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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: time on the open of the show as history nerds

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Speaker 1: So that happened. Biden has made a couple of viral moments.

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Speaker 1: him not to Buck. Just just FYI, I like to

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Speaker 1: use this site polymarket dot com Trump big lead in

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Speaker 1: presidential race. There has been four million dollars bet still

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent chance that he will not, but the

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Speaker 1: to jail. But I wanted to hit you with this buck.

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Speaker 1: Reports coming out from all the major media outlets yesterday

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Speaker 1: afternoon evening that Trump has I'm reading from Axios, has

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Speaker 1: requested financial and other documents from eight potential VP picks

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Speaker 1: as he formalizes his pick. This is multiple places. The

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Speaker 1: AP had this, New York Times, Axio, CNN, Fox News,

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of had this. I want to get your reaction.

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Speaker 1: We can also have you guys react out there. Here

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Speaker 1: are the eight on the list. Senator JD Vance of

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Speaker 1: Ohio North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida,

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Speaker 1: Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, Ben Carson talented surgeon,

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Speaker 1: former Housing and Urban Affairs Secretary, Representative Elise Stephonic who

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Speaker 1: from New York, went after Columbia and Penn and Mit

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Sorry, Harvard, Mit and Penn in

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Speaker 1: that hearing relating to anti Semitism on campus, Representative Byron

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Speaker 1: Donald's and Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: You have previously said you think it'll be jd Vance.

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Speaker 1: I have said that I believe it will be Tim Scott.

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Speaker 1: Any of those eight names really stand out to you?

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Speaker 1: Do you think the list is accurate? Again? The report

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Speaker 1: is that this is who Trump has requested a detailed

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Speaker 1: VP questionnaire fill out from, and what jumps out to

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Speaker 1: you if anything about this list?

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Speaker 3: Well, for one thing, I think that nobody knows who

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Speaker 3: is going to be the pick, including at this point.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Trump.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Trump has made his mind up?

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Speaker 3: You No, I don't think Trump's made up his mind

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Speaker 3: yet because he knows it's more interesting if he hasn't

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Speaker 3: made up his mind. He's a showman, right, He's gonna

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Speaker 3: keep open all kinds of possibilities here. There'll be new

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Speaker 3: stories about this, lots of new stories about this going

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Speaker 3: on until there's finally an official announcement. I again, I

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Speaker 3: lot of people in the media who talk about the VP, sweepstakes,

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Speaker 3: the deep stakes, whatever. I think this should be about

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Speaker 3: somebody who can, you know, coalesce the Republican Party and

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Speaker 3: the shorter term, everyone thinks about this in terms of

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Speaker 3: how it will affect the election or the electoral prospects

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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump. I just don't think it really matters.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's a as long as you don't

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Speaker 3: if that's pretty much why I've been saying, I think

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Speaker 3: JD would be a good choice. All along, because for me,

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Speaker 3: it's about who do I want to be president? If

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Speaker 3: no question about it. Who do I want to be president?

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Speaker 3: Then that's how I view it, And I just think

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Speaker 3: that's the real role of the vice presidency. It's not

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Speaker 3: you know, the Sarah Palin effect of make my ticket

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting in this context, assuming the list

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Speaker 1: is correct and we all know that you have to

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Speaker 1: put in those caveats. I agree with you. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Trump has actually made up his mind. Marco Rubio

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Speaker 1: would be Hey, there's a real play to be made

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Speaker 1: for Hispanic voters. I'm going to try to bring him in.

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Speaker 1: Three black guys on this list. Senator Tim Scott Ben

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Speaker 1: but if he picks a black vice president, to me,

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Speaker 1: this is indicative of what I believe Trump thinks, which

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Speaker 1: is black men are in play, which is why I've

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Speaker 1: said I think he's going to pick Tim Scott. Because

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Speaker 1: of this list, Tim Scott, Ben Carson, and Byron Donalds.

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Speaker 1: I would say that Tim Scott is the most vetted,

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Speaker 1: meaning there's not really anything new. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: don't think there's some major bombshell story about him. Would

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Speaker 1: you want Tim Scott of that list to be president again?

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Speaker 1: Under the theory that I outlined or the possibility of,

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Speaker 1: chemo two years a horrible but I'm you know, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, theoretical, this is the reason for a vice president?

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Speaker 3: Is this right? It's not your buddy on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 3: it's to take over. In case of would you want

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott on that list to be the guy who

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Speaker 1: It's an excellent question of the list of eight, who

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Speaker 1: I think Marco Rubio be a good president. I thought

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Speaker 1: know Trump sliced and diced him, but he sliced and

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Speaker 3: I think Marco's learned too. I think that he's somebody who,

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Speaker 3: you know, look, running against Trump is essentially a political

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Speaker 3: think that Marco's you know, he's stronger for the process,

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Speaker 1: I think Doug Bergham, because he's had super high level

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Speaker 1: him on a national political scale. I like Byron Donald's

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Speaker 1: next week. Still very young, Elie Stephonic very young in

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Speaker 1: Who do I think would be if God forbid something

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Speaker 1: I think would be better? Look, I like a lot

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Speaker 1: of these names on this list more than I like

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence. Be honest with you. Mike Pence, by the way,

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Speaker 1: won't come on the show anymore. Mike Pence now has

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Speaker 1: gotten around buck to saying, oh, the prosecutions of Trump

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Speaker 1: are awful. He wouldn't say it when he was running

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Speaker 1: I just I'm not a huge Mike Pence is a

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Speaker 1: at least no, you were saying, do I think that

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Speaker 1: the Pence selection in sixteen in terms of like.

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Speaker 3: This time that's for?

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Speaker 4: Damn?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I like all of these options

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Speaker 1: better than I like Mike Pence as the pick in sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand Pence was the pick because Trump had

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Speaker 1: issues with evangelical voters. They didn't necessarily treat him. He

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Speaker 1: needed to give a sign that he recognized their concern.

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Speaker 1: Conservatives were not necessarily in the Trump camp if you

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Speaker 1: But I do think again three black guys of the

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Speaker 1: who's the best fundraiser on this list? Maybe there's not

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Speaker 1: the VP role is to be an attack dog. It's

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Speaker 1: see on this list at all is anybody who expands

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Speaker 1: the field. There's no Glenn Youngkin, for instance, candidate where

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Speaker 3: I actually think that that that makes sense insofar as

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yep, I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: And so you also, if you brought somebody who is

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Speaker 3: be about the economy, and the border, and at some

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Speaker 6: This whole way she has conducted this case is wildly, totally,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, she should I think she should dismiss this case

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Speaker 3: And we've also got Carol Markowitz in there, a whole

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Speaker 3: out and we'll take some of your end of show

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Speaker 3: calls here momentary. Actually, let's let's let's jump into that.

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Speaker 3: Christy in Colorado. What have you got for us? Christie?

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Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to let you know, first of all,

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Speaker 4: I have so much respect for the entire greatest generation

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Speaker 4: of no matter which theater they fought in. Now that said,

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Speaker 4: I do think it's really important to talk about the

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Speaker 4: men that came in on the beaches. But the paratroopers

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Speaker 4: that my grandfather was in the eighty second and one

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Speaker 4: Hunter and First they all jumped at the same time,

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Speaker 4: that's really important to mention them because they're not always mentioned.

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Speaker 4: But the reason they went in first was to try

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Speaker 4: to secure the area because the Nazis were already occupying

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Speaker 4: Saint Mary Lee and some other French town than bridges

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Speaker 4: and stuff. So long story short, my grandfather, Major of

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Speaker 4: Frederick Kellum, first Battalion, a Company five oh fifth pr

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Speaker 4: He and his men were the only ones that landed

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Speaker 4: the bad weather. Now it was not their objective. However,

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Speaker 4: they went to Saint Mary, Greece and took that town first,

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Speaker 4: and my granddad picked one of his troops that spoke

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Speaker 4: French to go through the town and let the townspeople

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Speaker 4: know that the Americans were there, but be very very

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Speaker 4: all around, which they were quiet. So anyway, my granddad

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Speaker 4: Clice and thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred and first. Sorry cut you off

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Speaker 4: No, No, he was eighty second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but you sounded like you were about to

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Speaker 1: say one hundred first. I would encourage thank you for

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Speaker 1: the call everybody out there. Band of Brothers is a

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Speaker 1: not very long book. I know. They turned it into

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Speaker 1: a mini series on HBO. If you have the time

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Speaker 1: Steven Ambrose's book Band of Brothers, what she is talking

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Speaker 1: about her grandfather, This is one of the most remarkable things.

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Speaker 1: When the Band of Brothers, I believe one hundred and

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Speaker 1: first airborne. I'm not an expert on this particular part

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Speaker 1: of history, but I have read the book Buck. Most

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Speaker 1: of those guys had never been in an airplane. The

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Speaker 1: very first time they went in an airplane, they jumped

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Speaker 1: out of it. Well, whoever you are right now listening

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Speaker 1: to us, think about how brave you have to the

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Speaker 1: first time you ever walked on an airplane when you

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Speaker 1: were five or six years old, or fifty or sixty

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Speaker 1: or however old you were. Can you imagine the very

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Speaker 1: first time you went up in the sky jumping out

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Speaker 1: of it. That's what those guys did, and the story.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, i'd encourage you to read the book,

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Speaker 1: but if you watch the movie or the television series,

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Speaker 1: you see what all those men were jumping into in

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Speaker 1: the Band of Brothers television show, which I think did

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Speaker 1: a really good job of kind of giving you an

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Speaker 1: idea of what that visual would have been like for

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Speaker 1: so many of those guys. And they landed in very

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Speaker 1: different places because so many people were getting shot at

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Speaker 1: weather was rough, they were jumping with immense amounts of

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Speaker 1: weight in their packs. If you had buck, given that

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Speaker 1: it's the eightieth anniversary, if you had to tell one

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Speaker 1: suggested book or television show for maybe kids or grandkids

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Speaker 1: out there that aren't that familiar with World War Two?

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Speaker 1: What would you suggest to the AFE so maybe the

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Speaker 1: audience it just hasn't read.

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, there's there's so many and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that a really good place to start would

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Speaker 3: be Keegan's one volume of the Second World War. If

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Speaker 3: you just want an overview, I think Hegan's First World

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Speaker 3: War and his Second World War histories are really excellent.

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Speaker 3: If you're talking about a show now in the Pacific Theater,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've actually read more about the Pacific

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Speaker 3: Theater all in than I have the European Theater. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: also what's the There's there's Eugene Sledge his autobiography, there's

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Speaker 3: With the Old Breed, and there's Oh Helmet from My

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Speaker 3: Pillow is the other one, and they kind of combined

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Speaker 3: those for the Pacific the HBO show The Pacific. They

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Speaker 3: had elements of both of those autobiographies, if memory serves, so.

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Speaker 1: Those are really good.

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Speaker 3: I actually think Letters from Iwo Jima is very interesting

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Speaker 3: that Clint Eastwood. I know it's from the Japanese perspective,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't hold anything back and it's I think

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Speaker 3: that's a very interesting and kind of under watched World

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Speaker 3: War two movie. I found the thin ren Line kind

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Speaker 3: of meandering and disappointing and a little self important, just

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Speaker 3: to be totally frank, so I'm not a thin ren

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Speaker 3: Line person. Stalingrad is excellent an Enemy at the Gates.

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Speaker 3: I think they do a pretty good job in that

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Speaker 3: carnage and everything that was going on.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know that's Nazis fighting the Soviets, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: talking World War two stuff. How about you? What's top

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Speaker 3: of the World War two? Saving Private Ryan is the

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Speaker 3: best movie of all time I think of war probably period,

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Speaker 3: and Band of Brothers is probably the best show.

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Speaker 1: Right about war. Yeah, but I would say two books

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Speaker 1: that are relatively easy reads, both by Steven Ambrose. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned Band of Brothers, which is what the show is

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Speaker 1: based on. If your kids are not great readers, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can get them in through the television show. But

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Speaker 1: D Day June sixth, nineteen four four, which I believe

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Speaker 1: came out on the fiftieth anniversary basically of D Day,

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Speaker 1: also by Steven Ambrose, is a pretty incredible read as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm well versed in Civil War. I read both of those,

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed them. They were not complicated, they were not overwhelming,

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Speaker 1: and most ages I think could read them if.

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Speaker 3: You want something that Again, we're talking World War two

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Speaker 3: genre and not necessarily the specifics of America and the

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Speaker 3: European theater. It's in German, but it actually makes it

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Speaker 3: far more. It kind of hits harder because of that Downfall.

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Speaker 3: It's a German language movie about Hitler in the Bunker.

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Speaker 3: Now many of you will have seen there are memes

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Speaker 3: the movie where essentially Hitler's top generals are like it's over, dude,

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Speaker 3: like we've lost, you know, and he goes completely nuts.

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Speaker 3: And people do this with like their sports team that

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Speaker 3: they're upset about or whatever. But that comes from the

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Speaker 3: movie Downfall, which is is an excellent World War two movie.

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Speaker 3: For what it is, I can highly recommend. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's bleak. You know, it's Hitler in the bunker.

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Speaker 3: But the guy who plays Hitler, I mean he looks

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Speaker 3: and sounds just like Hitler. I mean, the whole thing

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Speaker 3: is pretty Do you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know one hundred percent. The meme you're

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Speaker 1: talking about is everywhere anytime something goes bad, they like

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Speaker 1: meme it with Hitler, like throwing a fit from that movie.

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Speaker 1: The other one I was gonna recommend Patten. Patten is

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Speaker 1: a you know, sort of an old George C. Scott

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Speaker 1: with a huge American flag behind him. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Patten's life well enough to know how historically accurate it is,

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Speaker 1: so sometimes we get blown up people like that's not so.

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Speaker 1: The movie itself is incredibly entertaining. I'm not an expert

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Speaker 1: that that movie is so well done.

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Speaker 3: You know another one that I think is underappreciated for

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Speaker 3: what it was Defiance with Daniel Craig I thought was good,

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Speaker 3: and another one I thought Hacksaw Ridge was incredible. I

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Speaker 3: didn't think I was going to like it, and I

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Speaker 3: And then it's you've seen it, right.

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Speaker 1: I've not seen it.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy. You and the boys should watch.

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Speaker 1: Saw I'm literally writing it down right now.

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Speaker 3: Hacksaw Ridge, and just trust me, don't bail in the beginning.

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Speaker 3: It's a little weird. You're like, what am I even

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Speaker 3: watch Hacksaw Ridge. It is one of the best World

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Speaker 3: War Two movies I have ever seen. So check that

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Speaker 3: one out.

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Speaker 1: I just wrote it down. I'm gonna check it out,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: There you go, everybody more tomorrow