1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: What kind of sadistic person, what kind of sadistic show 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: chooses the beginning of March to do what we're about 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: to do tonight? What are we going to do tonight? 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Full SEC coaching staffs created, not just the head coach, kids, 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Thankless behavior, thankless work being done on 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: this show. We're jampacked Hia top a lovely downtown Nashville, Tennessee, Tonight, Sunday, 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: March third, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Yes, 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: SEC coaching staff, we're grading them tonight. We are ranking them. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: We're not even power rating, it's actual rankings. We're dropping 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: on you tonight. I'm gonna talk about that. Johnny Manzel 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: pretty outspoken this week about something I hold near and 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: dear to my heart, and that is Heisman foolishness. Therefore, 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: we will discuss that tonight. I've got some sleeping giant 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: programs that we need to talk about. That's code for yeah, 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna talk Nebraska at some point during the show. 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: All that, I've got, what else? Jesse the top quarterback 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: rooms in the sport this year. And also, as you know, 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: we were down in Athens last week, had a really 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: really positively received one on one conversation with Kirby Smart 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: that's on the channel now if you want to watch 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: it or listen to it. But also, hey man, we 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: saw a lot down there. Some of it we can't 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: talk about. Some of it we can talk about. Some 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: of it I can be kind of vague about. But 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you as much as I can give 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: you a little scoop about our trip down to Athens. 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: And we got like a dozen or two dozen more 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: of those trips coming at various points this spring. They're 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: watching us in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, Olympia, Washington, Mikanos, Greece, and Meridianville, Alabama. 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. As I said, the Pate 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: State Speaker Series has cranked up. We're gonna be all 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: over the country this spring. I am not releasing a 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: promotional poster or dates. I'll just let you know when 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: it's time. But we're gonna be coast to coast. We 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: will be all over the country, will be in every 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: major conference, and it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Got a lot of big names lined up and a 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: lot of live shows on the road at various universities. 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: So that's for then, this is for now. How should 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I best intro this segment? Colin? This one's gonna be dirty. Now, 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: this one's gonna make us no friends out there. But 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: you know what, it ain't me. It's the model. Yes, 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I say that during the season all the time, but 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm also saying it now. It's not me, it's the model. 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: So here we go, Colin, here's your endpoint. I realized 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: a long time ago that if I was going to 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: properly rank head coaches and coaching staffs, I just needed 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: to remove myself from the equation. I don't trust my 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: gut on this stuff. I don't trust my instinct because 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I like coaches too much. I enjoy hanging out with them, candidly, 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy conversing with coaches more than I do talking 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: to people in my own industry. And so I realized 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: I needed to get myself out of there because I 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: would be too I would be too lenient, and I 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: would be stopping well short of criticizing these guys. So 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: we needed some lifeless, emotionless grading criteria and scales and variables, 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: and we got it. And this thing has been so 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: dialed in that I realized it's one of the most 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: effective mechanisms that we have in house here, and thus 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: far I had not ever shared any of it, but 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: I told Jesse, I told Colin, we need to start 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: sharing this stuff. So tonight we're going to show you 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: some of our grading and some of our tiers for 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: every SEC coaching staff, not just head coach, but coaching staffs. 65 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Experience matters a whole lot in this We heavily value 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: experience games coached overall head coach, to the coordinators, to 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: then the support staff, which is the position coaches. Is 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: how the funnel works and how we prioritize and weight 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: our grading scale. And it is amazing to see how 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: much movement there is in modern day college football any 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: given year, what percentage of a staff turns over? Can 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: you keep your head coach, offensive coordator, defensive coordinator, a 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: special teams moves? Oklahoma made a massive special teams coordinator 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: higher Texas has got one of the best offensive coordinator, 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator combos and college football. So 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: all this stuff so fascinating to look at. Let's dive 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: into this. Okay, I'm not giving you this in any 78 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: particular order, but I am going to give you tiers 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: Tier one in the SEC. Right now. Ole Miss has 80 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: a Tier one coaching staff in the SEC. I think 81 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that surprises a lot of you. Candidly, it surprises me 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: that Lane Kiffin has gotten his overall staff to Tier 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: one status in the most talent rich environment in America, 84 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference. A lot of people look at ole 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Miss and they think transfer portal, You think talent acquisition. 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: You may not think elite coaching staff. They got a 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Tier one coaching staff down here. Now, they when accounting 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: for staff changes and overall staff grading changes, they upgrade 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: it at all eleven spots ole Miss across the board 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: upgraded from what they had this time last year. They 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: added two hundred and seventy four games of overall coaching experience, 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: which is a huge upgrade, and defensive support grade jumped 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: big time with the additions. They made ole Miss as 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: a Tier one coaching staff right now in the SEC. Now, 95 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: it's not going to surprise you. The next team is 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: Georgia on the list. So Georgia's absolutely got a Tier 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: one coaching staff. They had the number one staff in 98 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the SEC last year through the losses and the additions 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: they just made. It's crazy that their net score is unchanged. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: It just like not even plus or minus one percent. 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty unchanged. In our model here, I don't expect 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that to change. As long as Kirby Smart's there and 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: that infrastructure is in place, They're always going to have 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: a Tier one staff in the SEC head coach, offensive coordinator, 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: and defensive coordinator return and it's a machine there in Athens. 106 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: There actually is not a whole lot more to say 107 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: about them. That's not a surprise. The next team, I 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: think is going to surprise you, maybe to the degree 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: that Ole Miss surprises you. Auburn University right now. Tier 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: one coaching staff in the SEC. Hugh Freeze has a 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: lot to do with that. But you may think to yourself, 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: like I do. They lost both coordinators. They upgraded in 113 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: the aggregate, they upgraded. Now that overall staff upgrading despite 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: losing two coordinators. You can make of that what you 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: want to. They added one hundred and seventy six games 116 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: of overall coaching experience. The offensive support staff is down 117 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: just a little bit, but the defensive support staff grade 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: is actually up. And so I'm showing you on the 119 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: screen right now. Some of the guys they hired, like 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: they added DJ Diurkin defensive coordinator, linebacker, coach. You can 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: have whatever personal opinion you want of the guy. I 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: care strictly about numbers. He's not even a person to 123 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: this model. It's just a bunch of numbers. Charles Kelly 124 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: came in as CODC. Big time edition there and Auburn 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: in the aggregate, an actual Tier one coaching staff in 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: the SEC. I don't think many people would place them there. 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: If you just went off gut feel Auburn off the 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: top of your head, what do you think? And that 129 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: includes me. I would not have put him there. But 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: the overall system that we trust implicitly does put them there. 131 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Where's Alabama? Is Alabama still in the Tier one? Yes 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: they are. Alabama is a Tier one coaching staff. Nick 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Saban steps out, Kaylen de Bor steps in. Now. I 134 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: got to tell you something about a month ago when 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Debor had come in and he had hired Ryan Grubb 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: as his offensive coordinator and Scott Huff was going to 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: be the offensive line coach. That staff, if you pressed 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: pause on it was going to be one of our 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: three best in America. It's still one of the top ten, 140 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: top fifteen best in America. It is still good for 141 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Tier one status in the SEC. But those were losses. 142 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: So there's no way around that those were losses. They 143 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: lose a lot of experience. So this is where you 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: have to maybe insert yourself a little bit immunity. They 145 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: lost two hundred and twenty three games of overall coaching experience. Well, 146 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: that can very easily be dedicated to just losing Nick Saban, 147 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: who's been around forever, and replacing him with Kaylin de Boor. 148 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: That's a ton of experience that you lose. Not to 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: mention the experience is on the shoulders of Nick litteral 150 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Sabin that you're losing. The defensive support staff, though, is 151 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: what stands out here. Okay, you had Alabama under Nick 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: Saban last year and then Debor comes in and I've 153 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: been telling you, I think if you drill down a 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: little bit, they upgraded parts of this coaching staff. They 155 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: upgraded their defensive support staff. It's what they did. Colin Hitchler, 156 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: for example, is I believe the safety's coach there. That's 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: a big time get. That's one of the rising star 158 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: names in this business. It's one of the names that 159 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: we have circled. Their defensive support staff is up nearly 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: nine percent from what Nick Saban had last year. So 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you think Kaitlin de Boy, you think offensive minded guy, 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: it's the defense that got upgraded. Here those are the 163 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: tier one coaching staffs in the SEC right now old 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Miss Georgia, Auburn, Bama. That is in no particular order. 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Now we go to tier two again, in no particular order. 166 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Missouri a tier two coaching staff in the SEC. Big 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: note here, Okay, you know we're sky high on Kevin Peeples. 168 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: He was the d line coach there last year along 169 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: with Blake Baker. The defensive coordinator. Brian Kelly took him both. 170 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: They both went to LSU. Thinking to myself, that's gonna 171 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: be tough for Eli Drinkwitz. That's a massive drop off. 172 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, just Kevin Peeples alone is it's a huge, 173 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: like rock star name in the future of coaching on 174 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: the defensive side. And then he goes down to Houston. 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: He gets Brian early early is a we would have 176 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: him graded a four point five star caliber defensive line coach. Somehow, 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz lost stud defensive staffers and their defensive support 178 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: staff grade went up. I don't know that there is 179 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's better at hiring in this conference right 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: now than Eli Drinkwitz, especially when you account for the 181 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: fact that he's working in a little bit of a 182 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: disadvantaged position because he's the head coach at Missouri and 183 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: not Georgia or not Alabama or not LSU. In fact, 184 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: he's losing staffers two programs like LSU and finding a 185 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: way to upgrade, and he's not replacing trash like he's 186 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: replacing really good coaches. They had the third biggest staff 187 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: improvement grade across the board in the SEC, and Eli 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Drinkwot's great also improved because last year, since this is 189 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: a living, breathing grade, last year did them a lot 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: of favors too. But Missouri's got a legit coaching staff. 191 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I told you coming into last year, I think you'd 192 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: be surprised if you knew they have one of the 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five best staffs in the country. Maybe 194 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: people will still be surprised to know that's about where 195 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: they're going to be again this year. They are a 196 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: really solid, high level Tier two coaching staff in the SEC, 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: which places you way up there. Nationally. You notice I 198 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned Texas yet, which candidly surprised me a little bit. 199 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: I didn't cheat on this. I didn't look ahead of time. 200 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: I knew we were going to do this show in 201 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: this segment, so I did not look ahead of time. 202 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I would have thought Texas was going to be a 203 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Tier one staff. Texas, Texas, it may surprise you a 204 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: little bit, is a tier two staff in the SEC. 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Tier two in the SEC is really good. But when 206 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: you dive into it a little bit and you know 207 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: what we value, especially in terms of experience, it's not 208 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: so surprising. So Bo Davis went to LSU. If you're 209 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: noticing a theme, LSU really upgraded defensively. We'll get to 210 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: that in a second. Bo Davis was a four star 211 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: caliber defensive line coach known commodity, been around forever. They 212 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: replaced him with Kenny Baker. Kenney Baker came there by 213 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: way of the Dolphins, but he has no experience, So 214 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: the experience inversion there is going to downgrade their overall 215 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: support staff grade defensively quite a bit. But here's the 216 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: thing about Texas. When you look at the oc DC 217 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Special Teams Coordinator COMBO, which is a grade that some 218 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: people in our organization like to value a lot. They 219 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: are the highest graded staff in America when you go coordinators, 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: including special teams combined, because Texas has studs at all 221 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: three positions. There you got Sarkoff obviously is the OC. There, 222 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Pete Wakowski's the DC, and then Jeff Banks who's been 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: at Bama and been at Texas. Now they are about 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: as good as it gets in college football at those 225 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: three positions. Speaking of LSU, LSU solid tier two coaching 226 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: stifle in the SEC right now. It was the lowest 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: graded defensive staff in the conference last year, which is 228 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: exactly why they looked the way they did on the 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: field last year. No excuse for LSU to ever be 230 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: that bad on the defensive side of the ball. Well, 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: they realized it, and sure there was nowhere to go 232 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: butt up, but they really really really went up. They 233 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: led the SEC and defensive staff upgrade at nearly twenty 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: five percent, which I know doesn't mean a lot to 235 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: you unless you understand how this model works. It's a 236 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: huge jump. Kevin Peeples as I told you a new 237 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: defensive line guy there, he's big time. They added Bo 238 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Davis as well, both of those are four star plus 239 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: guys just being added. On the d line. They added 240 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five games of experience, and listen, 241 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: they lost Denbrock, they lost a four point five star 242 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: caliber offensive coordinator, tight ends coach, or they'd be up 243 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: there in Tier one right now. That's what drug LSU 244 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: as a staff grade down just below Tier one status. 245 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: But they couldn't have knocked it out of the park 246 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: anymore on their defensive upgrades. Now, does that mean they're 247 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: going to immediately just poof be a top ten defense 248 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: this year overnight. No, it won't because I don't think 249 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: they have the personnel to be that yet. But they 250 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: will be a heck of a lot better than they 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: were last year. And there's another Tier two staff out there. 252 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: Where do you think it may be? It's probably Knoxville, Tennessee. 253 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: So Tennessee also a Tier two SEC coaching staff right now. 254 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Their overall grade is pretty unchanged from last year. They 255 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: gained one hundred and fifty two games of overall experience. 256 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: There is not a whole lot to say about Tennessee because, 257 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: like I said, it didn't fluctuate a whole lot. It's 258 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: just a really solid tier two staff in the SEC. 259 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: And obviously, as you go further and further down the road, 260 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to keep the same guys like 261 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: Hypel could be the head coach there, and if they 262 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: pop a ten or eleven win season on you this 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: year and their offensive productions through the roof, his grade 264 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: could increase, and therefore standing overall could increase. This stuff 265 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: changes year to year. It's not static, and it's emotionless too, 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: So don't really matter whether you like Tennessee or not. 267 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: This thing has no clue who Josh Hypel is. It 268 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: just sees the title head coach and then it plugs 269 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: in the numbers accordingly. All right, let's get into Tier three, 270 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: cause there are some names conspicuous in their absence right 271 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: now that I know we're about to hear a lot 272 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: about Oklahoma. We've got as a Tier three coaching staff 273 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: in the SEC right now. Their overall staff grade increased 274 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: fourteen percent from last year. Brent Venables head coaching grade 275 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: accounted for a lot of that. His head coaching grade increased, 276 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: as you could imagine when you've got no head coaching 277 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: experience and then your first year is as his was, 278 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: and then you have year two like he did last year, 279 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: it's going to increase pretty substantially. Their offensive support staff dipped, 280 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: defensive support staff grade rose. They made a monster special 281 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: teams coordinator higher at Oklahoma. One of the biggest head 282 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: scratches we had is watching Doug Deacon, who was the 283 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator at San Diego State. He comes into Oklahoma. 284 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: There should have been about a seventeen way bidding war 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: for this guy's services, and as far as we could tell, 286 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: he did not have a lot of traction out there, 287 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: did not have a ton of major offers, and whatever 288 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Brent Venables saw in our opinion was the proper view, 289 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,359 Speaker 1: because Deacon is a massive special teams coordinator higher for Oklahoma. 290 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Like watch, that paid dividends immediately for them this year. 291 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Next up. Mark Stoops did some work once the season ended. 292 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: If I believed in the word off season, I'd use 293 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: it here. Mark Stoops got it done. Ever since last 294 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: season ended, they had the biggest offensive support staff increase 295 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: in the SEC. At Kentucky. They went and got Shorts, 296 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: who's the wide receivers coach. Big time upgrade, I mean 297 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: big time positional grade increase there. Their total staff grade 298 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: at Kentucky's up over four percent, had an excellent cycle. 299 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: They also went and got Wolford back from Alabama, the 300 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: offensive line coach that left there a couple of years ago. 301 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: But to kill Schwartz, that's the wide receiver coach. That's 302 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: the one we circle. That was the big get in 303 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: our opinion for Mark Stoops. And that's not a name 304 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna grab a lot of headlines, but that's not 305 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: what we build this for. Again, emotionless, just care about 306 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: grading guys, and to kill Schwartz is a big time 307 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: get from Mark Stoops. Okay, let's talk about Florida. So 308 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: I was waiting to get to this one. The Florida 309 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Gators right now we think have a Tier three coaching 310 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: staff in the SEC. They had big time shuffle down there. 311 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: The dB in offensive or out outside linebackers' positions we 312 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: think upgraded in the aggregate, but the defensive line change 313 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: did drop their overall defensive support staff grade. Austin Armstrong's 314 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the DC there. His grade dropped last year and that 315 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: brought the overall staff grade down pretty significantly. Because obviously 316 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: coordinators are right below head coaches in terms of what 317 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: we weight the heaviest. I'm very interested to see what 318 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: the staff does this year because also along with additions, 319 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: you have rumors of you know, changing and redelegating responsibilities 320 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: and various play calling roles and all of that's rumor 321 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: until you get to actual nuts and bolts of fall 322 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: camp and install, and then you get to the season, 323 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: then we find out. But right now we got Florida 324 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: as pretty solid staff. It's a tier three staff. I 325 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: know that sounds bad. It's really not like. It's a 326 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: lot of really competitive staffs in the SEC. Really good staffs. 327 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: When you got a lot of money to spend, that's 328 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: what you can do. Texas A and M wanted to 329 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: talk to you about them too. Texas A and M's 330 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: got an entirely new staff. We've got it initially pegged 331 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: as a tier three staff in the SEC. It's the 332 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: second biggest offensive support staff jump right behind Kentucky in 333 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the entire conference. They got better on the offensive side 334 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: of the ball. I don't think that shocks many people. 335 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: They got better over there. Now here's what I'm waiting 336 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: to see. I'm waiting to see who calls the defense. 337 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Mike Elko is the new head coach there, and Jay 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: Bateman is the new defensive coordinator. I want to know 339 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: who's calling the defense there because it would matter a 340 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: pretty great deal. This model is sitting here telling me 341 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: if Elko is the one calling the defense, it would 342 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: be worth a lot more in defensive staff grade than 343 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: if Jay Bateman is. It's not down on Bateman, it's 344 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: just way up on Mike Elco. Excellent base set up 345 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: here though, So this is a foundation, and then this 346 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: time next year, amm's coaching staff grade could fluctuate pretty 347 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: wildly because there's a lot of inexperience, there's a lot 348 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: of new That's the case anytime you have a new 349 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: coaching staff. This is not predictive though. The point is 350 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: I'm really big on Mike Elko, and this is me 351 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: personally talking, I'm really big on Elco. Even if the 352 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: overall system was predictive and it was high on Elko, 353 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: this is not a predictive grade. This is a here 354 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: and now grade. That would be like if the thermometer 355 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: says seventy four right now, but there's a snowstorm predicted 356 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. The thermometer is not going to proactively go 357 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: down to thirty two. It's going to wait for the 358 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: conditions to change and it will respond accordingly. So this 359 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: is meant to give us a real time grade based 360 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: on the criteria and the proper factors on coaching staffs. 361 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: All right, so those are the top three tiers that 362 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: we've got in the SEC. Now here's what I chose 363 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: not to do. I chose not to lay out all 364 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: of the rest of the conference because it's already a 365 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty minute segment, but I did want to specify something 366 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: with South Carolina. South Carolina we did not have in 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: the first three tiers. There. They have four hundred and 368 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: fifty two combined games of coaching experience on that staff 369 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: at South Carolina. That makes them the least experienced staff 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in the SEC. That matters for us, That matters for 371 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: the way that we wait things. That means you need 372 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: patience because it could be a really good staff and 373 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: we just don't know it. But what we are not 374 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: doing is building a model that's predictive or instinct based. 375 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: We are building it based on results. And so for 376 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: all we know, Shaneiemer's got the best staff in the SEC. 377 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: He could have the worst staff in the SEC. But 378 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: if it's that experienced at the very least, the model 379 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: is going to take a wait and see approach on it. 380 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Their staff grades also dropped. Therefore, in all three coaching 381 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: sectors again inexperience, patience, and I also wanted to mention 382 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Mississippi State because it's the same song and dance there. 383 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Leby's the new head coach. He's never been a 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: head coach before. There's not a lot of experience on 385 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the staff. Head coach and defensive coordinator have zero games 386 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: experience at their current positions. They could knock it out 387 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: of the park. Okay, it's not predictive, just means there's 388 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: no experience there. It's gonna take a wait and see approach. 389 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: But I will tell you one thing I'm personally watching. 390 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Leby is a top one percent play caller in 391 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: terms of pace of play. When you combine that with 392 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: an inexperienced or first time defensive coordinator, it normally does 393 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: not bode well. That's just speaking historically for obvious reasons. 394 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: If I got to do callin plays at a million 395 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: miles an hour over there, usually it means my defense 396 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: is going to be forced into sudden situations more and 397 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: there are going to be more quick transitions, and I'm 398 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to be on the field more. And if 399 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing, which some inexperienced guys don't, 400 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: then it could be long season. So those are some 401 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: things that we're watching SEC Coaching staff grades. Now I 402 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: know the comment section will be on fire. Here's what 403 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm asking you to do. Don't just tell me if 404 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: you disagree with something that you think it's wrong, tell 405 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: me why you think it's wrong. Give me your grading system, 406 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: give me your criteria. Because I laid out ours as 407 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: best I can. I'm not fully raising the curtain on it, 408 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: but I'll be happy to go back and forth with 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: this because I know why the model thinks what it thinks. 410 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: And I don't even necessarily agree across the board with 411 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: everything we have, but I do know why we have 412 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: what we have, all right, Nice little hello, nice little 413 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: introduction to the show Tonight. Late Kick Live is the 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: name of the show, and we do it a couple 415 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: times a week, throwing a podcast midweek for fun. You 416 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: know I should tell you while I have you here, 417 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: I am sometimes very quick to forget how many new 418 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: people we add to the show every month. Okay, So 419 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I have to remind the newcomers that number one, 420 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: we're happy to have you. Number two. The way we 421 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: do things this time of year, Sunday night, Thursday night, 422 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: we have a live show. Tuesday. Sometime during the day, 423 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: an extra podcast drops. We literally call it the Late 424 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast, but it's not on YouTube. You may 425 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: see some random clips from it, but the entire thing 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: is podcast form only, which means you got to go 427 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcast and subscribe while you're there. 428 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: So if you're not seeing it, if you hear me 429 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: talking about something but you're looking on the YouTube channel 430 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: and you don't see it, that's why it's a crazy 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: little scheme. We have to drive subscriptions in both places, 432 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: and since both places are free to subscribe, we don't 433 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: think it's too much to ask humbly. Maybe we're wrong, 434 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: but we don't think it's too much to ask. All Right, 435 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I've got I got so many places to go tonight, 436 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: so just settle in. We're just getting started. I have 437 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: this I have this thing about Johnny Manziel I wan 438 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: to talk about later. I'm really fired up about it. 439 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm glad he did what he did and if you 440 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know what he did yesterday or two days ago, 441 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. If I were to ask you, 442 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: what are the top quarterback rooms in college football this 443 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: upcoming year? Just like rattle them off the top of 444 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: your head, where would you go call? Someone asked me 445 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: that at the gym, So I said, Jesse, throw it 446 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: into the show. Let's talk about it. Texas has got 447 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: to be up there, okay, Quinn Ewers And a little 448 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: side conversation about this is how good is Quinn Owers. 449 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: It's NFL draft time and combine time right now. A 450 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: year from now, he'll be under a whole lot of scrutiny. 451 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: But I think we can get ahead of the curve there. 452 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's for another day yet, Quinn, You Weers 453 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: there a lot of experience now. Arch Manning is their apparent. 454 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: Trey Owens is a four star kid they just signed. 455 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: He won't figure into things this year. But we're talking 456 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: about depth of the quarterback room, so that matters. I 457 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: trust Steve Sarkisian implicitly as a play caller and developer 458 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, even without Malik Murphy who transferred 459 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: out of there to Duke this right here is one 460 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: of the best quarterback rooms in college football, Oregon. Keep 461 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that up for a second there, Colin calls Quinn Ewers. 462 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: I was asking that question about him. Three hundred or 463 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: more passing yards than six games last year, yet he 464 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: was surrounded with weaponry and again one of the very 465 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: best play callers in college football in my opinion, And 466 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: my question is, how do you think about him? We're 467 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: in this world now where you're either elite or you're trash. 468 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Quinn Owers is neither of those. I look at him 469 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: as a pretty good college quarterback with the ceiling probably 470 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: a little bit higher than what he's reached so far. 471 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: That's okay. God gives you three or four years to 472 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: play this sport for a reason. As MEMI used to say, 473 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: what's reasonable to expect ad Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, Whittington, Jadavian 474 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Sanders are all at the door this year. They got 475 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: a hope that they hit big time in the portal. 476 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: What's reasonable? Is there another notch or two up the 477 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: ladder that he can climb this year? All right? Those 478 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: are kind of rhetorical. Those are future facing questions. Oregon 479 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: certainly certainly one of the best quarterback rooms in the 480 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: country is in Eugene, Oregon. Dylan Gabriel they just added 481 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: via the portal. Dante More, they just added via the portal. 482 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: This is college Football Circle twenty twenty four because this 483 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: time last year, we had no clue either of these 484 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: guys could even point to Oregon on a map, much 485 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: less actually find their way there to play. Now More 486 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: probably could because he visited there and he was committed 487 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: there at one point. But you get what I mean, 488 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. I don't pick fights internally here. It's just 489 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: not good business. But our twenty four to seven Sports 490 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Portal rankings had Gabriel Jesse what was it is the 491 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: number twelve overall quarterback. And I look at that and 492 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I just shake my head. Reasonable minds can disagree there 493 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: were not twelve better available at the position than Dylan Gabriel. 494 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go ahead and tell you I don't 495 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: think there was one or two better. I have to 496 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: cover my mouth like Gus Malsan when I say that, 497 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: so they can't read my lips. Gabriel was their best 498 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: option and they went and got him. So as far 499 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, they hit a home run, maybe a 500 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: grand slam at Oregon, and then for good measure, they 501 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: went and got Dante Moore, who, in a rare, rare 502 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: move this day and age, serves as their next guy. 503 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: So they went and got their initial guy and their 504 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: next guy both out of the portal and Gabriel last 505 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: year over three thousand yards, thirty touchdowns, six interceptions, added 506 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: twelve more on the ground. I was there at the 507 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl when he did what he did against Texas, 508 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think Oregon could have done twelve 509 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: guys better than Dylan Gabriel this past cycle. In the portal. 510 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Let us talk about the Florida Gators for the second 511 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: time tonight, but in a much different context. One of 512 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: the great mysteries of last year was how bad as 513 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: a team Florida ended up being, despite how good secretly 514 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: Graham Mertz ended up being at quarterback. Because I got 515 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: to give Billy Napier a lot of credit. He talked 516 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: all last summer about how they evaluated the entire portal 517 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: and they looked at all the quarterbacks available and they 518 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: thought that Mertz was the best option for them. And 519 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: you know what, he was right. Graham Mertz had a 520 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: pretty good year last year and now they added DJ Lagway, 521 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: who is the future at the position. But in the meantime, 522 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Graham Mertz has come back and last year twenty touchdowns 523 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: three picks was a seventy three percent completion. Guy. I mean, 524 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: they've got they've got good enough talent at quarterback, both 525 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: now and in the future. And it's why it's tough. 526 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I know you may view Florida football as being on 527 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: life support, and a lot of people are going to 528 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: have that staff on their hot seat lists, and I 529 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: don't know that that's unfair. I'm just saying, when you 530 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: check the quarterback box, it's tough for me to just 531 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: write you off completely. Maybe maybe that'll happen despite the 532 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: quarterback position, but it's tough for me to write teams 533 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: off when I like them, though I do Florid at 534 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. What about Ohio State? A lot of 535 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: fun and exciting times ahead in Columbus. So Ryan Day 536 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: goes out and he gets Will Howard out of the 537 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: portal that was the quarterback at Kansas State last year. 538 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: And you know they already got Devin Brown, who was 539 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: locked in that battle with Kyle mccordal at this time 540 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: last year. Then they went and got Bama's five star kid, 541 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: and Julian's saying, and they've got their own and Aaron 542 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Nolan and so they've got a loaded quarterback room by 543 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: depth standards. But the irony is Will Howard figures to 544 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: be the starter this year, and he's not a sure 545 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: fire stud like he's he's not sure of fire all 546 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: big ten potential. He's shown that he's a pretty good 547 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: player at the position, and certainly he won't have to 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: shoulder the entire load. They got a dominant one to 549 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: two in the backfield. They will have one of the 550 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: best defenses in the country. So we're not looking for 551 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: a guy to put up pinball numbers here, but we 552 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: are looking for a guy to make the right decisions 553 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: in the three or four clutch moments this year that 554 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: it'll take for them to be a ten win team 555 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: versus going to the national championship. And so this is interesting. 556 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has come in there as well as the 557 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. It's interesting because if we were talking about 558 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: overall quarterback rooms, which we are, Ohio State's way up there, 559 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: but if we're talking about ranking starting quarterbacks, I don't 560 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: know that they've got a top five guy in the 561 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: country right now if it's Will Howard, but he's good 562 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: enough for them to win with so interesting times. What 563 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: about Georgia. We were down there last week to say 564 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: that Georgia has breathed a sigh of relief the size 565 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: of Athens with Carson Beck choosing to return would be 566 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: an understatement. I know that you know how big a 567 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: deal it is for him to return, but you're still 568 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: not viewing it in nearly as big a terms as 569 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: they are, because this is a total game changer for 570 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: them to get him to return. I think Carson Beck's 571 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: the most important returning quarterback in the country this year. 572 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Four thousand yard guy last year, nearly seventy two percent completion, 573 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty four to six TD to I int ratio. And 574 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: even after they lost Riola, he decommitted and he goes 575 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: to Nebraska got Ryan Piglsi, who candidly I love just 576 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: as much as Riola did or I did Riyola. So 577 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton's there as well. They've got a really really 578 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: good quarterback room there. And also, let's not kid ourselves. 579 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Much like Oregon on the West coast, George is going 580 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: to be a prime destination if they do ever need 581 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: to go to the portal to pick up guys at 582 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: that position as well. And Alabama's got to be up 583 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: here as well. So we get an offensive minded head 584 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: coach in Kaylin de Boor that comes in who has 585 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: got a track record of squeezing every ounce of potential 586 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: out of every quarterback he's ever touched. And then Jalen 587 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: Milrose there, who had a good but far from perfect 588 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: season last year. There's still a lot of his game 589 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: that could be improved, and now that's what Kaylin Debor inherits. 590 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: But also they got Ty Simpson still there. Lanergan is 591 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: an extremely underrated guy that they talk a lot about internally, 592 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: but no one else in America knows anything about yet. 593 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: And then they imported Austin Mack. Austin Mack was up 594 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: there with them at Washington last year and they brought 595 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: him in via transfer to Alabama. Austin Mack is how 596 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: should I describe him? He makes Jaylen Milroe look pretty 597 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: average size by comparison, and Milroe is a tank. Austin 598 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Mack is just a monster and has hasn't really started 599 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but they think he may be 600 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: the future there, so I don't expect all four of 601 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: those guys to stay at Alabama. But in the here 602 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: and now, Bama's got one of the best quarterback rooms 603 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: in the country as well. All right, let's move along. 604 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Let's move along. Hey, I'm gonna show you something randomly. 605 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Do you see this? You see this picture? This is 606 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: in my note right now. If you're listening on podcasts, 607 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: just picture a skeleton holding a cup of coffee, Like, 608 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: what could that possibly be? In my notes for I 609 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: promise there will come a point in this show tonight 610 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: where that picture makes sense. You know how rarely I 611 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: believe in using visual aids. Look at how bland this 612 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: background is. You're lucky it's even colored. So yeah, it's 613 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a happening show eventually tonight, Jesse, did we 614 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: have a question about sleeping giant programs? I'm looking at 615 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: the feed over here, I'm looking at the delayed feed 616 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: on my laptop and I'm just now holding up the 617 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: picture of that skeleton and creep me out a little bit. Oh, 618 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: a text from Billy Lucci. It's good to hear from him. 619 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we got one from Seth Seth in Boston, 620 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: asked me what sleeping giant program would you most like 621 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: to see return to the top of the sport in 622 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Now, Seth, I don't know that any 623 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: of these programs are going all the way to the 624 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: mountaintop in twenty twenty four, but I do have four 625 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: of them that I just wanted to discuss briefly. I 626 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: got some eye popping numbers, maybe some paper popping numbers here. 627 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: So Nebraska is always the go to here because when 628 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: I was a youth down in Georgia and Nebraska was 629 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: a superpower, and I also learned learned about Nebraska from 630 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: once upon a time, way back in the day. There 631 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: were superpower then as well. And then whatever changed about 632 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: college football changed and it seemed to have left Nebraska behind. 633 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: And there is a debate even today about whether Nebraska 634 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: could ever ascend back to the mountaintop. We view their 635 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: mountaintop obviously as the Tom Osborne nineties era Nebraska teams. 636 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Did you know that there was a period from eight 637 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen where they had seven straight nine plus 638 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: win seasons. I don't even think people remember this nationally. 639 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Nebraska fans probably do. Bo Polini hardly anyone liked as 640 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: a dude, and so they really were willing to overlook 641 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he was putting up pretty decent numbers 642 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: as a head coach, but they thought they could do better. 643 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: It's like Dan Mullen at Florida. Numbers were good, they 644 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: thought they could do better, so they got rid of him, 645 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: and they haven't been back there since. They have not 646 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: had a winning record since twenty sixteen. So enter Matt 647 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Ruhle and Dylan Ryola. They got him to decommit from Georgia, 648 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: so you got the quarterback box checked hopefully on sky 649 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: high on their defense and their defensive staff, like they 650 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: got a really really underrated good defensive staff Mountaintop Ken 651 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Nebraska get back there. I'd love to see it. They're 652 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: over under this year seven and a half wins, so 653 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: it's unlikely that they're, you know, knocking on the door 654 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: of the title game this year, but it would be 655 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: fun and a nice little experiment about the future of 656 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: college football and what isn't isn't possible? Speaking of programs 657 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: that really were getting it done back in the nineties 658 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: and two thousands, Virginia Tech would love to see Virginia 659 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: Tech reassent, So Frank Beamer gets hired there in eighty seven. 660 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: He did not have a six or more win season 661 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: for six years. Would Frank Beemer even be able to 662 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: make it to year seven this day and age, I 663 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: don't think he would. But they hung in there with 664 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: him at Virginia Tech, and so he gets hired in 665 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: eighty seven, doesn't even pop a six or more win 666 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: season on them until what nineteen ninety three, But then 667 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: from ninety five to twenty eleven, here's how the patients 668 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: paid off. They had eight or more wins sixteen of 669 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: those seventeen years. Thirteen of the seventeen years in that 670 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: timeframe they had double digit win seasons. And if you're 671 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: in my high school or college age crowd, you don't 672 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: remember Virginia Tech as being a national powerhouse. Virginia Tech 673 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: was a national powerhouse and it could be again. I 674 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: think that one of the biggest stories in college sports, 675 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: in college football the past couple of decades has been 676 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: the ACC as a collective totally dropping the ball. Clemson 677 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: covered up a lot of really mediocre, below average play 678 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: there because Clemson was carrying the entire torch for the Conference. 679 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: Florida State for a long time, not nearly what they 680 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: should have been. Miami has not been at all what 681 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: they should be. The Virginia schools have dropped the ball fantastically. 682 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina should be so much better than they have been, 683 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: but none of them have been. And so Virginia Tech 684 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: would be nice if one or more of them would 685 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: step back on the main stage, because Florida State's doing 686 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: their part now, Clemson's been done their part. Brent Prye 687 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: just had a first winning season there since twenty nineteen, 688 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: so early returns are good for the staff. Again, we're 689 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: talking about getting to the mountaintop, like Mike Vick played 690 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: for a national championship at Virginia Tech. Could they ever 691 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: get back there? Time will tell. What about Tennessee, Tennessee, 692 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: nothing's changed about the structure of the sport like it's 693 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: still built for Tennessee. Phil Former won a national title 694 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: there in nineteen ninety eight. He won well. He and 695 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: other coaches won nine or more games fifteen times from 696 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: eighty nine to two thousand and seven. And unlike some 697 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: of these other programs where you think that things have 698 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: to change fundamentally, nothing about college football needs to change. 699 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Fundamentally for Tennessee to go back to the mountaintop. The 700 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: only thing that's been in Tennessee's wegs Tennessee and occasionally 701 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: a misguided NCAA investigation or two. But By and Lars, 702 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: they've taken care of that. So they dropped the elbow 703 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: in the NC DOUBLEA. But Tennessee could not get out 704 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: of Tennessee's own way for a long time. There is 705 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: nothing about the sport holding them back. One of the 706 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: hottest debates I remember ever having in my radio days 707 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: was I would get a fans sometimes that would call 708 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: in and this is like Derek Dooley era Tennessee, and 709 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: they would be calling and saying, Tennessee just can't win anymore. 710 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: They can't win a national title anymore. The sports passed 711 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: them by. I'm like, what are you talking about. The 712 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: sports passed them by. Nothing changed. It still takes the 713 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: same thing to win today. They still have the same 714 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: resources they always had. It's just that they can't get 715 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: out of their own way. It's really hard to It's 716 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: really hard to have the kind of synergy in place 717 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: that it takes to win at the highest levels. That's 718 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: why you appreciate even when these rich programs were able 719 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: to pull it off. You appreciate it because there are 720 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of rich programs out there delivering poverty results. 721 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: As me Mal would say, so Tennessee just they were 722 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: secret poverty for a little while. But the resources never were, 723 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: the access to talent never was. Neeland Stadium wasn't any 724 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: less awesome on Saturday because Tennessee was struggling to make 725 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: a bowl game. But they could be back there tomorrow. 726 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: They could be right back there, and they're not that 727 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: far away. The odds to win the SEC championship this year, 728 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: they've got the sixth best odds like, they won't be 729 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: too far down the national championship odds board. They're a 730 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: player now, but taking that next step that would get 731 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: them back into territory. That again, if you're in my 732 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: college age crowd, you've never seen them occupy and you 733 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: knew I wasn't doing this segment without mentioning Miami. Please, Yeah, 734 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: Miami belongs here. Yeah, I'd love to see Miami as 735 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: one of the prime players of college football again. Their 736 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: last national title was in one but oh Friends. From 737 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three to two thousand and three, fourteen of 738 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: those twenty one seasons Miami won double digit games, and 739 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: they have only won one digit season since four. Did 740 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: the structure of the sport change, Not necessarily. It's just 741 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: Miami being in Miami's own way, and if Miami gets 742 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: out of Miami's own way, Miami can do special things. Again, 743 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it helped they tore down the Orange 744 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: Bowl either, But you know what I am. I am 745 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: a believer in the Los Angeles Dodgers philosophy of Miami 746 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: home games. You will have to provide the folks a winner. 747 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: But if you do provide them a winner, they will 748 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: show up. They will show up, But unlike some of 749 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: these places with blind loyalty, they are not showing up 750 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: if you're anything less than a winner. The number one 751 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: ingredient in this sport to win at the highest levels 752 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: has always been, and will always be talent. Having the 753 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: ingredients does not guarantee a good meal, but not having 754 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: the ingredients guarantee of starvation. One of my most famous quotes, 755 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: she wasn't talking about Miami, but in this case we're 756 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: talking about Miami. So Nebraska, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Miami, give 757 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: them to me. Would love to have every single one 758 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: of them back at the party. We're gonna talk about Michigan, 759 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: aren't we. And we're gonna talk about Johnny Manziel. Johnny 760 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: Manziel's is holding the Heisman hostage in a way? Will 761 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: it work? I'll talk to you about it. Hold on, 762 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: we have to take a sip from the chalice. We 763 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: have to reacquire a lip bomb, being very careful with 764 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: the form we use because haters are everywhere waiting to pounce. Uh, 765 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: show me that tweet about Michigan there, Colin, thank you 766 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: so much. Logan from Mount Pleasant, Michigan beautiful this time 767 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: of year, said, Hey, what do you think are Michigan's 768 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: chances of repeating this year? Should we expect anything less? Yeah? 769 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: You should. Michigan's not going to repeat as a national champion. 770 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: Now never say never, So I should tell you FanDuel 771 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: has them with the eighth best odds to win the 772 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: national title. Their over underwin total is nine and a half. 773 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: I think it's totally unrealistic to expect that they would 774 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: be in that mix again this year. Crazier things have happened. 775 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: How wild is it? By the way Michigan played Washington 776 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: for the national championship two months ago. They are numbers 777 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty nine and one hundred and thirty 778 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: in returning production this upcoming year. Neither head coach is 779 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: still there, neither quarterback. Like obviously everything changed. It's one 780 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: of the great lone star songs in nineties country. Everything's changed, 781 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: and they might as well have been seeing about Seattle 782 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: and Arbor. So JJ McCarthy out, that's your QB one, 783 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: running back one, wide, receivers one and two gone. Vast 784 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: majority of that offensive line, six of the top seven 785 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: are gone. They sent eighteen guys to the combine. It 786 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: usually means that you're gonna be missing a lot of 787 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: talent that did whatever you did with them the previous year. 788 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Whole new staff as well. So that doesn't mean it's 789 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: the end of the road. Just means that, well, it's 790 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: the end of that road, but it's the start of 791 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: a new one potentially. Just don't know how wide the 792 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: road's going to be, how long the road's going to be. 793 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Alex Orgy at quarterback. Fascinating, fascinating experiment coming up here. 794 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: I was reading some of Sam web stuff a little 795 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: while ago, just kind of getting engauge on what they 796 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: think about him internally. If they're right about him internally, 797 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: he'll probably surprise a lot of people given how inexperienced 798 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: he is with the grasp that he has on the 799 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: system they run up there. So there's confidence in him internally. 800 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: But that's not the first time we've heard that pre 801 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: spring about guys and then they don't pan out. So 802 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: it's not a guarantee. It's just it's what we have 803 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: to go on right now. But he's inexperienced and he's 804 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: surrounded by inexperience, and that's probably the toughest part of 805 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what Michigan's going to be offensively 806 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: this year. So what are the fair expectations? Man? I 807 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: can't tell you how to think. I'll tell you if 808 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: I was a Michigan fan, I just be hoping not 809 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: to fall off the road into the ditch this year. 810 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: Don't bottom out, you know it. Don't go from winning 811 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: the title to barely making a Bowl game like TCU 812 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: kind of did last year to previous year. Don't have 813 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: that happen. And then whatever you are against Fresno State 814 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: in Texas weeks one and two, make sure you're a 815 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: much better version than that by the time you play 816 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: Northwestern in Ohio State at the end of the year, 817 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: because if that happens, if week over week progression is obvious, 818 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: that means you probably have the right guys in place. 819 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore right on down the rest of the assistant 820 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: coaching ladder, No, I would be utterly stunned if they 821 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: won a championship this year. I just hope they don't. 822 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: You fall off the map entirely because it's reasonable to 823 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: expect a reset button to get hit for the team. 824 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not program wide and that's where my expectations 825 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: are on Michigan. Right now, they're watching us in Austin, Texas, 826 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: Panama City Beach, Florida, and Manassas, Virginia. Thank you guys 827 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: so much. Who's been waiting to talk about this since 828 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: I saw it pop up yesterday? To me a favor. 829 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: If you're watching live or if you're listening to the pod, 830 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed to the channel. Why because 831 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: that is how we make more money and buy Bradley 832 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: the associate lunch every day. So if you want him 833 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: to go hungry, then whatever. Shirk your responsibilities as if 834 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: you were a listener and don't subscribe. I ask that 835 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: you have a heart just twenty twenty four and provide 836 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: Bradley a meal. With just one subscription, you could feed 837 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: a child in need. Boy, oh boy, Johnny Manziel has 838 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: done it. Now. Douglas hit me up and said, how 839 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: do you feel about Johnny Manziel boycotting the Heisman ceremony 840 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: until they let Reggie Bush back into the fold. Well? 841 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: I love it with a capital L love it. Let 842 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I don't talk about the Heisman 843 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: much as you've noticed. I'm not gonna say it's always 844 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: been because of Reggie. I've been turned off for a 845 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: long time because of how they've handled the Reggie Bush thing. 846 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: So when I saw Johnny Manziel say this, I went 847 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: huge fist bump. I got a feeling on this. I 848 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: got a pretty strong feeling. Reggie Bush is gonn end 849 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: up getting that Heisman back. And let me tell you why. 850 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: I got two reasons. Number one, because everyone knows it's 851 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: dumb to begin with. But even if you disagree with 852 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: me on that, and you say no, there are valid reasons, 853 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: what are they? Because I'll tell you what was the 854 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: valid reason the Heisman trust a couple of years ago 855 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: came out and said, we'd be happy to take him 856 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: back if the NC double A reinstates his numbers. But 857 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: when they levied the sanctions against the USC and they 858 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: revoked all the wins, it also revoked Reggie Bush's numbers 859 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: and they found him guilty of impermissible benefits. Yep, got 860 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: you there. You don't need to reschool me on that. 861 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: But in case you haven't noticed, in the language of 862 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: this award, where it says the recipient must be in 863 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: compliance with bylaws defining a student athlete, federal courts have 864 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: totally torched that. It was bs the entire time. Not 865 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: according to JP, according to the federal courts, And so 866 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: the NC double A is not going to change this. 867 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: Like they're on the record as saying we're not going back, 868 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: we're not revisiting old cases. The sanctions that we levied 869 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: out in one model upon a time are there. It 870 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what changed in the future. I get that logic, 871 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: but there's a big difference in saying what once was 872 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: illegal is now legal. But if you ran a foul 873 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: of the law when it was illegal, you deserve your punishment. 874 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: We can't retroactively take your punishment away. That's true, unless 875 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: federal courts come along and say no, no, no, no no. 876 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 1: It was always bs. It was always a charade. It 877 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: never was legal. That's why you have class action losses 878 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: being brought against you. So if you're the Heisman trust, 879 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: you can do one of two things. You can either 880 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: hide behind that scapegoat of well, hey, we're happy to 881 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: do it if the NCUBA does it, or you can 882 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: stop waiting for the NC DOUAA to do the right thing. 883 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: You see, my friend, here, you see the skeleton that dude, 884 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: And this is what it looks like when you're waiting 885 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: for the NC DOUBA to do the right thing. Imagine 886 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: waiting for the NC DOUBLEA to do the right thing 887 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to how you hand out your own trophy. 888 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: You don't need the NC DOUBLEA. You never did need 889 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: see the NC DOUBLEA. And it's about as simple a 890 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: win as you can get. Do it because what you 891 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: don't want is what I think is about to happen. 892 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel is not going to be the last guy 893 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: to take this stand. He's the first one. But you 894 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: really think Johnny Manziel is the only guy on that 895 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: stage of Heisman Trophy former winners who feel the way 896 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: they do about Reggie Bush, like you really think that 897 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: you won't have more guys, probably as early as Monday 898 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: of next week, step out and say, yeah, I'm with 899 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. If we don't overturn this thing. If Reggie 900 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: Bush is not there in December in New York City 901 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: with us on stage, consider me a no show. What's 902 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna happen. So you can either wait 903 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: until the eleventh hour and have egg all over your face, 904 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: or go ahead and do the right thing and overturn 905 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: a decision that should have been overturned a long time ago. 906 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, by the way, got ninety one point seven 907 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: seven percent of total points in five The only person 908 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: to ever win the Heisman Trophy with a higher point 909 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: total is Joe Burrow. So I think Manziel said Reggie 910 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: Bush is the Heisman Trophy. He pretty much is. He 911 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: pretty much is the definition of the Heisman Trophy. If 912 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: you want to have some fun later tonight and you're 913 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: sixteen years old, just go watch the highlights, man, Just 914 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: go watch the highlights. People people I imagine sometimes like 915 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: folks who didn't watch college football or football in general, 916 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: and they just kind of because their buddies are watching 917 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: college football. 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We had a question, 976 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: all right, So one of our buddies from Mac and 977 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: Georgia said, Hey, give us the inside scoop on that 978 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: trip to Georgia. How was it like behind the scenes. 979 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: Happy to do so as much as I can. I 980 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: wish so badly that I could take you guys with 981 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: me on some of these trips. I do as much 982 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: as I can with the Instagram story at late kick, Josh, 983 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: but you would not believe the intensity in these places 984 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: Georgia as much as anyone. The intensity in that building 985 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: in late February off the charts. You can't have a 986 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: mail it end day. Think about your place of business, 987 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: wherever you were. You could drive a Pepsi truck for 988 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: all I know. You could work for an insurance company. 989 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: There are days where you show up to work you 990 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: just don't have it, and it's okay, you'll just make 991 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: up for it tomorrow. It doesn't exist there. It doesn't 992 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: exist there. Everyone's walking a tight rope every single minute 993 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: of every day. Everyone's moving in the facility with the 994 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: exact same purpose. It's like I love trains. It's like 995 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: watching a freight train moved by it sixty miles an hour, 996 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: and every car is going to the exact same direction 997 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: and exact same destination in mine, but the city you 998 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: would expect in the middle of a game week in 999 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: October or November. It's like that year round. It's like 1000 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 1: that year round. The only two places that I've ever 1001 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: felt it to that degree are Bama under Saban, Georgia 1002 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: under Smart. Obviously a lot of connectivity there, a lot 1003 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: of connective tissue, and a lot of the folks at 1004 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 1: one place have worked at the other place. It's amazing. 1005 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: It's amazing. You feel a heightened sense of awareness, even 1006 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: though like I'm not on the staff, I have nothing 1007 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: to do with our operation. But when you're in the 1008 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: building doing work of your own, just in that environment, 1009 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: just being plugged in that environment and immersed in that 1010 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of culture, even for a day, it impacts you. 1011 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: Not in a negative way either. The links and the 1012 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: detail that they go to for their culture building stand 1013 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: out to me a whole lot. I won't delve into details, 1014 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of that stuff we get access to 1015 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: with the trade off that we shut our mouths about it, 1016 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: but just suffice it to say, when you watch them 1017 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: in the fall, it's not an accident the way they play. 1018 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: They got really talented football players, they got the best 1019 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: coaching staff in the SEC. But the culture's rock solid too. 1020 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: That's why if you'll remember this time last year, there 1021 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: were some negative headlines about the program. They had problems 1022 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: with like street racing, and they had had tragedy happen 1023 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, and then subsequently they had some 1024 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: guys get in trouble, which they handled internally. But there 1025 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: was a certain publication in the state that came out 1026 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: and accused them of a lot of stuff that was false, 1027 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: and the people responsible for that has since been fired. 1028 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: That's how false it was. But the accusation of them 1029 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,479 Speaker 1: having a culture problem, they took it really personally because 1030 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: they didn't have one. They had problems, but it wasn't 1031 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: a culture, It wasn't rooted in bad culture. The reason 1032 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: they took it so personal is because they've actually been 1033 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: as aggressive as any prog out there in installing culture 1034 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: building in the positive direction, and you see it when 1035 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: you go in there. It's just most people don't get 1036 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: that access, but it's pretty impressive. And you're talking about 1037 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: taking time away from football activities to do that stuff too. 1038 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: You don't get to add hours in the day. You 1039 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: got to decide we're reallocating because that stuff's that important. 1040 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: The staff churn, we got to see it. We got 1041 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: to see it because when I was over there last week, 1042 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: it's right when Dell McGee had left, the running backs 1043 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: coach had left to take the head coaching job at 1044 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: Georgia State. Now they love that, they love that. I mean, 1045 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,479 Speaker 1: most of these big time programs have support staffs where 1046 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: virtually every guy wants to either be a coordinator or 1047 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: head coach one day. They're all alphas. That's how they hire. 1048 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: That's the makeup of most of those staffs. George is 1049 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: no different. So, I mean, everyone is ecstatic for Dell McGee, 1050 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: former coach at Carver of Columbus down there in my backyard. 1051 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: But when those coaches leave, they know how good your 1052 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: building is and they want to take as many guys 1053 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: in that building as they can. And that's always a fun, 1054 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: little delicate balance to observe of. We're happy to help 1055 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: the guy off to his next job. And then as 1056 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: soon as he gets it, hey, don't look back here. 1057 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: You don't want any of these guys. No, No, you 1058 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: go hire from somewhere else. And it's it's delicate. It's delicate, 1059 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: And got to observe a little bit of that last week. 1060 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: But that's college football, man. That happens everywhere. The misconception 1061 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: also of whining versus legit concern. It's something we touched 1062 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: on the Curby when we talk to him, and it's 1063 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: something that every time I talk with coaches it's always reinforced. 1064 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 1: Is right now? Parts of the sport are a mess, 1065 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: and so a lot of coaches are complaining about it. 1066 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: Complaining sometimes is all is misconstrued across the board is whining. 1067 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: And the thinking obviously is well, you get paid a 1068 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 1: lot of money, deal with it, which on one hand 1069 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 1: is an understandable latitude. But on the other hand, what 1070 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: I try and emphasize, because of the guys that we're 1071 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: around are talking to a lot is no, a lot 1072 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: of them aren't whining. In fact, a lot of them 1073 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: kind of love the grind, like they're happy to embrace that. 1074 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: They're not looking for you to take work off of 1075 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: their plate or anything. Like that. Kirby put it really 1076 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: well last week. He said, I don't care about the 1077 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: rest of it. If I could just know who's on 1078 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 1: my team for a year, that'd be fine. Everything else 1079 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: will deal with it. It's hard work, it's what we 1080 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: get paid for. If you could just tell me who's 1081 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on my team for that year, not four years, 1082 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: that year, I'd be okay. I agree with him. That's 1083 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: not the that's not the boldest ask, that's not the 1084 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: tallest ask in the world to just want to know 1085 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: who's on your team. And there are a million different 1086 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: loopholes and a bunch of red tape around that statement. 1087 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: But from ten thousand feet I think it's pretty valid. 1088 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: There's not. There wasn't a lot of man I wish 1089 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: that install another dead man. I wish I could take 1090 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,439 Speaker 1: another vacation. It wasn't anything like that. Some of these dudes, 1091 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: if they had more vacation, would still come into the 1092 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: office because that's just the nomadic lifestyle they live. So 1093 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: I thought some valid concerns were raised and some tangible 1094 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: reasons were given on that front. And I will also 1095 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: tell you guys this now, mainly Georgia fans will care 1096 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: about this. Georgia just landed the number one recruiting class 1097 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: in the country. You know that got some guys out 1098 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: of the portal. You know that Ben You're a SEC 1099 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: is a tight end from Stanford. I keep an eye 1100 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: on him. I think they like him a lot, and 1101 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: therefore I think I like him a lot. So just 1102 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the old tight end from Stanford. 1103 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: He was banged up last year, had a little shoulder issue, 1104 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: I think, so it didn't put up big numbers last year, 1105 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: but they got him in there, and obviously they've got 1106 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: a deep tight end room already, but that one's a 1107 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: little bit different, little bit different skill set, So just 1108 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. Being You're a SEC. All right. 1109 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: That's our show tonight. I appreciate it so much. 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