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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Nation Radio, and welcome to the Drive. The sun is

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Speaker 3: shining here in Pittsburgh. There's still snow in the ground,

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Speaker 3: but there's starting sun out there, starting them out a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Steelers are practicing down at Akroshuer Stadium again

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Speaker 3: today as they prepare for their Sunday or Saturday night matchup.

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Speaker 4: Why would I say Sunday. They never play on Aday.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, y are Saturday night matchup against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: And news out of Baltimore today John Harbaugh declaring that

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Speaker 3: Zay Flowers will not play in this game against the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's huge, something we suspected all week obviously.

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Speaker 3: Until he said it. Yeah, I just didn't know.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 1: I thought I might hold out, hope, game time decision,

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Speaker 1: one of those kind of nonsense. But he hadn't practic.

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Speaker 1: This didn't look good when it happened, and I think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of ramifications for them. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: their quick game guy, he's their best wide out and

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Speaker 1: just the way the Steelers secondary is constructed. I think

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Speaker 1: it fits well with their pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think everybody's forgetting that. For the second

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Speaker 3: game in Baltimore this year, you didn't have Deshaun Elliott,

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Speaker 3: you didn't have Dante Jackson, and Joey Porter Junior got

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Speaker 1: Game, right, they were on fumes in the secondary, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So it has a trickle down effect the whole way

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Speaker 3: across this And if you look back at that first game,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson completed forty eight point five percent of his passes,

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Speaker 3: six point three yards per attempt, one touchdown, one interception,

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Speaker 3: a passer rating of sixty six point one, which has

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Speaker 3: been what he has done against the Steelers over the

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Speaker 3: course of his career. The outlier was the next meeting,

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Speaker 3: when he completed sixty five point two percent of his passes,

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Speaker 3: average nine yards per pass attempt, had three touchdowns, and

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Speaker 3: posted a one to fifteen point four passer rating against

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, by Lamar's standards this year, that second

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Speaker 1: game wasn't him shredding, blow it off right, right, and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't his best game of the year or anything now,

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Speaker 1: not even close. We've talked about this week, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's really what works out well. Considering Bateman's a

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Speaker 1: good player. I mean, I really liked him coming out

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Speaker 1: this year, you know, I mean, because Flowers is stepuisator

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Speaker 1: he's kind of your go guy. But he has some

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Speaker 1: physicality to him. But I think Porter matches up really

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Speaker 1: that stretch and he's very capable. But Elliott is really

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Speaker 1: good against the run. For one thing. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: which has been a problem in the last month or so.

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Speaker 1: But I like my chances with Elliott and Minka against

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Speaker 1: of I'm not saying they'll never be safeties over the

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Speaker 1: but I bet they're aggressive with their coverages and that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put more in the box to dedicate it to

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Speaker 3: stopping the run. Yeah, I looked it up today, Matt.

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Speaker 3: The receivers on wide receivers on Baltimore's team, Yeah, currently

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Speaker 4: Catches this year.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise him.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven catches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And other than Aguilar, they've never really had career

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Speaker 1: I mean they're a bunch of unknowns.

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Speaker 4: And even Aguilar's career successes.

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Speaker 1: And he was a former first round pick, but he

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Speaker 1: Could be maybe they just have a rotation going or

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly shrinks what Baltimore can do.

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Speaker 3: Not that they play a lot of eleven personnel to

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Speaker 1: They can throw it, and you know right now that limits.

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Speaker 4: Them, you know, and the guys that are still going

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Speaker 3: It's not like they're not there's not some good players there, right,

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Speaker 4: With with the playmate they had their playmaking.

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Speaker 3: I should say they have the speed element, But do

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Speaker 1: I mean he's going the Pro Bowls here, he's an

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Speaker 3: And remember Andrews in his first ten games against the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: just a huge It makes them so much easier to defend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just the way that the Steelers

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Speaker 1: I think so, just because they're so weak there, which

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Speaker 3: The other thing people forget about that first game against

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Speaker 1: Were I mean, Porter and Pickens are really hard to replace.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as you're seeing, we've heard this all season

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Speaker 3: Baltimore is in the same boat. Yeah, yeah, Now Bateman

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Speaker 3: didn't know what Bateman was, no, right, I mean later

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Speaker 1: No, it's definitely his best year.

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Speaker 3: But even at that, he has forty five catches this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's not like he's you know, I.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean he's not a secondary over and

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Speaker 3: And I would look at this, yeah and say, look,

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Speaker 3: if we're not gonna let Bateman beat us, we're not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so be it right. Yeah, again, Kohler doesn't even

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing here, Matt, Like, okay, so you

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Speaker 3: take you take those seventy plus catches out of the lineup,

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Speaker 3: I mean they largely play in in you know, twenty

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Speaker 3: tackle on Zay Flowers and he's shifty, yeah he can.

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Speaker 3: He can get a player, he can make a big

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Speaker 3: Bateman's not a run after the catch guy, No, not

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Speaker 3: so much. No, he's a move the chains can get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, play action and take a shot to him.

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Speaker 1: And again he's evolving, but he's not close to a one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he's a very different type of player than Flower.

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Speaker 3: So again it makes them much easier to defend in

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Speaker 3: this game and your at full strength, right.

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Speaker 1: I do think the health stuff is certainly in the

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Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean you can get Henry on the

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Speaker 1: everything well now, but I want to get hits on him.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to force the ball out of his hand.

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Speaker 3: Here's what you know, I think in the second meeting,

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Speaker 3: And I think because you were kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: Don't know, Joby, the mix is not is not nothing either, no, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you're telling me. What you're telling me over what

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Speaker 3: The rest of their receivers, all of them, Yeah, had

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Speaker 4: He made his NFL picks for the playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Line by Marcus Moser from the thirty third Team. I

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Speaker 4: It Locked on, Locked On Dynasty?

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Speaker 1: Every Wednesday on Dynasty?

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Speaker 3: But we appreciate you dropping in here on the Drive

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Speaker 3: And I know you're you're a fellow eight one four

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Speaker 3: Did you guys not get all the snow and eerie?

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Speaker 3: But Marcus, you released your your picks as you do

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Speaker 3: Uh so your pick on the Steelers Ravens game. Let

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Speaker 3: us give our listeners an idea of what you picked

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Speaker 3: and why you picked that particular outcome.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you explain.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I feel like I'm the only person

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Speaker 5: that's picking Pittsburgh or even giving Pittsburgh a chance in

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Speaker 5: this game, and I don't quite understand why.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I know Pittsburgh has lost the last four games. I

444
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Speaker 5: know the Ravens have played really well over the last

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Speaker 5: four games, but these two teams always played really really

446
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Speaker 5: close games. And when you get into the playoffs and

447
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Speaker 5: it's a divisional matchup, I just would hate to lay

448
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Speaker 5: nine and a half ten points on a team that's

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Speaker 5: that's without their number one receiver. And I want to

450
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Speaker 5: go back to the previous game because I think a

451
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Speaker 5: lot of people are remembering that second game differently. The

452
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Speaker 5: Steelers did not have Dante Jackson. They lost Joey Porter

453
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Speaker 5: Junior early in that game. The Steelers rely so much

454
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Speaker 5: on their corners to be able to cover one on one,

455
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Speaker 5: so when you're without your top two guys, makes a

456
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Speaker 5: big difference. They'll have both of those guys this week,

457
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Speaker 5: and Jay Flowers is going to be and be out

458
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Speaker 5: in this one. We should mention George Pickens also didn't

459
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Speaker 5: play in that second matchup. It just feels like everything

460
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Speaker 5: is aligning this for the Steelers to make this game

461
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Speaker 5: way more competitive than anybody else that expects.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus, I love that you recognize that there was

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of circumstances for that game, you know, and

464
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Speaker 1: the Steelers are also in the midst as were the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Three games and eleven days a brutal stretch. They were

466
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Speaker 1: pretty banged up and they're kind of getting kicked while

467
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Speaker 1: they were down. But they're in a lot different spot

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Speaker 1: right now. As mentioned, you and I do a Dynasty show,

469
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Speaker 1: and you know, you're on top of all these skill

470
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Speaker 1: position players. What do you think they're missing in Zay Flowers?

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Speaker 1: You know, what's your quick profile of him?

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Speaker 5: I mean, somebody that can that can get open quickly.

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Speaker 5: They just don't have anybody else on the roster that

474
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Speaker 5: can win one on one, create quick separation to make

475
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Speaker 5: plays after the catch. Rashaan Batman's had a really good year.

476
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Speaker 5: He's this is the best he's played all year. But

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Speaker 5: he's not a number one receiver. He's a really good,

478
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Speaker 5: complimentary player. And I just if I'm if I'm looking

479
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Speaker 5: at this from a Baltimore perspective, how do they create

480
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Speaker 5: big chunk plays in the passing game without Jay Flowers

481
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Speaker 5: is going to be really hard. And I think what

482
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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin is going to do is continue to blitz

483
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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson at an absurd rate. He does it more

484
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Speaker 5: than any other defensive coordinator in the league. And Dare

485
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Speaker 5: Lamar who has been ship in the playoffs, and Lamar's

486
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Speaker 5: actually talked about this. He gets a little too eth

487
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Speaker 5: up for these games. Tried to complete passes down the

488
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Speaker 5: field that Rashad Bateman, Nelson Aguilar with Pittsburgh's healthy corners

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Speaker 5: back of the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they blitch him on early downs a lot too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: lots of.

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Speaker 5: Run blitzes, right, Yeah, to force them out of first

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Speaker 5: and second ound runs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know they even in the win in Baltimore,

495
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Speaker 3: Lamar had he had three touchdowns in an interception, but

496
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Speaker 3: it was if he only had like two hundred and

497
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Speaker 3: seven passing yards. And I think he had twenty two

498
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Speaker 3: rushing yards in that game. It wasn't a Lamar Lamar game,

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Speaker 3: So in the back of his mind it's not only

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Speaker 3: the playoff stuff that he has to deal with. But

501
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Speaker 3: he hasn't played well in his career against the Steelers either.

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Speaker 5: No, he has, and I do wonder if John Harbaugh

503
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Speaker 5: is Todd Monkey, just don't go back to a more

504
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Speaker 5: run heavy offense. And I think Pittsburgh knows that right

505
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Speaker 5: They know they have to stop Derrick Henry, but that

506
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Speaker 5: might be the best strategy for Baltimore is to use

507
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Speaker 5: more two tight end sets, get Isaya likely in the field,

508
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Speaker 5: and just try to keep this game close until Lamar

509
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Speaker 5: settles down a little bit. There's been plenty of quarterbacks

510
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Speaker 5: over NFL history that just take a couple quarters.

511
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Speaker 3: To get going.

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Speaker 5: They need to get hit, they need to have things

513
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Speaker 5: gonna slow down for them. I think Lamar is one

514
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Speaker 5: of those quarterbacks. I wouldn't be surprised if we have

515
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Speaker 5: like a Steve into six first half between Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh, which is right up the Steelers alley. For

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Speaker 1: a game like this, you exactly probably some sort of weather.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know the Steelers are going to be

519
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Speaker 1: aggressive physically, you know, with nothing to lose at this point,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned likely, we kind of assume at this

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Speaker 1: point they're a very light, you know, eleven personnel offense. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if we see a third receiver on

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Speaker 1: the field hardly at all. I mean, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: likely and Andrews. But those guys aren't your chippers against

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Speaker 1: what you know. I mean, that's gonna be Charlie Kohler,

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Speaker 1: which isn't a threat.

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Speaker 5: And actually Charlie Kohler's out in this game.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt last week.

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Speaker 5: So yes, it's probably gonna be Patrick Riccard. Like we

530
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Speaker 5: must see twenty two personnel in this game, and honestly,

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Speaker 5: that might be the best way to attack Pittsburgh anyways,

532
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Speaker 5: is try to load up, make Pittsburgh's defensive line have

533
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Speaker 5: to try to get off blocks.

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Speaker 1: And make tackles.

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Speaker 5: I will say, I think with Pittsburgh having such a

536
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Speaker 5: long losing streak in the playoffs, I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 5: if this is finally the playoff game where Mike Tomlin

538
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Speaker 5: unleashes a little bit. I don't think he can play

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Speaker 5: a conservative game plan and necessarily win this. This is

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Speaker 5: the healthiest he's been in the playoffs in the last

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Speaker 5: several years. Remember t J. Watt didn't play last year

542
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Speaker 5: year else Yeah, it's they're pretty much healthy from you know,

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Speaker 5: the team they had starting in October. I just wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be surprised if this is the game that Tomlin is

545
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Speaker 5: a little bit more aggressive than what we're used to seeing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you either have the the you know,

547
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Speaker 3: the weapons and everything, or you don't. And it is

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Speaker 3: interesting to to me at least, you know, I think back,

549
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Speaker 3: and I brought this up earlier in the week. I

550
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Speaker 3: think back to the twenty fourteen playoff game the Steelers

551
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Speaker 3: played against the Ravens where they had to win a

552
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Speaker 3: division in the final week of the season against the Bengals,

553
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Speaker 3: and so they played it to win it. Le'Veon Bell

554
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Speaker 3: gets hurt, and so they go into the game the

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Speaker 3: following week against the Ravens, who were the wild card team.

556
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Speaker 3: Ravens are healthy, the Steelers are missing Le'Veon Bell, who's

557
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Speaker 3: their best offensive weapon, and lo and behold, the Ravens

558
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Speaker 3: win that game. There's some correlation here between that and

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Speaker 3: you know what's going on with Flowers and.

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Speaker 5: The other thing I want to point out about this

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Speaker 5: game is it feels like the longer that Pittsburgh stays

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Speaker 5: in it, the better their chances are of winning. Because

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, but whenever I watch

564
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Speaker 5: Justin Tucker now, I expect him.

565
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Speaker 3: To miss, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I have the complete opposite feeling with Chris Boswell, like, hey,

567
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Speaker 5: get it inside the forty two yard line and that

568
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Speaker 5: kicks is going to be good. It doesn't matter if

569
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Speaker 5: it's raining or snowing or winny. He is so clutch.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's gonna have to factor into how

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Speaker 5: the Ravens play this. I don't think they want to

572
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Speaker 5: play a game where they have to rely on their

573
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Speaker 5: defense to make a stop or Justin Tucker to make

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Speaker 5: a fifty yard field goal. So again, I think if

575
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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh can keep this game close going into the fourth quarter,

576
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Speaker 5: they're gonna have a great chance of stealing it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just everybody knows.

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Speaker 3: Your prediction in the game score was Steelers twenty, Ravens nineteen,

579
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Speaker 3: So you're expecting that kind of game.

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Speaker 5: It's probably the only way Pittsburgh can win, right. But

581
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Speaker 5: the good news for this in.

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Speaker 1: The thirties, I don't love their chances, right.

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Speaker 5: No, No, Pittsburgh excels at playing twenty to nineteen games

584
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Speaker 5: like Mike Tomlin loves it. And I do think that

585
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Speaker 5: Baltimore has a tendancy, especially in the first playoff game,

586
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Speaker 5: to be a little tight, and the longer that they

587
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Speaker 5: stay tight and the fewer big plays they create down

588
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Speaker 5: the field, I just think gonna get more anxious for

589
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Speaker 5: them as the game goes on.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the special team slash kicker advantage,

591
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Speaker 1: but Steelers have been really strong on special teams all year,

592
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Speaker 1: and Harbaugh over his career is always at the top

593
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Speaker 1: of the league of special teams and that's changed drastically lately.

594
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Speaker 1: But the other things in the margins at favor of

595
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Speaker 1: the Steelers are Baltimore is the second heaviest penalized team

596
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Speaker 1: in the entire league. Steelers are kind of middle of

597
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Speaker 1: the road to below or above average, and then turnovers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, despite not being great in turnover differential during

599
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Speaker 1: this losing streak, there's still second overall to the Bills

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Speaker 1: and where the Ravens are kind of middle of the road.

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Speaker 1: So bounces and winning in the margins I think really

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Speaker 1: favors Pittsburgh, and.

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Speaker 5: We should mention in that second matchup, I believe there

604
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Speaker 5: were four fumbles in that game and Baltimore recovered them all.

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Speaker 1: Now, no fumble lately at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was right, and it's really hard to predict that.

607
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Speaker 5: But if one or two of those go your way,

608
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Speaker 5: you don't. You never know. And again, Baltimore is a

609
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Speaker 5: very talented team, but they're sloppy. They're sloppy on offense

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Speaker 5: with penalties. I think they had eight pre stat penalties

611
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Speaker 5: against Pittsburgh that first game. We saw the fumble by

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Speaker 5: Derrick Henry. They are not a super clean team and

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Speaker 5: that's why they can lose some of these games to

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Speaker 5: far lesser teams. Again, I just don't trust Baltimore in

615
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Speaker 5: the playoffs yet to not step on their toes and

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Speaker 5: these kind of games.

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Speaker 3: And Marcus looking at some of the other games here

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Speaker 3: this weekend, obviously everybody's going to be keyed in on

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Speaker 3: all these games, particularly in our area here in the

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Speaker 3: AFC games. It's an AFC Saturday and the Chargers are

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Speaker 3: at the Houston Texans, the Chargers favored NET game.

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Speaker 4: Who do you like in that one?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I love the Chargers this week. I'd be surprised

624
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Speaker 5: that that line was only two and a half or

625
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Speaker 5: three when it first came out. Chargers are playing really well.

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Speaker 5: They've scored at least thirty four points in their last

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Speaker 5: three games. It feels like that offense it's taken a bit,

628
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Speaker 5: but the offense is finally starting to click. Meanwhile, Houston's

629
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Speaker 5: defense is really good. That offense is a train wreck

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Speaker 5: right now. I just don't see how CJ's Droub without

631
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Speaker 5: Tank Dell, without Stefan Diggs and with a pretty bad

632
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Speaker 5: offensive line is able to score more than seventeen to

633
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Speaker 5: twenty points.

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Speaker 4: That's why they went and got Deontay Johnson.

635
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Speaker 5: So we think we'll see deonce this week because I

636
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Speaker 5: have right who knows the way you can put him

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Texans are the weakest team in

639
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Speaker 1: the in the playoffs? Yeah? Probably that's Arow lines by

640
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Speaker 1: the weakest unit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I kind of thought last week it would have

642
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Speaker 5: been better if Pittsburgh ended up playing Houston in Round one, sure,

643
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Speaker 5: rather than even hosting Baltimore as the three seed. Uh,

644
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Speaker 5: I would expect Houston to get bounced pretty quickly. This

645
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Speaker 5: is just not a good matchup for them at all.

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Speaker 4: How about Denver, Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: I would be nervous if I'm a Buffalo fan. He

648
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Speaker 5: worked so hard for this number two seed, and what's

649
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Speaker 5: your reward is playing Sean Payton in one of the

650
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Speaker 5: best defenses in the NFL. Buffalo's defense has been kind

651
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Speaker 5: of an issue. In December, they gave up forty four

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Speaker 5: points to the Rams forty two to the Lions. I

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Speaker 5: believe I don't love rookie quarterbacks playing on the road

654
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Speaker 5: in Round one, but I'm sure Sean Payton's gonna come

655
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Speaker 5: up with a really good game plan to try to

656
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Speaker 5: nickel and dine Buffalo's defense, which has worked a lot

657
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Speaker 5: this season. I think Buffalo will win this game, but man,

658
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Speaker 5: I do not feel confident about it at all. I

659
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Speaker 5: think that spread of nine, I think it's eight and

660
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Speaker 5: a half nine is way too high.

661
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Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think Denver's defense keeps that very

662
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Speaker 1: very interesting down to the end. You mentioned rookie quarterbacks.

663
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Speaker 1: You know we've talked fantasy you and I a ton

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Speaker 1: over the year. Here, I think there's be a ton

665
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Speaker 1: of points in Washington Tampa. I mean, I know it's

666
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback but you know, for those people doing

667
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Speaker 1: like postseason fantasy, I want to get everyone I can

668
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Speaker 1: in that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Matt, I was looking at the over under on

670
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Speaker 5: that game and it was fifteen. I was like, that's

671
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Speaker 5: just the first half lineall live, because because I don't

672
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Speaker 5: see how either of these defenses are going to get

673
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Speaker 5: stops in this now. Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's defense was

674
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Speaker 5: getting shred by Spencer Rattler last.

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Speaker 1: Week in a mocking game.

676
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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Washington, who they were trying to beat Dallas, Trey

677
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Speaker 5: Lance was moving the ball up and down the field.

678
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Speaker 5: So I expect that to be a thirty four to

679
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Speaker 5: thirty one type of game. But I think I'm gonna

680
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Speaker 5: lean Tampa Bay just because they have a lot of

681
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Speaker 5: veterans who have been in big games. I think Baker

682
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Speaker 5: Mayfield is playing obviously the best football of his career.

683
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Speaker 5: But honestly, that's probably the game I'm most excited to

684
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Speaker 5: watch this this week. It should be a ton of fun.

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Speaker 4: How about Green Bay Philadelphia?

686
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Speaker 3: I know there's still some we're assuming Hurts is going

687
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Speaker 3: to we don't know what's up with Hurts here. He

688
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: hasn't been cleared yet, but assuming he does play. Do

689
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Speaker 3: you think they handle the Packers or is this a

690
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Speaker 3: situation where maybe he's coming back he's a little rusty

691
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Speaker 3: after a few weeks.

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Speaker 5: So what last year green Bay was the seventh seed

693
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Speaker 5: and they went and played an NFC East team in

694
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Speaker 5: Round one and they beat him. I'm not gonna mention

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Speaker 5: what team that is because I happened to be a

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Speaker 5: fan of that team out in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: But no, I know the Cowboys question before you leave too.

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Speaker 5: I I don't think this is a good matchup for

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Speaker 5: Green Bay. I think, especially without Christian Watson, I just

700
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Speaker 5: don't know how they're going to create plays vertically against

701
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Speaker 5: Vicks Sangio's defense. I would expect Philadelphia to win this

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Speaker 5: game by at least a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Me too, I think Philly might be the best team

704
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Speaker 1: in the league right now. To be honest with you,

705
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Speaker 1: So where are you on, Sam Donald? I mean, that's

706
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Speaker 1: obviously our last game. Did we see a chink in

707
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Speaker 1: the armor? Was there a bad day or is the

708
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Speaker 1: the damn about to break?

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Speaker 3: On?

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald, I'm not all that concerned. I thought a

711
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Speaker 5: great They did a great job of getting pressure. The

712
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Speaker 5: red zone defense was awesome. Sam Donald has played too

713
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Speaker 5: well this year to get overly concerned about a road

714
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Speaker 5: game against the number one team maybe in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I think Sam's gonna be fine. I think they're gonna

716
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Speaker 5: put up a bunch of points against the Rams this week.

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Speaker 3: It should be interesting because as it works out the

718
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Speaker 3: way the league scheduled this, all the AFC games first, yeah,

719
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Speaker 3: and then you get the NFC playoffs. I don't know

720
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Speaker 3: if they planned it that way or why they would

721
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Speaker 3: have done it that way, but that's what we get.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think what Fox just didn't want to give

723
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Speaker 5: up the Packers Eagles game, which I understand. And then Sunday.

724
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Speaker 5: I can't believe Sunday Night football chows Commanders and Buccaneers,

725
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: but I get it. Those are two of the best

726
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Speaker 5: offenses in the league. So it should be fun.

727
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Speaker 1: Our Steelers haven't played on a normal Sunday and about

728
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Speaker 1: an eternity. I mean, they're always on Christmas or three

729
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Speaker 1: days and eleven days or Saturday or Saturday night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think. I think this is five straight games

731
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Speaker 5: they've played not on a Sunday, which is pretty incredible.

732
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Speaker 3: It's the longest streak they've gone without playing a Sunday game.

733
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Speaker 3: Since their first year in nineteen thirty three. It's nuts,

734
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Speaker 3: and they the Pennsylvania Blue Laws to deal with. That's

735
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Speaker 3: where that's where we're at with this whole thing.

736
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Speaker 4: But I knew.

737
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Speaker 3: Whether it was going to be the Ravens coming to

738
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh or the Steelers going to Baltimore. Whichever way that

739
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Speaker 3: worked out, that game was going to be Saturday night

740
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Speaker 3: because it's must see TV.

741
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Speaker 1: Oh it'll it'll get some ratings.

742
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if they would have went and played Houston in

743
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Speaker 5: round one, you know that game.

744
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Speaker 4: Is on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Houston's played that Saturday afternoon game about twenty five

746
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Speaker 5: straight years.

747
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Speaker 1: So yeah, So Mark, as we mentioned it, I mean

748
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Speaker 1: you host lock on Cowboys too, And to me, that's

749
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Speaker 1: probably the only coaching change that still could happen. Do

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Speaker 1: you think they're out of the woods, Are they bringing

751
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Speaker 1: McCarthy back or what's your tot take on that or

752
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: is it done?

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Speaker 5: I think McCarthy and Jerry Jones would like a deal

754
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Speaker 5: to get done, but I think there's some things that

755
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Speaker 5: are holding it up. For example, who's going to be

756
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Speaker 5: the defensive coordinator? Mike Zimmer. Cowboys really like him, they

757
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Speaker 5: want him back. He might retire, so that's part of

758
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Speaker 5: the issue. They don't want to bring McCarthy back without

759
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Speaker 5: knowing who the defensive coordinator is. And also McCarthy wants

760
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Speaker 5: a five year deal. He wants some security and not

761
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Speaker 5: just being another lane duck. Coach Jerry Jones wants them

762
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Speaker 5: to come back on a one year deal to prove

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Speaker 5: that he can right the wrongs of the season. I

764
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Speaker 5: think they're going to come to a opromise. But if

765
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Speaker 5: they don't, watch out for Kellum Moore to potentially come

766
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Speaker 5: in and take his job.

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Speaker 1: What would you do.

768
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Speaker 5: I would probably move on to try to get one

769
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Speaker 5: of these younger head coaches, maybe Lee and Collen from

770
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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay. I don't think Ben Johnson wants any of

771
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Speaker 5: this mess, but I think it's time to give some

772
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Speaker 5: new energy to the building.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Marcus, we appreciate your time here. We'll let

774
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Speaker 3: you get back. I know it's a busy time of

775
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Speaker 3: the year and you get probably seventeen more articles right

776
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Speaker 3: for the thirty third team, But our guest has been

777
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Speaker 3: Marcus Mosher of the thirty third team and of course

778
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Speaker 3: the Locked On Network. You can check out Marcus's work

779
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Speaker 3: on the thirty third team, and that's the spelled out

780
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Speaker 3: thirty third, the number thirty third and then team great

781
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Speaker 3: stuff on there. Again, we referenced that website all the

782
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Speaker 3: time on this show, and we appreciate Marcus sharing some

783
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Speaker 3: time with us and we'll see if he's right after

784
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Speaker 3: this weekend up some good point a lot of Steeler

785
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Speaker 3: Steeler fans hoping that is the case and they beat

786
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Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Marcus, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, Thanks Elves.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

790
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Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We're

791
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Speaker 3: gonna take a break, Matt now, I'll be back with

792
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Speaker 3: more right after this.

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

794
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

795
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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson And uh, well,

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Speaker 3: we just talked with Marcus Mosher from the Third Team,

799
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Speaker 3: and I almost felt like he's been listening to the

800
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Speaker 3: show because these are things we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he reiterated a lot of things we talked

802
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Speaker 1: about in the first segment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even have been talking about all week again,

804
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: you know everything you hear from.

805
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Speaker 1: National and national and even if.

806
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: You're listening to that other state in town, the Steelers

807
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: have no chance to win this game.

808
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Speaker 4: And I don't think it's crazy.

809
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't either, And I am shocked by the line

810
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: and the public perception. And I also understand you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I have done this a long time. This

812
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: is a what have you done for me lately? Business?

813
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Especially through the fans' eyes, you know, like up, it's

814
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: over or boy. The Ravens are untouchable. It's hard to

815
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: win five games in a row. It's hard to win

816
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: playoff games. It's hard to beat, you know, a rival

817
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: that knows you extremely well. I'm sure the Ravens look

818
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: at some things that they like in this game, for sure,

819
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: But I don't think they were doing cartwheels when the

820
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: bracket came out.

821
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Speaker 4: I don't think so either.

822
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was not not one that you you know, again,

823
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: you had the choice here if you're John Harve, Okay, we're.

824
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: Gonna win the division.

825
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what we're trying to do here.

826
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Speaker 3: Right, We're trying to do But then our opponent's going

827
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Speaker 3: to be my brother Mike Tomlin, right, like, oh man, yeah,

828
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: that doesn't can't we get the Broncos.

829
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get somebody that that doesn't know me so well.

830
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, that knows me as well as I know myself,

831
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: and certainly Tomlin does. And that works both ways. But

832
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Tomlin's had the edge and that advantage over the years,

833
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: you know.

834
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so the fact, yeah, Steelers have a little

835
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: news here. They've released wide receiver Scotty Miller from the

836
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Speaker 3: active roster. And I know some people might look at

837
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: that and go, oh, I mean's Roman Wilson's coming over?

838
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's the automatic response to that. Mason

839
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Speaker 3: McCormick is questionable for this game.

840
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Speaker 1: He's a broken hand.

841
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: He's a broken hand.

842
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you might need another offensive lineman, one more.

843
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Active on game days that you thought, you know, just

844
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: because even if McCormick starts the game, what if he

845
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Speaker 1: gets it wrong on a helmet or whatever, and all

846
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like I can't catch anymore.

847
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Speaker 3: Catches it on somebody's ear. That's that's what happens all

848
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Speaker 3: the time with that. So I don't have any ligaments

849
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Speaker 3: in my my right thumb. I tore the ligaments of

850
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Speaker 3: my thumb my senior year in high school and didn't

851
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Speaker 3: tell anybody.

852
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: During basketball season.

853
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to have to miss any games.

854
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: I already missed some games with a knee issue, but

855
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: so I toughed it out all. I didn't even tape it, okay,

856
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: just didn't lay might not, just didn't let anybody know.

857
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: And we have to bump it every all five second

858
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: time you catch it on somebody's jersey. You catch it,

859
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: it's like it just it's just constantly like ah yeah,

860
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: and it's just like somebody and even.

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Speaker 1: He'll protect it. Yeah, but he's also blocking three hundred pounds.

862
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: You know, somebody bending that thing backwards a little bit

863
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: and putting pressure on the and you feel it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're just going to.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to do a club or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: From what I said, he's not going to do any

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Speaker 3: kind of you know.

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Speaker 1: You hardly ever see people do the old club thing anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like you've got to be able to grab and use

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Speaker 1: your hands independently. I mean, it's just not a hammer. No,

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Speaker 1: but no, I give him all the credit in the world,

872
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: but that's not going to be an easy you know,

873
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: sixty minutes.

874
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean you can do things to mitigate

875
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 3: that a little bit. But you know, at the same time,

876
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's a broken bone in your hand, and

877
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: it does it also affects your grip strength and things

878
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: of that nature.

879
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean people think it's illegal to hold, but

880
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: you grabbed cloth a low.

881
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: To grab outside, right, right, you can grab.

882
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Inside and still grab outside too, as long as they don't.

883
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: It's important, right, Like Zach Frazier is great grip strike.

884
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: That's suff's important. Let me say about that. So if

885
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: he can't go or if he's pulled from the game,

886
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Spencer Anderson would be his backup, right, I mean, I

887
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: think we've seen that that's set pretty well. But then

888
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: you're really lean, you know. I mean, so I assume

889
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: what you're guessing is Miller makes way for the other

890
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: Anderson just to be active on game day potentially. Yeah,

891
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you know they they've That doesn't mean Miller's day is

892
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: a Steeler are gone. I mean, he could end up

893
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: backing them, but.

894
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: He's now can out signed with anybody.

895
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of teams right now filling out rosters,

896
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: and you know you're into the season roster and that

897
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So you know, but that that's to

898
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: me is where that goes. The need right now.

899
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: Is on the offensive line.

900
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always find that interesting. It's like this

901
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: business is brutal. You know, Millar didn't do anything wrong

902
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: and anything asked of them. Hold for an extra point, sure,

903
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: be a gunner, sure, but in this instance he's the

904
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: fifty third guy and another position is needed, and they're

905
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: not gonna cut McCormick, you know, right, you know you're

906
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: not gonna cut Spencer Anderson. So somebody needs to go.

907
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's the way it works. I mean, some

908
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: of these guys bounce around the league a lot because

909
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: of that.

910
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: You mentioned the holding stuff.

911
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: The last game, the Baltimore Ravens had just two penalties

912
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: in that game in Baltimore season low.

913
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

914
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you mentioned before, they were the second highest

915
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: most penalized team in the league. Yeah, this season, and

916
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: they had two penalties in that Gay. I don't know

917
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: if they have it fixed, by the way. No, that's

918
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: one thing they do either, huge things.

919
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: You know, like the first time the Steelers and Ravens

920
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: met Man back into the defense is a disaster, you know,

921
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: blown coverage is left and right. You know, obviously some

922
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: people were playing out of position or not in their

923
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: best spot back then. And penalties, man, you know, they

924
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: they let people back into games. You know, Marcus mentioned

925
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: this is a sloppy team, you know, and I don't

926
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: think that part got fixed.

927
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had twelve penalties for eighty yards in the

928
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: first meeting.

929
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Okay, twelve for eighty I even remember when they came

930
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: out of their by they had kind of a pseudo

931
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: next by. They played the Giants when they were horrendous

932
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: yea at that point, and they had a bunch of

933
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: penalties in that game too. I mean, so it's pretty recently.

934
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they've cleaned that part of their game up.

935
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: It's just kind of interesting that that some because that

936
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: was one of the things that I looked at going

937
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: into that game, like, okay, because they were the most

938
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: penalized team going into that game and have and again

939
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: it's held up that they ended up second most. Somehow

940
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: they made it through that game. The Steelers were penalized

941
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: five times for twenty nine yards, just the Ravens had

942
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: two for ten. Yeah, they didn't hold the entire game,

943
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: entire game they didn't have any penalties down the field

944
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: for legal contact, which has been another big reflarement.

945
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: That's their big areas. Yeah, and so recepts stuff they

946
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: usually have issues with.

947
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: Right, didn't do any of that stuff in that game.

948
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll come come around a little bit, right or

949
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: even out.

950
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

951
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: So but again, if if you look at that game,

952
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: it was seventeen seventeen in the third quarter, with the

953
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: third quarter was almost done, and it was seventeen seventeen,

954
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: and people were acting like that game was just a

955
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: complete blowout all the Ravens was thirty four to seventeen.

956
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: They just they just ran them off the field. That

957
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: was not the case.

958
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't. And there were some game changing moments.

959
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Marcus brought it up too. I mean, ball hit the

960
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: ground quite a few times and you just weren't able

961
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: to pick it up. I mean, we did that video

962
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: with Rob today and one of you two, I thought

963
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: it was him, mentioned how many times the ball came

964
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: out during this losing streak and how many times the

965
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: Steelers have landed on it. It's just, you know, a

966
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: ridiculously low percentage that even if you don't get fifty percent,

967
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: like usually does even out. If you get thirty percent,

968
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: things may have gone a little different. Yeah.

969
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: The Ravens had three fumbles in that game. Yeah, and this,

970
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: and the Steelers recovered none of them. Yeah, like that's

971
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: that's just fumble.

972
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

973
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were zero for four in that game and fumble.

974
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: You know it just that's one of the things about

975
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, there is a lot of variables

976
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: about it like that.

977
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: And honestly, outside of the of the pass that he

978
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: threw that was intercepted, I thought Russell Wilson played pretty

979
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: well in that game.

980
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think the defense greatly confused them, or all

981
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: their simulated pressures were you know, too much to deal

982
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: with that he couldn't handle it. Yeah, I think he'll

983
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: be okay.

984
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: Against he was he was twenty two or thirty three

985
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: for two hundred and seventeen yards with two touchdowns in

986
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: an interception. If he goes twenty, if he throws for

987
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: two seventeen and two touchdowns in this game, I'll take that. Yeah,

988
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: I think I would take cut the interception out.

989
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you have to take that. Yeah. Yeah, I

990
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: think that's safe to say. I think that they'll be

991
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: a fair amount of short passing, I think the backs

992
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: will ketch, so the fair amount of balls got away

993
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: from that. That was working well leading into the Bangals.

994
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren had five catches for forty four yards in

995
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: that game.

996
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: He had a nice streak going of yards from scrimmage,

997
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, fifty five, sixty five, seventy, you know, week

998
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: after week after week.

999
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: He just got nicked up in the last game and

1000
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: they didn't have They didn't A, they didn't have the

1001
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: ball long enough in the first half for anybody to

1002
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: put up any kind of stats. Yeah, but b then

1003
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: in the third quarter he got nicked up on a run.

1004
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: And I included when it was walking on TV.

1005
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people listening didn't know that either. Yeah,

1006
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: there was a play. Announcers came out and like, why

1007
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: is he getting the seat of Warren or why don't

1008
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: we getting more Warren? That was never explained.

1009
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: It was because Warren was nicked up. I mean he

1010
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: took I think he took a helmet to the to

1011
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: the hip hip and kind of limped off and you

1012
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: didn't see him the rest of the game. That was

1013
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: maybe on the opening possession of the second half.

1014
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would think he's a much bigger part

1015
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: of this game. Yeah.

1016
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: He's explosive, really really well and gives you a little something,

1017
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: a little juice there.

1018
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: But if you fire moves turned the corner.

1019
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and people forget as well. In that game,

1020
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: Warren had twelve carries for forty eight yards. Harris had

1021
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: nine for forty two. The Steelers ran the ball effectively

1022
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: against the Ravens in that game.

1023
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a little bit of a misconception.

1024
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: You brought this up earlier in the week that this is.

1025
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: A defense you just can't run on, not anymore seventy

1026
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 3: six Coyle Hamilton's fifteen yards off the line of scrimms.

1027
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: Coyle Hamilton's very good against the run, very good against

1028
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: That was one of the concessions that the Ravens had

1029
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: to make.

1030
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: Which is a smart move for them, but it's you know.

1031
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: They're easier to run against now than they were if

1032
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: they were like three point three yards per carry.

1033
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: They're leading the season.

1034
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: There, and also load some of those numbers were misleading

1035
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: too because they were so bad against the pass. Yeah, like, oh,

1036
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: they're only allowing seventy yards per game rushing, Why would

1037
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: you run whenever you can bombs away, right, and nobody

1038
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: knows who to cover, right, So the run defense is

1039
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: good and there's no question.

1040
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's here's gay.

1041
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 3: I mean brokewe what doesn't mean you don't try?

1042
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say I and the Steelers didn't

1043
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: shy away from it from what I remember in either meeting.

1044
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: I mean you had twenty one.

1045
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: You had twenty one carries out of your two prime

1046
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: I'm mary backs for ninety yards, all right, that's over

1047
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: four yards of carry.

1048
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: And if Marcus is right and this is a seven

1049
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: to six game at the half, well they're gonna keep

1050
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: going with it. Yeah, mean they just keep sticking with it.

1051
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: And I like that approach. Yeah, short throws shots over

1052
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: the top here and there.

1053
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: Let's let's get to a break that's going to do

1054
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: it for our number one of the drive here on

1055
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

1056
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: our number two right after this