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Speaker 5: As we welcome you into a preview of the Cowboys
Speaker 5: defense versus the upcoming Philadelphia Eagles offense. We've got a
Speaker 5: lot to get into here over the next fourty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Glad you're with us, Talking Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 5: We've got Nick Harris, chom Manchoda, Isaiah stand back, Chrispy
Speaker 5: in the back of Kyle.
Speaker 2: You know, gentlemen, how we do in today?
Speaker 6: Doing good?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 6: Rangers are up three to one. Rangers up three tonight.
Speaker 5: Chance to close it out with big game Night on
Speaker 5: the mound. Nathan Valdi going for the Rangers. It's in Arizona.
Speaker 9: I know. Just wait till you come home.
Speaker 10: Uh, don't you want to go eleven and zer on
Speaker 10: the road.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I about that.
Speaker 9: Care about the ring, buddy.
Speaker 2: Exactly get it done, exactly get the Ringea, you have to.
Speaker 11: Get on a flight to go celebrate, like you rather
Speaker 11: just drive to the crib and go celebrate. Yeah, or
Speaker 11: turn up in the locker room and then drive home.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 10: Again, if you should drive home and you're turning up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, any good idea? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They just want a world series. Those guys can afford
Speaker 2: an uber. Oh, make it work. It'll it'll happen.
Speaker 5: But I didn't know what the sponsor was, so I
Speaker 5: think so I don't even know. I don't know that.
Speaker 5: Actually I do know that one. I think it's an
Speaker 5: NFL thing. But yeah, cowboys quiet at the trade deadline.
Speaker 5: The Rangers' bats not so quiet in Game five or
Speaker 5: Game four.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it a little bit.
Speaker 5: That's that's the number one news and note I would
Speaker 5: assume is the fact that the Cowboys are not doing
Speaker 5: anything or have not done anything and won't do anything.
Speaker 5: In terms of the NFL trade deadline. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of frustration amongst Cowboys fans.
Speaker 9: Are you frustrated, Kyle A little bit? A little?
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm as frustrated as everybody else. But
Speaker 5: I would have liked them to make a move. We've
Speaker 5: talked about this one hundred times.
Speaker 9: We did.
Speaker 5: I would like them to make a move. I would
Speaker 5: have loved them to make it. To speak, it's past tense.
Speaker 5: Now they didn't. I'm not saying that they're just completely done.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, let's pack this thing up, let's go home.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people that are doing that.
Speaker 2: I saw one content creator that did do that. He said,
Speaker 2: he was like, it's.
Speaker 5: Never been more over than it has been that. Now
Speaker 5: that's not the case. There's a lot of games left to.
Speaker 7: People watch anything but the Cowboys. You could possibly think
Speaker 7: that maybe, but if you keep up with the rest
Speaker 7: of the NFL, it's kind of hard to sit there
Speaker 7: and think that anything's over right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, nothing's everything.
Speaker 9: Is wide over.
Speaker 11: You still got a solid team. It's just you would
Speaker 11: just like we talked about yesterday, you would just like
Speaker 11: to see them just push things over the edge, just
Speaker 11: just just load up.
Speaker 9: Why not?
Speaker 2: And that was without other teams getting better too.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we didn't even talk about them. I mean, you
Speaker 11: can't control what other teams do. That's the reality. And
Speaker 11: you know, I was upset because of the lack of
Speaker 11: movement from the Cowboys organization. We don't know what was attempted,
Speaker 11: and we don't know what phone calls were made, what
Speaker 11: phone calls were received. I guess we should probably say
Speaker 11: because we don't make phone calls, but no, no, you know,
Speaker 11: but you know other teams. You can't control the teams.
Speaker 11: So I'm less concerned about the other teams. Now I
Speaker 11: can tip my hat off to the other teams for
Speaker 11: continuing to be aggressive and fitting feeling their voids and
Speaker 11: adding to depth to their rooms and creating more dominance
Speaker 11: in terms of personnel on their on their rosters. Kudos
Speaker 11: to them. We just would have liked to see that
Speaker 11: from Dallas Cowboys. So I know a lot of people.
Speaker 11: I know I posted something yesterday and I never post
Speaker 11: on Twitter's about to say X, I never post, but
Speaker 11: I had to post.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was, I was angry. I was. I was angry.
Speaker 11: It was it was unsettling cause to see other teams
Speaker 11: just loading up and people are like, oh, you know,
Speaker 11: well you couldn't have got that guy because indivision, I'm
Speaker 11: not talking about getting those particular guys. I'm talking about
Speaker 11: making those particular those type of moves, like those guys
Speaker 11: were literally just boom. Let's let's take it over to Edge,
Speaker 11: Seattle boom, Philly boom?
Speaker 9: Who else?
Speaker 11: San Francisco, San Francisco boom, Buffalo Buffalo boom?
Speaker 9: Who else?
Speaker 8: One?
Speaker 9: Name another one? You know? So, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 9: That's my frustration. I am.
Speaker 11: I am by no means saying that Dallas does not
Speaker 11: have what they need to be competitive to go chase
Speaker 11: a ring, not saying that at all. Let me lay
Speaker 11: that out there before anybody has any speculation. These guys
Speaker 11: still have a solid roster, but there is always always
Speaker 11: room to improve your roster.
Speaker 7: Can I ask you something from a player standpoint? Yes,
Speaker 7: what do you think it's like today in the locker
Speaker 7: room because they didn't make a move?
Speaker 10: Do you think that uh? Is it good? Bad and different?
Speaker 9: What do you think it's in? Different?
Speaker 11: It's business as usual. I mean it's one of those
Speaker 11: things where you look at elesh. Yeah, we sure could
Speaker 11: have used that or I wish we would have took
Speaker 11: our shot and oh, well, here we go, let's go
Speaker 11: to practice. You know, it's like this is what we got. Like,
Speaker 11: I'm good with what we have, but it would have
Speaker 11: been nice to have another juggernaut somewhere on this roster.
Speaker 7: Because the one I think of is just like of
Speaker 7: the notable players that moved most of the ones. I'm
Speaker 7: trying to think up top my head aur defensive lineman.
Speaker 7: And I don't see them needing a defensive lineman here, don't.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I shouldn't say it that way. I
Speaker 7: could see them in the room thinking that they don't
Speaker 7: need anybody else in a defensive line. So them seeing,
Speaker 7: oh they didn't make a move, Well, we didn't need
Speaker 7: to make a move.
Speaker 10: We got the guys here.
Speaker 9: No, yeah, I think that's I believe that sentiment.
Speaker 11: But if you're on the team and you add another
Speaker 11: dog to your to your meeting room, nobody's gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying. Now you might be like, dang,
Speaker 11: I am my playing time just got cut a little bit.
Speaker 11: Or I guess what, I got to step my game
Speaker 11: up a little bit more. Otherwise I'm gonna lose some snaps.
Speaker 11: But nobody's ever going to be like, I can't believe
Speaker 11: they added more talent. I can't believe we're more dominant
Speaker 11: than we were yesterday.
Speaker 9: You know, nobody in San Francisco world is.
Speaker 7: I still think there's some guys on the team that
Speaker 7: are not even I can't speak necessarily this team, but
Speaker 7: teams have covered in the past where guys be like,
Speaker 7: I can't believe they that guy I could have done,
Speaker 7: you know, give me more opportunities and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: And as a professional athlete, there's a party I can understand.
Speaker 9: Why why that way?
Speaker 11: Why does Dallas' defensive line when it comes to you
Speaker 11: needing to pass against them?
Speaker 9: Why do they feel so confident.
Speaker 10: When when you're saying the opponent when.
Speaker 11: Opponent has to pass, why do they as a unit,
Speaker 11: the defensive line, Why do they feel so confident.
Speaker 6: Because of no interior pressure?
Speaker 9: Huh?
Speaker 6: Because of no interior pressure?
Speaker 2: Cowboys?
Speaker 11: Why cowboys confidence when you have to pass your way
Speaker 11: back in the game because waves waves right, I look
Speaker 11: next to me, he's a dog. I look next to me,
Speaker 11: he's a dog. When I got to come out, guess
Speaker 11: what dogs are coming in?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like that's why. So that room together feels invincible.
Speaker 11: When it comes to the pass rush, they feel invincible.
Speaker 11: So that's what I'm talking about. When you start adding
Speaker 11: pieces to rooms, you start creating a level of confidence
Speaker 11: that can't be that can't be matched. Right right now,
Speaker 11: when you look at the interior defensive line, what team
Speaker 11: would you say has the best interior defensive line?
Speaker 2: Eagles?
Speaker 9: Eagles, hands down, And.
Speaker 11: They when they step on the field, I guarantee they're like,
Speaker 11: nobody's running against us.
Speaker 9: Like I looked at it, right, I looked at my lep. Yeah, no,
Speaker 9: they're not running against us. Guess what.
Speaker 11: And when I need a breather, I don't feel as
Speaker 11: if I have to keep going right and trying to
Speaker 11: exert myself past my ability to be able to continue
Speaker 11: to perform, because I can step out for a minute
Speaker 11: and know that my that my dogs are coming in
Speaker 11: the game. They're still going to perform too, right, So
Speaker 11: I could when I get tired, I don't feel bad
Speaker 11: taking a breather.
Speaker 9: And letting those guys go eat and then we just
Speaker 9: keep this whole thing going. Right.
Speaker 11: Everybody stays at over seventy five percent exertion, just good, right,
Speaker 11: Everybody positive, positive plays doubtless. I feel that they feel
Speaker 11: that same way when it comes to pass rush, right,
Speaker 11: but I don't think they feel that way in some
Speaker 11: of the other areas. Right when you look at the
Speaker 11: forty nine ers right now, the forty nine ers, they
Speaker 11: they just did with what the Eagles have done, except
Speaker 11: for they did it with pass rushers instead of doing
Speaker 11: it inter your guys, like like the Eagles have been
Speaker 11: focusing on the past few years, they focus on pass rushers.
Speaker 11: So now it doesn't matter if you shut down Bosa now,
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter if you shut down are set Now.
Speaker 11: You gotta worry about freaking Randy Gregory now, and you
Speaker 11: gotta worry about freaking Chase Chase Young. Like those are waves.
Speaker 11: And when you're as an office alignment, offensive lineman don't
Speaker 11: get to do what take a breather. They don't get
Speaker 11: to take a breather. They get no substitutes. Defensive linemen do.
Speaker 11: So defense alignment can stay fresh all the time based
Speaker 11: upon personnel groups and rotations. And they're going against office
Speaker 11: alignment that are continually losing productivity because they're getting or gas.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a case by case basis.
Speaker 5: Because Micah Parsons on one end is going to say,
Speaker 5: man would have loved to have some other dogs in here,
Speaker 5: would have had some other guys in here. But if
Speaker 5: you're let's say, I'm looking down the list Sam Williams.
Speaker 2: Sam Williams is probably like, I can do that.
Speaker 5: I'm let me step up, give me some rocks, give
Speaker 5: me this, give me that same thing. I mean Jonathan
Speaker 5: Hankins right now, he's about as solidified as anybody on
Speaker 5: the interior of that defensive line. But further down the
Speaker 5: list of Nebell Gallimore might be like, give me some run,
Speaker 5: give me some run. Instead it's case by case. Maybe
Speaker 5: it's locker room by locker room. Because I think this
Speaker 5: team is different than any other team in the country,
Speaker 5: and vice versa. Every team in the country is different
Speaker 5: than every other team in the country as well. I
Speaker 5: feel like there was a pretty good indication that this
Speaker 5: team wanted somebody to come in at least one move
Speaker 5: something to shure up a spot of weakness, because it
Speaker 5: may not look like it now, but down the line,
Speaker 5: it's gonna come back, and there's gonna be a moment
Speaker 5: where somebody gets injured, where something happens in a long
Speaker 5: seventeen game NFL season, and somebody's gonna look up and say, man,
Speaker 5: I wish we would have made a deal at the deadline,
Speaker 5: And there were chances to do so position groups. Maybe
Speaker 5: not specific instances with trades, but position groups. The door
Speaker 5: was open to get a deal done.
Speaker 11: I had a conversation with my daughter this morning. She
Speaker 11: has a field trip today. Right we get where they are.
Speaker 11: They're going to the arboretum or something like that, right, fun, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 11: so they're going on a field trip. And I asked her,
Speaker 11: I say, do you have a good enough jacket? And
Speaker 11: she was like, oh, you know, it's not even cold.
Speaker 11: I'm like, okay, so you don't feel cold right now,
Speaker 11: but if should you need a jacket, you're not going
Speaker 11: to be in a position to have a jacket. Right So,
Speaker 11: right now you feel perfectly fine. But if you get cold,
Speaker 11: you're not in a situation because you did not prepare,
Speaker 11: right You did not prepare yourself, she said, be possibly.
Speaker 10: We're not doing this.
Speaker 11: For the partitional to be cold, to get ready.
Speaker 9: So Dallas, right now, they feel good.
Speaker 11: Dallas feels good right now about about certain aspects of
Speaker 11: their rock. However, should something happen, they are not prepared
Speaker 11: to wear the those storms.
Speaker 9: That's the reality.
Speaker 7: I do believe Mike McCarthy if he was here, he
Speaker 7: would argue with you about the Packers team that he
Speaker 7: won the Super Bowl with.
Speaker 10: He brings up all the.
Speaker 9: Time about how like that next man all that.
Speaker 7: Played a factor and other guys stepped up that maybe
Speaker 7: earlier in this season you didn't see a role for.
Speaker 7: And I'm only saying this stuff because I'm with you
Speaker 7: on ninety nine point nine percent of what you're saying.
Speaker 7: But I also don't think it sounds great on a
Speaker 7: podcast if everybody just agrees.
Speaker 10: So I'm just.
Speaker 7: Trying to play double baby get a little bit just
Speaker 7: to give you a little bit different perspective. But I'm
Speaker 7: just just so you know, like, yeah, I agree with
Speaker 7: just about every single thing that you've said the last
Speaker 7: two days about this. If you lose, Cowboys fans have
Speaker 7: every right to feel disappointed right now.
Speaker 9: If you lose Jonathan Hankins, what are you guys feeling?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Not great, that's great, The bubble's right.
Speaker 6: Fortunately you do have a guy like Massie Smith who's
Speaker 6: at least strong in there. But it's gonna be a
Speaker 6: learning curve.
Speaker 9: Like that would be a baptistm Is he ready to
Speaker 9: fit the void?
Speaker 11: By Jonathan Hanka, Now, so that's what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 11: things like that, right, Like, there are position groups in
Speaker 11: this and on this roster where you're good right now,
Speaker 11: and you're you're crossing your fingers and you're praying and
Speaker 11: you're hoping and wishing that nothing happens, right and nobody
Speaker 11: wants anything to happen, but you're not prepared for if
Speaker 11: something does happen.
Speaker 5: Going off of something that John just brought up with
Speaker 5: the depth that was needed from McCarthy's Packers team, right
Speaker 5: and Super Bowl that they won, you they needed people
Speaker 5: to players to step up into new roles that weren't foreseen.
Speaker 5: Is it an encouraging thing or a not so encouraging
Speaker 5: thing to look at this team right now as they
Speaker 5: stand going into week nine saying that there's not really
Speaker 5: a whole lot of those guys that you expected or
Speaker 5: maybe didn't expect to come through that haven't stepped up yet.
Speaker 5: I think the number one guy would probably be Deron Bland, right,
Speaker 5: But even Deron Bland had five picks last year, he
Speaker 5: still showed last year that he was going to be
Speaker 5: a significant starter on this defense. The way he's done
Speaker 5: it this year is of course a surprise. But outside
Speaker 5: of that, name one guy that you didn't expect to
Speaker 5: come into the season and play a massive role and
Speaker 5: has done that, Marcus.
Speaker 10: Marquis Bell will clearly be the one.
Speaker 9: Only thing that was.
Speaker 7: About Because you mentioned Bland, I will say, at the
Speaker 7: cornerback position, if one of those corners were to go
Speaker 7: down and it looked like Jacksonville from last year, and
Speaker 7: you're just bringing in guys off the street, yeah, that's
Speaker 7: that's that's no people going back to this.
Speaker 10: You know a lot of people, right and no.
Speaker 2: The guys yeah yeah, and a.
Speaker 6: Lot of people aging again is he yeah?
Speaker 9: Interesting?
Speaker 5: Somebody on the text line from the four h four
Speaker 5: four said the Cowboys can still pick up both Scarborough,
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: While yeah, I like it.
Speaker 10: Sorry I cut you off about Marquis Bell.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, No, No, I was just saying Marquis Bell was
Speaker 6: another one.
Speaker 5: But that's that's probably the one, right because, like I said,
Speaker 5: deron Bland, you could argue that he already showed it
Speaker 5: last year. But is that an encouraging thing or a
Speaker 5: discouraging thing? The fact that you haven't had those names
Speaker 5: a rise. Yet the fact that I'm mean, we're seven
Speaker 5: games end of the year but still tend to go.
Speaker 6: I think it's not so necessarily guys a rising, and
Speaker 6: there are guys in positions to rise. Like we've talked
Speaker 6: about the running back situation, there's still an opportunity for
Speaker 6: Reco Doubtell to be able to prove to be a
Speaker 6: change of pace back. And sure, I like what Rico
Speaker 6: has done when he's been given opportunities, but I'd like
Speaker 6: to see more of those opportunities, and I'd like to see,
Speaker 6: you know, that kind of that carry split get a
Speaker 6: little bit more even, not not fifty to fifty by
Speaker 6: any means, but I'd like to see like a sixty
Speaker 6: five thirty five there, just because I want to keep
Speaker 6: Pollard fresh, as we've mentioned many times throughout leading up
Speaker 6: to the trade deadline, and potentially wanting to get Letterard
Speaker 6: Fournette and then he goes to the Bills. I'm trying
Speaker 6: to think of other guys. I mean, there's Mazzie Smith
Speaker 6: in the defensive interior. Again, that's just another instance of
Speaker 6: you know, he's gonna have to play up to that
Speaker 6: level and be the guy to be able to step
Speaker 6: into a role like that. Augie Gurito, Texas baseball head
Speaker 6: coach for long time thirty five forty years when a
Speaker 6: ton of college roal series, he always said famously, he's
Speaker 6: like a guy can't be a hero if you don't
Speaker 6: let him. So I want to see those opportunities for
Speaker 6: those young guys.
Speaker 7: Well, So for me, the position I look at as
Speaker 7: offensive line and that's where I have the biggest question marks.
Speaker 7: Just like we did go in the season about the depth,
Speaker 7: I will say that's a position. I didn't expect them
Speaker 7: to upgrade at the trade deadline. It just that's a position. Yeah,
Speaker 7: It's just it's it's not very likely though, that you're
Speaker 7: going to upgrade.
Speaker 9: I didn't. I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 7: On the offensive line to a level of what this
Speaker 7: team needs. And that's one spot where there are a
Speaker 7: lot of opportunities for some young guys to really step up.
Speaker 7: And I don't think up to this point we've seen
Speaker 7: those young players step up to where you feel like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: if one of these starters goes down for the rest
Speaker 7: of the season, one of these young guys are going
Speaker 7: to step in there and you're going to be fine.
Speaker 7: I think that you would probably have some pretty big
Speaker 7: concerns if that happened.
Speaker 11: What position groups outside of defensive line do you feel
Speaker 11: like if you lost a guy, lost a starter, a
Speaker 11: key contributor that you're like, yo, we feel good about
Speaker 11: next man up?
Speaker 10: Safe safety?
Speaker 9: Yeah, who comes in?
Speaker 2: Well, you just have Jane.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying i'd feel great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes you, it makes you thinner, but at
Speaker 5: least you're there, at least you have guys they can
Speaker 5: fill in this position.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying i'd feel great, but just based on
Speaker 6: history and how it went last year when this problem arose, quarterback,
Speaker 6: yeah it would be high on that list. But other
Speaker 6: than that, yeah, you have a point, just because the
Speaker 6: depth is not is not really thick with this team.
Speaker 6: San Francisco is experiencing that problem right now. They're having
Speaker 6: some key injuries in certain places and guys can't step up,
Speaker 6: and it's it's it's bothered them.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it's a conversation. The deadline has
Speaker 5: now come and gone. We're done talking about it until,
Speaker 5: of course, a situation like that arises, and maybe there
Speaker 5: is a lack of depth at a certain position.
Speaker 2: But right now, you can't do anything about it. It's done.
Speaker 9: It's done.
Speaker 2: Let's move on. When we come back here on Talking.
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Speaker 2: Should be fun coming up on Tuesday. All right, Let's
Speaker 2: take a look at this.
Speaker 5: Eagles offense, weapons, weapons everywhere they have that they certainly do.
Speaker 5: Aj Brown one of the best wide receivers, if not
Speaker 5: the best, in twenty twenty three in.
Speaker 2: Football right now. He has to be because he's putting
Speaker 2: up unbelievable no.
Speaker 10: Over Tyreek, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Okay, we can say NFC. We'll say NFC. Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: say NFC.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's the last nine games. What has he done?
Speaker 11: One hundred yards twenty five one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 11: plus yards in his last nine games?
Speaker 9: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Let me look back and forth.
Speaker 11: I'm taking Oh, I mean I love the explosives, Tyreek, No,
Speaker 11: I love this.
Speaker 2: Want to talk about that? No, a better receiver or.
Speaker 9: More explosive receiver. Those are two different conversations.
Speaker 6: Both of those conversations resulting me saying Tyrek co.
Speaker 2: AJ Brown has been doing things. Yes, I mean he is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's the okay, So that right there, what
Speaker 7: we just did right there is the problem with this
Speaker 7: part of the business is that soon as you try
Speaker 7: and sit there and mention somebody else, it all of
Speaker 7: a sudden sounds like you're talking somebody else.
Speaker 10: Now, nothing on this side of the table ever said
Speaker 10: anything negative about A. J.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 7: He's a monster, awesome. Love to have him. Yes, I
Speaker 7: will take Tyreek Hill please.
Speaker 9: He changes the dynamic of the dets he does.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was loved sweet last week. It was like, man,
Speaker 6: I really like Pancakes. Like the first comment was like,
Speaker 6: why do you hate?
Speaker 10: But either way, Yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 2: He's been incredible.
Speaker 5: DeVante Smith's been playing well, Jalen Hurts, Dallas Goddard, DeAndre
Speaker 5: Swift in the backfield. That's a new wrinkle that the
Speaker 5: Cowboys haven't seen just yet. I mean, there are guys
Speaker 5: to give them the football to. And then Isaiah, I
Speaker 5: know the way that you've talked about it in the past,
Speaker 5: this RPO game has given Dallas fits.
Speaker 2: Do you anticipate that again on Sunday?
Speaker 9: I do. Unfortunately I don't.
Speaker 11: The only team that Dallas has faced this year that
Speaker 11: remotely resembles what the Philadelphia Eagles in Arizona Arizona and
Speaker 11: that was just a smidget Yeah, I mean they literally
Speaker 11: just run a fraction of what Philadelphia's offense is. But
Speaker 11: as we talked about it that week, I told you
Speaker 11: what that offense was going to give them problem the
Speaker 11: defense tomorrow. But I mean, like I foresaw that being
Speaker 11: a problem against Arizona because they had a little bit
Speaker 11: of resemblance is what the Eagles do, and the Eagles,
Speaker 11: obviously here are the originators of it, So I foresee
Speaker 11: it still being a problem. I do believe that that
Speaker 11: you can find a way to slow it down. I
Speaker 11: don't know about shutting it down, but you could definitely
Speaker 11: slow it down. But Coach dan Quinn is gonna have
Speaker 11: to clearly communicate and get these guys to truly trust
Speaker 11: their responsibilities because with this type of offense, you want
Speaker 11: to do more like I want to stop that guy
Speaker 11: that's going over there, but it's not my job.
Speaker 9: It's not my job. I gotta stay here. I gotta
Speaker 9: stay here, even though Nick's not going anywhere.
Speaker 11: I gotta stay here, and I gotta look at Nick
Speaker 11: and I gotta make sure he doesn't do anything.
Speaker 9: But my eyes are looking over there like crap, he
Speaker 9: has the ball, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like I'm the more dangerous.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I figure that much.
Speaker 11: But that's the challenge with this office playing against this offense,
Speaker 11: because you get caught trying to figure out what should
Speaker 11: I be doing? And if everybody just locks in on
Speaker 11: the responsibilities, that Coach dan Quinn and the rest of
Speaker 11: the defensive staff is gonna put on paper and say, hey,
Speaker 11: I just need you to worry about Kyle. Just just
Speaker 11: locking on Kyle, even if he doesn't do anything.
Speaker 9: Just just take care of him, right.
Speaker 11: That's the most difficult thing to just do your assignment right,
Speaker 11: just duy was it?
Speaker 9: Do I do your DYJ? Do you do your job?
Speaker 2: It's like, you do your job. It's the hardest thing.
Speaker 9: It's not about thinking. My mind works too fast, but DYJ,
Speaker 9: just do your job.
Speaker 11: But that's the most difficult thing because there's so much
Speaker 11: going on in the moment that you try to you
Speaker 11: know what, I'm gonna help him out.
Speaker 9: He needs some help.
Speaker 5: That's when you get got What do you think whenever
Speaker 5: you what what challenges this defense the most?
Speaker 2: Whenever you look at the Philadelphia offense.
Speaker 7: Probably no I would say that just there's gonna be
Speaker 7: so much talks about that. So I had to mention
Speaker 7: that real quick because I think it's funny.
Speaker 5: You see the the somebody clipped it and was Nick
Speaker 5: Sirianni staring at the camera in the press conn diference
Speaker 5: to them.
Speaker 2: He was trying to make a statement.
Speaker 5: He was like, if everybody could stop it, or if
Speaker 5: if everybody could do it you, they would like, we're
Speaker 5: the only ones I could do it that way, And
Speaker 5: then it showed them like getting stopped by Washington and
Speaker 5: the push got beat and.
Speaker 10: He bothers me.
Speaker 7: So I would say, and it's so funny too, because
Speaker 7: like you cover the Cowboys and people think that like
Speaker 7: you're a fan of the Cowboys and you hate the
Speaker 7: Eagles or and I'm because I have friends that are
Speaker 7: Eagles straight and stuff like that. I'm just like, there's
Speaker 7: nothing I dislike about the Eagles, Like they they're loaded.
Speaker 7: I love watching them play everything like that Syriani Sideline
Speaker 7: bothers me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, probably be the biggest thing.
Speaker 9: I would agree that the Oregon code.
Speaker 10: I can't get past. I can't get past.
Speaker 9: Extros.
Speaker 10: There's a moment that will always stand out.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 10: There's a moment that.
Speaker 7: Will always stand out to me from the Super Bowl,
Speaker 7: and it's you know, him trying to talk smack to
Speaker 7: the Chiefs and telling them to back up, and literally
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts has got to tell him to like put
Speaker 7: his hand down, and it just was very like, I
Speaker 7: don't know, yeah, it's very like the only people that
Speaker 7: think this is cool are people that are just die
Speaker 7: hard fans of this team. There's no unbiased person watching
Speaker 7: this right now that does not think that this is
Speaker 7: just silliness, you know. So yeah, so sorry you brought
Speaker 7: that up, so it triggered me, no apologize.
Speaker 10: Yeah, ye yeah, no, obviously very good head coach.
Speaker 7: Everything about Jalen hurts is you know, because as Isaiah said,
Speaker 7: you know, and a lot of things that that Isaiah
Speaker 7: mentioned are things that the Cowboys didn't get in as
Speaker 7: detailed as he did after the game.
Speaker 10: But after that Arizona game, there was a.
Speaker 7: Lot of talk of what he said about a lot
Speaker 7: of that like not you know, trying to do more
Speaker 7: doing other than just your job, and things like that,
Speaker 7: and that is being done with the team that if
Speaker 7: you're putting their their players in line with what the
Speaker 7: Eagles have, it's not even close. I mean, for one,
Speaker 7: the Cardinals haven't even won. Sense to the Cardinals, the
Speaker 7: key player in all of that got traded yesterday in Dobbs,
Speaker 7: so it's not like they, you know. And so you
Speaker 7: look at the Eagles roster and there's just part of
Speaker 7: me that takes myself back to Arizona and thinks, so
Speaker 7: you're going to do something similar with considerably better players,
Speaker 7: Like I do think that the Cowboys will be more
Speaker 7: up for this game I do think there was a
Speaker 7: little coming into the Arizona game kind of maybe riding
Speaker 7: a little too eye off the first two games. I
Speaker 7: think they would just show up blow them out. I
Speaker 7: don't necessarily see that in this game. But I also
Speaker 7: think I also have my I wonder how they'll play
Speaker 7: from behind, because I don't think the Cowboys will get
Speaker 7: out to a leader early. That would be the recipe, obviously,
Speaker 7: is for them to get out to a leader early,
Speaker 7: make the make Philly play from behind, But I don't
Speaker 7: think that's going to happen. I think that Dallas is
Speaker 7: going to have to come from behind in this game,
Speaker 7: and this is going to be a tough team to
Speaker 7: do that.
Speaker 9: Again.
Speaker 7: So if you're the Cowboys defense, the biggest thing that
Speaker 7: I think you have going for you is that you're
Speaker 7: outstanding at taking the ball away, and this is a
Speaker 7: quarterback that you can take the ball from. And I
Speaker 7: find it hard to believe that if we sit here
Speaker 7: next week talking about a Cowboys win that it would
Speaker 7: not include multiple takeaways.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think there's a really good opportunity for a
Speaker 6: very specific defensive lineman coming into this matchup. Do we
Speaker 6: do we want to make any guesses. I like a
Speaker 6: guessing game.
Speaker 2: Do you like a guessing game? Very specific?
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm just gonna say, Mike Michael Parsons right off
Speaker 5: the jump, what do you think, d law?
Speaker 2: D law okay?
Speaker 9: Osa?
Speaker 6: It's Osa Okay. We've seen him take that next step
Speaker 6: in pass rush so far this season. Obviously, the run
Speaker 6: games are going to be a big part of what
Speaker 6: they try to do on Sunday afternoon, So being able
Speaker 6: to defend the run probably most important. But when you
Speaker 6: look at the offensive line for Philly and what they've
Speaker 6: had to kind of do at right guard and do
Speaker 6: a little bit of juggling, there's a really good opportunity
Speaker 6: for him to hone in on his pass rush as well. Again,
Speaker 6: I want to see him get home. I think he
Speaker 6: can be. I think he can be the aggressor and
Speaker 6: kind of setting that tone for the defensive line on
Speaker 6: Sunday because when you look at that offensive line, man,
Speaker 6: they are they are stacked. They do a really good
Speaker 6: job both on the outside and the interior. With that
Speaker 6: one little hole at right guard, it's been it's been
Speaker 6: kind of mix stuck for them as the season has
Speaker 6: gone on. So I think Oh said to Gizua, you
Speaker 6: get him in there, he has his best game of
Speaker 6: the season. I think that generates a couple of turnovers.
Speaker 5: One of the texts from the two to three says
Speaker 5: Dak will use his legs and keep the Eagles offense
Speaker 5: on the bench and lead the Cowboys to victory on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 5: I mean, I like the thought process here. But Jalen
Speaker 5: Hurts can use his legs as well. And that's where
Speaker 5: I feel like Osa Digizua has to be stout in
Speaker 5: the middle of that defense. I think it's the way
Speaker 5: that he he helps anchor when he's not really been
Speaker 5: the anchor. He needs to continue to control the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, not be pushed backwards.
Speaker 2: Isaiah has broken it down.
Speaker 5: I think fifty times on film rohim the last four
Speaker 5: years since we've been doing it. Of guys getting washed
Speaker 5: off the line of scrimmage. Osa can't afford to do that.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Hankins can't afford to do that on Massi Smith,
Speaker 5: Nevill Gallimore, Chauncey Golston, whoever is in there, cannot afford
Speaker 5: to get washed off the line of scrimmage. If you
Speaker 5: can control the line of scrimmage, it at least gives
Speaker 5: the guys around you a chance to make a play,
Speaker 5: even with the misdirection and with some of the reads
Speaker 5: that they're gonna have to be.
Speaker 11: I do agree with you in the sense that I
Speaker 11: believe that the greatest playmakers have to come for the
Speaker 11: interior defensive line. I think it has to be Osa
Speaker 11: or Jonathan Hankins. I think either one of those guys.
Speaker 11: I'm on board with it. Because teams that like to
Speaker 11: do a lot of misdirection right, they're typically pulling guards
Speaker 11: and pulling tackles and running tight ends across the formation
Speaker 11: and just criss crossing all the time. The one thing
Speaker 11: that disrupts all that is interior disruption. If you have
Speaker 11: a guy in the middle that blows it up. Guys
Speaker 11: can't pull, guys can't run there, they can't cross the formation,
Speaker 11: they can't do any of those things that they want
Speaker 11: to do. It really causes a lot of issues. Now,
Speaker 11: the defensive ends, obviously are always these offenses are made
Speaker 11: to stop the feet of defensive defensive ends. So d
Speaker 11: law Michael parsons, their eyes are going to be all
Speaker 11: over the place, right, that's the most difficult thing. But
Speaker 11: if you have some dogs in the middle that can
Speaker 11: literally disrupt and blow up the interior offensive line. And
Speaker 11: now all of a sudden, their yard in the backfield
Speaker 11: and tight ends are getting bumped off right, and guards
Speaker 11: can't pull. Now all of us sudden, they can't run
Speaker 11: their offense. You gotta remember they changed offensive coordinators and
Speaker 11: I think he's just now starting.
Speaker 9: What's his name, His.
Speaker 10: Name is Johnson, Yeah, Brian Johnson.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Brian Johnson's a new officer coordinator.
Speaker 10: Right was stacks quarterback coach at Missippi State.
Speaker 11: There you go, Okay, so he's just now starting to
Speaker 11: figure out how to get this offense to move. You
Speaker 11: remember they had some early season struggles in terms of
Speaker 11: offense because they had office coordinator change.
Speaker 9: Okay, office coordinator left, he went to the Colts.
Speaker 11: But now Brian Johnson, he's now the guy, and he's
Speaker 11: just now I think he's just now starting to get
Speaker 11: some tread on the tires in terms of Okay, I'm
Speaker 11: figuring this thing out in terms of play calling, because
Speaker 11: early on everybody was trying to figure out what's different.
Speaker 11: The weapons are the same, you know, this offense is
Speaker 11: the same, but something's just off. Well, he wasn't really
Speaker 11: calibrated with those guys yet, but I think he's starting
Speaker 11: to catch tread. But if you could disrupt what's going
Speaker 11: on in terms of what he knows is tried and true,
Speaker 11: I think you can cause a lot of confusion for him.
Speaker 11: And now all of a sudden, you get him outside
Speaker 11: of what they typically should be doing and he starts
Speaker 11: trying things out, and that's how you can get these
Speaker 11: guys off guard.
Speaker 7: Would you have Micah rushing up the middle more in
Speaker 7: this game or keep the plan pretty similar to what
Speaker 7: you do against other teams with him where he's predominantly
Speaker 7: out on the edge.
Speaker 11: I want him on to itch. Yeah, I want him
Speaker 11: on to itch. I just think that you asked the
Speaker 11: law to be de law, and de Law has been
Speaker 11: very productive. But I think the law has to be
Speaker 11: a mad man.
Speaker 9: I really do.
Speaker 11: I didn't say Micah because I expect Micha to play
Speaker 11: at a certain level. DE law has d Law has
Speaker 11: very effective. It is very effective in what he does,
Speaker 11: but I need him to be a complete just mad
Speaker 11: man on Sunday. And if you have both of those
Speaker 11: guys just blowing things up, I'm talking about restricting the holes,
Speaker 11: condensing everything now all of a sudden, you can get
Speaker 11: them to play a game that they really don't want
Speaker 11: to play.
Speaker 9: And I'm I'm less concerned.
Speaker 11: I'm less concerned about Jalen Hurts trying to get out
Speaker 11: the pocket and force something to happen than it then
Speaker 11: it actually being designed. So I think if you can
Speaker 11: get them outside of themselves again by disrupting what the
Speaker 11: officer coordinator wants to do, by blowing everything up in
Speaker 11: the middle, stopping the runs, shutting down Swift and inside
Speaker 11: like you've been doing the most running backs, and not
Speaker 11: allow these guys to get that running portion of their
Speaker 11: game going. Now all of a sudden, they're going to
Speaker 11: start trying to search. Right now, they're searching, And now
Speaker 11: that's the game that you want to play. If you
Speaker 11: had to shut down one aspect of the game, you
Speaker 11: want to get ready to run, because even though they
Speaker 11: do a.
Speaker 9: Great job, they have great receivers.
Speaker 11: All those days Jalen Hurts get thrown a run, you
Speaker 11: still would much rather have Michael Parsons chasing down Jalen
Speaker 11: Hurts as he tries to throw the ball than allow
Speaker 11: him Swift to freaking run the ball up the middle.
Speaker 9: I think you would yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would much rather have that as an option
Speaker 5: because at least it gives you a shot and it
Speaker 5: could possibly force you into a takeaway too, because if
Speaker 5: you force Jalen Hurts into a bad decision, he's going
Speaker 5: to throw an interception.
Speaker 2: He's had eight picks this year.
Speaker 5: You go one of the top interception throwers in the
Speaker 5: NFL at the moment as we go into Week nine.
Speaker 2: So the opportunity is there.
Speaker 5: You got to stand strong upfront to give the opportunity
Speaker 5: for everything else to grow from there.
Speaker 2: So it should be a fun one defensive matchup.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about it a little bit more on Friday
Speaker 5: as well when we get into our.
Speaker 2: Specific key matchups with Nick Harris.
Speaker 5: But when we come back, we take a look around
Speaker 5: the NFL with John Joda from The Athletic.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: All right, John, what are we looking at around the NFL?
Speaker 7: I mean, I think the biggest story, and might even
Speaker 7: be bigger than it probably is than the moves that
Speaker 7: happened during the trade deadline, are that late last night,
Speaker 7: I'm about to go to bed and all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: I see that the Raiders fired head coach Josh McDaniels
Speaker 7: and general manager Dave Ziegler and had a statement and everything.
Speaker 10: And this comes on the.
Speaker 7: Heels of many people thinking that they would have traded
Speaker 7: DeVante Adams or made some more moves after losing Monday
Speaker 7: night to the Lions, and really.
Speaker 10: Just you don't see a lot of things like.
Speaker 7: This happened, especially right during the trade deadline, the GM
Speaker 7: and the head coach and then to have a statement
Speaker 7: out and everything like that late at night just pretty
Speaker 7: wild from that perspective. So I just know if you
Speaker 7: guys had thoughts on that, because to me, I was stunned.
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess I shouldn't be just because of
Speaker 7: where this Raiders team was going, but just because it
Speaker 7: was right at the trade deadline or.
Speaker 10: Right after it.
Speaker 7: I should say it was a little surprising to see
Speaker 7: that news come in late at night.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised they jumped ship that early. And the timing
Speaker 6: of it is definitely weird. Not only the trade deadline,
Speaker 6: but you're coming off a Monday night game against one
Speaker 6: of the better teams in the NFL and you hung
Speaker 6: with them for a little bit. It's not like you
Speaker 6: got blown out of the water, and you still have
Speaker 6: really good pieces on that team. DeVante Adams, Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 6: Jimmy G's led a team to a super Bowl. They're
Speaker 6: only a half game out of second place in the West.
Speaker 6: That the timing was weird for me. And now they're
Speaker 6: paying an ungodly amount of money to both Josh McDaniels
Speaker 6: and John Gruden to not be their head coaches right now,
Speaker 6: so it's going to make their next search a little
Speaker 6: bit more interesting.
Speaker 11: I wasn't surprised. I really wasn't surprised. You're thinking about
Speaker 11: the Davis family and the things that they've always done.
Speaker 11: When they're done with you, they're done with you, right,
Speaker 11: I mean, that's just fast, right, That's one thing I
Speaker 11: do respect about them, right when they make a decision.
Speaker 11: They make a decision, whether it's right, wrong, and different,
Speaker 11: whether you believe it or not, whether you agree, they
Speaker 11: make a decision, they stand behind it.
Speaker 9: And I think that they needed to send a message
Speaker 9: to this team.
Speaker 11: They truly needed to send a message to this team
Speaker 11: because anybody who's been keeping an eye on the Raiders,
Speaker 11: this team, they've been losing the locker room.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 11: Josh McDaniels has never had the locker room of any
Speaker 11: locker room, I don't think in the history of everdom.
Speaker 11: So when you see him become a head coach, I think,
Speaker 11: if you're on that team, you're like, oh crap. You know,
Speaker 11: he just has not had a lot of success. Nor
Speaker 11: have you ever heard anybody yelling at the mountaintops about
Speaker 11: how great of a head coach he is. So I
Speaker 11: think that was an error. I think they forced that
Speaker 11: off the heels of the Gruden situation. I think they
Speaker 11: just went with something just to kind of steady the ship.
Speaker 7: And I don't, truly I don't think that was going
Speaker 7: to improve their chances of getting Tom Brady. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: you know, hey, hold on, I mean none, no, I
Speaker 7: don't want to say.
Speaker 2: Hold back on that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean so, I mean, hats off to them
Speaker 11: for making a decision standing on it, knowing cutting bait, right,
Speaker 11: Sometimes you gotta cut bait. Sometimes you're gonna lose some money.
Speaker 11: We talked about this in reference to to draft picks
Speaker 11: yesterday leading up to the trade deadline. Sometimes you're going
Speaker 11: to take a short term ail for you know, in
Speaker 11: terms of finances or salary caps or whatever, in terms
Speaker 11: in order to have the long run. And I think
Speaker 11: that's where this Raiders organization is. They were losing Davante Adam,
Speaker 11: Max Crosby's name had came up in trades, which is insane, right,
Speaker 11: So it's like some of your key pieces, guys who
Speaker 11: were tried and true loyals all get out.
Speaker 9: We're well respected around the league. You were starting to
Speaker 9: lose those guys.
Speaker 11: And if you lose those guys, then you lose all
Speaker 11: the leadership on your team. And this whole thing has
Speaker 11: this whole ship has been ran into the ground, honestly
Speaker 11: over there since they built the new the new stadium.
Speaker 11: It's a beautiful stadium, it's an amazing stadium, but the
Speaker 11: team has not been led. Yeah, since that, since that happened,
Speaker 11: and I think they want to get on track.
Speaker 6: And the small layer added to the frustration they're really
Speaker 6: quick is the fact that both of their first their
Speaker 6: first two draft picks have not been well, Like Tyrie
Speaker 6: Wilson has struggled bad and Michael Mayer he's only found
Speaker 6: his stride once this season, which has really surprised me.
Speaker 6: I think that's more of a developmental thing because Michael
Speaker 6: Mayor hasn't and then Tyrie Wilson has been awful when
Speaker 6: he's seen the field, So that's probably.
Speaker 9: Part of the frustration.
Speaker 6: Like imagine if there was a losing going on here
Speaker 6: three and five or whatever, it would be like, well,
Speaker 6: and you know, look at Mazzie Smith, you know, and
Speaker 6: it would just be like the.
Speaker 11: They they had some off the field stuff too with
Speaker 11: some of their other guys with the organizations.
Speaker 9: So sure, I mean, yeah, they need they need a
Speaker 9: new direction.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not surprised by the move. I think the
Speaker 5: way that it happened and the timing that it happened
Speaker 5: is kind of interesting. I Mean, you think about when
Speaker 5: the GM position is needed the most, and it's not
Speaker 5: the number one day on the NFL calendar, but it's
Speaker 5: very high up there. Trade deadline day is a big
Speaker 5: day for NFL gms, and the fact that maybe teams
Speaker 5: wanted to deal for DeVante Adams and couldn't get a
Speaker 5: hold of him because he was, you know, packing his
Speaker 5: desk up might have been one thing that I mean,
Speaker 5: that's just a weird, weird timing for it, But I
Speaker 5: get needed to make a move, maybe the head coaching thing.
Speaker 5: But you also, now that I'm even talking through this,
Speaker 5: you never want to allow out a GM that's on
Speaker 5: his way out the door to make a move that
Speaker 5: can hamstring.
Speaker 9: You for the rest of your Yeah.
Speaker 2: The next tenure of whoever's about the replace.
Speaker 11: I mean, if you're trying, if Devonte Adams is your
Speaker 11: cornerstone on offense and Max Crosby is your cornerstone on defense,
Speaker 11: and the ship was going a direction that was going.
Speaker 9: If you don't pull a move like that, what are you.
Speaker 5: Telling them that they just just hold on, just hang on,
Speaker 5: just just hang on.
Speaker 11: Trust me, trust me, We're gonna get this thing right. No, no,
Speaker 11: you're not getting it right now. You fired a head
Speaker 11: coaching the GM in the middle of the season, even
Speaker 11: though you're in the striking distance of leading the division
Speaker 11: and guess what they know. Now, Okay, all right, you're
Speaker 11: serious about this. Okay, I'm not gonna jump shave up yet.
Speaker 11: I was about to jump off right about to Adham.
Speaker 9: You see him the other day.
Speaker 11: He was about to jump on right. So now he's like,
Speaker 11: all right, let me wake this thing. Let me see
Speaker 11: what you guys, what y'all talking about?
Speaker 5: Because Isaiah's admin voice, right, he gets laughing and was
Speaker 5: about that.
Speaker 11: He was about to implode. If he was a cartoon
Speaker 11: character on Looney Tunes.
Speaker 9: He had to lab.
Speaker 7: And I agree with you, But in watching that game,
Speaker 7: I do have to say that when you sat back
Speaker 7: just now acting like, yeah, he's he can at least
Speaker 7: be cool with it. Part of the reason he's throwing
Speaker 7: his helmet is because of the quarterback play and that
Speaker 7: and that didn't get fixed last night.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that.
Speaker 9: Didn't get fixed.
Speaker 11: But but these guys were the reason why his guy
Speaker 11: is no longer at quarterback.
Speaker 10: That's true.
Speaker 11: So you want to communicate something to him, Yeah, that's saying, Hey,
Speaker 11: that's on me. It's my fault for letting these guys
Speaker 11: make a decision. Because we know why you came here.
Speaker 11: We know you came here to play with your boy,
Speaker 11: and now we got rid of your boy because of
Speaker 11: these two guys. So we're sorry, We're sorry. We're gonna
Speaker 11: we'll fix this in a little bit. But hey, I
Speaker 11: have to do this so that you know that I'm
Speaker 11: trying to fix this. I can't keep these guys in
Speaker 11: place until you on the side. Hey, we're going to
Speaker 11: take care of you on the back and just get
Speaker 11: through the season. Like, no guys are hearing.
Speaker 2: That now they want to win.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: They also just fired the OC like thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 9: Whooah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they're completely clearing house.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The other thing that whenever I try and put these
Speaker 7: headlines together, the other thing I was trying if there's
Speaker 7: anything NFC East related, I feel like fans care about that,
Speaker 7: probably a little bit more than maybe what's going on
Speaker 7: in Arizona. So we talked a little bit about the
Speaker 7: trade deadline obviously early in the show, but I wanted
Speaker 7: to talk specifically real quick about the Commanders and just
Speaker 7: the fact that you know there's new ownership there.
Speaker 10: They make these moves.
Speaker 7: They trade Sweat to Chicago for a second rounder, They
Speaker 7: trade Chase Young to San Francisco for a third so
Speaker 7: now they have next year they have a one, two, two's,
Speaker 7: two threes, and then their fourth, fifth, sixth, and seven.
Speaker 7: So it just seems like, especially because the ownership you know,
Speaker 7: has ties with the Philadelphia seventy six ers, it does
Speaker 7: seem like that they are just this is going full
Speaker 7: rebuild type thing. And the Cowboys haven't played Washington yet.
Speaker 7: So there's a part of you that, if you're a
Speaker 7: Cowboys fan, you got to be like, well, this looks
Speaker 7: good for these next two games again them, especially because
Speaker 7: there's been times last year, last game of the regular
Speaker 7: season where they've been a little bit of a thorn
Speaker 7: in your side. So there's part of you that must
Speaker 7: that probably likes that. But then the other part is
Speaker 7: you have to be somewhat concerned that what if they
Speaker 7: get this right and what if they hit on these
Speaker 7: draft picks and they turn this thing around.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 7: The only reason I use this as an example is
Speaker 7: just because it's been a while since the Commanders have
Speaker 7: been a team where you're just if you're following the
Speaker 7: Cowboys that you're looking at them that like, oh yeah,
Speaker 7: we got to worry about them. It just it's been
Speaker 7: a little so maybe this heads it in the right direction.
Speaker 7: But for this season, I know that they would probably
Speaker 7: hate to see Chase Young go to a team that
Speaker 7: Cowboys probably will have to go through in the postseason.
Speaker 7: But you see, I wanted to get your guys' thoughts
Speaker 7: on them really making those two key moves and then
Speaker 7: what it means for them going forward.
Speaker 5: I thought it was really interesting, Jonathan Allen, and you
Speaker 5: broke it down one of the national segments a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, just bleep it, he bleep, believe, bleep
Speaker 5: it the bleep about how he's tired, sick time, tired
Speaker 5: of losing. And then just a couple of weeks later,
Speaker 5: they trade his two running mates, I mean, Chase Young
Speaker 5: and in sweat or out the door, and now he's
Speaker 5: all alone, just sitting in Washington currently.
Speaker 10: So I mean, I don't know, they're like, Jonathan, you
Speaker 10: think it's bad right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just wait, just wait wait.
Speaker 11: I think this is more about getting some resources for
Speaker 11: Eric Banamy. You don't go out there and acquire Eric
Speaker 11: Banamy to leave him a situation he's in. So I
Speaker 11: think that you're going to say, hey, all of our
Speaker 11: investments rented this defensive line, right and these guys are good.
Speaker 11: They're really good. But guess what, these guys aren't scoring
Speaker 11: us any points. All of a sudden, we have probably
Speaker 11: the one of the greatest offensive minds in football that's
Speaker 11: now on our team.
Speaker 9: Let's get him some Let's get him some help.
Speaker 5: You said it when we were watching the game the
Speaker 5: other day, when they were cutting in with Philly and
Speaker 5: Washington highlights. You said, hey, Eric, b enemy is not
Speaker 5: going to be bad in Washington forever. He's going to
Speaker 5: find a way to make some plays and piece that
Speaker 5: thing together. It may not happen this year, but it
Speaker 5: might happen down the road if you're able to hold
Speaker 5: on to him.
Speaker 10: It's interesting.
Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up because so I guess
Speaker 7: I didn't think of it from that perspective. So I
Speaker 7: was thinking that maybe it's going to be a full
Speaker 7: clean out after the season.
Speaker 10: But you guys don't think that.
Speaker 5: They didn't get rid of any offensive pieces. They didn't
Speaker 5: get rid of Terry mclaurins is.
Speaker 11: Give him Eric Banamey and say hey, we got you. Like,
Speaker 11: we know you're trying to figure it out, but hey,
Speaker 11: this offseason, we promise you we're going to give you
Speaker 11: all the assets that you need to go out there
Speaker 11: and turn this offense into as much as possible with
Speaker 11: what we've seen you do down in Kansas City.
Speaker 5: It may be one of those kind of halfway rebuilds,
Speaker 5: like where they rebuild the defense with draft picks and
Speaker 5: then split some of those draft picks with the offense
Speaker 5: and try and find you number one.
Speaker 6: They're going to have to go take a quarterback.
Speaker 2: They got to go find a quarterback.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And it.
Speaker 6: Could be a situation too where they look up and
Speaker 6: see where their current draft positioning is at whatever record
Speaker 6: that they have, and be like, hey, let's let's trade
Speaker 6: away a couple of years trying to lose a few
Speaker 6: games and get higher on that draft list. Because I
Speaker 6: think once you get after pick fourteen, you're you're looking
Speaker 6: at a second round.
Speaker 2: Type quarterback like quarterback class, but it is.
Speaker 6: But I think your best scenario after pick fourteen would
Speaker 6: be like quin yours. I think Penix goes above fourteen.
Speaker 2: Right now, what about our receiver?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I just think it would be so funny.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it'd just be so funny if Michael Penix goes
Speaker 7: to the rival and you have to sit there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, he already plays for Washington.
Speaker 10: Look at that.
Speaker 2: But that's what you did that Washington.
Speaker 5: The Commanders would currently hold the eleventh pick in the
Speaker 5: draft if the season ended today with their three and
Speaker 5: five records, So they've got a little bit of a
Speaker 5: ways to go to be in really the sweepstakes to
Speaker 5: go get a quarterback.
Speaker 11: But I mean, but you by acquiring picks, that always
Speaker 11: gives you leverage for negotiations.
Speaker 9: Sure, yeah, always, So it's not a bad movie.
Speaker 11: Either you have negotiating power or you have power to
Speaker 11: go out there and just as symbol and start assimbling
Speaker 11: your squad for the future.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the other part.
Speaker 7: I was thinking, like just when I saw the list
Speaker 7: of all the picks that they had, I'm like, are
Speaker 7: they picking all with these guys or is this AMMO
Speaker 7: to kind of put together to possibly move up, because,
Speaker 7: like you mentioned, if you're gonna do that, it's it's
Speaker 7: probably for that quarterback.
Speaker 5: So you think about out the fact that Chicago traded
Speaker 5: that second round pick for Sweat. That's a high second
Speaker 5: round pick. Right now, that pick is sitting at thirty.
Speaker 10: What do they do for Chase Clay two A second?
Speaker 9: That's okay?
Speaker 6: That organization makes no sense to me. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 6: no sense to me if.
Speaker 2: It was a twenty five second.
Speaker 6: It feels like an eleven year old playing like Madden GM.
Speaker 10: And it will be Madden GM when they get Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5: And yeah one because they still have two and three
Speaker 5: in the draft.
Speaker 2: But yeah, very interesting across the board.
Speaker 10: They one right now, Arizona.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Arizona's got the number one.
Speaker 11: Yam in Chicago's been doing a good job since he
Speaker 11: got there, since he took over that position, he's been positioned.
Speaker 11: He missed on the claypool. But other than that, I
Speaker 11: don't know.
Speaker 2: They've won a lot of games.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying. I'm not saying for this like this year.
Speaker 11: I'm talking about like in terms of his position, what
Speaker 11: he's doing building this.
Speaker 9: This roster towards the future. Sometimes it's not the same
Speaker 9: year type of deal.
Speaker 6: I'm not spending a second round pick on Monto Sweat.
Speaker 2: That's just me personally.
Speaker 6: No, maybe, but everybody, every dog has everybody here, I guess.
Speaker 7: Or what's the high she would have went, like a
Speaker 7: third or you wouldn't even do a third.
Speaker 6: I don't love Montes Sweat. I think I should probably preface,
Speaker 6: but I'd go like a fourth Okay, yeah, but that's
Speaker 6: me not loving Montes swe.
Speaker 10: What would you have done for Chase Young?
Speaker 6: Chase Young, I would you could have talked me into
Speaker 6: a second, I think just because he's still young, and
Speaker 6: he was in a situation early in his career where
Speaker 6: he wasn't be able to he wasn't on the field
Speaker 6: because of injuries, or he was not able to he
Speaker 6: wasn't able to produce just in general. So there's a
Speaker 6: lot of hope still there for Chase Young. And I'm
Speaker 6: not saying there's not hope with Montest Sweat. I just
Speaker 6: think the talent level is obviously.
Speaker 5: The talent level is more significant with Young, but the
Speaker 5: availability of Sweat has been much better than Young across
Speaker 5: the years. But watch now that he's in a competitive organization,
Speaker 5: he's with this defensive front, he's with the guys around him,
Speaker 5: some of those ailments that have kept Chase Young out
Speaker 5: of ball games in the past is just gonna float
Speaker 5: off into the distance and he's going to be available
Speaker 5: quite a bit.
Speaker 2: He's going to be.
Speaker 10: Cutting into Randy Gregory's time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's happening. That's exactly what's happening. Remember when
Speaker 2: we thought that was gonna be something, No nobody ever
Speaker 2: thought that was gonna be anything, all right, anything else.
Speaker 2: That's national news and notes. We got to get out
Speaker 2: of here.
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