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Speaker 1: Maybe I prefer to believe that she was just badass.

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Speaker 1: She may have been possessed, but it wasn't by demons,

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Speaker 1: It was by creativity, and Lisa left I Lopez and

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Speaker 1: her group TLC made great music. That music you heard

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show that wasn't great music.

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Speaker 1: That was a preset loop from my mellotron called Afro

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Speaker 1: that was the number one song in America on June ninth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, and that was the day that Lisa

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Speaker 1: this episode, Afro Cuban Organs, a case of the Crazies,

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Speaker 1: sixty one inches of Badassory, a match in Lisa Lefti Lopez,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Brennan and this is Disgrace Loved Lisa Lefty

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Speaker 1: Lopez came from a long line of artists and musicians.

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Speaker 1: From a young age, her natural talent was evident. She sang, wrote, drew, danced.

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Speaker 1: Her dad played piano, clarinet, and harmonica. Basically he could

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Speaker 1: Just up the road in Atlanta, the South spurgeoning hip

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Speaker 1: As her success increased, so did her drinking, Nikki was

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Speaker 1: bet Lisa's crazy rep had less to do with condoms

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought they knew Lisa Lopez, but most people didn't.

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Speaker 1: They knew Nicki. Nicki was who'd come around after the

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Speaker 1: as she wanted to shoot together. Nicki and Lisa were unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: One was filled with careless electric feel and magnetism and

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Speaker 1: So that's where Nina came in. Nina would come around

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Speaker 1: what happened. Lisa got it together, put all of her

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Speaker 1: the drinking, not entirely, but just enough to keep Nikki

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Speaker 1: to her second act creatively. Lisa had gotten her way,

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