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Speaker 1: What happened over the weekend is that a Trump appointed

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Speaker 1: the original judge in this case, was considered a liberal,

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Speaker 1: and the Justice Department went in and asked him to

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Speaker 1: around some of the issues in the case, and he

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Speaker 1: probably didn't have to, but he did recuse himself. And

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Speaker 1: then the case ended up in the hands of Karen

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Speaker 1: Immergut I hope I'm pronouncing her name wrong, a Trump

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Speaker 1: appointee from the first term, and the case was the

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Speaker 1: state of Oregon suing the Trump administration and saying you

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Speaker 1: cannot take over our National Guard and send them to Portland. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought originally that Immergut was going

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Speaker 1: to be a friendly judge to the Trump administration. She wasn't.

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Speaker 1: She wrote one of the most courageous decisions of the

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Speaker 1: entire year. If people have not read it, you should

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Speaker 1: go and read it. It's it's a thirty one page decision,

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Speaker 1: a true active bravery to stand up to this administration.

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Speaker 1: A lot of judges wouldn't have done this, especially the

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Speaker 1: deference that judges generally give the commander in chief and

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Speaker 1: specifically in a situation like this for people who don't

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Speaker 1: know the full story. Once she told the administration it

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Speaker 1: was illegal for them to take over the Oregon National

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Speaker 1: Guard and send them into Portland, Trump immediately commandeered troops

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Speaker 1: from California, which National Court troops he had already federalized

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Speaker 1: within hours of this ruling, and had them on their

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Speaker 1: way to Portland. Naturally, state of California wasn't happy about this.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom joined the Oregon lawsuit and said asked the

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Speaker 1: same judge to extend her temporary restraining order to the

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Speaker 1: California troops as well. There was an emergency meeting last

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Speaker 1: night about this issue, and the judge immediately released a

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Speaker 1: new restraining order, which might be worth just reading because

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like having a child who

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Speaker 1: finds a loophole, so you got to like strengthen you

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Speaker 1: know the rules, the rules at home and defendants, this

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Speaker 1: is Trump and Pete Hegseth are enjoined from deploying federalized

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Speaker 1: members of the National Guard in Oregon, and it applies

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Speaker 1: to any members of the National Guard, any federalized members.

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Speaker 1: So originally this was just about Oregon. Now she's saying everyone,

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Speaker 1: what happened after that? And this is where it gets bad, Steve,

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Speaker 1: And this is where this is something that you've been

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Speaker 1: talking about for a while. The governor of Texas, Governor Abbott,

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Speaker 1: basically lent Trump few hundred troops to let him do

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Speaker 1: with them as he pleases. I have to say, if

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Speaker 1: this were happening in a foreign country, if they're happening

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Speaker 1: in Russia, like twenty years ago, when and Putin was

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Speaker 1: like sending troops to one of the you know, to

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Speaker 1: the governor there was saying, no, you can't have them,

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Speaker 1: and Putin kept trying to figure out ways to send

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Speaker 1: troops into this territory. We would be describing this as

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Speaker 1: a as a country falling, falling apart, coming apart. Finally,

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Speaker 1: the last thing, just to catch people up, Illinois now

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Speaker 1: has sued President Trump over his effort to deploy National

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Speaker 1: National Guard troops in Chicago. So we're going to see

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Speaker 1: if this that that case is going to be very

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Speaker 1: important and we'll see if the judge there does with

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Speaker 1: this Trump ap pointed judge in Oregon did so that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's the latest. Where does it go from here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: what do you think.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have two fights playing out and they are

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Speaker 2: happening in two different theaters fundamentally, so let's separate those.

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Speaker 2: The first one's in Washington, DC, and that's around the

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Speaker 2: federal government shutdown, and that's playing out between the Democratic

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Speaker 2: the use of the army, and that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Once you federalize the National Guard, it's no longer the

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Speaker 2: California National Guard, it's the US Army by the time

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Speaker 2: and you have what is a fight playing out now

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Speaker 2: between the Democratic governors and the administration. So let's take

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Speaker 2: these two things separately. They're connected, but separate with regard

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Speaker 2: to what comes next. The Democrats, of course, are correct

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Speaker 2: these healthcare subsidies. However, it's the wrong hill to fight

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Speaker 2: by what Trump wants to do overwhelmingly are the Trump voters,

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Speaker 2: and elections have consequences. So Chuck Schumer has architected a

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Speaker 2: political strategy that is, in essence, a bailout of the

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Speaker 2: the country. It's an untenable political position for a lot

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Speaker 2: of different reasons. And if we're teaching a class about

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Speaker 2: this twenty years from now and we're trying to describe

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Speaker 2: there was a great healthcare crisis, there's a great crisis

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Speaker 2: in the American state, and questions around American liberty. And

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Speaker 2: so what the Democrats in Washington have to demand in

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Speaker 2: a situation that has changed since the shutdown began, including

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Speaker 2: events that a are Stephen Miller's announcements of his hates and

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Speaker 2: the use of force, and the justifications the escalations in

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Speaker 2: Chicago and Oregon, that the Democratic position in Washington simply be,

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Speaker 2: you don't have the votes and we demand these things stop.

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Speaker 2: In addition, two and so the Democratic position here as

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Speaker 2: this shutdown goes on, has to harden. It has to evolve,

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Speaker 2: these unconstitutional outrages and obscenities cease. And that's on the

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Speaker 2: federal side. There's a different equation on the governor side.

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Speaker 2: And I think that I've thought a lot about America

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Speaker 2: while watching, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays games this year in Toronto over the summer, and

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Speaker 2: it's a great team team. The Democratic governors need to

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Speaker 2: be a team and they need to put any rivalries

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Speaker 2: as such. And there are a couple of states that

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Speaker 2: are of outsized importance here. Those are California, and those

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Speaker 2: big calif but the big Democratic mega states Oregon and Washington,

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Speaker 2: and the governors of those states must meet. The Democratic

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Speaker 2: adopt the philosophy, not policies, and the philosophy is that

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Speaker 2: the maximum of abuse of power by the federal government

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Speaker 2: enter into binding compacts with one another on everything from

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Speaker 2: banking to one hundred other issues that can thwart the

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Speaker 2: federal abuses of power and protect a maximum number of

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Speaker 2: citizens and derail the autocratic takeover and agenda. There is

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Speaker 2: tremendous power in the teachers funds, pension funds in California,

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Speaker 2: the state employee retirement funds, the same in New York.

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Speaker 2: This is why this governor's raise in New Jersey is

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Speaker 2: so important. But the blue state governors have to get

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Speaker 2: California need to investigate the abuses. What happened at that

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Speaker 2: committees of the Illinois legislature and JB. Prinsker should call

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Speaker 2: the Illinois Legislature into emergency special session. All of the

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Speaker 2: Democratic states should call their legislatures in to a special

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Speaker 2: session to deal with the exigence circumstances at hand. Every

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Speaker 2: opposition entity, group organization in the country needs to stand

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Speaker 2: ready as soon millions of people will be on the

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Speaker 2: streets and common cause for the No Kings protests that

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Speaker 2: are taking place very very soon. And as Lincoln said,

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Speaker 2: with public opinion, anything is possible. Without it, nothing is possible.

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Speaker 2: Then we must poison the waters of public opinion to

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Speaker 2: rally the American people against these obscenities, this arrogance, these preening,

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Speaker 2: lying federal officials, who dare to point guns at us

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Speaker 2: and abuse us when these people work for us? How

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Speaker 2: dare they?

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