1: if he actually plays. And let's hope that he is
Speaker 1: back in the lineup soon because otherwise there's really no
Speaker 1: reason to watch the Jets. Yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately angry. I'm not I'm actually not right, you
Speaker 1: know that part of the season. Jets right now have
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick in the draft with their
Speaker 1: own pick and the number five via Seattle. Is not
Speaker 1: feeling good right now. Alright, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson get Josh Rosen. No, that's not happening. I
Speaker 1: don't believe, but you know, we'll see, all right, Hey, Ricky,
Speaker 1: By the way, that was pretty crazy. The halftime. They
Speaker 1: did this great salute to service halftime show and they
Speaker 1: brought out the veterans and it was the six major
Speaker 1: military branches in the flag eggs were out. And then
Speaker 1: this dude. They throw it up to this dude in
Speaker 1: the concourse and he's an artist who's also a singer,
Speaker 1: and he does a like an America, the beautiful rendition
Speaker 1: of the song while painting, and Me and Ricky are
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out what he's doing. It looks
Speaker 1: like a mess. It looks like he's not gonna pull
Speaker 1: it off. All he's singing and painting, and then something
Speaker 1: special happened. Oh my god, this was so we're You
Speaker 1: and I are talking to each other like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the song is finishing up. He'd better finished, like he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of time. Looks like like we're like,
Speaker 1: what the heck, what the heck? And then when he
Speaker 1: flipped the painted flipping You and I were screaming it
Speaker 1: was it was an American eagle, and Dan and I
Speaker 1: you would have thought it was the coolest thing. And
Speaker 1: then Mark thought we were joking, Like you thought we
Speaker 1: were being just jerks, but we legitimately like in that moment,
Speaker 1: it was the most impressive feat I had seen in
Speaker 1: the filming. Yeah, why no one else can? It has
Speaker 1: nothing to make it? Did you know it was an
Speaker 1: eagle ahead when he was painting it? Let me answer
Speaker 1: for Greg. I wasn't even watching. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean I was eating. I was eating lunch or dinner
Speaker 1: with Tyler Dragon, our old friend, But I was not
Speaker 1: aware of the entertainment. Mark Mark knew exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: So that's why he thought we were being jerk because
Speaker 1: he was like we they thought he thought we were
Speaker 1: making fun of not not in a not in a
Speaker 1: way where I was like, look at me versus youtuo.
Speaker 1: But I thought you guys were being kind of like
Speaker 1: snarky about the fact that because the action was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I think he was hold, yeah, look I lacked lots
Speaker 1: of skills, but like that that thing like I saw
Speaker 1: when he was making I said to you guys, why
Speaker 1: like that, there's an upside down eagle And it was
Speaker 1: ll But you would have thought they just told us
Speaker 1: like we had one a million dollars like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what made us to react like that, but we went.
Speaker 1: The dude was singing, I'm going to hitting every note
Speaker 1: painting with his hands and it was upside down. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see what spends the canvas around in a big spot.
Speaker 1: One thing that helped me, it's a big win for
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Like there's a there's a rivalry between the
Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers game day presentation. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a incredible thing I've seen. I've been to a number
Speaker 1: of places where they basically like an artist did the
Speaker 1: same thing, where it's like they go through the senior
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, what is it? Then they turned the
Speaker 1: painting around, So maybe my eyes are they singing and
Speaker 1: I'm looking. His name is Joe Everson UM and he
Speaker 1: only has um a thousand subscribers on YouTube and only
Speaker 1: gets up Joe Everson on YouTube like everybody. Let's everybody,
Speaker 1: the listeners. If you want to see this guy's work,
Speaker 1: please go to his YouTube page, comment and say a
Speaker 1: t N sent you and give the man love. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it just ricky. See, I was right there
Speaker 1: with you. We had a moment. Yeah, we were exactly
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Um, good show. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. A little different week. Obviously, it's Thanksgiving, so
Speaker 1: we will have our next show on Wednesday, will preview
Speaker 1: all of week twelve. Thank you for everybody, Thank you
Speaker 1: to everybody. Until then, he the call