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Speaker 3: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to Inside American Soccer.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Tom Bogert, and as always, I'm joined

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Speaker 3: former MLS USU twenty head coach, tab Ramos Tab. It's

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Speaker 3: a holiday season. I don't know what day it is.

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Speaker 3: But we are in that malaise of the between Christmas

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Speaker 3: how's your Christmas? How's your holiday season?

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Speaker 1: It's been it's been great, but You're right, it's it's

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Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say. I was obviously Soccer always

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I bet you dust me in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter what the manager is, doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'll start by saying that I'm

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Speaker 3: Sure going to the biggest stage in the world. Fulham

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 3: scoring or creating a billion chances, I think is more

432
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Speaker 3: of a bonus for him. And what he's done over

433
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Speaker 3: the last month or so with Leeds. He hasn't been

434
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: starting every single game, but you know, getting man of

435
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Speaker 3: the match, getting a few assists, getting more of those

436
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 3: goal contributions has been very important for him.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's hard to think of any other

438
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Speaker 1: player besides Christian Polisk who has had had more of

439
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Speaker 1: an effect on their own team than Aaronson. I mean,

440
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Speaker 1: and you're right, he does get criticized week to week,

441
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, you know, I don't know

442
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Speaker 1: that there's another American leaving everything on the field week

443
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Speaker 1: after week like he does.

444
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: And you know, and that's a trait that you want

445
00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 2: to have on every team.

446
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think because of that, I mean, Marisio Pochettino's

447
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: has to be thinking how do I make the best

448
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: use out of this player because at the end of

449
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: the day, he is not the number ten that most

450
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Speaker 1: people think about. You know, he he is the number

451
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Speaker 1: he's He's the number ten that will pressure the ball,

452
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: that will fight defensively. He's a smart player. He gets

453
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: into good defensive shape, he gets into into the right spots,

454
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: he wins the ball back, he works. You know, there's

455
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Speaker 1: some sometimes there's different ways of describing players, and one

456
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Speaker 1: of them that I remember Jogen Klintzman always talking about

457
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: was that you're you can be a giver or a taker,

458
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Speaker 1: and he's definitely a giver. So Aaronson is a giver

459
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Speaker 1: to the team. He does everything for the team, and

460
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Speaker 1: I think that's a great quality to have. I think

461
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Speaker 1: that's one that we we can't pass on. The question

462
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: becomes how do you fit them into what we're doing?

463
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: Right?

464
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Because he is a he is you know, inevitably that's

465
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Speaker 2: what's going to happen.

466
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Speaker 1: Whether you're in a three five two or three for

467
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Speaker 1: you know, three four two one, you have to fit

468
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Speaker 1: them into one of those positions, and inevitably it's either

469
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a position from which you're gonna need a

470
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of creation like Tillman can provide or rain that

471
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: can provide, or if you're gonna need that defensive role,

472
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Speaker 1: it's likely gonna be a little bit further back, like

473
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Ken or like McKenny can. And so it's

474
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Speaker 1: a very difficult spot to be in if you're the

475
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Speaker 1: coach in terms of I have to fit them in

476
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Speaker 1: and how do I do this?

477
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Speaker 3: So for me, he's not a perfect fit. I don't

478
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Speaker 3: think at a few of these spots. But Jim Curtin

479
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: was his first coach the Philadelphia Union, and he speaks

480
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 3: glowingly of Brendan Ronson and one thing that he said

481
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Speaker 3: has always stuck with me. He goes, Brandan's a guy

482
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Speaker 3: that as a coach, you just can't take off the field,

483
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Speaker 3: And that's that was true in Philly. They had their

484
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: highest paid player played his position when he was an

485
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: academy graduate trying to get his feet in the first team.

486
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Speaker 3: He put him on the bench that he was playing

487
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: all the time because of that quality. Thing happened at

488
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: Salzburg immediately. He becomes a key player at Leeds even

489
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: when things aren't like even when he doesn't have the

490
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: goals with the assists, he's playing a lot because he

491
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: does so many good things. Well, I framed that back

492
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Speaker 3: to the national team, and I just think that you

493
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Speaker 3: find a spot for him on the roster, and I

494
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: don't think that he's a starter within this group, but

495
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: I think that he's going to be a valuable squad member.

496
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Speaker 3: So that's Brendan Aronson's always good to see him playing. Well.

497
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: One more Patrick Godjamong he scored again for Darby County.

498
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: He's got three goals in his last four games. He

499
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: is the un questioned starter. Despite missing some time when

500
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: he made the move from Charlotto's seen in the summer.

501
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: I believe he had a hernia injury and he immediately

502
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: when he returned got in a starting labe. That is

503
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: not easy for a new signing. That is not easy

504
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: for a player who had not been to England before,

505
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: who who came from was playing D three soccer as

506
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: recently as twenty nineteen, fights his way into the Charlotte

507
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: team and then gets to Darby, doesn't have a preseason

508
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: because of that injury, and is immediately starting and he's

509
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: been a handful. I think that physical profile is something

510
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: that nobody else within this pool at that can match,

511
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: and that's always going to put him on the radar

512
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: from Rico po Chattino and that World Cup squad.

513
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you framed it really well.

514
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: I have been one of the ones that has not

515
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: been on this bandwagon over the last couple of years.

516
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: I thought he was always very one dimensional, you know.

517
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: I always think that his best comes out of that

518
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: that curling run to the left side of the field,

519
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, that diagonal run into the left side.

520
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: I think you need a lot more.

521
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, maybe you know, when you

522
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: see the type of goal he scored, you know, a

523
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and he overpowers everybody in the championship,

524
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, maybe we need a little bit of that,

525
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, because you tend to sometimes select the same

526
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: type of players because that's what you want for your team,

527
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: but sometimes you need something completely different.

528
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: And I think that's why you framed it perfectly.

529
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Speaker 1: I think there may be a time where you're looking

530
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: down the bench and you're thinking, at this time, we're

531
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: going to be serving some balls into the box because.

532
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: We need a goal in the end.

533
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: And maybe he's not one of the best three forwards

534
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: that we have at the moment, but maybe he's the

535
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Speaker 1: one that I would go to on the bench in

536
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: those moments. And because of that, I think he's gonna

537
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: have a chance to make this team all the way

538
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 1: till the end.

539
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Speaker 3: I think so too, and I think those final roster spots,

540
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: particularly at center forward or We're gonna discuss a whole

541
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Speaker 3: lot between now and the World Cup. But it's time

542
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: for a quick break. We'll be right back as we

543
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: look ahead to twenty twenty six. Please rate, review, and

544
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545
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: Bramos wherever gets you podcast, Please do particularly rating it.

546
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547
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Speaker 3: much appreciate that. So time for a quick break. We'll

548
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Speaker 3: be right that. Welcome back to Inside American Soccer. So

549
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago we looked back at twenty twenty five.

550
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: We gave out our best and worst for the national

551
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: team and everything in between. And now right before New

552
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: Year's we're gonna look ahead to twenty twenty six, the

553
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: World Year. So as as always, we're going to focus

554
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: everything we talk about around the World Cup. So looking

555
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: ahead to that tournament, what is one thing to have

556
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: that you want to see over the next six months

557
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: that will help set up the United States to succeed

558
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: at the twenty twenty sixth World Cup.

559
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: For me, what I what I'd like to see if

560
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: is for us to start working on our starting eleven

561
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: and watch our starting eleven play. I'd like to see

562
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: sort of the same, you know, the same team playing

563
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: game after game and building towards the World Cup. We're

564
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: going to have some great matches between now in June

565
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: and I and I think we're going to take some

566
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: hits because of the quality of the European teams that

567
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: we're playing. But I would like to see for us

568
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: to to start to project what the World Cup is

569
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: going to be like by seeing our best eleven players

570
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: playing together.

571
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: So my answer is similar in a similar vein to that,

572
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: because it's it's just healthy, right, It's it's making Dropooli sick,

573
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 3: is one hundred percent, no more nagging injuries, Tyler him

574
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: to recover from his torn MCL, Chris Richards. I think

575
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 3: those three more than anybody else, but Baaligain, you talk

576
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 3: about Peppi Tilman Giorino. Of course, when you talk about injuries,

577
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for something that you can't really control. You

578
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: can do your best to try to mitigate. But for me,

579
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: it is a lot about health, and I think that

580
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: works in tandem, tab with with what you're saying, and

581
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: if those the most key players are always available or

582
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: mostly available, you can start building continuity that within that system,

583
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: within that lineup, within those partnerships, within the game. Because

584
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: they the mentality was an issue over the summer, they

585
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: they've completely fixed that. For me, I think that that

586
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: Poschatino in the staff deserve a ton of credit. That's

587
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: something that they've been working on really hard and really

588
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: trying to instill as a priority. I think that was

589
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: fixed tactical that was a big problem. I thought in

590
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: the summer, Well, that's been fixed with the new system.

591
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: It can always be fine tuned, but generally things are

592
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: in the right direction. It's it's about health for me

593
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: and the best players being available.

594
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah without and you know, there come moments in a game,

595
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, and this happens, and I would imagine it

596
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: happens in all sports where you know, you get to

597
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: that moment in a game where you're like you're giving

598
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: your max and the other team's giving your max, and

599
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: it's those small details that are going to make the difference.

600
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: And I think this is why I'd like for us

601
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: to have our eleven because at those moments when when

602
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: you're used to playing together, you can react in a

603
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: certain way because your teammate, you know that you can

604
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: count on your teammate to react in a certain way.

605
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see our our eleven together so

606
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: that we can we can build on that we can

607
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: build and being enable to figure out those difficult moments.

608
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: In the game where the game can tip one way

609
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: or the other.

610
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: I was speaking to current national team player who this

611
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: isn't like a new idea or anything, but just kind

612
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: of emphasizing how it's like. It's it's difficult, particularly first

613
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: when you get back with an asset team, because when

614
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: I'm playing with my club team, everything is so orchestrated

615
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: and drilled and train that I could play with with

616
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: a blindfold on, and I know when I receive the

617
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: ball in this pocket that I'm gonna have an option

618
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: to my right to flick or I'm gonna take a

619
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: touch and play it to the left. With the national team,

620
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: it's more difficult because you don't have that time on

621
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: the training, you don't have that many games, you don't

622
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: things can't be quite as as drilled and choreograph. You

623
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: can have principles and everything, but then changing your brain on. Okay,

624
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: like I'm not playing for my club team, playing for

625
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: the national team. What are the duties, responsibilities and roles,

626
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: so any having as many minutes as possible to to

627
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: build that and continue to reinforce those times where you

628
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: can turn your brain off and know, I can flick

629
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: it around the corner. I don't need to look. I

630
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: know that the winger is going to be there. Or hey,

631
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: if I'm a center back and I want to play

632
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: a long ball, I know where the winger is gonna be,

633
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: or I know where the wing back is going to be.

634
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: Something to that effect, where you know at clubs in

635
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: this day and age that that that stuff is second nature, right,

636
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: You don't you don't have to think, you can just

637
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: you don't need to react. Just you just kind of

638
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: play because you know where everybody's supposed to be at

639
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: all times.

640
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would go you know, well, here's a

641
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: good example, you know, playing with Sergenio Desk or playing

642
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: without Serginio Deak. Right, if you're one of the midfielders.

643
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: You know Sergenio for example, is very unpredictable, right, so

644
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: most of the time he doesn't know what he's going

645
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: to do next, so you know, and this is not

646
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: a bad thing, right but at the same but at

647
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: the same at the same time as it's a good

648
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: thing for your team. Because he can be unpredictable in attack,

649
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: he can also be unpredictable defensively and because of that

650
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: you have to make up for that. And if you're

651
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: not used to doing that week after week, you have

652
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: that disadvantage. Now, I will say this, other national teams

653
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: have the same issues that we have. They don't play

654
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: together either, right, But you want to have many of

655
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the details already prepared going into the summer.

656
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: That's why I'd like for us to take advantage of that.

657
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: I agree. But also they did have World Cup qualifying,

658
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: so they did have a lot of games of consequence,

659
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: which is just straight up different than friendlies. And also,

660
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: again I haven't run any data here, but I'd be

661
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: hard pressed to find another national team that has called

662
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: up seventy one people in the calendar years, so I

663
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit a little bit more difficult

664
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: on our end. Another one, what is your biggest reason

665
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: for optimism for the World Cup?

666
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think just having watched the last four games

667
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: in particular, three out of those four games and the

668
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: mentality that we had, because at the end of the day,

669
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: this summer is not going to be all about tactics.

670
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: It's going to be mostly about mentality. You know, the

671
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: team is going to be under a lot of pressure,

672
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: but at the same time, the team is going to

673
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: be supported by.

674
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: Millions and millions of people.

675
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: I think, you know, people will be excited about this team,

676
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: and because of that, that will bring that pressure. But

677
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the mentality is going to be tremendously important,

678
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: and for the first time in years, we were able

679
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: to see it in the last two windows, and and

680
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: I think that that gives me a lot of hope

681
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: for what this team can do.

682
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh exactly. It all comes down to the last you know,

683
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: four or five games in the fall, when things really

684
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: were not looking good prior to that. So I think

685
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: that that's tangible optimism. Those are things that we can

686
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: point to and look at rather than talking about things

687
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: in the abstract and like, well, what if this happens

688
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: and what if that happens. Like I think that was

689
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: very important for the morale of both the group but

690
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: more so the fan base. More so, how quickly the

691
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: crowd is gonna be worrying, or how quickly things can turn,

692
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: and even the mentality within the group. I think that's

693
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: all strong. But to give a different answer as well,

694
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: like I look at these tournaments and maybe it's a

695
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: little naive, or maybe it's a little bit reductive, but

696
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: when your best players are your best players, you get success.

697
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: And I think about again, your era, guy like you,

698
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: I think about the twenty tens, the Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey,

699
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: Michael Bradley, Like, when those dudes were playing at the

700
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: top of their games, you felt like we could beat anybody,

701
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: right Tim Howard against Belgium, Like, feel like you could

702
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: beat anybody. So I look at Pulisic and he's in

703
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: the form of his life. Look at Chris Richards, He's

704
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: in the form of his life. Tyler Adams was before

705
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: he got injured. And if those three guys are firing,

706
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: and I've used the same three names over and over again,

707
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: so apologies for being redundant as well, but man like,

708
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: as long as the baseline level the rest of the

709
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: team is there, and it has been in the fall,

710
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: then you have a chance to let your special players

711
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: be special.

712
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: And you have other guys in their best form, you know,

713
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: because you're looking at McKinney and we're talking exactly about that,

714
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: right we're looking we're talking about Aaronson and he's in

715
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: his best form, you know, Peppi is getting to his

716
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: best form. Baaloguan is in his best form for our

717
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: national team. So you have a lot of guys, you

718
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of it sort of coming together, and

719
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: we hope that we can keep that. Six months from now,

720
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about this same exact thing.

721
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: I hope so too. One more here. I know that

722
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: there's been a ton of players calling up and I'm

723
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: not sure that anybody quite qualifies as off the radar.

724
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: But is there a player that that maybe isn't quite

725
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: in focus, that has a chance to break out over

726
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: the first six months of this year and be considered

727
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: for the World Cup roster?

728
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I'd have to say no, because you know, I

729
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: have to call so many players. I don't know that

730
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: anyone's off the radar. Well, you know, normally what you

731
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: do in these cases is you look at your youth

732
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: national teams, right, so you look at this point, we'd

733
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: be looking at like a Brooklyn Range, So you're looking

734
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: at a Kramowski or you're looking at a Sekiries, you're

735
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: looking at guys who were successful in the younger teams.

736
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: But I think they're pretty far away at this point

737
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: from breaking into this team. And by the way, it

738
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they couldn't do it, but I just

739
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's realistic where we are.

740
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: I agree with you there, and I like I did

741
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: this exercise as well, like going through like the U

742
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: twenty World Cup squad, and again I think that there's

743
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: players that project well for the future. But I do

744
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: think twenty six is too soon in terms of off

745
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: the radar. I think Brian White would count us off

746
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: the radar, or at least more so than some of

747
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: the others. And I just think that any center forward

748
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: that gets hot has the chance to make a World

749
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: Cup squad that's in bottle Hercules Gomez or two in

750
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: recent memory. Heck, even Hodgi right like he kind of

751
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere before twenty two. Jesus Frero was

752
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: within the team, but that was a little bit of

753
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: a controversial selection and he started some of those games.

754
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: But those are kind of the profiles that I think

755
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: have the quickest chance to play your way onto the

756
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: roster if you score a bunch of goals over a

757
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: few months leading into the World Cup, and then maybe

758
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: one more like Tristan Blackman. Again, I know that this

759
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: is a player who was just with the team in September,

760
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: but m what's spend of the year, particularly if as

761
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: the back three persists Camra corn Vickers has gotten injured,

762
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: that was an option in that position, that maybe he's

763
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: somebody who could play his way onto that last center

764
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: back spot. But you know, I'd probably still stick with

765
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: Brian White ahead of him.

766
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, I think the Jersey connection with

767
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Brian White, I think that makes sense all together all

768
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: around as being an option, right, But I would say,

769
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: justin Blackman, I think he's likely, you know, one injury away,

770
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, from someone else getting injured from being but

771
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, being in the real picture here, you know.

772
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: And I've said this before and other shows. I like

773
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: the way he plays.

774
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot to offer, and I

775
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: think he could offer a lot to this national team.

776
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that's a good call.

777
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: All right. With that, We're gonna take one more quick

778
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 3: break and we'll be back with another tab Ramos story.

779
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: Inside the locker room as well as inside the notebook,

780
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: I'll give you some information that I've got coming lately

781
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: around the national team. Thanks for listening. As always inside

782
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 3: American Soccer, please rate, review, subscribe wherever you get your podcast,

783
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: and we'll be right back. All right, welcome back. We

784
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: are gonna go inside the locker room with tab Ramos

785
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: once again. Tab. We are in the period where again,

786
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: hopefully if you're listening to this, you've gotten some time off,

787
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: and if you don't, thanks for listening, and I hope

788
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: that you'll have some time off soon. But while we're

789
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: talking about time offs, professional athletes have a little bit

790
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: of an off season. It gets less and less, it

791
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: seems like every year. But Tab, back in the nineties,

792
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: there was a long period where between the national team

793
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: and a couple of transfer as you made, you didn't

794
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: have any time off. So bring us back to that

795
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: time and what it's like as a professional athlete without

796
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: any type of break.

797
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Well, uh yeah, let me connect it a little bit

798
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: to what happens now, right, because you know, we're we're

799
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: very much a world now that focuses on on on work,

800
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: on load and player and management of that load.

801
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: Right, you even see it in the NBA.

802
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: You see it in other sports where load management has

803
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: become really important. You know, back then, obviously we weren't

804
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: thinking so much about that. First of all, I'll you know,

805
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: I'll be out there and saying that I don't think

806
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: more than a couple of weeks rest is needed.

807
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to be away from the

808
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: game for that for that long because it takes you

809
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: longer to come back.

810
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: But but in particular one summer wherein I transferred from

811
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: uh from Betty's to Tigris, knowing that I was going

812
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: into the MLS the following year. I went to Tigris,

813
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: played the half season of Tigris from January until the summer,

814
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: and in the summer we had Copa America. We had

815
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: some national team friendlies, but on top of that, we

816
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: had Cope America. And Cope America was in Uruguay, which is,

817
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, a twelve to fourteen hour flight south, and

818
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: by the way, it's in the winter because you're going

819
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: into the Southern hemisphere, so you're going to competing in

820
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: the winter. And we went to Cope America and as

821
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, many people know, we did pretty well at

822
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: Cope America and beat Argentina three zero, took first place

823
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: in our group, knocked Argentina at the second place, forced

824
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Argentina at to goal play Brazil right away, and we

825
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: played Mexico and advanced all the way to the semi

826
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: finals of that Cope America. And because of it, we

827
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: stayed all the way to the end. You know, we

828
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: played the third place game, which meant we were at

829
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: Cope America from beginning to end, so it was long.

830
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Speaker 1: And then after that I had to go to preseason

831
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: with Tigris because the preseason was starting. So had played

832
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: now the season at Tigris, some friendlies with the national team,

833
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: the full Cope America, and now I go to preseason,

834
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: which I feel like I don't need because I've been

835
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: playing all alone.

836
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: You had been playing the whole time, but you go

837
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: into preseason anyway.

838
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: And to top it off, the preseason at Tigris we

839
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: were doing it half in Italy and half in Greece.

840
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: So I flew from Uruguay to Mexico to start the preseason.

841
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: We were there for a few days and then we

842
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: flew to Italy, which by the way, in Italy we

843
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: played we played against Perugia. But the second game we

844
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: played it was against Patava and Alexi Lalas is on

845
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: that team, so I got to play against I got

846
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: to play against Alexi Lalas in Italy with Tigris against Patava,

847
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: which is which is kind of neat two Americans playing

848
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: each other, and especially at that time. Right now it's

849
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: not a big deal, but back then it was a

850
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: big deal having two Americans play each other in Europe

851
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: in a preseason game.

852
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: But anyway, so and from.

853
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: There we went to Greece, played in a tournament there

854
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: with US Studiantism, Argentina and Olympiacos, and then we went

855
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: back back to Mexico a couple of weeks later and

856
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: then started our season that went, you know, all the

857
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: way to December. But then the issue was from the

858
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: then we started the second half of the season in

859
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Mexico and then I had to rolled right into MLS.

860
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: So MLS was starting in April of that year, so

861
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: I rolled right into MLS and I was going into

862
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: really into a league that hadn't existed, that was its

863
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: first year. So it was really more about the lack

864
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: of planning, because there's no other way to say. From

865
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: going from January of one year to December of the

866
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: following year, playing sort of the whole time NonStop, which

867
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: was really difficult.

868
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: Did you stay fit throughout that whole time or did

869
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: you have any any I guess abnormal minor injuries or

870
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: anything like that.

871
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure I had a couple of injuries, at least

872
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: at the time, because I was getting injured from time

873
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: to time.

874
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: I was at that time.

875
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the year when I turned thirty, and

876
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: because of that, I was already starting to.

877
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Wear down a little bit.

878
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: You know.

879
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: Back then, without the var guys like me used to

880
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: get jack up all the time in cames, so so

881
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: it was not easy to stay on the field all

882
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: the time.

883
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: So I'm sure I had a couple of injuries that year.

884
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Now, what was that like mentally for you?

885
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, I actually I enjoyed it. I actually I didn't

886
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: enjoy having time off. You know.

887
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: I like playing week to week because I felt like

888
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: I stayed sharp that way, and the focus was not

889
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: so much on training.

890
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: The focus is more in games.

891
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: You know, when when you get injured or when you

892
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: know you have time off, you have to focus on

893
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: training because your fitness becomes a big part of what

894
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: you're doing. But when you're playing week to week old

895
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: old that old training does is just sharpen you up

896
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: for the weekend.

897
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: And you like being in that environment of week to week,

898
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: just being focused on the games.

899
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: When you're I again, off is a relative term because

900
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: it's not as if you're sitting on the couch for

901
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day. But would you would you

902
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: dabble in in playing other sports with friends and stuff?

903
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: What what was it like when you did have a

904
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: few weeks off where you didn't have to go to

905
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: let's say a two day training session.

906
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, being off a couple of weeks for me

907
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: meant playing tennis, basketball, you know, every other sport every day.

908
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: So so I really you know, I was always I

909
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: always played all sports, So I really enjoy that.

910
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: I can see you being really good at tennis. But

911
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, I'm a little bit dubious of

912
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: your basketball skills. What what were you any good at basketball? Uh?

913
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean it depends on how you define that. No,

914
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: but I'll tell I'll tell you this.

915
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Like for example, in college and NC State, we had

916
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: an intramural team basketball team and we won and we

917
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: won it twice with like one hundred teams in the

918
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: tournament you know we had it was basically all soccer

919
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: players and a couple of swimmers. A couple of swimmers

920
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: because they were tall, and uh we won the Intramurro

921
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: League a couple of years in a row.

922
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: So I take it back, I was wrong, and don't

923
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: take it back.

924
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: And don't forget.

925
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I went to school at Benedict's where like getting in

926
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: the gym and hitting. Uh, hitting a few shots is

927
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: important too. And by the way, I took Tony meol

928
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, the same Benett's to play

929
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: with me because Tony is a great basketball player.

930
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: Uh, I can see that.

931
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: So basketball is a sport I actually enjoyed a lot.

932
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny. I love I love watching huge knicks, man,

933
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: I love watching basketball. I am useless on a basketball court,

934
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you that much. My extent of basketball

935
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: is playing futsalf. And I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure

936
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: that that's that's likely the case for many soccer for

937
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: many soccer players, but not you. I was wrong there.

938
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I doubt it. JEMs. Yeah, let that happen again. In

939
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: terms of and we're talking about offseason, and in MLS

940
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: it is the off season. And there have been several

941
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: players within the national team that guy like Alex Freeman,

942
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: he hasn't played since late October early November, Jack McGlenn,

943
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: even before that, Diego Luna October. Some of the players

944
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: within the national team, I'm certain that they've been training.

945
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: They've insane fit, doing with the best that they can.

946
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: Preseason reconvenes in a couple of weeks around MLS and

947
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: then the first games are in mid February. How difficult

948
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: is it for those MLS players to lock back in

949
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: to the start of the season, be at your best,

950
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: to be able to be to be in consideration to

951
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: be called up, and then be at your best if

952
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: they are at the March March camp.

953
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean players have to be doing their homework,

954
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, because they're off for a couple of months,

955
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're not playing. I mean, if anything,

956
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: hopefully like they should be is they should be finding

957
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: their way to somewhere like Florida where a lot of

958
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: them get together and do their own mini camp and

959
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: they play a little bit. I know that, you know,

960
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: in our time, whenever we we had time, we would

961
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: do that. And I know from being at Houston Dynamo

962
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: that some of the players did get together, you know

963
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: in in you know, in the offseason somewhere warm where

964
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of them come together and they and they

965
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: help each other out, They work out together, they play

966
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: some games, you know, they do some some all sided things.

967
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: But you're still involved in the game. So hopefully the

968
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: players can do that and are doing that.

969
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: If not, if they can't do that, they can always

970
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: come here and play for the Brooklyn Italians.

971
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: I can hook them up.

972
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I can hook them up with the Brooklyn Italians and

973
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: they can come play here the indoor leagues.

974
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: I think that's a great call. I think that I

975
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: think that'd be pretty good for a few of them.

976
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: That was inside of the locker room. Now we're gonna

977
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: go inside the notebook and talk about some of the

978
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: biggest stories around the national team. The biggest one, I

979
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: think was already the Ricardo Peppy transfer info that we

980
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: gave you in the first segment. But let's start with

981
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: some injury news. Chris Richards he left on a stretcher

982
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: for Crystal Palace and then he missed the team's next game.

983
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: That was the first Premier League game that he missed,

984
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: showing his importance to this very very good Crystal Palace side.

985
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: The good news is despite being stretchered off, it's a

986
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: short term injury. He got stitches on his foot and

987
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: he's questionable to play in the team's New Year's Day match.

988
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: That is best case scenario. Because you hear stretcher and

989
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: somebody being carried off, you don't think just stitches. So

990
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: thankfully the worst case scenario was avoided. Chris Richards, whether

991
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: he's back on New Year's Day or not, I think

992
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: his immaterial because it won't be long before he returns

993
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: to the lineup, and that is crucial for the national team.

994
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: No question.

995
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: And he's you know, he's a tough player. He hasn't

996
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: missed any games. I don't think this will this old.

997
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: He won't skip a beat here with this. I you know,

998
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I recall a situation with the under twenties. We're playing Ukraine,

999
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: and I remember Chris Richards. We came in the locker

1000
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: room at halftime and he and he pulled his socks

1001
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: down and took his sort of his shing guard off,

1002
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: and underneath he had a cot some kind of cut

1003
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: he had been kicked and he was looking at it

1004
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you looking at?

1005
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Said, and he goes, yeah, you know, he's like nothing.

1006
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Coach put the thing back.

1007
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: On and when you know, went right back without a problem.

1008
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think he's a tough player.

1009
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: He's shown it. He wouldn't be in the league where

1010
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: he is if he wasn't, and I think he won't

1011
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: skip a beat. So we had nothing to worry about there.

1012
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: I agree, So disaster avoided there. The next piece of

1013
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: injury news Tyler Adams. He is out for around two

1014
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: to three months with a torn MCL, so that puts

1015
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: in doubt if he's going to be able to play

1016
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: in March. It's not good news, but again it avoids

1017
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: the worst case scenario because going down with a knee

1018
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: injury early in the game, you never know exactly what

1019
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: it is and if that was an ACL, that's it

1020
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 3: for the World Cup, which would be an absolute disaster. Again,

1021
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: torn MCL is not is not a positive thing, but

1022
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: it's something that he'll be able to recover from and

1023
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: be back to full fitness and form. That is the

1024
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: prognosis ahead of the World Cup and again maybe he'll

1025
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: be here in March with the team. But again, this

1026
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: isn't nearly as positive as Chris Richard situation, but content

1027
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: with it to not be the worst case scenario for

1028
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: Tyler Adams.

1029
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: In this one, I feel a little bit different. I'm

1030
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: worried about this one because although it's it's an MCL.

1031
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: If you know, you know, the MCL is on the

1032
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: it's on the inside of your knee, and because of it,

1033
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: you use it constantly for your your inside of the

1034
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: foot passing, you use it for blocking shots, you use

1035
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: it for winning tackles.

1036
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: It's it's very difficult to get your.

1037
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: Confidence back when you do an MCL. It's it takes

1038
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: a while. So just because he may be recovered, let's

1039
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: say in two months, it may take on another month

1040
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: or two for him to be fully confident that he

1041
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: can go hard with the inside of his foot. It's

1042
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: not it's a it's a it's a much more difficult injury. Then,

1043
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: let's say, the doctors could say, because it requires your

1044
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: your confidence, requires for your brain to be fully confident

1045
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: that you can make that hard tackle and you can

1046
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: hit that ballhard. So I'm a little bit worried about this.

1047
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't see him playing in March. Hopefully he does,

1048
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: but I think he should be okay for the World

1049
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Cup obviously.

1050
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and at least there should be that

1051
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: time again depending on exactly when he comes back, there

1052
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: should be that time to gain that confidence mentally more

1053
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: than physically, because again, let's say he comes back mid March,

1054
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: late March, like you still have what ten ish games

1055
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: left in the Premier League schedule, depending on again exactly

1056
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: when he comes back, so at least he will have

1057
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: some time there. But tap to your point about being worried,

1058
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: it leaves now it really leaves no room for setbacks,

1059
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: no rooms for you know, another little injury, because just

1060
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: running out of game time. There will be the pre

1061
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: World Cup friendlies, the two at the end of May.

1062
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: But at that point you hope that he's completely fully firing.

1063
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: And again I'll be optimistic and hope that he is.

1064
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: But now we are at a point where there is

1065
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: no room for setbacks or error. But again, if we're

1066
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: going optimistic.

1067
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: And if I could add to that, you know, as

1068
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: you're saying, there's no room for setbacks. This is the

1069
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: type of injury where you have setbacks, because all it

1070
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: takes is for you to block a shot where the

1071
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: ball sort of hits your toe and opens your leg

1072
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more for you to be set back

1073
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: for a week or two. And that's the tough part,

1074
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: and that's what worries me most.

1075
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: It's a good point and good insight. Lastly, here Luca Delatore,

1076
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: per sources, is signing for Charlotte FC. He left San

1077
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 3: Diego after a one year loan from Southovego. I'm told

1078
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Speaker 3: that this is a permanent deal to Charlotte. He fell

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Speaker 3: out of the San Diego starting lineup by the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think in Charlotte he provides something that they really need.

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Speaker 3: They don't have ball progressors and creative technical types in

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Speaker 3: the midfield. But the only worry here for Luca delatory

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Speaker 3: is a prerequisite to getting on the field for Dean

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Speaker 3: Smith and Charlotte is defensive tenacity and work great. And

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Speaker 3: we've seen some other technicals midfielders that either get pushed

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Speaker 3: to play on the as a winger petpiel or just

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Speaker 3: kind of get dropped entirely from the team, which was

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Speaker 3: Eric Williamson. Lucas Delatori is a better player than Eric Williamson.

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Speaker 3: But that is the only worry that if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't play sharp and intense on the defensive side,

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Speaker 3: Dean Smith is a guy that will go for a

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Speaker 3: more kind of industrial type of midfielder. But he's the player.

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Speaker 3: He's a player that Charlotte really need. And and I

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Speaker 3: think this would be a good fit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna have to disagree with you on

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Speaker 1: this because I think I think Luca is not a

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Speaker 1: great fit for this team. I'm actually surprised with this,

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Speaker 1: with this, uh, with this, you know, signing into Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: I could see, you know, Luca doing much better in

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Speaker 1: a place like Houston or you know, you know so

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Speaker 1: and and by the way, you know, I have to

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Speaker 1: say this because obviously I have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: insight on some of these players. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Luca Dilettoria's heart rate has gone above sixty for

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Speaker 1: the last ten years.

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Speaker 2: You know, he is as cool.

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Speaker 1: He's as cool as player as I've ever seen. Nothing

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Speaker 1: gets to him. He will, he will go to Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: He will make a great effort, he will do the

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Speaker 1: best he can, and he won't sweat it because he

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Speaker 1: has confidence in his ability. He has great technical ability

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Speaker 1: to get out of any situation. But I just don't

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Speaker 1: think for some of the reasons that you mentioned, I

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Speaker 1: just don't think he's a great fit for that team.

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Speaker 1: But obviously that's just my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I think and I think that that

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Speaker 3: is a fair worry. Charlotte need to evolve, like Dean

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Speaker 3: Smith needs to evolve his game model, and and he

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Speaker 3: has to make sacrifices which probably be the wrong word,

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Speaker 3: but he wants a lot of like he wants a

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Speaker 3: lot of dogs in the team. He wants a lot

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Speaker 3: of ball winners, a lot of all of that. They

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Speaker 3: did not progress in the playoffs because their midfield three

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Speaker 3: were three players who give you nothing in the attacking third.

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Speaker 3: And I liked each individual player, but I was at

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Speaker 3: the game that they got eliminated. I cannot tell you

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Speaker 3: how many times they had good passing sequences that ended

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Speaker 3: at the at the feat of two holding midfielders that

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Speaker 3: were playing more advanced because that's all they had, and

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Speaker 3: that's all Dean Smith trusted at that point. So maybe

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Speaker 3: if if he's able to bend on some of those things,

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Speaker 3: Luca will be a good fit but tab, I think

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Speaker 3: that you have every right to to kind of worry

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Speaker 3: on that front. Over the next week or so, I

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Speaker 3: would definitely keep keep a tight eye on Riccardo Peppy,

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Speaker 3: Fulham or elsewhere. Again, I'm told that there is more

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Speaker 3: teams interested, but Fulham are the first two table A bid.

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Speaker 3: So Riccardo Peppy's future is going to be one to

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Speaker 3: watch and it looks like Fulham is trying to wrap

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Speaker 3: us up as quickly as they can. So over the

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Speaker 3: next week or so, definitely, uh, stay tuned to see

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Speaker 3: what happens next with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting because I I can't wait for something to

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Speaker 1: happen for him. I think he's got a lot more

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Speaker 1: in the tank that that, uh, than we've seen. You know,

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Speaker 1: Peppy has been helping our national team getting big goals

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Speaker 1: for years. I still go back to the goal he

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Speaker 1: scored against Honduras, you know, back you know, when we

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Speaker 1: it looked like it was we were going to be

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Speaker 1: in a tough situation trying to qualify for the World Cup.

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Speaker 1: He scored a second half goal in Honduras that I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget because it was that big a goal and

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Speaker 1: I think he uh him not, you know, being part

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Speaker 1: of the last World Cup.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot to prove and uh and I

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Speaker 1: and I think he will make this one and and

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Speaker 1: I think a move at this time will be will

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Speaker 1: be tremendous for him and cutting that uh sort of

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Speaker 1: that that lead into the next World Cup.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And we'll stay tuned and we're going to

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