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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL. Podcast is the Mike McCarthy on

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Speaker 1: time management from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas. I'm with heroes, Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler, the three of us, along with Ricky Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: She got her credential. We're at Sophie Stadium about an

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Speaker 1: hour ago watching the Steelers Chargers clash and uh, I

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Speaker 1: hate to say Greggy, but we blew it in a

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Speaker 1: big spot. We leave. I'm looking at the game summary here,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to all the games. Uh. Week

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Speaker 1: eleven played Sunday in just a bit, but we leave.

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Speaker 1: At thirty t Austin Ekeler goes in from five yards

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Speaker 1: out seven place, seventy five yards to seven possession. It

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, Pittsburgh, They're just never gonna get a stop.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we leave the building, we get Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers five yard touchdown pass thirty four um No. We

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Speaker 1: get a Eric Ebron touchdown nine place, seventy five yards.

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Speaker 1: We get an interception by the Chargers Pat Friar Muth

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Speaker 1: five yards, uh touchdown two yards to plays eleven yards

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Speaker 1: thirty four Boswell forty five yard field goal after an

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Speaker 1: interception that went off of a helmet four. There was

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Speaker 1: a block punt earlier, we did see that. And then

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Speaker 1: a classic ending for the Chargers and their fans. There

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Speaker 1: weren't a lot of them in that building, but a

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Speaker 1: classic ending. And we're gonna get to all of it.

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Speaker 1: But Mark, you know we left before the classic part

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Speaker 1: of the game entered the equation. I know you were

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Speaker 1: upset seal those Steelers fans. Uh sad at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game and miss out on that. Did get

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Speaker 1: to see Kim Hayward punch Justin Herbert on the ground. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's when I decided to leave at one point. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was I remember growing up. I used to

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Speaker 1: get on this one kid because he had a story

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Speaker 1: that he and his dad left Game six of Mets

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Speaker 1: Red sox um when he was a youth. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you you don't. I would never myself do that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the equal because the stakes weren't

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Speaker 1: even remotely close, but uh, my car, and it's not

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Speaker 1: our team and we were coming back to recorda show.

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Speaker 1: That's true, But I would just say that it's the

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Speaker 1: first time I've ever found myself in this situation where

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Speaker 1: in the bad, very very I came very close to

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't get any internal support. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you have, we could have gotten in this

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Speaker 1: same day. The thing that was crazy about it though,

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Speaker 1: is we left during the Steelers touchdown drive which made

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Speaker 1: it thirty seven thirty four to twenty seven, so that

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Speaker 1: that drive started with under nine minutes to go. We

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Speaker 1: That's how close we are to get it back. That

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Speaker 1: we got back within a four minute drive from the

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Speaker 1: game from the press box two here. That was taken

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Speaker 1: in a private helicopter from the press box to or

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Speaker 1: the It's an amazing thing. The stadium was amazing, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Chargers fans get a lot of grief because fans

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Speaker 1: come in and take their stadium number one. A lot

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Speaker 1: of Steelers fans were walking out with us when we

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Speaker 1: left when they were down by two touchdowns. So bad

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Speaker 1: job by you guys, because your team went and took

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Speaker 1: atmosphere where there's two different fan bases cheering, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not great if you're a Chargers fan, but it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool, Like it's the Chargers fans were still loud

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Speaker 1: as someone who's not a fan of either, it's just

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Speaker 1: like it was a it's a cool atmosphere. All right.

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Speaker 1: with the game that we were at but missed out

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Speaker 1: the great Matt Money spent on the call. Here comes

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Speaker 1: the blitz throw outside the numbers, caught side Mike Williams,

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Speaker 1: bong goes right out the gate. And I want Money

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Speaker 1: to know because Money listens to the show and he

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Speaker 1: is the voice of God for the Round the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: and the voice of the Chargers is that we got

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the big plays and recent Chargers history.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert to Mike Williams from for fifty three yards.

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Speaker 1: It is the game winning score. One of the craziest

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Speaker 1: I would have said yes. But I mean to think

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Speaker 1: I did that. That thing threw me right there. But

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Speaker 1: it was a series of Chargers mistakes that opened the door.

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Speaker 1: And then at the end, because I think their offense

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Speaker 1: and that included the block punt. We did see that, Danny.

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Speaker 1: I mean we didn't miss everything. We saw some dimes

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Speaker 1: Then you got an interception of Flukey play off a helmet,

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Speaker 1: This is catastrophic. He's got to go down and make

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Speaker 1: just setting. They were put in position to climb back

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Speaker 1: baked in justin Herbert into that scenari that the Charges

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Speaker 1: it's a problem Herbert though three two and ninety No

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no wat in this game. There's no

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Speaker 1: it would have been very different for the Chargers. But

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Speaker 1: every team's dealing with that. Uh. And we will see

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Speaker 1: But you're right right, neither of these teams are perfect

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Speaker 1: think it was a terrible offensive performance either. Maybe what

430
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Speaker 1: ultimately like right now in the NFL, what it means

431
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Speaker 1: to have a good defense is to have a defense

432
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Speaker 1: that can carry you for a stretch of time like

433
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Speaker 1: two or three weeks or even a month when your

434
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Speaker 1: offense isn't quite right, and they can get you some

435
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Speaker 1: wins that you would lose typically because as there are

436
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Speaker 1: just a lot of dominant defenses in the league right now,

437
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: and and a dominant player for the Cowboys is Micah Parsons,

438
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: who has that defensive Brookie of the Year locked up.

439
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: He was unstoppable in this game. Two sacks, forced to fumble, um.

440
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Speaker 1: He was a big time player in this I love

441
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Speaker 1: that theory because we keep propping up defense A, B

442
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Speaker 1: and C during the week, and if we if the

443
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Speaker 1: expectation is we really are only saying they'll be good

444
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Speaker 1: for about a fortnite, then we're off that. Like we

445
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Speaker 1: look up at it, Well, it's like a matchup thing too. Yeah,

446
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Speaker 1: like they're capable of carrying you, but they're not gonna

447
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Speaker 1: do it a you. Parsons had more pressures, by the way,

448
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Speaker 1: in this game. I think that then it was a

449
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Speaker 1: PF stat than any player ever or something like that,

450
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Speaker 1: or a certain amount of years. It was over twelve.

451
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Speaker 1: He was at twelve and he got the thirteen or

452
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Speaker 1: fourteen pressures in one game. I believe the Chiefs are

453
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Speaker 1: held to two seventy six yards. Uh? Wait was that

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Speaker 1: and the only scored the Chiefs had the ball. To

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Speaker 1: your point about keep getting the ball back after they

456
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Speaker 1: scored sixteen points because of a missed extra point in

457
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Speaker 1: the first three drives, they go punt, punt, fumble, interception, punt,

458
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: field goal, miss field goal, punt. So the Cowboys defense

459
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Speaker 1: did what they could to keep this assistant Coach of

460
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Speaker 1: the Year candidates. The Cowboys were held to two seventy

461
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Speaker 1: six yards. This is the high scoring offense in the league,

462
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Speaker 1: held to five or fifteen on third down. They need

463
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Speaker 1: to get healthy. Uh, and Dak has to play a

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Speaker 1: little bit better. So uh they're they're slept. They gotta

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Speaker 1: get it together. Fissures in the locker room. Now let's

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Speaker 1: take a break. He's gonna turn give off the Jonathan

467
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Speaker 1: Taylor showed up at the one forward. There's five number five.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor has held the inch sold five times in

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Speaker 1: the game and the Colts have six more on the board.

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Speaker 1: It is thirty seven to seven. Who Joey Lawrence and Blossom?

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Speaker 1: Whoam Matt Taylor? Rick vent Terry? The call for w

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Speaker 1: f N I Jonathan Taylor said, a franchise record with

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns, and he took over the NFL lead in

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Speaker 1: both yards rushing and TVs. And the Colts route the

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Speaker 1: spiraling Buffalo Bills in Orchard Park. It doesn't matter anymore,

476
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Speaker 1: but it was in Buffalo. You should know that, Shookie.

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Speaker 1: We welcome him aboard. Now the pipe joins us. The

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Speaker 1: Colts looked like the better team from the kickoff in

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Speaker 1: this game, and Jonathan Taylor has just entered into the

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Speaker 1: m v P chat. Don't you agree? Yeah? I would

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Speaker 1: absolutely agree. I mean, you're the rushing leader and you're

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Speaker 1: doing it with emphasis, and I think no more emphatic

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Speaker 1: than this game today. And you know the Colts, they

484
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Speaker 1: got off the bus ready to play. It was clear

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Speaker 1: in their first drive. They went eleven place for sixty

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Speaker 1: five yards Captain with a Taylor touchdown. They get a

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Speaker 1: turnover and they turn that into another touchdown via pass.

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Speaker 1: They punched the Bills in the mouth. They proved to

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Speaker 1: them that going to Orchard Park not scare them. Playing

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Speaker 1: an inclement weather did not scare them because they have

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Speaker 1: right now the NFL's best running back in terms of

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Speaker 1: overall rushing yards in Jonathan Taylor, who was the engine

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Speaker 1: that powered them offensively with his five touchdowns, and really

494
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Speaker 1: the Bills had no answer. I mean for the entire game,

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Speaker 1: they had no answer. It's not even that their offense

496
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Speaker 1: couldn't keep up. Defensively, they could not stop Jonathan Taylor,

497
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Speaker 1: who has been this type of running back for a

498
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Speaker 1: lot of this year. But we are going to look

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Speaker 1: at his season and think of a game quicker than

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Speaker 1: this one because of how he did it. He ripped

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Speaker 1: off long runs, he scored in goal to ghost situations,

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Speaker 1: he caught passes, he did everything that was asked of him.

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Speaker 1: It's the next step in what I think is um

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Speaker 1: a progression in his career. It's still very early, of course,

505
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Speaker 1: but it started in the second half of last year

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Speaker 1: where he started to build this positive momentum. He's carried

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Speaker 1: it over into this year and he's developed himself more

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Speaker 1: as a back. He's not just a downhill runner who

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Speaker 1: who's capable of ripping off a long run. He's a

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Speaker 1: guy you have to account for on every down, and

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Speaker 1: the Bills simply did not do that defensively today. Josh

512
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Speaker 1: Allen also had a rough day. A couple interst options

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Speaker 1: that were ugly and they had no answer for them

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Speaker 1: when they had the ball, and that's how you get

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Speaker 1: a blowout. I mean to Dan's question, and this is

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Speaker 1: more about the Bills and they're up and down struggles

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Speaker 1: on offense. But wouldn't you say that Jonathan Taylor hop

518
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Speaker 1: scotched Josh Allen in the m v P race. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because they opened the broadcast and CBS talking

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Speaker 1: waxing poetic almost about how Josh Allen is a legitimate

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Speaker 1: m VP candidate and he's the reason that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are where they are right now. And frankly, I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills have relied on him too much to this

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Speaker 1: point and they couldn't rely on him. Not that he's

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Speaker 1: been bad, but he has not been a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's been a good quarterback who had a bad game,

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Speaker 1: but at no point as he an m v P candidate.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz by the way throws for a hundred and

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Speaker 1: six yards in this game. Uh, And that's all right,

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Speaker 1: because when you have Taylor going off the way that

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Speaker 1: he did and the defense playing as well as they did,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I thought a turning point in the

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Speaker 1: game shook or maybe just kind of a well where

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Speaker 1: are we at right now? Because remember the Bills were

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Speaker 1: slumping on offense leading into Week ten and then beat

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Speaker 1: up the Jets, who are a joke, and now they

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Speaker 1: go up against good competition again, and we see what

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Speaker 1: happens here. And there was a moment in the third

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Speaker 1: quarter they're down multiple scores, they're facing a fourth and

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Speaker 1: about about around six if I recall, and they opt

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Speaker 1: for a long I think fifty five in that range

542
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Speaker 1: yard field goal attempt overgoing for it, which predictably goes

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Speaker 1: horribly awry, and then the Colts go right down the

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Speaker 1: field and score and end the game. I mean that

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Speaker 1: to me really spoke a lot about both teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first off, not a confidence in the Bills offense to

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Speaker 1: be able to convert that fourth down, but also uh,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Bass's second missfield goal the day, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I said, inclinent weather. So it wasn't the best situation

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Speaker 1: for them, but you know how a game can go

551
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Speaker 1: your way in a lot of in a number of

552
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Speaker 1: different ways. Carson Wentz had a nice play, Whey scrambled.

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Speaker 1: He looked like Vintine Carson Wentz before everything that he's

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Speaker 1: dealt with in the last few years. It can also

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Speaker 1: go awry for another team, and it was like that

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Speaker 1: for the Bills with even in their kicking situation, where

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Speaker 1: they just had no confidence in what they were doing

558
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Speaker 1: and knew they were getting bullied on the field and

559
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Speaker 1: just capt a terrible day for them. That's got to

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Speaker 1: make their fans think because the two weeks ago they

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Speaker 1: lose that game to Jacksonville, and it's like, what is

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Speaker 1: going on with the Bills? And then they come back,

563
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Speaker 1: like you said, dominate the Jets. I think they're back

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Speaker 1: to where they were against Jacksonville. What is wrong with

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Speaker 1: our team? Why can't we put up the points that

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Speaker 1: we were capable of putting up and why can't we

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Speaker 1: get a stop? So kind of a soul searching week

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Speaker 1: I think ahead for the Bill. Plus inclement weather is

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Speaker 1: something that's gonna be happening in Buffalo, So it's like,

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Speaker 1: if you're not exactly they should be constructed, and I

571
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Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. But them beating Kansas City so

572
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Speaker 1: badly to get to four and one and now we're

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Speaker 1: sitting here with them at six and four is one

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Speaker 1: of the most surprising things to happen in this entire

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Speaker 1: nflc I know there's a lot of like up as down,

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Speaker 1: down as up in the NFL, but them hitting the

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Speaker 1: skids this hard, uh, is shocking to me. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's quite as shocking that Marx Colts. You know,

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Speaker 1: he spun the wheel and it decided which fan he

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Speaker 1: was going to be for the rest of them, and

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Speaker 1: he says he said he wasn't interested in him, that

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Speaker 1: he they were boring, that he has to be convinced.

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Speaker 1: And yet here they are. Whether they are a big

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Speaker 1: time playoff team or not, they're gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: center of the rest of this season. Not only are

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Speaker 1: they six and five, but they got the Bucks next week,

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Speaker 1: they got the Cult, the Patriots at home coming up,

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Speaker 1: They're at Arizona. So there's just gonna be like a

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Speaker 1: lot of big time games involving the Colts. Can I respond, Yes,

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Speaker 1: my response, I funked up because, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: already said on our network show a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: ago that I was wrong about this. The Colt the

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Speaker 1: Cults are good. Okay, they're good. They've not They've scored

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Speaker 1: under twenty five point points once since Week three, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's what we thought about Indianapolis in the off

596
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Speaker 1: season was not even this. This is superseding what we

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Speaker 1: hoped maybe you could accomplish with Carson Wentz. We knew

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was good, we knew the defense was good.

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Speaker 1: They're rounding into something completely different. And for everyone tweeting

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Speaker 1: me about like some quote I made about the cults,

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Speaker 1: like you know thirty five days ago, I've already told

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Speaker 1: you I was wrong. It's when I a what if

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Speaker 1: they you know they don't know that well in general,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now because this podcast is cannon.

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Speaker 1: So if you say it on the TV show, that's good,

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Speaker 1: but you have to come back. That's an extended universe.

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Speaker 1: Good vibes too. I watched like the very long like

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Speaker 1: hype speech and the celebrations afterwards, and I loved the

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Speaker 1: moment when t Y Hilton gave his coach some love.

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Speaker 1: He got us ready, he got us prepared to kick that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta defend you. I got I gotta defend Mark

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Speaker 1: real quick. They haven't beat a team that was of

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Speaker 1: legitimate quality until today, as the team bigger until today,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. They blew big leads against the Titans and

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00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: they're good. But they're they're they're good, all right. So

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Speaker 1: the Cults are surging, you know, getting into that division race.

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Speaker 1: Not completely out of the picture either, but they still

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Speaker 1: have a long hill of climb there. But they're certainly

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Speaker 1: in the playoff. Makes on a dangerous team because Taylor

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Speaker 1: is magnificent. Let's move on. They're gonna direct snap the

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Speaker 1: ball to Jarvis Landry. Landry is gonna roll to the lap.

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Speaker 1: He's looking, he's coming, and he's gonna run ten hard.

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Speaker 1: He's drying. I get touchdown Jarvis Landry his first touchdown

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Speaker 1: of the air. There you gown Jim down with the

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Speaker 1: call w K r K, you gotta you gotta win there,

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry scored from sixteen yards out. Nick Chubb loudly

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Speaker 1: announced his return with a hundred and thirty ground yards

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Speaker 1: on a receiving score. The Browns edged past the windless

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Speaker 1: lines third team ten at the Dog Pound Shookie. This

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Speaker 1: by the final score and highlights. This didn't seem pretty,

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Speaker 1: but the Browns stopped the bleeding after last week's unsightly

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Speaker 1: setback in Foxbow. Yeah, I think that touchdown that we

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Speaker 1: just played kind of captured exactly where the Brown's offense

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Speaker 1: is right now, and they have to resort to putting

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry in the shotgun and then just let him

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Speaker 1: freelance and and find an open field in the middle

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Speaker 1: to rush for a touchdown. I mean, they don't have

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: any rhythm offensively. But and I think today, frankly, uh,

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Speaker 1: they probably lose to nine of the thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL with the way they played. There's two

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Speaker 1: teams they've beat in this in this type of game.

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: It's Detroit and it's Jacksonville. Um, they got a lot

643
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: of work to do. I don't I don't really know

644
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: where the answers are their Their offense is a mess.

645
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield does not look good because of his injuries

646
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: and whatever else. But they were lucky to have Nick

647
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: Chubb backed. Why don't you carry a hundred thirty yards?

648
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: He was able to pace the offense and then close

649
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: the game out in a tight one. But you can't

650
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: feel too confident other than the fact that you added

651
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: another tay to the wind column and they all count

652
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the same. So you're six and five and you move

653
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: forward from here. So you've got if you're the Cleveland Browns,

654
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: you've got at this stage the most critical juncture in

655
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: your season. You've got the Ravens, a much needed by

656
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: week to get some people healthy, and then the Ravens again.

657
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: So three weeks from now, we're gonna know basically what

658
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: this team is all about out I think they are

659
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: impossible to figure out the fact that I sit on

660
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: the fact that they are an average team, uh that

661
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: has cannot get out of their own way. And yes,

662
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: it's injuries for Baker Mayfield, but I see a lot

663
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: of other things going on with him. I was watching

664
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: this out of the corner of my eye, and honestly

665
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: it was one of my more enjoyable sundays, not to

666
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: fully ride the journey. It was well, I I will

667
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: wait until they are vaguely enjoyable again. But Shook, I

668
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: would this is I'm not trying to be talk radio person,

669
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: but if this is the Baker we get from now

670
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: till the end of the season, injuries are not, does

671
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: it maybe operate as a blessing in disguise for the

672
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: front office. They have this incredibly tough decision coming up

673
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: where this extension talk makes no sense. At this point,

674
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: It's not heard an extension right but to me, the

675
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: decision they have no decision to make. They're not going

676
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: to give him anything. Yeah, I'm just saying it is

677
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: a question in Cleveland. No one's saying that they don't

678
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: have no decision to make. That's not true. Absolutely. I

679
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: get to x from you know, friends who are Browns

680
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: fans at Chuck Whitlock, who was one of our former

681
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: researchers of the network. He's moved on since then. He's

682
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: an avid Browns fan. He texts me every Sunday and

683
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: he told me the same thing, which is basically, we

684
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: gotta move on, Like this is this guy is not

685
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: the guy. But the decision you mean, get rid of

686
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: him this offseason because he's under contract for a very

687
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: cheap number next year. No, but it's not that no

688
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: one's talked about what to do with Baker Mayfield long

689
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: term because they have the fifth year. I'm with you,

690
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: but like, it's not a great situation for Baker Mayfield either.

691
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: It's not a great look optics wise to just he

692
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: didn't talk to the media. Mary Kay Cabot said nothing

693
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: in particular happened to cause that he was booed aggressively,

694
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: So maybe he was in his feelings. Who knows. You

695
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: don't want to guess why he didn't talk to the media,

696
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: but he kind of story apparently, like kind of walked

697
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: off the field, didn't celebrate, didn't shake any hands. It

698
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: sounds like if you kind of remissing the lines, if

699
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: you're tracking the team, he's you know, dreadfully beat up.

700
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: He has all different sorts of injuries to his knee,

701
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: his left shoulder, his foot, and he's getting booed in

702
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: his own building, and he's there's probably a lot of frustration.

703
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Now we'll see if it was simply out of frustration

704
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: that even talk us. That's not the right way to

705
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: play it either, because you just invite the firestorm of uh,

706
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, everyone to talk about your talking heads, debating

707
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: your future. It just adds more fuel to the fire.

708
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: That said, I think it's notable what I'm hearing from

709
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: both Shook and Mark for the first time, like Browns

710
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: fans starting to grapple with the idea that maybe Mayfield

711
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: isn't the guy going forward, because I haven't really heard

712
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: that from Browns fans until this point. So it feels

713
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: like things are starting to shift a little. That's maybe

714
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: more what I mean to just that, like, yeah, they

715
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: can figure this out, but like there's a polar shift

716
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: for me in terms of the Mayfield experience over the

717
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and just one offseason with a

718
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: bunch of like glowing reports about hey, they're back in sinks,

719
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, They've got they've got questions. My

720
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: thing with like talking about the future is now is

721
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the team that they're trying to win a Super Bowl

722
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: with right now? That's they gotta be good luck with

723
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: this team. Right there's there's six and five, I know,

724
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: but there's six games left of the season. There's a

725
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: lot to go right and and even even when you're

726
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: thinking about next year, like are what they really there's

727
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: no way he's getting extension this offseason. Is there any

728
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: chance that they would move off of him this year?

729
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Maybe because they have a piece that you could get

730
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: involved in of Russell Wilson, Yeah, because they do get

731
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: to buy There's still a lot of football. The a

732
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: FC is wide open. We've seen the Browns in their

733
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 1: top gear, even when they're not consistent, they were really

734
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: impressive when they're playing well. But right now there's a

735
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: lot of doubt around the organization, and I see how

736
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: it's starting to you know, the quarterback situation is back

737
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: under the microscope again. Also, my Tim Boyle could win

738
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: a game on Thanksgiving, prediction is not looking good. With

739
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards and two to two interceptions, you only

740
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: win by three. When Tim Boyle at seventy seven yards

741
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: and two interceptions, the Chicago's plane goes the direction of

742
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: like Amelia Earhart's plane. That's that's your Tim Boil victory. Greg, Like,

743
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean, does anyone start I know it's a very

744
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: unpopular take. Is anyone gonna start coming to my side

745
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: and take Thanksgiving away from the lines for just a

746
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: little bit, Maybe them like a teenager will give you

747
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: the keys back to the civic But you just got

748
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: a chill better. You're not getting the keys back either. Alright,

749
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: one more game before we say goodbye to Shook. Let's

750
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: head to the desert. Third down and goal from the

751
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: sick shotgun, snap burrow from the pockets to the left

752
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, chase touchdown. Oh, it was

753
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: the crossroads games on the NFL schedule. The Cincinnati Bengals

754
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: they were heading down, the Raiders, they were heading down.

755
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: Somebody there was a fork in the road. The cross

756
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: roads were there, and only one team could take the

757
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: correct path, and it was Cincinnati Bengs. The killer combination

758
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow and Jim R. Chase strike again. The

759
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: pair connected for the clinching touchdown in the fourth quarter.

760
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: It was win over the fading Raiders at Allegian Stadium.

761
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: Allegiant Legion. I don't even know what that word needs.

762
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon added two touchdowns as well, and what's been

763
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: an excellent season for the half back shook. Uh. This

764
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: is a much needed win for Cincinnati that that puts

765
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: them on the right path. And like I said, crossroads,

766
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the Raiders just turned down a dark road. Yeah, huge

767
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: cross roads for the Bengals coming off that blowout loss

768
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: to the Browns, going to the bye week, and they

769
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: spent that bye week very productively, evidently based on how

770
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: they played on Sunday. I mean, their defense was stellar

771
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: for the majority of the game. They significant yeah, one

772
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: of them, and then we give up one significant touchdown

773
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: drive early in the fourth quarter, and then they answered.

774
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: They responded with a long drive to put the game away,

775
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: cap by a touchdown by Joe Mixon. It was actually

776
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: it was touched on passenger mar Chase. It was a

777
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: it was a complete performance. I think, Um, you know,

778
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: this is the Bengals team that was at the top

779
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: the a f C in October. This is this is

780
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: how they played today. And and then on the Raiders side,

781
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: it's hey, offense, wake up before the fourth quarter. Your

782
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: defense is playing its tails off to keep you in

783
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: the game, and you're not holding up your end of

784
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: the bargain. And and we've seen this too often from

785
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I think, which is, you know, one game

786
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: they can come out and light it up. They lit

787
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: it up very early in the season, but they haven't

788
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: played complimentary football for the entire season. And that's ultimately

789
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: what sank them today. And you have to wonder, you know,

790
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: the whole the bisaccia, the boost from from going to

791
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: interim head coach that's long gone now, and you just

792
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: got the bump. That's what. I don't know if bump

793
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: was positive or negative connotation, but I'll show you a bump. Bump.

794
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: They took a few bumps and not the good time.

795
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: On Sunday, Yeah, they watch this game too, shook and

796
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: uh Vegas was just so flat offensively in this like

797
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: a nice st smack once in a while, I know,

798
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: but we don't talk about that careful with that, uh.

799
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: And I know they got if you look at the

800
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: box car they got Darren Waller back involved the loss

801
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: of Henry Ruggs. From a pure perspective, it was a

802
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: real tough blow. It just feels like this offense needs

803
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: to be opened up more. Derek Carr if you look,

804
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll his ranking of the QB Index

805
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: has started to go south with this slump as well.

806
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: They're just not as dynamic as they need to be.

807
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: And they weren't able to hang with a Bengals team

808
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: that had its own offensive problems early in this game.

809
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: But Las Vegas just never was able to turn it on.

810
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: That's three straight losses. By the way, how about Joe

811
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: Burrow now, please, I mean Joe Burrows hundred fifty yards?

812
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: They typically lose this game, right in a regular setting,

813
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: they typically and they end up winning by what was it,

814
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: nineteen points too, Not like that's a ton, but that's

815
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: that's wild. And yet the key play of the game

816
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: to me was that six yard throw to Chase with

817
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: about five minutes left to you know, put them up

818
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: nine and that's a pretty throw on third down. There

819
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: is something to Joe Burrow like in big moments. I

820
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: know he's had some fourth quarter interceptions, but that was

821
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: a big moment and he got it done. And how

822
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: about the Eli Appsle Apple Redemption Tour right now? Big

823
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: time interception in a key spot it was part of

824
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: There was a sequence here where the Raiders haven't straight

825
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: uh third down fails. That's hard to do. Fourteen straight

826
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: third down failures. Uh. And the Bengals are now one

827
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: win away from topping their over under. If if they

828
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: won next week they had the Steelers, if you go

829
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: sweep the Steelers, they are in fantastic position the Bengals,

830
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and you've you've maybe wiped away some of the questions

831
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: about who are they at the basic level after a

832
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: very wayward couple of weeks. Yeah, because at that point

833
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: you're let's see two thirds of the way through your

834
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: divisional schedule with a date with the Ravens a date

835
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: with the Browns left. I mean, you're in You're in

836
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: a great spot in a division that's very winnable. A

837
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: team that many of us expected to finish last in

838
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: the division is positioned right now to be in it

839
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: until the end. If they keep and if they play

840
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: like this, they gotta be a little bit better offensively.

841
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: But if they can get this type of play from

842
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: their defense, I mean, they're gonna be a tough out

843
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: no matter who they played for the remainder of the season.

844
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: And very interesting to watch they went. At one point

845
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: they lost remember fifteen straight road games. They are four

846
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and two on the road. Five of their last seven

847
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: games are at home. Such a such an important win

848
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati because it did feel like the storm clouds

849
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: were gathering. That was an example of a perfect time

850
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: for a bye and they were able to reset things.

851
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: They got this win and now they have a big

852
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: match up against Pittsburgh next week. But now you can

853
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: go into that with confidence. And if you're the Raiders,

854
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, they're doing the same thing they did

855
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: last year and the year before now they didn't. That's different.

856
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: This year is different. They collapsed in November this year

857
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: last year, and the year before it was December, so there,

858
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: it's not the same season. Well, they're overachieving on a

859
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: weird in a weird way, this right there ahead of

860
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: the curve in a lot of ways. That's organizationally what

861
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: you want to be Shookie. Uh, you look great, Uh

862
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: you talk great, and we appreciate having me on the

863
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: show every week. I'm I'm overwhelmed. I don't I don't

864
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: know what to say. Thanks. There he goes the heart

865
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. They shook. All right, let's take a break

866
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: and then move on. All right, goodbye to Nick Shook

867
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: and let us now head to Chicago and give us

868
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: the Freeman lops to don Alright, Freeman and the raven

869
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: have taken the lead. What two seconds left in Chicago? Wow? Great?

870
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the background audio there,

871
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: it was like great work by the guy with the

872
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: guy seemed like a crowd from like the mid nineteen thirties.

873
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: They Jerry Sandusky with the called w b a L

874
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: subbing for an ill Lamar Jackson. Tyler Huntley led a

875
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: winning drive cap I had Davanta Freeman three yard run

876
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: with twenty two seconds to play. It allowed the Ravens

877
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: to escape with a six win over DA Bears. Mark

878
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: The Ravens danced with the devil in this one to

879
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: tell the tale means they almost lost to a crappy team,

880
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: but then they didn't. Yeah, and like a sliver of

881
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: reality would have made this the game where we're talking

882
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton coming in and replacing a Justin Fields

883
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: who has left the game with banged up ribs, and

884
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, with under two minutes to go, it's fourth

885
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: and six for the Bears. Okay, Jason Peters had a

886
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: false start, making it fourth and eleven, and this was

887
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Chicago's final shot against Baltimore and Andy Dalton zips a

888
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: rope to Marcus for a touchdown. They're up thirteen nine

889
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: and then it's Tyler Huntley and one forty one minute

890
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: left for the Ravens and they were sitting um at

891
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: the Chicago and Tyler Huntley played. They they had a

892
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: good plan for him. Mark Andrews was an all star

893
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: in this game. He was a security blanket for Huntley,

894
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: who ran a couple of times, made a couple of passes.

895
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: But what happened here was they did we can't stick

896
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: to our plan. We have to let Huntley throw the ball,

897
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: and he showed that he could a twenty one yard

898
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: dart to Devon Duvernet and then on third and twelve

899
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: a thirty yard or to Sammy Watkins to the Chicago

900
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: three yard line. I mean Chicago slept after the Sandy

901
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: Dalton touchdown. They went to sleep on defense, totally allowed

902
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: Baltimore to march down the field. Then bang that DeVonta

903
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Freeman touchdown. They're up sixteen thirteen, lights out. And I

904
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: want to point out one other thing real quick. In

905
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: this game, there was an absolute meltdown for Matt Nagy. Okay,

906
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: this was early in the game where it was fourth

907
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: and one and it was like seven to six, and

908
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: they appeared to be going actually going out and punting

909
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: the ball when everyone else in the league is going

910
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: for it, and the crowd in Chicago we heard them

911
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: on that replay, was going absolutely nuts. I am convinced

912
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: that Matt Nagy was essentially At one point he seemed

913
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: to be shouting and screaming and hollering at a sound

914
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: man who was controlling his headset or something. I don't

915
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: know what was going on there. But then two minutes later,

916
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: there's suddenly going for it and there's fire Nagy chance

917
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: in the stands. I mean, he was convinced by the

918
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: booing crowd to change his decision. I think is this

919
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: when we I was doing a sky yes, exactly, and yeah,

920
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: it was Live with Neo Reynolds and I was trying to,

921
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, talk about I think the Eagles Saints game,

922
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: and Mark is five feet away from me just going Naggy.

923
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: What's Naggy doing? He's going crazy over here? And I

924
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: had I had to like call it out because I

925
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: didn't know if they could hear. I was like, well,

926
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: what what is happening? Like New York? Like I suddenly

927
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: was from New York. I mean it wiped away. I

928
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: think what's lost is, like we talked about the way

929
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: it didn't work. They ran a wildcat. They put David

930
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: Montgomery in the backfield and a wildcat. And what Montgomery

931
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: could have he if you watched the replay, he kind

932
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: of ran in the wrong direction. He could have gone

933
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: left and got in the yardage. But they just had

934
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: a bad plan for it. They just seemed so discombobulated

935
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: at times. The thing that this game did is it

936
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: wiped out a three and a half sack performance by

937
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. Rog Kuwan Smith was all over the place.

938
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: Just we came so close to having a very different

939
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: narrative to this story. Talking about this right now, Well,

940
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: because it was a wild one the Ravens. The Ravens

941
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: stole it away. At the Ravens winning these games, well,

942
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: it shows who the Ravens are. And I thought that

943
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: on the flip side, John Harball was nothing but utter

944
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: calm through the entire performance. And you're going in there

945
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: with non Lamar Jackson and you have no business winning

946
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: this thing. And sorry, but it was Greg Roman showing

947
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: you I can take any quarterback and build an offense

948
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: around him. The Bears were in total chaos scoring. I mean,

949
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do with that pal excite?

950
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean Andy Dalton brought them life when he came

951
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: in justin fields and thrown for seventy nine yards and

952
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: a half plus. It was not a good performance by him.

953
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Dalton brought life. Then they went to sleep. The last

954
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: thing happens and they let the Ravens right back in

955
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: the only touchdown drive of the day, which is for

956
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens, which is crazy. So I'll remember a couple

957
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: of things from this game, One like, why is wing

958
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: Martindale blitzing there? All of Baltimore is really getting sick

959
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: of Don Martindale this year for doing that, because you've

960
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: given of all these big time and he blitzes Andy

961
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Dalton on four you know, four than game. Essentially they

962
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: get the touch on. But I will remember, I really will,

963
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: I think forever this moment, which was the second that

964
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: Goodwin catches it and goes into the end zone for

965
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: the Bears to take a lead. And at this point

966
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens have not scored a touchdown all game. Um

967
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: Our coworker Danny Ryder in the newsroom within a half

968
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: a second said, oh, they're gonna lose. He's a Bears fan.

969
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: He didn't even for one second. He didn't enjoy it.

970
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: He just said, they're definitely they're gonna lose. And he

971
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: was right. So you wanted Bears and lines on Thanksgiving,

972
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: you got it. Bears have lost five straight and uh,

973
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: they don't believe at this time the time we're taping

974
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: this anyway, that Justin Fields broke his ribs. But it's

975
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: a short turnaround to play on Turkey Day, so we'll

976
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: see what happens. And by the way, Marky, those Baltimore

977
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Ravens who may or may not have Lamar Jackson, uh,

978
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: we'll see how he's feeling. Uh Hardbos said that the

979
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: illness is not COVID nineteen or the flu. They hoped

980
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: he was gonna feel better on Sunday morning, and Study

981
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: felt worse. So we'll see what's going on with Lamar

982
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: and we hope he's okay. But the Ravens and Brown's

983
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: clash on Sunday Night football in Week twelve could be

984
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: mad cow disease were It's just an option. We're not

985
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: saying that's what it is if you look at if

986
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: you look at this raven season, though, they could be

987
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: like three and ten. They stole that Chiefs game, they

988
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: stole that Lions game, they stole that Vikings game, and

989
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: they stole this game like those are I think they're stealing.

990
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: What's there? So though, no, I know, I'm just saying

991
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: it's a great quarterback, a great coach, and a great kicker.

992
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: But they didn't even the quarterback was Tyler Huntley and

993
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: there's no it's But by the way, hey, Tony Romo,

994
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that like Bears general manager Ryan Pace

995
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: took you out like a five hundred dollar dinner, mentioning

996
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: like with flowery language, like three hundred times how well

997
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: built the team is thanks to Ryan Pace. I mean,

998
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: name dropped in twenty times. You know what we gotta

999
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: do any Sunday night football every week. That annoyed energy

1000
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: is good. Good for you. Let's moved to Philly. Hurts

1001
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: gives it offense side, I know, and he's running forward

1002
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: out a fight. He's at the ten, he's at the

1003
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: five for the touch down. Wan a fight, wanna fight fight?

1004
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to see all the singles win, Oh, Meryl Reese,

1005
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: the call? W I p Jalen Hurts. I think he's

1006
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: sticking around. He ran for three touchdowns. Darius slay at

1007
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: a pick six. Eagles roll over Greggy Saints forty to nine.

1008
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: That's two wins in a row for the first time

1009
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: for the Eagles and also Nick SIRIANTI, that's what the

1010
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: w looks like at the link. First win at home

1011
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: in five tries, Greggy, I know you're feeling this Eagles team.

1012
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: They're suddenly quite frisky. They are, and this is one

1013
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: where it was like best on best. I know there

1014
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: was a lot of Saints injuries and they lost that

1015
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: that's a factor. But the Saints came into this with

1016
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: the number one rush defense dv o A in the league.

1017
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: The Eagles came in just having rolled a bunch of

1018
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: these Patsy's in terms of run defenses, and I thought

1019
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: the Saints were gonna stand up and and be counted for.

1020
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts just makes this team go. Miles Sanders

1021
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: return and had a nice day ninety four yards to

1022
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, kept getting it done ten for sixty three.

1023
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: But Hurts on the ground is what opened it up.

1024
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: They ended up with two forty two. And it wasn't

1025
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: one of those where you got a big lead and

1026
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: then you just rack up yards. They had one fifty

1027
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: two in the first half. The Saints Actually, yeah, it

1028
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: kind of made a fourth quarter come back to make

1029
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: this thing interesting. It was all about that running game

1030
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: and those big uglies up front, and they showed their

1031
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: just like the baddest team going right now. Into this game,

1032
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: the Saints were averaging less than seventy three yards allowed

1033
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: on the ground. So to put to forty two on

1034
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: a very good Saints defense or run defense, I should

1035
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: say at the very least. And the Eagles of now

1036
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: sur passed one seventy five rushing and four straight games,

1037
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: including two plus and three wins over that spin. This

1038
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: is have an identity they're nasty upfront, and yeah, remember when,

1039
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: like the Ravens they could because it shows like if

1040
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna if you want to be a good coaching staff,

1041
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to completely recreate yourself midstream

1042
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: at times. And it reminds me of when the Ravens

1043
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: went from Flacco to Lamar Jackson and they embraced the

1044
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: concept of just saying we were that will never be

1045
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: that ever again because we have Lamar Jackson, We're gonna

1046
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: zig when the entire league zags and the Eagles. You know,

1047
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni was a pretty easy target for a lot

1048
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: of us who just watch his press conferences left and right,

1049
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: and then you just started to hear that the players

1050
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: were like, actually, we dig this guy. And I don't

1051
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: know what that meant. Maybe it's just like you're in public,

1052
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. But he does seem to have

1053
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: shown us he has a plan for Jalen Hurts, he

1054
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: has a plan for this offense, the way they're running

1055
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: the ball. I thought, you're right, Greig, this was the

1056
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: acid test today. Maybe it all floats away and instead

1057
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: they dropped a massive hammer. But there in the mix,

1058
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: they're they're five and six, they're they're in the mix now.

1059
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: It should be said the Saints were without their three

1060
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: best offense four if you want to count Jamis. There

1061
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: two tackles who have both been to multiple Pro Bowls

1062
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: were out, which was a little bit of a surprise. UH.

1063
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: And that helped Philly's defense show a transformation where they

1064
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: were really aggressive. They again, they're you're listening to the

1065
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: talk radio collars and it's working. Just why don't they

1066
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: run the ball? Why don't they be more aggressive on defense?

1067
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: They blitzed. Uh, they were very creative and Trevor Simeon

1068
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: UH was terrible in this first half of this game.

1069
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: He's terrible, Mike. He was rough. The final box scorers misleading,

1070
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: They kept trying. They I get it. It was it

1071
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: was it was six or eight teen for sixty yards

1072
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: in a in a brutal pick six. Slay got his

1073
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: third touchdown in four games. Uh. And he just didn't

1074
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: give them a chance in the first half. But they're

1075
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: starting guys i've never heard of on the offensive line

1076
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: landing young and I don't know good prospect know I

1077
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: know about it's not good. I mean, you take Alvin

1078
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: Kamara out of the lineup. You know, the lineman obviously

1079
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: a huge deal. The quarterback, even though you know Winston

1080
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: is who Winston is still an upgrade over Trevor Simmons.

1081
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: But you take Kamara out. This is a very ordinary

1082
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: team at that point. And they get healthier, I don't

1083
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: I think they're still gonna be in this They gotta

1084
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: get health in. This version of the Saints is just

1085
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: not dynamic. And now they've lost three straight games since

1086
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: the Winston a c L injury. They got a tough

1087
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: schedule ahead we talked about on Thursday, and I just

1088
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: want to say one thing on the Eagles. Half a

1089
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: game out by the way of the last spot right there,

1090
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni on his quarterback Jalen is a special player

1091
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: who forces defenses to play different. You look at their stats,

1092
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: but you also want to do what you do well.

1093
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: They I think they're starting to feel in that building

1094
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: that they have found a guy here that they could

1095
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: build an offense around. Here. Here's what's so huge about that,

1096
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: because assuming Wentz plays like another game, which you will,

1097
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: it's like they have three first round picks and instead

1098
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: of having to go do the thing where we don't

1099
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: like our quarterback. We have to go shop for someone else.

1100
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: You now have three first round picks to make the

1101
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: Eagles about so much by so many derivations better than

1102
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: they are right now and surround. Jalen hurts if he

1103
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: continues to be the guy. All right, let us head

1104
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: to Seattle next, where the Seahawks desperately needed to win

1105
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: a game. But he didn't realize that Colt McCoy would

1106
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: be playing second and goal on the two shotguns. Snap

1107
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: to McCoy, balls loose on the ground, he picks it up,

1108
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: throws over the middle. Hey, it's caught for a touchdown

1109
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: by Urds. Oh my, Colt McCoy picking up a loose

1110
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: ball on the turf and throwing a pass over the

1111
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: middle for a big touchdown. Here late in the first half,

1112
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: Culton Lacoy to God, Calton Sessler's namesake delivered another trenchant performance.

1113
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: The second of three weeks is Kyler Murray's injury replacement

1114
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals over the I know everybody's been waiting

1115
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: for it. I've been getting a tweets. I've been waiting

1116
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: to break it out. But it's that time of year.

1117
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: Over the moribund Seattle Seahawks at loumin Field McCoy three

1118
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns. Mark, I know you're proud of you. Boy.

1119
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: This lifted my spirits because, like, here's the thing, this

1120
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: would have been a great opportunity for the Cardinals to

1121
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: have an excuse over the last three weeks to go

1122
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: into the tank to some degree and say we'll get

1123
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: ourselves out of it. But we didn't have Kyler Murray,

1124
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: we don't have DeAndre Hopkins. And call McCoy, you asked

1125
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: him to come in and play three starts. One of

1126
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: them was a mess, but two of them have been

1127
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: nothing short of heroic. And today he just showed you

1128
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: that when you have that backup quarterback, not the most

1129
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: athletic guy on the planet, not you know, they used

1130
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: to call him nood alarm. Well, you know what, it

1131
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit better than that. Today he just

1132
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: showed command of the offense. And there is what I

1133
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: thought the tone senter right out of the gate, a

1134
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: six team play, sixty eight yard nine minut a touchdown drive,

1135
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: the longest drive of their season in terms of plays

1136
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: and time off the clock. And then he answers down

1137
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: the road with another thirteen play ninety two yards six

1138
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: minute touchdown drive. Zach Ertz was all over the place

1139
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: for him, and it's it really became Cult McCoy battling

1140
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals kicker Matt Prator, who I don't know what Matt

1141
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Prator did pregame, but man, he was all over the place.

1142
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: He's a good kicker in general. Miss, I don't I'm

1143
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: just saying he did not seem to be um in

1144
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: the right headspace. He had a he had a missed

1145
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: p a t he had this is on the road.

1146
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: He had a killer miss field goal. He did hit

1147
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: one a fifty plus at one point, but then missed

1148
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: another field goal. So he cost them seven points in

1149
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: a game where the Seahawks were climbing back into this thing,

1150
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: and it forced Colt McCoy up sixteen to thirteen to

1151
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: take them on another drive. He hits zach Ertz on

1152
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: a twenty yard or and then at one point he

1153
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: rumbled Cult McCoy for an eleven yard chain moving first

1154
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: down that I thought it was a bigger scramble than

1155
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's had all year. I mean, Colin are is,

1156
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, infinitely more of the athlete. It's not a

1157
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: shot fired more than just Colt McCoy did everything you

1158
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: could have asked it forty minutes of time of possession,

1159
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: and it it revealed basically the fact that Seattle at

1160
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: this point, not only do I feel good about having

1161
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: forked them a month ago, they are a low wattage board.

1162
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: They look totally out of ideas, and I think Pete

1163
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: Carroll was quite annoyed after it. Let's hear from Pete,

1164
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: who at one point left his presser only to return.

1165
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: He can't make sense of, Wow, I'm just not any

1166
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: good at this. You know, I'm not prepared for this.

1167
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: This is not this. I'm I'm struggling to do a

1168
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: good job of you know, coaching when you when when

1169
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: you're getting your butt kicked in the weekend and weekend,

1170
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just it's new territory. So um,

1171
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: and I'm competing is in every way I can think of,

1172
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: But um, I'm just unfamiliar with that. Sounds like to

1173
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: me like a coach who now is starting to see

1174
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: his mortality, at least in Seattle, like he knows now,

1175
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: not only is my team on the ropes at three

1176
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: and seven, with a very strong chance of missing the

1177
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: playoffs for just the second time in a decade. He

1178
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: also knows he's in trouble now because the wheels are

1179
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: coming off and there's uncertainty with the superstar quarterback and

1180
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: the relationship between the team and the quarterback is not right.

1181
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: I think Carl senses he's in danger at the same time,

1182
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: just the general frustration of a season where he can't

1183
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: get this team motivated to play well. You've lost the

1184
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy two straight years. Remember he was with the

1185
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: Giants last year, went in there, uh dk Metcalf gets

1186
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: thirty one yards on eight targets. Russell Wilson's led them

1187
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: to thirteen points total in two weeks, ends up with

1188
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: two d and seven yards no touchdowns. It's crazy, and

1189
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: I think it's just realizing how outclassed you are right

1190
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: now in this division to to to get bodied by

1191
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Colt McCoy and there's no new Copkins. Look,

1192
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: a lot of teams have gotten bodied by the Cardinals.

1193
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks team, who's in primetime two weeks in

1194
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: a row. By the way, after this, let's flex him

1195
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: out a Sunday night in a couple of weeks. But

1196
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: they're against Washington, Monday night at a week like everyone's

1197
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna be watching this. Uh, and it's a it's a

1198
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: long way to climb out of. But you gotta give

1199
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals a lot of the credit. Yeah, I think

1200
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: they're going to number one in the Power right they are.

1201
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: They bailed me out with this one. I'll tell you

1202
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: what fans. Joseph, who you know flamed out as head coach,

1203
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: has been awesome as defensive coordinator. I cannot remember a

1204
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: game in the Pete Carroll Russell Wilson era where that

1205
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: home Seattle stadium was so lustrous with booze. I mean

1206
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: it was as rough as it gets. And uh, that

1207
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: was not with Seattle expect the Cardinals. Just to point

1208
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: out how impressive they've been. They are plus one oh

1209
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: weight in terms of point differential on the road alone.

1210
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: And I did a little scribbling right here during the show.

1211
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: The combined record of the teams they've played eighteen when

1212
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: they're not playing the card So they've destroyed, destroyed good teams,

1213
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: not just the Seahawks. Uh. And after the game, Russell Wilson,

1214
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: and if you're wondering how he's feeling, how the finger

1215
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: is the ball's coming out of my hand. Just fine.

1216
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make any excuses. I'm not an excuse

1217
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Well, well we'll see. The Seattle Seahawks

1218
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble. The Cardinals now get

1219
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: a bye week. On top of this, the fact that

1220
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: they come out of these three games with two WS

1221
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: against the Vision rivals. Now they get a week off,

1222
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: and hopefully for Arizona when they return uh in week

1223
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: their team they will have Kyler and new Coopkins, and

1224
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: there they'll be that much more dangerous. But Colt McCoy,

1225
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 1: there was magic work, magic in the air. I don't

1226
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: know what else you can ask a backup quarterback to do.

1227
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: Then what he's done there is matt to it. I

1228
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: was theorizing downstairs that he added two years to his

1229
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: career in week nine, and then he lost a year

1230
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: to his career in week ten. But now he added

1231
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: two more here. So he's up three years now of

1232
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: making money through just through you know, three games to play.

1233
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna say, like, hey, I'm gonna

1234
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: go to work three days this year, I'll be good

1235
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: on two of them and suck on one. I like that.

1236
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: We gotta get Colt McCoy on the show. We gotta

1237
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: tell him about Colt Sassler. We gotta and maybe it's

1238
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: an offseason show. I don't know if it's there. Seems

1239
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: like we could probably get That's what I'm saying. Then

1240
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: it puts me back to the fanboy scenario where like

1241
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm frozen. I don't know what the question. That's like

1242
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy found like I think we could get Rob Schneider.

1243
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: Not sure I think we can. Anyway, let's take a

1244
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: break in. We'll be right back. Shotgun one back bunch formation. Right,

1245
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: here's the snap Texans sending people. Tammi Hill hit us,

1246
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: he throws, It's picked up by King and out of

1247
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: bounce inside that's one a yard line. The huge takeaway

1248
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: for the Texaeds just stop Tennessee with three on the fourth.

1249
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: You may not recognize that. That the sound of that voice,

1250
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: but that was Mark Vandermere with K I L T

1251
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: with the call go home, minute bell you're drug Entering Sunday.

1252
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: The Texans were the coldest team in the league. They

1253
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: were the hottest, So of course, the Texans snapped the

1254
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: NFL's longest active losing streak by beating the Titans and

1255
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: the longest the league's longest winning streak on a miserable

1256
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: day in Houston, Mark How, and we're gonna get to

1257
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: a great digger. He's gotta answer to this, Well, Daddy

1258
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: did not have primary eyes on this game. But if

1259
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: you asked me how, I'd say that they were depleted

1260
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They're out of weapons. And we've watched

1261
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: this often, Speed challenged the scenario. You want to be

1262
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: your daddy? I am that is I am. I gotta

1263
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: stop calling ourselves daddy. I think generally makes uncomfortable. No,

1264
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: I did it. I forget what scenario I did. And

1265
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: I did it as well at some point. And it's

1266
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: just like it's it's a virus that's spreading. It is

1267
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: a virus that's spreading Delta. It's like the Delta. It's

1268
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: maybe not the worst virus amongst anyway. All right, and

1269
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: then wait, I don't need to hear from hear from

1270
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, Grave Digger, what the hell happened? I know

1271
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: you're you're missing Derrick Henry. I know you're a j Brown.

1272
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: He gets hurt. Is it just an issue where we

1273
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: we've reached the level for Ryan Tittle who had four

1274
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: picks where he just doesn't have anybody to throw too

1275
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: and make plays with. And and now it's starting to

1276
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: show for real. Honestly, I would love to say that

1277
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: that is the reason the Titans offense was so bad,

1278
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't. I mean, Nick west fr kinan

1279
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: had over a hundred receiving yards. Whoever the heck he

1280
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a second year guy, I'm drafted out

1281
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: of Indiana. But um, the Titans outgained the Texans four

1282
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yards two hundred nine, but they turned the

1283
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: ball over five times, twice inside the opposing teams six

1284
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: yard line. Once once was a pick that was actually

1285
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: the Titans were in the red zone and Houston returned

1286
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: it all the way to the six yard line. So

1287
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: that's a huge swing. And then in the second half,

1288
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: the Titans had like three chances. The defense got six

1289
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: straight three announced to close the game. One of them

1290
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: was like four and out technically, so not technically, but

1291
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: the offense Tannehill like every time the offense started driving

1292
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: Tannehill through an interception, that was like, what was that throw?

1293
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: And maybe it was young receivers like des fitz Patrick

1294
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: who was a rookie who was cut after training camp,

1295
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: who has like been on the practice squad all season

1296
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: and finally got elevated last week. He was like yelling

1297
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: at Tannehill, was yelling at Des fitz Patrick before plays

1298
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: like Dees, you got it, you got it, you got it,

1299
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: like you can hear it through the broadcast, and then

1300
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: like he threw a pick on that place. So maybe

1301
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Doz did not get whatever change it was, or I

1302
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's just it was a fluke.

1303
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean you they honestly, they've been luck. They've won

1304
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: a couple of games like this, they didn't look like

1305
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: the better team, so it's almost like they were overdue

1306
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: to get some bad luck. But Marcus Johnson, who was

1307
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: so good last week, got hurt, barely played, who knows

1308
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: if he'll be available for next week. And then A. J.

1309
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: Brown was in and out and I don't think he

1310
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: finished the game either. He's probably gonna miss a couple

1311
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: of weeks, Like they'll probably old amount through the by

1312
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: which is two weeks away. There's like Twitter doctors who

1313
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: are trying to diagnose the injury, but obviously you can't

1314
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: want to trust them. What about the Twinkle Toes line

1315
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: or monsters. You know, there's a lot of dissent on

1316
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Twitter about the name. And I think we went from

1317
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: a unified front too, not unified in it, the team

1318
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: felt the effects of it. I like that theory. And

1319
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: how about if you would have told me the Texans

1320
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: would have played the Titans the Titans today and Tyrod like,

1321
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: oh oh the Texans one oh, Tyrod was had a

1322
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: big game and you know he know, he had average

1323
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: four and a half yards per tempt So it's not

1324
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: like they were you know, run Ranford did run for

1325
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: two turnovers. Just gonna blow up any plans who failed

1326
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: fourth down conversions deep in Houston territory. So that's like

1327
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: seven turnovers. How about this, though, the Texans have forced

1328
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: ten turnovers in the last two games. That's that's outrageous.

1329
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: That's gotta be more than some teams have forced all year.

1330
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: That is more than the Steelers, the forty niners. See

1331
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: how Jets ravens Jaguars at Forest all year. That's insane.

1332
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: The Cully carry over the Culli They were talking about

1333
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: it on the broadcast. How Romeo Cornell got this defense

1334
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: locked in over the bye week or something like years old,

1335
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: and they get the Patriots next with like like two players.

1336
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: That's that's on my radar. By the way, I don't

1337
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: have as much rage towards the Patriots as I used to.

1338
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady leaving really did change some things, I think.

1339
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: But you seem to be catching these teams at a

1340
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: good time, Greg, You gotta admit it, right, Yeah, I've

1341
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: noticed this pattern they keep like right before teams playing

1342
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots. It's like, you know, they get hacked on

1343
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: by machetees or there's viruses through a wood chip or

1344
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: now deal with New England. You know that every time

1345
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: we count out the Titans, they deliver a big beforeance.

1346
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: This would be classic Titans to bounce back in a

1347
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: huge way. Everyone. They bought themselves a lot of rope,

1348
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean they I mean, you're still essentially three games

1349
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: up on the Cults, but you're allowing the other teams

1350
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: to get into this. Number one is your best, that's

1351
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: for sure. Are you worried about the Cults a little bit?

1352
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want

1353
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: to see them in the playoffs also swept them. Yeah,

1354
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna take. They have to take

1355
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: three games. They have to do three games better than

1356
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: the Titans over the last six. So that would be

1357
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: all it takes is the Patriots beating the Titans next week.

1358
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: And you and the Titans have already let go of

1359
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: that number one seed. Yeah, the number one seed. That

1360
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: thing happened, That would happen quickly, so that that game

1361
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: is a big a. You have a member Dan's point

1362
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: about road teams thriving. You almost don't want to have

1363
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: home field advantage, according to where can you do? Can

1364
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: you do some calculating and see how home teams did

1365
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: this week? Uh, let's move on. Or a grave digger

1366
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: somebody behind the glass? Uh, you comported yourself. Well they're justin.

1367
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Charlotte. Stop steps up his left,

1368
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: get through the tackle. That's on running now it's to

1369
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: stop at the forty goes out to talk those bagger

1370
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: rock his body. That is hot. Unbelievable, boy, shot to

1371
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: the thirty six. To sit your game in the first down. Oh,

1372
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,839
Speaker 1: double bongos? What are we doing? Taylor does hears those bongos?

1373
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: He does Bram Weinstein with the call w T Bram

1374
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: Weinstein always Michael Stein, but I who knows Taylor Heineke

1375
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: the upstage Cam Newton even for two d six yards

1376
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns against the defense that was ranked the

1377
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: best in football entering the game, and uh Washington spoils

1378
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Camp's return to Bank of American Stadium for the w

1379
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: f T over c A R. Greg. I don't know

1380
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: what Washington's long term plans are at QB, but Taylor

1381
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: Heineke is making a case with games like these. The

1382
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: last two weeks he's been awesome and this was the

1383
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: best game of his career. He led the league today

1384
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: an average depth of target and yet he only had

1385
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: six in completions. We don't normally play like a fourth

1386
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: and three six yard game, but if you haven't seen

1387
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: that highlight, that play was ridiculous. It was such a

1388
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: FARV type play and it typified this game because right

1389
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: before that, there was a third and twenty one where

1390
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: Heineke throws a dart for eight team. They rush up.

1391
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: No indecisiveness from riverboat Ron at all. I'm gonna let

1392
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: Taylor make a play, and for the second time on

1393
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: a big fourth down he makes a crazy play. He's

1394
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 1: been great on third and fourth down, And I contrast

1395
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: that to Matt Rule, who just earlier a little bit later,

1396
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: I think in the fourth quarter, Um hems and haws

1397
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: and and the crowd starts booing because he's gonna punt

1398
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: on fourth down. And then he wastes all this time

1399
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: and then he takes the time out, wasting time out

1400
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: he needed after wasting the thirty seconds, and then they

1401
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: don't get the fourth down either, and it was like

1402
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: riverboat Ron decisive. Taylor Heineke amazing. Kim Newton played great

1403
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: in this game, a great maybe an overset. Kim Newton

1404
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: played well, He played plenty well enough to win, and

1405
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: yet Heiniki was easily the best quarterback. I yeah that,

1406
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I locked up the Panthers. I felt really

1407
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: good about it, even better early on in the game.

1408
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Panthers, it's like, geez, you

1409
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,520
Speaker 1: you had all this momentum and you have this opportunity

1410
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: against Washington and just to get beat in a game

1411
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: where your defense can't get stops, that's disappointing. I mean,

1412
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: they kind of Again, the NFC is so wide open,

1413
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: just like the a f C, that the fact that

1414
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: they're five and six doesn't take him out of contention,

1415
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: but it makes you again wonder, all right, you know

1416
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: it's time to pump the brakes a little bit because

1417
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: this team might not be ready to make that row.

1418
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: It's got a thrill Ron Rivera to on the final

1419
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: two drives of the of the game for for Carolina

1420
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: to shut him down on fourth down both times. I mean,

1421
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: it's just like this is un played well. But then again,

1422
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: he did have they did have a chance to last

1423
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, and he couldn't get

1424
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: it done. The Ron Rivera experience, if you go back

1425
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: through multiple seasons in Carolina, we've seen we saw it

1426
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: last year in Washington. It's like, let's start too and

1427
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: seven and then we'll start. Then we'll kick into high

1428
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: gear and make the playoffs. But in Carolina, I feel

1429
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: like there were like multiple campaigns or like they'd get

1430
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: off to a terrible start and then rally and it's

1431
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: like Ron Rivera is obviously the coach of the future.

1432
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: You stick with everyone else and I do the same

1433
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: thing the next year. But this I think part of

1434
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: the problem with Washington wasn't just the defense that was

1435
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: so off. Critiqued the offense was so out of sync.

1436
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: They haven't had Curtis Samuel all year long. They just

1437
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: haven't had the dudes and heinek The one thing about him,

1438
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: I think if there's something about watching him that is exciting,

1439
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: there's an element of daring due to his game. I

1440
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: I hate the gun slinger terminology for quarterbacks, but he

1441
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of has that energy to him and he hits

1442
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: throws and he's and when he makes a mistake, he'll

1443
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: just keep doing it and I keep throwing it. And

1444
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: he was fun to watch. He was getting love after

1445
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: the game from some of the Panthers too, who were

1446
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, ex teammates of his. His first start as

1447
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback was with with Carolina revenge for him, not

1448
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: just Ron Rovert, and they were just kind of they

1449
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: were just saying, that guy's a dog. Yeah. Scott Turner

1450
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: had a great day. The offensive coordinate. For watching that,

1451
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: that was very surprising to me to see their offense

1452
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: control of the game. I expected more out of the

1453
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: Carolina defense. They had a masterful end to the first half,

1454
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: started the second half sequence where they have a six

1455
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: minute touchdown drive that took all the time off to

1456
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: end the first half. Then another six minute touchdown drive

1457
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: to start the second half, and you're kind of like, oh,

1458
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: what just happened here? And Cam came back and everything,

1459
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: but scary Terry had one of his best games of

1460
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: his career, and Antonio Gibson, I think looks a little

1461
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: more spry than he did when he was fighting injury earlier.

1462
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit that came up I

1463
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: think on the Thursday show with p J Walker play

1464
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: at all in this game and he I don't think

1465
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: he did, and he didn't at all, and they said

1466
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: the plan was too but they thought Cam was playing well.

1467
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: And after the game, one thing I guess the last

1468
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: thing that will come to somebody that's absorbing a new

1469
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: playbook is the two minute offense and that it kind

1470
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: of set up games scriptwise poorly for Carolina where they

1471
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: needed that last UH drive and Camp didn't have the

1472
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: full playbook at his disposal. They did not move the

1473
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: ball late in that game. So tough loss for the Panthers.

1474
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: UH and Washington's battling UH the only one game came

1475
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: out of the wild. Yeah, it is, it is crazy,

1476
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: It is stupid, but ultimately fun. Let's move to Duval

1477
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: here's a gun run to Deebo Samuel coming left right

1478
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: at ward breaks a tackle down the sideline. Deebo Samuel

1479
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:39,480
Speaker 1: will take it all the way in textown San fran Cisco.

1480
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: On that a lot of sauce. Greg Papa with the

1481
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: call k n BR. Jimmy Garoppolo threw two touchdown passes

1482
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: in the third straight game. Debo had another touchdown on

1483
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: the ground. What a year he's having. Four doowners dominate

1484
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 1: the Jaguars thirty to ten, their third win in four weeks.

1485
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: Mark's felt like a possible letdown game for the Niners,

1486
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: but San Francisco took care of its business and impressive fashion. Yeah.

1487
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: I picked this game second in our draft, and you know,

1488
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people telling me that I

1489
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: was nuts to do so, but I knew what I

1490
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: wanted to see. I wanted to see if they could.

1491
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: Haters were out for you. You know what, we look

1492
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: at it. Listen, when you when you know what you want,

1493
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 1: you just go after it. You don't, you don't risk anything.

1494
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: Incredibly gutsy locks. So congratulations on that as well. We'll

1495
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: look at they did me wrong last week, but now

1496
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: our relationship is totally repaired, because this is one of

1497
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: the teams that I went into the year wanting to love,

1498
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: and my love is starting to return and grow a bit.

1499
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: But I wanted just to see would anything translate from

1500
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: that RAMS game or was that just a you know,

1501
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: one of these fluke scenarios. Opening drive once again. Forty niners,

1502
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: twenty plays, eight seven yards, thirteen plus minutes. The first

1503
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: quarter was over and like maybe twenty one minutes, and

1504
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: I was like, it was just fascinating to watch deep Samuel.

1505
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that one touchdown. He led the team

1506
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: with seventy nine yards on eight carries on the ground.

1507
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: They basically used them out of the backfield as a

1508
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: running back, and they're banged up in the backfield, so

1509
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: they they absolutely slaughter Jacksonville inside the numbers, that's what

1510
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: they've been doing. But they had touchdown drives of eighty,

1511
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: seventy seven and seventy seven yards. And the Jaguars offense

1512
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer, you know, basically called it out after

1513
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: the game himself. It they there's there's no growth in

1514
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: this offense. And and and Trevor Lawrence at the end of

1515
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: the game is interesting to see a shot of him

1516
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: with his arm around urban Meyer and not you know,

1517
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: they in a friendly way. I think they both know.

1518
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: They're just they're in for it. It's along. It's it's

1519
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna be as long as possible for the rent the

1520
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: rest of the season, because the hope was maybe Jacksonville's

1521
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: defense is rounding into something special. Not today, I mean

1522
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: that that narrative is over for a week. With Devo

1523
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: and watching his great season, It's been an all pro

1524
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,440
Speaker 1: level season for Deebo Samuel. That's when like Kyle Shanahan

1525
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: and he's had his ups and downs, obviously, but where

1526
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: having a really like smart um creative play caller, when

1527
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 1: you have a and you have a very unique talented

1528
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: player like Deebo, when those things come together and you

1529
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: see what you're seeing there because he the way he's used,

1530
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: you get the feeling Deebo Samuel's special abilities are being

1531
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: used to their maximum efficiency in this offense. It's nice

1532
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: to see it that way. Um like Brandon Auk, like

1533
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: who was in the doghouse and there's a lot of

1534
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: weird stuff going on with him. He's changed and he

1535
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: had seventy eight yards in a touchdown any so he's

1536
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: added to the offense like he just wasn't part of

1537
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty good over the last month or so. When they

1538
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: play like this and they run the ball like this,

1539
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: they had place to four at one point. Well this

1540
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: I feel like this probably happens to the Jaguars a lot.

1541
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: But they had fourteen first downs while the Jacks had

1542
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: twelve total yards midway through the second quarter. It was

1543
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: just like game over, go eat a sandwich. Alright, So

1544
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they stay in the picture in the NFC

1545
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: West as the Seattle Seahawks fall further out, Let's close

1546
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: things up with a trip to the darkest recesses of

1547
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: the a f C East to a pressure gets away

1548
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: to throw keep for all. He's got fifteen ten and

1549
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: he's out the five yard Oh, he's stayed in down.

1550
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: He tiptoed down the end. They say he's inbound. The

1551
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: look at this, of course, but a sixty five yard touchdown.

1552
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cefalo, Jason Taylor, Joe Rose all on the call

1553
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: there for w q A m uh to a toungo

1554
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: by Loa connected on a long touchdown to mccollins, and

1555
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: he threw the go ahead five yard touch up past

1556
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: the miles gascon early in the fourth quarter final score

1557
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: seventeen Jets ball to the Dolphins at the meadow Lands.

1558
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: That's three straight wins for the Miami football team. They got,

1559
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, even they have a pulse. How paulse however

1560
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: faint it may be, in the a f C playoff race, hmm,

1561
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: two was good by the way, seven thirty three to

1562
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: seventy three touchdown passes. He had an interception that wasn't pretty,

1563
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: but that's part of the two experience. Uh. In general,

1564
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: I think his audition I'm giving him so far through

1565
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: like sophomore season. I'm giving him like you got a

1566
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 1: factor in the injuries because their ability that is a skill.

1567
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a B minus so far. I don't

1568
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: know what it needs to get to for them to

1569
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: get out of the deshaunt. You give out a lot

1570
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: of B minus. I do remember on our show you

1571
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: would give us a post so great, a lot of

1572
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 1: it's definitely I think it's above C plus and I

1573
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's a solid B yet. It's a B minus.

1574
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get and now we're getting scientific.

1575
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get to A minus to

1576
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: keep them out of the Deshaun Watson sweep steaks, so

1577
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go on a tear here. They

1578
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: have an intense wandering eye and so like B minus

1579
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: or let's see if it's out of a hundred, he

1580
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: gets like an eighty six to finish the SEC. No,

1581
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: he's got quarterbacks somewhere else they think is a ninety six.

1582
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: And you mentioned they have a pulse. But it's interesting

1583
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: how the top of the NFC is much better. But

1584
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: if you if you look at the wild card race

1585
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: in the a f C versus the NFC, it's actually

1586
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: more open. In the NFC. The Dolphins are still three

1587
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: games in the lost column behind Chargers, Bengals, Buffalo, which

1588
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: right now is five six seven, And so it's kind

1589
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: of a it's a big amount. That's why you and

1590
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: I differentiate because I think every team the AFC stinks, right,

1591
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, but they have more teams

1592
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: to climb over, and they're like, oh what about the Patriots?

1593
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: What about them? And now they all stink different. There's

1594
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: no way to judge what's gonna happen. They can somehow

1595
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 1: get in. Uh yeah, they got the Panthers, Giants and Jets.

1596
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: There is a way in if they can. Okay, I'm

1597
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: talking about Thursday. How about that Elijah More if you

1598
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: want to on the Jet side, and Joe Flacco is

1599
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: now the fourth quarterback to play for the team this year.

1600
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: What a joke season? If um, Zack Wilson sits out

1601
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: another week. Um, but Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore is the

1602
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: truth that guys, as long as he stays out of

1603
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: the Jets, grinder is going to be a big time player.

1604
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: That draft class in general has a chance to be

1605
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: really good if Zach Wilson can play. But the only

1606
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 1: way we can know of Zach Wilson could play is

1607
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: if he actually plays. And let's hope that he is

1608
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: back in the lineup soon because otherwise there's really no

1609
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: reason to watch the Jets. Yeah, I can't. I can't.

1610
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately angry. I'm not I'm actually not right, you

1611
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: know that part of the season. Jets right now have

1612
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick in the draft with their

1613
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: own pick and the number five via Seattle. Is not

1614
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: feeling good right now. Alright, I don't want to see

1615
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson get Josh Rosen. No, that's not happening. I

1616
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: don't believe, but you know, we'll see, all right, Hey, Ricky,

1617
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: By the way, that was pretty crazy. The halftime. They

1618
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: did this great salute to service halftime show and they

1619
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: brought out the veterans and it was the six major

1620
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: military branches in the flag eggs were out. And then

1621
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: this dude. They throw it up to this dude in

1622
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: the concourse and he's an artist who's also a singer,

1623
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,440
Speaker 1: and he does a like an America, the beautiful rendition

1624
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: of the song while painting, and Me and Ricky are

1625
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out what he's doing. It looks

1626
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: like a mess. It looks like he's not gonna pull

1627
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: it off. All he's singing and painting, and then something

1628
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: special happened. Oh my god, this was so we're You

1629
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: and I are talking to each other like, oh my god,

1630
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: the song is finishing up. He'd better finished, like he's

1631
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of time. Looks like like we're like,

1632
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: what the heck, what the heck? And then when he

1633
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: flipped the painted flipping You and I were screaming it

1634
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: was it was an American eagle, and Dan and I

1635
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: you would have thought it was the coolest thing. And

1636
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: then Mark thought we were joking, Like you thought we

1637
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: were being just jerks, but we legitimately like in that moment,

1638
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: it was the most impressive feat I had seen in

1639
01:22:52,000 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: the filming. Yeah, why no one else can? It has

1640
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: nothing to make it? Did you know it was an

1641
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: eagle ahead when he was painting it? Let me answer

1642
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: for Greg. I wasn't even watching. I don't know. I

1643
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: mean I was eating. I was eating lunch or dinner

1644
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: with Tyler Dragon, our old friend, But I was not

1645
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: aware of the entertainment. Mark Mark knew exactly what it was.

1646
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: So that's why he thought we were being jerk because

1647
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: he was like we they thought he thought we were

1648
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: making fun of not not in a not in a

1649
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: way where I was like, look at me versus youtuo.

1650
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: But I thought you guys were being kind of like

1651
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: snarky about the fact that because the action was unbelievable.

1652
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: I think he was hold, yeah, look I lacked lots

1653
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: of skills, but like that that thing like I saw

1654
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: when he was making I said to you guys, why

1655
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: like that, there's an upside down eagle And it was

1656
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: ll But you would have thought they just told us

1657
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: like we had one a million dollars like, I don't

1658
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: know what made us to react like that, but we went.

1659
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: The dude was singing, I'm going to hitting every note

1660
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: painting with his hands and it was upside down. I

1661
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: couldn't see what spends the canvas around in a big spot.

1662
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: One thing that helped me, it's a big win for

1663
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Like there's a there's a rivalry between the

1664
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers game day presentation. That's a that's

1665
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: a incredible thing I've seen. I've been to a number

1666
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: of places where they basically like an artist did the

1667
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: same thing, where it's like they go through the senior

1668
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, what is it? Then they turned the

1669
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: painting around, So maybe my eyes are they singing and

1670
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking. His name is Joe Everson UM and he

1671
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: only has um a thousand subscribers on YouTube and only

1672
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: gets up Joe Everson on YouTube like everybody. Let's everybody,

1673
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: the listeners. If you want to see this guy's work,

1674
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: please go to his YouTube page, comment and say a

1675
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: t N sent you and give the man love. Oh

1676
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: my god, it just ricky. See, I was right there

1677
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: with you. We had a moment. Yeah, we were exactly

1678
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Um, good show. We'll be back

1679
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. A little different week. Obviously, it's Thanksgiving, so

1680
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: we will have our next show on Wednesday, will preview

1681
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: all of week twelve. Thank you for everybody, Thank you

1682
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,480
Speaker 1: to everybody. Until then, he the call