1 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: in Bria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: Coming to you live from an undisclosed location on the 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: west side of Cleveland. I am merely bo he is 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: the great Zee. Welcome into Cleveland. Browns Daily brought you 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: by Bally Beck, coming soon to Ohio. 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: How are you living, buddy, I'm doing great, having a 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: fireside chat with my with my best mate. I mean, 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: what could be better? I'm going to turn it on 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: out here. I think you should just be a visual 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: or the visual of it for the people. Yeah, we're 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: this is great thriving right as of now, both eyes functional, 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: so it feels good. 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: At some point before this, uh, our our time here 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: in the undisclosed location is over. We need to do 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: this show in a smoking jacket and an ascot. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: I have no problem with that. In front of the 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: fire could job, I have no problem with that. For 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: the rager you. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: Proposed, Yeah, well, I think this feels like a perfect 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: place to hold a rager. Yeah, what's the movie with 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Seth Rogan and where they do that. They have the 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: rager that he's like the married couple with the young kid, 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: and then the neighbors neighbors. 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: I think so I as zach Efron and the younger Franco. 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that is great. That's really good. 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: It holds up. 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: That might have been like the last of the there 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: was those R rated comedies that started with like wedding crashers. 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: It maybe ended there, yea, because I don't think they 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: make those anymore, but there was like a fifteen year 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: period where they made them, and that might have been 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: the last one of those that that happened. 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: It was good, super bad. 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: And all those were in there. Yeah, yeah, that was 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: pretty good. I think we could do that here. There's 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: that type of vibe. The other thing that we have 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: this undisclosed location is kind of like a cul de 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: sac within a cul de. 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: Sac, which is a rarity. 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, to have two cul de sacs stacking on top 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: of one another. 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're not leaving. This is the dream scene. 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: It was the starting five right here. I mean, there's 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: a there's a Bacco nation that needs to be represented. 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: Where are you going to go your character be Orlando 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: Ledbetter got a shout out again yesterday. Yeah he's he's 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: doing well. Yeah, we got Bacco here, we got we 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: got Yellowstone. Yellowstone drews here, Yellowstone drew still. I have 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: to and we have to. I have to. Hello, Gimbck. 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: I might have made a disparage and comment about the 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: stream not being up yesterday and Yellowstone was listening, and 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with him. 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: Of course, anything to do with him. There's a lot 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: from a place of love and not living in a 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: place of hate. Shut up. See that's where I'm at 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: with you. Negativity. Right, My mom is furious with that compo. 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: That is, you don't talk to people that way. Give me, 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm just getting warmed up. 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 4: So really, I need to apologize to the great Yellowstone 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: because I know it's it has nothing to do with him. 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate all of his efforts. He literally built this contraption. 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is quite good. We are on the stream 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: right now. It's wonderful. Look at this. By the way, 68 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: I apologize to my good friend, and I'd like my 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: apology next. But never this. None of this is that 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: you're looking at. None of this was here yesterday. Not 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: one piece of any of this. All of this happened 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: yes between last evening and the twist morn yesterday show 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: and today's show A. 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Little bit TwixT too, Gimby, can you turn me up 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: just a little there? 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Now? Now you're now you're talking, Now you're cooking with gas? Good? 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Is Drew aware that they have not even started filming Yellowstone. 78 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: It's it feels like it's it's over. We're never going 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: to get Yellowstone. 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're gonna I think I think 81 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: you will be these we're going to be Yeah, I 82 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: think it's going to be a minute. 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: Hey. 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: I had an interesting conversation with NBC last night. The 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: other party, the other two were going to bed, and 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: I think I told you this yesterday. After all the 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: stuff was done on Saturday and all of the youth 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: sports and all of it, and my wife and oldest 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: were in Fort Wayne for basketball, I was left alone. 90 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: To my own devices. Oh baby, by the time the boys. 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Nine o'clock, and so I had the hockey on on 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: one TV. I want to see if the maple leafs 93 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: could move on. 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: And then I had kind of in the mood to 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: see Predator. I haven't seen Predator a long time. Let's 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: see what Schwartzeneger's up to. Like, I'm in so grab 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: it on. It's on the stream, it's on HBO. Watch Predator. 98 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Like the opening of Predator is so great you can't 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: even wrap your head around those people getting off the chopper, 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: all of it. 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: So fast forward to last night. 102 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: We're sitting there, the littles were in bed, and NBC 103 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: was sitting there and I said, buddy, you got to 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: see the first twenty minutes of Predator, Like this is unbelievable, 105 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: Like just their approach to this, wherever they are in 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: South America getting off Schwarzenegger with a cigar. Hold your questions, please, 107 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I'll get it to a second. And and so as 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: we're watching, I go, that's about all that you can watch? 109 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: And he goes, he goes, Dad, why why can't I 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: watch more? I'm like, dude, you're not ready for Predator? 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? You're not even close to ready 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: for that? 113 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: And he goes. 114 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: He fires back to me, he goes, well, when did 115 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: you see your first R rated movie? And I thought, checkmate, 116 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: for sure i'd seen it by then. Yeah, I'd seen 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: Predator by eleven. I'd seen Predator came out in eighty seven, 118 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: so do the math on that one. I'd seen Rambo 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: at that point. I definitely had seen First Blood. Yeah, 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: what was the first R rated movie you remember seeing? 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: Can you say on the air? I don't know, but 122 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: I've seen all of those and I saw all of 123 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 3: those as they came. 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Out young for Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, right, yeah, 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: I think it was. I mean the first time I remember, 126 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: and I know the first one I saw was First 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: Blood and that came out like that was on VHS. 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: I mean, my first memory of an R rated movie 129 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: that I know for sure that I saw, and I 130 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: don't even know what year it came out. I'd be 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: curious to look that up. I actually do that as 132 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: I talked, was the one that I first said, what's 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: the first R rated movie you remember seeing? The first 134 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: one I remember seeing was Basic Instinct. Well that is 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: on a whole other level, but that's that's what you said. 136 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: First thing. But I know there were two types I'd seen, 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: violent or alien like I saw Alien when I was 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: young and I was freaked out. 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and horror movies. There were a lot of horror 140 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: I would guess ninety two. I was gonna say I 141 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: would have guessed ninety one on base against yea. So 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: that was that was down the road. But thirteen fourteen, yeah, 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: not where you're supposed to be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, certainly, 144 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 2: but the violent ones I think I started seeing probably 145 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: at ninety ten. 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: They were corny eighties kind of and although Predator can 147 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: Is is cool and scary, Alien was terrifying, the ramat 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: Rambos are great. Yeah, I was playing. I watched all 149 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: of those movies because I remember I would play the 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: video games. There was a great Rambo video game. Yeah, 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: there was that. 152 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that I think that stuff all came later, 153 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: Like that's almost like Nintendo. 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: I remember being at my buddy Matt Davis's house, and 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: that is definitely before I was in high school, and so. 156 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah that's like middle school though, like he's in fifth grade. Yeah, 157 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: but I think he has a point. I think it 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: is time like for me to I think he can 159 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: watch that. I think he's no, no, I'm not showing basic 160 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: instinct for no. I think from a you know, in 161 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: that world, like I think I could. I think it's 162 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: time to show him Brambo. Yeah, show him a little 163 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: bit of Predator. 164 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: It was also, I think different than I think that 165 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: a lot of those those movies and what is disclosed 166 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: in those films is very different than I think what 167 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: we even think of is our movies now because the 168 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: envelope has been pushed so far. I mean, Predator is ultraviolent, 169 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: ultraviol island. Yeah, but you can say listen like and 170 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: pretty really I mean pretty from a realism stand there 171 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: some people that are ripped right apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, disemboweled. Yeah, 172 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 3: you got a whole lot going on there for sure. Okay, 173 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: you had a question. No, I wasn't a question. I 174 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: was gonna drop a fact on you. So Predator, yep, 175 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: was filmed in Portavarda. Oh I did not know that. Yeah, 176 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: same area that I want to say Night of the 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: Iguanas was filmed, which was a classic film. 178 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 179 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: And there's actually one of the towns you go to, 180 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: one of the beach towns you can take like a 181 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: little hike back or a mule ride back or a 182 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: horse ride riding on your your your species of choice. Ye. 183 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: And there's a cafe and the cafe has the helicopter 184 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: is like a couple of the trees like suspended over 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: and that's kind of the backdrop of the cafe. Oh 186 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: that's pretty good. And I've so I've eaten there because obviously, 187 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, Pedro was like we got to see that. 188 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: Pedro is a big predator guy. Oh yeah, yeah. The 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: Predator restaurant portavyyarda canopy led and take a zipline there. Yeah, 190 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: but this is yeah, it's the one that's off of 191 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: Miss Maloya here. It is Compo Paradise. Yeah, and they've 192 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 3: got they've got the whole thing. You got the helicopters 193 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 3: in here, the whole deal. There's a predator that set 194 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: up there. That's pretty good. It'll come when it comes through, 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: i'll show you back. But yet, so there's a restaurant. 196 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: You can go there and and uh and have it. 197 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: So the predator that's that's right where it was filmed. 198 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: It's near Miss Maloya. Sure enough that now now it 199 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: makes me feel like I need to go to Port 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: of absolutely. Yeah. So here's the restaurant over this like waterfall. 201 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: It's great. Look at that. You get the waterfall, you 202 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: get some predator stuff, you get the helicopter. You can 203 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 3: go do some sliding. Oh, there's a guy there he 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: is eating. Oh yeah, where's the helicopter. There, there's the 205 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: back of it. Yeah, you get the whole, the whole deal. 206 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: It's so great. Oh there is predator stands on top 207 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: of the helicopter and you can walk up there. Yeah, 208 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: that's the one from the movie. That's great. Yeah. Right, 209 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: the reveal of that thing's face still pretty great and 210 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: pretty terrifying. Yeah, that's the one that would I think 211 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: be he might not be ready for that. To me, 212 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: it's it's more his ability to cloak that makes him 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: a real problem. 214 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: Dutch as played by Arnie or the actual predator, the 215 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: actual predator. Yeah, the fact that he can that has 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: becomes visible. Yeah, that's a bit of a problem, That's 217 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 218 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: That's tough. You have to look and see maybe ripples 219 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: in the trees and you're like that's odd. And then 220 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: by the time that happens too typically you're done. 221 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: Great arsenal weaponry on him too. The predator had Arnold 222 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: was able to really snip it out with just covering 223 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: himself in mud. 224 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: And then some some quickly made together bows and arrows. 225 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Arnold is formidable and also isn't I'm 226 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 3: not mistaken. I don't want to because there's so many 227 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: of this genres. 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: The bodies in this yeah dude, right, the body is 229 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: the first one off the chopp Yeah, he's the best 230 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: the bodies off. Billy Landam's in this movie. Bill Duke 231 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: gets off in a suit. Oh, I mean, it's the 232 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: most ridiculous opening scene you'll ever see. 233 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Jesse. The body got former governor of two governor governs 234 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: in this film in that chopper. 235 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that Billy Landham ran for like 236 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: governor in Oklahoma. 237 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: Oh. 238 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: Man, Carl Weathers, I mean Weathers, Dylan. I mean it's great. 239 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: What a heater for Carl Weathers coming off of dying 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: in Rocky four straight. 241 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Oh god, I forgot how formidable Sunny Landam was. 242 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, he's terrifying that face, yeah yeah, oh yeah, Yeah, that's. 243 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: A lot going. What a great cast. 244 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable cast. Yeah, it's unbelievable cast. All right, 245 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: we uh hear from the undisclosed location. Uh, the team 246 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: has begun the second phase of the offseason workouts. Uh, 247 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: what exactly does that mean for the people. 248 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: Phase two three weeks, four hours a day. In addition 249 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: to what you can do in Phase one, you now 250 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: can have all coaches allowed on the field. Individual and 251 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: perfect play drills are allowed, and that means offense on air, 252 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: we're going through things. Defense can play on air, no 253 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: offense first defense, no one on one, no helmets. But 254 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 3: they can be in jerseys. They can get out there, 255 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: they can get after it, which is I think pretty cool. 256 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: So there is Again, coaches were not allowed out there 257 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: at the beginning. It was just limited to strength and 258 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: conditioning activities. Only strength and conditioning coaches were allowed on 259 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: the field. And now you've got everybody out there. It's 260 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: a little bit of going through the offense. It's a 261 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: little bit of what this thing's going to look like 262 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: now here for the Cleveland Browns, and quite frankly, I 263 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: can tell you coaches are excited about it. Players are 264 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: excited about it. And uh, this is kind of the 265 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: first step to laying. These are the bottom bricks that 266 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: are being later the found mission, the cement that is 267 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: being poured. The footers, the footers, baby, the footers are 268 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: being poured right now. That's right, Yeah, that's where that's 269 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: sound that goes mister sir, the Dallas Cowboys could take 270 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: note of what you're doing here today, a consistent theme 271 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: in your navy blue. You have blue at all three levels, 272 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: same blue, tie in some silver, tie in some white. 273 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: I mean you are doing the Cowboys better than the 274 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: cowboys today with your outfit. I guess I am. 275 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: I got it was unintended and the way intended in 276 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: terms of I guess. I feel like when I get up, 277 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: I do think to myself, does this work? 278 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Yep? You know in some way. And I thought we 279 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: could go business casual because we're here fireside chatting, no doubt, 280 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: so you know, you didn't have to dress it up 281 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: too much. Well. And by the way, it's thirty degrees outside. 282 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean that's why you're in a vest I'm in 283 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: a hoodie. It is freezing and rain. I didn't want 284 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: to talk about it because it's too much. 285 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: Buddy Garretty looked at me this morning as we went 286 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: in on the walk, and right before he was ready 287 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: to take a dump, he looked at me and I 288 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: could tell that the emotion he had was one of 289 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: disgust as he shook his fur and the just the 290 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: rainy grossness came off, and I said, you're not wrong, Bud, 291 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: You're not wrong. 292 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, Ace. It goes out and then she think, 293 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: can I pull a fast one yep, and just pretend 294 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: that I've gone and get my morning treats, get my 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: sn snacks. Yeah, And then I just look at him 296 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: like no, and she looks at me like, come on, really, 297 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: get out there, do it, get your job done, and 298 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: then come in. I do think that dog's ability to 299 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: that shake that they do and the shake and twist 300 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: where their whole body is like yeah, yeah, to dry 301 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: themselves off is really incredible. It put me awesome out 302 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: of the shower. If you could do that, yeah, if 303 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: you could just like have your it's almost like your 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: whole central nervous system goes completely haywire for a second, 305 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: but in a very coordinated way, and then they're dry. Yeah. 306 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: What a treat. 307 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a That is a good win. Brown's 308 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: Therapy's done a fantastic job. He already has a super 309 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: imposed predator. 310 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: It's the picture of you looks just great. Oh man, 311 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see this. Yeah, that's very good. 312 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: Good job out of BT. He's always good. Yeah, that's incredible. 313 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: By the way, a little bit official business, The Browns 314 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: have indeed picked up the fifty year option of Jed Wills. 315 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: We've talked about that. It had been reported and reported 316 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: and reported, but it is now officially official from our team. 317 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: Didn't we do that yesterday? We did, but it wasn't 318 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: officially official. Oh, officially official, saying first R movie he 319 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: saw was Terminator two. Oh, I saw that. 320 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: I think I saw that in the theater, saying that 321 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: was one that I was pretty sure, like I talked 322 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: to absolutely. Yeah, there's a particularly brutal death scene in 323 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: that because that guy could a lot of shape shifting, 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: you mean, the one where he just goes through the 325 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: it's amazing. But we both did the same with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 326 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: that's right. That's how that sorts. 327 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: Oh man, we look ferocious, We look good, right. Yeah, 328 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: your time in the gym is really working out for you. 329 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: It really is great. Tan on your body too. Yeah, 330 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: it's good. 331 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: That one or the one where I'm super imposed over 332 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: bo Jackson and the bonos, those are the those will 333 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: be two highlights for me, certainly. 334 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: No going forward. The only thing I would say is 335 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: those pictures I don't think do your true physique justice. 336 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: Other than that, I think they're both pretty good. They're 337 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: both pretty good. Yeah. 338 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there you go. Look, this is a little 339 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: bit of a downtime. There's a lot to get to here. 340 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: We we are now into the off season program. As 341 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: we mentioned, you're going to the schedule release, which will 342 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: be next week's next Friday. On that you're building towards 343 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Mini camp and then you're done for about a month 344 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: and then you're back to work. And that's the way 345 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: it's going to go. And our summer will be even 346 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: shorter because of the Hall of Fame game. So we 347 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: know those things are happening as well. And the Greenbrier, 348 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: but of course is that has that officially beneficial yet? No, Okay, 349 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: I had, I did have. 350 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: There was one. 351 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: We did get a tweet telling us that there's another 352 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: place down there that I was unaware of. 353 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: He sent me a picture of it. It was something 354 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: that it's like sam yeah, yes, well, yes, that is 355 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: the Greenbrier has all the Sam Snead stuff. Yes. In fact, 356 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: one of the places is Sammy's. Yeah that's thet Yeah. Yeah, 357 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: Because the Greenbrier, I mean, both courses kind of emanate 358 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: from the same spot over that. 359 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: Point, right, if you go to the Greenbrier at a 360 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: day and go to the real gym of the mountains, 361 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: the Omni Homestead, thirty eight miles away, the home of 362 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: same snead, fantastic courses and. 363 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: A way way better resort. I don't know about that. 364 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, I have no I mean, 365 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: I was at the Greenbrier last year, so I know 366 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: exactly what that is. I I don't know. 367 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: I would say that from a from an ease, from 368 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: an ease to get to standpoint. It's tough, man. It's 369 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: five now, and it's not an easy five and a half. 370 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: It is a mountain drive. When we did it last summer, 371 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: it was in a downpour Vietnam, finn As soon as 372 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: I crossed over the West Virginia line, it was a downpour. 373 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: Uh there are no berms river, Yeah, there are no berms, 374 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Like you're the side of the. 375 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: Road is oh yeah, mountain yeah yeh yeah. 376 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: So like at one point you start to contemplate, like 377 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: a flat tire would be catastrophic. 378 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: Really problematic. Yeah, we went. It's when we went to 379 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: North Carolina and the head of COVID and we just 380 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: that we drove there. That was that was our entree. 381 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: That was an eight hour drive. We basically did the 382 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: drive to the Greenbrier for about five and it's like, oh, 383 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: you still have three hours to go. Sweet cool, that's awesome. 384 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah's keep going, Let's keep let's do this. Yeah, keep going. 385 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: It still was a lovely time. 386 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: Uh. 387 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: By the way, this is just an aside, and I 388 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: hope that and I feel like, you know, normally, when 389 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: when people decide in an industry or something to move 390 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: on from somebody, you know, it's normally like, oh, yeah, 391 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: we thank you so much for your time here. We 392 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 3: wish you well in your future endeavors. You know. That's 393 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: a big one, uh, with the with the WWE obviously, 394 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: But I really enjoy what came out today because I 395 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: find this guy to be as about as unlikable an 396 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: athlete since maybe the Great Meat Cleaves that the Grizzlies 397 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: have informed Dylan Brooks that quote he will not be 398 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: brought back under any circumstances, which I feel like just 399 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: a great way to say thank you. No, thank you. 400 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: I have never seen under any circumstances like you're not wanted. No, 401 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: we don't want you here, don't walk in the place 402 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: you're on. 403 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: Your key cards turned off. Yeah, there is no you 404 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: could play here for free, not in not interested, or 405 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: no set of circumstances. Noop, I think that. 406 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: He I believe I had this that when he you 407 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: do not poke, you don't spin into the wind, you 408 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: don't pull the mask off the olone ranger, and you 409 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: don't poke Lebron James man, you. 410 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: Don't do it. You don't do it well, and so 411 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: him do it like this has ended as poorly. 412 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Not only did he play terribly and his team be 413 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: eliminated and they were the two seed behind you, but 414 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: now his like his whole thing is spiraled, spiral. 415 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: He really blew it. He went for a You admire 416 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: the swing, right, you best hit. When he come at 417 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: the King, you miss. Now he missed, and the King 418 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: actually just dominated him because he is the king. So 419 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: there you go. Let's do a couple of minutes here on. 420 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: Do we have you have mis Brugler coming up in 421 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: ten minutes? 422 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh, he's at ten. Okay, all right, we'll save that. 423 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: Then we'll take a look at some of the fifth 424 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: year options. Dane will join us in about ten minutes 425 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: and we will, we will go over where we ended up, and. 426 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: He already had a mock up for next year. Yes. Yes, 427 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: by the way, it was a pretty good one for 428 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. 429 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's I think it's probably setting 430 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: in for people what that was. But it's also something 431 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: I didn't realize when I initially discussed that trade on Friday, 432 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: was that the specificity of which Texans pick they traded. 433 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: So they're getting Houston's pick, not our pick. 434 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, but I didn't know that. Nobody knew 435 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: that on Friday. That didn't come out till the weekend. Yeah, 436 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: that they got the one. I was thinking, they can. 437 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: If you're here soon, you can, Fine, you can have Cleveland's. 438 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: It's fine. Then it'll be mid twenty. But no, no, 439 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna dig yours and that's how that's gonna go. 440 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, by the way, has there ever been a 441 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: lame duck franchise quarterback earning gobs of money? 442 00:20:59,760 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: Like? 443 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: It feels like Kyler's now a lame duck franchise quarterback? 444 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: To me, well, I would write if I were them, 445 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: I would redshirt him. Yeah, you don't blame, but I 446 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: don't blame at all, protect the asset and you get 447 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: rid of DeAndre Hopkins. 448 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: Sure, and you try to flip him next year, or 449 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: you get the Kings ransom for number one overall like 450 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: five ones for cayleb Williams. 451 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Try to send I think you try to send Kyler 452 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: to My guess is Miami. I don't see two of 453 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: making multiple seasons. Yeah he Kyler do well in Atlanta too, great? Fine, 454 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: but even better, even better? Yeah, all right, beijon, there 455 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: you go, you boy, we'll get to all of that. 456 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: Brug learn about ten minutes off running clevel The Browns 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: Daily eight fifty ESPN. 458 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Back 459 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 460 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: Wow the guard Trucker motorcycle exit cause you injury called 461 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: the injury lawyers that when I entered ELK, Ohio for 462 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: a free case review, Elk and Oaks proud partner of 463 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns fifty year options. 464 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Okay, everything good. I'm excited. I'm thrilled. This is this 465 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: to be is pure joy. You and I are sitting 466 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: in very comfortable these chairs are super comfiing. Yeah, I'm loving. 467 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: They're great. We're by the fire, We've got a little 468 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: NFL network on behind us. We're staring at the beautiful 469 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: faces of Gibbet and Yellowstone Drew. I mean, what could 470 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: be better right now with the weather. But other than that, 471 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: it's yeah, but we're indoors currently, that's true. 472 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: I mean, if the weather was nice, we wouldn't want 473 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: to bet. 474 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's true that maybe we need to go to 475 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: a Victors No, Uncle Victor's got the patio. Oh we 476 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: got a patio right here. No no, no, no, no, 477 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: he has a deck. We got a patio. What do 478 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: you need to have a patty? That looks like the 479 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: square footage that's needed. There's a concrete slab right there, 480 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: but it's got to be chairs. It's not like that's 481 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: twenty feet down. I'm sitting here and all I can 482 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: see is grass. It can't be that big. It's big 483 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: enough for a table and chairs. Oh it it goes out, 484 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: got a nice view to it means lovely, come come 485 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: mini camp week, just camp out. 486 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: Remember undisclosed location giving yeah whatever, undisclosed. Last thing we 487 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: need is our throngs of fans showing up here breaking 488 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: the door down. 489 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: Can't have that. I bet they would. They would if 490 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: it's a mistaken identity situation and they're getting somebody else. Jeez, 491 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: you're getting you're getting all that juice. By the way, 492 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: shout out to Beechwood Dental was there today, TM, it's it. 493 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: Going the dentist is something that most people don't enjoy. 494 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: It's like going to an amusement park. It's an amusement 495 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: park up dentists. I'm serious and I'm not saying that 496 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: that's not fluff. That is for real. It is the 497 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: best doctor Mickley and his crew. They hook you up, 498 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: they take great care of you, and it is it's 499 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: in enjoyable and relaxing to go to Dennis. Now, when 500 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: you come out of there and somebody recognizes you and 501 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: that calls you a different name, not as enjoyable, but 502 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: not their fault. Beat with Dentell number one. Big good 503 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: job out of them. A terrifying case of mistaken identity. 504 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: It was happened. It was terrified. Here are the declined 505 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: fifth year options. Chase Young on that list. We knew 506 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: that last, but they want two ones for him. Okay, 507 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: all right? CJ. 508 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Henderson the cornerback out of Carolina, Javon Kinlaw with the 509 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, calebon Chase On which is one of 510 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: my favorite names ever yep in the draft from Jacksonville, 511 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: Kenneth Murray junior with the Chargers, Cesar Ruiz of the Saints, 512 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks, Patrick Queen two off ball linebackers, both off 513 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: well way. 514 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: They drafted Queen's replacement. I said that on Friday night 515 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 3: when they drafted the kid out of Clemson. Yeah. Bet 516 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: they're not paying Queen and Roquan Semess, so they need 517 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: a rookie to stay in here. At Roquan Samiss in 518 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: that linebacking room's overall money stays reasonable, so he's out 519 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: of there. Jordan Brooks, I'm surprise. He's good and he 520 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: is really good, but he's coming off an injury, right. 521 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: And Kenneth Murray has been for the Chargers, but it's 522 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: off ball linebacker. They're not locking themselves into a guaranteed 523 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: money situation with an offall. That's just the way that 524 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: it works. Did I hear that? Uh? Do sus was 525 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: not dos declined as well off ball linebacker. Yeah, bring 526 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: them home. Yeah, I'd love to have him. Give me 527 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: soons and Brooks was hurt right last year because he 528 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: was unbelievable. Yeah, I think he's coming off of a 529 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: it's a lot one hundred and three tackles last year. 530 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: I thought he got hurt at the end of last year. 531 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 3: But maybe I'm wrong. But they brought Bobby back Wagner 532 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: last year he had one hundred and sixty one tackles, 533 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: so he did have a knee injury, Yeah, but still 534 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixtyo tackles. Interesting, Yeah, he had an 535 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: ACL at the end of the year. That's what I thought. 536 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: I thought that there was some some sort of an 537 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: injury issue. I think in the last final game of 538 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: the year as a matter of fact, because. 539 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: He finish had one hundred and sixty tackles and it 540 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: had to be late in the season, an early baby. 541 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: That's a lot going on. 542 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: Shocking the Vikings picking up just Jefferson's fifth year object 543 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: as well, So that's a shocker on that side of things. 544 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: All right, we'll do some draft grades with Dane go 545 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: over our picks with him coming up next. 546 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 547 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet coming 548 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 549 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Brown's Daily on a 550 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Time to head out on that Twisted 551 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: Tea Hotline brought to by Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea, 552 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. 553 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: Our good buddy, Dane Brugler or the athletic joining us. Buddy, 554 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: you ever get a rest, I see you dropping a 555 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: mock for twenty twenty four today. You just came off 556 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: the biggest week end of the year. You're getting a 557 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: little time away here in the next couple week. 558 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: I will take some time the next few weeks here 559 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 6: to just recharge, you know, kind of collect myself, coach, 560 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 6: coach a little baseball, little softball, my kids. So yeah, 561 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 6: I definitely have some downtime coming up here, and then 562 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: you know, around June first, dive right back into it 563 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 6: and get ready for next year. 564 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: It's amazing. You do the best, buddy. When you look back. 565 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: Before we get into the Brown specific in terms of 566 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: league wide, were there any trends, maybe positional trends or 567 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: team trends that you liked didn't like what jumped out 568 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: big picture NFL in the draft. 569 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: Over the weekend. 570 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was really interesting the 571 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 6: runs on certain positions that we saw with tackles going 572 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 6: early because teams knew that was a position that was 573 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: going to thin out pretty quickly, so the tackles are 574 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: off the board all in the top half of round one. 575 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting with some of the tight end, 576 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 6: like it's such a strong tight end class, and a 577 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 6: lot of teams passed on a tight end in round 578 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 6: one because they felt good about the tight end that 579 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: would be available in the second round, you know, and 580 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 6: so that was it was also interesting to hear from 581 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: different teams the order of the tight end and like 582 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: the Buffalo Bills traded up to get Dalton Kincaid because 583 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 6: they wanted to jump to Cowboys at twenty six. Turns out, 584 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: you know, talking to my people in Dallas, Sam Laporta 585 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 6: was the top tight end on their draft board and 586 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 6: a guy they were considering at twenty six. So, you know, 587 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 6: the tight end and how all that worked out was interesting. 588 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 6: You know, wide receiver, this is a quote unquote down 589 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 6: year for receiver relative to the last two years, especially 590 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 6: but you know what, we still saw these guys fly 591 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 6: off the board. What twenty twenty one, twenty two. You know, 592 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 6: these guys teams want to be more dynamic on offense, 593 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 6: and so even though this wide receiver group wasn't on 594 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 6: the same level as the past years, we still saw 595 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 6: these guys fly off the board because it's all about 596 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: scoring points. It's all about you know, who's going to 597 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 6: help put points on the board, and nobody outside of 598 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 6: a quarterback is going to help you do that better 599 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 6: than a wide receiver. So some really interesting fit. I mean, 600 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 6: Jackson's within Jigles Seattle, what a perfect fit for that offense. 601 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 6: Gino Smith's got to be doing just that. I would 602 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 6: love to have a camera on Gino when that pick 603 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 6: was made. That that of Seattle is going to be 604 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 6: a real contender this year because of moves like that 605 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 6: on offense. And then even you know like Jordan Addison 606 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 6: in Minnesota, what that means for Justin Jefferson in that offense. 607 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 6: Quentin Johnston going to said the Chargers, and you know 608 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: how that's going to help Justin Herbert and then of 609 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 6: course Dave Flowers now in the AMC North. I mean, 610 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 6: it's amazing how much that Baltimore Ravens narrative of the 611 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: passing game, how much that's changed over the last month. 612 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 6: Now with Lamar Jackson locked up for five years, you 613 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 6: add with Odell Beckham in the fold, you add Nelson Agalore, 614 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: Rashaan Bateman former first round pick come on off an injury, 615 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 6: and you they flowers of the mix, and oh yeah, 616 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 6: more g Andrews is still there. So all of a sudden, 617 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 6: the passing game in Baltimore with Todd Mounkin and the 618 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: whole narrative has shifted pretty quickly. 619 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly has. And it's because it feels like 620 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: it's in arms race in the AFC. You're talking about 621 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: teams just loading up on those guys who either score 622 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: the ball, protect the guys who score the ball, or 623 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: the defensive side to go after twenty seven of the 624 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: thirty one picks where either quarterbacks, pass catchers, you know, 625 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: offensive tackles or pass rushers or corners, and that I 626 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: think is positions. And yet the Lions took two of 627 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: the four that didn't fit into that category in one round. 628 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: Is that something that you just expect to be kind 629 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: of the norm here in the NFL going forward, and 630 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: how surprised were you as talented as Bjon Robinson is, 631 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: and he is very talented that he that he went 632 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: in the top eight to a team like how much 633 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: better do the Falcons think they can get running the ball? 634 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: That one shotted me? But just overall kind of the 635 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: thoughts on the positions, and then you know what the 636 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: Falcons did with bj. 637 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: Not only that, but then the second round they drafted 638 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: arguably the best zone blocking guard in Matthew Berzron. So 639 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 6: this is a team that knows what they are and 640 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 6: they're leaning into it. So there's something to be said 641 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 6: about strengthening your strength and I think that's certainly something 642 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 6: the Falcons are looking to do. Yet, you know the Lions, 643 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 6: I think that when Devin Witherspoon was drafted at five 644 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 6: to Seattle, which is a shock, you know, you think 645 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 6: about Pee Carroll, John Schneider GM. This is their fourteenth 646 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 6: draft together in Seattle. They had never drafted her corner 647 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 6: in the first round before. And when you especially coming 648 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 6: off a year where they found two starting level corners 649 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 6: on Day three last year, why would you You don't 650 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 6: need to, but that tells you how much they love 651 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: Devin Witherspoon, But I think that really threw off the 652 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 6: Lions at six. As soon as that pick was made 653 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: at five, Lions are kind of scrambling a little bit. 654 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 6: They trade back then at twelve. They just didn't feel 655 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 6: like they'd get Jamior Gibbs at eighteen, and I think 656 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 6: that pushed everything up, so instead of getting Jack Campbell later, 657 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 6: they just do it at eighteen. And you know, we'll 658 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 6: never know for sure if Jack Campbell would have lasted 659 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 6: to them until the second round or not, but I 660 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 6: think there's a good Betty would have I don't know 661 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 6: that there was another team in the first round that 662 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 6: was going to draft Jack Campbell. But you know, once 663 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 6: all these guys get the training camp, you get on 664 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 6: the field, it's not really about that. It's just about 665 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: good players. And I think that's more than anything. Yes, 666 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 6: it's draft is about value and strategy and maximizing what 667 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 6: you can do, but at the same time, it's also 668 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 6: about adding good football players, and I think the Lions 669 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 6: feel confident they did that. 670 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: Let's go into some of our guys, and I know 671 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: that you liked our class quite a bit, especially from 672 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: the value standpoint. Cedric Tillman is a guy that you 673 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: watch a lot of college football. You're very well aware 674 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: of what he did in twenty twenty one. Started this 675 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: year on a very very high note, or last year rather, 676 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: I guess with the win at it's one hundred and 677 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: sixty one in that game, and then gets hurt and 678 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: it's kind of a forgotten guy. What do you make 679 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: of him and the fit here with Deshaun Watson now 680 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: piloting this offense. 681 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 6: Well, Cedric Tillman was one of the few true X 682 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 6: receivers in this draft. Six three and a half two 683 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 6: hundred and fifteen pounds, a guy that coming into the season, 684 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 6: you know, talking to scouts, they thought he was a 685 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 6: borderline first round picked late one, early two, and a 686 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 6: chance to really blow up this year with Hennon Hooker 687 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 6: in that offense. And of course he missed most of 688 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 6: the year with that that tight rope ankle surgery came back, 689 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: wasn't quite right. Wanted arrest it a little bit more. 690 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 6: But this is a big bodied receiver who could be 691 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 6: a possession threat on those back shoulders and comeback routes 692 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 6: and you know, not going to create a ton of separation, 693 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 6: but he doesn't need to because of his body and 694 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 6: the way he catches the football. But he can also 695 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 6: win vertically. You know, he has the straight line speed 696 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 6: to win over the top. I mean if four or 697 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 6: five four doesn't you know, maybe doesn't jump off the 698 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 6: page as this blazing forty or dash time. But let's 699 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 6: remember he's two hundred and fifteen pounds. This is a 700 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 6: big guy moving pretty well. I mean Quinton Johnston, he's lighter, 701 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 6: and he ran a four or five to one, So 702 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 6: it's not like, you know, Quint Johnston going in the 703 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 6: first round. Surprised Tillman lasted to the pick seventy four. 704 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 6: I expected him to go off the board somewhere between 705 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: forty and sixty. And I don't think the Browns expected 706 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 6: him to be there. And I don't think they went 707 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 6: into Day two, you know, thinking Okay, we're gonna come 708 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 6: away with his first pick, absolutely with a wide receiver. 709 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 6: But they the Browns did a really good job of 710 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 6: letting the board follow to them and really maximizing the 711 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 6: value with each one of those picks. Cedric Tillman great 712 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: example of that. You know, you when you make these 713 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: draft picks, especially third fourth round, you're not only thinking 714 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 6: about twenty twenty three, you're thinking about twenty twenty four, 715 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, what do those rosters look like? And 716 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 6: a guy like Cedric Tillman he is now because the 717 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 6: wide receiver depth chart is a pretty there's a lot 718 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 6: of bodies right now for the Browns, but moving forward, 719 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 6: Cedric Tillman you pencil him in as the ex moving forward, 720 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 6: and you feel pretty good about him being a I 721 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 6: won't say like a true difference maker, but a guy 722 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 6: that could be a weapon in this offense, no doubt. 723 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: And that's I think one of the exciting things is 724 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: that they were able to get a guy and perhaps 725 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: had he come out twenty twenty one, might not have 726 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: been available to the Cleveland Browns, probably would have been 727 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: off the board, maybe by their second round pick, and 728 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: they ended up trading out of that and now you're 729 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: able to get him. The one guy I want to 730 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 3: ask you about is Dewan Jones because I saw your 731 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: grade on him. I saw Lance Zerline, who whose opinion 732 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: I respect greatly when it comes to offensive line. You know, 733 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: he had a first or a second round grade on him, 734 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: And then I was reading a lot of comments. You know, 735 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: they didn't handle the draft process, well, can you kind 736 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: of walk us through what happened? And then in your mind, 737 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: what kind of a value did the Browns get? And 738 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: not only that, I would argue that Dwan Jones couldn't 739 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: land in a better spot to be here with Bill Callahan, 740 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: but how did it get to be that he was 741 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: available for the Browns where he was? And then do 742 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: you think the Browns kind of have a first story 743 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: second round picking this draft in Jones even though they 744 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: didn't technically have one. 745 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 6: I mean, d One Jones clearly has starting potential. There's 746 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 6: no doubt about that, six three hundred and seventy five pounds. 747 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 6: He watched his film this year and it really seemed 748 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 6: like he was turning a corner. You know, he's a 749 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 6: basketball guy most of his life, and it felt like 750 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 6: this year he was really accepting himself as a football player. 751 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 6: He does a really nice job eliminating space using his 752 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 6: hands and just blocking the access points for rushers with 753 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 6: that wide body of his the humongous wingspan. You know, 754 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 6: he's not a guy that has the quick reaction skills. 755 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 6: He's not going to be, you know, that type of 756 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: guy he's going to mirror in space, but once he 757 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 6: gets in position and gets his hands on you, it's over. 758 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 6: And then in the run game he could be a masher. 759 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 6: So but this is a young player. He's still just 760 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 6: twenty one years old. He won't turn twenty twenty two 761 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 6: until well in the training camp, and you know it's 762 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 6: with that there been some maybe decisions that he would 763 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 6: like back. Senior Bull spent one day in mobile, then 764 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 6: got a little banged up and decided to just hang 765 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 6: it up. The rest of the week, goes to the combine, 766 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 6: weighs in at three seventy four, which I think is 767 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: a good weight for him, you know, realistic weight for him. 768 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 6: Only does the forty yard dash and it's fine. 769 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 5: You know, he's good. 770 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 6: He has a good time for a guy that size, 771 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 6: but does nothing nothing else. Then the pro day he 772 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 6: does not weigh in, so you know you kind of worried, Okay, 773 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 6: is he close to four hundred now what is the 774 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 6: weight going on? The weight here? And then doesn't do 775 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 6: any drills. He doesn't do no weight, no workout, just 776 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 6: a choice. And so that didn't help him. And so 777 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 6: there are questions about motivation, questions about football passion. Is 778 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 6: this guy gonna absolutely do everything required to get all 779 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 6: the ability that he as and make the most of 780 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 6: what he of the talent. But I think your point 781 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 6: about coach Callahan is a key thing here. The Browns 782 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 6: would not have drafted Duan Jones if Coach Callahan does 783 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 6: not give the sign off, if he does not say, hey, 784 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 6: I think we can work with this kid and we 785 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 6: can really get the most out of him. So for 786 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 6: the Browns to make that move, I you know, I 787 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 6: thought Dwan Jones was going to fall. I mean, he 788 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 6: was breaked in the sixties on my board, you know. 789 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 6: I people telling me he was too low. I mean, 790 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 6: he was not going to go first round. I thought 791 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 6: maybe somewhere middle of day two made sense for him. 792 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 6: He falls all the way out of day two into 793 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 6: day three, and at that point it's just like, okay, 794 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 6: as long as our coaches are on board that he's 795 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 6: worked the risk, let's let's roll the dice and see 796 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 6: what we can have here. Obviously, the Browns don't have 797 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 6: a glaring need at tackle right now, so you don't 798 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 6: have to press him into action. Bring him along at 799 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 6: his own pace, and as he gets older, as he develops, 800 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 6: as he matures, this could end up out looking like 801 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 6: a steal, no doubt. 802 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: Dan. 803 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: I think if we can probably all agree that if 804 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 2: if one person on this list has to hit, it's 805 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: Siaki Eka. In terms of for next year, Yep, he's 806 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 2: got to go. It's a third round pick and it's 807 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 2: it is what it is, starts his career at LSU. 808 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: Does he have what is needed out of a Jim 809 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: Schwartz defense and required out of the defensive tackle position 810 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: to have an impact immediately? 811 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, especially part of a rotation. You know, I think 812 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 6: that you know, he's a light footed big man, three 813 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds, but you know he's light 814 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 6: footed for that size and coming from that Dave Randa 815 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 6: that at that hybrid scheme that he runs, he was 816 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 6: asked to do a lot of things in the middle, 817 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 6: you know, just taking on doubles, creating those you know, 818 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 6: twelve car pile ups in the middle of the line. 819 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 6: You know, he he was he has some disruptive qualities, 820 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 6: but you know he doesn't always get a chance to 821 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 6: show that. So I think it's part of a rotation, 822 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 6: keeping him fresh. You know, he's more than just a plugger. 823 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 6: He can be a guy that is really giving you 824 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 6: you know, shooting gaps and doing stuff in the backfield. Again, 825 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 6: this is another player where the weight will be important. 826 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 6: You know, he was three thirty five at the combine 827 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 6: and then you know a couple of weeks later at 828 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 6: the throw day he's three forty seven twelve pounds every year, 829 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 6: so it's important that the weight will stay under control. 830 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 6: And you know it's not a not something that you 831 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 6: know the team has to worry about, you know, mid season, 832 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 6: but you know he's a guy that will come in 833 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 6: be part of the rotation. And I think you know, 834 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 6: he go back to the twenty twenty one Bowl game 835 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 6: against Old Miss that that's what last summer watching Eka. 836 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: He was so disruptive in that game that that really 837 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 6: sold me on him. And he entered the year the 838 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 6: top fifty player on my board. And you know, this 839 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 6: year he didn't really maybe he didn't take that next step, 840 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 6: but this is a quality linement and they just don't. 841 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 6: It's a planet theory, you know, there's there's only so 842 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 6: many people on the planet that are six three, three 843 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 6: thirty five and have his feet, his strength, that move 844 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 6: like him. So to add him to the rotation, I 845 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 6: think it's very good use of a third round pick. 846 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: Staying on that defensive line tackle with of course Dane Brugler, 847 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 3: the expert from the Athletic and Dane, I've said it 848 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: on the show, I texted you this, but I'll say 849 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: it again. Get the Beast. I could not have done 850 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: what I did over the fourteen hours of radio that 851 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: we did covering the draft over the weekend without it. 852 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 3: It is such an invaluable resource that allowed me, even 853 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 3: in my question when I got to interview Eca, to 854 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: talk to him about, you know, what was it like 855 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: being the youngest of five siblings with three older brothers. 856 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: Did that make you? Did that kind of forge your 857 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 3: toughness early in your life? And he laughed at that 858 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: and said, yes, I would never have known that. Without 859 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 3: the Beast, you get every little possible detail you could 860 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 3: get in this guide. So I certainly thank you again 861 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 3: for that urge. Everybody, it comes with your subscription at 862 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: the Athletic. Go do it. You'll find out everything about 863 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 3: these guys on the Browns and any other player drafted 864 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: or even those not drafted that you cared to learn about. 865 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 3: Dane Isaamh MacGuire was one of the names that was 866 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 3: linked to the Browns. I feel like throughout this entire 867 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: process and brilliant of the ones that they drafted, that 868 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: was the one name consistently you saw Isaiah McGuire be 869 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: a possibility for the Browns. I think you may have 870 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 3: at one point had them taken him at ninety eight. 871 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: I've seen so many knocks I could be getting confused, 872 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 3: but he was certainly in the mix. Forum they d 873 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: up getting him at won twenty six. They're thrilled about it. 874 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 3: What did you see from him? And is he a 875 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: guy that in your mind can push you know, Alex 876 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: right as early as this rookie year. 877 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt. 878 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 6: I mean this is if the Browns drafted him at 879 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 6: seventy four, I don't think anybody would have batter an eye, 880 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 6: because you know, he was considered a potential top one 881 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 6: hundred player in this draft. Six four and a half 882 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 6: two hundred and sixty eight pounds, a fourth year senior, 883 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 6: but still just twenty one years old. I think he 884 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 6: checked a lot of the boxes that we know this 885 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 6: team looks for. He's a guy that, okay, you want 886 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 6: to throw or see the player who gave Robert Jones 887 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 6: who the Steelers traded up to in the first round. 888 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 6: You want to see who gave him the most trouble 889 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 6: throwing him Assouri Georgia game and you see Isaiah McGuire. 890 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 6: You see that speed off the edge, that speed, the power, 891 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 6: the heavy hands, being able to put Rogert Jones attack 892 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 6: his breastplate and put them on his heels and totally 893 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 6: disrupt what the quarterback was trying to do. Isaiah McGuire 894 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 6: could do that. He is a guy that has enough 895 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 6: speed that can challenge the edge. He has the strength 896 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 6: in his hands where he can create that power at contact. 897 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot to work with here. I 898 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 6: was surprised he was still on the board at one 899 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 6: twenty six for the Browns, but he fits perfectly with 900 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 6: this scheme and it's a great it's a great opportunity 901 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 6: to keep these guys fresh. So you know, obviously Miles 902 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 6: Garrett is your eighth of the staff, but your secondary guys, 903 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 6: your other rushers, as you try to, you know, build 904 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 6: around him, you know, make it a rotation, work these 905 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 6: guys in and out, keep them fresh, and just keep attacking, attacking, attacking. 906 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 6: Isaiah McGuire helps you do that. 907 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: Dan, let's uh let's do a little around the division. 908 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 2: How did everybody else do? I asked the question fearful 909 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 2: of the answer, because my hunches they all did pretty well. 910 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: What did you make of the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals drafts? 911 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 6: Steelers did great, you know, they the my top one hundred. 912 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 6: They drafted six players, which second or first behind the Browns, 913 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 6: and the Bears also drafted six as well. But to 914 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 6: trade up and get the left tackle on Broader Jones, 915 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 6: that that's a big thing for them. They haven't Dana 916 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 6: drafted a tackle in the first round in twenty five years. 917 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 6: It was well overdue. To be able to get Joey 918 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 6: Porter junior, obviously, you know, great story with his dad, 919 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 6: but you know he just started starting love a corner. 920 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 6: To get him in the second round. Then to get 921 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 6: Keanu Benton in the second round, I mean, just a 922 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 6: terrific uh one to two right there in the second. 923 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,439 Speaker 6: Then Darnel Washington, he fell all the way to ninety three. 924 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 6: Nick Herbig, the pass rusher slash linebacker from Wisconsin. That's 925 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 6: a good story. His older brother Nate. The Steelers signed 926 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 6: his off season, but they'll figure out a way to 927 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 6: use him in that three fourth game, seventh round, Corey 928 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 6: Trice Junior. He was a top one hundred player for me. 929 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 6: The knee injury forced him the fall a little bit, 930 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 6: but you know, if he's healthy, he can play. There's 931 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 6: a lot to work with there. You know, the Browns, 932 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 6: the Steelers, they were I think the top in terms 933 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 6: of return in the division. Browns would have been second, 934 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 6: and then I think the Bengals and Ravens fighting it 935 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 6: out for third. I like, what both teams did? 936 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 5: You know? 937 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 6: The Bengals, this was a draft for the future for them, 938 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 6: you know they I don't think they drafted a guy 939 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 6: that's gonna start this year. But you know, Miles Murphy 940 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 6: on the edge, I had him to the rotation. DJ 941 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 6: Turner the corner from Michigan, play inside outside. And then 942 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 6: on Day three, I think that the key pick for 943 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 6: them was Chase Brown, the running back from Illinois. Joe 944 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 6: with Joe Mixon, you know, that situation is kind of 945 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 6: up in the air a little bit. Chase Brown is 946 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 6: gonna be able to come in and give them a 947 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 6: more explosive, explosive Samaje p run. So we'll see plenty 948 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 6: of Chase Brown this year for the Bengals, and then 949 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 6: you know the Ravens. We talked about Dave Flowers and 950 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 6: what that needs to that offense, Trent and Simpson the linebacker, 951 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 6: super athletic, getting him as late as eighty six, I 952 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 6: thought without outstanding value. And then on day three, Kyu 953 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 6: Blue Kelly the corner from Stanford, Marcus Peters no longer there. 954 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 6: They have a need at corner to keep building up 955 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 6: that depth chart. Kelly is a guy that we will 956 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 6: see as a rookie play a pretty prominent role for 957 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 6: the Ravens. So I think all four teams did pretty 958 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 6: well for themselves, definitely got better. 959 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: You know, Nick Herbig, what do you see him being 960 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: in the NFL? And I'm going to just say based 961 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 3: on what I read about him in your report and 962 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 3: what I looked at his production, And maybe it's because 963 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: he also went to Wisconsin, but it sounded to me 964 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: like in college and with his size, he was kind 965 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: of like what Joe Shobert was in college. They go 966 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: around the same spot fourth round, but then Joe transitioned 967 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 3: to off ball. Do you think that's what Herbig has 968 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 3: to do with the Steelers or do you think he's 969 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 3: going to be a pass rusher at the Silvic cause 970 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: I remember Schobert. I'm pretty sure his last year nine 971 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 3: and a half sex and moved ten sex at Wisconsin, 972 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: which was similar numbers to her So I was just 973 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 3: wondering if there are any similarities there. 974 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 6: That is the question mark with Herbig. If if teams 975 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 6: had a better idea of what he was going to be, 976 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 6: he would have went in probably the second round. But 977 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 6: because there's positioned confusion there. 978 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 7: He's six two two forty. 979 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 6: So and he's very short arms, so can he really 980 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 6: play an edge rusher position? But he's never played off 981 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 6: ball before. You know, he's not a guy that's been 982 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 6: asked to drop and play on a steet, and so 983 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 6: there's a projection if you're going to be asking him 984 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 6: to do that. So the position confusion is why a 985 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 6: lot of teams were just kind of out on Nick Herbig. 986 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 6: But again to get him in the fourth round. I mean, 987 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 6: it's kind of like the discussion we were having with 988 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 6: you know, like a Dwan Jones or you know, the 989 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 6: flawed players, but you could see a pack where it's 990 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 6: working out. And for the Steelers with their scheme, uh, 991 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 6: you know, you kind of try them at different spots. 992 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 6: You let him rush the quarterback. You don't take that 993 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 6: away from because that's what he does best. But can 994 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 6: he do more than that that? That's kind of a 995 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 6: big question mark. But I think in the fourth round, 996 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 6: those are the dart throws that you take and see if. 997 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 7: It works out or not. 998 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: When you go back and kind of look at this 999 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 3: draft as you get ready to project forward, and you know, 1000 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: there's so much talk about the quarterbacks, and all of 1001 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 3: a sudden you see quarterbacks go boom one two for 1002 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson goes early, and I think that was a 1003 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 3: perfect landing spot for him. You know, is it one 1004 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: of those you know last year, does that just say 1005 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: that last year's quarterback class was just so bad that 1006 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 3: being the one that just had Kenny Pickett go in 1007 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 3: the first round, Leake Willis goes in the third? Was 1008 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: that almost kind of an anomaly? This was a good 1009 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 3: one and the next year's supposed to be great, right, 1010 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 3: so it could be. I mean, obviously even heavier at 1011 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 3: the top of you have the Cardinals getting their dream 1012 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 3: draft in that one. But what did this class versus 1013 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: the year before and then the year coming after. What 1014 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 3: did that kind of say to you about the quarterback 1015 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: position in general and how these picks were made. 1016 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, last year. 1017 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny. And leading up to the draft 1018 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 6: last year, texting you know, buddies around the league and 1019 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 6: like working on a final mock draft and asking, okay, 1020 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 6: where these quarterbacks going to go? They also the same thing. 1021 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 6: They're gonna go. They're gonna go. And they didn't. You know, 1022 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 6: teams trusted that. You know, they just weren't the caliber 1023 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 6: of quarterback they were looking for. Plus they advanced scout, 1024 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 6: they knew what was coming this year, so teams were 1025 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 6: willing to be patient. They waited on Bryce Young, C. J. 1026 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 7: Stroud. 1027 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 6: And you know it's interesting if if Will Levis goes 1028 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 6: for instead of Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson is the guy 1029 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 6: in that. 1030 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 7: Falls a little bit. You know. 1031 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 6: It's not a case of oh well, Seattle would have 1032 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 6: taken Richardson a five or out, Atlanta would have taken 1033 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 6: Richardson at eight. It was just there's only so many 1034 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 6: landing spots where teams are willing to draft first round 1035 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 6: quarterbacks this year. So Will Levis, unfortunately for him, was 1036 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 6: the odd man out. The Titans tried trading up with 1037 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 6: the with the Eagles, with the Chiefs into the first 1038 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 6: round to get them. Turns out they couldn't get a 1039 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 6: deal done, or they trade up in the second to 1040 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 6: get will Levis. But you know, the common theme is, 1041 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 6: or the common saying is next year's quarterback class is 1042 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 6: always better and does they get overused of course, but 1043 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 6: it was true last year. I think it's true this year. 1044 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 6: Next year's quarterback class with Caleb Williams at the top, 1045 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 6: Drake May has a lot of Justin Herbert to his game, 1046 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 6: Quinn Ewers has a special arm. It's just there's the 1047 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 6: mental development part of things. Does that catch up? JJ 1048 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 6: McCarthy from Michigan has all the talent and only intangibles 1049 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 6: in the world. Just can he be more consistent? And 1050 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 6: then there's a really intriguing group of senior quarterbacks, guys 1051 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 6: like Michael Pennix from Washington who just had a fantastic 1052 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 6: year after transfer from Indiana. Bo Nicks same thing in 1053 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 6: Oregon after he transferred from Auburn. So a lot of 1054 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 6: intriguing quarterbacks next year. And there's always guys that emerge. 1055 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 6: You know, I've already heard type for you know, George's 1056 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 6: quarterbacks who's coming in replacing Stets and Bennett and you know, 1057 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 6: so there's always guys that you know, maybe emerge throughout 1058 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 6: the process. But yeah, I have no doubt next year's 1059 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 6: quarterback class has a chance to be a special one. 1060 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: Dan, get you out of here on this one. And 1061 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: this is going to be my gift to you. This 1062 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 2: is gonna I just want. I'm gonna you heard it 1063 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 2: from me first. Okay, Number eighteen for Ohio State is good. 1064 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: So just just keep an eye on him. 1065 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 6: How do you pronounce his name again? 1066 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even want to say it out loud 1067 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: because I there's some family lineage. I just don't want 1068 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 2: to make too many people aware of him. Just he's secret. 1069 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 3: Keep an eye on eighteen and Scarlet and gray next year. 1070 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 3: I think they think he's gonna have to move him 1071 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 3: up in his next twenty twenty four mock. He's gonna 1072 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 3: have to move him up from where he had him 1073 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 3: in the first one, now that you've brought him to 1074 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 3: his attention. 1075 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you probably didn't even have him in your mock. 1076 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: I bet I haven't had a chance to fully go through. 1077 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: I guess as you had didn't have him in there. 1078 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 3: I didn't see him in picks three on, so three 1079 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 3: on he wasn't so he probably he wasn't in it. 1080 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 3: Probably missed hi. Probably Okay, all right, well now I 1081 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: gift to you now, you know, yeah sweet. 1082 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 6: Okay, oh no, thank you. I'm gonna turn him on 1083 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 6: right now because it sounds like a sleeper. 1084 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, buddy as always. 1085 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 6: All right, thanks guys, anytime. 1086 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 3: That's our good buddy, Dame Brooke. 1087 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 2: We were with the Athletic joining on the Twisted te Hotline, 1088 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: brought to you by Twisted Hardeed tea official sponsor Browns 1089 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: Keep it Twisted. Cleveland Second Hour coming up next, Z's 1090 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,479 Speaker 2: conversation with Dwan Jones. 1091 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 3: Among the things, A little what's poisl going to do 1092 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 3: this week? Who knows? Maybe we better tune in miss 1093 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 3: a little miss. 1094 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 2: A lot, a lot, a lot on the line for 1095 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 2: that kid. Every time he comes on here. It's always 1096 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 2: tight rope with a razor blade. Cleveland Browns Daily a 1097 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1098 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Back coming 1099 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1100 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily Here on 1101 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 2: a Tuesday edition broadcasting from the undisclosed location. We want 1102 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 2: to jump in h into the DeLorean head back to 1103 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 2: day three of the NFL Draft of the Browns Radio Network. 1104 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 2: Here is Ze and Gerrod with our new offensive lineman, 1105 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 2: the big tackle, big fanouse Bucky stand out, Dwan Jones. 1106 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 3: We welcome in now the fourth round pick. If you 1107 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: are Cleveland Brown's tackled Dewan Jones from the Ohio State University. Dewan, 1108 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 3: First of all, congratulations on making it to the National 1109 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 3: Football League and getting to start your career here in 1110 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 3: the great state of Ohio with the Cleveland Browns. What 1111 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 3: was it like for you when you got that call? 1112 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 7: You know, it was a life long dream, you know, 1113 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 7: just waiting to hear you know, whether what team it was, 1114 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 7: you know, it was just a blessed honestly, and the. 1115 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 3: One with that sire relief. 1116 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 8: Obviously you had to wait around a couple of days 1117 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 8: and I have to imagine that is a tough prospect. 1118 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 8: But once you did get that call that you know 1119 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 8: it was from the Browns, that you recognize the area 1120 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 8: code since you do live in Ohio. 1121 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I did you know? She said that member. 1122 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 7: You know where it's coming from. I got teenmateers, I 1123 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 7: got cooled teens from there that you know, it was 1124 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 7: I see to come in my eyes living up you know, 1125 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 7: my friends kind of new So it was great joy. 1126 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 3: So you get to stay in the state. But I 1127 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: think the bigger thing for you is you're gonna get 1128 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 3: an opportunity to work with Bill Callahan. What do you 1129 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 3: know about Bill Callahan? And obviously the history of the 1130 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 3: tackle position here with the Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas going 1131 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame this year, but Bill Callahan 1132 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 3: has considered one of the very best in this league. 1133 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 3: What do you know about him? And how excited are 1134 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 3: you to get an opportunity to kind of get molded 1135 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 3: by someone of his stature. 1136 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 7: You know, I just keep hearing he's one of the 1137 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 7: greatest of the game. You know, I'm very familiar to 1138 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 7: his game. You know, I watched a couple of his guys, 1139 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 7: like you said, Joe Thomas, Jed Jortin know he e tells, well, 1140 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 7: you know, he's somebody I watched and try to get better, 1141 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 7: you know. So you know, it is great having somebody 1142 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 7: as a great coach. Coach Callahan and the one. 1143 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 8: One of the things that really impresses me about your 1144 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 8: game and what you did in the collegiate rings is 1145 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 8: that you weren't about giving up sex. And each week 1146 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 8: there's a pressure that comes along with that. So a man, 1147 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 8: what was it about your preparation? How'd you get to 1148 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 8: a place where you were so successful with your pass protection? 1149 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 7: You know, I'm just trying to find the weakenses of 1150 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 7: the game before either starts, you know, the defense kind 1151 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 7: of tilts of certain things, you know, maybe the need 1152 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 7: or something like that, you know, try to take away keys, 1153 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 7: you know, but just watching film and repvent our every 1154 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 7: day at practice. It don't get better than that. 1155 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 3: When you look at this offense and we're evolving and 1156 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 3: it's going to be different offense obviously with Sean Watson, 1157 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 3: but still a lot of zone principles, a lot of 1158 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: movement skills. You played hoops, your nimble on your feet. 1159 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 3: Is that something that you are excited about, that opportunity 1160 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 3: to showcase your athleticism in this type of an offense. 1161 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you know our offense, I stay is kind 1162 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 7: of similar to the one the Browns. You know, we'll 1163 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 7: watch them of theirs and so it's going to be 1164 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 7: interesting to see, you know how working to the offense and. 1165 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 3: You saw our amountain of a man and certainly excited 1166 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 3: to see you get in here and get to work. 1167 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 3: Has there been any discussions on you know, what do 1168 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: you feel like your ideal playing weight is and if 1169 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 3: the Browns discussed that with you at all. 1170 00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 7: I think I probably play at three sixty for sure 1171 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 7: during the season. You know, that's a good healthy way 1172 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 7: for me. You know, maybe the latter, but you know 1173 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 7: that's where I play at normally during the season and 1174 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 7: not feel healthy. 1175 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 8: And far as run protection and run blocking. In that regard, 1176 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 8: you foresee yourself or you buld yourself as a grazer 1177 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 8: guy who wants to just mow down people. Take that 1178 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 8: physical approach because we do a lot of movement in 1179 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 8: this office, and how does that fit your skill set? 1180 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 7: I think it's a lot. You know, if you go 1181 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 7: turn to take you know, you see me balling guys 1182 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 7: and I just like to get my feet running. You know, 1183 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 7: they kind of run the same, simmit. Like I said, 1184 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 7: our offers a state you know, a lot of zone blocking, 1185 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 7: you know, so it kind of just far seat going. 1186 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 7: You know, it's like it's good for me. 1187 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 3: What do you want to improve upon from a technique standpoint? 1188 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 3: If anything? Obviously you have the size, you have the strength, 1189 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 3: you have the length, that unbelievable wingspan, and in this game, 1190 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 3: at this level, the evolution is right becoming a technique master. 1191 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 3: Joe Thomas is going to go in the Hall of 1192 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 3: Fame now because it was the biggest, the longest, the strongest, 1193 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 3: any of it. He was just a master of technique. 1194 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 3: And he's somebody that's going to be a resource for you. 1195 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 3: He's going to be around here quite a bit and 1196 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 3: you're gonna get to pick his brain, which I think 1197 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 3: is a pretty cool thing for the young lineman to 1198 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 3: come in here. But when you kind of evaluate your 1199 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 3: own game, where do you see areas that you want 1200 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 3: to improve? 1201 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 7: I don't always say, you know, I'm kind of use 1202 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 7: my link to my shurance, you know, I kind of 1203 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 7: start to waste bands sometimes and I think that's the 1204 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 7: linked I always want to work on, you know, just 1205 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 7: using my my link to my my get with a building, 1206 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 7: you know, just making sure the pressure can't get around 1207 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 7: the edge, you know, just reaching out to really you know, 1208 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 7: just making sure I do my job's sure. 1209 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious. I'm a man who loves food. I love 1210 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 3: to eat a great deal. I am significantly smaller than you, sir, 1211 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 3: I'm about six four to ten. What give me to 1212 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 3: walk me through your daily caloric intake? What do you 1213 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 3: get to eat? What do you love to eat? How 1214 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 3: does that go? Because on some level, right you're trying 1215 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: to maintain as well, I would imagine your size for. 1216 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 7: Those parts I just eat. Sailers have to cut back 1217 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 7: your stuff, you know, silas, you know, have to turn 1218 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 7: barriers into turkey barriers, so you know a lot of 1219 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 7: more stamon and you know, good good, good nutrition. 1220 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 3: In our body, keeping it leaning on the scene. 1221 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 8: I like it because I was hoping you'll say a 1222 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 8: steak or two, but hey, sorry, that's all right. 1223 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 7: Those steaks from me. 1224 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 3: He's keeping those lean proteins in there Welldwan, certainly, congratulations 1225 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 3: on your dream coming true. I am very excited to 1226 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 3: get to see you again, to meet you and then 1227 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: to watch you get to work because you're going to 1228 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 3: have one of those very unique experiences in the Roocky 1229 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 3: Mini Camp where you're going to get to go basically 1230 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: one on one instruction with Bill Callahan and then also 1231 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: with Scott Peters, who is an incredible technician and understands 1232 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 3: so much about functional strength. So it's going to be 1233 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: exciting to see you start to get molded into becoming 1234 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 3: a Cleveland Brown and unbelievable skill set that is undeniable 1235 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 3: with your size, and sir, we are very proud of 1236 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 3: you and very happy to have you here. 1237 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, thanks you. 1238 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. Man. There's a that's that'll 1239 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: be if We've talked a lot about big Thanos and 1240 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 3: I think as you see the upside of it all, 1241 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 3: and the upside is quite large. I'm excited just to 1242 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 3: meet him in person. I'm excited to gaze up. You 1243 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: don't see much four hundred ish as an athlete, as 1244 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: an athlete who is an elite like basketball player, you know, 1245 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 3: you don't see that much. Yeah, he's he's a giant 1246 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 3: tractor trailer. He's your starting center now on the basketball team. 1247 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 3: You know they're putting a basketball team. He's the he's 1248 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 3: the big and it's solved. I mean, it really changes 1249 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 3: that kind of the makeup of the team. I mean, 1250 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 3: you've got him, but Tonio was a force. J Okay 1251 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 3: j Okay I think you play ds Andre Gouda mean, 1252 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 3: he obviously is very productive, but as shooting, we need 1253 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: some work. As we saw him, we get it behind 1254 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 3: the scenes. Yeah, that's true. We definitely need miles, miles. Obviously, 1255 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 3: we got to get some shooters. I mean, you and 1256 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 3: I could play. I know, put Rich the count back 1257 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: on the ninety, just for the hoops, just for the hoops, 1258 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 3: the count fotball. He could ball a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 1259 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 3: you might not. You might not be needed anymore with 1260 00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 3: all this size we have. There was a time you 1261 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,479 Speaker 3: were standard. I'm happy to coach. Gosh, be great. Would 1262 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 3: you wear a full suit like Riley style? That'd be amazing. 1263 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 3: Can I do of course for a basketball game? Can 1264 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 3: I break out a Fedora? 1265 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, of course you can do that. It's 1266 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 2: your world, all right. Coming up next, we'll take a 1267 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 2: look around the AFC North. We get a little teaser 1268 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: with that with Dane and unfortunately everybody get a lot better. 1269 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 2: This division is an absolute monster. We'll get into that 1270 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 2: coming up next. 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Barking Backers the 1279 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 2: fan club for dogs. 1280 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 3: We tease this. 1281 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Talked about this briefly with Dane. Here's the here's a 1282 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 2: reader's digest version. The entire AFC North is better. They're 1283 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:18,919 Speaker 2: all better. 1284 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the draft is an opportunity, at least 1285 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 3: on paper right to get better. And I think that's 1286 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 3: what we saw, certainly in our division. They seem to 1287 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: get better. It's pretty incredible, you know, just from the 1288 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 3: stealers standpoint. Right. Let me just give one example, because 1289 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 3: I thought Daniel Jerremin did a pretty good job in 1290 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 3: his Mochi nail the Stroud Anderson. He made that trade. 1291 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 3: He didn't get everything right, obviously, but he did a 1292 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 3: pretty good job. One of the things that's crazy looking 1293 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 3: back on it is he had Jalen Carter going five, 1294 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Nolan Smith going ten to the Eagles. The Eagles end 1295 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 3: up with both of them. Talking about our division, he 1296 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 3: had Za Flowers going eleven, he goes to Baltimore. Roderick 1297 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Jones the tackle. He nailed that going to the Steelers 1298 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 3: at seventeen in his original mock. Yep, then you go 1299 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 3: down a little bit further and this is one that 1300 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 3: hurts me. He had Keanu Benton going twenty eighth to 1301 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 3: the Bengals. Kenu Benton goes to the Steelers in the 1302 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 3: second round. He had Miles Murphy go twenty nine the Saints. 1303 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 3: He actually went to the Bengals at twenty eight, so 1304 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 3: he was pretty well on it, and it did feel 1305 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 3: like in many ways, Yeah, it was a very good 1306 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 3: division draft for our division. I thought the Steelers especially 1307 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 3: had an excellent draft and did a good job of 1308 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 3: really kind of maximizing, you know, the talent to them. 1309 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 3: We'll go alphabetically though, real quickly, the Ravens, Zay, Flowers, Trent, 1310 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 3: and Simpson. That allows them succession plan for Patrick Queen, 1311 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 3: which we saw they said they're not going to go 1312 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 3: ahead and you know, renew his pick up his fifth 1313 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 3: year option. Tavius Robinson an edge from Mississippi Stanford. The corner. 1314 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 3: And this is the guy who got a shout out 1315 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 3: from from Dane Cayu Blue Kelly at one fifty seven Bengals. 1316 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 3: Theirs isn't maybe as in pre but still not bad. 1317 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 3: Miles Murphy, DJ Turner, Jordan Battles, They go defense, defense, defense. 1318 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 3: You probably know more about Charlie Jones and Chase Brown 1319 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 3: than I do. But Charlie Jones seems to be somebody 1320 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: maybe that in the long term can replace Tyler Boyd 1321 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 3: when they're unable to pay three receivers in the slot. 1322 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 3: And then Chase Brown, I know, is very productive at Iowa. 1323 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 3: But the steel Chase Brown was Illinois, right, Illinois. That's it, 1324 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 3: Yes he was. 1325 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: He was. 1326 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: Brett Bielima, the coach in Illinois, rode him like seabiscuit, 1327 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 2: got it like it was thirty six carries for one 1328 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two yards. 1329 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 3: Yep, that's what that dude was. So yeah, he was 1330 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 3: when they had a really nice season last year and 1331 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: a lot of it was on his on his wheels. 1332 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 3: The Steelers get Broder Jones, most people's top tackle, and 1333 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 3: draft they get Joey Porter Junior, who a lot of 1334 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 3: people thought they might draft at seventeen. They get Keanu Benton, 1335 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 3: who we just saw Janiel Daniel Jeremi I thought would 1336 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 3: go in the first round that we talked a lot 1337 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 3: about to the Browns out of Wisconsin, which was obviously 1338 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 3: folly that he would be there for us. Darnell Washington, 1339 01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 3: the tight end out of Georgia that people thought might 1340 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 3: go in first or second round. They get him at 1341 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 3: pick ninety three. Other medical concerns with him, and he's 1342 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 3: really more of an inline y tight end than really 1343 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 3: a pass catcher. They get her big and then Corey 1344 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 3: Trice out of Purdue with somebody that Dane mentioned as 1345 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 3: a good player as well. So yeah, everybody in the 1346 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 3: division did get better. And if you look at really 1347 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 3: because it happened on Draft Day, which seems like five 1348 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 3: years ago, but that's when the Lamar Jackson deal got done. 1349 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Great string there, I would say for the Baltimore Ravens, 1350 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 3: I think that the Browns we got better as well, 1351 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 3: since we didn't have you know, didn't have a Day 1352 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 3: one pick or even in the second round. I thought 1353 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 3: the Browns made themselves better. But a lot of ours 1354 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 3: is much like Sincey where you know, you see Siaki 1355 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Eka and you say he can make an immediate impact. 1356 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 3: You know, maybe Isaiah Maguire does, maybe Tillman does this year, 1357 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 3: but long term, you have a bunch of guys that 1358 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 3: you're hoping that can contribute. Now, what's wild to me 1359 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 3: is I would have never thought there was room for 1360 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 3: seven guys on this team, and maybe there isn't. But 1361 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some real competition to make this football 1362 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 3: team to I think further buttress the point I was 1363 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 3: looking at, you know wind totals yep. For next year. 1364 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 2: Our division, the lowest win total is eight and a half. Yeah, 1365 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 2: so Pittsburgh's eight and a half. We vacillate between eight 1366 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 2: and a half and nine and a half. So does 1367 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Baltimore eight and a half and nine and a half. 1368 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 2: And Cincinnati is eleven and a half. 1369 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 3: Jeez, So I think it's gonna be hard for that 1370 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 3: to go twelve and five. I think they're very good. 1371 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 3: I just think our division is very good. 1372 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean that just tells you there's no other division 1373 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 2: though that has that. The only one that's close is 1374 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 2: the AFC East. Yeah, but the the the Pats are 1375 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 2: seven and seven and seven and a half. Everybody else, 1376 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 2: every other division at least has one that's hanging out 1377 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 2: that's six and a half or whatever. You know, like 1378 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: you don't have every team expected to be above five hundred. 1379 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 3: That just doesn't. It's just there's no other division like it. 1380 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 3: So it's just it's absolutely brutal. It's wild. Yeah, it 1381 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 3: is brutal. And then it's gonna be just the whole 1382 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 3: season in general is going to be a murderer's row, 1383 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, and you look at our division, and you 1384 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 3: know the schedule release you mentioned coming up here in 1385 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 3: under ten days, it's it is going to be very 1386 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: very interesting to see ultimately how all of this stuff 1387 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 3: plays out with the matchups with you know, everybody that 1388 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 3: you have to deal with. It's gonna be hard. Well, 1389 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 3: if a team goes four and two in the division, 1390 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,959 Speaker 3: that will be I think a great accomplishment, no doubt. 1391 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 2: I think the reason that another contributing factor to those 1392 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 2: numbers that I mentioned is the cross division pollination. Sure, 1393 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 2: so it's we're matched up AFC South, NFC West, So 1394 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 2: that's where you get I mean, all of a sudden, 1395 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 2: like we're all gonna play Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indy, and Houston. 1396 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 3: So that's every team in our. 1397 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 2: Division should go three and one in that stretch, yeah, 1398 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 2: you would think. And then we're all going to play 1399 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 2: the NF West. So that's Rams, Seahawks, Cards, and Niners. 1400 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 2: Obviously the Seahawks and nine. The Niners are a full 1401 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 2: day Seahawks are very very competitive, but the Rams and 1402 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: the car who knows what the Rams are gonna end 1403 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 2: up being, and the Cardinals are gonna be one of 1404 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 2: the worst teams. 1405 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 3: So there's for a good team, there's a chance to 1406 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 3: go six and two there. Five and three feels like 1407 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 3: where you need to be in there, and the chance 1408 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 3: to be better than that. Yeah, because your own division 1409 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 3: is going to be three and three will be just fine. 1410 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you go three and three in the division, 1411 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 3: you'll feel good about that. And then it's a matter 1412 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 3: of what you can pick up on the random games, right, 1413 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 3: which is. 1414 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 2: Well to further your point on the Bengals, because you 1415 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 2: were talking about, you know, hard to image them getting 1416 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 2: to twelve. They play Kansas City, they play Buffalo, they 1417 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: play the Vikings. 1418 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 3: Those are their Kansas City, Buffalo and Vikings are matchups 1419 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 3: for those same three are the Broncos, who are no slouch. 1420 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,439 Speaker 3: The Jets, a little bit unlucky there. 1421 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 2: And then we get the Bears, Okay, who a lot 1422 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 2: of people think is one of the most improved teams, 1423 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 2: but we should be yeah right, yeah, but that's. 1424 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 3: Boy, that's unlucky on Rogers. Even if you take in 1425 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 3: our division, we come out, we play well. Let's say 1426 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 3: that we're favored in three of our division games. Okay, three, 1427 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 3: which is maybe it's it should be around that. Yeah, 1428 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 3: we'll be favored over the Bears. We get the Jags here, 1429 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 3: which I think is helpful, probably a slight favorite, Jets here, 1430 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 3: I don't know, Niners here, not sure, Titans here, will 1431 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 3: be favored away. We'll be favored at the Texans and 1432 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 3: the Colts and the Rams is my guess, not at 1433 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 3: the Seahawks or the Broncos. So we'll be favored in 1434 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: more games than I think we won't be. And then 1435 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 3: as depending how the season progresses and how we play, 1436 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 3: you know, that'll shake that out even further. 1437 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just for some perspective, Baltimore's cross division games are 1438 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 2: the Lions. They have the Lions, the Chargers, Chargers who 1439 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 2: am I missing mergers and then the Dolphins Dolphins, So 1440 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 2: depending on I mean that's pretty brutal with the two 1441 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 2: AFC teams, and then Detroit's an up and comer. 1442 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and Pittsburgh. You know, Pittsburgh will probably the 1443 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 3: easiest path of the four of us. So Pittsburgh in 1444 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 3: those games will get the Patriots, Packers, the Packers. Well, 1445 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 3: did the Packers finish last in the division? They must 1446 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 3: have no, the Lion, the Bears, did the Bears? All right, 1447 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 3: we get the Bears? Ye, yeah, so they get the Packers, Patrick, Patriots, 1448 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,560 Speaker 3: and the Raiders. So they get the easiest of the 1449 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 3: three by far. So that's where you stand on that. Yeah, 1450 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 3: we got a little unlucky with last place versus third. 1451 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 2: No kidding, you don't say, I do say yeah, yeah, 1452 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: that Jets seems a little different. Well yeah, then then 1453 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 2: they then they the team that ended last season, to 1454 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 2: say the least. 1455 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,799 Speaker 3: Not that we handled the Patriots last year or the Jets, 1456 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 3: No we did not for that matter. But no, yeah, 1457 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 3: that's that's a little bit of a different assignment. We'll 1458 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 3: play a little better worse. Coming up next to you'll say, 1459 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 3: to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by Bally Bet Coming 1460 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 3: soon to Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1461 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming 1462 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1463 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into the undisclosed location Cleveland Brown's Daily. 1464 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 2: Here on a fifty ESPN, Cleveland. It is a Tuesday, 1465 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: it is two thirty. It's time for a little better 1466 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 2: or worse, and we do so via the Twisted Tea Hotline, 1467 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 2: brought to you by Twisty hardeesed T, official sponsor for 1468 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted. Cleveland ap joins us for 1469 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 2: a little higher, lower, better, Worse, presented by our friends 1470 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 2: at the Ohio Lottery. O. Hi, Hello, Gibbe, Hello AP. 1471 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 5: Hello, Hi gentlemen, happy to join the fireside chat. 1472 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 3: Where are you, AP? Are you? Are you at an 1473 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 3: undisclosed location? Are you at the stadium? 1474 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,799 Speaker 5: I am at my apartment. 1475 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 3: You're an undersos location. He'll get it. He's got to 1476 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 3: be at the stadium tomorrow. 1477 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 4: Any of the stadium people had to work from home 1478 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 4: the last couple of days while we moved all the 1479 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 4: furniture to the stadium and set everything up. 1480 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 3: So we will see AP just walking around. 1481 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, once we started having availability here in 1482 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks rookie mini camp. 1483 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 5: Yeah absolutely, Okay, yeah, I'll be back in the building 1484 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 5: for all that, all the good stuff. 1485 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 3: You can share the trailer with Yellowstone. There's a trailer. 1486 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Did you get an airstream? What did you get? No, 1487 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 3: it's it's not really an airstream. Not an airstream. Okay, 1488 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 3: put it in sweet though, right. 1489 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 2: If you had an airstream, maybe make a little patio. 1490 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 2: Some of those lights that people hang around there. Yeah, 1491 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 2: I love those lights. I got to berg who doesn't 1492 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 2: love those lights. They're undefeated. They set a mood, they 1493 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 2: set a mood. My wise, it's been trying to get 1494 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 2: me to hang lights. I said, there's no place to 1495 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 2: hang lights. Oh, we've got Beestro lights over. 1496 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 3: Of course, they're undefeated. It sets a tone. There's a 1497 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 3: mood you don't have anywhere in that compound of years, 1498 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 3: not where there's like a post. I mean you gotta 1499 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 3: have a post, right, don't you. We take ours off 1500 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 3: of upper balcony, downed it out to trees and then 1501 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 3: back up and then it's a beautiful thing. I don't 1502 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 3: have anything that they inflect off of the water as 1503 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 3: you drive in. See, it's a tone man. 1504 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, a little bit of news by the way, okay, 1505 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 4: and it's not really like big news or anything like that, 1506 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 4: but it's kind of fun, kind of cool to Marcus 1507 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 4: where we'll sing the national anthem at the Hall of 1508 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 4: Fame preseason game in Canton this year. 1509 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 3: There you go, is he going? Is he one of 1510 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 3: the guys going in? Yeah? Yeah, he's in this year's class, 1511 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 3: certainly singing the national Surprised they don't have the Hoff 1512 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 3: unleash his pipes? What can't the Hof do? And then 1513 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 3: be heard by us yesterday? Yesterday? That's a six minutes 1514 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 3: of the show, right, But other than that, did you 1515 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 3: like that when I send it to you? Oh, I 1516 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 3: was dying, dying, and then it was terrified. We're all 1517 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 3: very lucky, but it was it was no, I was dying, 1518 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 3: like and. 1519 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 2: I just the idea of us like continuing on a 1520 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 2: convert like welcoming the haff, having him give a gracious answer, 1521 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 2: and then you just interrupting him with your own impression 1522 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,759 Speaker 2: of him, and then him just stepping out and laughing 1523 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 2: at it, and then just us having a conversation for 1524 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 2: six minutes while he sat there. 1525 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:49,560 Speaker 3: It's unreal it's unreal, unreal. Yeah, it's a Monday. We 1526 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 3: haven't heard from you yet. What do you think of 1527 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 3: the draft? 1528 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? I really liked what they did with their first 1529 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 5: two picks. I think it's pretty telling that they took 1530 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 5: Cedric Tillman, you know, a wider, which was a position 1531 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 5: that was always on the table for you know, their 1532 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 5: first pick in that third round at seventy four overall, 1533 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 5: but it wasn't necessarily their top need. But I think 1534 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 5: it just speaks to how highly they thought of Cedric 1535 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 5: Tillman that they still still took him in that spot. 1536 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 5: And then obviously they they were able to fill you know, 1537 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,879 Speaker 5: that that need at defensive tackle that we've been talking about. 1538 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 3: All off season. 1539 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 5: Still with Siaki, what he's able to do when he 1540 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 5: gets in the building. But obviously, you know, what we 1541 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 5: know about him now is that he's a very very 1542 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 5: big human being, just like a lot of the other 1543 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 5: guys in the draft class, and uh, you know, he's 1544 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 5: going to have a chance to possibly, you know, get 1545 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 5: a get a. 1546 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 3: Pretty sizeable role here in his rookie year. 1547 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 5: So and I like what they did with the rest 1548 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,759 Speaker 5: their picks too, you know, patching up other depth spots 1549 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 5: on the roster. I like it. I think I think 1550 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 5: we'll see you know, a couple of a good display 1551 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 5: this year from one or two of those guys in 1552 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 5: that draft class. 1553 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 3: Do you agree with most of the consensus? And I 1554 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 3: realized that it's too early to give draft grades, but 1555 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 3: do you agree with most of the consensus thought out 1556 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 3: there that we outdrafted the Jack and Bill Jaguars. 1557 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,440 Speaker 5: The Jaguars? 1558 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 3: Uh kidding? 1559 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 5: I gotta refresh my memory on on who the gagards? 1560 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 3: Is that a joker? You don't worry about the pois 1561 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 3: walk away walking away? Yes we did, Yes we did. 1562 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 3: Let's go moving on power rankings? 1563 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:22,479 Speaker 5: Are you only saying that because of no, no, just. 1564 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 3: Go back undisclosed? We gotta be quick stay with that. 1565 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 3: To be quick, as my dad would say, Doc, it's 1566 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:28,679 Speaker 3: coming back. 1567 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 4: Let's go higher, go save the compliments of the thirty 1568 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 4: third team. So the thirty third team seriously is the girl? 1569 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 1: Uh? 1570 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,839 Speaker 4: Featuring NFL content from current and former players, coaches, and execs. 1571 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I believe the hoffest part of this group too, he 1572 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 3: is uh, Paul you got it? Dmo Witch? Sure, Dumbo Witch? Yeah? 1573 01:15:59,800 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Uh? 1574 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 4: His post draft power rankings yep, so we'll go higher, lower, 1575 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,759 Speaker 4: or just right. Paul has hit it higher or lower. 1576 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns come in at number twenty post draft 1577 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 4: Zigura higher, lower or just right. 1578 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is laughable. Man. We're better than this, 1579 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 3: but we've got to earn it. So I stop it. 1580 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm fine with you. Better stop it. Yeah, why you're 1581 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 3: telling me Bryce Young? No, I think it's absurd. I said, 1582 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm sixteen. The first thing I said is we're way 1583 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 3: better than that Young. Yeah, we are better. 1584 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Carolina team is four teams better than us. No, you're 1585 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 2: telling me they're ahead of the Dolphins in Love. 1586 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 3: No, we're not the Packers. We're better than the second. 1587 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 3: We're better than we should be. 1588 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 2: Like, I'm on, I'm a I'm all for proving it, 1589 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 2: earning it. I think some people like to see it. 1590 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 2: You want to move you see the show me state 1591 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 2: that's crazy, Surrey. But I think Gibb, I mean, come on, 1592 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 2: there's got to be some Yes, we're in the top 1593 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 2: half of the league. Like, this is ridiculous. You were 1594 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 2: better the Vikings, right, so put us fifteen. Fine, sixteen, 1595 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't care, but you cannot have us behind Carolina 1596 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 2: Green Bay. 1597 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 3: The Saints or the Vikings or the Viking that's ridiculous. Agreed, 1598 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 3: Broncos are way too low. 1599 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 4: To the next higher or lower number one in the 1600 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 4: post ramp power rankings the Philadelphia Eagles Anthony poise Ol higher, 1601 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 4: lower or just right. 1602 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I still think they belong at two 1603 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 5: behind the Chiefs. But I will say that they had 1604 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 5: an awesome draft class, and you know, they often made 1605 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 5: a great move by getting den Jay Slid from the Lions. 1606 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 5: I think they have a really good backfield now, especially 1607 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 5: if Rashad Penny can stay healthy. You know, I can 1608 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 5: see why you would rank them at number one because 1609 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,680 Speaker 5: they filled all the holes that they possibly could have 1610 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 5: had on their roster based on the players that they 1611 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 5: lost in free agency. But you know, the Chiefs are 1612 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,439 Speaker 5: still the Super Bowl champs here and until we start 1613 01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,760 Speaker 5: seeing the games again, I think they belong at one. 1614 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 3: Zigura Rick Flair, Baby, to be the man, you gotta 1615 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 3: beat the man. They face the Chiefs in the in 1616 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, the Chiefs won. They're the gold standard. 1617 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 3: They are number two in my mind the Eagles, and yes, 1618 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 3: I can understand why on paper you'd say they're number one, 1619 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 3: But the Chiefs just get it done always. 1620 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 2: It can be both that the Chiefs should still be 1621 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 2: one and also that Philly who was great, dramatically improved, Yes, 1622 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 2: like the Kansas City did not have this offseason. 1623 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 3: No, so how good you know the rest of the league, 1624 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean they are. That was my thesis yesterday. And 1625 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 3: then now everybody, according to Peter Straker, everybody's mad that 1626 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 3: everybody's praising Howie Rosamond, well tough. Let him do that, yeah, 1627 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 3: don't don't. Don't let him get Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, 1628 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 3: and don't let him get DeAndre Soft for a can 1629 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 3: of balls. That's right next a high lower. 1630 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 4: The Chiefs are number two in this power ranking, the 1631 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Bengals number three, the Buffet Little Bills at number four, 1632 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,640 Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers five, the Jags six, and it 1633 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 4: takes us to number seven, both Bishop, the Detroit. 1634 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 3: Lions higher lower or just right, mister Bishop, it's they're lower. 1635 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 3: They're not there yet. They're not better than Dallas right now. 1636 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,680 Speaker 3: They're not better than the Jets right now. They're not 1637 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 3: better than the Ravens right now. But the Jets I 1638 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 3: would not take them over the Chargers right now. They 1639 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 3: are a nice little story, but again, show me bois l. 1640 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Bo. I mean, I think at 1641 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 5: some point over the next year, well, we could have 1642 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,560 Speaker 5: them as high as seven on this list, but we 1643 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 5: still got to see them beat some of the teams 1644 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 5: that Bo has talked about on this list, or at 1645 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 5: least teams that are in that range on these power rankings. 1646 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 5: You know, they obviously we talked about it so many times. 1647 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 5: They finished last season incredibly strong. I think they're going 1648 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 5: to have just as talented, if not better, roster this year, 1649 01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 5: but again we got to see it. 1650 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I like the Jags too, I'm a big 1651 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 3: Jags guy, but six that feels aggressive. The Lions at 1652 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 3: seven feels aggressive. I mean, I almost think that you 1653 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 3: got to put the Jets in. The Ravens and the 1654 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 3: Chargers and the Seahawks need to go way up from 1655 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 3: where they currently are. That's too high. And I think 1656 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 3: the Lions had an opportunity to really improve coming out 1657 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,440 Speaker 3: of this draft, and I don't think that they necessarily 1658 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 3: took advantage of it. Next James Cory lower James and 1659 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 3: Wims suspension I think hurts them all down. Six games 1660 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 3: Man six a big deal. Cowboys eight. 1661 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 4: As mister Bishop mentioned the New York Football Giants at 1662 01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,799 Speaker 4: number ten, Zigura takes us to the New York Football 1663 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,799 Speaker 4: Jets and their quarterback, officially Aaron Rodgers. 1664 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,640 Speaker 3: Higher, lower or just right. For the Football Jets, I 1665 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 3: mean i'd put them, I'd put them in the top eight. 1666 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 3: So I think they are better than this. And my 1667 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,960 Speaker 3: rationale for it is simply this last year, if the 1668 01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 3: Jets often scored exactly twenty one points every game, I 1669 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 3: think they would have been eleven to five and one. 1670 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 3: If they scored twenty four points every game, they would 1671 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 3: have been fourteen and three. Yeah, their deed didn't get 1672 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 3: any worse. No, their offense, in my opinion, got significantly better. 1673 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 3: That's right. So I think they're pretty formidable. I think 1674 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,680 Speaker 3: they are. They are a very word of the adversary. 1675 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 3: And right now, if you said, you know you've got 1676 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 3: to go Jets against Jags, Jets against Lions, I'm taking 1677 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 3: the Jets in both of those games. Bishop. 1678 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 2: So they basically last year, their poop poop platter of 1679 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,839 Speaker 2: quarterbacks ended up with about sixty percent completions basically touchdown 1680 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 2: interception of of one to one or thereabouts. Yeah, So 1681 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 2: Rogers last year, in what is considered a down, down, 1682 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,719 Speaker 2: down year for him, was sixty five percent completions thirty 1683 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 2: seven hundred yards twenty six and twelve with the rating 1684 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 2: of ninety one. There they're They're total accumulated rating last 1685 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 2: year for their guys was around seventy. So if he 1686 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 2: just is what he was last year, which wasn't great 1687 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: by his standard. 1688 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 3: Number two years ago. Now you got Garrett Wilson, Oh 1689 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 3: my god, Nicole Hardman, You've got Corey Davis. Still they 1690 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 3: bring in lazards. Still there and they two years ago, 1691 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 3: another good running two years. 1692 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 2: Ago he's seventy forty one, thirty seven and four one 1693 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 2: to eleven point nine rates thirty seven and four. Yeah, no, 1694 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 2: I think that's nine to one. I think they are 1695 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,440 Speaker 2: criminally underrated on this. Yes, I think they are absolutely 1696 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl contender. I think you could put him 1697 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 2: all the way up at six. 1698 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 3: That's what I think. Quite frankly, I think they should 1699 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 3: put him at five right now. You could, you could 1700 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 3: put them behind. 1701 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 2: To me, I'd have him the fourth best team in 1702 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 2: the AFC, behind Kansas City, Cincinnati and Buffalo. I think 1703 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 2: that the fans they might be better than Buffalo. 1704 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 3: The fact that this these rankings have four teams in 1705 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 3: the NFC in the top eight is crazy to That's nonsense. 1706 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 3: Next higher core lower. 1707 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 4: The rat Birds are number eleven, the Chargers twelve, and 1708 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 4: it takes us to number thirteen, and the Pukers bishop 1709 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 4: higher lower or just right. They had a great draft, 1710 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 4: They had a great draft, but they are they. 1711 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 3: Are tied to Kenny Pickett. Yeah, and I know some 1712 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 3: this isn't anything personal. 1713 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 2: I just think in a in a conference where you 1714 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 2: have elite quarterback play everywhere, he is not elite. He 1715 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 2: is not an elevator of your football team. He is 1716 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 2: an enabler at best. How you can have them ahead 1717 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 2: of other teams, including US, frankly, who have elevators at 1718 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,040 Speaker 2: quarterback is a tough self to me. I think Pittsburgh 1719 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 2: has got to come back. Not a whole lot, there's 1720 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 2: still really I mean, they are a playoff team last years. 1721 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 2: You can't discribe them too much, but they should be 1722 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:42,640 Speaker 2: somewhere around sixteen something like that. 1723 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 3: They got to come down a little. Totally agree, I 1724 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 3: totally agree. I mean I think that I like us 1725 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 3: better than Steelers. We've got to prove it. I like 1726 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 3: the Dolphins better than the Steelers. I like the Seahawks 1727 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,639 Speaker 3: better than the Steelers. I think the Broncos this year 1728 01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,759 Speaker 3: are going to be significantly improved. Yeah, mems to Judy 1729 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 3: and Sutton with Russ, I think Sean Payton, I think that, yeah, 1730 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,560 Speaker 3: they are too high. If they end up there, it 1731 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 3: will be a big upset and it will just mean 1732 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 3: that the AFC North is so so loaded. I have 1733 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 3: no problem them being sixteen if we were like fifteen. 1734 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,640 Speaker 3: But we'll see. It's clear that that division. Now you 1735 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 3: look at the rankings, I mean, our division is absurd. 1736 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,560 Speaker 3: Next higher or lower? This one for you? 1737 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 4: Poisel fourteen, Seattle fifteen, Minnesota sixteen, Caroline. As we've talked 1738 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 4: about number seventeen, the Miami Dolphins higher, lower or just right? 1739 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 5: Poisel, Yeah, I think they deserve to be higher better 1740 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 5: on this list, but it all comes down to just 1741 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 5: you know, if to a state's healthy, but if Tua 1742 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,640 Speaker 5: is healthy, then I think this is a team that 1743 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 5: has a chance to kind of crack the top ten 1744 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 5: again like they were doing the first month or two 1745 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 5: of last year. But as of right now, I think 1746 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 5: i'd probably put them in like the thirteen fourteen fifteen, sixteen, 1747 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 5: range seventeen is too much. 1748 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 3: Bishop, Well, where would you where would you slot them? 1749 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 2: I would put them, I mean I would do this 1750 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 2: whole This whole thing's all screwed up. Like I think 1751 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 2: Miami's better than the Lions. I think Miami's better than 1752 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Jacksonville right now, better than I think than the Giants 1753 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 2: right now. So like they're better than the Steelers. I mean, 1754 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 2: right now, two is healthy, So you have to go 1755 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 2: off of that. I'm not going to do something crazy 1756 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 2: like Poisel did last December and put them ahead of 1757 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 2: the Bengals. But I'm going to have them somewhere around ten. 1758 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean they have to be. 1759 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 2: And so they're way too criminally too low right now 1760 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 2: he's healthy. You have to judge him on what they 1761 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 2: are right now. He gets hurt, well, then that's a 1762 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 2: you blew it boy, big as you can be, because 1763 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 2: the rest of. 1764 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 4: The roster is incredible, all right, Final one higher or lower, 1765 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 4: just going through a couple of these others. Finally, a 1766 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 4: power ranking that recognizes that the Patriots are not good. Yeah, thirteen, 1767 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 4: some of their power ranks because everybody loves Bill and 1768 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,440 Speaker 4: they just assume Bill Belichick. 1769 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,920 Speaker 3: They should be in the top fifteen of any league. 1770 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 3: I mean, who are their skill players? 1771 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 4: A couple a few other notables. The Titans fall to 1772 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 4: twenty seven. Yes, the final four are the Rams twenty nine, 1773 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 4: the Raiders thirty, the Cardinals thirty one, and it takes 1774 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 4: us to thirty two. Pois out our guest of honor 1775 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,560 Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts at number thirty two. Should they be 1776 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 4: higher or are they just right? 1777 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 5: I don't think they deserve to be thirty two. I 1778 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 5: think this is just Paul don wich here is not 1779 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 5: very high on Anthony Richardson, which is fine. There's a 1780 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 5: lot of people that aren't high on them. But I 1781 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 5: see the Cardinals as the worst team in the league 1782 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 5: right now, and I think you could say the Colts 1783 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,040 Speaker 5: until we see that Anthony Richardson is able to, you know, 1784 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 5: win games in the NFL. I think, you know, they 1785 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 5: thought probably around like twenty eight, twenty nine. 1786 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 3: I'd put the Raiders, maybe even the. 1787 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 5: Texans behind them still, but we'll see. Obviously. It's just 1788 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 5: there's there's a lot of uncertainty as far as how 1789 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 5: high you know, Anthon Richardson's gonna be able to play 1790 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 5: as a rookie, and I think just based on this list, 1791 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 5: it suggests that the person who puts this together is 1792 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 5: not very high on him Bishop. 1793 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 2: The Bucks should be down here, yep. The Texans should 1794 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 2: be down here. The Cardinals should be down here. The 1795 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,639 Speaker 2: Comedy's defense might be too good to keep them from 1796 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 2: being down there. 1797 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't know why the Raiders are thirtieth. I agree 1798 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 3: with Jimmy g They're gonna win some games. Yeah. 1799 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 2: And I think the one that's a real wild colored 1800 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 2: here is the Rams at twenty nine. Like if Stafford 1801 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Donald cup if like they all play, are they really 1802 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 2: going to be like five and twelve? 1803 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't see that. 1804 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't add up to me, so I they'll be Plus, 1805 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 2: they play in a weaker division, so I think they 1806 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 2: need to come up. But I think the worst teams 1807 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,439 Speaker 2: in football are the Texans, the Cardinals, and the Bucks. 1808 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,679 Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals want to be the worst team 1809 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 3: in football. I think the Colts will be better than 1810 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 3: people think they are because with Gardner Binshi, they're gonna 1811 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 3: be capable of winning some games, I think for sure. 1812 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 3: I think it's an upgraded quarterback for them relative to 1813 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 3: what they've had with Wentz and what they had with 1814 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,440 Speaker 3: Matt Ryan last year. I think the Falcons are absurdly 1815 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 3: high on this list at twenty three. And now maybe 1816 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 3: they do go out and win some games with Beijon, 1817 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 3: and I think that's possible. But they're not, like I said, 1818 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 3: a serious threat. One thing that I've noticed too from 1819 01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 3: looking at this great thing? Have you am I seeing 1820 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 3: this correctly? But do the Eagles have the only left 1821 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 3: looking mascot in the NFL? 1822 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 2: H boy, I think you're right, not only left looking, 1823 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,640 Speaker 2: but even like all the ones that are letters, the 1824 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 2: letters look right. Everything does, except everything San Francisco straight on, 1825 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 2: the Giants, Jets, Dallas Steelers, well, no, we're looking Bears, No, Bears, 1826 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 2: isn't Raiders and Cole All the rest look right. 1827 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 3: Everything's either straight or right, except for the Eagles. That 1828 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 3: was an easier way to say what I just did. Yeah, yeah, 1829 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 3: but I liked it. We got there. Look good job 1830 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 3: out of you, ap, Great job, AP. We'll see you 1831 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 3: down the road. But love the fireside chat yep, oh 1832 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 3: it's great. We'll have to have you. 1833 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 2: We'll have to have you here, so much more to come. 1834 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 2: You'll listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1835 01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed coming 1836 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1837 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 2: All right, welcome a kid to Cleveland Browns Daily from 1838 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 2: the undisclosed location. 1839 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 4: The fireplace does look spectacular, of course it does, and 1840 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,639 Speaker 4: it gives off some heat earlier. 1841 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, how quickly? How quickly can we get smoking jackets 1842 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 3: and ascots? Very I would like some if somebody out 1843 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 3: there has it in their abilities, and I would be 1844 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,799 Speaker 3: happy to common state said person, Like a brown smoking 1845 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 3: jacket would be pretty sweet if we could have one 1846 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,960 Speaker 3: of those. I feel like we don't understand. What about 1847 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,840 Speaker 3: those one jackets were right outside our studio, the old 1848 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 3: alumni blazers. Yeah, oh, I've never seen those there. I 1849 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 3: couldn't fit in any of them. I tried. They're huge, No, 1850 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 3: they were too small. There was one that was like 1851 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 3: five times tall. I'm taller than the coat called for. 1852 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 3: So there those were like alumni jackets out there. Yeah, 1853 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 3: DB's baby. I never realized that. I never looked at that. 1854 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 3: Whatever happened all that stuff? It's in our studio now, 1855 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you think we could sneak back in and 1856 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 3: see what we got. Yeah, we're working with maybe we will. 1857 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 3: Now we need like the real cooking jackets, like the HEF. Yeah, 1858 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 3: what I'm thinking of is maybe like a nice vulure, 1859 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 3: like an orange vlure with a brown Now. 1860 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 2: You're talking, Saton Lapel. 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