1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Jigsaw Dating, 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys and broadcasting live 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Now your host, Nicole Hutcheson. 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: All right, Cowboys Nation, Welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk, 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: presented by Jigsaw, the third dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Right here in the SWBC studio. We got a little 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: bit of a twist today in Bargarcia. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello. 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: We got Patrick nocy Walker, what up? 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: What up? 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: And we got Heck the Hairs in the studio with me. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 5: I'm glad. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: It's a lot of crash in the party today, a 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: lot of things going on today. We'll start with the 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: obviously the biggest news of the day, with Jerry Jones 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: talking to the fan this morning and the fan crew 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: pretty much just asking questions about the off season and 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: you know the state of Mike McCarthy, Dak Prescott, and 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: just the team itself. I'll start with you, Patrick no 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: C Walker, what would you take of that conversation this morning? 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 7: I like a pissed off Jerry Jones. I like me 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 7: it pissed off Jerry Jones because it tells me that 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 7: it tells me the losses are getting to him, right, 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 7: because so often he has the political face on where 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, it's eternal optimism and ites, we'll write 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 7: the ship, We'll write the ship. But then when I 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 7: heard him say certain things after the game outside of 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 7: the locker room, things like this is quote unquote very 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 7: concerned and this is humbling. We've got to reassess, We've 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 7: got to fix this. When I start hearing him say 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 7: things like that and get chippy, and then now here 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 7: we are a couple of days removed from that, you 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 7: would think, okay, well maybe that was heat of the moment, Jerry. Okay, well, 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 7: forty eight hours later he's on the fan, and that 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 7: wasn't heat of the moment, Jerry, right. So seeing him 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 7: get emotional like that, if you're a Cowboys fan, it 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 7: should at least tell you that he gives them. Now, 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 7: the question being what does that manifest itself into as 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 7: far as a possible trade. 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 8: For a free agency acquisition. 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 7: To be determined, I don't know, but at least it's 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 7: showing that he cares is where I'm at with it. 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 8: Now. 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 9: It's just like what happens next? Yeah, look, so many 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 9: red flags for me. I think from a media standpoint, 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 9: those guys are well within their right to ask the 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 9: tough questions and they want an answer to it. But 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 9: Jerry is well within his right to be pissed off 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 9: about the questions. And so, you know, a fair exchange 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 9: has never been in a robbery. As my mom would 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 9: always say, you know, it's it was one of those 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 9: things that obviously at the end of it, it felt 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 9: more one sided than anything because now Jerry's saying, yeah, okay, it. 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Felt one sided because because Jerry, you know, he flexed 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: on him. 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 9: Basically, that was a flex and a lot of times 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 9: when you see people flex on it, you know, those 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 9: that are you don't like to see that, right when 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 9: a guy can say, you know, I'll get somebody else 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 9: to ask ask this question, and he can literally do that, 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 9: you know. So I think that was the one thing 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 9: that was to turn off. But I'm with you, no, See, 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 9: it's like everybody's pissed off and sometimes you know, like 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 9: for me, I'm a big boxing fan and it's a 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 9: termined boxing that a loss can change your DNA, and 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 9: sometimes these home losses have started to change our DNA right, 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 9: And these are bad losses. These are the kind of 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 9: losses that when you come back to you say, if 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 9: I'm looking for a silver lining and that I can 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 9: find nothing that says this reminiscent of a team that 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 9: you would think would make a run or do anything positive. 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 9: And getting asked me to home too right on top 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 9: of that, And so we know how Jerry feels about 79 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 9: the fans at and t and all of those things, 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 9: and it's an embarrassment. And what you're getting is the 81 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 9: blowback from all of that. They just happen to be 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 9: right place, right time, and they got probably the worst 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 9: of what he was feeling. When you're asking those questions, 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 9: because everybody's asking the same questions, the same questions being asked. 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 9: What were you doing in the offseason, what were you 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 9: thinking about? How did you think that this particular roster 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 9: could compete? And so a lot of people that's in 88 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 9: the know in the NFL, they feel like, man's that's 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 9: gross negligence if you thought that these group of guys 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 9: could actually get it done. But you know, if you 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 9: look at any championship level team, how many guys they've 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 9: gone through. And guys get hurt in the NFL all 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 9: the time, So that's where we are. Nobody's talking about 94 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 9: the injuries and all of that. They're just talking about 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 9: you got beat down at home and that's an embarrassment. 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 9: While I'm piling on the paling on the Cowboys. But look, 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 9: I won't try and make this any bigger than what 98 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 9: it is. Obviously it's big in the media, it's the Cowboys, 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 9: and it's rightfully so. But at the end of the day, 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 9: we just got to fix what we got going on here. 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 9: This running game right now is bisal. 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Everything is abysmal. 103 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 8: And what do you think? 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 10: Sorry, straight to the yes, what's up with the glasses 105 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 10: and these lights? 106 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Is that what it is? 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 8: You know? 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was just talking about. I was like, every boy, 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: you're too cool for school, That's what it is. 110 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 10: You with the glasses think that people think I'm just 111 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 10: acting cool or people think I show up to work hungover. 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: Neither, it's neither. 113 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 10: It's just these lights are too bright and I don't 114 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 10: want to damage my eyes more than they Okay, I 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 10: look at the screen all day. I don't need extra 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 10: bright lights every day. 117 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm so sorry those who know, no, 118 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: thank you. 119 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 11: This is a big thing. 120 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 9: Come over and shining like, yeah, you can't. 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: You can't either dress. 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 10: That's funny. No, but back to the conversation. I think 123 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 10: one thing is clear, and I think fans are always 124 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 10: thinking that Jerry doesn't care. I mean nothing. Jerry wants 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 10: nothing more than to get to the super Bowl and 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 10: finally win again, that there's no other thing that he 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 10: would want more than that. At the same time, I 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 10: understand both sides. I understand the people asking the questions 129 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 10: because those are the questions we have to fall back onto, 130 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 10: like this is what it took to get to this 131 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 10: point where we're at. And I also understand Jerry's frustration 132 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 10: and firing back and being like, look, what's the point 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 10: of talking about the past where we're here now. This 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 10: is the moment and this is what we got to 135 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 10: focus on. So I get all his frustration. What concerns 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 10: me though, When you hear those kinds of answers, it 137 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 10: makes me think, at least like, Okay, are you really 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 10: trusting the team right now? I think when you hear 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 10: those things, it makes me think that maybe you're at 140 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 10: a point where you're seeing that there's possibly no direction 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 10: or quick solution in the right now in like after 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 10: the bye week, like there's not much of you can 143 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 10: do at this point. And maybe that's where the frustration 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 10: comes from, because if you were truly confident, you stand 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 10: up and you speak it with confidence, and you speak 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 10: like he's always spoken, and he's known to always be 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 10: a very positive person and always looking at the bright side, 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 10: even if the building is burning down. He always has 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 10: some brightness to it and positive sides of things. But 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 10: that part is just what it leads me to. Okay, 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 10: is there really a sense of direction here? Is there 152 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 10: really some type of solution that could potentially happen in 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 10: the near future? And that's my concern at the moment, 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 10: And I don't know if there isn't it? 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 8: No, you're right. 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 7: My thing is with Jerry and I said this a 157 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 7: few weeks ago on Talking Cowboys when the narrative was 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 7: kind of locked on the CD lamb as far as 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 7: Demeter on the sideline, And my thing is, if it's 160 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 7: a player, rather it be a player, a coach, front office, executive, 161 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 7: show me you care, right, and then we can build 162 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 7: on that. Right, I first need to feel that you 163 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 7: care about this as much as I care about this, 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 7: whatever the topic might be. 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: Now. 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 7: Once I see that you got the passion for it, now, 167 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: the next question becomes, what's the fix? 168 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 8: What's the fix? 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 7: So that's why I am with it, right, because, more 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 7: often than not in the history of Jerry Jones, when 171 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: he gets this chippy and this agitated, regardless of what 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 7: he says in the realm of we're looking inward, the 173 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 7: solutions are on the roster, whatever the case may be. Well, 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: he was this agitated before the Amari Cooper trade, right, 175 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 7: and I don't believe he's going to make an nd 176 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 7: season head coaching change. But to my point, he was 177 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 7: this pissed off during twenty ten during the way Phillips 178 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 7: to Jason Garrett change. Jason Garrett Change. Don't believe he's 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 7: going to move on from Mike McCarthy this year. I 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 7: believe McCarthy is final to let this rite play out. 181 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 7: But my being when I start to see Jerry get 182 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 7: this pissed and the armor get this fractured, typically there's 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 7: something on the other. 184 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: Side of that. 185 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Well, my question is why does it have to take 186 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: this long to get pissed off because we've been talking 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: about the same thing since. I mean, y'all have been 188 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: here longer than I have, so probably years previous than 189 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. But I feel like last year we 190 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: were having the same conversations of the personnel and the 191 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: run game, defending the run up until the Green Bay loss. 192 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Up until now. 193 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the same issues that you could 194 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: take to have, and you're waiting until the bye week 195 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: to show that frustration because you're now getting these consistent 196 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: questions coming at you about how do you fix it? 197 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 7: I'll tell you why, and it's something And I thought 198 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 7: it was right back to Hegma because it's something he 199 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 7: said in his first his first answer. This season is 200 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 7: not like last season, which was the last season wasn't 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 7: like the previous season. This is different, right, because over 202 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 7: the previous two seasons, you had your struggles on the road, 203 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 7: but you were kicking ass at home. You had things 204 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 7: you could use to excuse other things away. Yeah, get 205 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 7: built on right, but when you're getting demolished at home. 206 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 7: This is now your fourth straight not only lost, but 207 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 7: your fourth straight humiliation on your own field, and the 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 7: last one came on your birthday, right, Okay, So when 209 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 7: that's happening and everything is failing, you don't have anything 210 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 7: that you can hang your hat on and say, well, 211 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 7: the defense is playing well, for the offense can't get 212 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 7: it together. Or if the offense is playing well, for 213 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 7: the defense is struggling. No, no, no, both of them. Both 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 7: of those things are very poor right now. And you're 215 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 7: three and three, and even the three wins you have, 216 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 7: you can't brag about those three. You barely escape with 217 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 7: those three and the one you didn't barely escape with 218 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 7: was against the Cleveland Browns. And we see what kind 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 7: of team they are right now, there's nothing to hang 220 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 7: the hat on. 221 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: Now. 222 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 7: In twenty twenty three, you could say, well, the offense 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 7: is looking good. In McCarthy's first year, they're trending toward 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 7: being the number one offense, and they ended up being 225 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 7: the number one offense. The defense was taking the ball 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: away all over the place. We couldn't fix the run defense, 227 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 7: but we can get the takeaways. You can't stop the run. 228 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 7: You're not get and takeaways. You can't pass the ball, 229 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 7: you can't run the ball. Yeah, that's why. Now he's pissed. 230 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 7: Off versus this time last year. 231 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: What kind of conversation should be had? And where do 232 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: you start this week? 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 9: You know, it's gut check time. I don't know about 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 9: you guys. If you went back and I went back 235 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 9: and watched the film. It's hard to watch this. Detroit 236 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 9: lost and we've watched. If this is our responsibility, we 237 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 9: have to watch film because we got to come in 238 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 9: here and know what we're talking about. That what Dan 239 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 9: Campbell did to the Cowboys defense Ben Johnson, that was 240 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 9: a humiliation of your team. And you didn't just get beat, 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 9: you got humiliated. And you know, one of my favorite 242 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 9: movies is The Godfather. Well, the Godfather's my favorite movie. 243 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 9: And one of the one of the great scenes in 244 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 9: The Godfather is when Vito Colio sends his lawyer to 245 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 9: speak to a Hollywood executive, Jack Watson Waltz, and he says, I. 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Never watched this. Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm getting judged. Yeah, 247 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: you've never You've never seen The Godfather. 248 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: No, that's why I'm kind of looking at it. 249 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: Wow, we'll speak offline, okay, okay, So great movie and 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: so once in one of these scenes he's veto scenes 251 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: John Hagen his lawyer to go talk to a Hollywood 252 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: producer about putting Johnny Fountaine in this in this movie, 253 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: and the Hollywood producer tells him no, He's never gonna 254 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: be in this movie. 255 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: And that only tells him no once. 256 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 9: He tells him no twice emphatically, and the Hollywood producer 257 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 9: the next morning wakes up with a horsehead in his bed. 258 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 9: And it is one of those scenes. It's a Mafia movie, 259 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 9: is an iconic scene everybody know, but it's it's one 260 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 9: of those displays of power. And to me, that was 261 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 9: what Dan Campbell showed the Cowboy. It was a display 262 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 9: of power. I'm gonna line my offensive tackle at the slot. 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 9: I'm going to run a hook and ladder. I'm gonna 264 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 9: like yo, I'm gonna embarrass you. I don't want to 265 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 9: just beat you. I want you to feel all of this. 266 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 9: And in matter of fact, as a matter of fact, tomorrow, 267 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 9: the next day, all week, I'm gonna make this family 268 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 9: dysfunctional because of this loss, and you're gonna and you're gonna, 269 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 9: and I wanted to bring the whole house down. And 270 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 9: that's that's kind of the feel that I got from 271 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 9: that loss. And I feel like that is something that 272 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 9: probably Jerry has had sat down and had a conversation 273 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 9: with Mike, had a conversation with all the front office 274 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 9: guys about about look, if we're gonna lose, we can't 275 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 9: lose like this because this is this is now three 276 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 9: times in a row at home where you've gotten drug 277 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 9: and this last time, like I said, it was just 278 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 9: a complete embarrassment. 279 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: And you gotta watch The Godfather at some point this week, 280 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I oh man, I thought I was 281 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: in the company. 282 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 8: I guess we now figured out what the problem is. 283 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 8: You haven't watched The Godfather him. 284 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 9: Out and it's the seventies nineteen, it's the seventies movie. 285 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 9: But it's a could class. I mean, it is a classic. 286 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 9: It is it's like scarf. Have you seen scar face? 287 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: It's okay, oh wait a minute, not on thele have 288 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: you not? It's okay, Nicole, we in this together. I 289 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: haven't you never seen a scarface? 290 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 8: Okay? 291 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Okay? 292 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 10: Your head in disappointment. 293 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 7: You wat Gangs of New York and reservoir Dogs, and 294 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: I don't know what we will talk off. 295 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 9: You have homework, Yeah, you got so many good you 296 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 9: have good movies to watch. 297 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you got mother. 298 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, go ahead, you go. 299 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: I haven't watched The Godfather, No no. I was asking 300 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: what kind of conversations do you have and where. 301 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 7: Do you start? 302 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 8: What do you start? 303 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 7: I hate to use the same phrase that they used, 304 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 7: but it's so it's so accurate. Man, look in the mirror. 305 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 7: And when I say look in the mirror, I'm talking 306 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 7: about it and every person involved in every aspect of 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 7: the organization. I'm not just talking about the players, but 308 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 7: I'm also talking about the players. I'm not only talking 309 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 7: about the assistant coaches and the coordinators and the head coach, 310 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 7: but I'm also talking about them. I'm not only talking 311 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 7: about ownership in the front office, but I'm also talking 312 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 7: about them. 313 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 8: Because a team. 314 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 7: Goes as every part of the team goes, right, So 315 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 7: whether you're talking about team building with personnel, and then 316 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: once the personnel is in the building, now you're talking 317 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 7: about coaching up that personnel, and then you go to 318 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 7: the personnel itself on the roster and you say, are 319 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 7: you as bought in as you are committed? Are you 320 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 7: as committed? Are you giving you all in each practice rep? 321 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: Because what's disheartening for me is when I talk to 322 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: guys like Jordan Lewis leaders in this locker room. 323 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: Right. 324 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 7: So not two or three weeks ago, I'm talking to 325 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis. It was after the Ravens Laws, and he 326 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 7: kept harping on details, and he was pissed off and frustrated, 327 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 7: and he was saying things and this is on the record. 328 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 7: He's saying things like guys aren't practicing the way they 329 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 7: need to be playing. 330 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: Right. 331 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 7: So when now you're talking about and add that textually 332 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 7: to when Mike McCarthy starts saying things like, yeah, we 333 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 7: didn't practice well this week. 334 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 8: Okay. 335 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: So I take all of that to mean, especially from 336 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 7: a leader in the locker room like Jordan Lewis, and 337 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 7: I've heard it from a guy like Brandon Cooks, and 338 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 7: I've heard it from some other guys. Whereas you need 339 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 7: all fifty three players on the practice field with every 340 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 7: rep like it's a game, right, as opposed to the 341 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 7: way Jordan Lewis described it was, the effort is not 342 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 7: the same as when it's in the game. Guys think 343 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 7: that they can just turn it on in the game, 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 7: but this is the NFL. You can't just turn it 345 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 7: on in the game because the guy you're lining up 346 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 7: against is just as good, if not sometimes better than you, 347 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 7: whether you want to admit that or not, So you 348 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 7: have to level up. 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 8: So that's from a player standpoint. 350 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 7: From a coaching standpoint, identify, look yourself in the mirror 351 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 7: and say what changes do I need to make. I 352 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 7: love what Mike Zimmer said today because it was it 353 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 7: was vulnerability. Zimmer said he admitted early against the Lions. 354 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 7: He said, I panicked. This is your defensive coordinator saying this. 355 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 7: This is accountability. This is what looking in the mirror 356 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 7: looks like. Said, I panicked, I got away from my 357 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 7: game plan too soon and things started to kind of snowball. 358 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 7: That's what I mean when I say every single person 359 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 7: from the seventeen on the practice squad to the fifty 360 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 7: three on the active roster, to the assistant coaches, to 361 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 7: the head coach to the front office, everyone needs to 362 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 7: look at what their role has been thus far in 363 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 7: this team failing at home and falling to a three 364 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 7: and three record. And until that happens, there will continue 365 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 7: to be pockets of things that aren't up to par, 366 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 7: and then you will continue to stumble over the remainder 367 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 7: of this season, and then in the off season you'll 368 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 7: find yourself asking the bigger questions that everybody's really going 369 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 7: to be asking and Jerry's really going to get pissed 370 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 7: off about. 371 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 10: So I'm a slightly different opinion. But this whole look 372 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 10: in the mirror stuff and not that this is not 373 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 10: against you, I think I'm over it. 374 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm over the coach just happened so quickly. I'm over 375 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: it because I've been hearing it too much. I'm I'm 376 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: saying I get the same message. 377 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 10: This mirror thing is not working. Like, how about we 378 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 10: put the mirror there and then we got people to 379 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 10: point out why we're all looking in the mirror because 380 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 10: I feel like some people are not seeing what they 381 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 10: need to see in the reflection of it. 382 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 7: You know what, That goes to what I said I 383 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 7: think was yesterday I'm talking cowboys, that your reflection in 384 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 7: the mirror is is only as qualified as the how 385 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 7: clean the mirror is. Right, So if the mirror is 386 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 7: is fractured, or if it's foggy because you didn't vinegar 387 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 7: that thing down before you looked into it, then what 388 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 7: you're looking at is not a true reflection of what 389 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 7: should what you should be seen. So to your point, 390 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 7: I don't think the mirror is the problem. It's what 391 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 7: kind of mirror they looking at. Are they bouncing ideas 392 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 7: off of the right things, and are they looking at 393 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 7: themselves the right way? Because if I I'm going to 394 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 7: internalize this, if I look in the mirror and I 395 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 7: let's say I went to the gym yesterday, right, if 396 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 7: I look in the mirror after I went to the 397 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 7: gym and was like, you know what, I'm good, Right, 398 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 7: I just hold myself that before I even looked in 399 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 7: the mirror. So now when I look in the mirror, 400 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 7: I'm going to I've convinced myself of what I want 401 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 7: to see, and vice versa. 402 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 8: Before I look in the mirror, I'm like, yeah, I'm 403 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 8: out of shape. 404 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 7: When I look in the mirror, all I'm doing is 405 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 7: perpetuating what my thought process. So it's about that as 406 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 7: much as it is to your point, about surrounding yourself 407 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 7: with people who can check you and say, you know what, 408 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 7: you could get a couple more reps in or you 409 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 7: know what, You're totally fine, like, so have that conversation. 410 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 8: It's a checks and balances. 411 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a root of effort, And to 412 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 10: your point, in the whole practicing situation. 413 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: I think. 414 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 10: How hard or how well you're practicing during the week 415 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 10: should never be a topic of concern or conversation. 416 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 7: That should be. 417 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 10: Like, this is what we do, this is why we're professionals, 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 10: this is why we get paid. So that should never 419 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 10: be a discussion. You should never have even players talking 420 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 10: to the media saying hey, or even Mike McCarthy saying 421 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 10: we had a bad practice week. That should never happen. 422 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 10: And I put that on leadership. I put that on 423 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 10: Mike McCarthy and the way. And there's a difference here 424 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 10: because I love my McCarthy as a head coach, I'm 425 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 10: not a huge fan of him as a play caller. 426 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 10: I think that even when they've won games, even last year, 427 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 10: even when they rack on the top with stats and 428 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 10: things like that, there has been a ton of underlying 429 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 10: issues that the offense has had, recurrent issues that we 430 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 10: don't see fixed. Things about discipline and when you get 431 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 10: called on a penalty, things that should be corrected, and 432 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 10: over the years they don't get corrected. So I think 433 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 10: he just comes down to the leader and what you're 434 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 10: allowing and not allowing and how you're reinforced, like reinforcing 435 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 10: different things as a group, because and I can speak 436 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 10: as a parent, when you see a kid do it, 437 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 10: do something, either correct it or don't, and he's either 438 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 10: gonna keep doing it or eventually he's gonna get better 439 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 10: and stop doing the same thing over and over. He'll learn. 440 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 10: He'll learn because there will be some consequences. And I 441 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 10: feel that this team right now, you don't have the 442 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 10: luck to really give consequences, but there should be some 443 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 10: type of consequence and bar. 444 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 9: And it comes down to how many kids you got. 445 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 9: You might be a little bit harsh on the first one, then. 446 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: You are on the fourth. But I ain't got no kids. 447 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 9: Godfather, we can't even talk to you. 448 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: I kind of want to go back to before we 449 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: wrap things up on the first before our first break, 450 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: what you guys mentioned about the practice. That's something that 451 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: we heard every with every coordinator, every offensive assistant, every 452 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: defensive assistant. Today when we have a chance to kind 453 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: of hear from them today, and they said that we 454 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: have to go back to the fundamentals and practice. We're 455 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: not taking the time out to go back to the fundamentals, 456 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: and it kind of concerns me because former D one 457 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: player play tennis Howard Hu you. 458 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: Know, and I love that. Let's go and so. 459 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, if something's not working and you go 460 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: back to the mechanics, you're working on that the next 461 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: day for hours if necessary, and so and even if 462 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: that's not in the practice time that we were allotted, 463 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 3: which was three hours a day in practice at Howard, 464 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: I'm working on that outside of practice, so that it 465 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: goes back to how bad do you want it? And 466 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: if you want it bad enough? And from my perspective, 467 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: and this is no shade to any of the players, 468 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: love covering these guys. They're great in the locker great 469 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 3: guys in the locker room. But I haven't seen that 470 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: like real hunger just yet. I don't know, am I 471 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: missing something? 472 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 9: I just want to say that that back to something 473 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 9: that Ambar said that that should be the least of 474 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 9: what we're talking about. We should not be talking about 475 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 9: practice and when you practice game, not the game, but 476 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 9: practice but in preparation for I mean, in football you 477 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 9: only get so many of these. It's not like basketball 478 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 9: where you get eighty two games. I mean, this is 479 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 9: this the point when you start looking at the Nick 480 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 9: Sabans of the world, the Bill Belichick's of the world, 481 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 9: the guys that you ask yourself, how do they prepare 482 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 9: for every moment that happens in a football game? You 483 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 9: know this Bill Belichick when his New England team was 484 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 9: at the top. They could play a three to four, 485 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 9: they could play a four to three, they could play 486 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 9: a fifty two. 487 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: They could do anything offensively. 488 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 9: They can run the ball, they short passing games, They 489 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 9: had it all and it seemed like they were never 490 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 9: out of any game at any moment. The Cowboys have 491 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 9: looked like a team that's disjointed, and that's what gives 492 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 9: you the biggest pause in concern. And also when the 493 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 9: coaches come and they echo and the players echo the 494 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 9: same thing, like what are we doing in practice to 495 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 9: get better? And like I said, like Ambar said, that 496 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 9: should be the least of your worries. And I think 497 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 9: for all of this literally falls on the head coach. 498 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 9: We've seen some early head coaching changes, and you ask yourself, 499 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 9: what was Robert Solad's preparation. 500 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: In New York? 501 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 9: You know, what were some of these other guys that 502 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 9: have been moved, Like what happened in those situation where 503 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 9: those teams completely came apart and they did not look 504 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 9: like they were prepared for the moment. 505 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: Last Sunday, that was a team that did not. 506 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 9: Look like they were ready for a team that you know, 507 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 9: was upper echelon in every number that you expect in 508 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 9: running in every statistical category that mattered. 509 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions of that they just weren't ready for. 510 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 8: No, they didn't. 511 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 7: They weren't ready, and they didn't They didn't come off 512 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 7: of the bus, so to speak, at any point during 513 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 7: their game. Right, So you're getting manhandled on the first 514 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 7: drive and you go down and you know you can 515 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: move the ball, but then self afflicted wounds, red zone interceptions, 516 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 7: things like that, and as things started to go poorly, 517 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 7: they they were allowed the snowball. Right So where was 518 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 7: the mental check to say, okay, well, you know what, 519 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 7: here's what we locked out, here's what we lock in. 520 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 7: It never happened, and then it ended up being forty 521 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 7: seven to nine on your own field. And that's it's 522 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 7: not a one off, and that's the bigger problem. It's 523 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 7: not a one off. This team is going from being 524 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 7: the most dominant team in the NFL at home to 525 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 7: being the least dominant team in the NFL at home, 526 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 7: and they need to figure that out because you're not 527 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 7: gonna win the division losing constantly at home, let alone 528 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 7: the conference, let alone make a run in the playoffs, 529 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 7: and especially when it's not like you're. 530 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 8: Again, it's not like you're dominating road games either. 531 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 7: Your marginals come from and then Aubrey right, and then 532 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 7: of course Cat Turpin contributed to that with the kick return. 533 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: So I mean you there's so much to figure out 534 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 7: at so many levels. There is no quick fix. So 535 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 7: to go back to your original or one of your 536 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 7: original questions, you know, what's the first thing you look at, Now, 537 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 7: what's what's one of the quickest fixes. 538 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 8: There is no quick fix. 539 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 7: You have two weeks to get as much as you 540 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 7: can together before you go out to San Francisco, which 541 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: is kind of a dual thing because one it's like, God, 542 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: I'm just glad they're back on the road now because 543 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 7: this is where they win games. But then it's like, 544 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 7: oh it's against San Francisco. Okay, So all right, so 545 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: you got two weeks to fix as much as you can, 546 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 7: but this has to happen quickly, has to happen in 547 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 7: real time, and it's not going to be easy. 548 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 8: It hasn't been easy. 549 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: And the eternal optimism is from Jerry Jones is out 550 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 7: the door. Now I get why. So now the question 551 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 7: is again, you're pissed off? Good, That's what I need 552 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 7: to see. 553 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: Now what and ways to fix it. 554 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer said that they have three questions that the 555 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: coaching staff ask themselves during this bye week is what 556 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: can we change? What can we adjust? And what can 557 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: we emphasize? 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I love shows, movies. 609 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 8: I just I don't know shows are good. 610 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: Y'all are looking at me like I'm just I'm not. 611 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 10: I'm not judging you live your life how you want 612 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 10: to and everybody else. 613 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 8: Shoot, that is completely fair. 614 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 10: I'm judging. 615 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Certain things. 616 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 8: I would judge that you have seen Friday, right, I have. 617 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: No No, I was just for common ground. 618 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 5: We here out with that one. 619 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: That's the end of friendship, all right, ladies and gentlemen. 620 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: What can we change about this Cowboys team? 621 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's start with offense. 622 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: What can they adjust and what can they emphasize on 623 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: this week? 624 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: I want to hear from I want to show the 625 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: problem with Mike McCarthy. 626 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 10: I said this on the break the other day. I 627 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 10: think we should seek out and get David Goggins to 628 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 10: do y'all know, yes. 629 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, we know. 630 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 8: I'm sorry I didn't say it out loud. 631 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need seal training, some. 632 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 10: Kind of motivation, you know, some kind of like exactly exactly, No. 633 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 10: But I don't know how to fix this because again 634 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 10: we talked about the offense. When your defense is struggling, 635 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 10: you're hoping to be able to rely on your offense, 636 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 10: and it hasn't been the case. They have all their 637 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 10: starters for the uh. Other than him, everybody else is 638 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 10: in there. But in general, you have you're you got 639 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 10: your starters. Who your main Yeah, uh healthy. For the 640 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 10: most part, everybody's dealing with something. Most people will are you. 641 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 10: You know, that's fine, But you got your guys that 642 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 10: you're working with. Dak he and and I'm gonna say this, 643 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 10: I love Dak. I've always been a Dak supporter. I 644 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 10: see the talent in him, but at some point it 645 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 10: does get to where it's like, Okay, when are you 646 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 10: gonna be the guy that can carry this offense? At 647 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 10: some point? And I say this because over the years, 648 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 10: and I think he has improved every year in his career, 649 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 10: he's improved his game more and more. But there's been 650 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 10: changing elements all around him through his career where you've 651 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 10: changed coordinators, you've changed head coach, you've changed guys on 652 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 10: the offense in general. So you've changed all these things 653 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 10: to Dak. And when he gets to a game, for example, 654 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 10: like this game, you're expecting more. I get that the 655 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 10: pressure is there from the old line and you're struggling 656 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 10: with that. But there are many other times where I 657 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 10: feel like he's had time, he's had the chance to 658 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 10: make other decisions. Something that is lacking that I think 659 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 10: can be implemented is the running game from him as 660 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 10: a quarterback. There are times that he can escape. He 661 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 10: has the legs, he has the movement. We've seen him 662 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 10: get out of the pocket. We've seen him have the 663 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 10: ability to run and even throw good passes in the run. 664 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 10: And that's something that we haven't seen from him at 665 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 10: all in his game. I know on our show, Brian 666 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 10: brought up the whole thing with in the off season, 667 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 10: he had his ankle that he dealt with something, But 668 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 10: he's healthy right now. So that's an element that I 669 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 10: think we haven't seen at all that could potentially maybe 670 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 10: open things up a little bit in the offense where 671 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 10: it's not that hard to adjust. And after you pay 672 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 10: him that much, I get it, you don't want to 673 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 10: get hurt. Obviously, you got to protect your quarterback. But 674 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 10: at the same time, what are we doing here? 675 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 8: You gotta win games? 676 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 10: Yeah time, Yeah, So am I saying how do you 677 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 10: improve in the offense. That's something that I would like 678 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 10: to see from Dak's game to be incorporated into it 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 10: once in a while. And then another thing, and I 680 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 10: don't know, it just comes down to Mike McCarthy and 681 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 10: how his scheme in things and with guys you have 682 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 10: very talented players. Hunter Lifkey is another guy that we 683 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 10: he every time you get the call to him. He's 684 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 10: great and we don't see him. Go ahead, let it. 685 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 9: Out, no, no, no, no, because we have this thing 686 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 9: on the players lounge about Hunter Lifkey, and you know 687 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 9: we have been Hunter lip Key doubters, and you know 688 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 9: he's proven us wrong time and time again. 689 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: So I'm disagreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you. 690 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 10: I don't know what else to tell you, because everybody else, 691 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 10: I mean, you think about CD, you think about Jake. 692 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 10: You know they have talent. The talent is there. We've 693 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 10: seen it. We've seen them be really good at making place. 694 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 10: It's just not working out right now. And I think 695 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 10: that the physical aspect of things has become a topic 696 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 10: of conversation that are like the Cowboys are not a 697 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 10: physical football team right now, and I think that's one 698 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 10: of the biggest criticism when facing opponents, that everybody it's 699 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 10: playing faster than them and being more physical and aggressive 700 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 10: than them. 701 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 9: I just had the thought that in my head when 702 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 9: you were seeing that. You know that if I ever 703 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 9: won the lottery, y'all would know it because of I 704 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 9: would go. 705 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: And buy a Bugatti. You would know, you would be like, heck, 706 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: but just won lottery. 707 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 9: That is your key that I just won the lottery 708 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 9: because I'm driving Bugatti. And the thing about a Bugatti 709 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 9: is you cannot put eighty seven in a Bugatti. 710 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: And right now, that's what they got. That's what they got. 711 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: They trying to put eighty seven in this thing. 712 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 9: And the names that we're using are not going to 713 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 9: give you the production that you think. I mean, I'm 714 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 9: looking at Dak and I don't know if much has 715 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 9: changed about his game and bar other than the fact 716 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 9: that when he's had those opportunities to run, he hasn't 717 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 9: taken advantage of it. For some reason. We saw that 718 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 9: last season, like, come on, Dak, you you can pick 719 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 9: the first down up, come on. I mean, whether he's 720 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 9: trying to save us, whatever it is. But there are 721 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 9: times where you ask Dak to do way more than 722 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 9: what you've seen from him in the previous years. To me, 723 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 9: the play, the cast of characters around him is just 724 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 9: not up to par. I know, we look at Ferguson 725 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 9: and say, look, he is next in that line of 726 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 9: great quarterbacks. I mean, excuse me, tight ends in the 727 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 9: in the NFL but some of your second, third, and 728 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 9: fourth wide receivers. 729 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: That's just that, ain't it? That ain't it? 730 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 9: And I mean we'll get on Dak about his interceptions, 731 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 9: but when you go back and look at the tape, 732 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 9: you know, did did Jalen? 733 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: Did he did he break that off to flat? You 734 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: know where was that supposed to be? 735 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 9: I mean there is, there's always an explanation, because no 736 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 9: interception is the same. It's it's sometime on the other guy. 737 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 9: And that's what I feel like Jayleen tovert Dak drops it. 738 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 9: The quarterback coaches to take twenty to twenty, Dak drops 739 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 9: it right at the twenty. I don't sun in your eyes. 740 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 9: Whatever it is, you got to catch that ball. You 741 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 9: got to make that catch. And so many times we've 742 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 9: asked Dak to do more with less, And I know 743 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 9: what comes with the sixty million dollars pay day, the expectation. Dog, 744 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 9: you gotta rise and tide raises all boats you gotta get. Hey, man, 745 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 9: it don't matter. Make those those guys that you have, 746 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 9: make them work, because we've seen Tom Brady do it. 747 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: But have we ever really put Jack in that same conversation. 748 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 9: We're only putting him in that conversation because of the money, right, 749 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 9: And so I'm saying the guys that he has around 750 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 9: him to me, are not living up to their building either. 751 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 9: And so if we're gonna ask CD to break up 752 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 9: teams and do all those other things, we're gonna have 753 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 9: to demand more from these third and fourth guys that 754 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 9: are just really giving you nothing. 755 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 3: So would you change the personnel or would you just 756 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: change so what. 757 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 8: Brandon Scott. 758 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 7: The reason I say to what is because Brandon Cooks 759 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 7: is on IR. Yeah, okay, And for those that were 760 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 7: asking on Twitter, no, the bye week does not count 761 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 7: toward the four game minimum. So just to clear it up, 762 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 7: So Brandon Cooks is on IR. Jalen Tobert stepped up 763 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 7: wonderfully against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he did have that 764 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 7: drop with the sun in his eyes, but he was 765 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 7: outside of that he was one of the only bright 766 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 7: spots no pun intended, son right, he was one of. 767 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 8: The only. 768 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 7: One of the only bright spots in that game offensively. 769 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 7: But I mean it for me, it starts twofold right. 770 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 8: Number one. Your protection has to improve, it has to improve. 771 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 7: So Tyred Guyton, although he missed last week's game, he's 772 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 7: shown flashes of what he can do, go back to 773 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 7: Cleveland versus Miles Garrett. But then he's also had some 774 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 7: struggles as well, particularly with penalties right getting a little 775 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 7: too handsy and he's using his hands to kind of 776 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 7: save the day. But then that draws a Cooper Bby 777 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 7: has had more good games than bad games, but he's 778 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 7: had at least two bad games, and he's coming off 779 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 7: of a bad game right now. So let's attach youth 780 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 7: to that, because they are both rookies and they're learning 781 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 7: on the job, and Cooper bb specifically is performing better 782 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 7: than what people thought he would at this point, but 783 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 7: he's still young. And then you look at Zach Martin, 784 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 7: future first ballot Hall of Famer, coming off the worst 785 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 7: game of his career, or at least the one of 786 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 7: the worst top two games of his career. When you're 787 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 7: getting that type of lack of production from your future 788 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 7: first ballot Hall of Famer, and then your rookies are struggling, 789 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 7: Tyler Smith popped out the left tackle in the absence 790 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 7: of Tyler Gott, and Tyler Smith had his worst game 791 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 7: as a left tackle because in year one with Tyron 792 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 7: Smith went down, Tyler Smith played very well as at 793 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 7: left tackle. No one on the offensive line played well 794 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 7: against the Lions. Go back and look at the Ravens. 795 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 7: It wasn't entirely different than go look at Pittsburgh. You 796 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 7: won against Pittsburgh, but you have protection issues. Okay, so 797 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 7: that's one. But in addition to that the Dak Prescott variable. 798 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 7: Control what you can control. You can't control how well 799 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 7: the guys are protecting in front of you, and that's 800 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 7: probably going to lead to a mistake here or there. 801 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 7: That it is just tied to lack of protection. Right, 802 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 7: you got pushed off your spot. You thought you had 803 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 7: a three step drop, but the guys in your face 804 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 7: up the one step. Oh man, what do you do? 805 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 7: But what you can control is red zone. The miscommunication 806 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 7: to ced Lamb in Pittsburgh, the interception left side. 807 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: That's on them. 808 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 7: That that's that's Dak Prescott, right. The miscues between that 809 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 7: and city that continue to show up. That is easily 810 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 7: controllablet by the quarterback and the wires. 811 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 9: So see, let me ask you the Detroit game, was 812 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 9: that not just an amazing play by the defender? 813 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 7: And I said, and I said that in real time, 814 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 7: the receiver is right here in real time when it 815 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 7: happened out like Brian Branch with an amazing sensational I mean, 816 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 7: he fool. 817 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: Said yesterday. Is because do y'all do they believe that 818 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: these teams don't watch film because they play? 819 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 7: Going back to what Heckman said, if you go back 820 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 7: and you watch the film, every interception has a story. 821 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 8: Okay, so two things can be true. 822 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 7: Brian Branch made an exceptional play, and I said it 823 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 7: in a real time like, holy crap, this is why 824 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 7: that's an NFL player. Okay, But even Dak admitted it 825 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 7: in the post game. If Dak looks him off a 826 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 7: split second longer to create keep him paused right there, 827 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 7: so see he can get to that clearance and then 828 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 7: throws it. Then Branch, even though he lays out backward, 829 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 7: it probably goes right over into CD LAMB and where 830 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 7: it's a different conversation. 831 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 8: It's a different ballgame. 832 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 7: You take the lead early in the game, and we're 833 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 7: not talking about offensive struggles in the red zone, right 834 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 7: It is a. 835 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 8: Game of inches. So fantastic play. 836 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 7: I don't want to take anything away from Brian Branch, 837 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 7: but my point for Dak Prescott is he can improve 838 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 7: as well. Right, So in the things that you can control. 839 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 7: Ambom makes an excellent point. And I've beat I've pounded 840 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 7: the table since he came back from injury. And I 841 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 7: understand why in twenty twenty one he didn't do it. 842 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 7: You had the psychological aspect, you were terrified of suffering 843 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 7: that injury again reaggravating it. But we are now in 844 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. If the pressure protection is not there, 845 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 7: or the players breaking down and you see any kind 846 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 7: of green Mahomes, that thing right, Mahomes will not He'll 847 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 7: sit back for a second, but then he gets shifty, 848 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 7: he gets itchy, and then he makes the pass rushers 849 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 7: work because they know that he's not in that spot 850 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 7: every single time. There's no reason Dak Prescott should be 851 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 7: a statue too mobile for that. Not saying that he 852 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 7: has Mahomes mobility, not saying he's Lamar Jackson back there, 853 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 7: but he's not a statue. 854 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 8: No, he's not Payton Manning. And right now something. 855 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 10: That the opposing team is looking at it. 856 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 7: They know all they have to do is keep Dak 857 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 7: Prescott in this particular range of space. 858 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 8: And it's probably a sack. 859 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 7: I want to I'm like you, I want to see 860 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott use his legs to put more pressure. And 861 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 7: for me, you have to do that when your offensive 862 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 7: line is not blocking well. When they're not blocking well, 863 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 7: you're going to have to get out there and make 864 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 7: pass rushers think twice because if they get too aggressive, 865 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 7: they have to bag back and say, wait a minute, 866 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 7: he might actually burn the edge on me. So that's 867 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 7: a dynamic. So Dak Prescott can play better, the offensive 868 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 7: line can play better. Receivers not named well, Ceedee Lamb 869 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 7: can play better. We're not going to say Cede Lamb 870 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 7: can't play better. Ceedee Lamb can play better. Right, everybody 871 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 7: can play better. Jake Ferguson love Jake Ferguson to death, 872 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 7: no secret. I believe he has all pro in his future. 873 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 7: Example against the Lions middle deep left elevate that help 874 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 7: your quarterback out. Your quarterback struggling, your offense is struggling. 875 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 7: That's a jump ball. Come down with that ball, Jake, 876 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 7: and that's that's a catch that he wants back. Everybody 877 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 7: has to improve, But for me, it starts with protection 878 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 7: in the quarterback. And if the protection is not going 879 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 7: to be there, the quarterback needs to get ready to. 880 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 3: Run a whole bunch of things to fix again in 881 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: this bye week. But let's go ahead and take our 882 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: second break before we wrap things up on the show 883 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: and think about this one as well. Who is a 884 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 3: person you need to step up heading into week eight? 885 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 3: I believe yes, we'll. 886 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 5: Be right back. 887 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: My week's is getting a little mixed up with the 888 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: biek What happened? 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It broke my heart. 936 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 7: I got he'll he took the family to Monster Jam. 937 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 7: I want to say last year around this time amazing, 938 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 7: Like not only were the kids into it, but I 939 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 7: found myself like becoming a kid all over again, like 940 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 7: cheering for the monster trucks and the themes. 941 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 10: See, last year he was still too young. I think 942 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 10: this year he would. 943 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 8: That give him the head, Yeah you think, but yeah, 944 00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 8: just it's an experience. 945 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 13: It's I love this for y'all. 946 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 2: Quickly I get a chance to don't you going to 947 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: say you. 948 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 7: Should just go like seriously, it's it's fun in and 949 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 7: of itself. You ain't got to have kids to have 950 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 7: fun at the Monster Truck Ground. 951 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 2: It's fun. 952 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try. 953 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So I got that. 954 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 10: I gotta watch The Godfather. 955 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 3: I gotta watch Scarface the. 956 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 2: Color purple, the color and make conditions. 957 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 3: There's a lot of homework to do. I'm not gonna 958 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 3: all right, you know what? On that note, all right, fast, 959 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: before we wrap things up on the show, who is 960 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 3: a player that you need to see step up the 961 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: rest of the season? 962 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: Just one name, one name, Mazie Smith. 963 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 7: I like that, okay, when he's when he's healthy. I 964 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 7: want to see more from Tyler Guy. Like I said, 965 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 7: he's he's flashed. I need more consistency, and I need 966 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 7: him to do it with the penalties. 967 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 10: I would say, Doc, We've just had a whole conversation 968 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 10: about him, and I'm gonna get into that again. But 969 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 10: I think, like on defense, I feel like just one 970 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 10: player it's not gonna mark the difference. I think it's 971 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 10: gonna take a whole lot more than that than just 972 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 10: one player to really change things up. 973 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 9: I only say I only say I only say Mozzie 974 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 9: Smith is because when I go back and I look 975 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 9: at the film, it's like Mozzi getting moved out of 976 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 9: the middle opens up so many things. To coach Zimmer's defense, 977 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 9: he is. He is like the key piece to everything 978 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,959 Speaker 9: that's going on. And if he does, if you can't 979 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 9: fix him, I think some of those blaring holes that 980 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 9: you're getting in the running Game are gonna continue to 981 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 9: happen to. 982 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. 983 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 3: I don't like that at all as well. I was 984 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: gonna go Ceede Lamb because in this case you need 985 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: stars who are still on the field to step up. 986 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 3: You haven't seen a lot from Ceedee Lamb this season, 987 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 3: which is something that even Shoddy had mentioned that that 988 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 3: that connection has taken a little bit more time. But 989 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 3: you're getting paid the money. You gotta be able to 990 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 3: step up, like the expectations. 991 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 13: Are for Dak So on. 992 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 3: My note, though, we gotta wrap things up and we're 993 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: gonna be back here tomorrow at three pm with more 994 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 3: Ambar Garcia, Patrick Nocy, Walker, Hegma Harrison right here in 995 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: the s O u C studio will be back tomorrow. 996 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 997 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.