WEBVTT - BLUE KIMBLE - A Story Served Southern Style

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today I have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests, actor, producer, model, and former professional athlete Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Kimberle in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you black? Because I said model, just wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a long title.

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<v Speaker 2>No thank you, crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all your all your You're like a true Jamaican.

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<v Speaker 2>You have all these I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jamaican now, actor, producer, model, professional, former professional athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot yes, and there's a lot of are

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<v Speaker 1>you you're not Jamaican?

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<v Speaker 2>I not Caribbean, big shout out. I'm a Caribbean people.

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<v Speaker 1>What are are you just black?

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<v Speaker 2>Look?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just black?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mutt most black people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>What about yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>For you, I'm one hundred percent much money people. People

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<v Speaker 1>look at me. That's a Puerto Rican, Hispanic, Dominican Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>speaking something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm black, my mother is black, my fault is black.

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<v Speaker 2>But they yeah, my family has a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>other things. The you know, everybody like to claim that

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<v Speaker 2>they Cherokee. Yeah, yeah, got all that. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get into everything, Blue Kimball, I wanna

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're gonna be cooking us for breakfast today?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm well, I didn't even mean to say that breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>but m y, you know. But technically this is my

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<v Speaker 1>first meal of the day. So what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have me eating today? And go through the ingredients in

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<v Speaker 1>the season.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people like to call them struggle plates.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, when you're cooking and you're

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<v Speaker 2>broke and you're struggling. But being from the South, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm from Atlanta, so southern culture, southern heritage.

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<v Speaker 2>You can eat breakfast all day, breakfast for lunch, breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner, come home at the club two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>late breakfast. So this is a struggle plate. We are

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<v Speaker 2>making a sandwich. P s.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's in your sandwich?

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<v Speaker 2>Make no way a sandwich? No, that's not what we said,

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<v Speaker 2>say it right, sandwich A sandwich, hilarious sandwich. Not a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a sandwich and it's gonna have eggs and

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<v Speaker 2>bacon and cheese. But a sandwich can be comprised of

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<v Speaker 2>whatever ingredients you choose. But we gonna do eggs and

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<v Speaker 2>bacon for this sandwich and.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheese and for the sandwich. Do you do your eggs

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<v Speaker 1>scrambled or hard over easy?

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<v Speaker 2>Like either or depends. Sometimes it's scrambled, sometimes you do

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<v Speaker 2>'em hard. You wanna do hard? You from New York?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm New York like hard eggs. They like their eggs hard,

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<v Speaker 2>we do, so we gonna do hard egg okay, cause

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<v Speaker 2>New York is in the building, So yeah, we gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do hard eggs for me. Every everything from New York

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<v Speaker 2>is just hard eggs. Hard. The girls are hard bralic.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been making fun of you guys since he got here,

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<v Speaker 1>so right now, blue hats for all your listeners. He

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<v Speaker 1>already started cooking the potatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a nice addition. So it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a nice hearty breakfast. Go ahead and hardy,

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<v Speaker 1>hardy breakfast, cause you got potatoes. Go ahead and make

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<v Speaker 1>me some breakfast, man, and get into this sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>Times get into it. Like you said, we going to

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<v Speaker 2>oil this pan, you know, with some organic virgin oil.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they say you're not supposed to be U

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<v Speaker 2>vegetable or no more. Right, Yeah, even though we still do,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you still do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. No, I use it only like if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing potatoes or maybe plantings every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but you just said you wasn't Puerto Rican.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jewish and Jamaican.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, wonder you hit me with the Caribbean vibes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>any man with a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Jamaican exactly. And well with multiple jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple jobs, you have a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs, okay. And it looks like you've had a nice journey.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me back to what was going on. Take

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<v Speaker 1>me all the way back to the original, because I know, Salm,

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<v Speaker 1>the sandwich meal can be still be you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can still enjoy that today. But take me back to

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<v Speaker 1>the time when this was a meal of to keep you, keep.

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<v Speaker 2>You full, because it's like that, like you said, during

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<v Speaker 2>the times when you're struggling or whatever and money is

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<v Speaker 2>an issue, crack that egg because you want them hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you gotta you know, reach and and and

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<v Speaker 2>find things that are last. And it's always eggs. Eggs

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<v Speaker 2>is a meal that you that you can buy a

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<v Speaker 2>card and the eggs for the low, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And you can always eat eggs for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>lunch of dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Do back in the day it was for the low.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well not now right. You gotta be balling to

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<v Speaker 2>get eggs now. But back in the day, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. You can get eggs. So anytime, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>money low, you can't get out, you can't eat. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta get some and you know, the men that

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<v Speaker 2>work out want their proteins and this and that eggs

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<v Speaker 2>is that eggs is the good you know, the good protein.

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<v Speaker 2>So at any time you can always.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you take me back to a time when it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was eggs for the low low and you can eat

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<v Speaker 2>eggs all week?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you take me back to a time when it

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<v Speaker 1>was like times were rough most like starting out, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>before you became a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh see, that's the whole thing. People think that just

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<v Speaker 2>because you're a professional athlete, that means you're rich, that

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<v Speaker 2>means you're balling. That means this majority of football players

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<v Speaker 2>are making league minimum, you know minimum. Back then it

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<v Speaker 2>was a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. Right now, I think it may be

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<v Speaker 2>it may be two fifty, but it's still a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that's making league minimum. So after you go

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<v Speaker 2>through that and tax you know, you're getting still gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get taxation and all that. So, yeah, you're playing football,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah you're not rich, you're not balling. You're just

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<v Speaker 2>getting paid to you know, your dream to be a

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<v Speaker 2>professional football player, and you still chasing the dream. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are the names, the people in the

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<v Speaker 2>names that you know, and they're getting paid twenty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year. Mm. But trust me, it's more people

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<v Speaker 2>that's making league minimum than it is. Yeah, people that's

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<v Speaker 2>balling and getting paid all the money and.

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<v Speaker 1>Being being a football uh huh uh NFL player. The

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<v Speaker 1>schedules like what what what does the schedules? It like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent full time, eat, sleep, dr everything. It

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<v Speaker 1>is that what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I I I.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like this, okay. So being you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>the culture, you know, a man and whatever. Most in

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<v Speaker 2>our demographic from the eighties from the nineties, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>too many dreams that I mean not dreams, but too

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<v Speaker 2>many other things that you see people that look like

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<v Speaker 2>you and be like, oh I wanna do that, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanna be that. So that's why it's always sports it's

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<v Speaker 2>always football, It's always basketball, because that's us. That's who

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<v Speaker 2>we see, you know what I mean. Now, in this

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<v Speaker 2>time and in twenty twenty five and going forward, you

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<v Speaker 2>see so many different things. You know, with the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see black lawyers, black doctors, black whatever. Back

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<v Speaker 2>but back then, your superstar, your hero is gonna be athletes. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, we play sports from the beginning. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been playing football, basketball, everything since I was five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was always that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though coming from Atlanta, cause Atlanta has like uh yu,

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<v Speaker 1>black people in almost every seat, you still felt like

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only thing you really saw.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that it's the only thing. It's just the

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<v Speaker 2>simple thing that you gravitate to, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And and yes, big shout out to you for knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that Atlanta has always been a chocolate city, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And we've in comparison that I do

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<v Speaker 2>now that I've lived all over the country and been

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<v Speaker 2>in other cities, and it's such a blessing and a privilege,

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<v Speaker 2>and anybody from Atlanta, I definitely tell you, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>to be raised in Atlanta, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to have the culture like you just

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<v Speaker 2>spoke of, or being able to see so many black

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<v Speaker 2>people doing different things. You know what I mean? We

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<v Speaker 2>h we have that in Atlanta. We always have had

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<v Speaker 2>a rich black culture and people like you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>professional blacks. We have that in Atlanta, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you who.

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<v Speaker 2>We will watch it on TV. You don't what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>The sports and athletes. But no, we have that in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>always have and like I said, to grow up with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you come you meet people from different walks,

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<v Speaker 2>different cities. Like one of my friends is that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the homie now and he's from Kansas, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And he we, you know, sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>do these talks different panels, and he was always just

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<v Speaker 2>the only black person in his class and this and

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<v Speaker 2>that he's surrounded by white people. He's the token black

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to use to use those air quotes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what I'm saying, and a and and

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<v Speaker 2>then we chopped it up and was like damn. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>then you get to talking to people from Atlanta, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite where you didn't see a white person like

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<v Speaker 2>that until you were fifth maybe in the fifth grade

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<v Speaker 2>or middle school or whatever. Like you, we weren't around

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<v Speaker 2>white people. We were raised around a black community, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So, and just to come up

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<v Speaker 2>that way with the rich culture from Atlanta, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing man to know that as a black man, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do more because you've seen it. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like that's some of the mentality and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the energy that's installed in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people from Atlanta. Why so many successful Atlanta people are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It now You've lived in every city you mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're now in the entertainment business. Could you potentially

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it being a you have your friend from Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>who is surrounded by all whites, then you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>prior to Tyler Perry and some of these black names

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<v Speaker 1>really pushing forward with black production, I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>industry was not predominantly ran by black people. Could you

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<v Speaker 1>see it? Could you see that potentially hurting someone that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Atlanta that's not privy to that many other

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<v Speaker 1>races doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Things as I butter your toast, thank you literally yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in saying you brought up Tyler Perry. Big

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<v Speaker 2>shout outs to the big boss, Tyler Perry. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the main reasons that I'm into the industry now because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, he did everything that he did within

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta after I stopped playing ball and going through that transition.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I randomly fell into acting. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>I would have stayed in any other other cities, if

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<v Speaker 2>I would stayed in Florida, Miami, where I was living,

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<v Speaker 2>if I would have stayed in Charlotte, where I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing ball at one point living there, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>doing this now because I moved back to Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta was popping with the film industry, and Tyler Perry

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<v Speaker 2>was taking off of what he was doing, and Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>was becoming the Hollywood of the South because those Avenues

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<v Speaker 2>was there. That's how I randomly fell into this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, before we get into the random randomly fell into acting,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanna go back to you aspiring to be a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete, your householder, upbringing, two parent household, single mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanna know the whole scoop, rich, poor, middle class O.

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<v Speaker 2>What's sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's like that. No. I I I come

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<v Speaker 2>from a two parent household. My mother and father are

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<v Speaker 2>still married, I love that happily in love to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been married for fifty years. Fifty years, fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when do you do you have a a ideal?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh uh, a positive outlook on love because you've seen that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh big time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, so, I'm the youngest of three boys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, And I'm just a old soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody that meets me will say that because I'm raised

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<v Speaker 2>by the elders. I got older brothers, older cousins, older uncles,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, and just all that. So

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I have, I went through it with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them doing it. I'm watching them doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching my older brother bring girls home. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, at a early age. So these things

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<v Speaker 2>impact you or whatever. But like I said, I'm raised

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<v Speaker 2>by men. I come from a boy family. We have

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I don't have a sister. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had one cousin. My eldest cousin was a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest boys like twenty twenty twenty boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins, okay, and then middle class poor.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nobody's rich. There's no such thing. Yeah, two parent household,

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<v Speaker 2>mother and father, you know, doing their thing. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Middle class? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did they do mit?

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<v Speaker 2>Middle class? Meaning whenever they if they did struggle, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know it. Okay, they let us, they they they

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<v Speaker 2>made sure that we were good. Okay, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So I can't attest to the people. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, even though I saw it, and

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<v Speaker 2>growing up more and being around more, you see it

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<v Speaker 2>and understand it. But no, my mother and father never

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<v Speaker 2>let us go without. So we never did the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing of oh, y'all gonna eat air breakfast tonight, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean for dinner. Yeah, you're eating air in water.

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<v Speaker 1>And you never caught wind of anything. Okay, that's that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are you the first? Are you the first and

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<v Speaker 1>only professional athlete in your family? Because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of men.

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<v Speaker 2>Come from a sport family. Like I said, we did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the whole thing. Sports is always there within

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<v Speaker 2>the family and within community. But that's the thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to survive the community before you can be a

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<v Speaker 2>professional anything. You know, you have to survive the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to survive the allure of the stereotypical things

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<v Speaker 2>that black men go through being raised in the hood

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<v Speaker 2>or not in the hood.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what for example, just whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>No. So, like some of the people that were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to make it to the NFL, the NBA, and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't because they didn't survive the streets. Some of the

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<v Speaker 2>best football players in basketball players that I know dropped

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<v Speaker 2>out of high school because the streets got 'em. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't stay down and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>or have two parents taking care of them like I did. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they selling crack or they doing whatever or e x

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<v Speaker 2>y Z. They don't have time to chase the allure

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<v Speaker 2>of the dream. Yeah, I need money right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like that, and all of that happens. And even

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<v Speaker 2>when you come from a situation like mine, you still

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<v Speaker 2>can get caught up. Like I said, my oldest you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to glorify that, but that's what my older brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and uncles did. Yeah, they they were in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>So the allure for that was always there for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a VIP access to the street life if

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I wanted, you know what I mean, Even

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<v Speaker 2>though they wouldn't advocate it for me, it was still there.

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<v Speaker 2>I chose I had to make those choices. I chose

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<v Speaker 2>not to be the stereotypical street guy, and in a

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<v Speaker 2>victim to that situation, I knew that I could do

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<v Speaker 2>more and was capable of more because I watch all

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<v Speaker 2>them and seen when they ane did. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>people get shot, not not, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I mean, yeah, you see, you've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen I've seen the the the the the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the sword, like I said, growing up around

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<v Speaker 2>that and being raised by the others, you see it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you see when it falls apart. You see people

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<v Speaker 2>get killed, you see people go to jail. You see people,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, in the street chasing things that have

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<v Speaker 2>in this and they fall all the way off the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of what can happen. So No, even though

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<v Speaker 2>that was there for me and I coulda would have

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<v Speaker 2>done all that and had those instant I chose not to.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though it was always there, And it's always tempting

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<v Speaker 2>because like you said, you doing something else and you

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<v Speaker 2>going without. You're playing football, you're not getting paid, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to school, you're not getting paid. Your homiees pulling

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<v Speaker 2>up in the damn bens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw a football documentary. I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>a year or two years ago on Netflix, and it

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<v Speaker 1>talked about like what football athletes go through and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then even if even if you beat the odds

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<v Speaker 1>of turning down sex, drugs, and alcohol before making it,

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<v Speaker 1>once you make it, those vices come ten I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine ten times harder because now you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you see I putted it as it and it

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<v Speaker 2>looks so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're making two sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 2>Right but this was yours. It gets mine after you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that. I'm gonna judge his breakfast. But

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<v Speaker 1>right now it looks good. It looks like he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. Guys, So after you make it, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine the vices come harder for you. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>now you're dealing with in or or you know whatever, just.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that. I mean, of course those things are there, so,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, going through those struggles or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're you don't just become a s a star.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have the potential to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL and all this stuff, nine times of the ten

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<v Speaker 2>you're the man on campus in high school. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it's still there, the lord of those things that they're

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<v Speaker 2>people showing you favoritism and more attention and X y Z.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, No, it's different when you get to the

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<v Speaker 2>league and now you're famous and you have a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars at your disposal. Yeah, and you went from just

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<v Speaker 2>having a high school sweetheart or two of people and

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<v Speaker 2>now you got ten girls, Yeah, trying to throw themselves

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<v Speaker 2>at you every damn day. Yeah, it's like that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a struggle and a lot of people don't survive it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is what it is. The men, the mentality, cause, like,

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, so many people hit the NFL or

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<v Speaker 2>NBA or whatever become you know, hit the league, and

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<v Speaker 2>you like, man, he was so good in college or

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<v Speaker 2>he was so isn't that why he didn't or he

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<v Speaker 2>was the man? Why he didn't pan out? Because you

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<v Speaker 2>lose the focus once you it's hard to stay focused

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<v Speaker 2>and do everything that you have been doing to get

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<v Speaker 2>to this point. Now you like, oh, I'm here, I

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 2>made it, I got paid. Now I can relax a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Did you go that sh when you fall off?

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<v Speaker 1>But did you relax a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Na? Oh, it's not. Everybody's walk is different. Mine ain't

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<v Speaker 2>the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm trying to find out. What was

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<v Speaker 1>your walk like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, Like I said, I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in trouble because the street stuff was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I didn't. I played football all my life,

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<v Speaker 2>always been good. Like I said, y, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>we do. But I didn't. It's not that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take it serious. It's just what we used to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I made my situation harder for me. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to a major school because, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>was in trouble. My coach was telling people that I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't you know, people go say, you know, call him

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<v Speaker 2>a hater or whatever, but he was telling people that

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't college material and that type deal. So I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to major school. I went to black college.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Morris Brown in Atlanta. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>black college. It's you know, one of the historical HBCUs

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. They lost their accreditation and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the football team when I f when when I

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<v Speaker 2>first got there. So I went there, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>transferred to other schools and getting kicked out of other schools,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to find my way, and I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in Alabama. Ended up in Alabama, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to try to get a situation going on at

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Alabama. This was before Nick Saban got there,

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<v Speaker 2>but in all their glory, but whatever, that didn't, that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pan out, and I had to try and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the black college across the street in Tuscaloosa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Stillman Still in College and a lot of

0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 2>people have never heard of it. Still in College and

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 2>tuscal loose I Alabama, hbc U. Shout out to all

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the steel Nights out there, the Steelman Tigers. Yep. So

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.879
<v Speaker 2>and when you do that and you go to a smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>School, I feel like this is gonna end up burning

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that bread.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cheese. Cheese. Don't don't you get over here knocking.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on over here? It's not burnt.

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<v Speaker 1>Look look at the bread that's Look at the other

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>side melted. Look at the other side, the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>he perfectly not show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a gas lighter, look like on the stove.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're you end up making it to the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL right to becoming a professional athlete, right, tell me

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>about that right before transition. How you get the phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking, what that process is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like that. It d it doesn't happen like that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, that's no what I'm saying. So, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, it's levels to everything, y'all, y'all are taking

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<v Speaker 2>it from you. You you speaking on the level of

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that you see on TV. Yeah, when you

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.480
<v Speaker 2>see the people, oh here comes the call you getting drafted.

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>From that's not how it happens too. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm coming from black college. Okay, black college players

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 2>aren't treated with the same you know, just the allure

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 2>those from major schools from Alabama, Florida, the big schools,

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>D one schools. You know what I'm saying. It's no

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>pageantry to it like that. You know what I'm saying.

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't get drafted. You have to go through another process.

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<v Speaker 2>That what I'm saying. They have different tryouts and different

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 2>things like that. So when they have the other combines

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and the other tryouts and I go there and I perform, well,

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>then they say you're invited to come like to camp.

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, there's no there's no And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Some players get it, like you said, the

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<v Speaker 2>calls and stuff like, but that's when they're super on

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, a level of you know, being elite, and

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>they acknowledged this that and they like, oh we want

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 2>this guy, so they risk a draft pick, no anybody else.

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 2>You gotta go through those channels. You gotta walk still

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>like walk on mm. And that's what I had to do.

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I had to go through these things and trying to

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 2>earn a spot on these teams. And that's what it

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 2>always was. They're like, you're good enough, we see you,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>but I got other guys in front of you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like corporate. Yeah, this guy graduated from Yale. Yeah you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. He gets a shot before you

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 2>get a shot. Black man, yeah, or whoever you it's

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. So like yeah, you good, but you

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>have to wait. I gotta let this guy, this guy,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>this guy go before you.

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<v Speaker 1>So like this side that we all would never see

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>or predict.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's it's it's it's business, yeah, regardless about it

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>being sport. And if you know you good enough, you

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>get the reward. But still if you don't comfor go

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>through those type of situations, it's different. No, we got you.

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.360
<v Speaker 2>It's different. Like you said, you have to you still

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 2>gotta go through the channels. You still have to go

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>through the politics. You still have to do all that.

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's the side that nobody sees, that nobody talks about.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you said, you like, man, I just wanna

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<v Speaker 2>play ball. I'm a kid. I just wanna play ball.

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I just wanna l live my dream. And nine times

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 2>out of ten it doesn't happen.

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>When you were doing football, did you feel like you

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>had arrived your you're You're it? This is it for you?

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 2>No? I mean because it was always that. I was

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>never like a in a in a place of comfort

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>like yeah I made it. Yeah, y No, every day

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>is like you about to get fired. Every day, You

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 2>about to get cut. Every day, you about to get

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>released every day. You gotta you worrying about what's next.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>So that that's the journey for me and the people

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>that go through the struggle like I did. It ain't

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it's not glamorous. There's no there's no there's no glamour

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>side of it. Like and this is organic bacon, definitely,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>isn't it is?

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>This is like five dollars at it's organic foo less.

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, struggle baby, struggle plates struggle bacon. But yeah, no,

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 2>the route like you said all that. No, it's not

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>glamoring because you waiting and with anything, your future is

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>in the hands of someone else. Yeah, regardless about your

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>performance as a as an athlete or whatever, it's still

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>on somebody else to say, let's give this kid a shot,

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Let's give this kid a chance, and if that doesn't happen,

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 2>it's a rap. And that happens more times than not. Right,

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>you understand so old, you're good enough to be somewhere,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>but you're not gonna get the opportunity because of the system. Yeah,

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, just like corporate or whatever. So but the

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 2>only thing with that sports the time is your window

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>of opportunity, and time is this small, you know what

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean. It's a young man's game. You need to

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>be able to produce now, and if you can't, it's

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 2>a rap. And then after that it's like this. You

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 2>been doing something for so long, right, Like you said,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I've been playing football since I was five years old,

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 2>been playing it forever. People have been chasing this drinks

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>since there was a kid, and just like that it's old.

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Somebody say, nah, you good, We don't want you no more,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 2>we don't want you. Know, you're not good enough. To

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>go to like after high school, they say you're not

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>good enough to play at the college level. It's a rap.

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>You're not playing football ever again. Or then when you're

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>done with college, you're not good enough to go to

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the professional level, and it's a wrap. You will never

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 2>put it. You'll never put that helmet on again. You'll

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>never put those pads on again. See like basketball, you

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>can go to LA Fitness and still dribble and cross

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Monbuger's over and shoot Steph Curry three's or dunk on

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>people to get your basketball fixed. Football you will never

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>feel that.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Why is that because there's no like place where you

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>can actually do it right?

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>What about well, I guess you can't listen you can now,

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Like it's leagues that they have where they have thirty

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>in up football and you're out there. These people are out.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>No smoke to anybody that does that. I'm not talking

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>about you. You know what I'm saying. Don't take this

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the wrong way. But it's people, like I said, still

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>chasing the dream, chasing those skills. But if you out

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>there playing football at thirty five and actually bang bang

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>banging your nuts, you could die. Yeah, break your leg.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna sayfering.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Not getting paid.

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying, for like even the professional athletes, that's

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>not enough money.

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 2>For the professionals. That's why they get paid what they

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>get paid. You're risking it for the biscuit. And that's

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>why we're talking about people from poverished situations. They're like,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>this is my chance, this is my opportunity, this is

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 2>what else am I gonna do? What else am I

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>going to do that's gonna generate this type opportunity. So

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>you risk it, You risk breaking your leg, you risk

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>getting concussions. And that's what's going on now. Like I said,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>we're talking to eydsight CTE. You know what I'm saying,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>from people banging their heads and getting concussions all the time.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm blessed enough that I got out of it unscared,

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. I'm still here, I'm still

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>doing my thing, still feeling good, looking good, no smoke.

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But my friends, my colleagues, I got so many dudes,

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>like one of my one of my bros, that I

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>knew he has like early on site dementia. You know

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, early stages of dementia from playing ball,

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>banging so much. My other guy's knees is bad. They

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>backs are bad. They can't you know what I'm saying,

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>take some how much of a time to get up

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the bed. Like I said, these are the

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>war stories from you know, just sports and stuff that

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't hear, you know when you when you aid

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>your hands listen. I told you I'm from Atlanta. I'm

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a real man. I'm a real man. Okay, not not

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>no smoke took people that aren't real men. But I'm

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>a Southern gentleman and a real man. So if you

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>go get in here and make a struggle play, you

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>go get in here and struggle with it.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I love that you know how to cook, even though

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems like the potatoes are turned out very low.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>No, they they's just the potatoes are on a slow burn.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>This was I'm gonna let you cook.

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You say, let that man.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It would be like a two hour breakfast.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Wait no, if if this wasn't for camera, it would

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>have been a fastest situation. Really yeah, we doing we

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>spacing it out, talking it out. Who you know? For you?

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you bro? So okay, so take me into your

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a you and you end up believing professional football.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like I said, I'm doing all that. I'm

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>doing the struggle, going through it, and then people telling

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you you're not good enough. No, it's like that. So

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the NFL. And then they say, yeah, we see you,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you good, We we rock with you, we fuck with you,

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>but we can't put you on a team. So go

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>over here to the minor league or the other league,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>or the or the Arena football league, the leagues that's attached,

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. So I I did all that,

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Go over here, get some you know, some good game footage.

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Game real, that's what it's called. Go get it, Go

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>get some more touchdowns and come back and see us

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>type shit. But whatever, I my body was so banged up.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I got injured. And that's the other thing, like you said,

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the comparison to corporate and the time and the window

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>being short, my n my my ankles is banged up. There,

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I knee surgery, all this type of stuff. I didn't

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 2>rehab well. So instead of keep doing the the game,

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the gambit that I was doing, I was like, maybe

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>it's time for me to hang it up. And then

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 2>afterwards you you quit, like I said, it's something that

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you've done your entire life. You quit and you're done,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>but then afterward you have the remorse you like and

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the internal conflict. You're like, man, I can still go.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I gave up too quick. I still got some in

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>the tank, you know what I'm saying. So you have

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>that where you beating yourself up, and a lot of people,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>like I said, when it's done, it's done, And a

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of athletes, if you don't find something to replace

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>the sport, the void. Like I said, you're an athlete,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a professional athlete, or you've been doing sports your

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>whole life. If you don't find something to replace it,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, it can really fuck you up. And a

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have PTSD from that, you know what

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, from sports and not panning out and not

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>finding something else after life after sport, life.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>At PTSD from it, Yes, is it because you're going

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>through that battle of whether you gave up too soon and.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>No, just all of it, life after sport, life after

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the trauma from doing everything something you gave your life

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to and then you didn't succeed. So, like I said, imagine,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>if you imagine you're the man from the small town Oh, Jimbo,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>he's the man. Jimbo made it to the NFL and

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>then after two seasons, Jimbo's back in Yeah Bumfuckville. They're like,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing here, Jimbo? You supposed to be

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>on TV?

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>That's tough.

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Whoa Jimbo? You're a failure? Yeah, Jimbo, you sell tires.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Now do you understand the transition? What do you do

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>after the failure? And you are in the public eye

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of so many people because you were a star and yeah, yeah, Now.

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>How did you go through that transition? How long was

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that transitional period for you?

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it was me I, Like I said,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>you have the internal conflict of like, damn, maybe I

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>still should go play some more. And a lot of

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>people that's what they do. I had a lot of

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>friends kept trying to get in the league or get

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>back to the league. Today was thirty and forty years old.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it's a rap. Football is a sports.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what NFL stands for. Not for long, you did that.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Not for long. You're gonna be here, but you better

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you better figure it out. Not for long. It's a

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>quick turnover. It's a young man's game. Did every every year,

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>there's a nine twenty year old person trying to take

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>your job. Yeah, every every every turnaround.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So did you go to therapy after?

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, we come from the era where therapy wasn't.

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say wasn't around. It's always been around.

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Therapy wasn't. It was shonned upon.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So I tell you, so you skipped out on that.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>No, th you th you have to have therapy within oneself,

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, therapy within family, therapy within people who actually

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>care about you, people that you can actually talk to,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and things that you can actually do. Church was there

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>for a while, you know what I'm saying. We did

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>all that, But my thing was my therapy was producing,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>as in generating, staying active work and getting things done.

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I had other business ventures from all

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the people that I have connections and things I had

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>worked with.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So what did you do after football?

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It's that, like I said, I have a business ventures.

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>There had other things going. I thought that my connection

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to sport and football, thought I was gonna be a coach.

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>See and that's what a that's what a lot of

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>players do. You transition from ball, and that's why you

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>see him being commentators on TV or you get into coaching,

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I thought I was gonna do. I'm like, cool,

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm a coach. I'm'a be a you know it's done,

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 2>but i'm'a be a super coach. And that was a

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 2>shock within itself because it was so much harder than

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I anticipated, and it was so demanding. M It was

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven, none stop. And I was young.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I was a twenty twenty six, twenty

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>seven U you know, young to me? You know what

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. That was young, And I was in charge

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>of a whole high school program. And I had a

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of you know, the high school kids, yeah, looking

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>at me like I'm daddy y you know, pause, you know,

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know what I'm saying, like the father figure

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 2>for all of the youth and this and that, and

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>it charged them responsible for them, responsible for the curriculum,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>making sure they do this hundred kids. And I'm like,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna fail. I'm not ready for this. I wasn't

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>mentally yeah prepared for that. Could I do it now

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>at the you know, the grown level of maturity and

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>everything that I'm at now? Yeah, And I could probably

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>be great at it. But at that time I had

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to walk okay, cause I was finna I w I'm like,

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fail and I'm not about to set

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>myself up for failure. And they're like, you know how

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>many bridges you're gonna burn and then YadA YadA x

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>y Z and I'm like, it doesn't matter that I'm

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna burn these bridges. I'm not about to crucify cause

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like, I'm not. Yeah, I can't give the

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 2>dedication that this the term you know that it gonna require.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm still out here wanting to kick it with my

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 2>friends and have drinks and go to the bar and

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>do those free man things. I wasn't ready to dedicate

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 2>myself to this. Yeah, So, like I said, I walked

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 2>from that and after that, that's when I fell into

0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the acting.

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<v Speaker 1>Shure acting, So dr how do how did the acting

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<v Speaker 1>hold on? Pause for a second? We gotta get you

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>onto this mic?

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I just want to speed.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Up to we're here to watch this. That's yearns.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sandwich?

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that for me? I don't really eat bacon like that,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:21.959
<v Speaker 1>only like a little like.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I just gonna bite it. You don't got to eat

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 2>all of it. I'll eat the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. So you keep saying that you fell

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<v Speaker 1>into acting, do.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>You take you don't get like a picture of this.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's on there. It should be, it should be recording.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>This is glorious.

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I love that you're Can I please do this to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Please do it for one that's ocasun.

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like this the whole time he's like this. I'm

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just saying like it's just like he's just doing whatever.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't hide this, but I had to because your

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>sandwich does look good.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 2>But the reason that it happened because we got the

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>popping and talking and and I didn't.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I had to do it.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 2>My timing was off and it got a little too.

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 2>It's smoky, it's mellanated.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, it's melanie. We just need we just need

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you to feed us at some point, Blue, this is

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be the longest breakfast ever. I can make

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>this breakfast in under fifteen minutes.

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Okay, listen, let me all right, let me plate this.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Please please here with your.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Plate since you as long as y'all can see it,

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 2>the sandwich and the glory with at night fan, Let's

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.479
<v Speaker 2>open it up right here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what would you tell to your younger self?

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Look? Look, look at that?

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Look Look, wow, it looks great.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 2>You see that.

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>It looks great? That do it under that?

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>That right there? You see that. You see those levels,

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 2>those layers in there. That's that's from twenty plus years

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of eating at the waffle house. You know what I'm saying.

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Give me Come on, let's let's let's get back to

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>your story. Okay, tell me what would advice would you

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 1>give to someone prior to you falling into acting?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into it and turn these potatoes

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>down here.

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Put potatoes on our plates. Please, potatoes on the plates,

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<v Speaker 1>the top one.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 2>You're good in the kitchen, Hey man, I told you

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I was a guy. You know, a real man, and

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a real man has to know how to feed himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what we should have put it in

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, okay, I'm gonna use this. That's good.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna blot your potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. The sandwich looks good. It looks restaurant quality.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Boom, I'll take that. Okay, struggle meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, you need one of these.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Grease is good for you. Mm hmm. I told you

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 2>were from the South. We raised, we raised on grease.

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, okay, here we go. Let's try your sandwich.

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>You want me to try to eat it? Yeah, I

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 2>know it's awesome. What whoa turn that around? Show them it.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Looks like a gourmet sandwich, guys, Gormet.

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a great sandwich because it's not a sandwich. Damn

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 2>bad dammich.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>The bacon tastes so good. I will say this. I

0:40:56.480 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>love the way you handled your cheese, right, I love bacon.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And you tried to smoke me out. You tried to

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>act like I burned.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That egg was very hard.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 2>It was great. I didn't burn like I said. I'm

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 2>not to my own horn or nothing. But I told you,

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>real man, real men know how to cook.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a great sandwich. Great job.

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Make sure you let these people know because and you

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 2>make sure you let them know that you're not capping too.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh they know.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I won't. And I'm not, like I said, I'm not bragadocious.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not being a jerk. But I told you you did.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You did. I love your confidence, and you did a

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>great sandwich. You didn't try your own sandwich, did you

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>take a bite of it.

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I was on you. I know it's hitting. This is

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>my own.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It tastes good. Huh. Yeah, you didn't put mail on it.

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Well that was for me.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to put mail on up.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It tastes great.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>You didn't need it, you know what I'm saying. Because

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it's season to toast it up to profession. The

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>bacon is what gives it the flavor.

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But you did a great job on the potatoes. Amazing texture.

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Yo, I'm in here getting gassed up.

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You did great. Honestly, you did really great. I'm very impressed.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Lighting here is real, man. I might hey, I might

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 2>have to open up a little spot man, a little

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>blue Gordon.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Ramsley, what advice would you give to your younger self looking.

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>At this is supposed to have jelly on it too.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just want to side note. I'm not

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to derail us, but I just got this. I've

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>been into like making gourmet sandwiches at home. I call

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it gormet. But I bought pepper jelly.

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Pepper jam, pepper jam, jelly pepper jam.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know about that. I'm in here, man, all right,

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But let me just tell you something. Sandwiches they're like

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>so good, like everyone who tries them, they're like, yo,

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>you could charge for it.

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 2>So when are you gonna let us taste these sandwich.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna start making them and just show

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>people they're really good. But okay, and.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't try to steal my name either if you do,

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean whatever, just show some love.

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious.

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a samwich.

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Samwich.

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a M M I C H samwich.

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't even be eating this bacon.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So organic.

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 1>What advice looking back you going through that chapter of

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>battling yourself? What advice would you give to your younger

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>self in the heat of that battle of I should

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I quit? You know? Am I doing the right thing?

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Am I failure? What direction am I going? Is this

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for me? Is that for me? You know? People saying

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you could burn bridges if you go this way? This way? Like,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>what advice would you give your your younger self looking

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>back at that chapter?

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, now, we're in hindsight. Everybody's right.

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>In hindsight, you know, you get to look back and say, ooh,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I told you so. But that's also the thing regardless

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>about the choices that you make, and not just me,

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying anybody. When you're right, you're wrong, or whatever,

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 2>it's on you to make it to a point where

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you can look back and say I told you so,

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and not so definitely to rub it in people's faces,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>but to make it right. When you make choices in

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>there wrong, it's on you to make it right. You know,

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>choice is always wrong. People always make bad decisions, but

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 2>it's on you to make your next decision and do

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>something else that's gonna say, yeah, that was bad and

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I messed up, but that prepared me for this. Do

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you understand. So it's not over. It's never over. It's

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>on you just to make the next step or to

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 2>make your last false step the right one. Cause then

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 2>you to be like, oh, if I didn't make this

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 2>wrong step, or if I didn't make mess up here,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I would have never ended up here.

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>You keep saying that throughout this whole interview. You keep

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>saying like I fell into acting I fell into and

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I want I wanna go over that.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I did because again I said, I am from Atlanta.

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I am from Collie Park, Real, Atlanta, just like you

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>from Brooklyn or up top or wherever the real places

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Basically, and like I told you, no one

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>does this. No one did this in my family. No

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 2>one does this type of thing around. You know what

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. The streets are there, the other things are there,

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Rappers are there, you know what I'm saying. Anything but

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 2>this So when like I, when I say I fell

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>into it, it's because it was never on my radar.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not like something like, yeah, I'm gonna do this

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm a plan and get into acting. I

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>just fell into it. And when I say that, and

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 2>because then when I actually started doing it, I was

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 2>shunned upon. I was laughed at, I was joked at.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I was called a clown, an idiot. You know what

0:45:59.280 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, people were saying into it.

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes yes. Because at that time, like

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, we're in twenty twenty five, now, this was

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty twelve or so, you know what I'm saying.

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 2>When I when I first started, no one was doing that.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, where it progressed and got to

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>but the people around in my community and the people

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>that I dealt with, you know, you don't do this.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And when I fell into it. I say that because

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a young lady that I was dealing with

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 2>at the time. She kept trying to get me to

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 2>go to acting class with her, and I'm like, do

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>that shit, M, I'm not suremar Moore. You know what

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I'm not. She like, well, y, you know

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>cause mym like I said, body was on point cause

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I had been playing ball, you know what I'm saying.

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 2>And people always used to be like, you should get

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>into acting and modeling. M. And I'm raised by the streets.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>We don't do that. Yeah, don't let the light skin

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>shit fool you. I got into fights frequently because I

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>had to show you that I wasn't typical light skin man. Yeah,

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>don't play with me, don't try me, you know what

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So that type of you know, stid, stereotypical

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>yeah situation. So we went to acting class. I mean,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>she kept trying to get me to go, and she

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 2>tricked me and made me give her a ride. And

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>while I'm there at the acting class, her name is

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Navanna Rose and it was called Real Actors Raw, Real

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Actors Workshop, you know, in Atlanta, and she was like,

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>get up, No one sits an audit to my class.

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 2>If you gonna be here, you go perform. And I'm like, no, no, no,

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm just her ride and she like, na,

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 2>get your ass up, I'm dead ass, mister cool man. Okay,

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.959
<v Speaker 2>you gotta come perform. And we go through the acting class,

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the little seminar or whatever, had fun, you know whatever,

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.479
<v Speaker 2>beginning to acting, and then afterwards she was like, come here.

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>She's like, how long have you been doing this? And

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I wasn't playing. I don't do this. I'm

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>not an actor. I'm not a I'm not mister pretty man. Yeah,

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, oh wow, I thought you were

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>just blowing us off because you were past this level.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>You were you were more seasoned mm within the craft.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, nah, oh. She was like oh wow.

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 2>She was like, nigga, you tripping and you could be

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>really making a lot of money. And I'm like what

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>She was like, whatever it is. She was like, clearly

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you got it. And I'm not saying this now to

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 2>make it. You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 2>to come off arrogant with it. But that's what she

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>said to me at the time. And I'm like what

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, you got the look, you got

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the body, clearly you have the natural energy for this. Yeah,

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like what is she getting at? But whatever?

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, well, fuck it, excuse my French? Can

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 2>we can we yeah, we can drop but f bahom

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>up in here. So yeah, I'm like, fuck it, I'll

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>come back next week. And I, like I said, and

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>cause there were other girls there, it was different, you know,

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, alright, it's a joker, you know whatever, It

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 2>just something to do. And I just stayed with it.

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>And that little inclination is how I'm here with you today.

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And how like I said, a joke and an accident

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 2>became my whole life.

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, Wow, you're getting emotional. You look like you're

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>getting emotional.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like that. Yeah, it's definitely.

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.720
<v Speaker 1>So you started showing up to the workshops more.

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. That's where it started.

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 2>And at that level. And you're talking about getting emotional

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>because you can't. Everything that you've done, all that you

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 2>went through, and now you hear and she's crazy. When

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>when when God steps in, you gotta be clairvoyant and

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 2>open enough to let him step in for you, you

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And and it's crazy because it

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 2>if I hadn't have kept doing that, what would I

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.879
<v Speaker 2>have done? What would I have done?

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>If you haven't been open?

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just saying, if I didn't stay with the

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 2>acting shit, yeah and end up here, where would I've been?

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Where would I have done? We won't know that, but

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, so many different opportunities. Was there and

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>smoke my homie that was selling dope that's dead now

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 2>yeah wow, But I've been selling dope man him and

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.359
<v Speaker 2>fell into the stereotypical Atlanta shit.

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. So it's a level of you know what

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, survival remorse because we hear now and people

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like oh Blue switched up on us. But that's the point.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to switch. You have to

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to pivot. You can't keep doing the same

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>things and expect different results. Can't keep kicking it with

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the same people and expect different things to happen. You

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 2>have to want more. And like I'm up here with

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.319
<v Speaker 2>emotional tears now thinking about it, cause I'm grown. I'm

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 2>grown now, I'm forty years old. I've cried more as

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 2>a forty year old man. Then I have my time

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>because I'm comfortable with it. Yeah, now to cause now

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you can go back, like you said, h everybody's right

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>in hindsight, But now you can go back and look

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>at your choices and the times that you were supposed

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 2>to be in jail, the time that you was supposed

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to you know, it blows me. Now I'm up here

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 2>looking looking like strength, no, looking crazy to somebody that like, man,

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 2>look at this, you'll be a crying But no, like

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not opposed to it because I know

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 2>the struggle, I know the story, I know where I

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 2>came from. I know who didn't make it.

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>When you were doing the acting. At what point did

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you go full time, one hundred percent into acting and

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 1>how much rhetoric was around you leading up to that point.

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying to do that on here with you. Girl.

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You put me in there, you put me in and

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I went from frying you bacon to you having me

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it. Like I said, a front not too long.

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 2>A friend of mine just passed last week, I mean

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 2>not last week, but what's today t Tuesday. Yeah, I

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 2>had this weekend, like I said a couple two days ago,

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean this weekend. And like I said that, all

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of that, it just puts you in a crazy mind

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>state because he's done, his his story is done, his

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 2>train is done. He's not gonna keep going no more.

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And he was a part of my life even though

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:45.399
<v Speaker 2>his life is done, and he was still a part

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 2>of my life. So, like I said, talking about me

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and my blessings and my success and when I'm about

0:53:53.560 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 2>to go to tomorrow, fuck me up. I'm sorry.

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 1>No, I have to apologize.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean to get into that men ain't supposed to cry.

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I hate that this stereotype has been like ingrained in

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>our in our generations, generation, generations, generation, because to me,

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes I think tears is like a sign

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of like the healing process kind of sort of you know,

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean to have to pivot, pivoting, I think pivoting is.

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think pivoting is one of the hardest things you

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>can do, is to know when it's to stop something

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and start something new, and then all the self doubt

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that creeps in, like you said, of giving up on something.

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone.

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 2>That's people imagine if I were have listened to all

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:51.360
<v Speaker 2>the people that said I was a clown? What is

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you doing? You ain't know? You gon to be gay?

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Actors are gay, you know what I'm saying. Just all

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the things that you know, black people say, you know,

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>stereotypical stuff, Like I said, I went through all that,

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And it was.

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, so he went through it. But it seems

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of your pain comes from like and

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never really used this term before, but like survival's remorse.

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like, now you made it to the other side.

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it like you have this guilt or something that

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they didn't cross over with you.

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Not about guilt. I'm not guilty because this is me.

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 2>This is my life. You live for you. Like I said,

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 2>this is my train, and I got a million more

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 2>stops to make. That particular person that was talking about

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>his train is done, no smoke to him, But I'm

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 2>not done. Yeah. I can't crash my train and burn

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 2>it out because his stopped.

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to keep going. I keep generating, I keep reducing,

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:56.919
<v Speaker 2>I keep doing my purpose, my cause, and within that

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I get to celebrate any and every everybody else who

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>has been a part of my life. Yeah, I celebrate

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you by me winning and by me being blessed and

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 2>meet me having these opportunities. So I don't take none

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:11.280
<v Speaker 2>of it for granted.

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>So take me to your first acting gig that you get,

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like that very first one that you book after all

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.919
<v Speaker 1>everyone's nay saying and in your ear, tell me about

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that first one.

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's like I said. So you start and you're

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>just green, you know what I'm saying, Just like anything else,

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>You're just attracted to the lore, same thing to me.

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, this is fun, this is new, this is different.

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But that's just practicing at the class. And then you

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>start auditioning for you know, little not to call them bullshit,

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>but small roles you know, school, college, theater roles that

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 2>they have to do for school and stuff. Different people

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just throwing out little roles and stuff. But you still

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 2>have to audition. Regardless about when you start throwing yourself

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 2>out the audition, it's still a hundred other people auditioning

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 2>with you. Yeah, so that's what we're getting at. They start,

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm getting chose, like okay, whoa I booked something? Yeah,

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you just and then you just want to go perform

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>because you've been practicing in class, working on your craft

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and doing whatever you just want to perform. It's just

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 2>like sports. See, and this is the crazy connection. Everything

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 2>that I learned that's installed and instilled within me from

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 2>sports goes over and plays into the industry. The dedication,

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 2>the work, it's all the same, the preparation having this.

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, workout, stay, stay mentally ready, physically in shape,

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 2>physically ready, spiritually ready, and then they gonna tell you no,

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to be ready to get up

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and do it all over again. Just like sports. You lost,

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta think, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta get up

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and play. Yeah you lost, but you gotta play tomorrow.

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you lost, you gotta play next week. That's done.

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's go keep it moving. Same thing with this. You're

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna get told no a million times before you get

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>told yes. Like I said, so you got to have

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a mental for the tude to even get into this game.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it's changing now because the game is

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.479
<v Speaker 2>not the same today twenty five going into twenty six

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the way it was when I first started. And like

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I tell my people, I feel like the game evolves

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 2>like every five years. You know what I'm saying. So

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 2>when I started, like we said, early twenty ten to

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, whatever that era, it wasn't the same like

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 2>when they were working in two thousand and before. No digital,

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>no nothing. Everything was manual. I think you had to

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 2>like buy a book or something they said, and you

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>had to look to find where the auditions would be

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 2>at in the weekly paper. Wow, you know what I'm saying.

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.919
<v Speaker 2>Type shit like that. So but it's still the same thing.

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 2>It was manual, but you still had to go through

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that process. And regardless, back to the answer the question,

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I started getting chose, like oh shit, I got booked

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 2>and you go do it. So and that's the thing

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 2>with acting in the industry or whatever. Just like sports,

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you practice all week, the game is on Sunday, the

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>football game or whatever. You practice in the sport, I

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 2>mean you practice in the craft acting. Your game is

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the movie. The game is the production. When you get booked,

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, when you're on set the game, Yeah,

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>when you go to set, that's your game day, So

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So that's how it was.

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I started getting booked, started getting chose, and I'm like,

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, I'm booked three projects you know what I'm saying,

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 2>then you same thing. And regardless that, like you said,

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it's nothing, it was minute, it was a student film,

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>but they still chose me out of fifty other dudes

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.800
<v Speaker 2>or other dudes that looked just like me or whatever,

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 2>you understand. So that's where you build that the confidence

0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and like, okay, maybe I got something here, and then

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you book something real. Yes, right, so likethless no, Yeah,

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:11.400
<v Speaker 2>but at that time it was the game. I booked

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the game. The game was like, you know, the hottest

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 2>show out at that time. Yeah, I started booking other things.

1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I booked the game and the other stuff. And I'm like,

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>so then I got paid, you know what I'm saying.

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So when you get paid and you like, oh shit,

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I just got paid to come have fun, came to

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:34.040
<v Speaker 2>do what I've been doing the you know, practicing, and

1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 2>then but now they actually paid me and I'm getting

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 2>respected for it. They gave me respect as an actor,

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh what fuck this. I'm like, this

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:48.480
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm doing now. Now I'm putting all my chips.

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gambling on me.

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. At this point, though,

1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:56.080
<v Speaker 1>if you kind of look back you being able to

1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>go have some money then allowed you. I would imagine

1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 1>your money management skills are really great.

1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Are they sure? Yes?

1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know, yes, thank you.

1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. I'm a capricorn. They say capricorns managed money.

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, yeah, because in acting you have to manage

1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>your money well.

1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, because it's like I said, it's a game and

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 2>people see you like, oh, you're on TV, you're a millionaire,

1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:28.919
<v Speaker 2>and it's not like that. A lot of people you

1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 2>see them there on TV and that was that, and

1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that was the paycheck for that, and now they haven't

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:38.120
<v Speaker 2>worked for the rest of the year. Their money ain't

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.640
<v Speaker 2>came in. It's not like the sports you get paid

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.160
<v Speaker 2>every week regardless or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You don't get paid until you work. So it's just

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:49.120
<v Speaker 2>like I said, the whole industry in the world has

1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a different The reality is one thing and what people

1:01:51.680 --> 1:01:53.920
<v Speaker 2>think it is is another. You know what I'm saying.

1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:57.880
<v Speaker 2>It's rough. It's rough, and a lot of people don't

1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:01.840
<v Speaker 2>survive it. And you understand why so many and he celebs,

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, you'd be like, oh, they're crazy or this

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:09.160
<v Speaker 2>or that because it'll tear you down. The game will

1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:14.120
<v Speaker 2>chew you up and spit you out. It's like being

1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship with a girl that you love, you

1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:22.760
<v Speaker 2>madly in love with her, do anything for and shed

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<v Speaker 2>just be dogging you out, and everybody like, man, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you leave that girl alone? And she dog you

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<v Speaker 2>out all year and you bout the dropper, and then

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<v Speaker 2>your birthday come around and she go all out for you,

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<v Speaker 2>give you everything you want. You know it, do everything

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<v Speaker 2>for you, shows you that she really loves you, and

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<v Speaker 2>just like that, she got you locked for a whole

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<v Speaker 2>year again. You know what I'm saying. And that's how

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<v Speaker 2>the game is. It's vicious. It does not love you.

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<v Speaker 2>It will chew you up and spit you out. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not mentally strong, one thing about me, because

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<v Speaker 2>then I got into this shit, like you said, when

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing it, and like, damn, also, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I was supposed to be doing. Everything that I've

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<v Speaker 2>done prepared me for this acting shit. And I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have been doing this since I was motherfucker seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen years old. I wouldn't have made it. If I

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<v Speaker 2>would have had success at eighteen and a young cat.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. It would have tought me up because, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, your mind, your mental has to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was established as a man when I got

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<v Speaker 2>into this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think one of the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>said that I feel is very important is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you said five minutes person that's calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Glue, nuh we ad work, don't call me.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that you said that I think it stands

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<v Speaker 1>out the most. I think it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>your advice to the younger self is like, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a wrong decision, but it's on you to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a right decision. And I think that's a testament

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<v Speaker 1>to your whole journey, is like, Okay, maybe there was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there wasn't, but either way, you eventually chose to

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<v Speaker 1>make the right decision to make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yes, ma'am, it's just I feel that the universe

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<v Speaker 2>rewards your efforts, you know what I mean, God in

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<v Speaker 2>the universe rewards your efforts. So if you're putting it in,

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<v Speaker 2>then God in the universe will meet you halfway to

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<v Speaker 2>give it back to you. Or and then if you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting effort in something that's not for you, then the

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<v Speaker 2>universe will show you where you're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I do things. Genuinely. I do things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pure about the things I do. I do it

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<v Speaker 2>with a smile, because the universe will provide.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what made you go into production the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same things that we're talking about producing, Yeah, the same

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<v Speaker 2>things that we're talking about. So, like I said, coming

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<v Speaker 2>up and having success and being blessed and starting to book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm having success as an actor, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. But then at the same time, it's so

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<v Speaker 2>many times that roles that I booked never even happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I've signed contracts and like you said, when was your

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<v Speaker 2>oh aha moment? I made it? You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying like that, Like, yes, motherfucker, we on sign. I

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<v Speaker 2>done booked this show and it's coming and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it never even happens. So then that tears you down.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, man, I thought I was finna get XYZ

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand dollars and this and that, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not coming, So then that'll happened, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the grind, back to work, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it happens again and whatever, Like I said, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>roller coaster, and you have to be able to to

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<v Speaker 2>stay the wave. Like I said, the wave bill splash

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<v Speaker 2>on you. You gotta have that's what we're telling you. Gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have a surfboard. You gotta have a boat. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be able to swim, swim until you can get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get in somebody's boat to stay on top of the wave.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like that. So working, and then you book

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<v Speaker 2>and book book like I said, And then I finally

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<v Speaker 2>other situations all go in my favorite then I link

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<v Speaker 2>up with Tyler Perry, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great situation just being able to learn from

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<v Speaker 2>him mentor from him being the big boss that he

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<v Speaker 2>is the biggest black man in the game, in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry. So to have him as somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, a mentor the boss. So whenever he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pouring into me, I'm listening, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So it's hard for me to not get

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<v Speaker 2>into production and what I'm doing after watching him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this man got ten movies and ten different shows all

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<v Speaker 2>on at the same time. He got ten different deals

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<v Speaker 2>with Netflix, Amazon, BT all at the same time. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it comes from. But initially it was already

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<v Speaker 2>planet when I, like I said, but when I got

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<v Speaker 2>with him, that's when I knew that's what I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be doing. But that's where it first started.

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<v Speaker 2>After those situations and those roles and those opportunities never happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that I had to put myself in control

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<v Speaker 2>of what we were doing because at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, no one is. And just like this, people

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<v Speaker 2>ask me, Damn blue Man, you good as you're a

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<v Speaker 2>great actor. Man, you're doing your thing. Why you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>doing no Marvel movie yet? Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know what I'm saying, Like I'm turning down

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel movies and super hero movies Batman and Superman. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you get what I'm saying. The point is those roles

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<v Speaker 2>are not available for me. I don't have opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>be in Marvel movie. It was one black Marvel man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was two Chadwick, my big bro. Rest in peace

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<v Speaker 2>to Chadwick and Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, they got those

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<v Speaker 2>two roles. You know what I'm saying. It hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>much more from that. So the point that I'm making is.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to create that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that. So that's why you went into production.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to create.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the new project at Viral.

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<v Speaker 2>We are currently. The production company is Viral Productions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>started by myself and my partner Frank Atkinson. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>make it. I told him he could have came and

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<v Speaker 2>got a sandwich, sich. Yeah, but now he'll pull up

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<v Speaker 2>later on y'all. But yeah, myself, my partner Frank Viral

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<v Speaker 2>Productions because early on we were making viral videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we made viral videos, and that's when I created

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<v Speaker 2>Viral Productions because I'm like, we got millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>liking what we're the content that we create when we

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<v Speaker 2>put these videos out and they go viral, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So if I can get a million

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<v Speaker 2>people to like what I put out, I can also

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<v Speaker 2>get these people to come watch my movies. It's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing. So and like I said, then,

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<v Speaker 2>when I got with Tyler Perry, it just put more

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<v Speaker 2>gas on that fire of being able to get these

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<v Speaker 2>things and to have him in support of the culture

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<v Speaker 2>of more black you know, film creators. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>the time because we have to take control of our narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to tell our stories just like they

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<v Speaker 2>just drop, you know, a black love story. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell that story. We have to show people what

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<v Speaker 2>black love really is and what it feels like. That's

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<v Speaker 2>our job. It's our job to portray us in the

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<v Speaker 2>light that we want to be seen. Like I said

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, you're not seeing us on TV

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<v Speaker 2>besides being athletes, drug dealers, gang members, you know, in jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, we're so much more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so many more stories to tell besides us

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<v Speaker 2>being basketball players and jib is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? What one hundred and seventeen years of

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood bullshit is about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Most definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell our listeners like a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said once, one hundred and seventeen years of

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<v Speaker 2>movie bullshit?

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<v Speaker 1>A movie is a movie bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was say, Hollywood bullshit, movie bullshit. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the actual name. One hundred and seventeen years of

1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:26.719
<v Speaker 2>movie bullshit. One hundred and seventeen years, you know, since

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<v Speaker 2>the slavery was abolished, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the years but like I said, we've been

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<v Speaker 2>going through this same thing that I'm talking about right

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<v Speaker 2>now for one hundred years, being depicted on camera as

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<v Speaker 2>as slaves being depicted on cameras, ignorant, being depicted on

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<v Speaker 2>camera as murderer killers, gang members, whatever, with so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than that. And it's just a film highlighting all

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<v Speaker 2>the levels of the terrible movie roles that we have

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<v Speaker 2>been in since like the Gone with the Wind era

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<v Speaker 2>when they had Ain't you know, she was Ain't your

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<v Speaker 2>mom and a slave all the way up until this

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<v Speaker 2>time period, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's comedic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's satires, comedic satire, just you know, putting the

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<v Speaker 2>spin on it to show all the bullshit that we

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<v Speaker 2>have gone through within being black in the film industry

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<v Speaker 2>to get to where we are today.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, Yeah, I love it. Thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>very creative.

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<v Speaker 2>We trying, We trying. Like I said, Tyler Perry can't

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<v Speaker 2>be the only one out here giving y'all movies to watch,

1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. There has to be more

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<v Speaker 2>black creators and black filmmakers. So I applaud him for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, putting the battery in my back and giving

1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:43.120
<v Speaker 2>me the support. But we have to do that. The

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<v Speaker 2>film is in film festivals, we're amongst winning awards right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are blessed beyond measure to just be in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation and the timing is just great. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>our time, like I said, to take recontrol of the

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<v Speaker 2>black narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>And then where can everybody keep with everything?

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<v Speaker 2>Blue?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can watch more TV. Go ahead, drop

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<v Speaker 1>all your drops.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have no drops. It's just blue. It's just blue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. But no, we're gonna launch more platforms. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, for the production company, because we have

1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:19.680
<v Speaker 2>some more situations coming where we're going to have a

1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:22.400
<v Speaker 2>TV show based off it. Just a reality show following

1:12:22.439 --> 1:12:27.320
<v Speaker 2>everything that goes with being black in Hollywood and being

1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:30.120
<v Speaker 2>a black filmmaker. You know what I'm saying, the actor

1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:32.559
<v Speaker 2>and the filmmaker, the things and the bullshit that we

1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:35.880
<v Speaker 2>have to go through. But yes, please follow me, support me.

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<v Speaker 2>We need all the love we can get. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>out here to be black in the industry. It's hard

1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to be a black man period, but it's even harder

1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:48.080
<v Speaker 2>to be a black man in the film industry because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want us to win.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think the entertainment business is all you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can attest to like even like just counting on. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this deal will signed, this check is coming in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a new role. Until the check is big

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<v Speaker 1>tire in hand, big time. I mean, I pre plan

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<v Speaker 1>all my checks, by the way, I pre plan all

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<v Speaker 1>my spending before I get it. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>until the check is in hand, it's not official.

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<v Speaker 2>No, checks don't count until they are in That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I say. In the bank. In the bank, because even

1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:26.479
<v Speaker 2>when it's in your hand, it is still bounced. I've

1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:28.680
<v Speaker 2>had checks bounce like basketballs.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a check in my bag for like the

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<v Speaker 1>last month and a half, and I'm like, girl, you

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<v Speaker 1>put that in because you badgine. I go to the

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<v Speaker 1>pose like you because I think they have like ninety days.

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<v Speaker 2>I should probably you better go cast your money.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, guys, thank you guys for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>everything blue Kimbo and the like. Subscribe, follow, share, comment.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, thank you, thank you, thanks out. I'll make

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<v Speaker 2>you a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll make you a saying I'm gonna finish my sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna remove.

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<v Speaker 2>All the bacon, organic bacon

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<v Speaker 1>Organic, even thank you guys, peace out, see it,