1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,639 Speaker 1: I want to say, well, you know me and you've 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: been cool for a long time. I like the show. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: I love Gil's arena. Joe Siah's doing an amazing job. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Gil is Gil. My favorite two guys in there are 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: you and Ken. You know how much love and respect 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: I've have you ever since I've met you in high school. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Love Kenyon, love him Rashwan also love him. I like 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: your show The Pivot and Stack five and Matt Barnche. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really a podcast guy, but I enjoy you 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: guys because I know the G fourteen classification you guys have, 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes when you speak that language, I understand a 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand, like me and you had 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the conversation upstairs. I only big guys, That's all I know. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: I can't talk about what it is to be a 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Hercuy Jernky Guard you can, Gil Can. I can't talk 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: what it is to be a nasty power for Kendall can. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: So I just want to say I respect you guys 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing, and I appreciate you coming into day. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Thank you man, thank you for that. We started the 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: podcast about three years ago, uh in Gill's basement, and 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: it's just been growing. You know, we all uh, we're all. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: We're all NBA players. I think that's the beauty of it. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: We all have our stories about you know, what we 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: went through in the league. If you watch it, if 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: anybody watches us, we start at eleven thirty, So that's 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: when thirty in the morning. Yeah, eleven thirty. Yeah, oh no, yeah, 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: so that's when practice, you know, but that's when practice. Yeah, 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: you're right right, and we're done that too. So Gil 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: likes to keep it, you know, still in that NBA 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: type type format. 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: So you guys do it every day or once a week. 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do it Monday through thursdays live. Oh damn, yeah, yeah, 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Monday through Thursday's live every every Yeah, Monday Thursday. 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: That's a lot of work. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: See. This is what I think is so funny about Shaq. 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: Shack always looks around and goes, man, I like the 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: way they do things, And I go, you know how 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 4: much they work, right, Shack? 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: And he's like, nah, man, I got I got places 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: to go. 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I got doing all every day. But no, I respect 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: you guys. Keep doing you're doing. Don't ever change big 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: for the culture. Yes, big to have a real voice, 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and I have a corporate voice all the time. So 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: how did you How did you end up co hosting 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: on Gil's arena? 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: How'd I ended up? 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: Well? 49 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: I did a couple of shows for Josiah. First he 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: was on another podcast, and then Gil. He would invite 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: me over and we would just talk about the game sometimes. 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: And then my girl occasion, she was you know, she 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: thought it would be great for me to do it. 54 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: At first, I wasn't really into it, like, you know, 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: I didn't want to really sit there and talk about 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: the game and talk about the players and things like that. 57 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: But she thought it would be great open therapy for me. 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: And you know, Gil being Gil, he set it up 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: the right way and everything else was everything Shack. 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: I know you were motivated early on by if people 61 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: were ranked ahead of you or if they were drafted 62 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: near you. 63 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 64 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: From what I'm seeing online, Brandon's going through it right 65 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: now with his draft class. I feel like the two 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: thousand and nine draft classes kicking each other's. 67 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: Out right now, and I just want to make sure 68 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: we're okay. 69 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me, yeah, tell me who's involved with that, 70 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: because I see some things, but I want I want 71 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: to hear all the names. I want to hit the rules. 72 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on and I want 73 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: to know how I could how I can get them? 74 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so uh so yeah, I had ended up 75 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: calling out some of my draft draft mates. Uh uh 76 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: Jeff t uh Ty Lawson hold. 77 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: On well, one by one, Jeff Tig versus you one 78 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, I'm with you Denver, Denver, right, yes, 79 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Ty was nice when I'm going with you? Who else? 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: And then my last one I called out was uh 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: it was lou Will I just I just wo but 82 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm going off. 83 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm going off. 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: But see I'm going off off. 85 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 3: Didn't this start because you called out Drew Holiday? Yeah? 86 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: So all right, So so you know, me and Drew Holiday, 87 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: we've been battling since we were eleven years old coming up, 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: So me and Drew, our relationship go back to my 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: son's age. But I just threw the bait out there 90 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: with Drew and then and then I threw the bait 91 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: out there with everybody else, and then everybody else start 92 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: catching on. So now now now that we got this 93 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: whole one on one thing coming up, you know Underdog 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: Fantasy Gil, We're about to put together this one on 95 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: one event. 96 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: So when is this going down and where. 97 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: I think this might go down in Saint Louis or 98 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: this might go down up in Vegas during the summer league. 99 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: And how can I be in wealth? We just got 100 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: on the phone with Gil and. 101 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: Referee Shirt for Shaq. 102 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: You and lou Will Yeah, no disrespect. You know, I've 103 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: been loving you since your high school. I don't know 104 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: about that one. 105 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. 106 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick you on him out. 107 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: But but one thing I did say. I said all 108 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: these guys had better careers than me. Of course my 109 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: career was cut short because of my achilles, but I'm 110 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: just going off of you know, just rolling out the ball, 111 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: just you know, three dribbles. 112 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: I like my chances because the thing that scares me 113 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: about that game is when both of y'all get hot, 114 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: nobody can stop y'all. You get hot, kenaw would he 115 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: get high? The same thing. That's why I don't know 116 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the other two. I know who they are, respecting them, 117 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: but I've seen you when you get hot, what you 118 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: can do. You'd be thrown up. That van Exel always 119 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: goes up left, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, in and out 120 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: has a step back. You always do. But Will who. 121 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: I've seen this in sports a lot, Like I know, 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: the wide receiver for the Lions, a mon ros Saint 123 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: Brown has it memorized all the wide receivers that were 124 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: drafted in front of him. 125 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: Is this something as. 126 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: An athlete that, like the guys in your draft, you're 127 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: connected for the rest of your lives and like you 128 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: guys think about it, Is that something that happens with athletes? 129 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 130 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and a lot of us. You know, 131 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: we all have proadcasts everybody that I that I had 132 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: called out, So you know, it's definitely it's definitely a 133 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: good look for us because you know, like I said, 134 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: we all have our podcasts. We can all go back 135 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: and forth and talk and talk and make this like 136 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: the WWE type type thing. So and plus I've never retiredly, 137 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: so this is my chance to come back, no, you know, 138 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: come back getting that mode of playing basketball. And you know, 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: I was talking to Gianni's brother, the Nassas, and you know, 140 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: maybe I can go to Greece and play for two 141 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: or three months, take my son and just retire officially. 142 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: You know, what do you when are you gonna call 143 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: out Curry who was also in your draft class? 144 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: Never you know, Steph is still competing for championships. Drew 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: Holliday is still competing for a championship. 146 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: About sethout and stuff. 147 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: No, I was I was talking about the bad. 148 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah, anybody that's currently like playing in shape 149 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: like these are for the guys that's on the couch. 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying, we're just on the couch chilling. You know, 151 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: we probably got one more one or two more years 152 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: left for us. 153 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: Can we get Johnny Flynn involved? 154 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: Where is he? Who's that? 155 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: Bro? 156 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: I love Johnny Flynn so much? 157 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: And he went to Syracuse, he got. 158 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: Drafted, He got drafted. Him and Ruby Ricky Rubio both 159 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 4: got drafted to Minnesota. 160 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: Had us white, Yeah, I'll call. 161 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: It was like, oh no, no, I don't even know 162 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: who that is. I'm sorry, Johnny. What about uh big 163 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Joe Johnson? 164 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: You know yeah, Joe Johnson said he wants to get involved, 165 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: so so so I think we're gonna do brackets. So 166 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna have brackets. So it's gonna be small guards 167 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: on this side, and then we're gonna have like the 168 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: Nick Youngs, the Joe Johnson's, the Michael Beasley's, you know, 169 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: the last Stevenson's on that size. 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: He's my neighbor in Vegas. That's yeah. I was outside 171 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: that I pulled up. I was like, all right, you 172 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: pull it up, but I got so pull up shock. 173 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: Did you ever play with Michael Beasley? 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