1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Dec position players running run up to the mountain and 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: calling the catcher out. It's a lot of times it's 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: because they're seeing something or hey, we think the you know, 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the runner might have a timing aspect on you. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: We got to change things up. Max. Great to have 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: you back on. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 3: Always appreciate the time, especially obviously when you're trying to 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: come back as quick as possible. So dude, first off, 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: how are you feeling. How's the knee? 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's uh surprisingly good. 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be a slow process, but uh, 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: we avoided the major stuff, so I'm very thankful about that. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like I said the other day, 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I get to come back and play baseball this year, 15 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: and so it's me that's the biggest thing. 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 4: Dude. 17 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 5: All Right, we talked, We've talked a lot. Okay, but listen, 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 5: there's an old thing in baseball. 19 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Bro. 20 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 5: If you roll around on the ground like that, you 21 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 5: better be stretchered off or dead. Okay, Like, you can't 22 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 5: just say I have a bruise, Oh I'm bruised. Like, 23 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 5: come on, Max, Like I was watching this and we 24 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 5: were texting, I was watching I'm like, oh my gosh, 25 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 5: Maximuntzy just died on the field, like he's gonna have 26 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 5: to have his leg amputated. He's rolling around on the 27 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: ground and I'm like, okay, he's dead. Something's bad. And 28 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: then it came back a bruce. Max explained to the 29 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: people how bad a Bruce can hurt. 30 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Well, I was on crutches, so I mean, obviously I 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: just do bad. Yeah, no, but just it's one of 32 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: those things where you get anything around your knee like that, 33 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: you automatically fear the worst, especially with that kind of impact. 34 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: You know, my whole whole leg kind of went num. 35 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Immediately, so I obviously I thought something bad had happened. 36 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: But you know, we went down underneath, did X rays immediately. 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, they did the you know ACL tests and 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: all that stuff where they're yanking on your knee, and 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: obviously I didn't feel great, but it didn't feel as 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: bad as what I thought it would have felt if 41 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: I had torn something. So I started feeling optimistic immediately. 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Didn't get the scans till the next day, but yeah, 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: it was just kind of crappy situation that somehow, actlessly. 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: Nothing bad happened out of that except for just a bruise. 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: Let me just say this, we're very happy you're healthy. 46 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: I don't want people to think out there that I'm 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 5: getting on you. 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: I trust me. 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: I'm extremely happy that you are healthy. And this was 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 5: best case scenario. So I just have to make sure 51 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: that you know that. And then all the Twitter trolls 52 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 5: and all the people in the chat are like, he 53 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: wants Max wants you. 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: To be hurt. 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: No, no, no, not at all. I'm very happy you're healthy. 56 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: It's just as you know, in baseball and in sports, 57 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: people get hurt and then once we find out they're 58 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: not worst case scenario. 59 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: People in baseball are like, oh, we laugh about it. 60 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: Not you know, not laughing at you being injured, but 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 5: we laugh about the way people you know, guy gets 62 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 5: to it in the elbow, they roll around the ground 63 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: like they're dead and then they get back up. 64 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: And that hurt, dude, I know it does. Trust me, 65 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: that hurts. 66 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 4: Not to rehash everything, but in those moments when you 67 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: hurt your knee, in that moment and you're sitting on 68 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: the table or are they're helping you off the field, 69 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: are what are some of the thoughts that go through 70 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: your head? I I one time I ever got hurt 71 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: and you had to wait till the next day to 72 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: get those that imaging. What are some of the thoughts 73 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: that go through your head? 74 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of a wide range. You know. 75 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm down underneath getting the X rays and I hear 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: the stadium kind of go nuts. So my first real 77 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: emotion was, damn it, I missed kershaw Is three thousand. 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to be out there for it. I wanted 79 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to give him a big hug, and I missed it. 80 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Like that was the first thing. As I'm laying there 81 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: on the ground, I'm like, man, I need to get 82 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: off this field otherwise cursh might kill me. He's trying 83 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: to get this strikeout. Like I'm holding up this game. 84 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: I got to get off this field somehow. And you know, 85 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of the first thing that I was thinking about. 86 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: And then as I'm laying there in bed that night, 87 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: knowing I have to wait till tomorrow to get to 88 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the next day to get the scans, I'm just replaying 89 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: everything in my head, you know, because the first thing 90 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the doctors always ask you is did you feel pop? 91 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Did you hear a pop? 92 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, laying there in bed, I'm like, man, 93 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: did I feel pop? 94 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Like? Did I not? Like? 95 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't don't know, And so you start just thinking 96 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: about everything. You get no sleep, and then you got 97 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: to drive over there and get the scans the next day. 98 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: And you know, thankfully, they get the results from that 99 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: back pretty quick. And so as I was heading to 100 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: the field, they'd called and said that, you know, structurally 101 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: everything was good. There was some damage in there, but 102 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, all the ligaments were still intact. 103 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing. 104 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: And so for me, it was like that that night 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: laying in bed, you just replay everything in your head, 106 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and you know, I start thinking back to twenty one 107 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: when my elbow had gone, and I was like, man, 108 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: I hope it's not the same thing, Like I can't 109 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: miss I can't miss the rest this year. 110 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: I just can't do that. No, you're raking too. You're raking. 111 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 5: You want to get back out there, got them glasses, 112 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: you're raking, so you want to play. You can't wait 113 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: to get back. But you mentioned Kershaw and you you 114 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 5: went down literally the hitter before he got this three 115 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 5: thousand strikeout. Two things on Kershaw's strikeouts, one after he 116 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 5: got his three thousand did he come in and check 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: on you or was he just all enthralled himself about 118 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: like I missed her three thousand? Now you know Max's down. 119 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: It's fine, but I got three thousand strikeouts. And then, 120 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: second of all, have you ever seen a team like 121 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: the White Sox completely change their approach to not be 122 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 5: three thousand and literally first pick swing, I'm just gonna 123 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: play Pepper. We're not going to strike out no matter what. 124 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Well, so the first one, Yeah, Kersh came running up 125 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: and gave me a big hug. You know, I was 126 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: telling him congrats, and he was sitting there saying, dude, 127 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 128 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm so. I'm like, what are you sorry for? It's 129 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: not your fault. 130 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: He goes not, I let the guy get on second, 131 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I was like, that's not your fault, 132 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: man like, but he came up and gave me a 133 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: big hug. Freddie came running up, give me a hug. 134 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Show was looking for me. You know that that that 135 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: made me feel pretty good that the guys were coming 136 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: up to check on me, and you know, especially for 137 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: Kersh in that moment to come and come and give 138 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: me a hug. It was kind of like you know 139 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: that that was that was awesome. I wanted to give 140 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: him a hug on the field, congratulate him, but obviously 141 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't out there. And then, you know, in terms 142 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: of the White Sox, it was yeah, they were they 143 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: were putting everything in play. It was uh, no one 144 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: wanted to be that guy. That's that's for sure. 145 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: You know. 146 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I think that's something that teams know when you're going in, 147 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: you go, oh man, this guy's got a milestone coming up. 148 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: You don't want to be the one to you know, 149 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: you don't want to be in the you don't want 150 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: to be the guy in the record books on the 151 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: on the wrong end of it. 152 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 2: That's for sure. 153 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: I would expect nothing less on curseh by the way, 154 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 5: for him to run up and drop everything and give 155 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: you a hug, because that's just the kind of guy 156 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: he is. 157 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: I mean, he's team first. 158 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 5: And then for you guys to come back and win 159 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: that game, I'm sure meant a lot to Curse. And 160 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 5: then he gets the Legends pick. What do you think 161 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: of the Legends pick for Curse to get to come 162 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: to Atlanta and be an All Star. 163 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's awesome, you know, they did 164 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: it with Albert and uh Migie Cabrera several years ago, 165 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's awesome that the commissioner can do that. 166 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is when the commissioner 167 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: does that, it's not taking a spot away from anyone else, 168 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and so I think that's where, you know, it's really cool, 169 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: like he's not taking a spot away to say, no, 170 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: I want to add this as a legend pick. 171 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's just an extra spot that they add. 172 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: So I think that's the coolest thing ever, is that, 173 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, the commissioner gets to say, hey, this guy's 174 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: been a legend in this game. He's accomplished so much, 175 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I want to add him to the All Star Game. 176 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: And it's just an extra spot. It's not it's not 177 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: taken away from someone else, because you know, there's always 178 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: the conversations of. 179 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: Who got snubbed, and. 180 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, this isn't a case where oh, well they're 181 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: adding Kershaw, so they can't add this other guy. It's like, no, 182 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: he's just an extra spot added to it. And I 183 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: think it's really cool and it's a an amazing accomplishment. 184 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: It's eleven All Star games for him. That's a lot. 185 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, they always they always do something on the 186 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: jerseys where they add like a you know stars or 187 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: or you know, numbers for how many All Star Games 188 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: you've been to. And so I think it's gonna be 189 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: really cool to see how Cursh's jersey turns out with 190 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, that number of All Star Games on there. 191 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: There's could be so many stars as jersey is gonna 192 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: be heavier. Have you talked to him since he got 193 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: the Legends pick? Have you talked to him since. 194 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: Just a little bit because we had, you know, a 195 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: team meeting on Sunday and that was when Kursh found 196 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: out and the team flew out after the game and 197 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: I was I'm not with the team right now, so 198 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I only had a little chance to talk to him, 199 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I think he was surprised, and you know, 200 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: classic Kersh. He doesn't think he you know, he's he 201 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: doesn't think he's deserved it, with you know, not pitching 202 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot this year. 203 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, when 204 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: you're one of the. 205 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Best pitchers in the history of the game, you've kind 206 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: of deserved everything that you that you get, and so 207 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I think it's it's really cool for him to be 208 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: able to go there, and especially with some of the teammates. 209 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: But my question was gonna be, do you feel like 210 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 4: it maybe pressurizes him to quit, like retire after this 211 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: year because the other guy's got it in their last 212 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: season and how many years? Because to me, the dude 213 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: has never had a bad e R. Yes, I get 214 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: he's not throwing seven thirty two starts every year right now, 215 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: but when he's out there, he is an integral part 216 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: of your rotation. He could play for three or four 217 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: more years doing the same thing that he's doing. Is 218 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: he gonna get three or four more legendary picks? Legend picks? 219 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: Look, man, the guy's the ultimate competitor. I don't know 220 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: when he's going to decide to hang him up. That's 221 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: that's his choice, and you know he keeps it pretty 222 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: close to the chest, but he's the ultimate competitor. 223 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what his stuff is, he's going to go. 224 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: He's going to find a way to go out. 225 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: There, give you, you know, five to seven innings and he's 226 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: going to navigate the game. And you know, he just 227 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: he has that drive and that fiery competitiveness to find 228 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: a way to get it done regardless of what his 229 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: stuff is. 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I want to go off 262 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: the weekend series against the Astros, which I'm sure the 263 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: team wants to wipe away as quickly as possible the sweep. 264 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of history here and I'm going 265 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: to bring up Orlherscheiser on the podcast, stirring the pod 266 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: a little bit, just to get the reaction. I'm sure 267 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: you guys all heard it and even had a good. 268 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Laugh about it. 269 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: I'll say the quote he said this was from the 270 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: eighteen to one game in the opener of the series 271 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: or on the Dodgers broadcasts. Legendary Picture does a great 272 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: job quote. I don't want to open an old wounden. 273 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: But in some ways they're swinging at these breaking balls 274 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: like they know what is coming. 275 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Well, do I think they know what was coming? Yes? 276 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: I do? 277 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Do I think they were cheating to get there? No, 278 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I think they had a tip on the picture and 279 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: that's on us to clean that up. That's not cheating. 280 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: That's part of the game. Good teams are going to 281 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: do that. So yes, I do think they knew that 282 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: what were coming, but it wasn't because they were cheating. 283 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Is because you know, our picture had a tip and 284 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: we've we've addressed it, we've cleaned it up hopefully, and 285 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's one of those things where you just 286 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: have to always be careful about what you're what you're 287 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: doing out there. You don't want to give anything away 288 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: to the other team. And you know, that's something that 289 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: we take advantage of a lot of times, and you know, 290 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you just you have to find a way to clean 291 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: that up. And that's not cheating. That's that's part of 292 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: the game. That's that's being a smart baseball player is 293 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: what that is. So do I think I do? I 294 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: think they knew what was coming. Yeah, but they weren't cheating. 295 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: When that's happening. How much chaos is there on the 296 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: team side that's getting you know, beat up by an 297 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: offense that might know that there's you know, a certain 298 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: pitch coming based off tipping. Like when something like that happens, 299 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: is there suddenly you know, the group behind the scenes 300 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: that obviously tries to look out for tips, that's trying 301 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: to make an in game adjustment with a pitcher or 302 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: hitters talking about it, because yes, clearly they were all 303 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: over everything. I don't know if they said they had 304 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: a tip, but they never will obviously until years later. 305 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: They'll probably come on foul territory and someone will give 306 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: it away. But what's going on during those moments? 307 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the first thing you look at is, 308 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, like the pitches they're hitting, you know, are 309 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: they just really bad pitches? You know, was the pitcher 310 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: just making really bad pitches? You look at their timing, 311 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, there was there was no there was no 312 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: flinching on any of the pitches, and it was like, okay, 313 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: so you know, maybe the pitcher wasn't exactly executing his 314 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, pitches how he wanted, but there was just 315 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: no flinching at all. And you know, they were on 316 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: everything timing wise, and this is the guy that was 317 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: throwing ninety seven ninety eight with a wicked, wicked slider, 318 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: you know, and we've seen them dominate a lot of teams, 319 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and so for there's to be like no flinching that 320 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of throws up a red flag that, okay, they 321 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: might have something on them. 322 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: We got to know. We had to find a way 323 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: to look at it. 324 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of guys that are really 325 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: good at that stuff, and so just you know, it's 326 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of a team effort. You just get a whole 327 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: group together, you start looking at things and you try 328 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: to address it. 329 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: Have you ever gone to the mound and found a 330 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: tip that one of your pitchers was doing during the 331 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: middle of the game. Because the reason I ask is 332 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: because Chase Sutley would always come in from second base 333 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: when we had no mound visit rules. He would just 334 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: come in. He'd be like, hey, come here, and you're tipping. 335 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: You're moving your glove like half an inch, like it's 336 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: o and you play with taste a little bit, you know, 337 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: like he sees something in everything and he's not wrong. 338 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: But have you ever seen it and helped one of 339 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: your pitchers, kurtail it before it ever gets before it 340 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: ever gets out of control. 341 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, Chase was the best at it. He was amazing. 342 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: He could see things. 343 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: He could see things that really probably weren't there, but 344 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: he he could see it. 345 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he he taught me a lot 346 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff. And that's uh, you know, 347 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: he taught a lot of us about that kind of stuff. 348 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, there's there's a lot of times 349 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: when you know, if you see position players running and 350 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: run up to the mound and calling the catcher out, 351 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot of times it's because they're seeing something 352 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: or you know, hey, we think the you know, the 353 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: runner might have a timing aspect on you. 354 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: We got to change things up. 355 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Or you know, you know the guy on seconds, you know, 356 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: looking in your glove, we got to clean that up. 357 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: And you know, there's just there's a lot of times 358 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: when you see that and you try to run out there, 359 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: and you know you're trying to win a game, and 360 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: you know that that's stuff that can cost you a game. 361 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 5: Hey, Max, All Star Game is next week. Is there 362 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 5: a bigger snub than Andy Paul And for not making 363 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: it to the All Star Game just because I mean 364 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: we mentioned Kersher getting the Legends pick, but I mean 365 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: Andy Pas has had a great first half and is 366 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: very deserving. 367 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Andy Pas is very deserving of the All Star pick, 368 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I really wish he would 369 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: get it. You know, there's still a couple of days 370 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: until till the break, and you know, things happened and 371 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: you know they might add guys or so I'm I'm 372 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: still hoping that he gets the pick because. 373 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I agree he's very deserving. 374 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, what he's done for us in this first 375 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: half has been incredible. He's you know, we've we've been 376 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: saying it for a while. He's a very good player. 377 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, last year he kind of had some struggles 378 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: in center field, but that's because he was, you know, 379 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: a corner outfielder, and he's made the adjustments and he's 380 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: become a very good outfielder and probably one of the 381 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: best arms in baseball without a doubt. You know, he 382 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: just he throws rockets out there, and he's very accurate 383 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: with it. Offensively, he's got incredible about the ball skills. 384 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: He's got a good approach, he's. 385 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Got a lot of power in the bat, and you know, 386 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's a star in the making for sure. 387 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: When when I used to sit on the bench and 388 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: watch my teammates play games and guys would never go 389 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: to like the minor leagues to rehab, I would always 390 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: be like, Oh, this guy's rehabbing against the Marlins. Oh 391 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: he's rehabbing it. Literally, Shani is rehabbing in the big leagues. 392 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: He's doing it on the mound. What are you seeing 393 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: from him? Not just on the field where he strikes 394 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: out the side of a pretty decent lineup, but also 395 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: all the extra stuff that he has to do to 396 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: recover get ready for the game. Oh yeah, and you 397 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: guys still need. 398 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Him to hit. 399 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's, he's incredible. He's definitely a unicorn. 400 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, his his pitching rehab is it's tough. You're 401 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: doing a lot every single day, and uh, you know 402 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: that was that was part of the decision, I believe, 403 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: to start having him do these rehabs in games, because 404 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: when he was throwing the you know, the the SIMN 405 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: games before the game, it was essentially like he was 406 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: playing a doubleheader. And you know, he's kind of still 407 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: doing that with all the stuff that he's doing to 408 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: try to get ready. 409 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: For the games. 410 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: And you know, from the pitching side, he looks fantastic. 411 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: He's he's throwing hard. The off speed stuff looks nasty. 412 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: The hitters are off balance on everything, and you know 413 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: they're not they're not getting great swings off and it's 414 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: just it's really incredible to watch. You're talking about a 415 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: guy that is as good a hitter as anyone in 416 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: baseball and now he's as good a pitcher as anyone 417 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: in baseball, and like, it's just that's so rare to 418 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: see that, and you know, we've never really seen that 419 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: before and we probably won't ever see it again. It's 420 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: just it's absolutely incredible. 421 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: Hey, Max, I have some friends that are Dodger fans 422 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: and there they want you MVP votes for you. Since 423 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: you've gone down the Dodgers haven't won, so they're thinking 424 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 5: that maybe, you know, contrary to Shohey and Mooky and 425 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 5: Freddie and Will Smith and all these other guys, Max 426 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 5: Munsey for all the grief over the years, they're like, oh, Max, 427 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 5: you know, blah blah blah, but now you're gone. In 428 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 5: the last four games have not gone so well, so 429 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: maybe Max or MVP might be on their list. 430 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know about that. 431 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I'm a cog in the machine that 432 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: helps it run, you know, exactly how it's supposed to run. 433 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: So that's that's how I've always viewed myself. 434 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Wait, Max, I got a quick one for you. No 435 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: one's there, No one's in the locker room. Are you 436 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: messing with anybody's stuff? Like do you untie some of 437 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 4: like Mookie's shoelaces or like, or like tie them backwards 438 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: to see if anybody notices? Or you not that bored? 439 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: Are you just like no, I'm focused just baseball stuff, 440 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: no shenanigans. 441 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: Well, we haven't gotten to that point yet, you know. 442 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully I can you know, rehab my my knee fairly quickly, 443 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: and I won't get to that point. You know, last 444 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: year with the Oblique, I felt like towards the end, 445 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: I was starting to get get to that point where 446 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm start just throwing sunflower seeds and 447 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: guys shoes when they put them on. 448 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: See if it, you know, make them laugh a little bitter. 449 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: But it's uh, yeah, I don't like messing with people' 450 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: stuff because I know that I hate it when my 451 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: stuff gets messed with, so I you know, I leave 452 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: people stuff alone. You know, during the games might be 453 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: a different story. You know, you try to mess with 454 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: guys a little bit, maybe put a little gum on their. 455 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: Hat or something like that. But the classic dugout jokes, 456 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: love it, love it. 457 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: Actually, that reminds me of last year. I think the 458 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: record last year wasn't as shiny without Max in the 459 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: lineup too. But we'll do the bragging for you. 460 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: We'll do that. We'll handle that. Max. Great to have 461 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: you all, man. I'll let you guys do that for me. 462 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm just a co cogging the machine. 463 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're You're just a friendly neighborhood cogging the Dodgers 464 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: Juggernaut lineup machine. So Max, keep heeling up quick as possible. 465 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, dude, Yeah, thanks for having me on. Guys,