1 00:00:03,110 --> 00:00:06,369 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to The Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,410 --> 00:00:09,539 Speaker 1: there's Chuck. Jerry's here sitting in for Dave, and Dave 3 00:00:09,619 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to come because he gets spooked easily. And 4 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: this is a spooky one, Chuck. A spooky one. Exactly. 5 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:18,979 Speaker 1: I can't do that as well as you, so I 6 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: just kind of left it for you. Oh, how about 7 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Jr. saying spooky like that? 8 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that's possible. Cameron, a spooky one. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,819 Speaker 1: Perfect. 10 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:33,380 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right. 11 00:00:33,580 --> 00:00:35,940 Speaker 1: Man, I'm going to get you a crown, says Sammy 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Davis Champ. 13 00:00:40,460 --> 00:00:45,530 Speaker 2: You ready to dive into this mystery of the Enfield Monster? Yeah. 14 00:00:45,570 --> 00:00:47,370 Speaker 1: Had you heard of this before? I had not. 15 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:52,949 Speaker 2: I don't think so. We need to thank ManThink about Medium, 16 00:00:53,250 --> 00:00:56,830 Speaker 2: the website, and Dread Central, and all that's interesting for 17 00:00:56,890 --> 00:01:01,900 Speaker 2: their reporting on this I mean, supposedly true thing that 18 00:01:01,940 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: happened in 1973. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: We should say that there are a lot of skeptics 20 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:09,790 Speaker 1: out there about this story. But it is a really 21 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:11,910 Speaker 1: big deal in the cryptic community. And there is a 22 00:01:11,950 --> 00:01:16,030 Speaker 1: cryptic community out there. People who are like, yes, there 23 00:01:16,069 --> 00:01:19,050 Speaker 1: are animals out there that we don't understand. This is 24 00:01:19,330 --> 00:01:22,450 Speaker 1: one of their big examples that they throw to. But 25 00:01:22,470 --> 00:01:24,590 Speaker 1: we're not going to look too deep into it because 26 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:28,110 Speaker 1: this is Halloween. And it's a fun story, don't you think? 27 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:33,220 Speaker 2: Yeah. The skeptics are calling from inside the podcast. 28 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:38,410 Speaker 1: So this was one of those 70s things along the 29 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:41,950 Speaker 1: lines of like the Amityville horror where there was a 30 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: decade where people were willing to be like, hey, this 31 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:49,300 Speaker 1: insane supernatural thing happened to me and I want to 32 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: be on the news about it. And they would get 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,860 Speaker 1: on the news. And the guy who got on the 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,740 Speaker 1: news the most from this whole thing was a guy 35 00:01:56,780 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: named Henry McDaniel. He lived in the village of Enfield, Illinois. 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: And he got on the news because he said that 37 00:02:04,580 --> 00:02:07,980 Speaker 1: there is a very strange creature that he not only saw, 38 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:12,790 Speaker 1: but shot at. And the creature behaved quite strangely and 39 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:14,829 Speaker 1: looked so strange that he was quite sure it was 40 00:02:14,889 --> 00:02:15,790 Speaker 1: not of this planet. 41 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:19,450 Speaker 2: That's right. I guess we can kick it off, though, 42 00:02:19,490 --> 00:02:24,060 Speaker 2: with their neighbor's. The Garretts, because the Garrett boy, young 43 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Greg Garrett, apparently, this is around 9 o'clock at night, 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,459 Speaker 2: was catching lightning bugs. And all of a sudden, you know, 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,540 Speaker 2: comes storming back into the house. His parents are watching TV. 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,810 Speaker 2: And he's hysterical. He's crying. He's upset. And he said 47 00:02:39,820 --> 00:02:43,109 Speaker 2: he saw a monster. Described it as four or five 48 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:48,810 Speaker 2: feet tall. Tiny little arms with claws. Slimy gray skin. 49 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:54,450 Speaker 2: And three legs... with claws and big red eyes about 50 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:58,590 Speaker 2: the size of flashlights and presented physical evidence in the 51 00:02:58,630 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: form of his tennis shoes that were shredded up that 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: he said the monster, you know, kind of stepped on 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,620 Speaker 2: his feet, I guess, and ran past him. And his 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,420 Speaker 2: parents were like, oh, what? 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,850 Speaker 1: Pretty much. Apparently, Greg wasn't known as much of a 56 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:17,169 Speaker 1: trickster or a liar or even a fibber, from what 57 00:03:17,230 --> 00:03:19,900 Speaker 1: I understand. So his parents were just kind of like, 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,500 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what to make of this. What happened, Greg? 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,620 Speaker 1: And they yelled at him for like a half hour 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,940 Speaker 1: until he cracked. Or they tried to make him crack 61 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:32,940 Speaker 1: and he never cracked. So as this was happening, and 62 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: so we should say this, Chuck, the accounts of this 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,700 Speaker 1: are so muddy by this time that it's not entirely 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,740 Speaker 1: clear the order of events and everything. So we're just 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: going to kind of go with the general flow, but 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,060 Speaker 1: just take this with a grain of salt because- It's just, 67 00:03:49,540 --> 00:03:53,460 Speaker 1: it's a muddied story, essentially. It's a muddied supernatural story, 68 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: if you can believe that. 69 00:03:54,990 --> 00:03:56,660 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's one of those deals where 70 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:58,830 Speaker 2: over the years it's been retold so many times, it's 71 00:03:58,870 --> 00:04:03,930 Speaker 2: probably been added to and changed about, like, things like 72 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,510 Speaker 2: this are done. Does that make sense? 73 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:10,550 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, totally. And not only retold, retold by people 74 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:13,190 Speaker 1: too lazy to go look up facts that they just 75 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:16,970 Speaker 1: assume instead, and then that becomes fact kind of thing. Yeah. 76 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: At least we're not writing about it. We just read 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: about it and we're too lazy to go look up 78 00:04:21,779 --> 00:04:22,219 Speaker 1: the facts. 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,580 Speaker 2: That's right. Because this is just a fun, silly, spooky shorty. 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: So the McDaniel kids are out that night as well. 81 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:37,190 Speaker 2: And Mr. McDaniel hears this story. He's also in disbelief, obviously, 82 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:39,690 Speaker 2: because he doesn't believe something like that could happen to 83 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: his kids. And here's some scratching at the door, opens 84 00:04:43,650 --> 00:04:49,010 Speaker 2: the door. sees this monster, evidently slams the door and 85 00:04:49,070 --> 00:04:53,190 Speaker 2: goes and grabs a. 22 pistol and a flashlight, opens 86 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:55,349 Speaker 2: the door back up and shoots at this thing. 87 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:59,450 Speaker 1: Yeah. As you do. I just have in my mind 88 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:02,620 Speaker 1: like him closing his eyes and turning his head and 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: just firing wildly out the door. 90 00:05:04,460 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,099 Speaker 1: So that's when he got the description that you gave. 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,730 Speaker 1: And like he said also that he hit it. He 93 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:15,730 Speaker 1: knows that he hit it. Cause he said it hissed 94 00:05:15,790 --> 00:05:18,980 Speaker 1: like a wildcat, which is, I believe a quote. Um, 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,980 Speaker 1: and that it just bounded away and bounded away, meaning 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,700 Speaker 1: like it covered tens of feet with each bounce, which 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,750 Speaker 1: with each hop, thanks to that third leg, apparently. Yeah. 98 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,370 Speaker 2: Apparently 75 feet in about three hops. 99 00:05:34,970 --> 00:05:35,710 Speaker 1: That's impressive. 100 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:39,530 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and it went over the railroad tracks, calls 101 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:42,779 Speaker 2: the cops, uh, And the Illinois State, it calls like 102 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:45,500 Speaker 2: the local police and the Illinois State Troopers show up instead. 103 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: And maybe that's a good time for a break. 104 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,060 Speaker 1: I agree. 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: I agree. 106 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:22,810 Speaker 1: Okay, Chuck, where we last left off, McDaniels, Henry McDaniels' 107 00:06:22,850 --> 00:06:27,410 Speaker 1: gun is smoking. The Enfield monster has bounded off out 108 00:06:27,450 --> 00:06:29,770 Speaker 1: of sight. And, of course, the first thing he does 109 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: is call the police. Like his children have just been terrified. 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,380 Speaker 1: He's just fired on some unknown monster. God knows that 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,020 Speaker 1: he was concerned about Greg Garrett's tennis shoes. 112 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: Sure. 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,260 Speaker 1: So he called the police. The Illinois State Troopers show 114 00:06:44,339 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: up to conduct a search. And they search. 115 00:06:47,339 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: Quite a recap, by the way. 116 00:06:48,850 --> 00:06:51,790 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You know I live to do recaps. 117 00:06:52,350 --> 00:06:53,630 Speaker 2: Man, you just retold the whole thing. 118 00:06:54,450 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: So the Illinois State Troopers show up and they search 119 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: the area. And they don't find the monster, but they 120 00:07:01,980 --> 00:07:05,539 Speaker 1: do find some suspicious evidence. I found it suspicious, didn't you? 121 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,430 Speaker 2: I think so. They found scratch marks on the siding 122 00:07:10,510 --> 00:07:15,890 Speaker 2: of the house, fresh scratch marks. They found footprints, three 123 00:07:15,930 --> 00:07:19,250 Speaker 2: footprints with claw marks on them. Two of them were 124 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:21,330 Speaker 2: about four inches wide, apparently. The third one was a 125 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:26,310 Speaker 2: little bit smaller. And then apparently, you know, McDaniel starts 126 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,820 Speaker 2: telling the story all around town and people start retelling 127 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:33,260 Speaker 2: the story. I think a kid, some other kid, maybe 128 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,540 Speaker 2: a neighbor faked or said he had faked the eyewitness account. 129 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:40,780 Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't really help your case. But it was 130 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,490 Speaker 1: enough for Henry McDaniel to kind of get into the paper. 131 00:07:44,650 --> 00:07:46,410 Speaker 1: I think he was in the would you say it's 132 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: got to be the Redding Eagle, right? Hmm. 133 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: It's not reading though. The reading Eagle. 134 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,220 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it could be referring to the Eagle 135 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: reading the newspaper. I don't know. 136 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:58,030 Speaker 2: Sure. Why not? 137 00:07:58,290 --> 00:08:01,150 Speaker 1: At any rate, it wasn't the, um, the sun times 138 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:02,910 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but they did run a story 139 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:05,410 Speaker 1: and like the, the story very quickly started to get 140 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:09,100 Speaker 1: picked up through other news outlets, including the news, um, 141 00:08:09,130 --> 00:08:15,060 Speaker 1: like TV news in, um, Illinois in the surrounding area. And, um, 142 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,540 Speaker 1: so this was, it had become a thing, right. Um, 143 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: but that, that was the, First sighting. About 10 days later, 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,180 Speaker 1: Henry McDaniel comes into play again when he wakes up 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,110 Speaker 1: to the sound of the neighborhood dogs going crazy. And 146 00:08:29,230 --> 00:08:31,810 Speaker 1: he grabs his gun again and goes down to the 147 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:34,970 Speaker 1: front door, opens it up as he does. And there's 148 00:08:35,050 --> 00:08:36,069 Speaker 1: the monster again. 149 00:08:36,090 --> 00:08:40,090 Speaker 2: That's right. But not at the door this time. This 150 00:08:40,130 --> 00:08:43,109 Speaker 2: time it was over on those railroad tracks that it 151 00:08:43,170 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: had disappeared over on the previous sighting. And he said 152 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:49,100 Speaker 2: it wasn't in a hurry. It was just kind of 153 00:08:49,270 --> 00:08:52,420 Speaker 2: ambling down the tracks. He has a great quote in 154 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:55,620 Speaker 2: an interview. If they do find it, they'll find more 155 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:57,859 Speaker 2: than one, and they won't be from this planet, I 156 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: can tell you that. So he thought it was otherworldly, extraterrestrial, perhaps. 157 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,980 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time with Henry McDaniel to 158 00:09:06,020 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: prep for this short stuff, and he sounds exactly like that. 159 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh, good. All right, good. 160 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: So, yeah, a bunch of people started to show up, 161 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,170 Speaker 1: monster hunters, which are basically... Bush beer drunk hunters with 162 00:09:19,270 --> 00:09:24,929 Speaker 1: rifles and shotguns. Yeah. They showed up, obviously. Like I said, 163 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:30,390 Speaker 1: the news showed up. There were cryptid investigators, people who 164 00:09:30,429 --> 00:09:33,260 Speaker 1: are like, I'm not, I'm not a fool, but I 165 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:35,980 Speaker 1: also believe that there's animals out there that we can't explain. 166 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:41,949 Speaker 1: So like, I guess quasi scientific investigators showed up as well. 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,829 Speaker 1: The whole, the upshot is the whole town, the small town, 168 00:09:46,270 --> 00:09:49,090 Speaker 1: just became like a hotbed of activity so much so 169 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:51,579 Speaker 1: that the sheriff was like, hey, McDaniel, if you keep 170 00:09:51,620 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: telling this story, I'm going to arrest you for basically 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,780 Speaker 1: disturbing the peace. And I mean, I believe that's unconstitutional. 172 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:02,940 Speaker 1: So he never made good on that threat. But the 173 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:06,780 Speaker 1: point is the town was in an uproar over all this. Yeah. 174 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,210 Speaker 2: And they arrested some of these hunters because they're just 175 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:12,310 Speaker 2: out there drinking beer and firing into the night. You 176 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:14,869 Speaker 2: can't do that either. Not even in 1973. 177 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:14,950 Speaker 1: Yeah. 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,650 Speaker 2: And then a guy whose name is too great to 179 00:10:20,690 --> 00:10:26,050 Speaker 2: be disbelieved named Rick Rainbow. He's the news director for 180 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:29,250 Speaker 2: WWKI in Kokomo, Indiana. 181 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:31,089 Speaker 1: The place where you get there fast and then you 182 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:31,819 Speaker 1: take it slow. 183 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: That's right. And he was another eyewitness, supposedly. He and 184 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:41,100 Speaker 2: three other guys saw this monster there. For sure. 185 00:10:41,120 --> 00:11:04,620 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a few things that are kind of sketchy 186 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,300 Speaker 1: about this story. 187 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:06,470 Speaker 2: Like all of it. 188 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,460 Speaker 1: So that was, I think, so McDaniel's, or no, sorry, 189 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:17,710 Speaker 1: Rick Rainbow's sighting was the last sighting of the Enfield monster, 190 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,230 Speaker 1: I believe. 191 00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:20,110 Speaker 2: I think so. 192 00:11:20,830 --> 00:11:23,950 Speaker 1: But some other people heard it over the course of 193 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:28,010 Speaker 1: the next few days, some weird cries coming from the woods, 194 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:31,209 Speaker 1: and then it just stopped. As quickly as the Enfield 195 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:35,460 Speaker 1: monster showed up, It just went away. And I think 196 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:42,330 Speaker 1: those crypto cryptid investigators opened a case study in 1978 197 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:46,510 Speaker 1: where they really investigated this and they found. I saw 198 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:49,209 Speaker 1: that the guy who is the lead investigator was like, 199 00:11:49,870 --> 00:11:54,380 Speaker 1: I'm baffled by this. But yeah, it's also essentially like 200 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:58,059 Speaker 1: most of the story is basically the the locals wanting 201 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:01,290 Speaker 1: to get in on it and embellishing it. sightings or 202 00:12:01,730 --> 00:12:04,450 Speaker 1: just completely making some stuff up. But he seemed to 203 00:12:04,510 --> 00:12:08,470 Speaker 1: really be intrigued by Henry McDaniel's accounts in particular, at least. 204 00:12:09,070 --> 00:12:13,189 Speaker 2: Yeah. And some of that, you know, alleged actual evidence 205 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:16,069 Speaker 2: like the footprints and the scratched up shoes and the 206 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:19,450 Speaker 2: scratched up sighting. A lot of people were like, you know, 207 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:22,010 Speaker 2: this is a big hoax. They were trying to, you know, 208 00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:27,810 Speaker 2: just dust up some news about their town. So maybe 209 00:12:27,850 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: people would come by and give them some tourist money. Uh, 210 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,050 Speaker 2: but you know, no one really knows what happened. I think, um, 211 00:12:35,330 --> 00:12:37,910 Speaker 2: it's interesting that a guy in Ohio later on said, 212 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:41,570 Speaker 2: you know what? I have a pet kangaroo named Macy 213 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:44,980 Speaker 2: who kind of fits that description and, uh, had gotten 214 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:49,010 Speaker 2: away and was missing. So, uh, this thing bounding around the, 215 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: the hopping, the three, I suppose the tail, if it 216 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,820 Speaker 2: had a funky tail could have been a third leg. Uh-huh. 217 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:58,170 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it was just this guy, Macy 218 00:12:58,190 --> 00:12:58,750 Speaker 2: the Kangaroo. 219 00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:03,030 Speaker 1: It being Macy the Kangaroo is almost as astounding as 220 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:06,660 Speaker 1: it being like a cryptid that has never been discovered before, 221 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: if you ask me. 222 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: Like a guy just having a random kangaroo that happened 223 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: to escape? 224 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:14,940 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what people were shooting at, too. 225 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 226 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: I think that's it for short stuff. This spooky short stuff, huh? 227 00:13:20,770 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, except it's actually not that spooky. I think we 228 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,740 Speaker 2: were more laughing at it. But hey, if you're from 229 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,459 Speaker 2: the surrounding area, I am curious if that legend still 230 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,939 Speaker 2: survives around the campfire. So let us know. 231 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,819 Speaker 1: That means short stuff's out, right? 232 00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:41,050 Speaker 2: I think so. Stuff You Should Know is a production 233 00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:45,490 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 234 00:13:45,890 --> 00:13:48,650 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.