WEBVTT - Stop Cop City, Dispatch from Weelaunee Summer: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>This is part two of my mini series about what's

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<v Speaker 1>been happening this summer in Atlanta to stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 1>Last episode we left off with the attempted march from

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<v Speaker 1>Gresham Park to Entrenchman Creek Park, which some might say

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<v Speaker 1>was a disappointment, but it also gave everyone more clarity

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<v Speaker 1>about the current state of these types of direct action

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<v Speaker 1>marches in Atlanta and the necessity for evolution. The main

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<v Speaker 1>event on Thursday, June twenty ninth was a protest outside

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<v Speaker 1>the Home Depot in the upscale retail district off of

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<v Speaker 1>Ponce de Leon Avenue. Home Depot is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Foundation's financial backers.

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<v Speaker 2>There had been a rumor that Home Depot was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be close earlier in the day. I got there

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty. It wasn't closed, so I didn't see any signage.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went and parked my car and came back

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I think I got out there for fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and people were starting to line up along the road, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a Starbucks. And they were lining up along ponts

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<v Speaker 2>next to the Starbucks. And you know, I'm I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>to them watching this. They're chanting, they're they're pulling out banners,

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<v Speaker 2>and we get a call that they are arresting Lorraine Fontana.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lorraine Fontana is a seventy six year old activist

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, and she's great like she she pops up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>She's beloved by everyone. And so we get this call

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<v Speaker 2>that Lorraine Fontana is being arrested, and I bolts as

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<v Speaker 2>far as my little legs will take me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I have to stop and catch my breath, like right

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<v Speaker 2>before I get there. But Lorrain and one other person

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<v Speaker 2>were arrested in the parking lot right outside the Home

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<v Speaker 2>Depot's store.

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<v Speaker 3>Called for brays here and why anybody protests in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Store when they start reading now the layer I asked,

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<v Speaker 2>the boy handed the practices and the time I also.

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<v Speaker 4>Learning telling them how people cannot want their faces or side.

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<v Speaker 1>After protesters left the store, they stood by a corner

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<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot to holding signs, where they were

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<v Speaker 1>then approached by APD officers, who then arrested two people

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<v Speaker 1>without warning.

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<v Speaker 2>It does kind of just show APD like basically doing

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what they would with anyone, except in this case

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<v Speaker 2>it's a seventy six year old woman who's like five

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<v Speaker 2>or four eleven or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Like, yeah, no, I mean it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were like surprised that this happened, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>could the police do this? I think others were like

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<v Speaker 1>not as surprised, be like no, it's the APD. They

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a good demonstration for people being like

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<v Speaker 1>showing that they do not care. They don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a seventy seven year old woman or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a nineteen year old eco terrorist, they're gonna treat.

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<v Speaker 2>You roughly the same. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>After Lorraine's arrest, more and more people began showing up

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<v Speaker 1>across the street from Home Depot calling for their divestment

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<v Speaker 1>from the Atlanta Police Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>It got up to like thirty maybe forty people mostly

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<v Speaker 2>just like chanting on the sidewalks sidewatch, but then they

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<v Speaker 2>started to like walk back and forth when when the

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<v Speaker 2>crosswalk was like there, yeah, and they were they were

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<v Speaker 2>pushing the limit, like seeing seeing what they could get.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was also my favorite part was the APD

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<v Speaker 2>officer who was sitting.

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<v Speaker 5>In his.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. My favorite part was, fuck, I gotta do

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<v Speaker 2>this about breaking down in the middle. I did hear

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about this? All right? Take three? Take three?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the APD officer that was sitting in his

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<v Speaker 2>ford explore on Ponts and at one point he calls

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<v Speaker 2>out on his you know, loud speaker, I'm not an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear I'm not an idiot. While he's backing up

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<v Speaker 2>on Ponts with his lights on, just like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? People are asking a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>They are already answered, I'm on an idiots shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was great. So I caught like the briefest

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<v Speaker 2>snippet of that audio, thankfully. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday night, after the Home Depot rally, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a jail vigil around ten pm for Lorraine at the

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<v Speaker 1>Rice Street Fulton County Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>So there there are two jails. There's Atlanta City Detention

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<v Speaker 2>Center and then there's Fulton County Jail, which we just

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<v Speaker 2>call Rice Street because it's off off Rice Street. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you get charged with criminal trespassed, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>misdemeanor charge, and typically you would go to Atlanta City

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<v Speaker 2>Detention Center, which still a jail is still terrible, but

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<v Speaker 2>relatively like better. Okay, Fulton County Jail is you know

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<v Speaker 2>atrocious it is, you know Leshawan Thompson. Of course that

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who was eating a lot in his cell

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<v Speaker 2>by bugs because of neglect, that is Rice Street Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Fulton County Jail. That's the Fulton County Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get worried that Lorraine is at Fulton County

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<v Speaker 2>Jail and not ACDC, which is pretty striking. So everybody

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<v Speaker 2>goes down to do a jail vigil and noise demo

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<v Speaker 2>for context.

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<v Speaker 1>Last September, Lashawan Thompson, a thirty five year old man,

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<v Speaker 1>was found dead after spending three months in an infested

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<v Speaker 1>Fulton County Jail psychiatric cell. His body was covered in

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand bug bites and insects were found in his mouth, ears, nose,

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<v Speaker 1>and all across his body. Such inhumane incidents are not

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<v Speaker 1>in irregularity in Fulton County Jail. Just earlier this month,

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty five year old named Christopher Smith died in

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<v Speaker 1>Fulton County Jail. He had been held in custody since

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<v Speaker 1>October sixth, twenty nineteen, without bond on several unspecified felony

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<v Speaker 1>and misdemeanor charges according to the County Sheriff's Office. Last month,

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen year old girl died in Fulton County custody

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<v Speaker 1>after being arrested on a minor misdemeanor charge. This past

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<v Speaker 1>year alone, six people have died in the Fulton County

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<v Speaker 1>jail system. People in Atlanta have been doing jail vigils

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<v Speaker 1>and noise demos for years and it's never really been

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. Cops might tell people to move off to

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<v Speaker 1>the side if the crowd gets to a certain size,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have typically gone on without issue. But this

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<v Speaker 1>time Fulton County deputies came out and declared that people

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<v Speaker 1>are not allowed to protest outside the jail and ordered

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to completely leave the parking lot and go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the other side of this big hill

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<v Speaker 1>off of Rice Street to jail property in order to

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<v Speaker 1>continue protesting, which no one was really keen on doing,

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<v Speaker 1>so this kind of game of chicken began.

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<v Speaker 2>They eventually they pull on a bunch more sheriff's deputies

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<v Speaker 2>and threatened arrest, So people started making their way up

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<v Speaker 2>the hill, linking arms and get to the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the hill and they're they're met with another group of

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<v Speaker 2>protesters who had tried to come down, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>stopped by police at the top of the hill. So

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<v Speaker 2>now the crowd size like essentially doubled. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>energy just goes through the roof. You know, both sides

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<v Speaker 2>are just going back and forth. This This deputy is

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<v Speaker 2>like completely overmatched, doesn't really They didn't seem like Fulton

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<v Speaker 2>County had a plan. You know, usually APD or the

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<v Speaker 2>cab they have some sort of protest planned. Fulton was

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<v Speaker 2>flying by the seat of their pants, and so all

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<v Speaker 2>of our cars were down at the bottom of the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>They were back in the right street parking lot. And

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<v Speaker 2>this this becomes like an issue because some of the

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<v Speaker 2>protesters cars are there, all of the media cars are there,

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<v Speaker 2>like down at the bottom of this hill, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not letting anyone go down there. And this woman shows

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<v Speaker 2>up to like put I think money on her son's

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<v Speaker 2>commissary car and they don't let her. Now she is

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<v Speaker 2>like they're just shutting down j oracial loud, Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So they finally first they're like we're gonna let you

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<v Speaker 2>go down one by one, and everyone's like hell no,

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<v Speaker 2>like we are not trusting you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, sure, sure, buddy, let's go, let's isolate isolated

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<v Speaker 1>move through this police fortress in an isolated venor.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. Uh So then they're like, okay, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>as a group. Yeah, okay, as long as you have

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<v Speaker 2>your vehicles down there, you can go as a group.

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<v Speaker 2>So they slowly start to make their way down.

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<v Speaker 6>They do not see in the next five minutes we

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<v Speaker 6>want to start.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to do. They get all the way to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom hill. They're in the parking lot and just

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<v Speaker 2>like on the edge of where the cars are, and

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of stop moving, and the shriff's deputy is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta keep moving, and so they start moving again

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<v Speaker 2>and then stop again, and then the shriff's deputy says,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, get them. And so then the deputy start

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<v Speaker 2>moving in to make a rest. And quickly, you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this march kind of becomes this backward moving thing. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see that. I'm moving my hands to showcasson,

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<v Speaker 2>but it becomes this backward moving thing up up the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 6>I couplot to be you in the street, who will

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<v Speaker 6>be taking ample cush get out the street, Get.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the street, will be taking in the crowd was

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<v Speaker 1>able to leave before anyone was detained, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a quite tense situation. The sort of dynamic we saw

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<v Speaker 1>at the jail vigil and home depot protest led it

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<v Speaker 1>directly into the next event on Friday morning, a previously

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<v Speaker 1>announced second protest outside of Cadence Bank in Midtown calling

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<v Speaker 1>on Cadence Bank to cancel the Atlanta Polace Foundation's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar construction loan. All Right, people had a protest

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday morning at Cadence Bank in Midtown Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>There's maybe like.

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<v Speaker 1>Around a dozen people here, uh, chanting outside of the building.

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<v Speaker 1>Also about a dozen ap the officers walking walking down

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<v Speaker 1>from up the street, preparing to meet the crowd. They're

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<v Speaker 1>moving in closer that they're walking in again people still.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's even touched touched the class door.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the people are just standing here on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that game you play with your cats where

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<v Speaker 2>they come at you but they stop when you're watching them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the game we're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we turn away the cops

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<v Speaker 1>advanced We like. This is also like half of like

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<v Speaker 1>the Loony Tunes gags. Is this they're doing a Michelin

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<v Speaker 1>frog all right, and they're they're now on the King's

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<v Speaker 1>Bank property.

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<v Speaker 2>They're start starting to advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Police were yelling at people that they couldn't touch any

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<v Speaker 1>of the steps leading up to the bank entrance, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you weren't allowed to lean against any hand rails

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<v Speaker 1>because the metal pole was bank property. So once again

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<v Speaker 1>we got this little game of back and forth, except

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<v Speaker 1>one side has guns and the power to rescue.

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<v Speaker 6>Property.

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<v Speaker 1>This cup said in the crowds trying to incite a riot,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels very much like what you saw I guess

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously I wasn't there. Where there's an object that becomes

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<v Speaker 2>this sacred goal and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're you're battling over the thing because the thing

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<v Speaker 1>has now been given.

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<v Speaker 2>Given something like me actual physical like presence, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing that you are now fighting for. It

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<v Speaker 2>becomes it becomes a symbolic in front of a building.

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<v Speaker 2>It don't matter, but the police gave it significant.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the police turn it into this like symbolic thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it now means more than a just just being stabbed.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was this camera guy who like kept kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stepping up and like pushing the envelope.

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<v Speaker 1>And eventually or activists put one foot on the steps,

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<v Speaker 1>being like, Okay, if you're gonna come after us for

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<v Speaker 1>putting a foot on the bank steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, come at us, like call the bluff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was like people yelling at the CoP's face

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<v Speaker 1>for like forty five minutes, maybe maybe longer. Time always

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<v Speaker 1>stretches during these sorts of things. It's hard to start

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it's hard to keep a sense of like

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<v Speaker 1>temporal stability, even just during during weeks of action. In general,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always hard to keep a sense of temporal stability.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the sense of time warps around. Days blend into

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<v Speaker 1>each other. A day feels like a week, a week

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a day. It's it's very it gets very fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets incredibly trippy, and you're like yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>exhaustion right like just compounds. There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that that feed into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite about a dozen people putting their foot on the

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<v Speaker 1>sacred steps, the police did not decide to arrest anyone

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<v Speaker 1>at this protest, and after about an hour of disruption,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd departed.

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<v Speaker 2>The week of action.

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<v Speaker 1>Ended much like the last one, with the final rally

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<v Speaker 1>being the Youth March back at Brownwood Park. Lorraine just

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<v Speaker 1>got out on bail and spoke about the jail conditions

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<v Speaker 1>to the crowd of one hundred or so people gathered

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<v Speaker 1>in the park on the morning of July first.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want people to forget that our movement

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<v Speaker 3>is connected with lots of other stone, one of.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is prison abolition.

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<v Speaker 7>And the idea that our so quote criminal justice system

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<v Speaker 7>is such that people get just shoved behind bars.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to see them. We don't care what

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<v Speaker 3>happens to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And even if they're not hadn't gone to trial yet.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're in a jail awaiting hearing or awaiting a.

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<v Speaker 2>Trial, they're treated like they already want the.

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<v Speaker 5>People that they're criminals, we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to care as much about them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Lorraine said that she was in a crowded holding cell

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty two other women and just a few metal benches,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else. This is where nearly two dozen people had

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, had to eat, use the bathroom, all in

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<v Speaker 1>one place for days on end. Women were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sit or sleep on either of the hard benches or

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. Some were attempting to use menstrul pads in

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<v Speaker 1>place of a mattress. If they were lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be asleep. They were woken up at two am for

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast and then again at four am for head counting.

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<v Speaker 3>They were so full, I didn't have bloom for the

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<v Speaker 3>people that were being arrested, so they were in this

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<v Speaker 3>holding sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them been there three days.

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<v Speaker 7>It was something like eighteen feet by six feet across.

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<v Speaker 2>The last six feet were behind a divider that had

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<v Speaker 2>a toy as toy, so it was even less. The

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<v Speaker 2>prison system is every day doing these kind of being

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<v Speaker 2>u and treatment to people that get arrested or not

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<v Speaker 2>yet guilty of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Student organizers and parents also briefly spoke on why people

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting against cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to live in a city.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to live in a country in a

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<v Speaker 5>world that prioritizes the protection of private property through murder

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<v Speaker 5>in state violence over the fundamental building blocks of life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I think we need to be focusing on giving people

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<v Speaker 5>places to live, giving people food to eat, water to drink,

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<v Speaker 5>not on giving the police playgrounds where they can blow.

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<v Speaker 2>Up bombs and shoot their guns.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why all of us together here need to

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<v Speaker 5>come together be as one here in beautiful community, with children,

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<v Speaker 5>with elders, everything in between, doing this amazing community. I

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<v Speaker 5>love being out here with y'all. It's so much fun

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<v Speaker 5>to just like be working the popcorn machines and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why we're all here together, because we know

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<v Speaker 5>that community is the key for us to stop cop City,

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<v Speaker 5>Stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as we fight to.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop top City, we are fighting for investment in the

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<v Speaker 3>things that make families thrive in this city. Were telling

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<v Speaker 3>all dreat chickens, were telling the little police foundations, and

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<v Speaker 3>we command that money be reinvested, and they're housing for

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<v Speaker 3>the people, child care for the people, education for the people,

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<v Speaker 3>health care for the people. But those are the things

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<v Speaker 3>that make our communities truly safe. And if they won't

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<v Speaker 3>give it to us, we're gonna build those networks of

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<v Speaker 3>care in our communities ourselves. That is what makes days

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<v Speaker 3>like today so beautiful, the fact that the people have

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<v Speaker 3>the capacity to feel and feed the people. The people

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<v Speaker 3>have the capacity to make sure that people say hi, drating.

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<v Speaker 3>People have the capacity to give each other medical care.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we build out those networks of care, we

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<v Speaker 3>make the government irrelevance.

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<v Speaker 2>You try to tell us what they do all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we continue to build people's power, well they

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<v Speaker 3>have to say don't even matter.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you ready to build that.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of world?

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<v Speaker 1>As people got ready to depart, the energy was noticeably

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<v Speaker 1>higher than most other events that week. All right, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Saturday morning on July first. This is the last

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<v Speaker 1>day of the sixth Week of Action. The Youth Rally

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<v Speaker 1>just left Brownwood Park and is now marching through East

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Village. Shortly before the Youth Rally, news started to

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<v Speaker 1>circulate that early early that morning, just after midnight, several

0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta police motorcycles and cop cars suffered mysterious damages, which

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<v Speaker 1>possibly could have contributed to the more bolsterous energy among

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<v Speaker 1>some of the radical attendees.

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<v Speaker 2>People are driving by and honking in support.

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<v Speaker 1>As about seventy five people, maybe one hundred or marked

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<v Speaker 1>as about seventy five or one hundred people are our

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<v Speaker 1>marching next to Metropolitan Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a fire truck would pull their air horn. The

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<v Speaker 2>fire trucks were kind of busy last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I'm not sure the fire trucks were busy doing

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<v Speaker 1>what There's well, it seems like a lot of police

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycles were found to be set on fire at the

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<v Speaker 1>sight of the old Police Trading Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounded like some police suck cruisers were wrecked somewhere else

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<v Speaker 2>in the city too.

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<v Speaker 1>On Memorial Drive Southeast, it sounded like three cop cars

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<v Speaker 1>were also smashed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Is you think there's something going around? Is it contagious? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire crews were a little bit busy last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Spontaneous vehicle vandalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's certainly one way to end this week of action.

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<v Speaker 1>This definitely feels like the most positive part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Week of action so far. Yeah, people have been marching

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<v Speaker 1>for about twenty minutes now. The march is now turned

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<v Speaker 1>down Glenwood and is heading back towards Brownwood Park. No

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<v Speaker 1>police presence at all so far. There was just complete

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen a single cop car in this in

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<v Speaker 1>this section of town. There's also three less cop cars

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta than there usually is.

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<v Speaker 2>So that might have something to do with it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was from this zone too, that the second one where

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<v Speaker 2>the cop cars are it was like a mile and

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<v Speaker 2>a half away. Yeah, it's very very close, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very different than what we saw on last Saturday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>where I like even on my way in I saw

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<v Speaker 2>APD here every you know twenty feet yeah, and do

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<v Speaker 2>not see a single Nope. APD vehicle is notable.

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<v Speaker 1>The youth rally that closed the last week of action

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<v Speaker 1>in March kind of felt like the end of an era.

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<v Speaker 1>This one on July first felt very different, much more

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<v Speaker 1>like the beginning of a new era. After a very

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<v Speaker 1>scattered week, the movement finally started to feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple directions to grow. This week definitely started on

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, a muted note, and it's ended with

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more directionality for the future and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more positivity.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people were able to think of ways that

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<v Speaker 1>the movement can evolve and grow from here and recognize

0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.879
<v Speaker 1>the necessity for that and now change and yet recognized

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the necessity for change, and people are ready to continue

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and evolve as the situation on the ground is also changing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean adaptability was was a part of the

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<v Speaker 2>movement from the get go. Yes, just I think we

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.879
<v Speaker 2>got the movement got very tied to certain modes of

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<v Speaker 2>operation that are not available anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for the past like a few months, people

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<v Speaker 1>have been it felt like people have been playing on

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<v Speaker 1>the police's like board, like they've been they've been following that,

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<v Speaker 1>and both both of the actual last night and the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of talks that are happening throughout the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is probably going to change. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We are about a block away from Brownwood Park on

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<v Speaker 1>Portland Avenue and Gresham Avenue, where there is pizza and

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>water waiting. That is, that is I'm excited for water.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can have hot pizza right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would just faint, but cold water is certainly, certainly,

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 1>enticely certainly. Yeah, and there's music back here in Brownwood.

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<v Speaker 1>Tables set up, giving out literature, giving out food, water,

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 1>lots of bubbles. Earlier, earlier, at the earlier, at the

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<v Speaker 1>rally before the march, there was a water balloon fight

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:45.640
<v Speaker 1>which was very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I left it. I don't know why you've stayed

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 2>around the water move. I took my laptop and left.

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was there was a few very close

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>moments there. But yeah, no, there's food.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots of signs, banners, lots of a lot of

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Little Caesar's pizza. There was much more energy here compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the kickoff rally, which happened in the very same

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<v Speaker 1>park exactly a week beforehand, which felt sort of reversed

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 1>from the previous week of action this past March, which

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because like last week of action, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kickoff rally was like the biggest thing, was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest energy point, and the youth rally was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the more like muted clothes and this has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been inversed.

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<v Speaker 2>Which honestly for when you're looking at like what has

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<v Speaker 2>happened over the last few months, maybe reading leaning out

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<v Speaker 2>with a high note is yeah, is the ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that We're also ending with the bouncy castle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for the full flip, we have to end with

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<v Speaker 2>the bouncy castle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, although we should move the bouncy castle to eight

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<v Speaker 1>ninety Memorial Drive Southeast, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop.

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<v Speaker 1>After the youth rally, Matt and I got some coffee

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in Eastern It's a village and talked about the broad

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>strokes of the week and the general state of the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I think this week started with a

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions being had and it's ended with some

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>of those questions being being answered and people figuring out

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that to answer some of some of those other questions.

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>The answer will will will take the form of actions

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that happened in these next few months. And I feel

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like there's it's it's it's ended with a bit more

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 1>directionality than when it began, which is interesting for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week of action. Yeah, it was needed, though it was

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like at like the first rally just felt so weird

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that for the first tick offf rally that the first day,

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<v Speaker 1>that the first few days felt just very very like

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<v Speaker 1>very scattered. It was unclear how what was happening was

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>related to stop in Coff City. And in some ways

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 1>this week of action feels like the reverse of the

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>last week of action, where like the last week of action,

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it started with a point of directionality, like we are

0:23:58.119 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>going to retake Wallani and they did.

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, we are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To do an action to physically stop the construction of

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<v Speaker 1>cop City, and they did, like they was doing all

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>these things. And I think that week ended with more

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>questions than what it started with because the police did

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the rate of the forest, there was a lot of

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>there was more uncertainty by the end of the week

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>because there was so much over policing. There was a

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of changes through throughout that week,

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think this week started in like an inverse

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>is people started this week with a directionless sense, and

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of questions going into this week,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like some people have started to kind

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of figure out how the movement will evolve in these

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>next few months, and it feels like people have a

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>better idea of where of like how they're going to

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>move forward in these next three months six months, and

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like the month and a half when construction is slated

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to begin in August.

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Later to begain and you know, this referendum is looking

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like it's doing pretty well, so hopefully that that does delay.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, of course we also ended with the bouncy casts.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>We can't do it so acknowledging the importance of bouncy

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>castles to this movement, or at least to Garrison, And.

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I yes, I think the other thing that makes it

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>interesting in terms of this week being an inverse of

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the last week is that you know, on the last week,

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 1>day two, there was this very.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Fiery action with vehicles being smashed.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And then on the second to last day, which is

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like late last night, either like late Friday, night or

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>early Saturday morning at like one am, two am, there

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>was three Atlanta police cars smashed by Reynoldstown I believe. Yeah,

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>just right like a mile and a half away from

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>from Brownwood Park, YEP and close to the airport at

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the old Police training Academy. There was a it looks

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>like a good fleet of Atlanta Police motorcycles.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where the motorcycle Like, that's where the motors.

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>The credit quarters is outside and those motorcycles are going

0:25:58.880 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to be no longer functioning.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they are all charged to a crisp with like

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>incendiary devices found there.

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>One of the most noticeable differences about this week of

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>action compared to the previous one was the turnout out

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 1>of state support did not show up in similar numbers

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as to the last week of action in March. There's

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of potential reasons for this. This week may

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>have simply happened too soon, It coincided with other events

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 1>across the country. Its messaging may not have reflected an

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>adequate level of planning. There was probably some demoralization from

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the ninety acres of trees cut down and with entrenchment.

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Creek Park closed and under police occupation. Launching options in

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta was more of a mystery for those coming from

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>outside the city. More time away from the death of

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Tortigita is probably also a factor. People in Atlanta may

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>have to reconcile that the movement may not have as

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>much widespread national support and all the ground numbers as

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it did last March.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>This is the smallest week of action we've had in

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 2>over a year in Duisa memory. This is the smallest

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 2>one I've I've reported on. Right, Yeah, you know, I

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>think it might have even been comparable to the first

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 2>week of Action, like it was around there, but it

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>also felt more local. It did feel way more local.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Once you go from like something so big as the

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>last week of action to something more constrained, that is

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 2>that sets a like a vibe shift. Yeah, that I

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>think you've got to kind of come to terms with.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's one of those moments where you're like, Okay,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>we are in a different paradigm.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fewer numbers is not necessarily a bad thing. A

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>group of five to ten people can sometimes be much

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>more effective at doing certain things than a crowd of

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>two hundred or even a thousand. You just have to

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>specifically prepare for the numbers that you know that you'll

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>have for such a long time, I felt like this

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>was this movement was extremely effective in delaying construction like

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that was like extremely effective deadline year and a half

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>deadlines kept getting pushed back every single thing. Like the

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>occupation was very good at doing what it attempted to do,

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and at a certain point that became no longer viable.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>And things are now changing gears. Yeah, and you have

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to allow yourself that evolution like that.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>It has to the same way people started occupying the

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>forest in October after the city council stuff in September

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Like as the things change, you have

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to change your tactics with it.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>And as I mean, as revolutionary strategy goes, that's just

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that should be a baseline and adapting to what the

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>situation is and not what the situation what you want

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>it to be.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think more people are talking about that

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>this week and realizing that like maybe even another week

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of Action does not make sense for this new paradigm

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that we're existing in Atlanta. I've talked about the possibility

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of changing the week of Action structure before in previous episodes.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And I really only brought that up because that's what

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>people were conveying to me at the time. And this

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>has continued to be a topic of debate both during

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and since June.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you do with the week of Action format?

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And I know that we kind of talked about this

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>during the last YEP recap episode where you brought up

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>that that might have been the last Week of Action,

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't.

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't because as I was making as episodes this

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Week of Action what was announced, I've heard more people

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>say that they don't think the Week of Action format

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is applicable anymore more. I've heard more people say that

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>than I did last week. What if Atlanta has kind

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of outgrown this format? This format's proved to be very

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>useful in these past few years. There's been very positive parts,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it's been very negative parts. And what if there's time

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>for What if it's time for something like completely new,

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>something that the police don't know how to respond.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>To, because something that matches the new paradigm. Yeah, because

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the other thing.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like people have been doing this for like two

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>years now, Like not only have people gotten used to

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a pattern, but like police have gotten used to a pattern,

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like police have gotten very good at resting the week

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of action, like they have, they have had two years

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to practice, they have they know how to do this now,

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So why why keep playing on their battlefield?

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Why why keep doing what APD is expecting you to do.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>That's part of what's you know, interesting about this resurgence

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>of these nocturnal hit and run sabotages that are unannounced.

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>That we saw the ones earlier in this week with

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the with the Brent Scarborough's machines. Then we saw the

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.239
<v Speaker 1>APD vehicles get hit last night, So perhaps there there

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>will be more of that. Perhaps they'll be just new

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>things that we can't even predict, Like there's so many

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>other avenues that things could that things could go. Even

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>during the use March, Matt and I were wondering if

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>this new spike in sabotage actions would break the spell

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and we'd see a return of this type of action

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>happening more frequently. You know.

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it's the sort of direct action that has really

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>been missing over the last several months. Yeah, and no,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And we've been talking about a lot this past week.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about how there's been a lot of these

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>sorts of like nocturnal hit and run direct actions, and

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>late last night it seems like there was a resurgence.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how that continues, you know, after the

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Week of Action, if it continues, or if it was

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a Week of Action inspired element. But I have a

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 2>feeling we'll see some of those continue to crop up.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and this did indeed turn out to be the case,

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>all right. I will do my best to go over

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a short list of the claimed attacks against contractors, building Copcity,

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and corporations that fund the Atlanta Police Foundation from after

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>this week of action. On a July first, over half

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a dozen Bank of America buildings in the Bay Area

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>where vandalized and a dozen or so ATMs were smashed.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>In late June to early July, group of friends visited

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the home of copp City architect Anthony Kenny in Norcross, Georgia,

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>while another group paid a visit to Ambrush baseil Walla,

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a member of the board of trustees for the Atlanta

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Police Foundation. People painted messages around their homes and tires

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>were slashed. On the night of July second, Keith Johnson,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Regional president for Brassfield and Gory, the contracting

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>firm who broadly oversaw the destruction of the forest and

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>who has decided to physically build cop City, also received

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a mysterious visit late in the night. An unknown number

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of people evaded security guards and spread blood red paint

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>around his pool and left a message reading cop City

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>will never be built. Drop the contract and you can't hide.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>According to an online communicay, rotten fish and dirty motor

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>oil were left hidden somewhere on the property. Part of

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the communicay, addressed to Keith reads quote, we know things

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>haven't been feeling great in the office. You're losing money.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Subcontractors are upset. There are fractures everywhere in the cop

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>City project, and all of that weight and procarity is

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>on your fragile shoulders. Each time you think of us,

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>or see the reminders we left you, remember this is

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>your own doing. You can make all of this stop

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>by dropping the Copcity contract. On July fourth, in lieu

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of fireworks, people claimed to have set two Brent Scarborough

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>machines on fire in broad daylight due to the lack

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of security during daytime. Scarborough is the subcontractor who physically

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>leveled the ninety sum acres of Forest in the Wallani

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>The same day in Michigan, Chase Bank ATMs were sabotaged

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>with glue and the bank was vandalized with messages of resistance.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Chase Bank's head of Regional Investment Banking serves on the

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>board of the Atlanta Police Foundation. And on July eighth,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a Bank of America in Berkeley was vandalized with stopcop

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>city slogans and three ATMs were smashed. During the start

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of this little wave of actions, the Mayor's office and

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>APD were none too happy, so on July fifth, Mayor

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Andre Dickens and Atlanta Police Chief Darren Scherbaum put on

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a press conference with the ATS, Georgia Bureau of Investigation

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and FBI to discuss the recent surge of direct actions.

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 6>Our public safety facilities and property were the target of

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 6>an extremely violent and dangerous attack on Saturday, July first,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 6>and there were several other destructive acts of extreme vandalism

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 6>on public and private properly property that occurred that we

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 6>have reason to believe are related to the construction of

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 6>the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center in Decab County. The

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 6>current Atlanta Police Training Center at one eighty south Side

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 6>Industrial Parkway was set up in the early morning hours

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 6>of Saturday, July first. The targeted attack utilized extremely dangerous

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 6>homemade incendiary devices to set a fire to the building

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 6>and completely destroyed eight police motorcycle motorcycles. As shocking as

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 6>this is, this was not an isolated incident of violence.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 6>This group actually took credit for these incidents and they

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 6>stated it as I quote, we are vengeful wing nuts

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 6>with nothing left to lose.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 7>Prior to that, about one hour prior to the event

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 7>of one of the South Side industrial we had another

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 7>precinct that was targeted in the city. This is our

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 7>Path Force Precinct, Memorial Drive and the eight hundred block

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 7>of the Memorial. These officers control the belt line which

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 7>many of you all visit frequently. At that location, we

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 7>had multiple windows broken on police vehicles. We believe the

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 7>intent was to set those vehicles on fire as well.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 7>Half and fire off of the of the red fuse

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 7>on the ground that has been used by this group

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 7>in the past to set police vehicles on fire that

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 7>was dropped when a citizen observed the criminal actions progress

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 7>and actually interrupted the crimes that were occurring there. So

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 7>we believe that the fire attack that was planned on

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 7>Memorial Drive was thwarted by an observant citizen. A short

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 7>time later, about an hour, we had the fire at

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 7>our facility on Southside Industrial. Our training center has housed

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 7>there most recently, and then our special operations precinct is there.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 7>The intent was for all forty to be destroyed, and

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 7>had all those forty vehicles caught on fire, that police

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 7>facility would have been gravely damaged, if not destroyed in

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 7>the fire. And we are thankful for a police officer

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 7>that saw this unfolding and likely interrupted that plan for

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 7>being able to play out in its fullness. There's an

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 7>indication that this was likely committed by the exact same intevisions.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 7>We will let and see where.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 5>The fact tickets.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>According to Chief Sheerbaum and Mayor Dickens, the actions against

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police on July first, over the course of just

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a few hours equaled over were three hundred thousand dollars

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>in damages as.

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 7>We're around thirty five thousand, and they once you outfit

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 7>us a little bit more so, do that times eight,

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 7>that's going to put you in the ballpark.

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that's not even including the rest of the

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 6>smoke and damage. And other things, and the broken windows

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 6>on the police car, etc.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 7>So the group that struck this weekend is a dedicated

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 7>group of professional anarchists, and I know that may seem

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 7>a contradiction in terms. So this is a group of

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 7>individuals who don't pray, play by any rules, and we'll

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 7>go to any links they need to to carry out.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 7>And this is their words. We will wage a campaign

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 7>of violence and destruction, and so what we saw this

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 7>weekend was part of that campaign.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>It's always funny when police make anarchists sound very cool

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and scary. But Chief Scherbaum also pretty clearly explained the

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>reasoned methodology behind the pressure campaigns targeting contractors and APF

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>financial sponsors.

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<v Speaker 7>We know from the postings of this group their intent

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 7>to stop the Public Safety Trading Center has left the

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 7>democratic pro sess of the city Council and is now

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 7>moving to intimidate and force out contractors that are committed

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 7>to building the Public Safety training Center this weekend. During

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 7>the week of action, three different locations private residences were targeted.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 7>Tires were flattened on contractors home. A home of an

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 7>executive for Brassalgory was significantly vanalyzed. In another jurisdiction. And

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 7>then we had another location where graffiti was used to intimidate.

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<v Speaker 7>And then yesterday morning, slightly after seven o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 7>a location at four eighteen McDonough Boulevard belonging to Brent

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 7>Scarborough's company, which is a key provider of work and

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 7>this training centers was also targeted and attacked and equipment

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 7>was set on fire at that location. These acts are

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 7>of a small, determined group. These are small individuals from

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 7>across the country that are using violence and fear and

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 7>intimidation to stop a public safety training center. And this

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 7>group cannot hide behind the dark of night or the

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 7>home address and feel that they are not going to

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 7>be held accountable. I have standing at this podium with

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<v Speaker 7>me today representings from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the ATF,

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 7>and we are also partner with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 7>These agencies are working together to determine where federal laws

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 7>violated this weekend and ensure that the full expertise of

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 7>American law enforcement is present right here in Atlanta to

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 7>stop this group, stop this group across the region, stop

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 7>their ability to impact the public safety network of Atlanta

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 7>and hold them accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite continued threats from law enforcement, the only arrests that

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>have happened so far in relation to this movement are

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>from daytime protests, forest raids, and bail fund organizers. We've

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>yet to see anyone arrested in Atlanta for doing like

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a specific one of these nocturnal like nights sabotage actions.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>That has not happened.

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the scariest indictments everyone's expecting are going

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to come in these next few years, after you give

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the FBI two three, four years to investigate, after you

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>interview or people whove been arrested, see if anyone stitches,

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>if anyone turns state's witness. But so far, it's been

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>safer to do nocturnal sabotage actions than it has been

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to attend a public protest. And that is an interesting

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>paradigm as well, is that no one's actually got arrested

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>for lighting like cop cars and fire in the middle

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>of the night. No one's been arrested for sabotaging equipment

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night. All of the arrests

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that are you know, are being tied to like violent

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>crime are from like daytime protests, which is an interesting

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>factor about this movement. Direct action in the most surveiled

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>city in America can be tricky, and even just managing

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>cell phones and Internet search data is a huge factor.

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.479
<v Speaker 1>But as much real security there is out in the world,

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the amount of security theater is arguably a stronger aspect

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>in getting people to not go out and do direct action.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>The implicit threat of the panopticon is often enough to

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>stifle people's potential action, but these things are beatable. Guides

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>for how to do it exist either at your local

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>anarchist book fair or online as long as the computer

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is running tour browser and a reputable VPN.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>The Internet.

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>The internet's a fun place. That's there is a lot

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of no blogs and sites and the zines that tell

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you how to do that. I don't know, I mean

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>they people always make mistakes, People get caught sometimes make mistakes.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It's risky, and there are cameras everywhere in the city.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 2>You have to Yeah, some of them, don't worry. But

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like, do you really want to play Russian Roulette?

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a part of that's a part of when

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>people like plan these nocturnal actions is like just because

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it's nighttime, doesn't mean you're not sick getting watched or

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you're not.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Like it's there's a lot of things that go into that.

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of ways to get got whether you're

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 1>like buying supplies and you keep a receipt and people

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>please find a receipt, They track back, they find security

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>acount of you'll be purchasing things and then they're like, oh,

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this bottle is bought it this place because you have

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 1>this receipt in your house and blah blahlah blah blah.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Like there's there's lots of ways that that stuff happens.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>So like I'm not going to give a guide on

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>how to do it right now, but like anarchists have

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>been doing this for a long time.

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 2>After you do that crime, you've never done that crime.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's not something that you do as a person,

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like you cease to become a person, you've become like

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you are that action.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>It is subsumed in the action, and then and then

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>it's you never talked about it ever again. It's gone

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>or else you end up going to prison. Yeah, and

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>risking like not just your safety, the safety everyone's safety

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just by remembering that you did it.

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>No you know, like these become standards and anarchist communities,

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like you never brag about something, You never allude to

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>anything like it's it's it's not it's not a game

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 1>like you're it's not a game. You're it is your

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>your life and other people's lives on the line. When

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>when when you're doing stuff like this and it's yeah,

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>you you never do it to like cool. You never

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>do it to brag about it like that. That's just

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>not how this works, which is why there's kind of

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a much more like kind of insular culture around some anarchists,

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>especially anarchists to identify as like illegalists or like the

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>types of like like green nihilists or green anarchists. That

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of pioneered the militancy of this movement both slightly

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>even slightly before the first City Council vote and then

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely after the first City Council vote where we saw

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a massive explosion no pun intended in the number of

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>type of sabotages happening in the Wlani Forest. Yeah, which

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that drew a lot of anarchists do come

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta because it.

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh, they're doing a thing that's been the

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 2>thing since the end of the green scare.

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, this is like the thing that I believe

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>in that this is like, this is my politics. Now

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a spot where I can do my politics. And

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 1>still no one's been caught for that. And I think

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that that was a big part of why Atlanta got

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so big last year, was that people had the ability

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>to like live free in the forest and then do

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>crazy shit at night. Like you can you live in

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this like autonomous zone during the day. You're able, whether

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you're you have housing instability, whether you just want like

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>an escape from like horrible police state living. Like where

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in whatever, wherever the city you're in, you can go

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>live in the Wilane Forest. You can live in a tent,

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you can have friends, you can defend this force during

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, and then you can do crazy, crazy shit

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>at night. And that drew a lot of people to Atlanta,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And now with the forest not being there, that also

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>changes that that changes the type of people who are come,

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>who are who want to come to the city because

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that that was a big draw for people And now

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that that's no longer an option, you can't really sleep

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in the Wilani Forest as easily anymore.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that changes the types.

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Of people who want to come to Atlanta and who

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna like do crazy shit because that's just how And.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Further on safety, they're not here. Yeah, no, absolutely.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>As the referendum is hoping to stop cop City by

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>having Atlanta residents vote on whether to cancel the land lease,

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>other in the Diverse movement have continued their efforts to

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>pressure contractors and funders to drop out of the cop

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>City project. This tactic has already demonstrated its ability to succeed,

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>with Reeve's Young Construction dropping out of the project in

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>April of twenty twenty two, and some material suppliers have

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>since cut ties with cop City. This is something that

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>APD Chief Darren Shecherbaum certainly seems worried about.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 7>This effort of fear was not going to succeed, and

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 7>the coalition of law enforcement from the GBI to the FBI,

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 7>to the ATF, Atlanta Police Department, and a slew of

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 7>regional agencies is going to stop that campaign so it

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 7>doesn't happen and individuals.

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 5>Do not leave the project.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>On July second, protesters in Minnesota visited the homes of

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Atlas Technical Consultants employees during daylight, people marched around the

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods with instruments and banners, knocked on doors, talked with neighbors,

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and left a letter of demands to drop the contract

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and cut ties with the Atlanta Police Foundation. The project

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>manager for Atlas Technical Consultants engaged with protesters in the

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>street and told them that Atlas had indeed already dropped

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>out of the project due to mounting pressure than we want.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 8>Atlas is no longer involved.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Why they decide to get out of it?

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 8>We stopped doing that. Why because you guys are fucking

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 8>nightmares and you broke all our fucking windows.

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>So you remember, I don't care what you want to say,

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 2>So you.

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 8>Know my house and knock on my door and do

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 8>this ship. My company is not involved in this, So

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 8>get the fuck away from me. Okay, I'm glad.

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 2>Alright.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 1>A few days later, Atlas and Long Engineering released an

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>official statement saying that they would no longer be working

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 1>on the cop City project. Anarchists and those on the

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>left in general seem to have a hard time calling wins,

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure if it gets any more definitive

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>than that audio clip in showing that this type of

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>direct action can absolutely work in getting businesses to leave

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the project. In the next episode, we'll talk more about

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the referendum, the city's attempts to divide the movement, and

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the growing pr battle over the fate of Copcity.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 2>See you on the other side.

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