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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today, I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you about what I believe to be the best debut

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Speaker 1: and speaking to my favorite directors. I'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: The Phoenetian Scheme by Wes Anderson. And in the trailer

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Speaker 1: park Kelsey is hopping in because we're finally going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Wicked for Good trailer and how I'm

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Speaker 1: before seeing part two. So thank you for being here,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being subscribed, shout out to the Monday

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Speaker 1: Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies from the

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Speaker 1: Nashville Podcast Network. This is movie Mike's Movie Podcasts. So

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Speaker 1: recently over on Max I watched Pee Wee Herman as Himself.

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Speaker 1: It is the documentary on Paul Rubins, and a big

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Speaker 1: really just a big performance art. Paul Rubens was such

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Speaker 1: and portraying them in plays. He got to start in

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Speaker 1: Turns out he's really good at it. And he always

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Speaker 1: who was not the first pick to direct that movie.

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Speaker 1: Rubins was like, Nah, that's not the right director. Let

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Speaker 1: to check out Tim Burton. He's a new director, hasn't

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Speaker 1: growing up in the nineties, I didn't really know pee

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Speaker 1: really good Tim Burton movie. That kick launched his entire career.

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Speaker 1: From that, he went on to do Beetlejuice and then

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Speaker 1: At number five. I have Greta Gerwick, whose debut movie

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Speaker 1: of their own, which is what I love about Wes

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Speaker 1: Anderson movies. I feel like he is a genre in

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Speaker 1: himself where you just see one frame of a Wes

434
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Speaker 1: Anderson movie now and you know immediately because it has

435
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Speaker 1: very bright and vibrant colors, things are symmetrical, the wardrobe

436
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: is really particular. So even before you hear any dialogue,

437
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: just by looking at it, you know it is a

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Speaker 1: Wes Anderson movie who is going to pay attention to

439
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Speaker 1: every single detail. There is nothing on the screen that

440
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Speaker 1: he did not look over a million times to get

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Speaker 1: it there. And that's what we started to see with

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Speaker 1: The Royal Tennon Bombs and I think overall just had

443
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Speaker 1: one of the best stories out of all of his movies.

444
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Followed that up with The Life Aquatic, which also just

445
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: became an indie darling, and I think in the two

446
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: thousands is where I felt he was the most cool,

447
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: like if you got on MySpace at the time or

448
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: very early Facebook, all the cool at the time. I

449
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: think hipster was starting to be a thing. If you

450
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Speaker 1: were a hipster, you would be decorating your MySpace page

451
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Speaker 1: with Wes Anderson stills, Wes Anderson quotes, and that was

452
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: seen as being cool. That was probably where I started

453
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: to get into his work really, so I think overall,

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Speaker 1: if I just had a favorite Wes Anderson movie to

455
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Speaker 1: show somebody who has never seen his work, I would

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Speaker 1: show him The Royal Tenen Bombs. But I think for me,

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Speaker 1: I like it when he gets into animation. So mister

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Speaker 1: Fantastic Fox from two thousand and nine, I think was

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Speaker 1: the perfect blend of his style of storytelling and adding

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Speaker 1: it to stop motion animation. I really think that's where

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Speaker 1: his style shines. I wish he would do more movies

462
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Speaker 1: like that, because that movie packs an emotional punch. But

463
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Speaker 1: having George Clooney voice of Fox just hit so hard.

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Speaker 1: And I also just love animation, so if I could

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Speaker 1: only see him do animated movies from here on out,

466
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. I think his biggest hit, though,

467
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Speaker 1: where he really crossed over was The Grand Budapest Hotel,

468
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Speaker 1: And to think about Wes Anderson movies, he is able

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Speaker 1: to make them for a lower amount of money and

470
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Speaker 1: if they can hit just right, they can be really profitable,

471
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: which is why he continues to have the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: make these movies with these really big movie stars. If

473
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Speaker 1: you look at the ensemble cast, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a badge of honor for a lot of

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Speaker 1: actors to say I've been in a Wes Anderson movie.

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Speaker 1: So oftentimes you have people like Tom Hanks or Scarlett

477
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Speaker 1: Johansson doing these movies for a much smaller amount than

478
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: they would ask for for a normal movie. He also

479
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: uses them very strategically, where if you pay attention to

480
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: the scenes that they are in, sometimes you can tell

481
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: they probably only had to be on set maybe one

482
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: two days a week at max because their cameos sometimes

483
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: go pretty quick. But I think the Grand Budapest Hotel

484
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: was his biggest sleeper hit because it only cost twenty

485
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Speaker 1: five million dollars to make and went on to make

486
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three million dollars worldwide. He hasn't

487
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: really achieved that level of success in the twenty twenties.

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00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: The French Dispatch in twenty twenty one was probably my

489
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Speaker 1: least favorite Wes Anderson movie. I really wanted to like it.

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Speaker 1: You had Timothy Schallome in there, but that movie was

491
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Speaker 1: a little bit confusing to me. Which is a thing

492
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Speaker 1: about Wes Anderson films is you have to pay attention

493
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Speaker 1: to the dialogue, and sometimes you can pay attention so

494
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: much and at times not know what is going on

495
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: because they are so artsy, the humor is so dry,

496
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: it's very wacky, and that one just didn't really land

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Speaker 1: for me. But a couple of years ago, in twenty

498
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: twenty three, I loved Asteroid City. That movie cost twenty

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Speaker 1: five million dollars to make, ended up making around fewty

500
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Speaker 1: million dollars at the box office, so not a major hit.

501
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: I think it still broke even in the end. And

502
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: the Phoenicians Scheme cost a little bit more to make

503
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: than that one. This one costs about thirty million dollars.

504
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: So what this movie is about. You have Bensio del Toro,

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00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: who is just such a unique looking guy. And I

506
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: think when Wes Anderson picks the actors he wants in

507
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: his movies and his frequent collaborators, they just have very

508
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Speaker 1: unique looks where you just see them, you put them

509
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: in a Wes Anderson wardrobe and they fit perfectly. I

510
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: wonder does he even see actors as people because he

511
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: is such an artist and so creative, does he see

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Speaker 1: them as real humans or does he just see them

513
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Speaker 1: as paint he can put on his palette and use

514
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Speaker 1: his brush to make his art. Because that is a

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Speaker 1: vibe I get from the people he chooses to be

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Speaker 1: in his films. Beniso del Toro just has a very

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Speaker 1: unique look to him. He's been in a lot of

518
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Speaker 1: Wes Anderson movies where even picking apart the framing and

519
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: the color palettes and the cinema taography, it also comes

520
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: down to facial structures of who can and can't be

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00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: in a Wes Anderson movie. But Benissa no Toro's character

522
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: is this wealthy businessman who is very polarizing. A lot

523
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: of people want to see him dead, so much so

524
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Speaker 1: that there's been eight failed assassination attempts. So he realizes, man,

525
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: somebody's out to get me. I gotta do something. So

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Speaker 1: he goes to his daughter, who doesn't have the best

527
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Speaker 1: relationship with him, and tells her, I need you to

528
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Speaker 1: be the sole heir to all of my fortune, even

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Speaker 1: though he has a lot of kids. He wants his

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Speaker 1: daughter to take over in case one of these assassination

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Speaker 1: attempts ends up taking him out. And the thing about

532
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: his character is anytime he is on a plane, that

533
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: plane is going down. That is how this movie opens up.

534
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: So he goes to her, she is reluctant to do it.

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Speaker 1: His daughter in the movie is played by Mia Threapleton,

536
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Speaker 1: who is also Kate Winslet's daughter. Doesn't use her mom's

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00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: last name, uses her dad's last name, who was also

538
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Speaker 1: in the industry, but I thought she was fantastic in it.

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00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: So they are the two main characters, along with Michael Sarah,

540
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: which it was good to see him in a movie

541
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Speaker 1: again on this scale. And Michael Sarah just looks like

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00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: he was meant to be in a Wes Anderson film,

543
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: like I've been talking about. He has that very unique look,

544
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: even going way back to Super Bad, and just his

545
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: overall mannerisms and how for a period of his life

546
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: he was probably seen as an actor who just played

547
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: the same character over and over. Really stepped it up

548
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: in this role. But he is playing what I feel

549
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: would have been the Jason Schwarzman character in this movie,

550
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: because Wes Anderson always goes to his main people, it's

551
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: usually Jason Schwartzman, who plays the kind of quirky, very

552
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: dry character. But I'm glad they went with Michael Sarah

553
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: because I feel like it brought a whole new energy

554
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: to the cast, which I think is the only thing

555
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: that's really been holding back the last few Wes Anderson

556
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: movies from really feeling like something different. Sometimes they start

557
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit repetitive because he has such

558
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: a unique way that he likes dialogue spoken, which I

559
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: wonder how he directs people on how to speak, because

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00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I feel because he also is a co writer on

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00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: this film in particular, but he's usually involved in writing

562
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: his movies as well, I feel like he is so

563
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: particular about not only every single line on the page,

564
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: but I feel like it has to have a rhythm

565
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: to it, much like a songwriter would write a song

566
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: and say this is how you have to sing this song.

567
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: This is the melody. I almost feel like his dialogue

568
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: has a melody to it where it has a rhythm.

569
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Speaker 1: So I feel like there's this extra level of work

570
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: that an actor has to do to not only learn

571
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: the dialogue but also learn the manner in which you

572
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: speak it where it's very dry. I just think it

573
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: is an incredible thing to pull off. And I imagine

574
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: the editing of this movie is just very particular, very precise,

575
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: because a lot of what makes this movie funny, even

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Speaker 1: though it's very dry, is the timing, the visual jokes,

577
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: the dialogue jokes. This movie and its style all comes

578
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: down to the editing, and with the Phoenician scheme, it

579
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: was less comedic than the last couple of movies, which

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00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't even feel fully comfortable calling these movies comedies

581
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: because they are so dry. But if you listen to

582
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: the people in the theater that you go watch it with,

583
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: it does get a lot of laughs. But I feel

584
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: this movie had a little bit more of a Wes

585
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: Anderson thriller type because there's a lot more action. By

586
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: no means is it an action movie, because the action

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00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: that does have is very just quick and subtle and

588
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: very Wes Anderson like. But I would say out of

589
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: all of his most recent movies, and maybe all of

590
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: his movies ever, there is the most blood in this movie.

591
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: There is planes going down, people shooting guns in a

592
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: very Wes Anderson style, but it almost had like this

593
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: level of thriller to it, much more action than an

594
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Asteroid City or the French Dispatch. So I think that

595
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: helped me get into the story more where I feel

596
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: like I started to care about these characters and overall

597
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: care what was going on in the story more so

598
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Speaker 1: than it just being a visual tree, which is usually

599
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: what I just want to go into watching a Wes

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00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Anderson movie. I want to see a live painting happen

601
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: before my eyes and very rich colors and color palace

602
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: that I love, and see images that I would want

603
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: to take and put on my wall back here because

604
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: they are just so perfectly framed and just so uniquely him.

605
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: And I just want movies like this to be successful

606
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: because I want Wes Anderson to go on and make

607
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: a movie every couple of years that I can go

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: into the theater and enjoy. That's why I wonder if

609
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: his movies are still cool or not. Do people care

610
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: about him? Is it only people my age who grew

611
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: up with them in the two thousands that they started

612
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: to become a part of our DNA that are the

613
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: only ones going to his movies now and looking at

614
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: the crowd after this movie let out, I kind of

615
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: started to feel that because it was an older crowd.

616
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: So I wonder do young people even give a crap

617
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: about his movies? Do they get it? Does it feel

618
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: like old Hollywood movies to them? And that makes me

619
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: sad a little bit. So I want this movie to

620
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: do well. But it's also a really hard movie for

621
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: me to recommend because I know it is so specific,

622
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: it is so niche. It is almost like recommending somebody

623
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: to go to your friend's art gallery because it's like, oh, man,

624
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: I know you would enjoy it if you saw what

625
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: I saw, and I won't even think less of you

626
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, because I just think these

627
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: movies are not for everybody, but they are for me.

628
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: So I will continue to support his movies and talk

629
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: about them and go see them in theaters because I

630
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: love them. But I just want to see him do

631
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: a movie that really crosses over into pop culture again,

632
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: which I think he did have a pretty good pop

633
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: as far as back when Asteroid City came out in

634
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, of people making tiktoks in the style

635
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: of Wes Anderson that didn't really happen with this one.

636
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I feel like the promotion wasn't as heavy with the

637
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Phoenician scheme, even to me that I knew was coming out,

638
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of just came out of nowhere. So is it

639
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: my favorite Wes Anderson movie. No, I don't even think

640
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: I would put it in my top five. But I

641
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: did enjoy it a lot more than I was expecting to.

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00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I think a great deal of that was because of

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00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Benicio de Toro's performance and Michael Saatt together. Who would

644
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: have thought they would be so good together. So for

645
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: the Phoenician scheme, I give it four out of five Airplanes.

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Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie Mike Traylor.

647
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Paul all Right, Kelsey is here. On a scale of

648
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: one to ten, how excited are you for Wicked for

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Speaker 1: Good ten? Ten out of ten? Ten out of ten,

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Speaker 1: I would say I'm at about a eight. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: almost to a ten. I feel weird about I feel

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Speaker 1: excited that it's coming out so soon, But I think

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Speaker 1: the fact that they film these all at the same

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Speaker 1: time it takes a little bit of the magic out

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's it makes it more magical. The fact

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Speaker 2: that they had the wherewithal to film like six hours

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Speaker 2: worth of movie all at once.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes I feel whenever one movie comes out and

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Speaker 1: then they take a while to make the next one,

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Speaker 1: the next one looks bad, like the production is a

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Speaker 1: little bit better.

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Speaker 2: But did you see the production on the first time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they did go pretty hard. But I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's that waiting in between seeing like set pictures,

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Speaker 1: seeing things look different, seeing things they can improve on,

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Speaker 1: and now it's just kind of like, oh, this already exists,

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Speaker 1: that already all happens, so it's not going to look

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Speaker 1: any better.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like we get more of oz and

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Speaker 2: the Wizard and maybe less of shiz University. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like we get so.

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Speaker 1: We're exploring something we haven't seen. Yeah, okay, I guess

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Speaker 1: I could see that. I also don't know a whole

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Speaker 1: lot about Wicked. You're going to We're about to, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. But the movie is coming out

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Speaker 1: on November twenty first, so the week before Thanksgiving. Now

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Speaker 1: demonized as the Wicked Witch of the West, Alphaba lives

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Speaker 1: in exile in the is it Ozion forest?

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Speaker 2: Ossion?

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Speaker 1: Oh, of course Ossian Forest. When Glinda resides at the

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Speaker 1: Palace in the Emerald City, living in the perks of

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Speaker 1: fame and popularity. Because she became popular in the as

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Speaker 1: an angry mob rises against the Wicked Witch, she'll reunite

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Speaker 1: with Glinda to transform herself and all of Oz for good.

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Speaker 1: So is it for good like forever? Or for good

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Speaker 1: like for the greater Good?

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Speaker 2: I think it's both.

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Speaker 1: Uh See, I didn't know what it was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was gonna be Wicked Part two.

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Speaker 1: Then they're like, Wicked for Good. I was like, is

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Speaker 1: that for the good of the world? Or is it

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Speaker 1: for good? Like this? Is it for good forever?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have full knowledge because I've never

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Speaker 2: seen all of Wicked. I've never seen the Broadway show.

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Speaker 2: So my knowledge is TikTok.

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Speaker 1: University, Yeah, which I learned a lot.

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Speaker 2: Learned a lot on TikTok University.

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Speaker 1: So for good, like they're setting it in stone, I

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Speaker 1: think it's both. It could be both.

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Speaker 2: I really I do think it's both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But before we get into more, here's just a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the Wicked for Good trailer.

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Speaker 2: The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. No one believes in me

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Speaker 2: more than I did.

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Speaker 1: Alphaba. They're coming for you because I knew you.

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Speaker 2: You're the only friend I ever had, because I knew you,

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Speaker 2: and I've have so many friends, but only one that matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm off to see the Wizard. So this movie is

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Speaker 1: picking up where the first film ended. That's another thing

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Speaker 1: right now is when it comes to spoilers, it's almost

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Speaker 1: like once I say, once the part two comes out,

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Speaker 1: it's almost fair game. We talk about the first one.

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Speaker 2: It's not a spoiler. The Broadway Show has been out.

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Speaker 1: For that's over twenty years. People are so sensitive and

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Speaker 1: it is a spoiler free podcast.

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Speaker 2: O give it. You're even you're among those people. You

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Speaker 2: won't tell me. You won't let me tell you what

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Speaker 2: I've learned from TikTok about Wicked.

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Speaker 1: And I yes because I respect it, because I don't

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Speaker 1: at this point I don't want to know. If I

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Speaker 1: had already known it before the movie came out, that

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Speaker 1: would be one thing.

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna know it before the second part.

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Speaker 1: But for me, I just don't want to know at

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Speaker 1: this point because I want to be surprised in theaters.

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Speaker 1: But we are now going to New York City and

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to Broadway to watch wake it

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Speaker 1: for the first time.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: And I've never been to Broadway. You've been for what I.

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Speaker 2: Went twice last year for the first time ever. My

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Speaker 2: mom and I took a trip to New York in

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Speaker 2: the spring and we saw Hamilton, and then I went

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Speaker 2: to visit my best friends in the fall and we

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Speaker 2: saw The Outsiders.

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Speaker 1: Which did you like more? I mean, obviously is at Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: Hamilton, but I love The Outsider's Book, like it changed

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Speaker 2: my life when I read it in middle school, so

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Speaker 2: to see it on Broadway. But they're just they're two

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Speaker 2: very different things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hamilton is every musical all singing all the time.

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Speaker 1: No was Outsiders singing and acting. Yeah, there was talking,

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Speaker 1: but Hamilton is just a few parts where you.

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Speaker 2: Like sing talks. Because I was listening to the soundtrack

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Speaker 2: today after the Tony's When They Reunited, which just inject

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Speaker 2: that five minutes into my veins. I've watched it so

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Speaker 2: many times.

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Speaker 1: Because I've seen it on Disney plus whenever that came out,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I've experienced it. I know the

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Speaker 1: songs they did. My favorite part of a song during

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Speaker 1: that Tony performance.

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Speaker 2: You love Jonathan Gram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that character is the King. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I've never been, but I've been to plays before, which

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Speaker 1: I know I can't compare the two. But what I

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Speaker 1: remember about going to a play is seeing it in person.

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Speaker 1: You remember every detail. It is so much different than

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Speaker 1: going to see a movie.

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Speaker 2: It's insane and I'm not one. I appreciate the arts

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Speaker 2: so much. I do not want to cry over the arts.

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Speaker 2: I was about to sob during Hamilton because it's just

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Speaker 2: like I think with Broadway too. You know that it

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Speaker 2: is every person's dream to be on that stage. They

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Speaker 2: have worked their whole life. They have auditioned, they have memorized,

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Speaker 2: they've done singing lessons, dance lessons. They got the part,

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Speaker 2: and now they do all of the choreography and they're

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Speaker 2: all moving in sync, and they're all hitting their marks

769
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Speaker 2: at the right time, remembering their note, whether they're sick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they do eight shows a week for most

771
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Speaker 2: of these intense and so you're just there and you

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Speaker 2: I think it's the magic of watching such a beautiful

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Speaker 2: performance and knowing that people are living out their dreams.

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Speaker 2: It's just the magic of it all. I'm I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to see Wicked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited, and I will feel that I won't

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Speaker 1: really care about spoilers because one, we're gonna go see

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Speaker 1: it in person, and a lot of people saw the

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Speaker 1: musical before the movie ever came out, so it's.

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Speaker 2: It's been for ever twenty two years.

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Speaker 1: So at that point, I want to see how it

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Speaker 1: compares to one what we've already seen and then what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see in the fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need to do a rewatch before

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Speaker 2: we go to Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Oddly, we haven't rewatched Wicked. As much as we loved it,

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Speaker 1: whenever it came to Peacock, We're like, oh, it's coming

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Speaker 1: out on Peacock and we haven't rewatched it.

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Speaker 2: We've had so much stuff to bene lately, we've just

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Speaker 2: been binging TV or seeing movies and theaters. But I

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Speaker 2: think we need to do a rewatch. Okay, then we

792
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Speaker 2: need to watch it again after we see the Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Show, so we need to rewatch it.

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Speaker 2: So we need to rewatch it before August before we

795
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Speaker 2: see it on Broadway, and then in between August and

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Speaker 2: when Wicked for Good comes out, we need to rewatch

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Speaker 2: it again.

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Speaker 1: That way we're all cued up to watch the finale

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Speaker 1: of because I have the conclusion as they I want

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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 2: The movie is the same length as the whole Broadway show,

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Speaker 2: the first movie, so primary show is two hours and

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: So you think there's no chance that they change the

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Speaker 1: ending to Wicked for good? No, okay, because.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's more just like adding probably details

807
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Speaker 2: and dialogue and like kind of some of those.

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Speaker 1: Exploring things you can't really explore on a stage. Yeah,

809
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Speaker 1: because I'm watching this trailer and I see them introduce Dorothy.

810
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Speaker 1: There's a scene where you see her slippers. There's a

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Speaker 1: scene where you see her walking down the yellow brick road.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't appear, which I don't feel like this is

813
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Speaker 1: the spoiler because it's in the trailer, but it doesn't

814
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Speaker 1: appear at this moment, and you don't have to give

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Speaker 1: inclination one way or another that she's with the ten

816
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Speaker 1: Men or the line Cowardly Lion. Yet I don't know

817
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Speaker 1: because I haven't seen either. I haven't looked at the

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Speaker 1: spoilers on TikTok. I want to know do these stories

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Speaker 1: inner connect at all, Like does it overlap, because at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of Wicked, it is alpha but dying. That's

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Speaker 1: how they start the movie saying she's dead. That's what

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Speaker 1: I want to know. I haven't looked up as far

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Speaker 1: as what the timing is, but now there was a

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Speaker 1: little glimpse of it in the trailer to the first movie,

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Speaker 1: and now seeing more of it, I'm like, are we

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Speaker 1: just going to get a remake of The Wizard of Oz?

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Speaker 1: So that's what I want to know going into it.

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Speaker 1: But the first movie made seven hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 1: million dollars at the box office. It had ten Oscar nominations,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think it won for anything besides Astro yeah,

831
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Speaker 1: which is a given. And how big that movie was

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Speaker 1: in pop culture. I'm surprised it didn't win any Oscars,

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Speaker 1: and I fear that they only got those nominations because

834
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Speaker 1: it was so big.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Part two or Sorry Wicked for Good.

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Speaker 1: It'll win, yeah, because I hate it when the Oscars

837
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Speaker 1: nominates something just for the sake of it kind of

838
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Speaker 1: walks the lines of being critically acclaimed but also being

839
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Speaker 1: commercially sick accessible, where it's like, oh, we got to

840
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Speaker 1: nominate this, but we're not going to give you any awards.

841
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Speaker 1: We're just going to have you come here. We're gonna

842
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Speaker 1: let you be a part of the show, but then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get it all to a Nora.

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Speaker 2: I've seen people say that they think John Chub will

845
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Speaker 2: win next year and it'll be kind of like a

846
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Speaker 2: culmination of you did these two.

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Speaker 1: Huge for Best Director because he wasn't even nominated.

848
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen people speculate that I'll win next year

849
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Speaker 2: and it'll be kind of a culmination of, Wow, you

850
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Speaker 2: did these two huge movies film Mulla once that came

851
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Speaker 2: out back to back, smashed the box office works of art.

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Speaker 2: That is, I've seen.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest travesties for him not to be

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Speaker 1: nominated for Part one, as big of just a project

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Speaker 1: that it was, and how intricate all the wardrobe, the

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Speaker 1: set design, the story, the singing, the fact that they

857
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Speaker 1: did it live, that he was not even nominated. So

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Speaker 1: I could see that it is harder to get a

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Speaker 1: nomination for a Part two to anything, let alone get

860
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Speaker 1: a nomination to a Part two and win. But I

861
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Speaker 1: think that would make more sense if the Academy is

862
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Speaker 1: being precise in that way, which I think that's also

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Speaker 1: saying a lot about them.

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Speaker 2: Now you know now they just now have to watch

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Speaker 2: all the films.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after that thing came out with that, they were

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Speaker 1: basically putting it on a tab in their browser letting

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Speaker 1: it run. That is crazy.

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Speaker 2: That would to be a member of the Academy.

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Speaker 1: I think you just have a pulse and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, other important questions, what are you gonna wear it

872
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Speaker 2: to the theater?

873
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Speaker 1: What does one wear to the theater?

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Speaker 2: I would say dressy, casual, like a nice like slacks,

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Speaker 2: like a button down.

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Speaker 1: Dumb question for you? Does anybody costplay to Broadway?

877
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Speaker 2: I feel like you're not allowed.

878
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Speaker 1: You can't you tell me how I can enjoy? No, no, no, no.

879
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do like face paint or

880
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: like masks, similar to like movies.

881
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: You can go dressed up. You can't cover your face

882
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: to where you're not recognizable. But I could paint my

883
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: face green and go to see Wicked in theaters.

884
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Speaker 2: Fact check them.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just for lack of a better frame. I'm talking

887
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Speaker 2: on my ass.

888
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I just want to know is there integrity to the

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00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: theater where they're like you have to dress a certain

890
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: way and you can't hoot and holler.

891
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: You definitely can't hoot and holler no no, so oh yeah,

892
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Speaker 2: wearing a costume, well, there's no dress code. You can't

893
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: like obstruct someone's view.

894
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so I can't be distracting. I could see that.

895
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Speaker 1: You can't ruin anybody else's experience.

896
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Speaker 2: It's important to remember that Broadway is the theatrical experience

897
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Speaker 2: and not a theme park according to the Internet.

898
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I think if you pay, which

899
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Speaker 1: is not cheap, and I think that's what probably deters

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. But it's also a smaller theater,

901
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: so it's a very intimate thing. Yeah, you're right.

902
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: It just says, just don't wear a hat. I'm going

903
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: to I'll pack you an outfit.

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Speaker 1: For Broadway because I see it as the same way

905
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Speaker 1: like people get excited to go see the new Marvel

906
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: movie in theaters, and you might dress up like a superhero.

907
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: If you're going to see the new Spider Man or

908
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: Superman movie coming out this summer, you might wear a

909
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Superman shirt or a cape.

910
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Even I feel like people will be more inclined to

911
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: dress like Glinda then go full on Alphabe.

912
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's formal.

913
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: I think it's easier to we're pretty fully dressed than

914
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: it is to like paint your self green.

915
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: I could see that a little bit more. But if

916
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Speaker 1: I wanted to dress like the cowardly line, it would

917
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: be frowned upon by me. Yeah, not by anyone. They

918
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: would let me in with it. He'd be like, sir.

919
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: I will also say it is a very like it's

920
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: become so cost prohibitive to see things on Broadway. Like

921
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Speaker 2: I understand it is a privilege that I've seen two

922
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Speaker 2: shows before and I'm getting to see another one. I

923
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Speaker 2: love the experience. Listen, give me a ridiculously overpriced little

924
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: cup of wine. You get a little soup in your

925
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Speaker 2: show cup, send me down in the theater.

926
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's the difference in I feel I'm

927
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: at a point where there are not many musical artists

928
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: I want to see in concert now because I feel

929
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: like the concert experience is a little bit just I'm

930
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of over it because it has gotten so expensive

931
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: where you're paying two hundred three hundred dollars to go

932
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: see an artist and you see a decent show. I

933
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: feel it's so expensive. I need something more than them

934
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Speaker 1: just performing their songs, Like I need theatrical elements to it.

935
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Speaker 1: I need flames, I need big set design, I need

936
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Speaker 1: something else that makes it more memorable. And I hope

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Speaker 1: that going to see something on Broadway is kind of

938
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Speaker 1: going to give me that where it's like I'm watching

939
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Speaker 1: something that I could only see right here in this moment,

940
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Speaker 1: and there's set design, there's costumes, there's a lot of

941
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Speaker 1: things happening, and it's going to be something I remember,

942
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Speaker 1: you will.

943
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Speaker 2: I also love that you can sit, you sit the

944
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: whole time, no standing too old to be standing at

945
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: a concerts.

946
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I also didn't realize that for Good is also a song.

947
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Speaker 2: In Yes, it's like the biggest number.

948
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Speaker 1: It's out of everything, not out of part two, oh,

949
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: out of part twy. You okay, I'll bet say. I

950
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: hadn't seen the musical or listen to anything, but I knew.

951
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: I guess Defying Gravity was the biggest song to me

952
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: and popular, but that was really more so from the

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Speaker 1: movie that I kind of.

954
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Speaker 2: I don't know much about the second half, so I'm

955
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: excited as well to see, like I know more than

956
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: you do about certain things, but I don't know how

957
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: everything plays out.

958
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: Well, we'll find out on November twenty first.

959
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: And we'll find out before them.

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00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Well, everybody listening, if you haven't it and are going

961
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: to see it, you'll find out on November twenty first.

962
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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen part one at this point, that's

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Speaker 1: on peacock and no green makeup.

964
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Speaker 2: That is correct. You can wear a green Okay. I

965
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: was actually gonna recommend your nice green polo.

966
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Speaker 1: I wear green, you wear pink.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss this off her.

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Speaker 1: All right, lere we go.

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Speaker 2: That was this week's edition of Movie Li tramor Bar.

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Speaker 1: All right, Kelsey is walking away out of here. I

971
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Speaker 1: got to close the episode up, but you're free to

972
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Speaker 1: hang out if you want. I'm still here, Okay. I

973
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Speaker 1: just got to get my listener shout out of the week.

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Speaker 1: This week, I'm going over to YouTube. You can follow

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Speaker 1: me over there subscribe. I'm trying to get to one

976
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Speaker 1: thousand followers. I'm a little bit over halfway there, so

977
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Speaker 1: at YouTube dot com slash Mike Distro, and this week

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Speaker 1: I'm shouting out, Mauricimo. How would you say that name? Marisimo, Marisimo, Marisimo.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would put as much accent

980
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: and inflection.

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Speaker 1: Actue like Maurice Emo. But they recently commented on my

982
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Speaker 1: Warfare review, which is now available to not watch on

983
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Max yet, but you can rent it. I highly recommend

984
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: it great. We also just watched the Osama bin Laden

985
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: manhunt that was an intense thing on.

986
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Speaker 2: Netflix, intense three hours.

987
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: It was almost Watching that documentary made me feel like

988
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: that was way more powerful than any movie about it.

989
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Because I've seen Zero Dark thirty. I wanted to rewatch

990
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Zero Dark thirty after that, but I'm like, I don't

991
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: know if I can, if it gets any more intense

992
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: than learning about the real story. But Warfare is kind

993
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: of in that category of really intense war films. So

994
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: you can't watch it for free yet, but if you

995
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 1: want to rent it, it is available on digital now.

996
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: And they wrote, I because I kind of clickbaited the

997
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: link here the video of why is nobody talking about Warfare?

998
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: Because it came out and it didn't really have as

999
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: much of an impact as I thought, And they wrote,

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Speaker 1: I blame the marketing. I never knew about the film

1001
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: myself until a friend of mine who's into warm movies

1002
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Speaker 1: told me about it. So I think A twenty four

1003
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Speaker 1: didn't go as hard with the marketing of that movie

1004
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: than they did for Civil War. But if you haven't

1005
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: seen that movie, it's a really good one. You liked it, right,

1006
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I loved it. But pretty stressful.

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00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my blood pressure was through the roof.

1008
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't like stressful movies that you're kind

1009
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: of on the edge of your seat and worried about

1010
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: everybody in the film, and maybe not for you.

1011
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: Very realistic, very strusted.

1012
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: But that is the episode for this week. Thank you

1013
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Speaker 1: for being here, thank you for being subscribed, and until

1014
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: next week, go out and watch good movies and I

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Speaker 1: will talk to you later.