WEBVTT - HR1: Solid Chance 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:04.480 At least. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.080 He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.240 your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.600 Gold Steelers. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:19.079 Nation Radio, and welcome to the Drive. The sun is 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.720 shining here in Pittsburgh. There's still snow in the ground, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.759 but there's starting sun out there, starting them out a 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.560 little bit. Steelers are practicing down at Akroshuer Stadium again 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.640 today as they prepare for their Sunday or Saturday night matchup. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.960 Why would I say Sunday. They never play on Aday. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:40.639 Sunday, y are Saturday night matchup against the Baltimore Ravens. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:46.400 And news out of Baltimore today John Harbaugh declaring that 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.800 Zay Flowers will not play in this game against the 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.640 Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.760 I think it's huge, something we suspected all week obviously. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.640 Until he said it. Yeah, I just didn't know. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:55.800 Ye. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.920 I thought I might hold out, hope, game time decision, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.000 one of those kind of nonsense. But he hadn't practic. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.600 This didn't look good when it happened, and I think 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.920 there's a lot of ramifications for them. I mean, he's 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.760 their quick game guy, he's their best wide out and 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.160 just the way the Steelers secondary is constructed. I think 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.120 it fits well with their pass catchers. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.880 Now, yeah, I think everybody's forgetting that. For the second 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.319 game in Baltimore this year, you didn't have Deshaun Elliott, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.920 you didn't have Dante Jackson, and Joey Porter Junior got 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:23.720 hurt in the middle of that. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.480 Game, right, they were on fumes in the secondary, yeah, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:27.120 the least, right. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.000 So it has a trickle down effect the whole way 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.759 across this And if you look back at that first game, 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.600 Lamar Jackson completed forty eight point five percent of his passes, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.839 six point three yards per attempt, one touchdown, one interception, 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.520 a passer rating of sixty six point one, which has 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.840 been what he has done against the Steelers over the 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.440 course of his career. The outlier was the next meeting, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.000 when he completed sixty five point two percent of his passes, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.800 average nine yards per pass attempt, had three touchdowns, and 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.000 posted a one to fifteen point four passer rating against 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.200 a secondary that was missing basically for two and a half, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.160 you know, two and a half starters basically the yah. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.640 Yeah, And honestly, by Lamar's standards this year, that second 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.239 game wasn't him shredding, blow it off right, right, and 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.160 it wasn't his best game of the year or anything now, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.320 not even close. We've talked about this week, and I 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.760 think it's really what works out well. Considering Bateman's a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.119 good player. I mean, I really liked him coming out 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.360 of Minnesota. He's had some injuries. Instead of picking up 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.640 their fifth year option, they extended him a year. They 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.799 liked them, they didn't want him getting away, and they've 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.880 used him as a deep threat more than I expected 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.480 this year, you know, I mean, because Flowers is stepuisator 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.680 and yeah, yeah, I mean they usually don't have a 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.320 third receiver on the field, so kind of by default, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.320 he's kind of your go guy. But he has some 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.320 physicality to him. But I think Porter matches up really 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.680 really well on him, you know, I mean just stylistically, talents, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.200 you know, all those type of things. And then you 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.760 mentioned Elliott not being around the first go round. Minka 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:01.840 was asked to do a lot of different stuff during 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.840 that stretch and he's very capable. But Elliott is really 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.520 good against the run. For one thing. I mean, I 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.239 think we know that he's a glue guy. He's a communicator, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.600 which has been a problem in the last month or so. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.880 But I like my chances with Elliott and Minka against 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.680 Likelye and Andrews in any way, shape or form however 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.000 that works out. And then that leaves you a lot 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.640 of I'm not saying they'll never be safeties over the 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.720 top or you're gonna be playing cover zero all day, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.320 but I bet they're aggressive with their coverages and that 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.120 allows you a lot of more the box. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.800 Yeah, put more in the box to dedicate it to 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.920 stopping the run. Yeah, I looked it up today, Matt. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:43.000 The receivers on wide receivers on Baltimore's team, Yeah, currently 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.960 right now who are not named Zay Flowers and Rashad 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.080 Bateman twenty seven. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:50.600 Catches this year. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:51.720 That doesn't surprise him. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.960 Twenty seven catches. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.640 Yeah, And other than Aguilar, they've never really had career 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:56.360 success either. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:56.480 Ye. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.840 I mean they're a bunch of unknowns. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.280 And even Aguilar's career successes. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.720 And he was a former first round pick, but he 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.800 hasn't been good a lot of this. I don't think Philadelphia, 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.960 I don't think you love him playing a ton No. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.360 I assume he'll be there too, though, could be Tolem Wallace. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.960 Could be maybe they just have a rotation going or 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.480 different packages or whatever. But I don't think you're gona 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:17.800 see three of them on the field very much, Not 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.800 very much, I wouldn't. I mean you're leaving a good 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.159 player and likely or Ricard or Cool or whoever off 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.279 the field, if that's your approach. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.240 Yeah, it certainly shrinks what Baltimore can do. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.440 Not that they play a lot of eleven personnel to 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.720 begin with, but but. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.320 They can throw it, and you know right now that limits. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.599 Them, you know, and the guys that are still going 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:37.200 to put on the field. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.080 It's not like they're not there's not some good players there, right, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.160 but they don't have they don't have that speed element. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.640 With with the playmate they had their playmaking. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.560 I should say they have the speed element, But do 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.600 you trust the speed element as much as you do 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:51.760 with Jay Flowers, right? 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.159 I mean he's going the Pro Bowls here, he's an 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.400 as sending player. Teams have been attacking the Steelers by 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.240 getting it out quick. I would think he'd be your 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.120 top target for that. You know, quick hitters near the 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.719 line of scrimmage, get open immediately, scheme them up through 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.560 motion whatever. Yeah, Andrews and likely are good players too, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.200 but I think the Steeler safeties can do fair enough 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:11.720 against them. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:16.279 And remember Andrews in his first ten games against the Steelers, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.159 in his first ten games, yeah, the eleventh one was 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.120 the last one that they played, had zero touchdown catches 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:28.560 against the Steelers, none, zero, zilch na. Now he did 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.919 have a touchdown catch in the second meeting when the 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.680 Steelers were missing three starters in the same Yeah, it's 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.560 just a huge It makes them so much easier to defend. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.560 Yeah, I think it's just the way that the Steelers 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.640 are set up and the way that the Ravens are 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.880 set up. That'd be one of the guys you'd want 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.400 to pluck out of their lineup, maybe ahead of Andrews, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.680 maybe ahead of any of the offensive lineman, you know, I. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.960 Mean pretty much ahead of anybody, but Derrick Henry or 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:54.760 Lamar Bokson. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.599 I think so, just because they're so weak there, which 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.000 is why they traded for Deontay Johnson that didn't work out. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.360 But they recognize we don't have a lot of man beaters, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.520 we don't have a lot of quick hitter type guys. Yeah. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.599 The other thing people forget about that first game against 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.920 the Ravens was no George Pickens for the Steelers, right, right, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:10.480 so they. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.720 Were I mean, Porter and Pickens are really hard to replace. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:13.960 Yeah, nobody. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.040 I mean, as you're seeing, we've heard this all season 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.760 long with the Steelers. I can't believe they didn't go 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.120 get a second wide receiver. They needed a second wide receiver. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.920 Baltimore is in the same boat. Yeah, yeah, Now Bateman 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.080 is you'd love that baby coming into this, right, you 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.680 didn't know what Bateman was, no, right, I mean later 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:32.760 shown anything like this. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.240 No, it's definitely his best year. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.440 But even at that, he has forty five catches this year. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.599 You know, he's not like he's you know, I. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.400 Think he had three or four last week, and then 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.599 he had one and one the two weeks before that. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.880 You know, I mean he's not a secondary over and 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.520 over and over, right, and frankly, I think Porter is 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.040 the better player. I mean, yeah, I know the Steelers 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.360 secondary is not the strength of the team, but boy 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.320 would I challenge them this week, Like, we're not even 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.360 putting safeties over the top to help you guys. You know, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.400 the three of you two safeties and even Jackson versus Aguilar, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.080 the four of you are going to take their four 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.760 top receivers and yeah, we'll help you some, but there's 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.720 any times we're not, you know, And that's the way 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.440 it's gonna go, you know. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.280 And I would look at this, yeah and say, look, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.680 if we're not gonna let Bateman beat us, we're not 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.040 gonna let the two tight ends beat us. We're gonna 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.680 try not to let the quarterback and the running back 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.680 beat us. If one of those other if Tyler Wallace 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.760 beats you or Nelson Aga beat you, it's just not 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:30.200 your day. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.240 Yeah, so be it right. Yeah, again, Kohler doesn't even 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.200 touch the ball. Ricard doesn't even touch the ball. They're 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.200 there blockers, their guards in motion and chip guys. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.160 That's the other thing here, Matt, Like, okay, so you 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.080 take you take those seventy plus catches out of the lineup, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:49.040 thousand plus yards out of the lineup. They only play, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.480 I mean they largely play in in you know, twenty 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.480 two or twenty you know, twenty one personnel. It there's 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.400 there's two tight ends, a fullback and a running back 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.960 on the field lot a lot. So now you're taking 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.680 that outside weapon away, you know, from that the guy 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.920 that can actually you know when you're playing in that 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.040 formation or with that grouping, who actually can scare the 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.080 Bejesus out of a defense, Because if you miss a 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.480 tackle on Zay Flowers and he's shifty, yeah he can. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.520 He can get a player, he can make a big 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.240 play against you. We're kind of taking some of that away. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.640 Bateman's not a run after the catch guy, No, not 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.480 so much. No, he's a move the chains can get 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.400 over the top. But he's not a super burner either. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.840 I mean, despite his long ones, it's the physicality down 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.640 the field or a lot of times with him, it's 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.880 because he's wide open singles. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.040 Yeah, right, play action and take a shot to him. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.880 And again he's evolving, but he's not close to a one. Yeah. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.840 And he's a very different type of player than Flower. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.640 So again it makes them much easier to defend in 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.320 this game and your at full strength, right. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.920 I do think the health stuff is certainly in the 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.040 Steelers favor, especially on that side of the ball too. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.360 Now that doesn't mean you can get Henry on the 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.880 ground or Lamar on the ground or or if you 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.200 blitz Lamar, and I hope they do, because he's a 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.680 heavily blitzed player and he handles it well. He handles 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.080 everything well now, but I want to get hits on him. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.439 I wanted to force the ball out of his hand. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.120 I was worried about dropping guys. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.880 Here's what you know, I think in the second meeting, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.400 because they were so they were down so many players 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.520 in the secondary. You get James Pierre out there, you 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.800 have Corey Treis, you know, Cam Sutton's out there a 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.840 lot that. 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.640 The Suttons and Beanies probably won't play hardly at all, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:31.800 much at all. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:32.280 In this game. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.160 And I think because you were kind of you know, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.520 you just didn't have your guys back there, you're more 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.360 concerned about Lamar beating you over the top at least 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.920 early in the game than you are maybe stopping Derrick Henry. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.040 Yeah. Yeah, and again I'm sure burn the boats, you know, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.319 I mean, they're gonna we don't need to play a 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.280 conservative cover three shell over and over, because what we 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.320 got to lose. You know, we're not playing to live 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.560 another day. We're on the road. We're a dog. We 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.360 got some serious playmakers in the run game and a 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.880 really good quarterback. Let's do everything we can to make 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.840 life difficult on him. You know, because he doesn't have 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:07.480 a go to. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.320 Guy, doesn't have as much as Andrews has been the 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.760 Woodbee over the years, Flowers has kind of been. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:15.520 He's really important. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.880 He's the first receiver in their history that they have 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.280 drafted who made Pro Bowl. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.400 And is that crazy? I mean, like all their good 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.280 ones have been like Bolden, Steve Smith, Mason that they've recycled, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.400 and I'm not sure any of them were great. I mean, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.560 they're not exactly known as a throat all over the place, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.360 you know, franchise, but that is pretty crazy. It's a 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.680 good organization. Only one drafted receiver go to the Pro Yeah, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:38.920 those aren't hard. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:39.640 To come, No, they're not. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.200 Yeah, I mean again three receivers in the AFC North 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:48.240 made addition, which is what it is. But I just 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.000 think that's a massive, massive blow to the Ravens. Not 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.800 sure they've been you know, they've prepared all long, like, hey, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.080 we're probably not going to have him, but you hold 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.880 out hope until the last minute. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.280 And you know, do we know any Justice Hill stuff. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.000 Do we think he plays? He's going to be back here, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:09.079 I assume. So now this sounds crazy, but he's a playmaker, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.719 you know, Mitchell's a playmaker, but that means you take 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.800 Henry off the field, right, Like, do they want to 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.320 get some easy completions to backs? I mean just trying 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.080 to look. I'm trying to think how they would think 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.360 without Flowers. I'm not going to trot out I'm definitely 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.040 not going to try it out a third receiver. No, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.280 who are my other pass catchers? Of course, I'm going 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.240 to try to feature Likely and Andrews. And if I'm 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.520 in their shoes, I might be like, Okay, those Steeler 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.320 safeties are pretty good, but our tight ends are equally good. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.200 We're going to go toe to toe with those guys 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.880 and we hope we win that matchup, but they might. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.120 You know, here's a thing, though, You're starting to throw 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.600 the ball around Minka, And that's the one thing that 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.959 did go well for the Steelers last time, is to 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.720 make a picked one off against you know, because Lamar 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.440 as good of a passer as he is, and I 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.040 think he's gotten so much better at this, he still 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.600 will overthrow a receiver every once. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.480 Sure, sure guy too. I keep going back to tips 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.200 and things like that too. I mean, I think you 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.719 can get your cam does every game. I mean I 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.200 feel like you can get your hands on the ball, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.440 whether it's Dee Liman or Pbu's on the back end 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.240 at some point in this game. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.560 Yeah, I'm kind of surprised. I just looked before we 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.360 started the show, and of course the news here on 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.920 Flowers has been out now for a couple of hours. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.080 I wanted to see if that had moved the line 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.400 at all, and it. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.640 Really has assumed. Vegas assumed he was going. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.040 To be out, which is surprising to me because the 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.719 first meeting, the Steelers didn't have Pickens and they were 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.640 missing again some guys in the secondary and Ogunjobi as well, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.280 and that one was seven points. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:42.880 You're telling me, I. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.559 Don't know, Joby, the mix is not is not nothing either, no, right, yeah, yeah. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.200 So you're telling me. What you're telling me over what 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.200 Vegas is saying from that line to this one is 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.160 that if Za Flowers were playing, the Ravens will be 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.680 eleven or twelve point favorites. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.520 I don't exactly know how that worked. I mean, I 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.319 just know that they want equal people. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.679 Be their offensive. Pickens is to the Steelers offense. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:11.000 I'd say close. Yeah, I see you're saying. I just 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.160 think that the general public. Joe Blow from Omaha or 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.720 Seattle or whatever. This says, Boy, the Steelers are sliding 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:17.920 and the Ravens are I. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.240 Mean, we've been talking about this, this Flowers thing all week. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.959 I don't know that I've heard or seen a lot 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.800 of other final. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.640 Saying about this. I mean, I listen to a lot 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.760 of podcasts, I read, I got a bunch of different 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.000 sites every day, and I don't think people realize or 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.720 at least yet the ramifications of, you know, why what 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.200 happens with him being out again? 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.800 The rest of their receivers, all of them, Yeah, had 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:46.559 twenty seven catches not named Bateman or Flowers, like you 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:47.880 don't even they barely play. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.880 And it's so much different than like the Bengals, you know, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.000 where it'd be like Higgins are Chas being out, yeah 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.480 to a degree, just because. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.600 But they've got you a Cybus who's a decent player. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thinking about the Steelers being one 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:09.080 really strong man corner where Bateman might be an issue 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.560 for them if Flowers was out there or I don't 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.360 think Porter would probably even line up on Flowers. Maybe 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:15.480 it'd still be on Bateman. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.400 He did the for the first time problem. In the 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.600 first game they put Porter on Bateman. Yeah, yeah, he 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.840 matched up much more his style. Bateman had two catches 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.120 in the game for like thirty yards. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.120 It's kind of like Hagen's worth chase and. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.920 Then they and then they you know, or the other 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.480 thing you know with Okay, we're just gonna double Flowers, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.840 and Flowers really didn't hurt them much in that game. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.680 Approach without doubling him. Yeah, you know, double the new 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.720 guy and then you're pretty good shape. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.280 Yeah. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.400 So again, I think it has a massive trickle down 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.200 effect in this game. And yeah, I don't know that 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.320 it's being talked about him though. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.880 Agree, and I do expect the Steelers to have a 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.880 lot of big people on the field. I mean, you're 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.160 gonna have Roberts, you're gonna have Bent, and you're gonna 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.160 have your base three four. Wouldn't shock me if you 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.120 saw a third outside linebacker out there at times, you. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.680 Know, all three inside backers just yeah, yeah, you know 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.200 whatever you're going to do there. But again, if they're 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.760 going to come out with with two tight ends or 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.480 two tight ends, a full back, yeah, and a running back, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.880 that's four eligibles right there. They've only got one receiver 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.520 on the field. Yeah, and we're playing with one cornerback. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.160 A lot of times I would say that would be 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.400 play the Steeler strengths. Honestly, yeah, I'd be very fine 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.800 with that. Like I'm sure people do not count Recard 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.560 the same as they count Mitchell or you can't. I mean, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.160 if you catch all season touch the ball, you know, right, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:31.760 he's a guard. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.640 Coler barely touches the ball. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.480 Yeah, I mean he's I mean again, if these guys, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.400 if these are the guys that beat you, so. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.120 I mean, they may catch a touch I mean, Coler 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.760 might catch a short touchdown or a first down, or 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.480 Recard picks up a fourth and. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.200 One, you know, but they're not they're not found. They're 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.280 not found. They're not passing game. No, they're not going 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.200 to feature those guys at all. It's like you know, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.360 throwing the ball to Michael Pruet or something. You know, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:16:00.400 that's okay, Yeah, every once in a while works, yeah, right, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.080 But by and large, I mean no, those aren't NFL playmakers. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.320 They're out there to create matchup or create blocking angles, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.440 be physical on the move lineman, and you you dug 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.480 up a great stat on those two players. In particular crazy. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.520 I mean when they're on the field. Yeah, when Coler, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.840 when Cohler and Ricard on the field together, the Ravens 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.080 run the ball eighty eight percent of eighty eight. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.520 Yeah, that goes back to this year and last year combined. Yeah, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.680 Like there's a lot of numbers out there of Cohlers 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.080 on the field. They're run percentages like well over sixty. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.080 The cards are in the fields well over sixty. Now 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.720 that's not totally shocking. And sometimes they're up by twenty 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.840 late in the game and they just run horses and am. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.800 But when they're both on the field they're running the ball, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.920 have a sign back behind Lamar, it goes, we're running 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.560 the football here. Now stopping it's a different story, right, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.560 you know it can be Lamar getting the ball. Use 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.480 a much different ball carrier than Henry. Those guys are 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.480 good blockers too. They can dig out watch their high 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.760 smith or even why they're out to lineman, right, I 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.240 mean they're three hundred pound card. I mean they can 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.960 take on on the land and Roberts in the hole. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.720 There are many people that can do that type of thing. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.080 And we did a show with Rob King today too, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.359 and he mentioned you know you love to get penetration 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.360 on Henry. I mean, you don't want him to get 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.760 his feet started. Yeah, but they know that too, you know, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.560 so they run a lot of traps. They let you 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.879 come upfield and they wham you from the side. You know, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.320 they know what you're trying to do too. You know, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.000 They're running game is very diverse. Yeah. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.359 Absolutely, But again I think that's just massive piece of 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.159 news today that comes out. Again, the Steelers relatively healthy 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.080 for this one. We're going to take a break when 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.280 we come back. We've got a special guest coming on. Yeah. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:38.760 Yeah. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.560 Marcus Mosher from the thirty third team also does some 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.840 work with Matt on we record a podcast. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.040 Ye yeah, but he's going to join us. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.680 He made his NFL picks for the playoff games. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.239 It's pretty much right. It's like an article of day 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.760 I've noticed for thirty three third team. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.040