1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. It's going to be a blood bath for 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: left wingers on the program today, we have got a 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: loaded program. Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt will be with us. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Big Supreme Court case that deserves a lot of attention. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: I think, focused on what the government can and cannot 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: do to restrict the speech of people that might disagree 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: with on social media. Could be a major, important, very 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: significant precedent that is going to be set coming out 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: of this case. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: We will discuss at two o'clock. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: She has got a book that is absolutely dominating, dominating 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to such an extent that The New York Times is 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: pretending and it doesn't even exist, which is a sign 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: that it's making them a little bit uncomfortable. Abigail Schreier 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: will be with us, and I think that conversation is 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: going to be fantastic. That's the top of the third hour. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: This is a book that I'm going to tell you 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: guys in advance. We get a lot of books sent 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: to us. I was actually very very excited when this 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: book arrived at the house and I've already started reading it, 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: and I would encourage you guys to do so as well. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: We will discuss that in more. But Buck, first of all, 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: hope everybody had fabulous weekends. If you're watching on video, 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I had an incredible time at the beach, such that 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I am very tan, maybe even a little bit red, 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: but that was a great Friday. I appreciate you carrying 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the program on Friday. I am back in Nashville and 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: ready to roll with the NCAA tournament underway. Buck may 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: even fill out a bracket. We'll see if he has 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: any knowledge about the fact that the brackets were released 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: officially yesterday. 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: It's beginner's luck, Clay, So all the smart money out 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: there is going to pile in behind whatever nonsense I 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: put on my bracket, and I'm doing it. 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I've got my final four picks. I'll hit you with 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: those maybe as we got price picks ads. We'll talk 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: about that a little bit. But Buck, you and I 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: have been talking for basically two years now, since we 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: knew that Trump was going to run. 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: What game plan? 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: I wrote a whole book about it, Basically, what game 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: plan are democrats going to run to try to keep 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Trump from the White House in twenty twenty four, and 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: in my book American Playbook, I said, they don't have 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: any new ideas. They're going to go back and rerun 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: the same plays that they have over. 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: And over and over again. 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: And I think in the back of our minds, we thought, man, 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: there has to be something new. And to be fair, 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I think they layered on the ninety one criminal charges, 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the DC South Florida, New York City, and Atlanta charges, 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: but that has really, I think, sort of bounced back 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: on them and reverberated on the side of Trump actually 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: been very beneficial to him so far. And so they're 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: left with just a couple of things. One is abortion, 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: which is why they had Kamala Harris touring an abortion facility, 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: which is really kind of unheard of in Minnesota to 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: actually have a vice president. We moved very quickly from safe, 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: legal and rare to abortion is a good thing and 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: everyone should get one, which which seems to be what 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris wants to argue. And now we're on to 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: January sixth, and they are going to be incredibly deceitful, 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: just like they were. Remember Joe Biden said the whole 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: reason he ran for president was because of what happened 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: at Charlottesville, and he actually has used the very fine 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: people lie as the very foundation of his entire campaign. 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Well over the weekend, Trump is campaigning in Ohio. 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: We have a ton of you listening in Ohio. 71 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I think we've been number one in Columbus, Cleveland, and 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati at different points over the past several years. So Ohio, 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you are well represented in this audience. You have a 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: big primary on Tuesday. You may well in your hands. 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Ohioans hold the future control of the United States Senate 76 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: because if you can beat Sharad Brown, then the Senate's 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna flip. That is one of the top targets. And 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: so Trump is there at a rally for I believe 79 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Bernie Moreno, who he has endorsed, and he says that 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: the American auto industry fuck. He said very similar to 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: what we said on this show, which is, if you 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: look at electric electric vehicles, China is soon going to 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: start to manufacture them in Mexico to try to get 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: them into the United States market and avoid tariffs as 85 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: a result of those rules. And Trump said accurately that 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: if that happens, that would be a blood bath for 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the American auto industry. Let's let everyone hear, yes, in context, 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: exactly what President Trump said. 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: This is cut one China. 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: If you're listening, Presidency, and you and I are friends, 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: but he understands the ideal those big monster car manufacturing 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: plants that you're building in Mexico right now, and you 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: think you're gonna get that, you're going to not hire 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: Americans and you're going to sell the cars. Now, we're 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: going to put a one hundred percent tariff on every 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: single car that comes across the line, and you're not 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: going to be able to sell those because if I 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: get elected, Now, if I don't get elected, it's going 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: to be a bloodbath for the whole that's going to 100 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: be the least of it. It's going to be a 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 4: bloodbath for the country that'll be the least of it. 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 4: But they're not going to sell those cars. 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: So he's clearly to anyone with ears, and if they 104 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: missed it, they could always go back and listen again 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: because it was all recorded talking about what you were saying, 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: which was the auto industry electric electric cars. This is 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: a question of commerce and a question of what it 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: would mean economically for the United States. It was a 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: shock wave of bull crap all weekend. Yeah, on this one, 110 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: all the lib media freaking out saying that Trump called 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: for a blood bath or Trump said a blood bath 112 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: will happen if he does not get elected. Now, I 113 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: have to say, this was one of you talked about 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: strategy and your fine book, American Playbook available wherever books 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: are found. That's right, But but you talked about about 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: the strategies that will deploy. One thing that I think 117 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: surprised a lot of people the first four years of Trump, 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: or we couldn't see coming and now we know it's there. 119 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: They will pretend the anti Trumpers to not understand the 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: plain meaning of language. They will pretend that they don't 121 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: understand sarcasm or hyperbole or a joke. Right, This was 122 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: something that over and over again Trump would say something. 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: I'd say, Oh my gosh, I said, what the no 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: he was he was obviously he was kidding, like to 125 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: any normal person, he's kidding. But they would rather be 126 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: obtuse and outraged than deal with what President Trump actually says. 127 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: It's more fun for them, more gratifying for them to 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: pretend to be uttered morons and they're going to do 129 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: this the whole way through, because they did it the 130 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: whole way through last time. 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't even think the word bloodbath in 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: this context is even remotely controversial. 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: And so I had the team pull. 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Here is everyone on the left basically in the country 135 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: pretending that they can't believe that Trump said that there 136 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: would be a blood bath, using the word bloodbath in 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: their own newscasts and their own content. 138 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 139 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: As politico dot com reports tonight on the quote bloodbath 140 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: at the RNC, not only is it going to be 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: a blood bath, but after they leave New Hampshire, it's 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: a bloodbath. 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: On her home turf. That's really tough. Has left a 144 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: lot of corpses in his wake. I mean, we haven't 145 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: counted the body as a Biden blood bath. The Republican 146 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Party will be destroyed. 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 6: He's going to be a. 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Blood bath also well, Biden blood bath. 149 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: This November election blood bath. It could be a bloodpath 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: for the blood bath. 151 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: Possibly bloodbath went through with the Attorney General blood bath 152 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 5: ninety nine days. 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: The blood bath is going to look like. 154 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: Resided over a bloodbath in the diplomatic corps. 155 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Ticket sales turn into a blood bath ticket sales for 156 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: singer Taylor Swift's latest tour. It's safe to say the 157 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: fans had a blood bath for the company. Off of 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: the casket, Claire, Can I just glutch my pearls for 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 3: a second? 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Were they calling for a blood path and a Tailor 161 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Swift concert? 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: There? 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: What is wrong with these psychotic libs? But you know 164 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: They're going to say the ones who even feel like 166 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: they have some integrity to protect or some some claim 167 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: to being normal human beings in their in their minds, 168 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna say, Clay, oh no, it's different when Trump 169 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: uses the word yes, this is the thing. 170 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly what Scarborough said. Have you heard this yet? 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Here's Joe Scarborough of course? Oh yeah. 172 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: The Scarborough and Bechilos, I would argue, are maybe the 173 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: two guys who are actually too smart to be like 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Joey Reid's actually very smart, right, and 175 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things like I think Joy Reid, 176 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: not Rachel Maddow is very smart. I think Scarborough is 177 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: not an idiot. I think Bechelos is not an idiot, 178 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: which makes to me their arguments here tougher to defend. 179 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Listen to cut three here from Joe Scarborough. 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: Obviously he's talking about a bloodbath for America. 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: It's laid out in the terms of it. 182 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: And these idiots on Twitter, these idiots on cable News, 183 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: these idiots on. 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: Sunday Chews Presidence. You know, he was. 185 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: Talking away about the auto industry and. 186 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: This is one what's just bull. 187 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: Let me say that at six point fifteen am just bull. 188 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing. 189 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: We're not stupid, Americans aren't stupid. He was talking about 190 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: a bloodbath. Sometimes a blood bath means a bloodbath. And 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 5: when you finish this by saying and that's just going 192 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: to be the least of it. Seriously, these people may 193 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: be stupid, we're. 194 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Not lay black, I know, living on another planet. 195 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: But you have to also look at this and understand 196 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: that that is what the audience that they have expects 197 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: them to say. And this is unfortunately, the Democrat audience 198 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: in general has been conditioned to the most extreme hysteria 199 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: when it comes to anything Trump related, such that you 200 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: will be accused of underplaying things right, you will be 201 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: accused of not taking the threat seriously unless you go 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: the sky is falling dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. 203 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: And I think that one of the problems we have 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: when we try to look at the way they analyze 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: Trump is that they will say that in context, anything 206 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: Trump says has to be taken as wicked and vicious 207 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: and violent anytime they can make that case Trump not 208 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: only if there's the benefit of the doubt. You know, 209 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: I guess he gets the doubt of the benefit. He 210 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: gets the other thing. It's always the worst possible thing imaginable. 211 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: And this is very tiresome, but this is the Trump 212 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: Remember this. During Trump's first term, there was a Trump 213 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: translation role in the media. They're always trying what he 214 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: really means is it's like when they say there's a 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: dog whistle. You know what a dog whistle is when 216 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: a lib here's something that's not racist, and they just 217 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: want to call you a racist. Oh, there's a dog 218 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: whistle going on here, same thing, same thing. 219 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: And I was trying to think about this. Can you 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: point I mean, we've been on the air together now 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: for three years. Can you point to anything that we've 223 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: said that a left winger has said that has been 224 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: as dishonest as what Joe Scarborough said, cursing to his 225 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: audience about how they're idiots. And look if Joe Scarborough 226 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: had come on and said, I think that Joe Biden 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: is mentally the deteriorating, but he's still a better choice 228 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: than Donald Trump. 229 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: That's it. I don't buy that argument. 230 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: That's a legitimate argument that a person on the left 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: could make. Trump is calling for a literal blood bath. 232 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the only violence in terms of death that 233 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: occurred on January sixth was Ashley Babbitt got shot by 234 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: a police officer. 235 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: Otherwise, no one died. 236 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: In the next through a window, by the way, correct, 237 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean, if the standard is going to be well, 238 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: we this is you know, I don't like this, but 239 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: think about this like as we go to break and 240 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: by the way, eight hundred and two two two eight 241 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: a two if you guys can think, I can't even 242 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: think of a right wing equivalent of the way that 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: the left all lined up and defended this blood bath. 244 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: Take as justified for a reason that you can't support Trump. 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: They will do that. 246 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: They will do this over and over again. And this 247 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: is a central part of the plan to change the 248 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: play meeting of words. And just one more thing, Clay, 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: I know we gotta we gotta take some calls and 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: get to a break here. But this is also where 251 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: it becomes it's not just Trump that they hate, it 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: is you, the Trump voter. Yes, they despise you because 253 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: in their minds, the Trump dog whistle about the blood 254 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 3: bath will be acted upon by the vicious and violent 255 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: Maga brigades out there. So it's always important to remember 256 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 3: that they don't just despise Trump this way. They actually 257 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: whether it's Scarborough and the others in the media, they 258 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: think his followers are such, you know, evil, toothless, maga 259 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: hat hillbillies, whatever, they would all create a blood. 260 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: Bath if he doesn't win. That's what they're saying. 261 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: He said that everybody out there saying this is not 262 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: a story as an idiot. 263 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: He means you, he means me, he means all of you. 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: We're idiots for actually listening to what Trump said in context. 265 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: That's what they think of you. Look, we're rolling in 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: March madness. Buck is going to fill out a bracket. 267 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: I think we can guarantee it. Games start tomorrow with 268 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: the first four place in Dayton, Ohio. I cannot wait 269 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: for all of these games to get underway. 270 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: This is the best time of year. 271 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I think the NCAA tournament peaks on the opening weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 272 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: Buck and I are going to be live with you 273 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday. I can't guarantee you that I'm 274 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna hear everything that everyone says on the show on 275 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, because there's gonna be games going on, 276 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have my television setup while we're doing 277 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: the show on Thursday and Friday, monitoring the games that 278 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: are going on Thursday and Friday so that I'm not 279 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: missing anything that's going on in those games. That's how 280 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: much I love the Thursday and Friday. A lot of 281 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: you out there, you maybe maybe you're feeling a little 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: tickle on the throat. 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Use with twenty four from Clay and Fuck, 313 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: a weekly podcast you can find on the free iHeartRadio 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. Bloodbath Gates is 315 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: upon us. You just say it out loud. 316 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: You think, oh my gosh, good heavens Trump said the 317 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: word bloodbath. 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: You know what else happens? 319 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes, Clay Trump will talk about waging a campaign against 320 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: his opponents. Perhaps they'll even be targeting some districts for votes. 321 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: I mean, in oh my gosh, the the refusal to 322 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: understand the plain meeting of language is unfortunately an old tool, 323 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: a thing that the Democrats use against Trump. I've never 324 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: seen them try this with another politician quite the same way. 325 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: They will do more of this, but we will get 326 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: further into the hysteria because you just told me I 327 00:16:59,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: didn't know this. 328 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: You said that. 329 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: Some people who aren't quick to run to Trump's defense. 330 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: For example, you say, yes, steven A is even saying, guys, 331 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: this is bogus. 332 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Come on right, Yes, steven A Smith, who I've done 333 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: a couple of shows with and we've been interacting a 334 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: decent amount. He's the most prominent person I think it's 335 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: fair to say at ESPN shared yet last night on 336 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Twitter and said, this is totally unfair to Trump the 337 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: context in which the bloodbath commentary is occurring. 338 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: To me, that is. 339 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: Evidence that there are a lot of people in twenty 340 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: twenty four who have woken up to the dishonesty in 341 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: the media that may not have noticed it in twenty 342 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: sixteen or noticed it in twenty twenty. In fact, I 343 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: bet there are some of you out there listening to 344 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: us right now, maybe even tens of thousands of you 345 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: that wouldn't have listened five or six years ago, that 346 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: have become aware of the dishonesty. 347 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: It's really hard to believe the people on anything who 348 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: told you that Joe Biden was up for being president. 349 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: That's a big change too. I saw Biden over the weekend. 350 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this video buck with 351 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: an umbrella like being led around by handlers, and it 352 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: was as if he didn't know how doors worked or 353 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: umbrellas worked. His energy was awful. This is a man 354 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: that they now have to put in special shoes to 355 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: try to keep him from falling. 356 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: He's president of the United States. I wish we could 357 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: just send him. 358 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Chalk, that is what he needs to make sure that 359 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: maybe he could walk up the stairs, that maybe he 360 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: could open a door, that he could stand in the 361 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: rain under an umbrella and not look like he has 362 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: no idea what's going on in the world at all. 363 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: He could take advantage of Chalk's mal Vitality Stack, which 364 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: has been shown to increase testosterone levels in men by 365 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: twenty percent in just three months time. Get hooked up 366 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: right now Megan March's discount cchoq dot com. 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But there are 372 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: reports out there that Donald Trump's lawyers on Monday I'm 373 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: reading from the New York Sorry, from the Wall Street Journal. 374 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's lawyers on Monday said the former president has 375 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: been unable to obtain a bond to guarantee payment of 376 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: a four hundred and fifty four million dollars civil for 377 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: aw judgment against him, despite trying to negotiate with some 378 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: of the largest shirters in the world and a filing 379 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: to the New York Appeals Court, Trump said the judgment 380 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: was so large shirters wouldn't accept real estate as collateral, 381 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: would require cash to guarantee the bond. A private company 382 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: like the Trump organization would need a billion dollars in 383 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: cash to obtain the bond and to continue to operate, 384 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: an amount the company doesn't have. 385 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: So that is out there. We told you this was 386 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: likely to be the case because. 387 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Even super rich people do not have four hundred and 388 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in cash just laying around. And because 389 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: of the way that New York has come after lending companies, 390 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: that is into these that are involved in lending money 391 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: to Trump. 392 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: It's unlikely. I wouldn't do it. 393 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: If I ran JP Morgan or if I'm ran Goldman Sachs. 394 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: There's no way I would get involved in this mess. 395 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't want my books getting investigated over what loans 396 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: we may or may not be making. So a part 397 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: of me wonders whether there's been reports that Trump has 398 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: met with Elon Musk. There have been reports that Trump 399 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: has met with Larry Ellison, who is the CEO of 400 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Oracle Big, big backer of Tim Scott. I wonder on 401 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: some level whether one of those guys that is a 402 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: super wealthy individual might be willing to loan money to 403 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Trump as opposed to one of these usual surety companies. 404 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: But I think this is a story that you have 405 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: to pay attention to because there is the possibility that 406 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: Leticia James could end up seizing some part of the 407 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Trump real estate portfolio. And let me just say this, 408 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: I have a pinprick of the real estate assets that 409 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: Trump has in the commercial real estate marketplace. 410 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: But given where interest rates are, and. 411 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Given how depressed overall numbers of workers that are showing 412 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: up inside of commercial real estate buildings are now, is 413 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: among the most difficult times imaginable to be trying to 414 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: sell a major asset. We've talked about on this program 415 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: some of for instance, the major buildings in San Francisco, 416 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: and how their prices overall have collapsed. So even if 417 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Trump were going to sell a building, and he may 418 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: not want to sell a building under the circumstances, it 419 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of a fire sale, and probably 420 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: a poor business choice to do so. 421 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: One of the ways that they have always tried to 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: put pressure on Trump is through effectively an unspoken and 423 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: omnipresent boycott right in the sense that, let me explain 424 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. If you were to buy Trump's building, 425 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: even if you're just buying the buildings, is at a 426 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: great price so that he could pay this final let's say, 427 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: and who knows I mean that transaction. There's no way 428 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff is going to happen in the 429 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: speed that he would need. But just theoretically, if you 430 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: were the buyer, the pressure that you would get what 431 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: you're a big real estate private equity fund, let's say, 432 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: or even you were just you were on a giant 433 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: family office of real estate, you know that you own, 434 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: you would be considered a Trump savior, even though you're 435 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: just doing it for a good deal. They've done this 436 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: very effectively in the legal profession, and not a lot 437 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: of people talk about this. I think very few people 438 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: even really know or pay attention to this. If you're 439 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: at a top law firm, you were not allowed to 440 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: work on any Trump relater issues that has happened. That 441 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that there aren't some good lawyers who will 442 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: find their way to working for Trump, but especially toward 443 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: the end of Trump's term, it was an unspoken thing 444 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: that if you were at one of those big fancy 445 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: you know, so and so, so and so and so 446 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: and so law firms, you. 447 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: Were not going. 448 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: It would be destructive to your career, even if you 449 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: did it on your own time, and they wouldn't even 450 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: approve it. But to try to work for Donald Trump. 451 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: So that's another way that they make this harder. And 452 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: you brought up going to a billionaire of some kind 453 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: who would effectively white Night in this situation, step in 454 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: and say okay, I'll loan even just a loan of 455 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, you would have lunatics, you know, saying 456 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: the worst things online, threatening your family. I mean, this 457 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: is part and you know, I just retweeted this from 458 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Andy McCarthy, who I thought points out something very good 459 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: that ties into the bloodbath comment Clay. Whether it's about 460 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: giving money to Trump so that he can at least 461 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: just go through. All he's trying to do is get 462 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: money for a bond for appeal, right, But if it's 463 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: giving money to Trump for that, or it's about the 464 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: bloodbath comment. The people that are making the most noise 465 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: about this, and this is from the Andy tweet, they 466 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: all know that their team would riot and actually create 467 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: the blood in the streets if Donald Trump won. And 468 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: we know that because in the twenty twenty election, Democrat 469 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: enclaims were preparing for it. 470 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: Right, So it's oh so disingenuous totally. 471 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: And this is where I'll be honest with you. I 472 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: don't have a billion dollars nowhere near it, right. If 473 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: I were a multi billionaire, Let's say I was Larry Ellison, 474 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: Let's say I was Elon Musk, I would put up 475 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: the bond for Trump here. And I understand it's easier 476 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to say it's easy to spend other people's money, But 477 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: if I had ten billion dollars or I had twenty 478 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: billion dollars, I would act as a surety. I would 479 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: have my team look at the Trump real est date assets. 480 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I think you're going to get the money back that 481 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: so this is not some sort of gift. I think 482 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: you would get the money back. Obviously you would use 483 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: a real estate as some sort of collateral. But I 484 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: think this is just wrong. And in the same way 485 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: that I believe Elon Musk bought Twitter because and this 486 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: is important and I think a lot of people have 487 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: missed this. Elon Musk is so rich that he's thinking 488 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of years into the future about where humanity is going. 489 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: That's what Tesla is about, That's what SpaceX is about. 490 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: And I think he sees a threat to the First. 491 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: Amendment in the United States as a direct attack upon 492 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: the future of humanity, the same way that he wants 493 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: to make Mars happen and our species multiplanetary. I think 494 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: he recognizes that without a free exchange of ideas, there 495 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: can be no growth as human society. 496 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: And if you don't see that connected. 497 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: To yeah, if you don't have free speech on the Internet, 498 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: do you really have free speech? Think about the power 499 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: and the instantaneous and global connectivity of thoughts and ideas 500 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: in the World Wide Web versus Yeah, Okay, you could 501 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: kick an old school and have your own little Gutenberg 502 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: printing press and hand out pamphlets on the street corn. 503 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I assure you. 504 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: That is going to get drowned out by whatever the 505 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: dominant thought, whatever the dominant paradigm is online, which is 506 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: also why we should do a little bit of this. 507 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: I watched so you don't have to the Don lemon 508 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: Elon Musk interview. Yeah, it was honestly like watching a 509 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: genius be just harassed by a toddler on the witness 510 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: stand or something. I mean, it was absurd the way 511 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: that Lemon conducted the interview. You looked like a total jackass. 512 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: The only thing that I would criticize Elon Musk for is, Elon, 513 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: before you're going to hire somebody as the left of 514 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: center voice on X, come talk to some of your 515 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: saying friends. You know what I mean, there are better 516 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: options to be left. You know, I got an idea, 517 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: how about pushing for someone like a Glenn Greenwald, even 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: somebody who's left of center ideologically but still devoted to 519 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: free speech principles. Don Lemon comes from the perspective of 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: somebody who wants to redefine free speech so that free 521 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: speech is no longer free. 522 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: That's all. 523 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: That's all that his whole mission is. That's what the 524 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: entire Democrat left is. 525 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: Trying to do. 526 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 7: Now. 527 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is why I think you could make 528 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: an argument if you truly believe in free speech principles, 529 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: whether you're Larry L. Ellison or your Elon Musk, that 530 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: if you do your research on this, and I think 531 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that Trump is being targeted based on 532 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: his political opinions, not because he actually committed some sort 533 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: of egregious wrong. Remember, there's not a single dollar that 534 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: was lost by the banks that loan money to Donald 535 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Trump in New York City. They're just trying to humiliate 536 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: and bankrupt them. And this is why we've said before. 537 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: Trump is the only president in any of our lives 538 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: who has ended up less wealthy after being president of 539 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: the United States. He would have way more money if 540 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: he had never entered into politics, at least so far. 541 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: I would put that money up for him if I 542 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: had billions of dollars to allow him. 543 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: To be able to focus on other things. 544 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: I want you all to hear a little bit of 545 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: that exchange between Elon and Don Lemon. 546 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: You will know you won't be surprised. 547 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 3: Actually it went exactly like any of you who know 548 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: Elon's from his content and who he is, and any 549 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: of you who've ever seen Don Lemon show, it went 550 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: exactly as you would think that it was an utter 551 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: train wreck. 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Speak out with 575 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. 576 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: A new episode of Every Sunday. 577 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 578 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 579 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: We're going to dive into the Elon interview with Don Lemon, 580 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: not to give more attention to the soon to be 581 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: very failed Don Lemon Show. And I will always remember 582 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: when Trump just decided to tweet out back when he 583 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: was on Twitter that Don Lemon was the single dumbest 584 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: man on TV. This interview Trump could use certainly as 585 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 3: a piece of evidence to that end if he were 586 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: to feel like he had to make this case in 587 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: front of a court of law. It was a shockingly 588 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: inept and really moronic attempt by Elon Musk. I'm sorry 589 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: by Don Lemony undermine Elon Musk. And we'll get into 590 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: some of that. And then also, Clay, one of you 591 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: saw this, I'll share it with you so we can 592 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: break down the data together. Some polling out that says 593 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: if Trump is convicted in New York City on the 594 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: thirty four counts of paperwork violation or whatever that it 595 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: would sway some voters. I find that very very hard 596 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: to believe. But we can address some of that here 597 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: in just a moment. First up, Andy in North Carolina? 598 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: What's going on? 599 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: Andy? 600 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how you doing good? I was listening to 601 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 6: you talking about you know, maybe he should borrow money 602 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 6: from Elon Musk or one of these other guys. Why 603 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: don't we And I know we can't just gofund me 604 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: because they're liberal and they would shut it off. But 605 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 6: why don't we make a page And why don't the 606 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 6: American people mail Trump out five or ten dollars apiece? 607 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: All he's done for us, we should do something for him. 608 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: So, in general, I think raising four hundred and fifty 609 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: million dollars is insanely difficult to do. So I understand 610 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: the argument behind it. 611 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, for instance, how much. 612 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: Did the Trump campaign raise in UH in twenty twenty 613 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: from small donors. I don't know that they would have 614 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: raised four hundred and fifty million dollars total. 615 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: I think. 616 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: Million dollars for Stop the Steal, for example, in its entirety, 617 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million was the total number. 618 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: So I appreciate the idea behind it. 619 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: I think this is one where uh, small donors should 620 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: donate to the campaign. 621 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: I think that's certainly a smart move. 622 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: I think that this is so illegitimate, and I appreciate 623 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: the intent of the idea. But this is where I 624 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: think a major billionaire should step step forward in and 625 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: put forth to surety. You know, if you are Larry Ellison, 626 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just tossing Larry Ellison's name out there because 627 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: he's a multi billionaire oracle founder owner, I'm not sure what. 628 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: You just went mustache with goatee. You'd have some Larry 629 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: Ellison vibes. You know, you could pull off Larry Ellison 630 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: in Hollywood. I could, I could pull off a little 631 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: Larry Ellison. Look, I don't underst stand why you wouldn't 632 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: be interested potentially in doing this. You know, Larry Elson's 633 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: a big Tim Scott guy. Maybe maybe Trump decided I 634 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: think Trump's gonna pick Tim Scott. That's who I've said 635 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: is going to be the VP pick. But maybe that's 636 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: how Larry Ellison sees a donation that he could make 637 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: making sense there is, by the way, a gofund me 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: is what they're selling how much money's been raised. 639 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: Buck, that's it. 640 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now. Hold on a million. 641 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: And a half dollar so only like four hundred and 642 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars to go or whatever the math is. 643 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just it's. 644 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: Just by the way the the caller is not wrong 645 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: in the sentiment at all. To be clear, that is 646 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: a viable plan theoretically. But getting everybody in the country 647 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: you have to get basically everyone in the country who 648 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: supports Trump to donate would be quite a thing to do. 649 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: And I don't know if people trust the donation site. Also, 650 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: what happens if what happens if go fund me. I'm 651 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: not trying to have to go fund me says oh no, 652 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: this we're holding this an s grow because of the insurrection, YadA, YadA, YadA. 653 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: You know, we'll see where this is in six months 654 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: after raising a few hundred million dollars. Does anyone think 655 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 3: they're beyond that? I don't think they're beyond that. No, 656 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't think they're beyond that at all. 657 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: And again this is also somewhat different where I think 658 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: Trump has a decent chance to win this on appeal. 659 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: But again, the design here is simply to punish him 660 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: for his political decisions. This would have never occurred if 661 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: he had not run for president. Tim and Janesville, Wisconsin. 662 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 7: Hey, good afternoon, boys. You know I was a great 663 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 7: Rush fan, and when he died, he left two really 664 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 7: big shoes to fill. And you guys are fitting right in. 665 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, that very kind of you to say. 666 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 7: My question is the old saying is follow the money. 667 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 7: Where is this money going to? Who benefits from it? 668 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: The big fines. 669 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: State of New York. 670 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 1: This is a fine that would go into the State 671 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: of New York's coffers. So you know, if you didn't 672 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: have a blue state and a blue city. This is 673 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: why they're doing it in New York, right, because, for instance, 674 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: if this money was and let's just say this was 675 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: in Georgia, the money, they wouldn't do it, right, The 676 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: red state government would not take four hundred and fifty 677 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: million dollars from Trump. They are doing it because the 678 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: money goes into New York City coffers as a fine. Remember, 679 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: zero money lost. There is no actual victim here at all. 680 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: The bank made money on this loan. The bank has 681 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: said that they were not in any way defrauded. 682 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: This is the real estate financial equivalent of the Kavanaugh maneuver. 683 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: And so far as there's no crime, there's no credibility 684 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 3: for the alleged crime. The whole thing is insane. And 685 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 3: yet they're still using the system to punish somebody because 686 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: they don't like what that person stands for. 687 00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: That's it. 688 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: Remember what they are saying, sorry, as the justification for 689 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: how they're doing this is they are saying, the fine 690 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: is to represent the interest rate that Trump would have 691 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: had to pay if he had not exaggerated the values 692 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: of his real estate holdings at the time of the 693 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: at the time of the loan. That is what they 694 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: are that that is the argument, the legal underpinning of 695 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: their entire interaction. 696 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in, caller, appreciate you. I would 697 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: just say, Clay, this would almost be like if you 698 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: said my house is worth a million dollars, you put 699 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 3: it out there, and then someone paid a million dollars 700 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: for it, and then New York came along and said, actually, 701 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: your house is only worth half a million, so we're 702 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 3: gonna find you a half a million dollars. The house 703 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 3: is worth whatever someone wants to pay for it. That's 704 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: what it's worth. I think it's even crazier Buck. 705 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: It's like you took out a mortgage on a home, 706 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: you paid off the entire mortgage, and then they said, actually, 707 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: your house value was wrong on that mortgage.