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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.

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Speaker 1: This is part two of my mini series about what's

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Speaker 1: been happening this summer in Atlanta to stop cop City.

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Speaker 1: Last episode we left off with the attempted march from

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Speaker 1: Gresham Park to Entrenchman Creek Park, which some might say

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Speaker 1: was a disappointment, but it also gave everyone more clarity

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Speaker 1: about the current state of these types of direct action

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Speaker 1: marches in Atlanta and the necessity for evolution. The main

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Speaker 1: event on Thursday, June twenty ninth was a protest outside

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Speaker 1: the Home Depot in the upscale retail district off of

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Speaker 1: Ponce de Leon Avenue. Home Depot is one of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Police Foundation's financial backers.

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Speaker 2: There had been a rumor that Home Depot was going

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Speaker 2: to be close earlier in the day. I got there

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Speaker 2: four thirty. It wasn't closed, so I didn't see any signage.

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Speaker 2: So I went and parked my car and came back

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Speaker 2: and like, I think I got out there for fifty

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Speaker 2: and people were starting to line up along the road, like, uh,

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Speaker 2: there's a Starbucks. And they were lining up along ponts

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Speaker 2: next to the Starbucks. And you know, I'm I'm talking

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Speaker 2: to them watching this. They're chanting, they're they're pulling out banners,

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Speaker 2: and we get a call that they are arresting Lorraine Fontana.

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Speaker 2: So Lorraine Fontana is a seventy six year old activist

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta, and she's great like she she pops up everywhere.

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Speaker 2: She's beloved by everyone. And so we get this call

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Speaker 2: that Lorraine Fontana is being arrested, and I bolts as

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Speaker 2: far as my little legs will take me, and then

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Speaker 2: I have to stop and catch my breath, like right

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Speaker 2: before I get there. But Lorrain and one other person

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Speaker 2: were arrested in the parking lot right outside the Home

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Speaker 2: Depot's store.

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Speaker 3: Called for brays here and why anybody protests in the.

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Speaker 2: Store when they start reading now the layer I asked,

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Speaker 2: the boy handed the practices and the time I also.

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Speaker 4: Learning telling them how people cannot want their faces or side.

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Speaker 1: After protesters left the store, they stood by a corner

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Speaker 1: in the parking lot to holding signs, where they were

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Speaker 1: then approached by APD officers, who then arrested two people

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Speaker 1: without warning.

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Speaker 2: It does kind of just show APD like basically doing

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Speaker 2: exactly what they would with anyone, except in this case

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Speaker 2: it's a seventy six year old woman who's like five

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Speaker 2: or four eleven or something like.

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Speaker 1: That, Like, yeah, no, I mean it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were like surprised that this happened, Like how

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Speaker 1: could the police do this? I think others were like

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Speaker 1: not as surprised, be like no, it's the APD. They

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Speaker 1: like it was a good demonstration for people being like

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Speaker 1: showing that they do not care. They don't really care

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Speaker 1: if you're a seventy seven year old woman or if

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Speaker 1: you're a nineteen year old eco terrorist, they're gonna treat.

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Speaker 2: You roughly the same. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After Lorraine's arrest, more and more people began showing up

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Speaker 1: across the street from Home Depot calling for their divestment

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Speaker 1: from the Atlanta Police Foundation.

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Speaker 2: It got up to like thirty maybe forty people mostly

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Speaker 2: just like chanting on the sidewalks sidewatch, but then they

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Speaker 2: started to like walk back and forth when when the

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Speaker 2: crosswalk was like there, yeah, and they were they were

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Speaker 2: pushing the limit, like seeing seeing what they could get.

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Speaker 2: But there was also my favorite part was the APD

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Speaker 2: officer who was sitting.

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Speaker 5: In his.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. My favorite part was, fuck, I gotta do

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Speaker 2: this about breaking down in the middle. I did hear

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Speaker 2: a little bit about this? All right? Take three? Take three?

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There was the APD officer that was sitting in his

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Speaker 2: ford explore on Ponts and at one point he calls

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Speaker 2: I swear I'm not an idiot. While he's backing up

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Speaker 2: on Ponts with his lights on, just like what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? People are asking a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: They are already answered, I'm on an idiots shirt.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was great. So I caught like the briefest

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Speaker 2: snippet of that audio, thankfully. That's funny.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday night, after the Home Depot rally, there was

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Speaker 1: a jail vigil around ten pm for Lorraine at the

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Speaker 1: Rice Street Fulton County Jail.

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Speaker 2: So there there are two jails. There's Atlanta City Detention

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Speaker 2: when you get charged with criminal trespassed, it's like a

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Speaker 2: misdemeanor charge, and typically you would go to Atlanta City

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Speaker 2: Detention Center, which still a jail is still terrible, but

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Speaker 2: relatively like better. Okay, Fulton County Jail is you know

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Speaker 2: atrocious it is, you know Leshawan Thompson. Of course that

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Speaker 2: That's the Fulton County Jail. That's the Fulton County Jail.

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Speaker 2: So we get worried that Lorraine is at Fulton County

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Speaker 2: goes down to do a jail vigil and noise demo

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Speaker 2: for context.

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Speaker 1: Last September, Lashawan Thompson, a thirty five year old man,

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Speaker 1: was found dead after spending three months in an infested

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Speaker 1: Fulton County Jail psychiatric cell. His body was covered in

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Speaker 1: a thousand bug bites and insects were found in his mouth, ears, nose,

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Speaker 1: and all across his body. Such inhumane incidents are not

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Speaker 1: in irregularity in Fulton County Jail. Just earlier this month,

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Speaker 1: a thirty five year old named Christopher Smith died in

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Speaker 1: Fulton County Jail. He had been held in custody since

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Speaker 1: October sixth, twenty nineteen, without bond on several unspecified felony

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Speaker 1: and misdemeanor charges according to the County Sheriff's Office. Last month,

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Speaker 1: a nineteen year old girl died in Fulton County custody

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Speaker 1: after being arrested on a minor misdemeanor charge. This past

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Speaker 1: year alone, six people have died in the Fulton County

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Speaker 1: jail system. People in Atlanta have been doing jail vigils

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Speaker 1: and noise demos for years and it's never really been

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Speaker 1: a problem. Cops might tell people to move off to

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Speaker 1: but they have typically gone on without issue. But this

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Speaker 1: everyone to completely leave the parking lot and go all

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Speaker 1: the way to the other side of this big hill

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Speaker 1: so this kind of game of chicken began.

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Speaker 2: They eventually they pull on a bunch more sheriff's deputies

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Speaker 2: and threatened arrest, So people started making their way up

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Speaker 2: protesters who had tried to come down, but they were

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Speaker 2: now the crowd size like essentially doubled. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 2: like completely overmatched, doesn't really They didn't seem like Fulton

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Speaker 2: County had a plan. You know, usually APD or the

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Speaker 2: flying by the seat of their pants, and so all

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Speaker 2: They were back in the right street parking lot. And

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Speaker 2: this this becomes like an issue because some of the

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Speaker 2: protesters cars are there, all of the media cars are there,

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Speaker 2: like down at the bottom of this hill, and they're

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Speaker 2: not letting anyone go down there. And this woman shows

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Speaker 2: up to like put I think money on her son's

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Speaker 2: like they're just shutting down j oracial loud, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: So they finally first they're like we're gonna let you

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Speaker 2: go down one by one, and everyone's like hell no,

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Speaker 2: like we are not trusting you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, buddy, let's go, let's isolate isolated

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Speaker 1: move through this police fortress in an isolated venor.

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Speaker 2: Here. Uh So then they're like, okay, you can go

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Speaker 2: as a group. Yeah, okay, as long as you have

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Speaker 2: So they slowly start to make their way down.

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Speaker 6: They do not see in the next five minutes we

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Speaker 2: We have to do. They get all the way to

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Speaker 2: they kind of stop moving, and the shriff's deputy is like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta keep moving, and so they start moving again

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Speaker 2: and then stop again, and then the shriff's deputy says,

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Speaker 2: all right, get them. And so then the deputy start

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Speaker 2: moving in to make a rest. And quickly, you know this,

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Speaker 2: this march kind of becomes this backward moving thing. Yeah

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Speaker 2: I can't see that. I'm moving my hands to showcasson,

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Speaker 2: but it becomes this backward moving thing up up the hill.

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Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 6: I couplot to be you in the street, who will

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Speaker 6: be taking ample cush get out the street, Get.

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Speaker 1: Out the street, will be taking in the crowd was

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Speaker 1: able to leave before anyone was detained, but it was

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Speaker 1: a quite tense situation. The sort of dynamic we saw

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Speaker 1: at the jail vigil and home depot protest led it

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Speaker 1: directly into the next event on Friday morning, a previously

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Speaker 1: announced second protest outside of Cadence Bank in Midtown calling

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Speaker 1: million dollar construction loan. All Right, people had a protest

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Speaker 1: on Friday morning at Cadence Bank in Midtown Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: There's maybe like.

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Speaker 1: Around a dozen people here, uh, chanting outside of the building.

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Speaker 1: moving in closer that they're walking in again people still.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's even touched touched the class door.

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Speaker 1: Most of the people are just standing here on the sidewalk.

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Speaker 2: You know that game you play with your cats where

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Speaker 2: they come at you but they stop when you're watching them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the game we're playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we turn away the cops

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Speaker 1: advanced We like. This is also like half of like

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Speaker 1: the Loony Tunes gags. Is this they're doing a Michelin

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Speaker 1: frog all right, and they're they're now on the King's

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Speaker 2: They're start starting to advance.

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Speaker 1: Police were yelling at people that they couldn't touch any

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Speaker 1: of the steps leading up to the bank entrance, and

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Speaker 1: that you weren't allowed to lean against any hand rails

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Speaker 1: because the metal pole was bank property. So once again

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Speaker 1: we got this little game of back and forth, except

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Speaker 1: one side has guns and the power to rescue.

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Speaker 6: Property.

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Speaker 1: This cup said in the crowds trying to incite a riot,

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Speaker 1: it feels very much like what you saw I guess

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Speaker 1: in Portland.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I wasn't there. Where there's an object that becomes

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Speaker 2: this sacred goal and.

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Speaker 1: Then you're you're battling over the thing because the thing

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Speaker 1: has now been given.

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Speaker 2: Given something like me actual physical like presence, and that

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Speaker 2: is the thing that you are now fighting for. It

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Speaker 2: becomes it becomes a symbolic in front of a building.

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Speaker 2: It don't matter, but the police gave it significant.

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Speaker 1: Because the police turn it into this like symbolic thing,

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Speaker 1: it now means more than a just just being stabbed.

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Speaker 2: So there was this camera guy who like kept kind

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Speaker 2: of stepping up and like pushing the envelope.

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Speaker 1: And eventually or activists put one foot on the steps,

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Speaker 1: being like, Okay, if you're gonna come after us for

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Speaker 1: putting a foot on the bank steps.

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Speaker 2: Fine, come at us, like call the bluff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So there was like people yelling at the CoP's face

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Speaker 5: And that's why all of us together here need to

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Speaker 2: And so as we fight to.

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Speaker 2: You try to tell us what they do all day long.

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Speaker 3: But if we continue to build people's power, well they

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Speaker 1: As people got ready to depart, the energy was noticeably

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's certainly one way to end this week of action.

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Speaker 1: After the youth rally, Matt and I got some coffee

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Speaker 2: Week of action. Yeah, it was needed, though it was

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Speaker 1: these things. And I think that week ended with more

442
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Speaker 1: questions than what it started with because the police did

443
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: the rate of the forest, there was a lot of

444
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: there was more uncertainty by the end of the week

445
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: because there was so much over policing. There was a

446
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of changes through throughout that week,

447
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: and I think this week started in like an inverse

448
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: is people started this week with a directionless sense, and

449
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: they had a lot of questions going into this week,

450
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Speaker 1: and I feel like some people have started to kind

451
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Speaker 1: of figure out how the movement will evolve in these

452
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Speaker 1: next few months, and it feels like people have a

453
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Speaker 1: better idea of where of like how they're going to

454
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Speaker 1: move forward in these next three months six months, and

455
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Speaker 1: like the month and a half when construction is slated

456
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Speaker 1: to begin in August.

457
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Speaker 2: Later to begain and you know, this referendum is looking

458
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Speaker 2: like it's doing pretty well, so hopefully that that does delay.

459
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Speaker 2: But yeah, of course we also ended with the bouncy casts.

460
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Speaker 2: We can't do it so acknowledging the importance of bouncy

461
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Speaker 2: castles to this movement, or at least to Garrison, And.

462
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Speaker 1: I yes, I think the other thing that makes it

463
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Speaker 1: interesting in terms of this week being an inverse of

464
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Speaker 1: the last week is that you know, on the last week,

465
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Speaker 1: day two, there was this very.

466
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Speaker 2: Fiery action with vehicles being smashed.

467
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Speaker 1: And then on the second to last day, which is

468
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Speaker 1: like late last night, either like late Friday, night or

469
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Speaker 1: early Saturday morning at like one am, two am, there

470
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Speaker 1: was three Atlanta police cars smashed by Reynoldstown I believe. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: just right like a mile and a half away from

472
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Speaker 1: from Brownwood Park, YEP and close to the airport at

473
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Speaker 1: the old Police training Academy. There was a it looks

474
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Speaker 1: like a good fleet of Atlanta Police motorcycles.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the motorcycle Like, that's where the motors.

476
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Speaker 2: The credit quarters is outside and those motorcycles are going

477
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Speaker 2: to be no longer functioning.

478
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Speaker 1: Yes, they are all charged to a crisp with like

479
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Speaker 1: incendiary devices found there.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the most noticeable differences about this week of

482
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Speaker 1: action compared to the previous one was the turnout out

483
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Speaker 1: of state support did not show up in similar numbers

484
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Speaker 1: as to the last week of action in March. There's

485
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Speaker 1: a lot of potential reasons for this. This week may

486
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Speaker 1: have simply happened too soon, It coincided with other events

487
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: across the country. Its messaging may not have reflected an

488
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Speaker 1: adequate level of planning. There was probably some demoralization from

489
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: the ninety acres of trees cut down and with entrenchment.

490
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: Creek Park closed and under police occupation. Launching options in

491
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Speaker 1: Atlanta was more of a mystery for those coming from

492
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Speaker 1: outside the city. More time away from the death of

493
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Speaker 1: Tortigita is probably also a factor. People in Atlanta may

494
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Speaker 1: have to reconcile that the movement may not have as

495
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Speaker 1: much widespread national support and all the ground numbers as

496
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Speaker 1: it did last March.

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Speaker 2: This is the smallest week of action we've had in

498
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Speaker 2: over a year in Duisa memory. This is the smallest

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Speaker 2: one I've I've reported on. Right, Yeah, you know, I

500
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: think it might have even been comparable to the first

501
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: week of Action, like it was around there, but it

502
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: also felt more local. It did feel way more local.

503
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Speaker 2: Once you go from like something so big as the

504
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Speaker 2: last week of action to something more constrained, that is

505
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: that sets a like a vibe shift. Yeah, that I

506
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: think you've got to kind of come to terms with.

507
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: And it's one of those moments where you're like, Okay,

508
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: we are in a different paradigm.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fewer numbers is not necessarily a bad thing. A

510
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: group of five to ten people can sometimes be much

511
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: more effective at doing certain things than a crowd of

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: two hundred or even a thousand. You just have to

513
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: specifically prepare for the numbers that you know that you'll

514
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: have for such a long time, I felt like this

515
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: was this movement was extremely effective in delaying construction like

516
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: that was like extremely effective deadline year and a half

517
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: deadlines kept getting pushed back every single thing. Like the

518
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: occupation was very good at doing what it attempted to do,

519
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: and at a certain point that became no longer viable.

520
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: And things are now changing gears. Yeah, and you have

521
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: to allow yourself that evolution like that.

522
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: It has to the same way people started occupying the

523
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Speaker 1: forest in October after the city council stuff in September

524
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Like as the things change, you have

525
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: to change your tactics with it.

526
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Speaker 2: And as I mean, as revolutionary strategy goes, that's just

527
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: that should be a baseline and adapting to what the

528
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: situation is and not what the situation what you want

529
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Speaker 2: it to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think more people are talking about that

531
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Speaker 1: this week and realizing that like maybe even another week

532
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: of Action does not make sense for this new paradigm

533
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: that we're existing in Atlanta. I've talked about the possibility

534
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: of changing the week of Action structure before in previous episodes.

535
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Speaker 1: And I really only brought that up because that's what

536
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: people were conveying to me at the time. And this

537
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: has continued to be a topic of debate both during

538
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: and since June.

539
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Speaker 2: What do you do with the week of Action format?

540
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Speaker 2: And I know that we kind of talked about this

541
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Speaker 2: during the last YEP recap episode where you brought up

542
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: that that might have been the last Week of Action,

543
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: but it wasn't.

544
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Speaker 1: It wasn't because as I was making as episodes this

545
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Week of Action what was announced, I've heard more people

546
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: say that they don't think the Week of Action format

547
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: is applicable anymore more. I've heard more people say that

548
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: than I did last week. What if Atlanta has kind

549
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: of outgrown this format? This format's proved to be very

550
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: useful in these past few years. There's been very positive parts,

551
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: it's been very negative parts. And what if there's time

552
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: for What if it's time for something like completely new,

553
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: something that the police don't know how to respond.

554
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: To, because something that matches the new paradigm. Yeah, because

555
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: that's the other thing.

556
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Speaker 1: It's like people have been doing this for like two

557
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Speaker 1: years now, Like not only have people gotten used to

558
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: a pattern, but like police have gotten used to a pattern,

559
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: like police have gotten very good at resting the week

560
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: of action, like they have, they have had two years

561
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Speaker 1: to practice, they have they know how to do this now,

562
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Speaker 1: So why why keep playing on their battlefield?

563
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Speaker 5: Like?

564
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Speaker 2: Why why keep doing what APD is expecting you to do.

565
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Speaker 1: That's part of what's you know, interesting about this resurgence

566
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Speaker 1: of these nocturnal hit and run sabotages that are unannounced.

567
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Speaker 1: That we saw the ones earlier in this week with

568
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Speaker 1: the with the Brent Scarborough's machines. Then we saw the

569
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Speaker 1: APD vehicles get hit last night, So perhaps there there

570
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Speaker 1: will be more of that. Perhaps they'll be just new

571
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Speaker 1: things that we can't even predict, Like there's so many

572
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Speaker 1: other avenues that things could that things could go. Even

573
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Speaker 1: during the use March, Matt and I were wondering if

574
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Speaker 1: this new spike in sabotage actions would break the spell

575
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Speaker 1: and we'd see a return of this type of action

576
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Speaker 1: happening more frequently. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the sort of direct action that has really

578
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Speaker 2: been missing over the last several months. Yeah, and no,

579
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Speaker 2: And we've been talking about a lot this past week.

580
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Speaker 1: We're talking about how there's been a lot of these

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Speaker 1: sorts of like nocturnal hit and run direct actions, and

582
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: late last night it seems like there was a resurgence.

583
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Speaker 2: So we'll see how that continues, you know, after the

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Speaker 2: Week of Action, if it continues, or if it was

585
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Speaker 2: a Week of Action inspired element. But I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling we'll see some of those continue to crop up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and this did indeed turn out to be the case,

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Speaker 1: all right. I will do my best to go over

589
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Speaker 1: a short list of the claimed attacks against contractors, building Copcity,

590
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Speaker 1: and corporations that fund the Atlanta Police Foundation from after

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Speaker 1: this week of action. On a July first, over half

592
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Speaker 1: a dozen Bank of America buildings in the Bay Area

593
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: where vandalized and a dozen or so ATMs were smashed.

594
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Speaker 1: In late June to early July, group of friends visited

595
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Speaker 1: the home of copp City architect Anthony Kenny in Norcross, Georgia,

596
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: while another group paid a visit to Ambrush baseil Walla,

597
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Speaker 1: a member of the board of trustees for the Atlanta

598
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Speaker 1: Police Foundation. People painted messages around their homes and tires

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00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: were slashed. On the night of July second, Keith Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Regional president for Brassfield and Gory, the contracting

601
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Speaker 1: firm who broadly oversaw the destruction of the forest and

602
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Speaker 1: who has decided to physically build cop City, also received

603
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Speaker 1: a mysterious visit late in the night. An unknown number

604
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Speaker 1: of people evaded security guards and spread blood red paint

605
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Speaker 1: around his pool and left a message reading cop City

606
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Speaker 1: will never be built. Drop the contract and you can't hide.

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Speaker 1: According to an online communicay, rotten fish and dirty motor

608
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Speaker 1: oil were left hidden somewhere on the property. Part of

609
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Speaker 1: the communicay, addressed to Keith reads quote, we know things

610
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Speaker 1: haven't been feeling great in the office. You're losing money.

611
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: Subcontractors are upset. There are fractures everywhere in the cop

612
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Speaker 1: City project, and all of that weight and procarity is

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Speaker 1: on your fragile shoulders. Each time you think of us,

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Speaker 1: or see the reminders we left you, remember this is

615
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Speaker 1: your own doing. You can make all of this stop

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Speaker 1: by dropping the Copcity contract. On July fourth, in lieu

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Speaker 1: of fireworks, people claimed to have set two Brent Scarborough

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Speaker 1: machines on fire in broad daylight due to the lack

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Speaker 1: of security during daytime. Scarborough is the subcontractor who physically

620
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Speaker 1: leveled the ninety sum acres of Forest in the Wallani

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Speaker 1: The same day in Michigan, Chase Bank ATMs were sabotaged

622
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Speaker 1: with glue and the bank was vandalized with messages of resistance.

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Speaker 1: Chase Bank's head of Regional Investment Banking serves on the

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Speaker 1: board of the Atlanta Police Foundation. And on July eighth,

625
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Speaker 1: a Bank of America in Berkeley was vandalized with stopcop

626
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: city slogans and three ATMs were smashed. During the start

627
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Speaker 1: of this little wave of actions, the Mayor's office and

628
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: APD were none too happy, so on July fifth, Mayor

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Speaker 1: Andre Dickens and Atlanta Police Chief Darren Scherbaum put on

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Speaker 1: a press conference with the ATS, Georgia Bureau of Investigation

631
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Speaker 1: and FBI to discuss the recent surge of direct actions.

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Speaker 6: Our public safety facilities and property were the target of

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Speaker 6: an extremely violent and dangerous attack on Saturday, July first,

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Speaker 6: and there were several other destructive acts of extreme vandalism

635
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Speaker 6: on public and private properly property that occurred that we

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Speaker 6: have reason to believe are related to the construction of

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Speaker 6: the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center in Decab County. The

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Speaker 6: current Atlanta Police Training Center at one eighty south Side

639
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 6: Industrial Parkway was set up in the early morning hours

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Speaker 6: of Saturday, July first. The targeted attack utilized extremely dangerous

641
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Speaker 6: homemade incendiary devices to set a fire to the building

642
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 6: and completely destroyed eight police motorcycle motorcycles. As shocking as

643
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Speaker 6: this is, this was not an isolated incident of violence.

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Speaker 6: This group actually took credit for these incidents and they

645
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 6: stated it as I quote, we are vengeful wing nuts

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Speaker 6: with nothing left to lose.

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Speaker 7: Prior to that, about one hour prior to the event

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Speaker 7: of one of the South Side industrial we had another

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Speaker 7: precinct that was targeted in the city. This is our

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Speaker 7: Path Force Precinct, Memorial Drive and the eight hundred block

651
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Speaker 7: of the Memorial. These officers control the belt line which

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Speaker 7: many of you all visit frequently. At that location, we

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Speaker 7: had multiple windows broken on police vehicles. We believe the

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Speaker 7: intent was to set those vehicles on fire as well.

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Speaker 7: Half and fire off of the of the red fuse

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Speaker 7: on the ground that has been used by this group

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Speaker 7: in the past to set police vehicles on fire that

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Speaker 7: was dropped when a citizen observed the criminal actions progress

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Speaker 7: and actually interrupted the crimes that were occurring there. So

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Speaker 7: we believe that the fire attack that was planned on

661
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Speaker 7: Memorial Drive was thwarted by an observant citizen. A short

662
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 7: time later, about an hour, we had the fire at

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Speaker 7: our facility on Southside Industrial. Our training center has housed

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Speaker 7: there most recently, and then our special operations precinct is there.

665
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Speaker 7: The intent was for all forty to be destroyed, and

666
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 7: had all those forty vehicles caught on fire, that police

667
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 7: facility would have been gravely damaged, if not destroyed in

668
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Speaker 7: the fire. And we are thankful for a police officer

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Speaker 7: that saw this unfolding and likely interrupted that plan for

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Speaker 7: being able to play out in its fullness. There's an

671
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Speaker 7: indication that this was likely committed by the exact same intevisions.

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Speaker 7: We will let and see where.

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00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 5: The fact tickets.

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Speaker 1: According to Chief Sheerbaum and Mayor Dickens, the actions against

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Police on July first, over the course of just

676
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: a few hours equaled over were three hundred thousand dollars

677
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: in damages as.

678
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 7: We're around thirty five thousand, and they once you outfit

679
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 7: us a little bit more so, do that times eight,

680
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 7: that's going to put you in the ballpark.

681
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's not even including the rest of the

682
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: smoke and damage. And other things, and the broken windows

683
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 6: on the police car, etc.

684
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 7: So the group that struck this weekend is a dedicated

685
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 7: group of professional anarchists, and I know that may seem

686
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 7: a contradiction in terms. So this is a group of

687
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 7: individuals who don't pray, play by any rules, and we'll

688
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: go to any links they need to to carry out.

689
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 7: And this is their words. We will wage a campaign

690
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 7: of violence and destruction, and so what we saw this

691
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 7: weekend was part of that campaign.

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Speaker 1: It's always funny when police make anarchists sound very cool

693
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: and scary. But Chief Scherbaum also pretty clearly explained the

694
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: reasoned methodology behind the pressure campaigns targeting contractors and APF

695
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: financial sponsors.

696
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 7: We know from the postings of this group their intent

697
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 7: to stop the Public Safety Trading Center has left the

698
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 7: democratic pro sess of the city Council and is now

699
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: moving to intimidate and force out contractors that are committed

700
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 7: to building the Public Safety training Center this weekend. During

701
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 7: the week of action, three different locations private residences were targeted.

702
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 7: Tires were flattened on contractors home. A home of an

703
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 7: executive for Brassalgory was significantly vanalyzed. In another jurisdiction. And

704
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 7: then we had another location where graffiti was used to intimidate.

705
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Speaker 7: And then yesterday morning, slightly after seven o'clock in the morning,

706
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Speaker 7: a location at four eighteen McDonough Boulevard belonging to Brent

707
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 7: Scarborough's company, which is a key provider of work and

708
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 7: this training centers was also targeted and attacked and equipment

709
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 7: was set on fire at that location. These acts are

710
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 7: of a small, determined group. These are small individuals from

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: across the country that are using violence and fear and

712
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 7: intimidation to stop a public safety training center. And this

713
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 7: group cannot hide behind the dark of night or the

714
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 7: home address and feel that they are not going to

715
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Speaker 7: be held accountable. I have standing at this podium with

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Speaker 7: me today representings from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the ATF,

717
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 7: and we are also partner with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

718
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 7: These agencies are working together to determine where federal laws

719
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: violated this weekend and ensure that the full expertise of

720
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 7: American law enforcement is present right here in Atlanta to

721
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 7: stop this group, stop this group across the region, stop

722
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 7: their ability to impact the public safety network of Atlanta

723
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Speaker 7: and hold them accountable.

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Speaker 1: Despite continued threats from law enforcement, the only arrests that

725
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: have happened so far in relation to this movement are

726
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: from daytime protests, forest raids, and bail fund organizers. We've

727
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: yet to see anyone arrested in Atlanta for doing like

728
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: a specific one of these nocturnal like nights sabotage actions.

729
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: That has not happened.

730
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the scariest indictments everyone's expecting are going

731
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: to come in these next few years, after you give

732
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the FBI two three, four years to investigate, after you

733
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: interview or people whove been arrested, see if anyone stitches,

734
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: if anyone turns state's witness. But so far, it's been

735
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: safer to do nocturnal sabotage actions than it has been

736
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: to attend a public protest. And that is an interesting

737
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: paradigm as well, is that no one's actually got arrested

738
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: for lighting like cop cars and fire in the middle

739
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: of the night. No one's been arrested for sabotaging equipment

740
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. All of the arrests

741
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: that are you know, are being tied to like violent

742
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: crime are from like daytime protests, which is an interesting

743
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: factor about this movement. Direct action in the most surveiled

744
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: city in America can be tricky, and even just managing

745
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: cell phones and Internet search data is a huge factor.

746
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: But as much real security there is out in the world,

747
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: the amount of security theater is arguably a stronger aspect

748
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: in getting people to not go out and do direct action.

749
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: The implicit threat of the panopticon is often enough to

750
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: stifle people's potential action, but these things are beatable. Guides

751
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: for how to do it exist either at your local

752
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: anarchist book fair or online as long as the computer

753
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: is running tour browser and a reputable VPN.

754
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: The Internet.

755
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: The internet's a fun place. That's there is a lot

756
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: of no blogs and sites and the zines that tell

757
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: you how to do that. I don't know, I mean

758
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: they people always make mistakes, People get caught sometimes make mistakes.

759
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: It's risky, and there are cameras everywhere in the city.

760
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: You have to Yeah, some of them, don't worry. But

761
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: it's like, do you really want to play Russian Roulette?

762
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: No, that's a part of that's a part of when

763
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: people like plan these nocturnal actions is like just because

764
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: it's nighttime, doesn't mean you're not sick getting watched or

765
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: you're not.

766
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: Like it's there's a lot of things that go into that.

767
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to get got whether you're

768
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: like buying supplies and you keep a receipt and people

769
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: please find a receipt, They track back, they find security

770
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: acount of you'll be purchasing things and then they're like, oh,

771
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: this bottle is bought it this place because you have

772
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: this receipt in your house and blah blahlah blah blah.

773
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Like there's there's lots of ways that that stuff happens.

774
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: So like I'm not going to give a guide on

775
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: how to do it right now, but like anarchists have

776
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time.

777
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: After you do that crime, you've never done that crime.

778
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Like it's it's not something that you do as a person,

779
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: like you cease to become a person, you've become like

780
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: you are that action.

781
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: It is subsumed in the action, and then and then

782
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: it's you never talked about it ever again. It's gone

783
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: or else you end up going to prison. Yeah, and

784
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: risking like not just your safety, the safety everyone's safety

785
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: just by remembering that you did it.

786
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: No you know, like these become standards and anarchist communities,

787
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: like you never brag about something, You never allude to

788
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: anything like it's it's it's not it's not a game

789
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: like you're it's not a game. You're it is your

790
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: your life and other people's lives on the line. When

791
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: when when you're doing stuff like this and it's yeah,

792
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: you you never do it to like cool. You never

793
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: do it to brag about it like that. That's just

794
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: not how this works, which is why there's kind of

795
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: a much more like kind of insular culture around some anarchists,

796
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: especially anarchists to identify as like illegalists or like the

797
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: types of like like green nihilists or green anarchists. That

798
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: kind of pioneered the militancy of this movement both slightly

799
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: even slightly before the first City Council vote and then

800
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: definitely after the first City Council vote where we saw

801
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: a massive explosion no pun intended in the number of

802
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: type of sabotages happening in the Wlani Forest. Yeah, which

803
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: I think that drew a lot of anarchists do come

804
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: to Atlanta because it.

805
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, they're doing a thing that's been the

806
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: thing since the end of the green scare.

807
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is like the thing that I believe

808
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: in that this is like, this is my politics. Now

809
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: there's a spot where I can do my politics. And

810
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: still no one's been caught for that. And I think

811
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: that that was a big part of why Atlanta got

812
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: so big last year, was that people had the ability

813
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: to like live free in the forest and then do

814
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: crazy shit at night. Like you can you live in

815
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: this like autonomous zone during the day. You're able, whether

816
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: you're you have housing instability, whether you just want like

817
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: an escape from like horrible police state living. Like where

818
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: in whatever, wherever the city you're in, you can go

819
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: live in the Wilane Forest. You can live in a tent,

820
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: you can have friends, you can defend this force during

821
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: the day, and then you can do crazy, crazy shit

822
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: at night. And that drew a lot of people to Atlanta,

823
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: And now with the forest not being there, that also

824
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: changes that that changes the type of people who are come,

825
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: who are who want to come to the city because

826
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: that that was a big draw for people And now

827
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: that that's no longer an option, you can't really sleep

828
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: in the Wilani Forest as easily anymore.

829
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that changes the types.

830
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: Of people who want to come to Atlanta and who

831
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: are gonna like do crazy shit because that's just how And.

832
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: Further on safety, they're not here. Yeah, no, absolutely.

833
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: As the referendum is hoping to stop cop City by

834
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: having Atlanta residents vote on whether to cancel the land lease,

835
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: other in the Diverse movement have continued their efforts to

836
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: pressure contractors and funders to drop out of the cop

837
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: City project. This tactic has already demonstrated its ability to succeed,

838
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: with Reeve's Young Construction dropping out of the project in

839
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: April of twenty twenty two, and some material suppliers have

840
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: since cut ties with cop City. This is something that

841
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: APD Chief Darren Shecherbaum certainly seems worried about.

842
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 7: This effort of fear was not going to succeed, and

843
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 7: the coalition of law enforcement from the GBI to the FBI,

844
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 7: to the ATF, Atlanta Police Department, and a slew of

845
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 7: regional agencies is going to stop that campaign so it

846
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 7: doesn't happen and individuals.

847
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 5: Do not leave the project.

848
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: On July second, protesters in Minnesota visited the homes of

849
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Atlas Technical Consultants employees during daylight, people marched around the

850
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: neighborhoods with instruments and banners, knocked on doors, talked with neighbors,

851
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: and left a letter of demands to drop the contract

852
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: and cut ties with the Atlanta Police Foundation. The project

853
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: manager for Atlas Technical Consultants engaged with protesters in the

854
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: street and told them that Atlas had indeed already dropped

855
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: out of the project due to mounting pressure than we want.

856
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 8: Atlas is no longer involved.

857
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: Why they decide to get out of it?

858
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 8: We stopped doing that. Why because you guys are fucking

859
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 8: nightmares and you broke all our fucking windows.

860
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: So you remember, I don't care what you want to say,

861
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: So you.

862
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 8: Know my house and knock on my door and do

863
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 8: this ship. My company is not involved in this, So

864
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 8: get the fuck away from me. Okay, I'm glad.

865
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: Alright.

866
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: A few days later, Atlas and Long Engineering released an

867
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: official statement saying that they would no longer be working

868
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: on the cop City project. Anarchists and those on the

869
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: left in general seem to have a hard time calling wins,

870
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if it gets any more definitive

871
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: than that audio clip in showing that this type of

872
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: direct action can absolutely work in getting businesses to leave

873
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: the project. In the next episode, we'll talk more about

874
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: the referendum, the city's attempts to divide the movement, and

875
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: the growing pr battle over the fate of Copcity.

876
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: See you on the other side.

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