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Speaker 1: Consumed is a production of iHeart Podcasts and Grimm and

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Speaker 1: Mild from Aaron Maky. Headphones Recommended Listener discretion advised.

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Speaker 2: It's happening. That's what the voice on the phone said.

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Speaker 2: Means someone already knew got to call a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of days ago. Wouldn't say who it was, though, that

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Speaker 3: proves it aliens not.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the scientific method.

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Speaker 3: Who also know about the thirty one years?

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Speaker 4: That's not what it said.

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Speaker 3: But there's something unnatural going on here, and you know

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Speaker 3: it it was you.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it what you bastards called me? Didn't you know?

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Speaker 2: That's an outrageous accusation.

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Speaker 4: No, the only thing at rageous is you expecting me

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Speaker 4: to believe your bedtime stories.

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Speaker 3: And besides, we're here. You can get out now. I

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Speaker 3: swear it wasn't us.

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Speaker 2: We're not making this up. Call me again when you're

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Speaker 2: not too absorbed in your story to see the facts.

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Speaker 2: But for no, get out. Yeah, yeah, we got it. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there's one step forward, two step back with that one.

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Speaker 3: It's really so hard to believe that there's something bigger

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Speaker 3: at play here.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame her. We did sound kind of kooky,

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Speaker 2: and by we I mean.

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Speaker 3: You come on. Please don't tell me I'm losing you

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Speaker 3: to the dark side.

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Speaker 2: No, you are losing me to common sense. Is there

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Speaker 2: a pattern? Sure? But does correlation equal causation? You're damn

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Speaker 2: sure it doesn't. I already got that test question wrong once.

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Speaker 3: What if I told you I knew something that was prove? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: How I sometimes hear things in that library when there's

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Speaker 3: no one else there, So the wind no, I mean whispers, right.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I see dead.

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Speaker 5: People And.

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Speaker 2: It's all right not to know the answers.

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Speaker 6: So we'll come to you when you least expected.

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Speaker 4: God, damn it, kid, where are you?

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Speaker 7: Nice to see you finally?

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Speaker 3: Remember you have a job. Sorry, boss, I was.

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Speaker 7: Just doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Grab those markers.

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Speaker 7: We're going to have to divvy up this map to

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Speaker 7: set up search grids, and I need you to get

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Speaker 7: started on volunteers.

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Speaker 3: What's this about.

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Speaker 7: It's about the child we allow to go missing under

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Speaker 7: our watch or don't tell me you've already forgotten being fooled.

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Speaker 4: However it happened.

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Speaker 7: It happened, and that's not going to change. So now

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Speaker 7: it's our job to fix it.

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Speaker 4: We need to get central in on this ivery.

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Speaker 2: Could be hard even worse out there.

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Speaker 4: Something happened to that kid.

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Speaker 3: I know it, I can feel it, Sheriff.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you what. Avery's fine. He's with his family.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's what I've been trying to say, Sheriff. Avery

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Speaker 6: went right on home after his escape. The kid's fine department.

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Speaker 8: Can I help you?

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Speaker 4: He went straight home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hit out by the shed for a bit. I

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Speaker 6: guess he was embarrassed or something, but he came out

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Speaker 7: And you're sure that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just came.

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Speaker 4: From there, so he didn't go into the woods.

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Speaker 3: Why would you think that thought?

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Speaker 4: I saw traces there must have been in my head,

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Speaker 4: I suppose. So why didn't you bring him back?

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Speaker 6: Kid's been through a lot. Thought it better he'd be

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Speaker 6: with family for the time being.

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Speaker 2: You know, doesn't seem like that was your choice to make.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but with all the stuff that went down with Rama,

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Speaker 6: I felt like there wasn't enough to hold.

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Speaker 2: Him that stuff right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll be sure to straighten it all out when

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Speaker 4: I stopped by.

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Speaker 6: To check on every sounds good, boss. I'm sure they're

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Speaker 3: Hey, quick question, how much longer do we have to

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Speaker 3: do this? Please?

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Speaker 2: Don't make me make the chicken sound. It's not my

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Speaker 3: I'm not scared so much as wondering when something's going

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Speaker 3: to rush down this tunnel and a viceratus.

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Speaker 2: No, biggie, there is something up with these tunnels, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not stopping until I figure out what that is,

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Speaker 2: unless you want to fess up and admit it was

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Speaker 2: you who left Aaron's phone.

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Speaker 3: There, tuche. Hey, I think we already took this turn.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did the whispers tell you that?

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Speaker 8: Really?

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Speaker 3: That's how we're doing this?

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Speaker 2: Doing what you said? You hear magical whispers? Then, okay,

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Speaker 2: you hear magical whispers?

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Speaker 3: Pretty sure I didn't use the word magical. Now I'm

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Speaker 3: starting to think it doesn't matter what word I use,

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Speaker 3: because you wouldn't believed me. Anyways.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what my options look like. Either one,

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Speaker 2: you do hear voices in your head, in which case

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Speaker 2: you need immediate psychiatric care, or two you're lying to

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Speaker 2: me again, which wouldn't be out of character, except this

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Speaker 2: time I must look gullible enough to buy this sixth sense.

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Speaker 2: I hear dead people bullshit?

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Speaker 3: Hey, can you slow down?

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Speaker 2: And there goes our light?

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Speaker 3: There can you at least hear me out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gagging you am I thanky?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put up in that I'm waiting. It sound

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Speaker 3: like I've always heard them, So you.

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Speaker 2: Were normal once. That's comforting.

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Speaker 3: It started in January of this year. At first I

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Speaker 3: thought it was just a wind, you know, old buildings,

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Speaker 3: creepy sounds. It's in the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: So what made you change your mind?

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Speaker 3: When the wind stops sounding like the weather and more

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Speaker 3: like someone was inside? Because then came the nightmares. I

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Speaker 3: spent hours on end in that library, wide awake in bed,

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Speaker 3: unable and unwilling to go to sleep because I was

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Speaker 3: so genuinely terrified of what I'd say. What was it

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Speaker 3: on a good night? The worst memories of my life?

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Speaker 3: But on a bad night, Oh, those were things even

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Speaker 3: my imagination couldn't conjure.

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Speaker 2: You should take an edible before bed might take the

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Speaker 3: I know this all sounds crazy. I mean, hell, there's

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Speaker 3: a reason I didn't lead with HI. My name is Gordon.

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Speaker 3: I'm haunted.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't just sound crazy, it sounds impossible.

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Speaker 3: So what about all the bizarro murders going on in

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Speaker 3: this town? Two weeks ago? I would have said that

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Speaker 3: was impossible. Can't you just believe me, Gordon?

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Speaker 2: You were asking me to believe a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's me. Do you know when the first

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Speaker 3: time I had an actual good night's sleep was in

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Speaker 3: a long time?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: It was the day I met you, when I saw

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Speaker 3: you standing there under the nave, surrounded by all those books,

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Speaker 3: and it just felt right. That night I just slept.

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Speaker 3: No monsters beneath the bed, no shadows in the closet,

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Speaker 3: only rest.

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Speaker 2: That's not the creepiest pickup line I've ever heard, But

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Speaker 2: I'm a creepy doesn't cut it.

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Speaker 3: You want the story, right? What if this is part

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Speaker 3: of it? What do you mean there's something I need

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Speaker 3: to show you?

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Speaker 2: Wow? A book in a library? How mind blowing?

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Speaker 3: Not just any book, okay. This is a transcribed copy

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Speaker 3: of the journals kept by the Jesuit priests who were

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Speaker 3: originally settled in the area.

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Speaker 2: So an antique diary, bingo, but darker.

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Speaker 3: These aren't just records of prayers in daily life. These

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Speaker 3: texts go into detail about the conquering process. And yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying conquering in quotes.

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Speaker 2: How bad was it?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 3: According to this, not bad at all. The priests were

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Speaker 3: Mother Teresa, while the native Algonquin tribe essentially played the

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Speaker 3: role of lemmings in one widely misconceived mass cliff diving.

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Speaker 2: Video from the White Wilderness.

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Speaker 3: Dark Yes, and a very fitting name for our current subject.

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Speaker 3: These so called settlers pushed this tribe to the brink

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Speaker 3: of extension in ways that they cannot even be called human.

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Speaker 3: See here, Well, that.

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Speaker 2: Just says the food supplies were redistributed.

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Speaker 3: Which is code for look right here.

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Speaker 2: What is this hunting log?

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Speaker 3: I wish no. This is a log of the refuse,

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Speaker 3: the hundreds, if not thousands of heads of cattle skin

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Speaker 3: for their hides and left to boil in the sun.

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Speaker 3: It's every bit of food they made to rot and

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Speaker 3: fester for the sole purpose of starving out the native

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Speaker 3: inhabitants of this land.

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Speaker 2: Gordon, that's horrible, But I still don't understand what any

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Speaker 2: of this has to do with you hearing voices.

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Speaker 3: This is just a tip of the Titanic singing iceberg

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Speaker 3: and all that ice that they couldn't see on the water,

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Speaker 3: aka the brunt of it. None of that is recorded,

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Speaker 3: trust me, I've looked, But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: And how do I know that?

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Speaker 2: The whispers?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's just say that once I stopped trying to

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Speaker 3: shut them out and actually listen instead, those creepy ass

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Speaker 3: nightmares didn't seem all that bad by comparison. Dare I ask,

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Speaker 3: what do you think happens when you corral human beings

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Speaker 3: as if they're animals and then starve them to the brink,

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Speaker 3: leaving them no other way to survive except for each other.

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Speaker 2: Gosh Jesus, that's what you've been hearing.

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Speaker 3: Could be worse. I could hear traumatizing voices and be

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Speaker 3: lactose intolerant. But I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Okay say everything you're telling me is true.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, progress, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Then what the hell are you still doing here?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't say it's complicated.

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Speaker 3: Remember when you asked me why I wasn't at the

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Speaker 3: Boston Public Library, or, better yet, the Benecke.

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Speaker 2: Oh that bit of foreplay.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere else, I'm just another super sexy librarian, But here

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Speaker 3: I get a chance to do this journal. Your feelings,

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Speaker 3: not mine, theirs, and not feelings. It's their history, their stories,

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Speaker 3: not everything's black and white and blood and gloom. They

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Speaker 3: deserve to be remembered for more. Pardon this? Would you

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Speaker 3: figure it out of the thirty one year pattern? You

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Speaker 3: know what was the first thing I thought of?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: What if I'm not the first to hear these voices

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Speaker 3: in the library.

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Speaker 2: Either you're talking predecessors.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking employment records.

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Speaker 2: Hit me with it. Who is here before you?

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Speaker 3: Old man Cahill? But it says here he wasn't hired

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Speaker 3: until ninety three.

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Speaker 2: That's too late. What about the one before him?

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Speaker 3: Ninety one ninety one? Howard Gillies, He was on from

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Speaker 3: sixty seven until uh February of ninety one, a twenty

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Speaker 3: four year veteran of the job. And he didn't even

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Speaker 3: pick up his last check, just left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he probably high tailed it out of here

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Speaker 2: after he started hearing voices, which is what you should

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Speaker 2: have done.

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Speaker 3: Oh why would you punch my arm? Wait? Does this

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Speaker 3: mean you believe me? Because if so, the pain was

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Speaker 2: I believe you're a martyr for putting yourself through this.

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Speaker 2: You vexed me, Gordon, you vexed me.

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Speaker 3: Besides, if I wasn't here, then you might have had

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Speaker 2: Oh you don't know my tastes.

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Speaker 3: I know me.

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Speaker 2: I did not wake up this morning prepared to deal

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Speaker 3: Please I call that breakfast.

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Speaker 2: You realize this doesn't just open the floodgates, this is

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Speaker 3: Then I guess I'll grab the raincoats.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you said this was an Algonquin tribe, right, Any

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Speaker 2: chance those whispers of yours ever mentioned an old legend

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Speaker 3: You mean slender Man with andlers?

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Speaker 2: No, that would be the One to Go two thousand

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me that's what's been running around out

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Speaker 2: I'm saying it fits the pattern and the history. Jesus,

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Speaker 2: where the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? I got it? Anderson Memorial Library, How may I

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Speaker 2: How may I help you?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Thanks? Max?

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Speaker 2: What that was, Sheriff Allan? Yeah, no, I got that.

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Speaker 2: What I want to know is have you had a

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Speaker 3: Calling it a working phone is an overreach. I have

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Speaker 2: That's concerning. But fine, What did she want?

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Speaker 3: Said? Avery's fine? Supposedly unless she's gonna go check in

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Speaker 8: Sheriff Allen. I thought we'd be seeing you Jack, Come in,

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Speaker 8: Come in. We're just having a little family dinner to

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Speaker 4: Heard about that that he'd been hiding out in the shed.

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Speaker 8: Kids. You know how it is. I remember hiding in

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Speaker 4: I'm fine, thank you. I don't see Avery.

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Speaker 8: He's upstairs getting ready. Rema should be bringing him down.

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Speaker 8: You're welcome to join us for our meal if you'd like.

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Speaker 2: I already eat.

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Speaker 7: Oh, but I promise my pow roast will make you

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Speaker 4: Rema, Sheriff Avery close behind almost though.

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Speaker 2: I can pour you some lemonade while we wait. Sure

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Speaker 2: would love to hear how the investigation is going. Soothe

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Speaker 4: I'm only here check on Avery the table set?

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Speaker 2: Does he always take this long?

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Speaker 8: He might be resting. It's been a tough couple of days.

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Speaker 4: You mind if I go check?

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Speaker 8: Rather? You didn't? And why is that?

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Speaker 3: Here's the food? Ready? Avery?

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Speaker 9: Sir?

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Speaker 3: If Alan's here to see you, what do you say?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Avery, how are you feeling fine? Your prison breaks?

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Speaker 4: Sit you?

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Speaker 3: Well? It's a joke. Oh right, Can I have a moment?

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Speaker 4: I was hoping to ask you a few questions? Is

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Speaker 8: Like I said, the kids had a rough day.

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Speaker 4: It won't take long, Avery, Dad, would you like to

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I promise you can talk to me.

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Speaker 8: And he will, but not tonight. Avery, go sit down, yes, sir? Now,

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Speaker 8: if that's everything, like to enjoy one final meal in

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Speaker 4: What does final mean?

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Speaker 3: Rema?

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Speaker 2: Please, Sheriff just go. He'll tell you whatever you need

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Speaker 2: to hear tomorrow. Okay, tomorrow, I promise, come on, come on.

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Speaker 3: Again. I told you that phone has a will of

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Speaker 2: Try pulling that cable a little higher and remember, lift

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the issue here, right. How important is this call?

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Speaker 2: Well, it might just save her lives, so pray for signal.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh it's your daddy.

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, please don't sexualize my telephone.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going through.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Professor Bradshaw, Yeah, the one and the same.

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Speaker 9: Listen. I'm sorry, but I told Vippin to put an

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is Sarah, Sarah Simmons. We spoke about

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Speaker 9: Oh oh, how, but I'm so sorry. I thought you

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Speaker 9: of the local demonic paramour. I was thinking after we

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's going great, very feisty, but that's actually

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Speaker 2: not why I'm calling. Oh, Professor Bradshaw, what can you

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Speaker 2: tell me about windigoes?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 9: You're changing your subject matter.

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Speaker 8: Huh.

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Speaker 2: One could say that.

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Speaker 9: Well, I guess considering the area you're in, it doesn't

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Speaker 9: really surprise me. How So, when you study folklore for

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Speaker 9: there it's a whin to go, but forty miles east

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Speaker 9: it's a witch, and forty miles self it's a I

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Speaker 9: don't know something else. It's so on and so on.

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Speaker 2: You know, So there have been sightings, Well, it's the

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Speaker 9: I could hop on social media and find you a

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Speaker 3: But with When to.

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Speaker 9: Goes, it's not as simple as just you know, seeing

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Speaker 9: because it could be a shadow with the ravenous monster

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Speaker 9: who's developed an insatiable craving for human flesh. Because when

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Speaker 9: malevolent spirit capable of possessing men. It depends on which

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Speaker 2: So how would you know which one you're dealing with?

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Speaker 3: Well, if not.

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Speaker 9: By sight, then I suppose by cause the spirit form

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Speaker 9: is attracted to those overcome by selfishness and greed, hence

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Speaker 9: the result of man consuming man, or rather the unwilling

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Speaker 2: Of the other. And say someone suspected there was a

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 5: And the more detailed of better, Sarah, is this still

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Speaker 2: No, of course, But as a student of folklore, you,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you frame it that way.

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Speaker 2: So the juicy bits you were saying.

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Speaker 9: That's the simple part. You either burn the creature to

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Speaker 3: It with silver. Oh? Is that all?

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Speaker 9: That's what they say? Legends do mix and mingle over time,

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Speaker 9: and some accounts claim that the creature is only vulnerable

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Speaker 2: Please do tell I'll take anything.

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Speaker 3: At this point.

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Speaker 9: The when to go strikes the hardest.

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Speaker 2: Come the season of starvation, and when exactly is that?

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Speaker 9: Well? When do animals migrate when the fields dry up?

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Speaker 2: Are you telling me that winter is coming?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 9: I promise you. Winter was feared in New England long

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Speaker 2: Scarier Hello, Hey, can you hear me? Professor?

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Speaker 9: When grow stronger? When it snows?

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Speaker 8: Shit?

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Speaker 3: Well, what do you say?

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Speaker 2: Do you want the good news or the eyelide? There

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Speaker 2: is no good news?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The first? Okay, fire and silver. That's a pretty run

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Speaker 2: Yeah for Buffy, maybe never a struggling journalist in a

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not that one, Gordon.

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Speaker 2: We are barely halfway to the police station.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might need to carry me.

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Speaker 2: Hey didn't you say Shaws was closed tonight?

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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: Then, why are all the lights still on?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Duck?

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Speaker 2: Did they see us?

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Speaker 3: I can barely see us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Seal Team six training, go? What we're crawling?

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Speaker 5: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Is this really necessary?

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Speaker 2: About to find out? Can you see inside?

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Speaker 3: I could if you would just screech over? Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've never seen a sacrificial altar before, but I'm

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Speaker 3: So many things make sense. Now, Holy shit, here's that jack,

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Speaker 3: the one's sharpening that knife. Yeah, that's him.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna kill someone, They're gonna feed the creature. What

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Speaker 2: the hell is with that chanting? Got a chorus in

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Speaker 2: there or what?

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's coming from in there? And it

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Speaker 2: How could it possibly be any worse?

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Speaker 3: WOSI Professor Bradshaw said about the snow.

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Speaker 2: Something about the whend to go striking hardest from snows.

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Speaker 1: Consumed. Episode ten, The Whispers written by Carlos Folia and

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Speaker 1: Starring Rachel Rosenbloom and Arturo Castro, with Ruth Connell, Sam Rod,

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Speaker 1: Genevieve Padalaki, Benjamin Stockholm, Charlie David Newell, Mike Korich, Anna

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Speaker 1: Casting by Sunday Bowling CSA and Meg Mormon CSA. Production

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Speaker 1: one score available now on Apple Music, Spotify, or wherever

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