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Speaker 1: Campus in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on

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Speaker 1: fifty esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bode Bishop

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Speaker 1: and Nathan Zigura. Ya hy Let's do live on a

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Speaker 1: first Friday edition of the program, Merely Bow and the

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Speaker 1: Great Zee. How you living, Powe? I'm doing great, band

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Speaker 1: doing great here on a Wednesday, getting closer and closer

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Speaker 1: to training camp, which is excited. You know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like these weeks we took that time away, I

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready for it. I'm ready to get

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Speaker 1: into it. So now we're starting to do some position

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Speaker 1: previews which will start to and talk about this Brown seamen.

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Speaker 1: It'll you know, go in line with what's going on

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Speaker 1: on the website as well, and we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: whole two minute drill series of every single position that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, what's also going out that I really

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Speaker 1: want to take a second and urge people to watch

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Speaker 1: him to check out because I'm very proud of them,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's something we've never done before. We've

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Speaker 1: done Brown's breakdowns before, but we've never done it with

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Speaker 1: the players coaches. Yeah, that's fun. And so we've got

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Speaker 1: already out there Alex right, M j Emerson, and David

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Speaker 1: then David Bell with Shadowsha watching their tape from college

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Speaker 1: already from camp and breaking down what they can be

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Speaker 1: for the Browns. So those are out. So we're starting

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Speaker 1: So that does get me a little bit excited. I'm

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Speaker 1: also very excited about the fact that the open is

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at St. Andrews and when we wake up we'll

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Speaker 1: be able to throw it on. You'll be able to

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Speaker 1: have that as kind of a little side of koutramat

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Speaker 1: for your other your other program, which will be just

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Speaker 1: a real treat and and I'm happy to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Quick personal update though, Maverick will be tomorrow. Arden is

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Speaker 1: she's a she's working this summer and she has but

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Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed in this news she has a cupcake

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Speaker 1: something that she is presiding over from six seven three

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Speaker 1: the movies at seven twenty. Obviously that doesn't work, so

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Speaker 1: bumps tell tomorrow. But but nevertheless I believe it. When

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Speaker 1: the tickets are purchased, quite fair, they're purchased. They've been

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Speaker 1: purchasing three different times and transferred from this Wednesday, then

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Speaker 1: the next Wednesday, because that turned out all different grandparents

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Speaker 1: and I said, that's it, and now not everybody can

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Speaker 1: go that originally wanted to go, But we gotta see

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Speaker 1: this movie. I think it's a out of the theaters

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Speaker 1: next Friday, or I can't. I can't book beyond next Friday.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's out of the theater because it

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Speaker 1: for the second time. I don't know. The one good

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Speaker 1: which surprised me. I thought Thursdays more of a night out,

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Speaker 1: So now I'm almost more excited. It feels like it's

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk to you about it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be just spectacular to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about it. It's fantastic. It's just it's a stunning achievement.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Remember, and of course you do. I'm

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Speaker 1: asking this. This is rhetorically when Modes like was a

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Speaker 1: him in this. So we started the offer. Have you

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Speaker 1: is it's the story a dramatic series. It is truly

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Speaker 1: the story of the making of the god the Godfather.

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Speaker 1: into Goodfellas, into Casino, the Intouchables was it was a big,

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Speaker 1: bigger heater then Francis Ford Coppola in the seventies three

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Speaker 1: was a first round pick a couple of years aging

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Speaker 1: to kill Harry from the Patriots for a seventh round pick,

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Speaker 1: or the fact that Bill Pelichick cannot draft skill position players.

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Speaker 1: He can't do it. If you look at the receivers

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Speaker 1: that they've drafted in the first or second rounds, it

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Speaker 1: really is wild. Now you did, okay, with tight ends,

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Speaker 1: obviously Gronk and then Aaron Hernandez before Murder. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: actually drafted some good running backs. He's done a good

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Speaker 1: job with their now Larry Moroney didn't pan out exactly

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Speaker 1: the way they would have wanted, but Ridley gave them

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Speaker 1: some nice season they had, but never a dude like

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle over, Nick Chubb, sure sugar, Shane Vereen was

436
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: solid for a while. Damien Harris was very nice for

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Speaker 1: them last year, but never right, never a defining guy

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Speaker 1: receiver wise. You know, here's a guy six twenty five,

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Speaker 1: looked a lot like DK Metcalf and yet in his

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Speaker 1: career fifty seven catches, five yards and a total of

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns. That's it. It's somebody who maybe can do

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Speaker 1: something for for for justin fields, but it wouldn't count

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Speaker 1: on it. There aren't a lot of examples of receivers

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Speaker 1: that were first round picks that kind of busted out

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Speaker 1: completely then going somewhere else and becoming good. There's just

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Speaker 1: mrs just It's just there's not a lot of precedent

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Speaker 1: for that. And typically the guy his size, you would say,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, why isn't it working. Then he can't separate,

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Speaker 1: and he's not maybe great and contested catch situations, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about some's average five point eight yards of target, folks,

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Speaker 1: That is not good. That is in fact, it's dreadful.

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Speaker 1: It's an awful number. Um. Now, he did a career

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Speaker 1: high eight point four last year. It gives them something else.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mooney's not a big guy. They lost Allen Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Gives them a bigger bodied receiver. I'm not optimistic. Now.

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Speaker 1: What's crazy to me is that people were saying how

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Speaker 1: incredible it was that they were able to get rid

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Speaker 1: of a first round pick, that a guy was a

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Speaker 1: first round pick and by the way, thirty second pick.

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Speaker 1: So the last pick up last round in two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and in four years all he could fetch was a

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Speaker 1: seventh rounder. I still think it's more shocking. And again

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Speaker 1: I would say wrong by the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 1: that the first pick in the draft, who plays the

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Speaker 1: most important position in football, who did take a team

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, who did win a playoff game with

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Speaker 1: that team, fetched a conditional fifth round pick. That to

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Speaker 1: me is way more insane than this guy getting a

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Speaker 1: seventh round pick. No, No, I think because of what

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Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday. Fine, it's just a different way

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Speaker 1: that they're viewing quarterbacks like they're just not they don't

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Speaker 1: want they don't want good. It still feels like a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, a third round pick, but you don't

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Speaker 1: want it. You don't want it. It's honestly, it's not

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Speaker 1: even a fifth because of it. Why did they think

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Speaker 1: a year ago, and I'll take the Panthers as the organization,

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Speaker 1: why did they think a year ago that Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: was better than Baker Mayfield? Well, because, well, I think

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Speaker 1: the reason you do that is is by the at

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Speaker 1: the time when you acquire Donald, you're saying, well, that's

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Speaker 1: just because he's with the Jets, and once we get

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Speaker 1: our hands on him, that's why that happens. And where bake.

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Speaker 1: You know, you had all of last year, so you

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Speaker 1: had two seasons of not great. Sure, so that's that's

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Speaker 1: I at your point, like, oh my god, a former

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Speaker 1: first rounder only seventh rounder, and now we talk about

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Speaker 1: the number one pick up the draft guy who plays quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and it's taking into the playoffs and one, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's the philosoph be around the position and

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Speaker 1: how it is and It speaks to also how brutal

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Speaker 1: the Bears situation is in all of this, that this

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Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, they got a starting receiver,

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Speaker 1: who guy who did all the things you just said,

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Speaker 1: or rather didn't do any of the things that he

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Speaker 1: was expected to do, And now he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: they hope can somehow salvage the position for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: So that that tells you a little bit of it.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing I've saw I've seen on this and

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Speaker 1: I will not pretend that I thought that the video

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Speaker 1: is funny initially until you totally and I still don't

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Speaker 1: even understand it. Have you seen that video of the

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Speaker 1: dad like one hand throwing his toddler into the pool.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this connor with the k Have you

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Speaker 1: seen this? What it's it's going around the Twitter? It's now.

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Speaker 1: The idea with this is is the kid has been

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Speaker 1: through some sort of swim training, eight weeks of swims.

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Speaker 1: Eight weeks of swim training. I would say from my

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Speaker 1: experience that being the father of three young of these

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Speaker 1: type of people, that my guess is this is about

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Speaker 1: eighteen months. Is my guests just about I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's do we know the age. It looks like

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Speaker 1: eighteen months to me or two years or just a little.

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Speaker 1: Is this recent or is it an old video I

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Speaker 1: saw yesterday. It's been in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Like throws him in from his legs and then the

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Speaker 1: kid flops in the pool and then turns to his

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Speaker 1: to his back and then he's able to breathe. What

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Speaker 1: like is it bad as it go? Like there's stuff

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Speaker 1: from two thousand fourteen that I see in Arizona where

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Speaker 1: somebody got arrested. Here it is, yep, that's it. You

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Speaker 1: gotta handle on it now, okay, proud father. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's so it's something like four weeks since we started

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Speaker 1: safety classes. My son graduated day officially water safe. Last class,

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Speaker 1: he get to go in with four layers of clothing,

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Speaker 1: including two diapers, more than doubling his weight, and water,

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Speaker 1: and he just like throws him in like you would

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Speaker 1: throw in a dog. I feel like there's another way

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Speaker 1: to get him into the water, as opposed to softly

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Speaker 1: dropping him in there or just let him jump in

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Speaker 1: off of let him jump in. Well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that he even right. I mean, I think he's he's

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Speaker 1: a young kid. He's a really young I mean's listened

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Speaker 1: to all right, let's at least turn it into like

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Speaker 1: a wrestling move given like a razor's edge or something

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Speaker 1: fun like that looks insane, He's yeah, it's like he's

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Speaker 1: grabbed a chicken by its lazies. It in. It's crazy anyway.

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Speaker 1: The the tweet that the kid is fine if you

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Speaker 1: get past the emotional scarring. Um. But the thing, the

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Speaker 1: funny thing I was was, this is the equivalent of

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Speaker 1: what the Bears did to Justin Fields in Cleveland. Was

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Speaker 1: that's a good way to bring it full circle. It

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00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: was a good way to bring it all the way around.

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00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs tackle Orlando Brown Junior. Not close to an extension

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, plans on holding out for some, if

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Speaker 1: not all, of the preseason. We do a thing on

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Speaker 1: another thing that I do or you go thing or

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00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: not a thing, not a thing, not a thing, no,

548
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: not a thing. Um. Also also a lot not a thing.

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00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell makes it official he won't be playing

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00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL this season. He shifts to focus on boxing. Well,

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: nobody wants you either hold on. You've tried it a lot.

552
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: This is a thing not about foot all but am

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Speaker 1: I isn't he fighting Adrian Peterson? I think that is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is it. I think it's for the Logan Paul fight.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like an undercard Juan Bell against Adrian

556
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Speaker 1: and I think Adrian Peterson is gonna absolutely annihilate him,

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Speaker 1: I would think. But you know, he's quite a bit

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Speaker 1: younger than Peterson, isn't he maybe like ten years? I

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Speaker 1: would say so to seven years at least. Here we

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Speaker 1: go Adrian Peterson Peterson thirty seven. Now this I would

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Speaker 1: not have had height both six one wait Bell to

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Speaker 1: Peterson to seventeen. Yeah, I mean that's I covered Levan

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Speaker 1: Bell in high school. He's from Columbus. Bell two time

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Speaker 1: first team All Pro, three time Pro Bowler, Peterson, four

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Speaker 1: time first Seamail Pro, seven time Pro Bowler, NFL m

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Speaker 1: v P and Offense Player of the Year. There are

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Speaker 1: a few people who's I mean his Bright comment Levy

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Speaker 1: on Bell's comment two years where he was like the

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Speaker 1: best back in football and was the best fantasy player

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: and the best everything too. Yeah, I'm not gonna play

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00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: and then gone all the off field stuff, says Bright.

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Speaker 1: It's an up and out kind of like Priest Holmes

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Speaker 1: Priest Holmes for a couple of years was but felt

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Speaker 1: like Priests wasn't of his own doing. No, it's just

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Speaker 1: this is just all of this was levy On Bell's

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Speaker 1: own doing. So here's a little note though, So bell

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Speaker 1: boxing has long been a passion for levy On Bell

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Speaker 1: used the sport his cardio during his time with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It grew during his year away football in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eighteen. Um, So he's been doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: boxing training. Is there do we know about Adrian Peterson

582
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: doing boxing training? I mean, I just don't like betting

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Speaker 1: against Adrian Peterson Levyan Bell. Maybe levy On Bell is

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Speaker 1: gonna just come in here and knock him out. That

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00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: would be that would be an noteworthy outcome to me.

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00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Let me give you a scenario. What about Prime Bell

587
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Speaker 1: versus Prime Peterson? Who would win? Like on the field

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Speaker 1: or in the fight or just on the field, Like

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Speaker 1: for are you doing hypothetically? It's hard for me to

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Speaker 1: imagine anyone physically more imposing than Adrian Peterson. But I

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Speaker 1: also don't know if he can box, you know, like

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Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the wire, like is he

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Speaker 1: at cutties getting some work in or is he not?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Leavyan Bell might have been getting some

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Speaker 1: work in true does he know how to throw the hands?

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Speaker 1: You gotta know how to do it? You gotta know

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Speaker 1: how to do it, and I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if he does on that front, I will

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Speaker 1: not be watching that. I will not What do you

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Speaker 1: got so I started with the Tale of Maverick. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we're told I just get text from Martin as

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Speaker 1: we're on the Cupcape Wars has moved to tomorrow because

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Speaker 1: of the rain. So now we're gotta go try and

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Speaker 1: go back to day because tomorrow the rain. What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with the rain's going to rain? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: It's gonna rain. I don't know. Why is it so

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Speaker 1: hard to see a film? You're trying to get too

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Speaker 1: many people involved. That's the problem. You're trying to You're

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00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 1: trying to feed too many mouths here. This is what

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Speaker 1: you need to do. You just need to go see

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Speaker 1: it today or tomorrow. Let's just say unfortunately, we'll take

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Speaker 1: you guys another time, take the kids another time. But now,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, you're probably more jack to see it

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Speaker 1: than they are. Anyway, we can do it today now,

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Speaker 1: but now we've got to. It's just I don't sense

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Speaker 1: that there's any rain of significance. Listen, she doesn't control

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Speaker 1: the cupcake. Worse, she's just a part of the I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that is neither. All right, what

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Speaker 1: you do know about is a running back position group preview,

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Speaker 1: and we will do that coming up next. You will

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Speaker 1: still clean the Browns daily in Cleveland. Cleveland Browns to

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Speaker 1: s NA training. Oh my god, you said earlier, you

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Speaker 1: said you're you're excited for I'm yeah, I'm not yet.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for it. You know, we're waiting on

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Speaker 1: something because it is kind of a well yeah that,

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Speaker 1: but even that aside, it does feel like once that happens,

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Speaker 1: summer's over. Once that happens where it's fall. And I

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Speaker 1: know it's crazy because it's like late July, but it

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Speaker 1: does feel like summer's over. Go ahead, real quick. Jack

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Speaker 1: of Hearts Rotea said, maybe Spielberg from sent to eighty

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Speaker 1: five he had Jaws, close encounters, Raiders of the Lost

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Speaker 1: dark Et, Poultergeist, Indiana Jones to the Color per pulling

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Speaker 1: Gooney's thirty eight Oscar Noms So thirty it's significantly more films. Well,

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Speaker 1: just instead, don't don't go for such a long period

635
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Speaker 1: of time. What did he start with? Jaws? So go?

636
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Jaws et Indiana Jones is pretty good too. Yeah, but

637
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not it's not like it's not

638
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: to film a consequence, although the time that I was fun,

639
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I watched them see it a lot, but it's no,

640
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, the Indian, Indiana, Jones et Jaws, those

641
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: three would be in the realm of of that. It's

642
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: a good job out of him. Um all right. Training camp,

643
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: position preview running back were loaded. Lots of names among those,

644
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Dernest Johnson, Demitric Felton, John Kelly,

645
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: and Jerome Ford. Johnny Stanton is in this room as well.

646
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: The first question from Gibbey fact or fiction? The running

647
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: back room is the biggest position of strength in the

648
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Brown's offense. The running back room. That is a fact.

649
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: It is the biggest position of strength on the Brownze offense.

650
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: I will also go so far as to say that

651
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: it is the best single position group on any team

652
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: in the league. Period end fiend, end of story. It

653
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: is the best position group in the National Football League period,

654
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: such a bold statement, like I feel like I need

655
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: to pull up and is it. I feel like it's well,

656
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: I mean I think of like the Bagels receiver rooms

657
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, but you're supposed to try to think

658
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, Like I wasn't prepared

659
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: for you to go so bold right into the gates,

660
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I want to look at the

661
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: teams and see if anything comes to mind me that's stronger.

662
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Okay, you're supposed to have three receivers

663
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL, now right, you have three starters. You

664
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: have one starting running back. If you're starting running back

665
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: goes down. Or let's say you lost Jamaar Chase. So

666
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: if the Browns lose Nick Chob, Karnim Hunts your starter.

667
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: If they lost Chase and Pagans, then they're starting Boyd

668
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: and who true. The only thing that I think that

669
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: the one thing you do have to say about about

670
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Kareem is, I mean he was hurt a lot last year.

671
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: So like, as long as we've had Chubb and Hunt,

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: they haven't played that much together both healthy. In the

673
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: one year they did, they became only the fourth running

674
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: back came in the history of the league, they have

675
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: more than twelve hundred total yards and twelve touchdowns in

676
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: the same season, including yeah, the postseason. We just don't know.

677
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: That's the only problem is they just don't that the

678
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: health hasn't been there as much as we would have

679
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: liked it. So that's it. I'm trying to think of

680
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: throw one more thing for you, alright, So then you

681
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: lose Nick Chubb, then you lose Kareem Hunt. So that

682
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of the top four receivers in

683
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati going down, right, if you're using them as an example.

684
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: Then we come to d Earnest Johnson. D Ernest Johnson

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: last year hundred carries, five and thirty four yards, three

686
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: touchdowns in two starts, one against Denver, one against New England.

687
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: Two d forty five yards rushing six yards to carry,

688
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: nine catches eight yards, three total yards, one touchdown. He

689
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: was the FedEx Ground Player of the Week and Thursday

690
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: Night Football against the Denver Broncos. He had PFFS highest

691
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: running grade of the season last year six and he's

692
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: our third running back. It's also strange because of the

693
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: position that it is. It's a position that around the

694
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: league is not valued, and we have an abundance of

695
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: wealth at it in a in a front office that

696
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: is analytically driven. Position value versus versus what we're paying

697
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: people versus what it's worth. All of that. It's a

698
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: it's a wild predicament. It's a wonderful predicament, but it's

699
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: there's too many And now you had Jerome Ford and

700
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: the guy who's good at Cincinnati, like and Demitric feltons.

701
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: It can say a lot of things, like it's an

702
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: abundance of riches at a position that you wouldn't think

703
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: you'd have an abundance of riches of or you would

704
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: even need. Here's what I would say. You can make

705
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: a legitimate argument that we have the best starting running

706
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: back in the NFL. Yes, fact you, I don't think

707
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: there is an argument as to whether or not we

708
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: have the best one two running back group in the NFL, certainly,

709
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's an argument that we have

710
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: the best one to three running back group in the NFL.

711
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know prom with any of that. So there

712
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, it's just the value of the position

713
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: versus receiver is kind of the only thing I think

714
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: that's the only tricky part of it. I went through them,

715
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know that there is. I mean, there's

716
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: several receiving rooms that are really good, Like Miami's receiving

717
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: room is really good, Denver's is pretty good, the Bengals

718
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: is really good, Minnesota's is pretty good. Like there's a

719
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: few of those receiver rooms out there. I just went

720
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: offense right away. I was trying anything defensively. Is there

721
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: anything that I'm missing defensively from Is there a d

722
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: line room that's that would be better or a corner room.

723
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, our secondary is one of the best. Probably not,

724
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: It probably isn't. I mean, it probably is. I mean

725
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: you said it felt bold and then I caught me

726
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: off guard. But as I just kind of go through

727
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: the league, it's it's probably a true statement. I think

728
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, here's some of the facts for you.

729
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb last year fourteen games to a hundred fifty

730
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: nine yards, five and a half yards to carry, eight touchdowns,

731
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: second in the league in yards, third in yards per carry,

732
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: second in yards after contact, second in yards after contact

733
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: per attempt, second with forty one runs of ten yards

734
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: or more. Named of the Pro Bowl for the third

735
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: straight season, first Brownze running back to do so since

736
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Leroy Kelly and sixty seven to seventy two. Jim Brown

737
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: the only other Browns running back to be named the

738
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl three straight years, three straight thousand yards seasons,

739
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: averaging seventy three yards and nine point three rushing touchdowns

740
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: per season, never below five yards per carry or eight

741
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns in a season, and and doing that while

742
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: never getting the workload of a Dalvin Cook, of a

743
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, of a Derrick Henry. So that's impressed me. Hunt.

744
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: Last year, you mentioned him first six games before he

745
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: got injured against Arizona three d sixty one yards rushing,

746
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, a hundred and sixty one yards receiving, So

747
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: five total yards and five touchdowns in the first six games.

748
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: So basically eighty five total yards and a touchdown a game.

749
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: As a compliment to Nick Chubb, his his injury was crippling. Yeah,

750
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: his seventeen game pace if he took what he did

751
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: in eight games, his seventeen game pace last year was

752
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: twelve total yards and eleven touchdowns. Yeah, Hunt. Yeah, Then

753
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: you go to dearness, I mentioned what he did. Guy

754
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: ran for five hundred yards five point three a carry,

755
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: So we had four point nine yards per carry for

756
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: a Hunt, five point five for Chub, five point three

757
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: for Deerness Johnson, as I mentioned in the two starts,

758
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: what he did, and then now you add to the mix,

759
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: he had Jerome Ford. Ford last year start Cincinnati ninteen

760
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: yards rushing at nineteen rushing touchdowns six point one yards

761
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: care These are college numbers, but the nineteen tied the

762
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: school record. They're uh fast and explosive with power, has

763
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: good skills catching because he was at such and this

764
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: is this is still one of the things that's so

765
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: hard for me to get my head around. Jerome Ford

766
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: was so good in high school that he was recruited

767
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: by Nick Saban, who landed a helicopter at his field

768
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: to bring him to Alabama as a running back. But

769
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: his high school running back room was so good he

770
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: played receiver. Yeah, like that's crazy to me. So you've

771
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: got him also in the mix. John Kelly, who was

772
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: in four games this year, two carries for thirteen yards.

773
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: Former sixth round pick of the of the Rams, who's

774
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: been with the Browns on the practice squad for the

775
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: majority of the last two seasons. The metric Felton, is

776
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: he a running back? I don't know. It looked like

777
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: they moved him pretty full time to receiver and O

778
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: T A s and into mini camps, So that sums

779
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: after he was just going to be a running back before.

780
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: That's what they just said. And then I think, listen,

781
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: this is what I think. This is not scores in terms,

782
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: this was told to me. This is just me looking

783
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: at and saying, Okay, Nick Chubb, kream Hunt, Jurnas Johnson,

784
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: m Jerome Ford is as good as advertised and and

785
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: a pure running back like d Metrick, Felton is gonna

786
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: make this team. He's gonna have to make it as

787
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: a receiver or with because of his versatility. Like I

788
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's a locky makes team, and I think

789
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: it would be much harder for him to make they're

790
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: not carrying five running backs. Then it would be for

791
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: him to try to make it as a receiver and

792
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: special teams guy. Then you got Stanton at the fullback.

793
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: He's your only full back, but he's really spent a

794
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: lot of time at tight end this offseason and I

795
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: think that you know, he can make it as the

796
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: fourth tight end. Slash the fullback, which is a good

797
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: spot for him. Yeah, and he's a very talented guy

798
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: and kind of a Swiss army knife, so he's I

799
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: think obviously a very good player. But this is this

800
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: room is absolutely loaded and I think you know it's

801
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: a factor fish and which is funny. Please read the

802
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: factor fiction s right Factory fiction from Gibb A. Dr Z.

803
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: The only question about this room is how many running

804
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: backs end up on the fifty three man roster. So

805
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: the question is a question like I am I So

806
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: to me, what he's saying is the thing that I'm

807
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: saying factor fiction about that? The only question saying the

808
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: factor fiction is the only question is how many make

809
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: the roster? I say fiction. I think there are a

810
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of questions. How do we see more of Kareem

811
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Hunt and Nick Chubb together this year? We have no

812
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: idea what this will look like with DeShawn Watson, correct,

813
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: So I think there are a lot of questions. So

814
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: it's actually despite how many they have, I think there's

815
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: how it's been used in the past. We have no idea.

816
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: We we have a little idea because we saw O

817
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: T A S. But my guess, as we spend a

818
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: lot more time in the gun. I think we're I

819
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: mean predominantly would be my guests. I think you're gonna

820
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: you could have instances where both of these guys stand

821
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: next to Shawn Watson and and they're both in there,

822
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: whether it's Kareem and Nick, or it's Nick and the

823
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: Earnest or whatever like you you want your best eleven

824
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: football players on the field, and Watson's ability to run,

825
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: it's a game changer for these guys. It's an absolute

826
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: game changer. Understand that what Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt

827
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: and Earnest have done historically here, especially the last couple

828
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: of years, has been done so last year especially, was

829
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: done so with eight or nine man boxes on the rag.

830
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: As Kenny Powers would say, that's done man, Yes, when

831
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: number four is back there, that's done. So now all

832
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, not only forget how well he throws

833
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: the ball and how he'll be able to throw it

834
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: to the entire part of the field. Of course, he

835
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: can now also fake the handoff boot and run RPOs.

836
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: You could do they had. We've seen some things already

837
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: in camp where it's a fake inside r P O

838
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: and then he runs out, and then Kareem had come

839
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: from the other slot, running kind of an option with them,

840
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: like a triple option with Watson, Kareem and Nick Chubb.

841
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that they're able to

842
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: do with these guys, and I think that is that's

843
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: what to me. How do they get used? That's a

844
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: big question. I think four will make the team. I

845
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: think Chubb, Hunt Johnson and Jerome Ford the other question.

846
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: And I would say, is there another question? The other

847
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: question does a trade come out of this room? Well,

848
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: it would be the room to have one if there's

849
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: an injury at the position. I mean, you think about um,

850
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: was it cam Akers last year at the beginning of

851
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: the year for the Rams who got hurt and then

852
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: you know you're like, wow, we're contenders. We've got to

853
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: have somebody here who can do this. You know, that's

854
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: that's where those type of things happen. You Also, isn't

855
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the isn't One of the big topics through this offseason

856
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: has been Kareem with the extension and wanting and wanting

857
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: one and what what all that is? And so there

858
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks to this and it's

859
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: despite all of the known talent. There's a lot of

860
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: unknowns in terms of what this is going to look

861
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: like by the time we get to September. Could not

862
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: agree anymore. A lot of unknowns, but I want to

863
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: just throw this out there real quickly. We're talking about

864
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. Just to give some perspective for Nick Chubb.

865
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: Two thousand nineteen, Nick Chubb two rushes. That was the

866
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: most that he's had in a season. He averages for

867
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: his career two hundred and twenty seven carries per season,

868
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, ten sixty seven. Okay, Derrick Henry,

869
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: just to give people some idea of what what we're

870
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: talking about here. And last year, by the way, when

871
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: you're second league rushing at two hundred and twenty eight carries,

872
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Henry got hurt last year. We know that before that though,

873
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: the two years before he got hurt. So Derrick Henry,

874
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: this is a great perspective Derrick Henry and two thousand nineteen,

875
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: three hundred and three carries. Derrick Henry two thousand and twenty,

876
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: by the way, he ran for two thousand and twenty

877
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: seven yards that year, three hundred seventy eight carries last

878
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: here in eight games. Okay, Nick Chubb and Nick Chubb

879
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: in fourteen games had two hundred and twenty eight carries

880
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: last year. How many do you think Derrick Henry had

881
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: an eight games? Feels like a reasonable guest two nineteen

882
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and nineteen carries in eight games. By the way,

883
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb nine, Derrick Henry two nineteen carries in that season.

884
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm going back to nikkil Harry. Give me Derrick Henry

885
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: my friend here in Pro Football Reference two nineteen for

886
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Yeah, I mean, I think you know, big

887
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: picture when there's a couple of things here, like, it's

888
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: very much in play that Nick Chubb could have eighteen

889
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards this year if he ever gets a season

890
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: where he gets a full healthy season with two h

891
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: seventy carries with this not facing eight nine man fronts,

892
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: the type of lanes he's going to be able to

893
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: run through. Oh, it's all in play, it's absolutely all.

894
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Here's another one. Jonathan Taylor last year leads the NFL

895
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: in rushing eighteen hundred eleven year. It's five and a

896
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: half yards cary, same as chubet two carries a hundred

897
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: more so, number one, he's not taken those monster seasons

898
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: that tend to lead to a breaking point. Now he

899
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: has missed sometime you know last year that that missed

900
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: the four games. However, however, he's never gotten that type

901
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: of a workload. And I'm curious. The other guy who

902
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: I think is kind of in that level is Dalvin

903
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: as a runner. Albat Camaro has been one of the

904
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: great weapons in the league. Even Dalvin fourteen games to fifty,

905
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: fourteen games, three thirteen games to fifty, So he's out

906
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: carried Nick Chubb as well. Oh yeah, Nick has never

907
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: been here's the ball go thirty two carries like that's

908
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: never been. Now that prolongs his career, hopefully, is what

909
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: we want is so that this can last for a

910
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: long time with him playing at this level. Um, so

911
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: we'll keep And by the way, you have videos posting

912
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: now in terms of corroborating this and with the collaborating

913
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: with this in the sense of the position previous up

914
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: as well, so that that I just saw that drop

915
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: here in the last little bit so forward to which

916
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: is very very nice, very nice coming up at the

917
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: top of the hour. As good a use of Instagram

918
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: as I've ever seen from Zack Wilson. I'll tell you

919
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: what he put he posted, he's spoken. We'll get to that,

920
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: among other things here in the final otura. Listically, the

921
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily

922
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925
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, Jets quarterback. The location is Gaza Ranch, Idaho, YEP.

926
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Quarterly in Idaho. Here's the post. Took the boys to

927
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: go to the Ranch club in Idaho before camp. Poor

928
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: cell service. What I miss isn't what's the what's the picture?

929
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: It's him slinging it. They gotta they gotta field there,

930
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: they've all they got a field striped out. He's got

931
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of his Jets buddies there. I mean, they're

932
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: frolicking in the lake. What I miss? What I miss?

933
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: I mean we're doing some we're doing something. We gotta

934
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: we gotta ski boat. So we've got some sort of

935
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: h The wake boarding is happening. We've got fire pits outside.

936
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: There's hugs and embraces of course. There. I'm gonna tell

937
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: you what I mean it's it's a lot of people

938
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: like to go west. Um in the lot of people like,

939
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: we'll go to out there to ski. No, I mean,

940
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: skiing is great, but summer out west is where it's at.

941
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: You're talking about warm days, You're talking about lakes and

942
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: cool chrisp nights. The delight, it's a delight. There's not

943
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: a look at this. Is there a cloud in Quarterlaine, Idaho?

944
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: That looks beautiful? What if they're gonna go golf on

945
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: the they did? They did? Did they play it on that? Yeah?

946
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: Sure it was. Yeah, I don't know if they did that.

947
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: But that this looks like this place. It's probably all inclusive.

948
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: It's probably like the place in Montana, that Yellowstone Club

949
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: where everybody just goes in and has a has a

950
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: great time, has a great time, and they're left alone. Yeah,

951
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: that's the way that that goes. Um, all right, let

952
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: me see what does Gibby have here for us. He's

953
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: got a top ten running backs is voted by NFL

954
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: executives and coaches. It's got It's got Nick Chubb number

955
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: three on this list. Um Derrick Henry was one, Jonathan

956
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: Taylor was too. There's no way Derrick Henry is a

957
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: better running back than Nick Chubb right now, He's been

958
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: on believable. But I do feel like it's over, yes,

959
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I'm not ready to write him off yet.

960
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: But I mean, when you when you when you've got

961
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: a two thousand yard season under your belt in history

962
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: two years ago, he was oh yeah completely. I am

963
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: surprised though, that Kareem doesn't even make it in the

964
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: honorable mention category. I just think it's just the injuries.

965
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: It's the injuries that well, he is one a year

966
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: of being injured, but it's the injuries. It's the it's

967
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: the you know, the time that was missed. It's it's

968
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: been a while since he was the leading rusher in

969
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: the National Football League. That I understand. But I still

970
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: think Kareem Hunt in a lot of places and if

971
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: he was in a place where he was the guy,

972
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: I do think Kareem Hunt has an absolute opportunity to

973
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: be a top ten running back in the league. I mean,

974
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you looked at the numbers that he put up in

975
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: tandem with Nick Chubby was everying when I say eight

976
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: five total yards and a touchdown per game through the

977
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: first six Yeah, it's pretty remarkable when you when you look.

978
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: So first of all, if without look, I'm sure you

979
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: have it up, so you probably know. But would you

980
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: have known that Kareem Hunt is what his ages? I

981
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: don't have it up. My guess is off the top

982
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: of my head. As he was a rookie and two

983
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen is that when he led the league

984
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: in rushing, So seven which is pretty young, very young,

985
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: which is still very very young that he's now. He'll

986
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: turn twenty seven in this season, but he's so he's

987
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: still very very young. So you were doing the carries thing, right,

988
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: So you want to talk about shread on the tire

989
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: um Kareem Hunt two seventy two carries when he led

990
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: the league in rushing as a rookie in Kansas City,

991
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: thirty seven per game that season, almost five yards an attempt.

992
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: He added another four fifty five through the air, so

993
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: it's eighteen hundred yards another it's eight point six a reception. Uh.

994
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: The second season in Kansas City before this suspension, he's

995
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: eight twenty four and seven touchdowns. You see the game

996
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: against the Browns. I remember that game quite well. The

997
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week fourteen yards of reception in

998
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: the through the air three seventy eight through the air

999
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: that year. UM. Then the shortened season for US where

1000
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: he plays half the season, plays eight games UM in

1001
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, which is just a debacle of a

1002
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: season across the board. But then in two thousand twenty

1003
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: year one with Stefanski he plays all sixteen games. He

1004
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: starts five eight forty one four yards to carry. It's

1005
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: another three oh four through the air. He's got five

1006
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns through the air. He's got another what's again on

1007
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: the ground here six eleven touchdowns on the split carries

1008
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: with with Nick Chubb, the numbers of carries is remarkable

1009
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: to me when you think about it. You're going through

1010
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: those numbers to seventy two, forty three, seventy eight, I

1011
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: mean his last three seasons thirty his last three seasons,

1012
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: he's got less carries and Derrick Henry has on the

1013
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: rig in one year. Yeah. Also you've got young, explosive, healthy.

1014
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous that he didn't even make it

1015
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: in the receiving votes or honorable mentioned category because I

1016
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: think that he is that good. UM, it's an interesting

1017
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: top ten list. Did you look at it. I think

1018
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: we can all agree on the top five in whatever

1019
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: order you can. I would be obviously for Nick Choppire,

1020
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: but Henry, Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara. Six,

1021
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon and Joe Mixon is incredibly solid. Uh. He

1022
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: can run, he can catch, you can do it all.

1023
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Seven Christian McCaffrey, who would be probably in the top

1024
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: five were it not for his injuries. Right, he hasn't

1025
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: played really in two seasons. Naj Harris number eight, and

1026
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: he was such an accumulator. We talked about that. I

1027
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see. He had three seven carries, seventy

1028
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: four catches, uh three and seven carries for twelve yards rushing.

1029
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: We'll see if that offense changes. And it was a

1030
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: hard I had a ton of respect for him, I do.

1031
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: He ran very hard, very hard. He caught everything. He

1032
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: took a beating, took a beating. Aaron Jones that has

1033
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: at number nine, Uh, and yes, he's quite good. Number

1034
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: ten on this, How about this? Javante Williams on the list.

1035
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: That is my guy and I hoped I expect him

1036
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: to become a real star this year. But he is

1037
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: an incredibly talented runner, incredibly talented, but they brought Melvin

1038
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: Gordon back. I don't love that. I'm guessing tomorrow we'll

1039
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: do the ten best receivers because I see that that

1040
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: is up there today on on ESPN S. We'll get

1041
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: to that tomorrow on the program. But in terms of um,

1042
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: all right, so what's your biggest beef? I think I

1043
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: understand the respect for Henry, but it feels like the

1044
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: time is is about out. Yeah, I'm surprised that they

1045
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: didn't go with Taylor one based on what he did

1046
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: last year, right, I mean you go in there and

1047
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: and there was a while where he was just a

1048
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: complete one man wrecking crew. He had five runs of

1049
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: more than forty yards. No other back had more than two.

1050
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Uh he is he was incredibly explosive, incredibly explosive. And

1051
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: then there's Nick I think, and Dalvin cook Is is

1052
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: elite every single year, and so I think those guys

1053
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: are that's it. That's the group to me, that's even

1054
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: the group. Camara is such an excellent all purpose back

1055
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: struggle last year he was hurt. I think he's a

1056
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: total stud. But right now and he has a chance

1057
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: to get back in that top five obviously McCaffrey does

1058
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: if he's healthy as well. But in terms of just

1059
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: straight up runners Henry, Taylor, Chubb and Cook, aren't that's

1060
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: as good as it gets in the league, do you. Um,

1061
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: let's let's and I know this will be kind of

1062
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: fun because this this this normally guests the status you

1063
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: just nail the stats. But I would I'm gonna play

1064
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: a guest of status for you on Jonathan Taylor, and

1065
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in respect to his college career at Wisconsin. Okay,

1066
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: So he played three seasons at Wisconsin, played fourteen games,

1067
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: thirteen games, fourteen games. What is the fewest amount of

1068
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: rushing yards he rushed for in those three years? Fewest amount?

1069
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: He was always the starter. He was the starter from

1070
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: the freshman on the fewest amount of rushing yards he

1071
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: rushed for in those three years. I remember we did

1072
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: something like this and it was crazy. So, Mike, I'm

1073
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna say seventeen hundred and fifty, nineteen seventy seven. So

1074
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: it's freshman year, he's nineteen seventy seven. His sophomore year,

1075
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: he's twenty one, a couple of two thousands. His junior year,

1076
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: his he's two thousand and thirteen now four Some more

1077
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: perspective on Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin. The all time rushing leader

1078
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: in n C Double A history is Ron Dane, Wisconsin,

1079
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: also Wisconsin. His total yards in four seasons at Wisconsin

1080
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: seven thousand one, Jonathan Taylor was a thousand yards less

1081
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: than Dane without a full season play. Had he just

1082
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: played his normal season, he would have outdone Day by

1083
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. He is currently, Jonathan Taylor is sixth

1084
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: all time in n C Double A rushing yards despite

1085
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: only playing three seas, so he's rushed for eighteen hundred

1086
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: or more yards and four out of his last five

1087
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: years playing football, three in college and two that's pretty well.

1088
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That is pretty good. It's probably the

1089
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: quietest three straight pretty much two thousand yards seasons in college. Ever, Like,

1090
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: it's stunning that it wasn't like I paid attention to

1091
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: because he was in the Big Ten. But I don't

1092
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: know if you played guests his stance with somebody who

1093
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't follow Big ten football at that time, if you

1094
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: have any point of reference. I didn't, and I you

1095
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: know my but I knew that it was astronaut. I

1096
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: knew he had two seasons over two thousand. I didn't

1097
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: know what the last one was, so why that's why

1098
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: I went seventeen fifty? Should have gotten even more ambitious. Yeah,

1099
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: it was quite. It was quite. The top three Ron Day,

1100
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams, Tony Dorset. Wow, that's how that went. Um,

1101
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: that's incredible. Did just give me a comparison? Because he

1102
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: goes in the Taylor goes in the second round if

1103
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah, I think you have that

1104
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: right early in the second round to Indianapolis. Um, it's crazy.

1105
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: Highest he ever was in the high he was forty

1106
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: first overall, You're right, highest he was ever in the

1107
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: Heisman was fifth. So what what were Melvin Gordon stats?

1108
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: For comparison? Sake? Who was it? I remember the hype

1109
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: on Melvin Gordon around him at Wisconsin was way higher

1110
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: than that of John and Taylor and he went in

1111
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: the first round. Well, the the senior year for Melvin

1112
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: Gordon is the reason why. So he ran for seven

1113
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: his senior year at Wisconsin and had twenty nine rushing touchdowns.

1114
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: So the game when the Buckeyes, I want to say,

1115
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: beat Melvin Gordon and the Badgers, and I don't know

1116
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: if it's a Big ten championship was the championship game.

1117
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: J Bear was hurt in the Michigan game. Cardale Jones

1118
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: was making his first ever start. Your uncle Bow was

1119
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: on the field, um and they how Stomachus. There used

1120
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: to be a Paninis at the intersection of Psalm and

1121
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Sullen Road where they have tried so many restaurants in

1122
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: from that time on, and now chick Fili's killing it there,

1123
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: but they're still an empty restaurant that was there. S

1124
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: doesn't drink often. S was asked to leave. Oh no pans.

1125
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Ohio State beat them fifty nine and nothing. Yeah,

1126
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: I remember it being a complete blow. Streaming at the screen,

1127
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: screaming at people, screaming at patrons, a few Christmas sales.

1128
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: I had to take him back. What year was that? Two?

1129
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: It probably, I mean, it probably costs Taylor the Heisman,

1130
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Gordon Melvin Gordon the Heisman. Well, Mariota won it that year,

1131
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: so it would have been I mean, he was a

1132
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: finalist nine touchdowns, like if they had beat an Ohio State,

1133
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: but they lost fifty nine to nothing, and everybody just

1134
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: it was none of it happened wild. Yeah, it was

1135
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: by the most indelible image when I think of that

1136
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: game was walking around so that the teams stayed at

1137
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: the JW. Marriott in Indy, which you're quite familiar with,

1138
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: you and I are familiar with from the Combine days.

1139
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: And I came down to the lobby and Cardale Jones

1140
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: was walking around the lobby in a very ill fitted

1141
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: suit because he was the third string quarterback. Like nobody

1142
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: thought card No one could pick Cardal Jones out of

1143
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: a lineup. And this was proven in that he was

1144
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: walking around in this suit anonymously Buckeye fans everywhere. Nobody

1145
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: even knew what he looked like. He was most famous

1146
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: for a tweets. Most famous, right, didn't come here to

1147
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: play school. That's the tweet. Okay, remember that third string quarterback?

1148
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: So he goes on he leads them to the national champion.

1149
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: That's correct. That off season. The talk I remember wh

1150
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: there was Tank for two was fail for Cardinal around here?

1151
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: Especially Were you at all after watching him and then

1152
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: obviously the next season when things did not go as well? Clearly,

1153
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: but did you? Were you at all surprised that he

1154
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: had a nothing NFL career? No? No, he is he

1155
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: came here, he was going to commit, he was gonna

1156
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: go pro. He was at Glendale, he was doing his

1157
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: announcement at Glendale. He was convinced to stay at Ohio

1158
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: State because Braxton Miller was coming back from injury and

1159
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: they didn't know what that was gonna look like, and

1160
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: they didn't know what was gonna happen. J T, Barrett

1161
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: Brex Miller was talking that he was going to transfer.

1162
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: So they turned Miller into a receiver. Then they have

1163
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Cardell compete with j T for the job after they

1164
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: convinced him to come back, and she just went pro.

1165
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: There stock was never gonna be higher than it was

1166
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: after those three games. He probably would have been a

1167
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: second round pick. He goes into the next year in

1168
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, all those guys are back, Thomas Elliott, Bosa,

1169
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: all those guys goes back and to them fifteen Urbans

1170
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: run an option with him. They're playing Virginia Tech. He's

1171
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: got Cardale Jones running read option. Let's up what he is?

1172
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: No No, So they end up going back to j T.

1173
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: And then it was done. It's outrageous. Oh, he costs

1174
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: him a lot of money. He did. I don't think

1175
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: you'd have been a good pro. No, but he hardless. No.

1176
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: But the time to strike was right then and any

1177
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: everybody knew it, and there was no reason for him

1178
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: to play another second at Ohio State, and everybody down

1179
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: there knew there was no chance that he would be

1180
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: the long term quarterback answer for as long as J. T.

1181
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: Barrett was on the roster, because Urban wanted a guy

1182
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: who'd put his nose in and run it. And that's

1183
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: that's how that happened, and he he paid the price

1184
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: for it certainly. Uh NFL dot coms Kevin Patrick predicts

1185
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: each team's non quarterback m v P. Will tell you

1186
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: who our guys are. You probably know there's the end.

1187
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:56,040
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1188
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1189
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1191
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,760
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1192
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: partakes each team's two thousand two non quarterback m v P.

1193
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: He has Nick Chubb as our m v P, not

1194
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: Miles Yeah. I think that that's in play. Like I

1195
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: think Nick could be eight yard rusher. I think he

1196
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: could be as well. I think we should score more

1197
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns than we have in the year's past, and and right,

1198
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: we need to get that clarity. And it sounds like

1199
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: now that clarity is going to come the week of July.

1200
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: Um who knows? Who knows? Man, just just give it

1201
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: to us. I'm we're ready, We're ready to find out,

1202
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: and we're ready to move on. But yeah, I think

1203
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: that that's in play. I mean, and I realized this

1204
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: is the non quarterback m v P. But if you're

1205
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: the Browns, you want to Shaun Watson to be your

1206
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: m v P. And if that's the case, we're gonna

1207
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: be in pretty good shape. Miles is on the list.

1208
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I think that Nick Chubb is on the list. I'll

1209
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: throw out one that I think is is a complete

1210
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: and total wild card m v P for you, And

1211
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: it's hard for it to be an m v P, right,

1212
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: I Mean, we've got so much talent on this football team,

1213
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: but I'll give a guy that I think is going

1214
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: to make such an ascent this season that it is

1215
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: going to be difficult to deny his importance and his

1216
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: stature around the National Football League. I'll give you two

1217
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: guesses as to who I'm talking about. Newsom good very

1218
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: much in the conversation, but that's not where I was going.

1219
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: I forgot I was I was looking for something to

1220
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: to butcher some of the argument as you're going through

1221
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: the same side of the ball though also Good. I'm

1222
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: saying Grant delpot I think Grant help it. I think

1223
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: I think Grant Delpitt is going to be he could burst.

1224
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: It's just there's so many stars, but I do think

1225
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: he has that opportunity. Here's why. Grant delput is playing

1226
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: one of the most important positions in football, as is

1227
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Greg Newsome, and I think JK is st That's what's

1228
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: so fun about this. So many guys that we could

1229
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: choose from all second year players. In my mind, by

1230
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: the way, even though it's delp It's third season technically,

1231
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: so I was doing some research on on Grant delpit

1232
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: and looking some things up about him because I noticed,

1233
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, as he started to click, and he's he's

1234
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: been a star of this offseason. You know, we are very,

1235
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have the relationship that we do with

1236
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: with Jeff Howard, and so we get a lot of

1237
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: insight to what's going on in that dB room. And

1238
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Lynch spends a lot of time the corners.

1239
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: He spends a lot of time with safeties. Grant Delpit

1240
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: he thinks is the most improved guy from last year

1241
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: till right now. He thinks he has a chance to

1242
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: be a megastar. I went I looked from week twelve

1243
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: on week twelve on Pro Football Focus grades among safeties.

1244
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: What do you think Grant Dell put ranked overall and

1245
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: in coverage from week twelve on last year Pro Football

1246
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: Focus overall grade at the safety position and in coverage,

1247
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: give it to me, give me, give me the number,

1248
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: give me the overall US third coverage safety in the

1249
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: NFL in the last from week twelve on last year,

1250
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: third overall and third so and and he wasn't. His

1251
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: best grades of the season all came from week twelve on.

1252
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: That's when it was like the light bulb went on.

1253
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: He started to play much better football. Gets an interception

1254
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: obviously against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens in that game.

1255
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be really special.

1256
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: Denzel Awards a name that you would put into this.

1257
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: J Ok, I think is an interesting name to put

1258
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: into this. I think David and Joku would be a

1259
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: name that you would throw into your hat in this

1260
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: in the sense that you know, he's a guy that

1261
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: if he gets a hundred targets this year, who say

1262
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: he can't have eight hundred, nine hundred thousand yards eight

1263
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns with Shawn Watson. Who's to say that that

1264
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: can't happen for him? So that's a name that becomes interesting.

1265
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's a name that becomes interesting. Katie York is

1266
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: a name that's very interesting because that's the one guy,

1267
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: the one newcomer who is guaranteed to be a massive

1268
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: improvement over his predecessor and could make a big difference

1269
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: in our wins and losses. Who's the last did Derrick

1270
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: Henry win m VP in in the year? Not last year,

1271
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: but like two years ago, a couple years ago. If

1272
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 1: he did, it would have been two years ago. Because

1273
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: and the one that we count is it's the eight

1274
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: most valuable player? Right is that? The one that he

1275
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: did not he was it's Aaron Rodgers and Rodgers went

1276
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: back to back, alright, So there was the offensive player

1277
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: of the year. Okay, do you have it up the

1278
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: we need Connor on the money. Do you want we

1279
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: get guess? I have it up MVP, But I want

1280
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: to know the last non quarterback to win m VP

1281
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: of the league. I believe it's Adrian Peterson, non quarterback

1282
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: on offense. I think it's Adrian Peterson. Is that not right?

1283
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: So there's a defensive player. When I was waiting for

1284
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Conner to give a guest before he answered, you, I

1285
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: know Adrian Peterson won it. I'm not sure that is correct.

1286
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: A P. What Adrian Peterson? Adrian Peterson won it in

1287
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve when he took them to the playoffs,

1288
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: So that was the last non quarterback to win m

1289
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: v P. The one before that, so that was two

1290
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: thousand twelve. La Danian won it in OH six. Sean

1291
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: Alexander won it in OH five, so he had a

1292
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: little stretch there. Then it's Falk in two thousands. So

1293
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: those are the non quarterback m vps since two thousand

1294
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame yet, um, I don't know

1295
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: if he is or not. He gets hurt. I think

1296
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: because he played in Seattle. He was the MVP in

1297
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: two thousand five, amazingly only a three time pro bowler,

1298
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: one time All Pro. He had a stretch though, where

1299
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: he ran four five straight years where he ran for

1300
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: eleven hundred and seventy five yards or more and in

1301
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: the in the other five it was eighteen, fourteen, thirty five,

1302
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: sixteen ninety six, and eighteen eighty and he had at

1303
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 1: least fourteen touchdowns in every one of those seasons, rushing fourteen, sixteen, fourteen,

1304
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: sixteen twenty seven. Yeah, he was a He was a

1305
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: fantasy beast monster. He should be I think you should

1306
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. That's a great five years.

1307
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: The last give me the last non offensive m v P,

1308
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. That is correct, six was the last. I

1309
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: was gonna guess him a Reggie White. Those are my

1310
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: only two guesses. The most absurd m VP of all

1311
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: time was Mark Moseley, the kicker one m v P

1312
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: of the NFL and the strikes shot, which is brutal. Um.

1313
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Did he have a shoe or did he? Was he

1314
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: a barefoot? He feels like barefooted, but I could be

1315
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: compared name with rich Carlos. Um. Here's your This is

1316
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: This is pretty interesting because in my head, if you

1317
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: were to ask me, like, how many m v p

1318
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: s did because you think about the great running back era,

1319
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: you know when we were kids. Walter Payton won one.

1320
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: He won the MVP in nineteen seventy seven. That's it.

1321
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: That's the list. Marcus Allen won at once. That would

1322
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: have been in nineteen eighty five Marcus Allen won the

1323
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: NFL MVP and eighty five the eighty five Bears, and

1324
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: they weren't even in the mix in the postseason, the

1325
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: Raider Patriots being at some point. But I don't remember.

1326
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all. Um. But anyway, Allan

1327
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: wins it in eighty five, and then it's Thurman Thomas

1328
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: wins one. In ninety one, only wins one. Emmett Smith

1329
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: only won one, and Barry Sanders won one. But it

1330
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety seven when Barry Sanders won the MVP,

1331
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: So that year not have had that. I would have

1332
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: thought it would been earlier. Eighty five they go twelve

1333
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: and four, win the a f C West. They lose

1334
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: in the divisional round of the playoffs to the Patriots

1335
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty. Marcus Mark Wilson was the starting

1336
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: quarterback that year. Marcus Allen goes three kerry seventeen fifty

1337
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: nine and eleven touchdowns added five five receiving two thousand,

1338
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: three hundred and fourteen scrimmage yards and fourteen touchdowns. How

1339
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: the heck did Eric Dickerson not win m v P

1340
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: the year he ran for run yards? What year is that?

1341
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: Dickerson runs for his best twenty one hundred and five

1342
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: yards fourteen touchdowns. Eric Dickerson ran for eighteen hundred or

1343
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: more yards and three of his four first four seasons

1344
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He is a five time

1345
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 1: first team All Pro, six time Pro Bowl, leve the

1346
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: league in rushing four times. Uh he was first team

1347
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: All Pro that year he was not the mv What's

1348
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: the year the Rams four? They go ten and six

1349
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: finished second in the NFC West. Their quarterback Jeff Kemp.

1350
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Kemp that year they go again ten and six.

1351
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Kemp nine and four is a starter, completes fifty

1352
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: of his passes for two thousand yards, thirteen touchdowns, and

1353
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: seven picks. Dickerson had more yards rushing than he had

1354
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 1: throwing the football. Dickerson had as many yards from scrimmage

1355
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: as they had passing the football as a team. Good lord.

1356
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: So the year that he could have won it is

1357
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: the year that Marino threw for five thousand yards and

1358
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdowns. It's a quarterback dominated league. I mean

1359
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: it always has been. Like you look at this m

1360
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: v P list, it's dominated by quarterbacks. There were more

1361
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: running backs in the eighties and the nineties. But now

1362
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: you said Peterson said two thousand and twelve. Uh huh,

1363
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: So you have Peter. In the two thousands, you had Peterson,

1364
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: Ladini in we've only had one in the teens. Folk,

1365
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: We've had one of the teens, only Peterson and the teens,

1366
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,440
Speaker 1: and in the two thousands we've had you had Tomlinson

1367
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: and O six, Alexander and oh five, and you had

1368
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: Falk in two thousand. So you had three of them

1369
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, and then the teams, we've only

1370
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: had Peterson since two thousand twelve. The nineties had Terrell

1371
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: Davis in ninety eight, Barry Sanders in nineties seven, Emmett

1372
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: Smith in ninety three, Thurman Thomas in one. So four

1373
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: of the ten in the nineties went to running back.

1374
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Steve Young with two m vps in that time. I

1375
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: would not for some reason only remember him having the

1376
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: one in the eighties. Marcus Allen won it in eighty five,

1377
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor and eighty six. Allen's the only running back

1378
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: winner in the eighties. Only Marcus Allen and Reggie White

1379
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: never won one, never won one. No, never did, never did.

1380
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: I would not have had Kenny Anderson so back to

1381
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: back years and eight and eighty one the MVP was

1382
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback of an Ohio team Sipe sat Anderson in

1383
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: eight and eighty one won it back to back in

1384
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: the tooth and give me the teens, the m v

1385
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: p s and the teens you've got to have at

1386
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: the Rogers in eleven, so Rogers and eleven, Peterson in twelve,

1387
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: Manning in thirteen, Rogers in fourteen, Newton in fifteen, Ryan

1388
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: in sixteen, Brady in seventeen, My Holmes in eighteen, Lamar

1389
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: and nineteen. Rodgers in two thoe and he won, won

1390
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: won two thousand seven. Brady has won two m vps.

1391
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: He wanted in two thousand seven fifty touchdowns with Random Moss,

1392
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: and then he wanted in two thousand and ten and

1393
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: then two thousand seventeen. He's won three MVPs. We want

1394
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: it in ten sev and oh seven are his three

1395
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: m vps. The three times Aaron Rodgers has more m

1396
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: vps than Tom Brady. Yeah, so not in as many rings, no,

1397
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: but that's it's such a strange thing, right, six because

1398
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: usually not mistaken, like Jordan's got the six m vps Russell,

1399
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: I think, or no, Kareem has six, five or six

1400
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: something like that. But like usually whoever is the most

1401
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: m vps is the best is the best player, right,

1402
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: like the the idea that Brady played for this twenty

1403
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: year period and two of his peers have more m

1404
01:14:52,320 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: vps than him. Manning and Rogers both have more. Payne's

1405
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: got five alright, so Bill Russell for Bill Russell had

1406
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: fifty eight sixty one, sixty two, sixty three sixty five,

1407
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: so he won five. Kareem one one two three four

1408
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: five six, Will won one two three four. Well, then

1409
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: it's Kareem and Jordan they both won six. Kareem and

1410
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: Jordan's f six and Lebrons only got four. I think

1411
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: Brian has four and hasn't won one since two thousand thirteen.

1412
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: He won nine twelve thirteen. Derrick Rose Sandwich in between

1413
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: a little joke. He didn't win one of the years

1414
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: he was back here on return. Do you know what's

1415
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: a joke? Kobe Bryant only having won, Steve Nash having two, Well,

1416
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: I'll give you a better one. The best argument for

1417
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: that is Kobe and Shack have as many combined as

1418
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: Nash has. Yeah, shock to Shack was the most dominant

1419
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: player in the NBA for eight years. He has one

1420
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: m v P. Kobe's got one, Nash has two. I

1421
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: mean they got the same amount of joker. Hold on

1422
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: a second, here's the difference though, Nash's number six. Alex

1423
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: short thumb. So Nash When's MVP in two thousand and

1424
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: five fifteen points three boards, eleven assists two thousand six

1425
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: eighteen points four boards. Tennisists like Yokich this year shoots

1426
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: fifty or last year fifty seven percent from the floor

1427
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: twenty six points eleven boards, eight assists, this year fifty

1428
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: eight percent from the floor twenty seven points, fourteen boards,

1429
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: eight assists. Like the numbers of Steve Nash are stick

1430
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb on you. He just that

1431
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: was that era, that that that Sun teams were so

1432
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: much fun. And I want to say what years were those.

1433
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: It was five and six. But I'm telling you, Okay,

1434
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: so he's the only person since they have stats available,

1435
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: which begins in seven. For some reason, I don't know

1436
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: why we know what Larry Bird average before that, but

1437
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess he's probably the only m v P

1438
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: in the history of the NBA to not have scored

1439
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: twenty points a game in the season in which he

1440
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: was named the m v P. He did it twice. Uh, yes,

1441
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: he had the double digit assists. But the other people

1442
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: who were m vps with double digit assists Russell Westbrook

1443
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: in two thousand, seventeen thirty two points eleven boards. Tennessis

1444
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: magic Johnson who won it. His won it three times,

1445
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: three times, twenty two and eleven and a half, twenty

1446
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: three and thirteen, twenty four and twelve. Like Steve Nash's

1447
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: numbers don't even it's crazy. They pass. They do not

1448
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: pass the test. And he only shot fifty percent from

1449
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: the floors, like he was out there shooting pent Like

1450
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: should Duncan have won one of those? I mean the

1451
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: Spurs were winning championships at that time. I mean Duncan

1452
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: wanted in O two and oh three with twenty five,

1453
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: six and thirteen, twenty three and thirteen, then Garnett at

1454
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: twenty four and fourteen. Then you have these two weird

1455
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: Nash years. Then No Wisky wins it at twenty five,

1456
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: nine and five, Kobe at eight, six and six. Kobe

1457
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: should have won the one Nash hear you average thirty

1458
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: five a game, ridiculous, The one Nash hear he average

1459
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: thirty five game where he scored the eighty five, the

1460
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: eighty one. Like those are fun teams, sure, great, good, wonderful.

1461
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: Those aren't m v P numbers. Those are barely all

1462
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: star numbers. Yeah, it was crazy, and I'm a big

1463
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: Nash guy, but that's same. Pretty crazy. He's the only

1464
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: person in the history of the Lead to win that

1465
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: not averaging double did not averaging twenty plus points a game,

1466
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: and he did twice. Yeah, it's wild. Also ridiculous. Lebron

1467
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: dosn't won another one. He should have won one in

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: that second stint with us. The MVPs of the second

1469
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: stint here were Staff twice, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden.

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01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: Those are the m v P s in those years,

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: So pretty wild. Alright, Open Championship is coming up tomorrow

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01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: at St. Andrew's. We will get to that coming up next.

1473
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,200
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01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: some of the uh, some of the reports out of St.

1487
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: Andrews in terms of the conditions of the course. No,

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: I just saw what I've seen weatherwise that it's effect

1489
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: to be fairly benign. So Deshambo hit a six iron

1490
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: three today because it is that it's that dry so

1491
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: it's like an airport runway. Now, I think some people

1492
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: think that that means that it will be easy to

1493
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: play for these guys. I think it's going to be

1494
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: very unpredictable for them to play. It's somebody who again

1495
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: I've played there. It is unparticularly because it when the

1496
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: balls on the ground for that long, there's a bunch

1497
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: of bumps and it could end up and it wants

1498
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: to ultimately flow into the bunkers. That's the natural curvature

1499
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: of the land. That's where it leads to. So no,

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01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: I think that that will make it very difficult because

1501
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: folks golf at the highest level, for these people, at

1502
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: these pro golfers, is quite simply about precision and the

1503
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: ability to control distance. It's distance control that allows you

1504
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: to get proximity close to the whole what allows which

1505
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: allows you to make more putts. Target golf when you

1506
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: can't control what the ball is going to do on

1507
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: the ground and it's gonna spend a lot of time

1508
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: on the ground, that is one of the hardest things

1509
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: to learn about playing going over there and playing links golf.

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01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: That's why it is very very difficult, because the ball

1511
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: doesn't just it's not like you hit it straight at

1512
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: the green. Let's say you hit it straight the pin

1513
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: from you know, you could be a ten yards out

1514
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: and the wind is coming at you so hard that

1515
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: you've got to play like a seven iron, but that

1516
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: you're basically just chipping and then it's gonna run the

1517
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: whole way. It could meander right. I mean you don't.

1518
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: You don't know necessarily what it's gonna do, So that

1519
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: becomes very difficult to make it a precise shot. And

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: I think that is one of the things that is

1521
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: distance isn't their problem there. It's gonna be their ability

1522
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: to get it close. On the greens, which do not

1523
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: roll like the great bent greens of some American courses.

1524
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: There are bumps in they are impure, they are imperfect.

1525
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna make it tough. Is this give me put

1526
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: on it? Is this the nicest, the best course of

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01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: p g A plays that period. No? Is it maybe

1528
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: the most magical? Yes? Is it the most historic? Without question,

1529
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: it's an incredibly special place. It is far from the

1530
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: nicest course. It's not Augusta. There's all sorts of country

1531
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: clubs in the United States that that are more man

1532
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,480
Speaker 1: It is the majesty and the magnificence of the birthplace

1533
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: of golf, where championships have been played for centuries. Yes,

1534
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: fiftie Open Championship, right, and the first one was played

1535
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: at We talked about Royal Presswick, which is it's such

1536
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: a cool, crazy Banana's course in its own right, and

1537
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: I think this one is is. But there's stuff that

1538
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: is not traditional. It's not target golf. It's not I'm

1539
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna throw it up in the air and I hit

1540
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: this exactly a hundred and fifty yards and it's gonna

1541
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: hit exactly at Hunter. Do you have no idea what

1542
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna do in the air, and you have no

1543
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: idea what's gonna do on the ground. Do you think

1544
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: that this? And I want to say, for some reason

1545
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: it always comes into my head as as Royal Liverpool,

1546
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think it is the one where Tiger

1547
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: didn't hit driver, Like years ago he played a Major

1548
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't hit driver. He hit hit iron off

1549
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: of every t and he won it. Kind of going away.

1550
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Might Haven one out of London. I can't remember which

1551
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: one it was. For some reason, I say Royal Liverpool,

1552
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure it's not that um, but he

1553
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: never hit driver, and I do wonder if and I

1554
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: don't think he's got a chance because I don't think

1555
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: his His swing is really stiff and just watching him

1556
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: walk looks like it hurts. So it was two thousand

1557
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: six at hoy Lake. He hit one driver all week.

1558
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: So you wonder, because of the way it's playing, does

1559
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 1: this make it more winnable or contendable for him? So

1560
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: the thing that helps how smart he is, Yes, that

1561
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: will help him. Number two, what I think will what

1562
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: what I think will really help him in terms of

1563
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: just the physicality is there isn't a ton of undulation.

1564
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: There is a ton of elevation changes. It's flat and

1565
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: you walk it. I mean, like, so he's not gonna

1566
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: have to deal with going up, steeping fines down, you know,

1567
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe in and out of some bunkers. But I think

1568
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: that he is. I think that's going to help him

1569
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to physically endure. Is he

1570
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: gonna be No, we know that, but I think it

1571
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: will help him endure a little bit. And he made

1572
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: some equipment changes for the open, which I think are

1573
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: are some interesting ones that they talked about. And so

1574
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: one of the things in his last tournament, the PGA Championship,

1575
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: he was using a nine degree dry iver with a

1576
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: shaft from two thousand and eighteen. Has got a new

1577
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: shaft in a Frujikura ventis black six x shaft and

1578
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: the tailor made stealth plus driver. We have the same driver.

1579
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I didn't like the nine degree ten. He has a

1580
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: new shaft in his P seven seventy three iron switching

1581
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: from true temper is new Dynamic Gold Tour issue. Uh.

1582
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: The mid shaft was launching two designed for slightly higher

1583
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: spinning launch angles. So what's he going for with this stuff? Like?

1584
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: It's can you tell me what this means? Like, what's

1585
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: he trying to do? So he took the five wood

1586
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: over a two iron, So he took a two ron out,

1587
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: put a five wood in, which Makawa did the opposite.

1588
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: He put a two iron in, took the five wood out.

1589
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: He now the shaft with the three iron is now

1590
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: his driving iron, and it's got he put a shaft

1591
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: in there. It's gonna launch it lower. So in trying

1592
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of turning that in, he's got a fifty six

1593
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: and sixty degree wedge. Um, I mean if there it

1594
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: is if there is a because I think it's really

1595
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna be almost nearly impossible for him. If there is

1596
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: a golf God's if it was like Rory McRoy how

1597
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: to win this, it's a hut. I mean like it's

1598
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: at St. Andrew's, Like if there's a I this feels

1599
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: like Rory's time to go win. You know, his second claret,

1600
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: doesn't it. It's been a long time since he's won.

1601
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: He's playing really well, he's been very outspoken. One other

1602
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: thing I want to run by the way he is

1603
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the odds on favorite to win. He's plus one thousand,

1604
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Xander Shoffley, Jordan's Speed, plus eighteen hundred, Rom Scheffler two thousand,

1605
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 1: Matt Fitzpatrick, Justin Thomas two thousand, two thousand, two hundred.

1606
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: I do think someone who grew up playing on this

1607
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: type of golf was like Rory grew up in this.

1608
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I would assume that this would be that would help him.

1609
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Now he could dominate the course of his length. But

1610
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: I could see him shooting like a billion out here. Yeah,

1611
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I could see him doing that too. So I do

1612
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: think it was noteworthy, really quick and only have about

1613
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: a minute or so in this Tiger was was very

1614
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: strong against the live guys. But the one thing that

1615
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: he said, and I'm not interested in that, but I

1616
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: do think this is noteworthy. He said, we don't know

1617
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: what the majors are going to do with this. I

1618
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: think that was noteworthy because he doesn't go off the reservation.

1619
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't say things controversial. That's not his that's not

1620
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: his tune at all. So he he mentioned, I don't

1621
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: know what the major is gonna do out of this.

1622
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: And today the chairman of the RNA Royal and Ancient

1623
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: that runs it said that the live tour has given

1624
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: golf a bad name. So that's one thing to pay

1625
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: attention to out of this is will the other majors

1626
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: be like, jump on with the PGA Tour and the

1627
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: European Tour and say these guys aren't in. You can

1628
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: think about it what you want, but for Tiger to

1629
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: say it to me, that's noteworthy. It certainly is not

1630
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: worthy one. And look, Tiger, the ultimate competitor, he liked it.

1631
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of guys obviously that like

1632
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: the fact they had to go out and grind and

1633
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: play all these different events to earn their living. I

1634
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: don't understand if you have. Sport has gotten to the

1635
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: point where somebody is willing to compensate you before you

1636
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: ever swing a club. Why that's bad and why people

1637
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: who accept that should be vilified? No, I and that,

1638
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: but he a part of what he was for sure. Yes,

1639
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: to me, the most noteworthy thing he said was the majors,

1640
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 1: the majors you want? Are they are? Is that conversation happening?

1641
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: That would seem so shady to me. It's not a

1642
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: major championship if the best golfers aren't in it, and

1643
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: the best golfers, regardless of where they are in the world,

1644
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: should be in it. Yeah. Period, So much more to come.

1645
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:27,919
Speaker 1: He listen to Cleland Brown's Daily on fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland,

1646
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Brown's Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. So it's happening today,

1647
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: it's happening tonight. Is that what we decided? Maverick, It's

1648
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: on back on, full steam ahead, send him, let's go.

1649
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm very excited. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1650
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be we can do old to do.

1651
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes on that, it started to right, show perfect.

1652
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: That's how that's gonna go. TBD, No, No Maverick Maverick review.

1653
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Lock it in you think I mean, I'm planning on

1654
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: giving it like a hunt. My buddy West Barkley does

1655
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: these World Food to our reviews from the i W Wrestling,

1656
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes he gets his numbers and his grades together,

1657
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: and I'm planning on giving this like a hundred out

1658
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: of a ten A plus. I think you're gonna enjoy

1659
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: a great deal. I look forward to your thoughts. The

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: next levels coming up next. Thanks for listen, everybody, Clear

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