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Speaker 5: I'm Bobby Belt from one of five foot Defan in Dallas,

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Speaker 5: I'm joined by my one o five foot Defan teammate,

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Speaker 5: Blake Elliott. As always, we've got the three time Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl champion, six time pro bowler Nate Newton with us

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Speaker 5: here and our special Cowboys alumni this evening is a

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Speaker 5: seven year NFL veteran, former first team All packed twelve

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Speaker 5: and spent three seasons with the Cowboys, where he was

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Speaker 5: Rodmaronelli's favorite player there for a little while, l like

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Speaker 5: one of his all time favorites. It is defensive tackle

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Speaker 5: Antoine Woods. Antoine, how you doing tonight, man?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I appreciate you all

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Speaker 6: for having me.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's great to have you back here. And I

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Speaker 5: see you got the you got the LA hat on

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Speaker 5: and what we always like to talk about everybody's journey

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Speaker 5: to the NFL and and how they ended up getting there.

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Speaker 5: And you were so But who grew up in a

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Speaker 5: rougher part of the Los Angeles area. I know you

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Speaker 5: grew up in Baldwin Village, yes, And you've talked before

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Speaker 5: about having a you fell in with the wrong crowd

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Speaker 5: and then you had a moment of awakening I guess

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Speaker 5: either right before high school or while you were in

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Speaker 5: high school and that kind of changed your trajectory.

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Speaker 7: Yes, uh, yeah, it was just growing up, you know,

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Speaker 7: the challenging neighborhood in Los Angeles, you know, not a

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Speaker 7: of corruption, a lot of poverty, and it just you know,

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Speaker 7: things like football that gives you, you know, an outlet

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Speaker 7: to be able to you know, move on and see

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Speaker 7: better things in life. So definitely fortunate I was they

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Speaker 3: Not just good enough to play football.

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Speaker 5: But I remember there was a player I want I

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Speaker 5: won't say who was, but there was a player coming

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Speaker 5: and he had some problems. He went undrafted, but he

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Speaker 5: And I remember asked his coach and said, what happened

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Speaker 5: And he told me, said, you know, for a lot

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Speaker 5: they end up loving the hood a little too much,

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Speaker 5: and and and they they get to this level. Even

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Speaker 5: once they're here and they've made it a little bit,

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Speaker 5: it's hard to stay away from it, and they feel

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Speaker 5: the need to get back. What kept you from going

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Speaker 5: back to that lifestyle that you really fell into at

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Speaker 5: one point? What kept you saying, no, I'm focused on

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Speaker 5: this and this is what I want to do.

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Speaker 7: Really honestly, I was the rare few that had a father,

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Speaker 7: you know, So even though I would go to their

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Speaker 6: They don't and they see you doing good things.

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Speaker 7: They would be mad at you for you know, wasting

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Speaker 7: Just refocusing because it's not easy. You know, we all

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Speaker 7: making and constantly making the right decisions over and over again.

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Speaker 5: Nate, you, I know you you're path to the NFL.

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Speaker 5: You talked about how hard you had to fight to

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Speaker 5: know you had We talked last week's had too, Taul Jones,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be there.

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Speaker 5: But you got caught in Washington and ended up in

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Speaker 5: Do you remember seeing any of those guys when you're

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Speaker 8: You know what, I'm gonna tell you something that's just life.

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Speaker 8: You see guys all in your neighborhood. These guys he

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Speaker 8: probably know that could have been on this level, basketball, football, track,

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Speaker 8: what it's just, that's just life, you know. I tell people, Uh,

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Speaker 8: it's stories like that come and go every day. It's

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Speaker 8: can get about five of them.

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Speaker 4: That it's life. But what I like what he said.

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Speaker 8: Is that he had not only his father and mother

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Speaker 8: They don't have a community. They don't have a school

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Speaker 4: It was the community. They weren't gonna let you fail.

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Speaker 8: Even though he was running with the boys, I understand

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Speaker 8: I'm I hang with y'all, but I got to be

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Speaker 3: How much did that help you too?

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Speaker 5: Because I mean DeMar DeRozan, I know from the NBA,

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Speaker 5: he's told the story before about how he said he

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Speaker 5: knew that he grew up in a bad neighborhood, but

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Speaker 5: he knew that there were always people there who were like, hey,

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Speaker 5: we're looking out for him. Like you said, don't step out,

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Speaker 5: don't cause problems, like just follow your path because you

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Speaker 5: got better than this. So how much did it become

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Speaker 5: not just people looking out for you, but you being like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be I'm not going to disappoint what

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Speaker 7: Well, it becomes how I actually look at this a lot,

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Speaker 6: Some people are just a residence.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, you lived in the hood and you was

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Speaker 7: and it's like, oh, yeah, I made out the hood,

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Speaker 7: and they still seeking validation from the hood, and which

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Speaker 6: Is not the way to go about it.

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Speaker 7: But when you were as a person that was actively

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Speaker 6: It's different, you know.

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Speaker 7: They see the opportunities, they see Okay, now you're doing something.

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Speaker 7: So now it's not only your father and yourself keeping

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Speaker 7: Had I had a struggle with this because I went

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Speaker 6: We want to we and these.

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Speaker 7: Guys right here want to be where you at, Like,

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Speaker 7: in the hood all day, you take your butt up

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Speaker 7: So it was guys like that and people around me

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Speaker 7: I look like if I just messed up this opportunity?

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Speaker 9: And Twine, I'm curious about this when it comes to

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Speaker 9: a financial situation when you're in the league, and then

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Speaker 9: even after the league, how do you deal with when

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Speaker 9: you go back home, they see you on TV, they

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Speaker 9: see you making money. How do you deal with shelling

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Speaker 7: You know, you know what, I really love this conversation

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Speaker 7: because when you're a real person, you don't.

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Speaker 6: Have to deal with that.

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Speaker 7: I've never ever had a situation or to go down

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Speaker 7: for a financial of having to pay homies no, because

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Speaker 7: when you really grow up in the area, it's like,

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Speaker 7: you can't. I'm one of y'all. What do you look like?

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Speaker 7: Why do I need the responsibility to pay you money

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Speaker 7: or to be cool? It's just just paying for validation.

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Speaker 7: That happens to the guys who are just residents who's

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Speaker 7: still trying to seek But I don't have to seek

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Speaker 7: validation because I walk the same walk and I talk

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Speaker 7: the same talk. I'm just so happened to get an

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Speaker 7: I never had that because I'm really from an area.

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Speaker 7: I don't have to pretend because more people will talk

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Speaker 7: about it more than me.

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Speaker 6: I don't have to broadcast Hey.

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Speaker 10: This is one I'm from the hood.

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Speaker 6: I struggle, no.

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Speaker 7: Everybody and more people talk about that more than me

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Speaker 6: It's the realness of it. So I've never had that situation, bro.

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Speaker 5: But I also remember you were You were one also

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Speaker 5: who you were just giving back to, to your friends

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Speaker 6: So he would ride me so hard.

439
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 7: To where point that most people wouldn't respond well, but

440
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 7: I did. He knew how to talk to me, he

441
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 7: knew how to push me, and I just kept I

442
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 7: just shut up. I just shut up and just worked.

443
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 7: I was just working. I was just like even the

444
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 7: first first day of Paths, like, because I was here

445
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 7: in the spring, I wasn't sure I was gonna make it.

446
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, these guys look great, you know.

447
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure I was.

448
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 6: Gonna make it, but that's T shirt and shorts.

449
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 7: So then we got to the first day of training camp,

450
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 7: which now we're putting on paths. Now I'm able to

451
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 7: show exactly what I could do. It was bringing me

452
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 7: to my guy right here and he don't even know this,

453
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 7: just you know me. Us players, we go to media,

454
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 7: we read the comments, what people talking about because of validation,

455
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 7: let you know if you're being talked about it or not,

456
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 7: or if you're doing good enough or not. So I

457
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 7: remember the first dair of pants. I remember he going in.

458
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 7: He said, man, this is guy, he's sixty four. It's

459
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 7: the human law. They can't move him in there. And

460
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 7: coming from a guy like that, I'm like, okay, yeah,

461
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 7: I'm getting them talk like I just needed them to talk.

462
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 6: I just need him to talk.

463
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 7: So from then on, Rob marynell he just continued to

464
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 7: push me every single day.

465
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 6: He'd never one thing about Rob Marynelli.

466
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 7: He'd never let you get comfortable, no matter you can

467
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 7: have one hundred sacks, he would never let you get comfortable.

468
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 7: And definitely he was a blessing to my career because

469
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 7: it was definitely going downhill. He gave me an opportunity

470
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 7: that I was thirsty for so definitely appreciate him.

471
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 5: Nate, you know, it's interesting Antoine just said there, you

472
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 5: know that tough coaching and those hard practice a lot

473
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 5: of guys don't respond well to that.

474
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 4: I know that.

475
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 5: You've talked about how how much they would ride you

476
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: guys in the nineties. I remember Darren Woodson telling me

477
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 5: once in an interview, he said that he's a game

478
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 5: were easy because of the way we practice, Like the

479
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: way we practice was so hard. Similarly, Lewis Neil, a

480
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 5: guy on the defensive line side, I remember he used

481
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 5: to say, Coach Rod rides us so hard that like

482
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 5: when we get to games, we all feel like this

483
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 5: is easier than what Rods had to.

484
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 3: Do during practice.

485
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: And so talk about that though, was like just an

486
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 5: idea of like thinning the herd a little bit like, Hey,

487
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 5: you're getting the guys that you want because you're you're

488
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: challenging them and pushing them here in a setting where

489
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 5: a lot of guys just get too uncomfortable.

490
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 8: Well, the thing about it just a different era, and

491
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 8: I try not to compare because we were a padded

492
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 8: We were padded guys. These are unpadded guys. It's a

493
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 8: lot of work as a coach and a scout now

494
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 8: trying to bring a guy in here because we had

495
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 8: to prove it, and we had to last, and we

496
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 8: had to stay healthy, and so we had to battle.

497
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 8: So we actually had to you know, if you were

498
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 8: a start and I was second team, I actually had

499
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 8: a chance to prove that I was better because we

500
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 8: had on the pass and we prided. Now is more projection,

501
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 8: So but every thirty two teams have to do it

502
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 8: that way. Where's we may have ran a harder practice

503
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 8: in the forty nine ers, I know we ran a

504
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 8: harder practice in.

505
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers.

506
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 8: A Minnesota may not practice at all compared to how

507
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 8: even the forty nine ers practice. But now it's all

508
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 8: one accord. So it's all bout projection. It's all about

509
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 8: where you're drafted at. Where's a free agent guy now

510
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 8: really has to have a break. Somebody got to get hurt,

511
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 8: something gotta go wrong to give a guy that's at

512
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 8: the bottom of the barrel of chance. Whereas with us,

513
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 8: we could have been at the bottom of that baron.

514
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 8: If that coach liked us, that coach Baron liked him,

515
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 8: he was gonna give a chance to ball. So it's

516
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 8: a different era, different time, different way you talk to kids.

517
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: You ain't evenna MF no.

518
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 8: Dude, Now I'm just being under that, dude, like, hey,

519
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 8: you ain't talking to me that way.

520
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: You ain't gonna you ain't gonna talk to me that way.

521
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 8: You're gonna get cut because you beat up the coach

522
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 8: because he ain't gonna let.

523
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: You talk to him that way.

524
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 8: So are he gonna fall into the tank and not

525
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 8: even performed for you?

526
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 9: If people didn't have a chance to get you see

527
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 9: you play. You also played a little bit offense, got

528
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 9: to play full back block for Zeke. Just kind of

529
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 9: talk about the differences of being in the defensive room

530
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 9: the day before and then being able to get with

531
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 9: the offense as well.

532
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 6: Uh, that was easy.

533
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 7: I mean if you're a smart guy and you and

534
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 7: you study and you're on your us. Yeah, yeah, it's

535
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 7: just it's not like you're in a full time offensive player.

536
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 6: You got fun?

537
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 3: Was it to be out there though? During game day?

538
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: It was dope?

539
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 7: It was dope because the way I felt about Zeke

540
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 7: and the way I felt about that. Yeah, you know,

541
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 7: I got a picture like I'm at fullback and like

542
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 7: you see Dak Zeke and like you know it though

543
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 7: some really good guys. So the fact that I got

544
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 7: to be able to block for d be in the

545
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 7: same backfields Zeke, I mean my bad and Dak, it

546
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 7: was an honor, you know. So it was point I

547
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 7: didn't really want the ball. I wanted to just block

548
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 7: for Z because they said run like you had the ball.

549
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 7: So I was just run like I had the ball.

550
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 7: Lead block. But we did have a play called. It

551
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 7: was a fullback and it was a touchdown play. We

552
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 7: practiced it when I didn't practice my celebration, and you know,

553
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: I was excited, like I was just too excited, like

554
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 7: one week because every week on short yallarge goal line,

555
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 7: we practice this play. So it's like every Friday, I'm

556
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 7: practicing me scoring a touchdown. So I'm like all right,

557
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 7: like I'm not tripping about getting the ball, but I'm

558
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 7: gonna be on it just in case. So boom, sure

559
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 7: enough we're in the game. We're in the game and

560
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 7: called a play in a huddle. I'm fired up, I'm ready.

561
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 7: I know I'm scoring. Over my excitement in mind, you

562
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 7: we never practice like audible audible in the play, so

563
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 7: he getting the play and then back audible play.

564
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 4: Be all.

565
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 7: I'm like, no way, So now you just say it,

566
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 7: like how you get prepared.

567
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 6: I don't know what to do.

568
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 7: So looking I got some type of football knowledge, you know,

569
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 7: the numbers. I don't know if he changed it to

570
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 7: something thirty three, I don't know.

571
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 6: Oh, but I turned around.

572
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 7: I'm like, yo, what to do and he kind of

573
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 7: just like pointed right there, and I'm like, okay, he

574
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 7: said thirty three. I'm assuming that's to the left right.

575
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 7: You know, I'm about to just lead black to lead

576
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 7: block to the left off the left guard. So that's

577
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 7: exactly what happened and we end up scoring. But I

578
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 7: was definitely pissed.

579
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: Do you remember who was against or what year?

580
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 6: No, but I can find out.

581
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 5: You need to find it because I need to go

582
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 5: I need to go back and find this play. And

583
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 5: I gotta see if we can see him drop. And

584
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh no, no, you're gonna see me drop

585
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: to one D. I'm like, I had the process, and

586
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: you know, you go to the process like, all right, audible, Okay,

587
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: it's not that play anymore.

588
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 6: So thirty three. I was like, it's to the left.

589
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: Did you say anything? To them on the sideline after

590
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: like what happened.

591
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 7: I think we scored, so it was like kind of

592
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 7: like that didn't bring it out. Yeah, I think I

593
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 7: might have got cut on the play. I was trying

594
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 7: to leave block on the middle line back here, I

595
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 7: got cut.

596
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 4: Now.

597
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: I love that. We're gonna talk a little bit ahead.

598
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 5: I know, I know Nate has got to be itching

599
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 5: to talk about that Eagles victory on Sunday. So we're

600
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: gonna talk about that Eagles game coming up next second.

601
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 5: But before we go to that, though, you mentioned talking

602
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 5: about playing with Dak and Zeke and what a special

603
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 5: experience that was.

604
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: And this always comes up when people talk about Dak.

605
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: I feel like in the media, the discussion of yeah, well, well,

606
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 5: what's the difference with them? And so often you'll hear

607
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 5: guys who point to leadership and intangibles and different things

608
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 5: like that. And I remember Brandon Cooks talking about this

609
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: once after practice where he said, if you don't know

610
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: how valuable that is, you think that sounds like we're

611
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: avoiding talking about something else. You just don't know how

612
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 5: valuable everybody finds it when you've got that guy at

613
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: that position. So just talk about like the difference that

614
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: you feel that makes when you got somebody who can

615
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: just command the locker room and lead a group like that.

616
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 7: And I'm so happy you asked me this question because

617
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 7: I get asked this question so much from people outside

618
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 7: of football and outside to regular folks.

619
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something about Dak. That is my.

620
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 7: Favorite quarterback in the NFL, right because I'd have been

621
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 7: other places and experience of other quarterbacks, And let me

622
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 7: tell you something about Dak on The one factor that

623
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 7: Dak has that not a lot of quarterback has is

624
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 7: he has the look as a defensive guy. If when

625
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 7: you're going through a game and you and shit is

626
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 7: not going well. Excuse me my language, excuse my language.

627
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 7: Stuff stuff not going well, let it stay.

628
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a defensive guy and stuff is not.

629
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 7: Going well, you look over to the quarterback and you

630
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 7: read his body language and you see, like, all right,

631
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 7: what's his demeanor, what's his energy?

632
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 6: Like Dak is gonna always have a look.

633
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 7: You could be down twenty one in the fourth quarter

634
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 7: and Dak got the right look on it, like he

635
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 7: still think he's gonna win. We on defense might not

636
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 7: think so, but Dak still believes so that's why he became.

637
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 7: And then the way he is as a leader, second

638
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 7: to none, second to none.

639
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 6: I like, I think the world of Dak.

640
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 7: I think the world that and I had a you know,

641
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 7: even though I got a bone to pick with him

642
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 7: because uh, you know, my son is getting older and

643
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 7: uh he uh. He asked me like, hey, you know

644
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott. I'm like, yeah, I know, Dak, that's my boy.

645
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 7: Like you know, I said, you know, I'm a FaceTime.

646
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: That answered, what's talking to the buildings? Now?

647
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 6: No, no, I understand, he's a superstar.

648
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: Come out? Do you come out, come out, come out

649
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: to practice?

650
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will.

651
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 13: Yeah.

652
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Bruh, you know Dak is d no no.

653
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 6: No, no, no no no, no no no. I'm just shooting.

654
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: I'm just giving him stuff.

655
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: I don't give him.

656
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: He's a superstar, bro.

657
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 7: I didn't expect him to ask them, you know, but

658
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Speaker 7: I know if I've seen him, it'll be love.

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, all right, let's take our second break here.

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Speaker 5: joined by my one O five through the Fan teammate

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Speaker 5: Blake Elliott. Tonight, We've got three time Super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 5: six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton with us here as

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Speaker 5: well and our Cowboys alumni. This evening is seven year

684
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Speaker 5: better in defensive tackle an twin Woods. So, guys, we

685
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: were talking about this a little bit going into the

686
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Speaker 5: break there being down significantly on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles,

687
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Speaker 5: and before we get into the specifics of the comeback,

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Speaker 5: I'm curious about something for you, an Swine. So you

689
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 5: were on that team in twenty eighteen, it was your

690
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: first year here where midway through the season everybody felt

691
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 5: like kind of in a lull sitting here at three

692
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Speaker 5: and four, and they make the move for Marii Cooper

693
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: who comes in here and just lights a spark pretty quickly.

694
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Speaker 5: First game against Tennessee, y'all lose, but after that, you

695
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: guys go on an absolute run there for a while,

696
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: and he is a big time difference baker. And that

697
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: feels like you as a defensive tackle, I'm sure you're

698
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: loving it. That feels like what they've gotten right here

699
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: out of Quentinn Williams, who has just wrecked shop these

700
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 5: first two weeks.

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Speaker 7: For sure, for sure, Uh, definitely a big presence, uh

702
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 7: game changer in this night and day to how they've

703
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 7: been performing on defense. And don't forget a guy like

704
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 7: Kenny Clark. You know, Kenny Clark has been played very

705
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 7: well in this league. It's one of my good friends.

706
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 7: And I've been trying to tell him back, Yeah because

707
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 7: he because he because sometimes you do a lot of

708
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 7: the hidden work that you don't see, you know. So uh,

709
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 7: having them two on the field together and then with Osa,

710
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 7: it's just changed the dynamics of the defense. You know,

711
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 7: they're playing the way they're supposed to be. So it

712
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 7: was like great move by Jerry by finally getting a

713
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 7: presence like Quintin Williams in there. But really, I think

714
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 7: Kenny Clark is a person you just put two. To me,

715
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 7: in my opinion, you put two elite de tackles on

716
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 7: the same team together, and he had.

717
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Speaker 6: Two dogs for sure.

718
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 7: And not to mentioned Osa, who's already a dog in

719
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 7: himself who's been coming along.

720
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Speaker 4: See, this is what I was trying to tell people.

721
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: People thought I was so hard on Osa.

722
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 8: Osa does not And see he probably if he heard

723
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 8: me say this years ago or weeks ago or whatever.

724
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 8: He's not a sixty snap guy. Osa is a thirty

725
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 8: five to forty snap guy. He dominates when he when

726
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 8: he can go into a game and let loose. At

727
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 8: six foot three, two hundred and eighty five pounds. Now

728
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 8: he's a terror. Whereas you was actually the same guy

729
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 8: to play a one technique and a three technique with

730
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Speaker 8: big old four hundred pounds dude deuce blocking him.

731
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Speaker 4: He was not gonna last.

732
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Speaker 8: He was not gonna now this dude his last two

733
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Speaker 8: games go check is what the BFF or whatever?

734
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Speaker 3: I'm you don't even need to do that. It's turn

735
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Speaker 3: the table, he'll say it.

736
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Speaker 4: Probably he's a different animal now. And so bro Clark,

737
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: I tried to tell him.

738
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Speaker 8: Clark was eating up all of those double teams. Sure,

739
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 8: now you gotta make it this decision. Old said, it's

740
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 8: gonna be one on one. You not don doubles because

741
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 8: you got two dogs in the middle now, a one

742
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 8: and a three. You're gonna have to double one of them.

743
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 8: And that's gonna free it up for sure.

744
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: Have you ever had that opportunity to be ware you

745
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: not getting double team?

746
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 13: No?

747
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 6: Love double teams? Yeah, I love them.

748
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 13: No.

749
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Speaker 6: And the thing about playing the nose.

750
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 7: Tackle position is that you have to do it's a

751
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 7: difference between the play call they double team the noose,

752
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 7: and it's a difference between you demand the double team

753
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 7: when you when you have guys in there that demand presence,

754
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 7: that demand the double team.

755
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Speaker 6: It changes the dynamics.

756
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: Right, So if you have a one technique, just think

757
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 7: about the importance and Ebra Flu's defense the same as

758
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 7: Rob Manner, the same treat right that defense. The three

759
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 7: technique has to be a guy. So now let's say

760
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 7: you have a nose tackle or it. Whoever's playing the one,

761
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 7: I know a lot of them guys interchangeable. Whoever plays

762
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 7: the one, he's demanding a double team like Kenny Clark

763
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 7: does and plays good blocks and plays well in there.

764
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 6: Now you have guys like oh saying Quentin that now

765
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 6: you can show who you are.

766
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 7: You're not stressed because you got four hands on you

767
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: every play or they sliding and protection to you, because no,

768
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 7: you have somebody that's sitting there that's doing the hitting

769
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 7: and work for you, and he's demanding because Lord helps you.

770
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 7: If you don't double team, that's right, because that's how

771
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 7: it's supposed to be. If you're a guy in this league,

772
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 7: especially of those, if you're not getting double team, you

773
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 7: have to you have to be a factor. I'm not

774
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 7: saying you got to blow up the play and get

775
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: one hundred sacks, but you have to be a factor.

776
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 7: It should be something that you're doing that's effecting the play.

777
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 7: So it's a difference between getting double team and demanding.

778
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 7: But definitely the ad of Quentin Williams and Kenny Clark.

779
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: I'm like it changed the defense.

780
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 9: How different is it? We've seen the last couple of

781
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 9: weeks some use five down man front with five different

782
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 9: of linemen, having Kenny Osa and Coinning out there. What

783
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 9: did you see being was that a huge difference maker

784
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 9: in that Philly game making to go single blocks and

785
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 9: kind of your experience.

786
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: With five oh five man front is that's what you

787
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 7: do when you got dogs. It's just you can't double

788
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 7: team nobody. I just told you right now. The name

789
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 7: of the game was the man the double chap. What

790
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 7: happens if by alignment you can't double team. Everybody got

791
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 7: to do their work. So you got five guys with

792
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 7: five people on the mind. You they're not all been

793
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 7: becoming but pre snappy think it is, so now it

794
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 7: changes the things.

795
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 6: That's just being smart the same dude y'all.

796
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 7: Wanted five three weeks ago. Yeah, I'm just saying but

797
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 7: that that goes to tell you what happens when you

798
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 7: bring the right pieces in. You have the right pieces,

799
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 7: So now a coordinator can get a little bit freaky

800
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 7: out there.

801
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 6: He can be like, oh man, let me go find

802
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: down I got.

803
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.

804
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 6: That's why I got three guys inside that can win

805
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 6: at any moment.

806
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 7: Compared to imagine when they Kenny and Quinton wasn't here

807
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 7: now and they're playing eighty snaps, thank you and now

808
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 7: now and now y'all trying to let him get his

809
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 7: money's work because they gave him a little bit of money.

810
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: You want to see and you want to see Osa

811
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 7: have eight to ten sacks, but he in there tire,

812
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 7: you're playing seventy nine. They doubling him. There's nobody there

813
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 7: that's demanding nothing. You know when Parsons was here, he

814
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 7: demanded something. So why you think Osa became a guy?

815
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 7: There's other guys around you.

816
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: You have the plus player, the B player can can

817
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: That's where.

818
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 7: You gotta go, yes, because the A players demand all

819
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 7: attention to me. I was a D player C plus plus.

820
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: I want you to go to.

821
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 8: Want to go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna say something to

822
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 8: seven to eleven.

823
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: Dude, right outside of outside inside seven eleven.

824
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 9: Eleven outside of Quinn and demanding the double team. What

825
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 9: is something when it's an elite defensive tackle on those

826
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 9: sack of the people watching on TV don't realize what

827
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 9: they do for the other people on the football field.

828
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 7: It's a lot of unselfish like little work that you

829
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 7: don't see, right, it's just being just one line. Number

830
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 7: one is doing your job. That's harder within itself. Just

831
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 7: do your job, being the right gap, play the block

832
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 7: the right way.

833
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: That's hard.

834
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 7: What happens, I think the Cowboys happened. There wasn't a

835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 7: lot of guys that's doing the job. A lot of

836
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 7: misfitting guys now going the right way. And but when

837
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 7: you bring veteran president that some guys that have a master's,

838
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: you know, so it changes the whole dynamics.

839
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 6: You know. So when you have guys like that that's

840
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 6: in the middle and changed now the dbs are not.

841
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 6: It's worried.

842
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 5: You know how big a difference is it too. This

843
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: is one of the things that we've been talking about

844
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: a little bit.

845
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 6: You know.

846
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 5: We had Layton vander Heshan here a couple of weeks ago,

847
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: and Layton had talked about, Man, it's a difference to

848
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: go to Logan will something to Marvin Overshown from what

849
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 5: you've been getting out.

850
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Of linebacker to be able to just have that that's big.

851
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: You get Quinning here, and by adding Quinning you're getting

852
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: a different version of Kenny and Osa. And then for

853
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: weeks you've been without your safeties Malie Hooker and Donovan Wilson.

854
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: So talk about just for a defense, like when you

855
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 5: can go out there and just say the entire middle

856
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: of the field is different at all three levels now

857
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: and it's better players than you had to Just talk

858
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: about what a boost that can mean, how much can

859
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 5: change the dynamic of a defense.

860
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 7: Well, I think, oh, with the defense, right, you gotta

861
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 7: go with the system. The system what Ibra flu says

862
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 7: they the whole system of that defense is it cannot

863
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 7: be elite if the big guys don't run and the

864
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 7: little guys tackle. That's the whole message of Ibra Flus,

865
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 7: Rod Marinelli all the guys before them. The big guys

866
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 7: gotta run, and you need a three technique that can

867
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 7: play ball, it can get home, and the.

868
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 6: Little guys gotta tackle.

869
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 7: I think my biggest thing I see one is you

870
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 7: got presence in the inside. Right, you got some guys

871
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 7: that were really hard, that's keeping the hard edge, and

872
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 7: then you got the little guys that are starting to

873
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 7: come to the party. It seemed like, I don't know

874
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 7: if the Safeties came back that just made it.

875
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 8: No, this is what happened is they brought Quinny Williams

876
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 8: in here along with Clark, and the first interview these

877
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 8: guys did was I'm gonna do my job for sure.

878
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 8: For eight, ten, twelve weeks, I've been telling dudes, just

879
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 8: do your job. I understand the evil Fluie. Way do

880
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 8: your job. Guys were hijacking the scheme. Now you're not

881
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 8: allowed to hijack. Sure, Now go ahead on with my brother.

882
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 6: No for sure. So now you got guys that one's accountability.

883
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: Yes.

884
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 7: So before you know, they were struggling, stopping and run,

885
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 7: struggling to just put guys in the right place. Yeah,

886
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 7: so now it's accountability factor. You got guys that you

887
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: don't even have to think no more. You know, Kenny

888
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: gonna be in the middle. You know Quinny gonna be

889
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 7: in the middle. You know they gonna disrupt, you know,

890
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 7: so now you don't have to Now the linebackers was

891
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 7: playing free now the d bes or not, so they're

892
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 7: not just thinking about fitting a run.

893
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: As much as they was earlier in the season.

894
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 7: You know, there's sometimes the safety you got coverage, but

895
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 7: you also got to fit the be gap. Yeah, so

896
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 7: if now you got interior, guys, that's not fitting right,

897
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 7: and now your be gap is big and you're trying

898
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 7: to cover a deep half too. Like it confuses. It's

899
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 7: just a train effect that can confuse from a top down.

900
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 5: It's such a when you look at eight straight stops

901
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: against the Eagles, which were massive, even when even when

902
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: you look at them going up to twenty one, I

903
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: think they're obviously right, there's a turf there's a tur

904
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 5: fubble in there there. The NFL came out later and

905
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 5: said it was a mistake to call the rough in

906
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: the punter that drive should not have extended. So that

907
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: extended a drive that they ended up scoring on. But

908
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 5: when you look at this team the last two weeks

909
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 5: and look at a defense that can get eight straight

910
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: stops against the world champs and an offense that can

911
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: do what they want, obviously there's there's some odds stacked

912
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: against you to get to the postseason now, But how

913
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: much does it feel like if you get into the postseason,

914
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 5: that's just a dangerous football team.

915
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: If you can play at the level you've played the

916
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks.

917
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 7: I will say that they shouldn't think that far. They've

918
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 7: been playing good ball last few weeks. And like you

919
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 7: said twenty eighteen, Jason Garrett's biggest message, it was just week.

920
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 7: The week we wouldn't care about the next week. The

921
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 7: weeks after that, like Holly see, we was three and five,

922
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 7: and he made a clear message. I remember on the

923
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 7: team and he was just like yo, our backs against

924
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 7: the wall. He kept tapping that wall. He bade he

925
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 7: played like the rock, a clip of the rock, saying

926
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 7: like his back was against the wall.

927
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 6: He played it every week, every week on Wednesday and Monday.

928
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 7: And he kept reiterating like we're our practice against the wall,

929
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 7: and he kept smacking the wall and the only way

930
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 7: to go is that way, and we would just take slow,

931
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 7: slow steps and we would get there.

932
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 8: The thing that and I told this on our podcast today,

933
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 8: it's two differences. You could say you're desperate to get

934
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 8: to somewhere, but if you've never been there before, how

935
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 8: desperate can you be? The Kansas City Chiefs. Understand what

936
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 8: desperation is. You know why they've been there. They have

937
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 8: danced that dance past the second round. A lot of

938
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 8: these guys ain't dancing in the first round, so they're

939
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: desperation is different.

940
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: They are backs against the wall.

941
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

942
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: I'd rather play the rock than to try to play.

943
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 8: Let's get forward, because you can't get forward with someone

944
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 8: you ain't never been. These guys gotta jail together, keep

945
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 8: doing your job, keep play by play, series by series,

946
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 8: game by game. They don't have that. You can't go

947
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 8: to a well you've never been to. You don't know

948
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 8: how deep that well is. So we got to find out.

949
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 6: And they don't have the time to be feeling good

950
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 6: about this.

951
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 7: Thank you, Yeah, good good, Yeah job Eagles, good job Division.

952
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 7: But you got the big dogs tomorrow on Thanksgiving. Yeah,

953
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 7: that's overly desperate too.

954
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 5: Look at a good professional broadcaster, Antoine Woods teasing the

955
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: head the next segment. Because we got the Kansas City

956
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving tomorrow, Let's take

957
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 5: our final break. When we come back, we're gonna take

958
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 5: a look ahead at that game a little bit and

959
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 5: talk about what some of the keys to victory are.

960
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: I know one thing, at the very least, Nate's gonna

961
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 5: tell us by one, at least, by one least.

962
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 4: How well you gotta do. Let me go to next week.

963
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: Let's talk about break that break the wishbones tomorrow on the.

964
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Speaker 3: SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. I'll tick Lands.

965
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Speaker 10: Go Cowboys, mhm, no Cowboys, No Cowboys.

966
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967
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968
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Speaker 5: next adventure. Welcome back to the Cowboys Club, the Star

971
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: and Frisco for the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. This is

972
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Speaker 5: our final segment, just the last few minutes. Here We're

973
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: coming to you live on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

974
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 5: I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan,

975
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: the radio flagship home of the Cowboys. I've got my

976
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: one O five th the Fan teammate Blake Elliott here,

977
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: the six time Pro bowler, three time Super Bowl champ,

978
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: should be Ring of honor, future Hall of Famer Nate

979
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: Newton here with us and our special Cowboys alumni this

980
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 5: evening is seven year NFL veteran defensive tackle Antwan Woods.

981
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: So they got the Kansas City Chiefs.

982
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: They've got the team of the last probably seven eight

983
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: years something like that in the NFL, A guy who

984
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: a lot of people believe could go down as being

985
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: talked about as one of the greatest, if not the

986
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 5: greatest quarterback of all time coming in here. It's been

987
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 5: a little bit of a tougher road for them, and

988
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 5: I think statistically, if you look at the way they've performed,

989
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: they're actually playing better at times than they did last year.

990
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 5: I know there was a poll done of NFL front

991
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: office and coaches people kind of like anonymously recently about

992
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: the Chiefs. I think ESPN had done it, and their

993
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: big thing was just they said, the Chiefs are just

994
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 5: not winning one score games like they did last year.

995
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 5: I think they were eleven to zero and one score

996
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: games last year. They're zero to five this year. So

997
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: it's just completely reversed on them. Is still still a

998
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 5: very dangerous football team, though, one that you would look

999
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: at and go, this is not your typical five hundred

1000
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: team rolling in here on a short week. This is

1001
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: absolutely a dangerous football team. So what are your thoughts,

1002
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: Nate Antoine, what are your thoughts in terms of like

1003
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: this is the way Dallas needs to approach this game tomorrow.

1004
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 7: I think it might be the biggest test so far.

1005
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 7: You know, the Eagles game last week. You know, that's

1006
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 7: a divisional game and it's very important, and we were

1007
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 7: more excited to see it based upon how the first

1008
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 7: game went and just being a quality appointment. But I

1009
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: think just going a by just what they're trying to

1010
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 7: do and how good they were looking, this is a

1011
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 7: good test for him. You got a team that's overly desperate,

1012
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 7: that's not used to being five hundred, you know. So yeah,

1013
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 7: I think especially defensively, it's being able to can you contain,

1014
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 7: like you said, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever

1015
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 7: do it? They have a lot of weapons, and can

1016
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 7: you continue to play at a high level we've been

1017
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 7: playing that It's a good test to you know, the

1018
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 7: quality and the investment that you've made, you know, with

1019
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 7: quitting in everybody and how it's been flowing lately.

1020
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 6: It'll be a great test for him. And then the

1021
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 6: other side, you know, how do you deal with Chris Jones?

1022
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know we're talking about a guy like Quinn Williams,

1023
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 7: and that's a guy like Chris Jones.

1024
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: How do you deal with that?

1025
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 5: So, you know, Nay, I'm curious when you put your

1026
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety six you guys, after winning those three Super

1027
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: Bowls in four years, didn't start the season the way

1028
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 5: you wanted to, and a lot of people that the

1029
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 5: narrative out there in the media at that time was like,

1030
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: this isn't the same Cowboys team. Do you remember trying

1031
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: to put yourself in kind of the Kansas City position

1032
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 5: right now? Do you remember teams approaching you guys differently

1033
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 5: during the week or feeling like, man, they don't respect

1034
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 5: us the way they should.

1035
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you what is happening in to Kansas City.

1036
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 8: For the last six years, they have played two to

1037
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 8: four extra games, depending on whether you go with the

1038
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 8: sixteen games season of a seventeen game season. They have

1039
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 8: always played two to three games more sometime four if

1040
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 8: they were a wild card.

1041
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: That is an extra season.

1042
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 8: Chris Jones the quarterback, part of the offensive line, few

1043
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 8: of the tight end.

1044
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: All of these.

1045
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 8: Guys are getting older. The talent is not as great.

1046
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 8: The ability to churn it up is even harder. And

1047
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 8: now everybody's coming at you. So they are fighting through that.

1048
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 8: They are going through that. Only that there.

1049
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying there's not an italy because your

1050
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: boy Chris is still a dog.

1051
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 8: He's a dog. But it is harder and harder every year.

1052
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 8: These guys are getting older, getting a step slower. So

1053
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 8: now they're more mentally strong, but the athletic ability is

1054
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 8: not there. But they have good thank God for them

1055
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 8: to have great coaches. They're still a well tackling defensive team.

1056
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 8: They still got that number fifteen over there that can

1057
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 8: make is that got the number right? Yep, he's still

1058
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 8: got number fifteen over there. So you still got those

1059
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 8: key pieces and they're trying to fit these young guys

1060
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 8: in along with injuries.

1061
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 4: They got that up. They sent a right guard.

1062
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who is a great interior offense.

1063
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: So I'm telling folks, this is about how it's going.

1064
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 8: And he's trying to keep this thing together while building

1065
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 8: his team back around fifteen again because it got away

1066
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 8: from fifteen. And what I mean by that is one

1067
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 8: year fifteen slid up the Super Bowl. Then the next

1068
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 8: few times he's been it's been a run game with Pacheco.

1069
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: They lit up the Super Bowl, then the defense took over.

1070
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 8: So now he's trying to build this thing back towards

1071
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 8: number fifteen because everybody's getting a little older.

1072
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 9: If you were Shottenheimer and the Dallas Cowboys, how would

1073
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 9: you go about approaching this game? Because we just talked

1074
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 9: about Trey Smith being out. The Chiefs just played an

1075
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 9: overtime game against the Colts where you had Kareem Hunt

1076
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 9: career high thirty carries, guys banged up short week, having

1077
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 9: to travel to Dallas on Thanksgiving, all the festivities and whatnot.

1078
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 9: Would you just roll your game plan out there or

1079
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 9: know that, hey, the Chiefs are coming in here.

1080
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: Must win game. I would approach it this way.

1081
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 8: The thing is that can't sit home. If he sit

1082
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 8: in one spot, Steve Spagnola gonna get him. He gonna

1083
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 8: light him up, because what he does is he he

1084
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 8: gonna bring either six men or five men, one more

1085
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 8: than what you got the block, or he gonna zone

1086
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 8: blitz you. He gonna hit you so many different ways

1087
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 8: with corners, with safeties. But but he when you into

1088
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 8: a third and five, a second and ten in this

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Speaker 8: obvious passing downs, he's trying to tell you where you're

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Speaker 8: gonna throw the ball at. He's trying to dictate that.

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Speaker 8: I think that what they gotta do a little bit more,

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Speaker 8: not a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: Roll dac out. Don't don't sit there and be sitting duck.

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Speaker 8: Sitting duck for this guy, he's a maniac when it

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Speaker 8: comes to this right here, he's the best at it.

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Speaker 6: He knows.

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Speaker 4: He tried to be a head coach and he came

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Speaker 4: back and say, you.

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Speaker 8: Know what, I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 8: the best defensive coordinator under the number one offensive coordinator

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Speaker 8: in the league. So and the reed Steve spagno bruh.

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Speaker 8: They ready, they are making a run. And the difference between.

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Speaker 4: Their desperation and the Cowboys desperation. They know what they're

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Speaker 4: going for and they know how to do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean you mentioned there. Steve Spagnol has

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Speaker 5: a challenge and he's absolutely tounged. He's been a challenge

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Speaker 5: for Dak. We had done a study on this during

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Speaker 5: the offseason. The defensive coordinator that Dak has struggled the

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Speaker 5: most against statistically in his career outside of just one

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Speaker 5: off games, has been the Steve Spagan all the defense,

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Speaker 5: whether it's been against the Giant or whether he's gotten

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Speaker 5: a chance against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: It's a it can be a tough thing. But similarly,

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Speaker 3: the other.

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Speaker 5: One that he struggled against was Vic Fangio, and he

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Speaker 5: had a lot of success this past week against them.

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Speaker 3: With Philly.

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Speaker 8: The thing, the thing that UH going to have to

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Speaker 8: happen is he's been manipultly. He's been making our offensive

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Speaker 8: line look better than what it is. But I promise you,

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Speaker 8: just like Denver, you cannot do this here. I promise

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Speaker 8: you now and buy one right by hey, by many ones.

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Speaker 6: But there we go.

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Speaker 3: All right, Antolets, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: What We'll get you out there to practice soon so

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Speaker 5: you can you can confront Dak about the FaceTime call.

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Speaker 3: That'll be good. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody, and

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to you guys again next week on the

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