1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number two Clay Travis 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Hope your Tuesday is going fantastically well. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Didn't mention it yet, but I took my boys to 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the Bills Titans game Monday Night football last night in Nashville. 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: I bet there are a lot of chasing Buffalo Bills 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: fans welcome all down to Nashville. Big crowd of them 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: watching that game last night. Spectacular game, of course, one 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: by the good team. Good bad guys lost. Tennessee Titans won. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: My boys absolutely had an incredible time. More full football 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: stadiums everywhere. It is an exhilarating experience. And you know 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the opposite of an exhilarating experience is when Buck and 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: I have seen this happen a lot. You come on 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: and you say, hey, this is going to happen, and 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: it's bad, and then it ends up happening. And that's 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: what's going on right now with the continued assault upon 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: all of American history in this country. I'm a nerd, 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Buck's a nerd. We are both history guys. In our 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: free time, we enjoy reading. I read almost exclusively American history. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: You're a big world history guy, right buck, Like you like, 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: what is your focal point of warfare between the Caliphates 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: and Christendom circa fourteen hundred to sixteen hundred? You know 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: that's I get deep into a clay. I've done a 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: whole podcast on battles from that era. I love it 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: all right. So that is not necessarily a wheelhouse, necessarily 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: subject for most of our audience. But I bet there 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who are like me, 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: civil War nerds. Maybe you're a fan of the American Revolution. 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: You enjoy reading about American history. So I get and 30 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: regularly as somebody who lives in the South and has 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: lived around the Civil War or sometimes as I was 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: called as it was called when I was growing up 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: by my grandparents, uh, the War of Northern Aggression, which 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: is still a term not as used as often but 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: but still sometimes used by old school something. Have you 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: heard people use that? Oh? Yeah, wow, yeah. Growing up, 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: my grandmother grew up in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where our friends 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: at Legacy Box are. I spent a lot of time 39 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga, down near the Tennessee Georgia border. My grandparents. 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: Could you know they had grown up talking to Civil 41 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: War soldiers a lot, right, I mean they were born 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: right at the turn of the century. And my grandmother 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: was still angry about having her family having to hide 44 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: cows from the Yankees when they came down into the Chattanooga, 45 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee area during the Civil War on their way down 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. So so yeah, like this is living memory 47 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: in some way. I remember talking to my grandfather about 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: in his youth sitting around with the old guys at 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: his church who had been Civil War soldiers and them 50 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: telling all the war stories and him kind of sitting 51 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: around listening to them. So lived memory. And so as 52 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: a kid growing up, I was fascinated by the Civil War. 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: I went to all the battlefields, studied it. And so 54 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: the idea of tearing down Civil War monuments or statues, 55 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: to me, strikes in a particular way. And buck this 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: for me became a big issue. At one of my 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: alma maters, Vanderbilt University, they paid millions of dollars to 58 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: sandblast the word Confederate off of a building. They had 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: a Confederate memorial hall that had been constructed on campus. 60 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: At the end of the nineteenth century, and just in 61 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of years they paid millions of dollars 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: to sandblast the word. Now it's just a memorial hall. 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't say Confederate Memorial Hall and anymore. And I 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: wrote about this. I ended up I had a sponsorship 65 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: deal with Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels pulled their sponsorship deal 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: from me because I said that I compared it to 67 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: a racing history. I said, this is what the people 68 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: that we claim to be fighting against, the Taliban, for instance, 69 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: they erase history. Right. The idea that you're going to 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: wipe a word off of a building, to me is crazy. 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: By the way, there's always limitations on this stuff too, 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: and for anybody who wants and the university context. You know, 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: they just changed my school mascot. So I went to 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Amherst College in Massachusetts, a small school, not you mass Amherst, 75 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: that was down the road. But we know those guys 76 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: and gals too. But they changed the mascot because it 77 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: had been the Lord Jeff, who was actually a British 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: colonial lord. So there would be a guy in all 79 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: the football games dancing around in like breaches and the 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: you know the you know the whole the redcoat uniform, 81 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: so to speak. That's kind of what the guy looked like. 82 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: They got rid of it though, because allegedly, I mean, 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: they didn't even really understand epidemiologies. I don't know how 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: this is possible. But the stories that he gave blankets 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: with smallpox to the natives, I mean, I don't I 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: don't think this was ever proven. I think that, you know, 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: I think that there's a little bit of a jumping 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: to conclusions here, But nonetheless, because they didn't understand microbiology, 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: so how would he even know that. But maybe if 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: you had people, you know, that had the blankets. The 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: point is they made it now I think it's the 92 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: mammots like the big elephant. But you know, places like Yale. 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: Yale got rid of what was a Calhoun, right, they 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: changed Calhoun Hall again because of the connection of the Confederacy. 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Here's the problem that Yale universe. It wasn't even by 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: the way, Calhoun a connection to the Confederacy because he 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: was dead by the time of the Civil War. It 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: was that he was a slave owner, I'm sorry, which 99 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: is the same, which is the same applied it at 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Yale himself. I believe Elie Who or however you pronounced that. 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: This is what I was going to say. He is 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: a slave trader. The Yale University is named for Alie Who. 103 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: Yale a slave trader. And they're never going to change 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: the name of the university because you say never, but 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: I don't even know that that's true, but because an 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: interesting But here's why. It's not because of some principle. 107 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: It's because of the value of the brand association. And 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: they simply, you know, people forget Princeton I think was 109 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the College of New Jersey at one point. Trust me, 110 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: they're not going back to that name. They're going to 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: stay at Princeton University. Yale University is essentially a hedge 112 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: fund where you can take classes. Now it's a nont 113 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: of money with tens of billions of dollars, and they're 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: not about to change their university to the University of 115 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, southern Eastern new Haven. I don't know where 116 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: it is in New Haven. But the point is they 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: know that the limitation is the value of their name brand. 118 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: They're never going to change that, so then why go 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: through this nonsense. It's never enough, is the point. It 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: will never be enough. No that's one hundred percent right. 121 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: And so in your home city of New York, they 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: have been honoring Thomas Jefferson with a statue inside of 123 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the New York City Council chambers. I believe, buck is 124 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: that where this city council, the city Council had a 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: statue of Thomas Jefferson, they have now removed it because 126 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: they believe that Jefferson's values and by Jefferson's values, they 127 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: mean he lived in Virginia and owned slaves. And let 128 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: me just say this too, by the way, the thing 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that's so frustrating about the Civil War and the way 130 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: people talk about it, whatever state you were born in, 131 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you pretty much fought for that side in the war. 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: So this idea that people were sitting around and making decisions, Hey, 133 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: am I going to fight for the North or the South? Well, 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: if you grew up in the South, you fought for 135 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: the South by and large, there were a few exceptions. 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: And if you fought and if you grew up in 137 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the North, you fought for the North by and large 138 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: there were a few exceptions. Okay, So which side you 139 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: fought for was a choice of geography which you yourself 140 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: did not make, because most people did not travel very 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: much outside of their native states in their whole lives 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: at that time. Your state was like your country. Okay, 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: So Trump was right about this, This is something and 144 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I believed it when he said it, and I knew 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: that he was right. And so many people buck you 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: remember this, So many people came out and said, oh, 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: he's an idiot. They're never gonna come for Washington, They're 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: never gonna come for Jefferson. But I want to play 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: you this clip. I believe this is from right around 150 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the Charlottesville incident where you had the very fine people 151 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: why And I think Trump was one billion percent in 152 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the right here, regardless of your politics. He knew that 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to stop with Robert E. Lee, that 154 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to stop with Stonewall Jackson or any 155 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: other Confederate generals and their statues. Listen to this. Many 156 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: of those people were there to protest to take him 157 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: down of the statue of Roberty Lee. So this week 158 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: it's Roberty Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson's coming down. 159 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: I wonder is it George Washington next week? And is 160 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, You really 161 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: do have to ask yourself where does it stop. Was 162 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: George Washington the slave owner? Are we going to take 163 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: down statues to George Washington? What do you think of 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Okay? Good? Are we going 165 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: to take down the statue because he was a major 166 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: slave owner? Now we're gonna take down his statue? By 167 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: the way, he was not only He's correct here, Clay, 168 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: And what he's getting at is, as we know, the 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: progressives are incrementalists all the time, and they love to 170 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: do this. That's crazy. We would never do that. It's 171 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: just this one thing. They do it with COVID, they 172 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: do it with statues, they do it with communism. This 173 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: is their approach to everything. And with Trump here what 174 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: he's saying, you play this out and we're seeing the 175 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: reality of this with the with the left and their 176 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: iconoclassm spasms. The reality is, what can you actually name us? 177 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: You can't give Native American place names anymore twenty thing 178 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: or that's considered an appropriation and essentially memorializing conquest and 179 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: colonial colonial expansionism. You can't name things after the founding 180 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: fathers they had any connection whatsoever to the South or 181 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to slavery or own slaves. So what are we going 182 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: to call all? You start to wonder what is acceptable? 183 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: And then at what point he would say, Okay, you know, 184 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: we all celebrate Abraham Lincoln, and you know Abraham Lincoln 185 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: held the Union together, fought to end or you know, 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: fought the war to end slavery. But where did he 187 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: stand on LGBTQ plus rights? And I don't know if 188 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Lincoln is sufficiently woke by those standards for us to have. 189 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Certainly Lincoln Nebraska's day, he's certainly still racist by modern 190 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: day standards because one of Lincoln's big beliefs was we 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: should send all the slaves back to Africa. Like that 192 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: was one of the things that he believed. Pretty racist 193 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: in twenty first century context. Martin Luther King Buck if 194 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: you go read Martin Luther King, he said that being 195 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: gay was a mental illness and you should be treated 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: by a psychiatrist. That was as a priest in the 197 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. That was not an uncommon belief. So does 198 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: MLK statue have to come down in Washington, DC because 199 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: of those beliefs? Or do we recognize that everyone is 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: a product of their era and that all of us, 201 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: even you and me, buck, even every the greatest human 202 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: who is listening to us right now, is going to 203 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: be flawed by the logic of America or the world 204 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: two hundred years from now. All of us are doing 205 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: things that will be judged to be awful if you 206 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: study history at all, We're all guilty of something that 207 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the future will find us to be wanting of. And 208 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: you have to wonder with all this what the real 209 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: goal is, yes, because I think that's something that often 210 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: gets left out of it. And what you have, I 211 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: mean wokeness, is essentially weaponized political correctness. What we call 212 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: political correctness is you and I were growing up in 213 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: the nineties. But you also have a rewriting of history 214 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: by a really revolutionary or radical vanguard of sorts within 215 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: our own society that seems to want to rebuild society 216 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: not just through extreme equality, but through a form of 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: what you could consider a racial Marxism, that there has 218 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to be a balancing and rebalancing based upon racial inequity 219 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: throughout history, and there has to be this revolutionary lead. 220 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: In the communist context, it would be about class struggle, right, 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: they would be the revolutionary elite, would make sure that 222 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the workers, the proletariat would rise up, they would be 223 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: in charge of society. Now in America, you say, well, 224 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: hold on a second, what is our shared history supposed 225 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: to be? What is the narrative that replaces this? If 226 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: you believe in intersectionality and wokeness, it's essentially some people 227 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: apologizing for the last five hundred years forever and just 228 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: shutting up because they're not allowed to talk about things 229 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: or cultural appropriation, and other groups deciding that they're allowed 230 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to determine what the path of the country will be 231 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: based upon this historical injustice. This is about, I believe, 232 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: buck destroying the foundations of the Constitution and the declaration 233 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of the independence and the founding of this country based 234 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: on the perceived sins of the founders themselves within the 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: context of twenty first century values. Because if you can 236 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: argue Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, all those guys 237 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: were big racists, then you can tear down the foundation 238 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: of the country they created and build something entirely anew 239 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: And I believe that is the ultimate goal. And you 240 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: go after how do you do that? 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What is 267 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: happening at our southern border is an absolute tragedy. We've 268 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: had over one point three million people cross illegally, We're 269 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: on a path to have over two million people cross. 270 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris cause this and their entire 271 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: strategy is ignore it, and they're counting on the corrupt 272 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: corporate media to ignore it as well. So of course 273 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: they fly in the middle of the night because they 274 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: have no defense. Every Democrat who for four years said 275 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: kids in cages, kids in cages, the Biden cages are 276 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: bigger and they're more full than we have ever had 277 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: in this country, and not a single Democrat cares. It 278 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: is an absolute disaster. Ted Cruz Center from Texas totally 279 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: correct here as he tends to be welcome back to 280 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck show the border. As we keep reminding you, 281 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: because it is important, it matters, and you will not 282 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: see coverage of this on CNN. You will not read 283 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: much about it in the Democrat newspapers, and if you do, 284 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: it'll always be about how or a nation of immigrants, 285 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: and they'll take a quote from the m. Lazarus poem 286 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: on the Statue of Liberty as if that's federal law. 287 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: It is not. And they are not stopping this anytime soon, 288 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: not at all. And Clay, you know, the New York 289 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Post had this reporting, has this reporting about flights middle 290 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: of the night chartered flights, all fun about the taxpayer 291 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: dropping off in Westchester County, New York. Hundreds of illegal 292 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: migrant children who come into the country. Remember, the act 293 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: of entering America not at a port of entry is 294 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: a violation of law. So we say it's this is 295 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: these are illegal acts that are going on your violations 296 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: of federal law, and they're distributing them around the country 297 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: and people don't even know about it. Well again, and 298 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I made the pitch buck to my employers at Fox 299 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: News that we need to have an illegal immigration tracker 300 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: on the television screen like CNN an MSNBC did with 301 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: COVID to try to get people aware. Like that was 302 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: their plan, right, COVID fear porn. But it's so easy, Buck, 303 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: and you know this and a lot of our listeners do, 304 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: to get so busy in your day to day existence 305 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: that you forget that tens of thousands of people are 306 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: coming across the border every single week, every week, all 307 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: year long, and eventually that adds up to millions of people. 308 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: And that is a significant assault on American America's border, right, 309 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: And in the fact that we're we a sovereign nation, 310 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: who comes that's right. And the fact that Biden has 311 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: got things going so bad that he's returning to Trump's policies. 312 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: We talked about this last week, to return to Mexico policy. 313 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: We need to continue to hammer this. And also I 314 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts as a New Yorker on 315 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson getting yanked out of your state and your city. 316 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: In the meantime, though I was talking earlier, my mom 317 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: grew up in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and a lot of our 318 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: family memories come from that location, which is where Legacy 319 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Box is based. 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And this is a big 338 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: battle that I think is going on simultaneously. And this 339 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: is why I think this matters so much. In the 340 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: state of Virginia between Glenn Junkin and Terry mccauliffe, who 341 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: is going to win that governatorial race two weeks from today. 342 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: We've got some clips that will play with you, play 343 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: for you over the course of this show in the 344 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: next hour and a half. But I want to ask 345 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: you this buck, as a guy who is born and 346 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: raised in New York City, when you see Virginia state 347 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: that Thomas Jefferson is from represented in the New York 348 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: City Council chambers, you here new York City Council members 349 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: say that Jefferson's ideals are the antithesis of what New 350 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: York City stands for, because that's what they said when 351 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: they pulled his statue out of those chambers. What are 352 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts as a New York City resident and do 353 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: you buy into my idea that this directly connects to 354 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: critical race theory, the tearing down of statues which we 355 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: saw in Richmond, And why so many people in the 356 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: state of Virginia who are going to be going to 357 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: the polls in the next two weeks to choose their 358 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: governor have this battle in the back of their minds 359 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: over what is this country of America about? What do 360 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: we share and how important potentially is the message we 361 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: are sending in what otherwise is a lot of times 362 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: an election that doesn't receive a lot of attention in Virginia. 363 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: New York is obviously very heavily not just democratic, but 364 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: left wing right. Everyone knows that listening to this, although 365 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: as I do remind people, we have a million registered 366 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Republicans in New York City, so there are million people 367 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: that basically voted for Trump and agree with much of 368 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the or all of these sentiments of Clay and I 369 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: are sharing on this show. Who happened to live within, 370 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, basically an hour drive radius of where I'm 371 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: doing this radio show right now. But I think one 372 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: way to put this, and we could go through all 373 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the instances of what I call the iconoclasm spasm, but 374 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, did not have to use an art history 375 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: term or something. We could just say the tearing down 376 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: of the statues. Yeah, I mean, they got rid of 377 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: the Theodore Roosevelt statue, right, not that Theodore Roosevelt was 378 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: a Confederate general. And then now they're starting to say 379 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna move it or we're gonna okay, but we 380 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: all know what's going on here. There's a changing of 381 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the visual reminders. They want to get rid of the 382 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: Columbus circles, they have to have soldiers, I mean soldier, 383 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: not soldiers, but police officers protect that statue basically, right, 384 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: they've had I'm amazed at a different times how many 385 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: especially during the BLM riots that were happening here in 386 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: New York, how many cops they had on that statue 387 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: that we're there just to protect it from being torn down. 388 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: And it's a huge statue. I mean it's very tall. 389 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: It's a major piece of artwork. And I just say this. 390 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: Can you know how if you watch just take a 391 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: step back for a second, if you watch any of 392 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: these shows about a cult, Yeah, there's some pretty straightforward 393 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: steps they put you through. Right, there's some things that 394 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: whether the cult is about you know, aliens landing and 395 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: the cult leader is you know, gonna give everybody some 396 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: secret to a perfect future, whatever it may be, the 397 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: cult tries to take you out of the life that 398 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: you have known, separate you unmore. You create a lack 399 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: of context around you. That's why they always want you 400 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: to separate. They always want you to sever contact with 401 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: family members and friends. They don't want you to have 402 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: any perspective, and they don't want you to have any 403 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: shared bonds with other people who aren't a part of 404 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: this process. And then because you're essentially no longer in 405 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: contact with things that you've known and that have brought 406 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: you unity in a sense of community in the past, 407 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: you seize upon this new community much more. What I 408 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: see happening with the left in this country is an 409 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: intentional program of the destruction of shared American history and 410 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: values in an effort to erase what was there, but 411 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: also to disorient the American people, to make us feel like, 412 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: oh gosh, we can't even celebrate Washington and Jefferson. You know, 413 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: it's like the mom or the dad who's saying, what 414 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: is this weird culture giving all your money to We 415 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: can't have that conversation, right They want you to cut 416 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: that off. When we no longer can celebrate the same heroes, 417 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the same holidays, when we can no longer come together 418 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: and look at the virtues of this country as something 419 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: that we all share, all of us, regardless of whether 420 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: you came here yesterday or you know your family's been 421 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: here for hundreds of years, regardless of your race, your religion. 422 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: If we have none of that, Clay, we're so much 423 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: more susceptible to the brainwashing of wokeness, and I really 424 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: believe to the Marxists essentially determining what the future of 425 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: the country will be. That's what this is at a 426 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: base level. That's what I see happening. And I know 427 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: people say it's crazy, but okay, look what's going on. 428 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: They're pulling the Jefferson statue for heaven six. I think 429 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: that's why we're in the middle of the battle for 430 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: the soul of the country. And what you said, I 431 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: agree with one hundred percent. And what I would add 432 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: on is think about who this makes stronger. And this 433 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: is why I think this is the story that is 434 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: not being told enough. We had the whole Russia collusion. 435 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: Why who benefits from Americans fighting internally the most in 436 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: the entire world. It's China. China is the biggest beneficiary 437 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: of American disunity, of a failure to have a shared purpose. 438 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: We are getting. I really believe this punched in the 439 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: back of the head every day by China. And instead 440 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: of turning around, raising our fists as a country and 441 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: starting to throw punches back at China. And I think 442 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: this was why so Trump was so scary to China. 443 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: We are throwing punches at each other. We're having our 444 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: own internal family squabble, a civil war of sorts in 445 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: this country. Instead of turning around and bowing up to 446 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: China and standing up for American ideals and freedom around 447 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: the world, we are throwing punches at each other. And 448 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: many of our biggest companies are worse than that, bowing 449 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: down to Chairman Z and telling him what else can 450 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: we do to make you happy? Because they are so 451 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: owned by the China dollar. Right now, yeah, Clay, there 452 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: was never a time during the Cold War with the 453 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Soviet amen where never king corporations. We're saying, hold on 454 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: a second, now, Yes, they had journalists, they had you know, 455 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the Academy of University level. There were 456 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: communies who penetrated the United States government. That's a real thing. 457 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Anybody who's never read about or heard about the Venona Project, 458 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I highly recommend they will not teach this stuff in schools. 459 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: The labor unions in this country at the early part 460 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: of the twentieth or i should say the early mid 461 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: part of the twentieth century riddled with Communist sympathizers, riddled 462 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: with American Communist Party members, this was all real, But Clay, 463 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: they never had the most powerful They never had, you know, 464 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: the Ford Motor Company saying, oh, hold on a second, guys, 465 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: we we got to kind of do a little bit 466 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: of a different Soviet foreign policy. There was a great 467 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: piece tied into James Bond. Maybe we could mention this 468 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: when we come back talking about how the newest James 469 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Bond came out. And they basically have ignored China as 470 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: a foe in the whole Bond films. Right, there's essentially 471 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: no negative Chinese characterization, and they've continued to continue the 472 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: old Cold War dynamic where Russia is always the bad 473 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: guy and there's always some because they want the money 474 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: to be made in China. I have a little you know, 475 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: because of the spy movies. People always asked me Buck, 476 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: you were the CIA, what do you think? So I've 477 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: seen a lot of spy movies. I read a lot 478 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: of spy novels, and by the way, most of them 479 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: are posts that are absurd. Unless they're having people freak 480 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: out about the cappuccino machine breaking at Langley, they're not 481 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: really showing you what it's actually like to be in 482 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: the CIA at any point in time. But I'll tell 483 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: you this. There was one and it was a who's 484 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: the Irish guy who Pierce Brosnan? It was a pierced Brosden, 485 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: James Bond. I think it might be Tomorrow never dies. 486 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: But all those pierced brosen in ones kind of melding 487 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: gun except Golden Eye. Golden I was okay, but the 488 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: rest of them all and remember their China was in 489 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: that one. But there was a Chinese agent who actually 490 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: teamed up with James Bond. And the bad guy was, 491 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: of course a British media mogul who was starting a 492 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: war for ratings. Yes, when you think about it, that's 493 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: the best we could do. That's the best we could do. Oh, 494 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: they're terrified of angering China to such an extent that 495 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: even in our pop culture. I mean, think about how 496 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: long it's been since the movie like Seven Years in 497 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Tibet was made where China was a villain in any way, 498 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: America won't even touch it. Well, this is because Hollywood, 499 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: all these movies they're making, especially the reason the superhero 500 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: franchises are so valuable is in part because all that 501 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: cgi and star power translates very well to I mean 502 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: two movies with subtitles are dubbed over movies in the 503 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Chinese market, which is the biggest single market in the world. 504 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Their cultural and economic the Chinese Communist Party's cultural and 505 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: economic hold on this country exceeds what the Soviets had 506 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: of the cold word, it's not even closed. And the 507 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: amount of intellectual property theft and sensitive technology and secret 508 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: stolen by the Chinese Communist Party compared to what the 509 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: remember the Soviets to steal our stuff had to actually 510 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: get people to you know, to film it told exactly 511 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: old school briefcase, weird mustache, you know, dead drop espionage. 512 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party pays a bunch of hackers in you know, 513 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: North Korea or you know, Russian soil, whatever, it's Chinese 514 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: soil and breaks into our stuff, steals the lifeblood of 515 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: the US economy, which is intellectual property advantage. Anyway, you 516 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: can tell Clay and I get fired up about this 517 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: because this is where we're heading, folks, this is the future. 518 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great guest tomorrow on China, friend 519 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: of mine, Elbridge Colby, who is a senior d D 520 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: strategic guy under Trump, focusing on China. We'll talk to 521 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: him about all this seems like the cost of everything 522 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: is going up and fast. That means your dollar may 523 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: be worth less and the value of your savings account 524 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: in IRA won't go as far in the future. One 525 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: way to hold the whole value of protect what you've 526 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: worked hard to save is through the purchase of gold. 527 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I've done it. I know so many of you have 528 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: done it this year too. It's one of the best 529 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: forms of financial protection there is. The Oxford Gold Group 530 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: is who I rely on. They deliver the gold you 531 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: purchase to your home and assuming you have a safe 532 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: place to store it. The value of you taking physical 533 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: possession of gold is second to none. The Oxford Gold 534 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Group makes that easy. They make the purchase of gold 535 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: as part of your IRA simple too. You can talk 536 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: with their friends at the Oxford Gold Group about what 537 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: percentage of gold you invest in and learn from the 538 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: actions of hundreds of thousands doing the same thing this year. 539 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: If you think buying real gold is complicated, my friends 540 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: at the Oxford Gold Group are who you need to call. 541 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Having real gold delivered to your home or having real 542 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: goal as part of your IRA is just a phone 543 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: call away. Call the Oxford Gold Group now at eight 544 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: three three four zero four Gold and learn how you 545 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: can have real gold in your IRA and delivered to 546 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: your door. That's the Oxford Gold Group at eight three 547 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: three four zero four g O l D. Welcome back 548 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: to play Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We were just 549 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: talking about the challenge of China. China. It's Trump Famously, 550 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: i would say many many times during course of his presidency, 551 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: he reoriented US foreign policy towards China in a way 552 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: that no president had in decades. The consensus opinion on 553 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: dealing with China up until the Trump presidency was, Oh, 554 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: don't worry, they'll get wealthier as we allow them access 555 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: to our markets. They'll become more liberal as we work 556 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: with them and allow them to plunder the intellectual property 557 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: of US companies and to engage in predatory trade practices 558 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: of all kinds. But as they get richer and more powerful, 559 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: they will also become more of a Western style democracy 560 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: and a total nonsense, catastrophically wrong. Over the course of decades, 561 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: and now we're dealing with the reality of a near 562 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: peer competitor on the world stage, and also the reality 563 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 1: of a Biden administration that does not seem able to 564 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: handle basic things like keeping toilet paper on the shelves, 565 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: like having cabinet secretaries who show up for their jobs 566 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Here is Jensaki yesterday when I 567 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: asked about a hypersonic hypersonic missile test. Now this is 568 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: there are people who all they do is study missiles. 569 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: This is its own realm people. Oh, you're the CIA, 570 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: you must know a lot about miss missiles. The missile folks, 571 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: this is what they do. They study missiles all day long. 572 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I can tell you the very basics. ICBM kind of 573 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: goes up and comes down. Hypersonic glide vehicle or hypersonic 574 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: glide missile goes a lot lower and stays a lot 575 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: flatter in its trajectory and is therefore much harder to 576 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: track and see on radar. Both are nuclear capable, obviously, 577 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: but we strut to worry about the ability of a 578 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: Chinese technology here to perhaps get beyond US warning systems, 579 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: radar shootdown capability. All of that. Here is Jensaki, because 580 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: she like totally knows about this stuff. Here she is, 581 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: generally speaking, we've made clear concerned about the military capabilities 582 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: that the PARC continues to pursue and we have been 583 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: consistent in our approach with China. We welcome stiff competition, 584 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: but we do not want that competition to fear into conflict, 585 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: and that is certainly what we can vay privately as well. 586 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chinese Communist Party has got to no play. 587 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: This is the weakest opponent across the chess board they've 588 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: seen in a long time. Well, why would we welcome strong, 589 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: stiff competition in potential nuclear war? I mean, I know 590 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: that little red lyinghood as we call her Jensaki, often 591 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: has ridiculously dumb things to say, And to be fair, 592 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: she has a really difficult job because she's surrounded by 593 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: a large level of incompetence and she has to argue 594 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: in favor of things that are manifestly stupid, like Joe 595 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Biden being caught without wearing a mask in a restaurant 596 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: while lecturing all of you about the important of mask wearing. 597 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: But I don't welcome stiff competition in a race towards 598 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: global annihilation. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I draw the line somewhere. Buck. 599 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: If you say, hey, what do you think about the 600 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: idea of mutually assured combat to death? I don't really 601 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: welcome strong competition there. I'm not really thinking, you know, hey, 602 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to just go ahead and both me lopping 603 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: off each other's arms and and everything else. No, I 604 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: don't want stiff competition. I want us to kick the 605 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: ass of every other country. I want dominance. Yes, I 606 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: want America. This is the whole thing when Trump started 607 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: saying make America great again. This notion of an America 608 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: that wants to be, thinks it should be, and does 609 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: not apologize for its number oneeness, if you will, is 610 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: something that we need to bring back here in a 611 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: big time. I do not. I do not get all 612 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: excited about the future of an America full of people 613 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: who think that we need to sit through lectures about 614 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: climate change by Fundberg or whatever. I'm sorry, that's tough 615 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: to get excited about, or the globalist running around talking 616 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: about one world government and how the UN should be 617 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: in charge of all militaries and all this other crazy nonsense. 618 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: You here, I would prefer in America that has first 619 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: and foremost about being number one. I want us to 620 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: kick every other country's ass. I don't want to be 621 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, you don't welcome if your team's in the 622 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl you aren't like, hey, I hope it comes 623 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: down to one play and it could go either way. 624 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: You're like, no, we want to kick your ass, so 625 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I don't want to random official deciding 626 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: this game. I want to kick your ass. I don't 627 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: welcome stiff competition. I welcome ass kickings. That's what I 628 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: would want my Press secretary to be saying. If suddenly 629 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: China has the ability to, as you said, potentially deliver 630 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: a devastating blow to us, and we don't have the 631 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: technological mike to represent its people are saying this is 632 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: a Sputnik moment, when here's the problems China has has, 633 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: in a sense hacked the system. Because they have access 634 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: to markets, the global markets, They've gotten a whole lot richer. 635 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: And they also are completely the Chinese Communist Party and 636 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: the People's Republic of China Army the prc R. They 637 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: are absolutely ruthless about stealing oh intellectual property and technology 638 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: from everyone and anywhere all over the world, re engineering 639 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: things that they take through these degrees. There's so much 640 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: that they have done to get close to us technologically. 641 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: We may not have an advantage over them, folks. In 642 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: five years technologically at all. And it's a really big country. 643 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: Come back and talk about Loudon County and the race 644 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: for the governor's office there that's coming up. It matters 645 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: in a big way. 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