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Speaker 3: This is It could Happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 3: news cast covering what's happening in the White House, the
Speaker 3: crumbling world, and Andy Dick. I'm Garrison Davis this episode.
Speaker 3: I'm joined by do we refer to someone? The first time,
Speaker 3: we only used the last name Garrison. Yeah, I'm joined
Speaker 3: by being James Shout, Robert Evans, and Sophy Lichter. We
Speaker 3: are covering the week of December fourth, December tenth.
Speaker 2: So one of the big stories of the last week
Speaker 2: or so is something that would seem would be unequivically
Speaker 2: a bad thing in any other political climate, which is
Speaker 2: Netflix buying Warner Brothers and contributing to the shrinking ever
Speaker 2: further of like America's like the number of people who
Speaker 2: actually own all of the media that Americans consume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, monopolization is obviously bad.
Speaker 2: But in this case, I mean it's it's it's bad
Speaker 2: that that end. It's probably better that Netflix buy it
Speaker 2: than Paramount by it.
Speaker 5: Yes, so I.
Speaker 4: Guess I'm like, well, okay, it's going to be working.
Speaker 5: Creditor versus alien situation.
Speaker 3: It's a really a weird situation, right, because a lot
Speaker 3: of people are really dooming about Netflix acquiring Warner Brothers
Speaker 3: and what that'll mean for like, you know, art and
Speaker 3: the you know, theatrical model of film distribution, and then
Speaker 3: not realizing that Paramount's counterbid based on Saudi money, yeah,
Speaker 3: would place Warner Brothers in the control of one of
Speaker 3: the most Trump aligned like media enterprises in the United
Speaker 3: States right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so let's let's let's roll back a second
Speaker 5: and look at what is actually going on here. And
Speaker 5: it's actually very important to note this is being recorded
Speaker 5: on Wednesday's Zeber tenth. This whole situation is changing extremely quickly.
Speaker 5: There could be some another unhinged thing could have happened
Speaker 5: by the time you're listening to this. But the basics
Speaker 5: here is that Paramount which was recently acquired by sky Dance.
Speaker 5: Which is which direction did that acquisition go?
Speaker 3: I mean, technically.
Speaker 5: Speaking was a merger, but it was really but it
Speaker 5: was Skydance taking control of Paramount. Skydance had been run
Speaker 5: by Larry Ellison's son, David Ellison.
Speaker 3: David.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, and this is this is this is this
Speaker 5: is the regime that sort of imposed Barry Weiss on CBS,
Speaker 5: which has become increasingly right wing under her quote unquote leadership.
Speaker 5: We're going to do a full episode about this. I
Speaker 5: think on Monday.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be tuning into the Charlie Kirka Erica kirktown
Speaker 3: Hall on CBS this Saturday.
Speaker 5: Oh God, they can't make me. I will have recorded
Speaker 5: this episode before they did this. I'm going to be
Speaker 5: tuning in because it looks phenomenal, so it's worth putting out.
Speaker 5: So Larry Ellison, who is the father of David Ellison,
Speaker 5: is one of the most terrifying of all of the
Speaker 5: right wing billionaires. Yeah, he's kind of more quiet than
Speaker 5: someone like Andresen or Elon Musk about being a unhinged
Speaker 5: right wing fanatic. But he's one of Trump's biggest spporters.
Speaker 5: He has a whole thing about how everyone's inevitably going
Speaker 5: to be under total concerts or avenalllists that will make
Speaker 5: everyone behave Well, we'll cover this more later. But the
Speaker 5: Ellison's the father son Ellison duo and paramounts backed by
Speaker 5: the Saudis Abu Dabi Catterer.
Speaker 2: They want Bugs Bunny desperately because he keeps My sources
Speaker 2: are saying he keeps pranking Mohammed Ben Salmon.
Speaker 3: By cross dressing. Yeah, and it's really Yeah.
Speaker 2: The entire Saudi military is incapable of stopping Bugs Bunny,
Speaker 2: I mean, bet for taking him down.
Speaker 3: Well, I think what's what's an interesting fact in these
Speaker 3: various bids for control of Warner Brothers. The Netflix deal
Speaker 3: does not include CNN. The Paramount deal does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, before we get into that, we should we should
Speaker 5: say what Paramount is doing now, which is Paramounts on
Speaker 5: Monday began to try to just do a hostle takeover
Speaker 5: by just straight up buying out the shares at what
Speaker 5: they're claiming is the higher share price. There's a whole
Speaker 5: lot of complicated stuff yeah about share pricing here that
Speaker 5: you don't really care about.
Speaker 2: And there have been so many dishonest headlines, like one
Speaker 2: being like Paramount lost the bid by just seventy five cents.
Speaker 2: Seventy five cents to share. That's like hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars.
Speaker 5: Scats And that's not even it's it's all, it's all ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal has been getting a lot of
Speaker 5: the information about this. We've gotten to a point on
Speaker 5: Wednesday where investors are going to the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 5: and being like, there's gonna be a bidding war. There's
Speaker 5: gonna be a bidding war. But the Wall stretjournle points out,
Speaker 5: and I think this is an interesting thing here that's
Speaker 5: important to say. These hostile takeover attempts almost never work.
Speaker 5: It's like thirty percent of the time. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 5: like sub thirty percent that these that these things kind
Speaker 5: of work. But the other card that the Father's son
Speaker 5: Ellison duo have is claiming that Trump is more likely
Speaker 5: to back Paramount's buyout than the Netflix one because Trump
Speaker 5: can sort of stop this through anti trust or quote
Speaker 5: unquote anti trust stuff. Per Axios, Jared Kushner's consultancy firm
Speaker 5: is part of Paramount's buyout plan, and per Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 5: David Ellison met with Trump with Trump administration officials in
Speaker 5: quote recent days and has offered to you know, this
Speaker 5: this comes back to what Garrison was saying about CNN
Speaker 5: being part about part of this package. They have been
Speaker 5: offering to effectively do to CNA what they did to CBS,
Speaker 5: which is put it under the control of the right
Speaker 5: wing fanatic and turn it into a propaganda pure propaganda outlet.
Speaker 5: This is you know, obviously corruption of a sort of
Speaker 5: mind blowing yeah. Yeah, and a broad to the fact
Speaker 5: that like our quote unquote free press is literally just
Speaker 5: for sale.
Speaker 3: Amazingly, this is not this doesn't seem to be working, no,
Speaker 3: I mean, and Trump has spoken positively about Netflix and
Speaker 3: the Netflix CEO the past few days.
Speaker 5: But he's also speaking negatively about both of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both the Netflix heard negatively about Ellison recently. And
Speaker 2: there's a there's a quote from an article I found
Speaker 2: uh in the Wall Street Journal. Trump is so far
Speaker 2: avoided publicly backing a bitter None of them are particularly
Speaker 2: great friends of mine, he said at a White House
Speaker 2: round table on Monday. A person close to Trump said
Speaker 2: the President will want Paramount and Netflix to compete for
Speaker 2: his approval of a deal, which does sound very Trump.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and apparently the specific thing he's mad at Paramount
Speaker 5: about is for having Mergory Taylor Green on CBSS.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's It's really funny.
Speaker 5: There is no amount of sort of ass kissing that
Speaker 5: you can do to actually make Trump consistently be on
Speaker 5: your side. It's really hideous.
Speaker 3: This is all disgusting, unless unless you give him the
Speaker 3: FIFO World Peace Prize.
Speaker 4: Yes, Troy, Yeah, he'll die for FIFA now. Yeah, can
Speaker 4: I just say fuck me?
Speaker 2: He's actually renaming American football to soccer.
Speaker 3: God, I love the FIFA trophy because it looks disgusting trophy.
Speaker 4: Yes, I have fifteen minutes on that.
Speaker 3: It's just all those hands grasping that ball.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really genuinely one of the one of the most
Speaker 6: impressive actors sports sick fantasy since nineteen thirty three.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't seem like Trump is as keen
Speaker 3: to back Paramount's bid as what some of the Paramount
Speaker 3: people thought he might be. The Netflix deal might just
Speaker 3: end up actually going through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we'll see about this. This is all
Speaker 5: going to change probably by the time you're reading this
Speaker 5: or listening to this. That's that's the one that you do.
Speaker 5: But it's so cool that we live in an economy
Speaker 5: where your two options are Netflix destroys Film forever and
Speaker 5: the Nazis gain control of CNN. It's great, great system. Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Notes, And what what would really be damaging if if
Speaker 3: Paramount's able to buy Warner Brothers is that then they
Speaker 3: would be in charge of Nathan Fielder's rehearsal, which which
Speaker 3: does which does target the fascistic Paramount regime. Yeah, James,
Speaker 3: what's some what's some small news stories we can uh,
Speaker 3: we can go with here before our first break.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm operating on a couple of computers here,
Speaker 6: So this is gonna I'm gonna have to work around
Speaker 6: some constraints.
Speaker 3: Fam, good thing you're wearing your five eleven uniform to
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Speaker 6: Garson, this is not five eleven, my friend, this is
Speaker 6: five dot one dot one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I still have my knockoff Timberland shirt which just says
Speaker 2: thix and gand and looks honestly, the label looks like
Speaker 2: an AI slop tried to put the Timberland logo.
Speaker 4: It's amazing.
Speaker 6: My favorite is the one that just says sixteen five
Speaker 6: plus eleven. I love fake five eleven shit. If you
Speaker 6: have fake five eleven shit, I have a collection of it.
Speaker 6: Send it to me. I will retire and make a
Speaker 6: museum one day. I cannot get enough of it. I
Speaker 6: love that it started as a rock climbing brand in
Speaker 6: New Smite and now it is a lifestyle brand in Syria.
Speaker 3: It's perfect.
Speaker 4: I tell you, I missed my Adodus tracksuit that I got.
Speaker 6: A I got some. I've got some Merle boots as well.
Speaker 6: I love that ship. I got a fake Gourban knife
Speaker 6: graber that that Yeah, yeah, bullshit bullshit knives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of my face because putting up women's
Speaker 5: hats very soon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, let's talk about the news. So this is
Speaker 6: a fun one. Schrodink is permit going to call it.
Speaker 6: In Pensacola, somebody participating in Food not Bombs was arrested
Speaker 6: Following that, at a press conference, the city announced that
Speaker 6: a person was arrested for being in a park too late, right,
Speaker 6: I guess in Florida, of course, yeah, this is this
Speaker 6: is the most serious crime.
Speaker 4: Yes, and also.
Speaker 6: Giving food to poor people, which is probably like a
Speaker 6: felony in Florida. So the city then announced issue have
Speaker 6: been resolved because there had been there was a permit
Speaker 6: issued to Food not Bombs for them.
Speaker 3: To be in the park late and give people food.
Speaker 6: Food not Bombs did not apply for the permit, nor
Speaker 6: do they want the permit, right, there's no kind of
Speaker 6: That's not how Food on Bombs works. Food not Bombs
Speaker 6: is an is it action? Non entity? Right like it
Speaker 6: is a protest action. The city is now reviewing if
Speaker 6: the permit is releasable under public records laws so someone
Speaker 6: can find out who attempted to white Knight food not bombs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: some of the suggestions as there's a guy who runs
Speaker 6: some kind of we will cooperate with the cops to
Speaker 6: get people of fentanyl charity, which uses some incredible AI
Speaker 6: imagery on its Instagram page.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I will keep you updated on this, this
Speaker 6: Florida story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that. James.
Speaker 6: In the Oregon versus Trump case regarding National Guard deployment,
Speaker 6: Judge J. Biby, not normally a guy associated with WOKE,
Speaker 6: a George W. Bush appointee, has penned an extensive opinion
Speaker 6: I think of sixty four pages on the domestic violence
Speaker 6: clause at the Constitution and how it ought.
Speaker 3: To restrain the use of the Guard.
Speaker 6: So it's like a different argument than we've seen previously, right,
Speaker 6: in discussions about the National Guards, because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read the other judge opinion pieces, but not
Speaker 3: this one. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So Biby's been been in it for a while, and yeah,
Speaker 6: he's been someone who has previously not really been an
Speaker 6: opponent of what I might see as of overreach in
Speaker 6: terms of state power and violence. But yeah, using this
Speaker 6: this is a different clause to the Constitution, right, So
Speaker 6: it's now moving along in that discussion yesterday as we
Speaker 6: were recording this, so that would be on Tuesday at
Speaker 6: the ninth. The Democrats, how they buy cameral shadow quote
Speaker 6: unquote shadow hearing on the detention of US citizens by
Speaker 6: DHS that doesn't really have the power to do much.
Speaker 6: And I have not had time to listen to the
Speaker 6: entire recording because it was only streamed on Facebook. I
Speaker 6: love that we have an opposition in this country.
Speaker 3: God, I love the Democrats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really I like how together they've got it,
Speaker 2: Like after a rough patch, they're really firing out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like a phoenix from the Ashes have an absolute
Speaker 6: ass whipping in the election.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like an ass phoenix exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, ass Phoenix. That's that's my band. Actually, I can't
Speaker 6: believe that you plugged us on there.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 6: Trump's ongoing barrage of hate about Somali people has been
Speaker 6: met with some incredible posting. People who are not on
Speaker 6: x dot com will have missed this, but like genuinely
Speaker 6: some of the funniest response to some of the most
Speaker 6: hateful shit. Like Trump and Miller have both been on
Speaker 6: a guess Fox News. Fox News went to Minneapolis and
Speaker 6: heard a call to prayer and had a meltdown about it.
Speaker 6: But this is this campaign, I guess by Trump and
Speaker 6: Miller is very much ongoing. We spoke about that last
Speaker 6: week with the TBS, and people aren't familiar, they can
Speaker 6: check that out last week. Yeah, Aileen Higgins won the
Speaker 6: Miami mayoral election. Do I want to make a pit Bull.
Speaker 4: Joke the dog you're talking about, mister worldwide.
Speaker 6: Well, we could do. Margat is a major issue. I'm
Speaker 6: just trying to work on that acronym.
Speaker 4: Oh God, because.
Speaker 2: I'm always thinking about mister worldwide, James. He's never far
Speaker 2: from my thoughts.
Speaker 6: No, I often think about Pitbull and how he and
Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton often were exactly the same thing.
Speaker 2: That's right, they have a lot in common. Actually, the
Speaker 2: primary thing.
Speaker 3: Is Miami, Yes, mister, yeah, yeah, yes, But this is
Speaker 3: the first time a Democrat has won the mayoral office
Speaker 3: in Miami in almost thirty years, which is this is
Speaker 3: wild significant.
Speaker 5: This is astonishing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I guess was like a pretty decent win.
Speaker 3: This was a runoff election, but it's still a pretty
Speaker 3: pretty substantial win.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I think there's a few important notes here. One
Speaker 5: is that even the Miami Cuba demographics swung massively towards
Speaker 5: the Democrats, which is sort of apocalyptic news for the Republicans.
Speaker 5: Stas really, really bad. If you're losing the Miami Cuban population.
Speaker 2: If you have got Miami Cubans to think critically about politics,
Speaker 2: things are dire.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the other thing here too, is that the Florida
Speaker 5: Democratic Party, like I would compare them to clowns, but
Speaker 5: like these these motherfuckers make Bobo the Clown look like
Speaker 5: fucking Napoleon. These are the most some of the most
Speaker 5: incompetent people in the entire history of politics, and the
Speaker 5: Republicans are losing to them. That's astonishing. There were a
Speaker 5: couple of other results like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this week, Democrats flipped a Georgia State House seat.
Speaker 3: The seat moved blue by twenty two points.
Speaker 4: Geez yep.
Speaker 5: They flipped Albuquerque City Council. There's all of these little results,
Speaker 5: and this has been happening basically since we got the
Speaker 5: first special elections of the Trump administration, where the Republicans
Speaker 5: are losing like R plus twenty two districts. They're getting
Speaker 5: destroyed in places that it shouldn't be possible for them
Speaker 5: to lose and this is another major confirmation of the
Speaker 5: media everyone hates them theory. Every day it gets more
Speaker 5: and more validated. Everyone can hate them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Last a small news story that I think is
Speaker 3: worth mentioning because it's a I think pretty important. Actually,
Speaker 3: conservative podcaster Benny Johnson is threatening to sue Milo Theanopolis
Speaker 3: for alleging that he is gay. So we're gonna be
Speaker 3: keeping up with this story pretty close. I know this
Speaker 3: has a lot of ramifications for listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, cool, we should do ads. We're back and
Speaker 2: we're talking about the January sixth pipe bomb guy suspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we know there's a person. We don't
Speaker 2: know that it was a guy. We know someone playing
Speaker 2: for those pipe bombs. I'm going to talk about the suspect.
Speaker 2: I want to start just for a little bit by
Speaker 2: again talking about the degree to which I really hope
Speaker 2: this is apocalyptic for the Blaze. Yeah, what they did
Speaker 2: is a case study and what you should never do
Speaker 2: as a publication. It was unethical, it was idiotic, and
Speaker 2: it was deeply dangerous. And if the Capitol police officer
Speaker 2: does not sue them, I don't know what kind of
Speaker 2: advice she's getting other than maybe just sheer terror at
Speaker 2: the number of death threats she's already received. But like ma'am,
Speaker 2: getting all of Glennbeck's money is the only thing that
Speaker 2: will keep you safe right now.
Speaker 4: Please do it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you you were out last week when we
Speaker 3: when we got the like some the very first reporting
Speaker 3: on the pipe bomb arrests.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, is the only thing I regret about
Speaker 2: my vacation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but very little information was out last week, and
Speaker 3: we have more information now regarding the alleged January sixth
Speaker 3: pipe bomber, or technically January fifth pipe bomber, who is
Speaker 3: now charged with transporting an explosive device with attempt to kill,
Speaker 3: injure or damaged property, and attempted malicious destruction by means
Speaker 3: of fire and explosive materials. According to court records, the
Speaker 3: FBI identified the suspect through cell tower records, license plate readers,
Speaker 3: and purchases of potential bomb making materials, including the pipes,
Speaker 3: the cap ends, the wires, steel, and nine volt batteries.
Speaker 3: It doesn't appear that they gained possession of new information,
Speaker 3: but by changing the agents looking at the information, they
Speaker 3: were able to piece piece this together to actually make
Speaker 3: inaction on it, leading to the arrest.
Speaker 2: So it's a classic FBI story of they had all
Speaker 2: the information they needed to have caught this guy very
Speaker 2: long ago and did not yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, or lack the ability to like put the piece
Speaker 3: together in a way that makes them able to do
Speaker 3: the rest.
Speaker 2: But as is always the case, this was not an
Speaker 2: issue if they didn't have enough access to information. There
Speaker 2: was too much ENCRYPTI you know, they need more power. No,
Speaker 2: they had everything they needed. They just didn't think right.
Speaker 4: That's what it was. They weren't thinking right, you know.
Speaker 3: Still, very little has come out officially about the alleged
Speaker 3: bomber's potential motivation.
Speaker 4: Who may be innocent, let's be clear, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: There's nothing alluding to his motivation in the charging documents
Speaker 3: besides just an interest, a year's long interest in bombmaking,
Speaker 3: starting in twenty nineteen and continuing into like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Now NBC has reported based on sources inside the law
Speaker 3: enforcement investigation team, but Embassy's reported that before the suspect
Speaker 3: acquired an attorney, he confessed to investigators and told the
Speaker 3: FBI that he believed in twenty twenty election conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3: But some new information from the New York Post, which
Speaker 3: I have verified may have actually cracked this story wide open.
Speaker 3: They have learned that the suspect is a brony. My
Speaker 3: Little Pony fan draws a lot of actually relatively good
Speaker 3: quality My Little Pony fan art and writes fins my
Speaker 3: Little Pony fan fiction. I could read some.
Speaker 2: Here, Garrison, what is the quality of their fan fiction? Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's just just give us like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I'll read a paragraph. Quote Apple Bloom's eyes. It snapped open,
Speaker 3: and she sat up in her bed, panting heavily and
Speaker 3: sweat dripping from her red mane. It was another bad
Speaker 3: dream about that village she had discovered back in the
Speaker 3: Ever Free Forest sunny Town. At first, it seemed like
Speaker 3: a normal, peaceful little village, kind of like Ponyville. What
Speaker 3: was strange was that none of the inhabitants had cutie marks.
Speaker 3: In fact, they hadn't the slightest clue as to what
Speaker 3: a cutie mark was.
Speaker 4: So could you send me that link? Could? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll actually, I'll send this to the entire team chat.
Speaker 5: I'm demanding hazard pay at the next union negotiations. Hazard pay.
Speaker 3: Actually, like, this is very standard, but relatively good quality.
Speaker 3: My Little Pony brony activity non sexual entirely like. I've
Speaker 3: looked at a lot of this guy's art. It's fairly clear, pros,
Speaker 3: fairly high quality. My Little Pony fan are in a
Speaker 3: variety of styles from different earros at the show. Not
Speaker 3: like a sexually fetishistic depiction.
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see the headlines from this. Yeah, cool
Speaker 2: Zone host defends Capital bipe bombers pros.
Speaker 3: But no like. A high school classmate told Washington Post
Speaker 3: that he was bullied for having a My Little Pony
Speaker 3: backpack in school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: He's had this interest for quite a while, kind of
Speaker 3: kind of tapered off a few years before before the bombing,
Speaker 3: But for a while this was like kind of one
Speaker 3: of his main hobbies. On a Tumblr profile, he lists
Speaker 3: his interest as quote hardcore music, video games, mainly horror, drawing,
Speaker 3: improving myself philosophically, and anime. Unquote. Well, his grandmother has
Speaker 3: described him as quote almost autistic, like because he doesn't
Speaker 3: understand a lot of stuff. Unquote. He's only ever worked
Speaker 3: for the family bail bond business.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I'll say this, he wasn't bad
Speaker 2: like he kind of had a future in a private
Speaker 2: security or something like that, like not bad op set
Speaker 2: as it turned out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: A funny slash A dark thing is that in the
Speaker 3: right wing just desperate effort to make everything about trans people,
Speaker 3: they have turned this Brony thing into like a you
Speaker 3: know the trans people also like my little pony and
Speaker 3: like Bronie and like like quotes from like psychologists in
Speaker 3: some of these articles about how how how Bronie is
Speaker 3: like play with like gender boundaries spy by being fans
Speaker 3: of like a girl's like a like a property that's
Speaker 3: usually enjoyed by girls. So there's like a like attempt
Speaker 3: to try to kind of paint this and like in
Speaker 3: like a pseudo translate, but that's not getting much traction
Speaker 3: because like people know what Broni's are, and like, come on,
Speaker 3: I think this, this whole strategy is on the out
Speaker 3: in some ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, am I am I incorrect here because I had
Speaker 2: just caught this, but I didn't Actually this is like
Speaker 2: while I was on vacation, I had heard that he
Speaker 2: expressed a belief that the twenty twenty election was stolen
Speaker 2: from Trump.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's we see do we know if that's accurate. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 4: So he does seem to.
Speaker 3: That's been reported by the NBC that he told investigators
Speaker 3: that he believed in like twenty twenty election conspiracy theories. Okay,
Speaker 3: the ones that were spread by Trump.
Speaker 2: So, I mean it seems like from what we have,
Speaker 2: one of the more predictable ones. And like it's not
Speaker 2: if this is like a weird right wing you know, Bronie.
Speaker 2: This is not the first time right wing Bronie has
Speaker 2: done something violent.
Speaker 3: He doesn't seem super political in my opinion, Like none
Speaker 3: of his own activity points towards a deep interest in politics.
Speaker 2: No, but if he said he thought the election was stolen,
Speaker 2: then that is makes sense as being a contributing fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a factor perhaps, but not a huge like
Speaker 3: online presence that revolves around politics. Like a lot of
Speaker 3: people who aren't super into politics maybe thought the election
Speaker 3: was like stolen or like rigged.
Speaker 2: I mean, as we try to point out periodically, the
Speaker 2: vast majority of people who will carry out a shooting
Speaker 2: or other act of mass public violence in the US
Speaker 2: are going to have more in common with other people
Speaker 2: who do that than anyone specifically, just in political terms
Speaker 2: for the most part, because most of them are you know,
Speaker 2: there's their shooter stands there, they're that sort of thing,
Speaker 2: like this is their special interest bombings or whatever he.
Speaker 3: Does seem to have, Like it's a lot of special interests, right.
Speaker 3: It used to be my little ponies, then it became
Speaker 3: bomb making that just seemed to be a special interest
Speaker 3: of his for like three or four years. Was just
Speaker 3: like the practice of bomb making. This is just just
Speaker 3: something he got like into, And I think that's more
Speaker 3: of a motivating force and like a specific partisan political motivation.
Speaker 3: And I think it's really funny, like reflecting on a
Speaker 3: a statement that that that law enforcement leaked last week
Speaker 3: saying that he had like anarchist like leanings, which is
Speaker 3: very very amusing now in light of in light of
Speaker 3: all of that, for.
Speaker 6: A long time, they have used anarchism to mean like
Speaker 6: a predilection for violence or chaos.
Speaker 2: Doesn't less like the government, right, Like, yeah, part of
Speaker 2: this is just the way people tend to use the
Speaker 2: term anarchism. When I was doing my research for like
Speaker 2: the nuclear Doomstate device episodes, there's a bunch of otherwise
Speaker 2: great pieces that are like and then in the in
Speaker 2: the wake of a global nuclear war, society will collapse
Speaker 2: and all that will be left is anarchy. It's like, guys, like,
Speaker 2: it's not anarchy. That's that's going to be the problem
Speaker 2: that like, like you realize that the cause of.
Speaker 3: A nuclear war is like yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Of this, Yeah, it's it is not an anarchy as
Speaker 2: opposed to nuclear war I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: For example, Yeah, yeah, venue clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about like democracy, fucking authoritarian as I'm
Speaker 2: worried about all of those things. Anarchists would never have
Speaker 2: built the nuclear dooms dat advice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's why I used left libertarian sometimes in my
Speaker 6: academic writing, because.
Speaker 3: It was just the term.
Speaker 6: It's just not comprehensible, especially someone coming having been raised
Speaker 6: on US media.
Speaker 2: And in the wake of a global nuclear war, you'll
Speaker 2: be lucky to get some anarchy because it probably means
Speaker 2: someone's found some food and it's cooking it for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah food no bombs on like food off.
Speaker 6: They've rebranded, but that's still going food common.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bomb was actually done with bombs.
Speaker 5: We did it. Yeah, we replaced the bots of food.
Speaker 3: One other update I'll squeeze in here quick it's short. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Last week, the Supreme Court ruled that Texas can use
Speaker 3: its newly drawn congressional map in the upcoming twenty twenty
Speaker 3: six midterms, likely adding five Republican seats. The lower court order,
Speaker 3: which found the new map was racially gerrymannered intentionally has
Speaker 3: It's been stayed indefinitely as the Supreme Court prepares to
Speaker 3: consider whether to overturn the lower court's ruling entirely, a
Speaker 3: process which could take months go well into the midterm cycle.
Speaker 3: So the Supreme Court authorized the use of that new
Speaker 3: map for this next election.
Speaker 6: Talking of fan fiction and covers of things, here is
Speaker 6: a song that was originally the worst song by the
Speaker 6: Clash and now it's about tariffs, rocking.
Speaker 7: Jazz righty jazz boy Jazz right jazz Bob.
Speaker 3: I think the cover is of a similar quality as
Speaker 3: the alleged bomber's fan art in my opinion, Dear God,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good twilight sparkle stuff that he
Speaker 3: was strong. Come sorry, So all right.
Speaker 5: China is technically once again buying American soybeans. Is part
Speaker 5: of the sort of giant trade deal that Chi Jiping
Speaker 5: and Trump negotiated. But come up it is not buying
Speaker 5: soybeans at the rate that the White House said it
Speaker 5: would in the fact sheet that was released by the
Speaker 5: White House about the negotiations. This is a huge problem
Speaker 5: because farmers are still not being able to sell enough
Speaker 5: soybeans to not get completely fucked, and the White House
Speaker 5: is now putting out a bunch of statements saying, oh no,
Speaker 5: we actually screwed up the fact sheet. They said that
Speaker 5: they would buy the soybeans not before the end of
Speaker 5: the year, before at the end of like the growing season.
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, And the other solution to this has been
Speaker 5: a twelve billion dollar farmer bailout, which is funny because
Speaker 5: he did a twelve billion dollar farm bailout in his
Speaker 5: first term when exactly the same thing happened and it
Speaker 5: didn't really do anything.
Speaker 3: Well, at least we're not bailing out let's say Argentina.
Speaker 3: Funny example, Gars, what makes you choose that one?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: God? Yeah. So. The issue with this farmer's bailout is
Speaker 5: and this is something that farmers have been saying through
Speaker 5: all of the trade press, any regular press. They can
Speaker 5: get access to every local media outlet, every single farmer
Speaker 5: who anyone has interviewed has gone, we don't want to
Speaker 5: bail out. We want to be able to sell our
Speaker 5: blasted soybeans, and they still can't. And this is, you know,
Speaker 5: a becoming a real problem for this administration that even
Speaker 5: after their giant negotiations to get tried out of by soybeans,
Speaker 5: they still can't do it. And farmers are continuing to
Speaker 5: be very very piss off about this.
Speaker 3: Where are my beans? Yeah, they're sitting in the silos.
Speaker 3: They're still there. They can't sell them.
Speaker 6: How am I going to keep up my soy consumption
Speaker 6: and goin it befless to become a I know what
Speaker 6: other vegan options era, some other kind of boy, I guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll just have to get it from Brazilians.
Speaker 3: That brazil mentioned. Everyone cheer, Hey, they don't good these days?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hasn't there been some Bolsonnaro news recently? I
Speaker 3: feel like.
Speaker 4: There has been. Let's roll to ads and then we'll
Speaker 4: talk about it.
Speaker 5: Okay, this has been Urfuck.
Speaker 2: We're back, and you know who's not free to listen
Speaker 2: to podcasts?
Speaker 4: Hear Bolsonnaro, We can hope.
Speaker 2: After trying to cut off his ankle monitor, he has
Speaker 2: been taken into custody for attempting or probably trying to escape.
Speaker 2: Trump had made comments about it, expecting to see him soon. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think he's gonna die in prison.
Speaker 2: He's not doing well. I will say one thing we
Speaker 2: got to do. You know, back when he got stabbed,
Speaker 2: I think everyone's opinion on it was like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 2: you've just you know, you've made him a martyr. You
Speaker 2: got to look cool and seem like a badass. This
Speaker 2: has done nothing but empower him.
Speaker 3: No, it cares. No.
Speaker 2: Actually, that stab did a lot of damage, Like that
Speaker 2: ruined his life, low key. Yeah, So thoughts and prayers
Speaker 2: to that guy wherever he is. You know, we just
Speaker 2: didn't realize the level of game that you had, my man.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's it's it's tough. I mean we
Speaker 3: used to have the two like of the world sickest men,
Speaker 3: Bolsonnaro and Stephen Crowder, just fighting it out to see
Speaker 3: who would stay sicker for a long But Jordan Peterson
Speaker 3: that seems like erasia. Yeah, he's taking the spot because
Speaker 3: he's still vanished from the Daily Wire because of his
Speaker 3: like bizarre His.
Speaker 4: Daughter says he's basically dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like patient zero for CWD and humans or something. Right,
Speaker 3: Like the Daily Wire still is acting like Peterson's is
Speaker 3: like still a person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out Cold Turkey quitting Benzos via a
Speaker 2: fucking coma in Russia is a bad call.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Crowder, I did watch the two hours Stephen
Speaker 3: Crowder Nick Fuentez interview this week. Oh God, and it
Speaker 3: was really uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll bet I can imagine.
Speaker 3: They were just like jerking each other off for two hours.
Speaker 3: Nick was trying to be nice and like not act
Speaker 3: like Steven's this like like totally irrelevant like boomer, and
Speaker 3: Stephen was trying to make Nick think he was cool,
Speaker 3: and it was so painful to watch the entire time. Wat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was bad. There was nothing else notable from that.
Speaker 3: I guess let's actually move to some notable notable stories
Speaker 3: to close this episode.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I want to talk about the case of
Speaker 6: Fustino Pablo Pablo. A US District court in El Paso,
Speaker 6: Texas has granted mister Pablo Pablo a tentative restraining order
Speaker 6: directing the government to return him to the United States
Speaker 6: by the twelfth of this month, which will be the
Speaker 6: day that you are hearing this episode. Mister Pablo Pablo
Speaker 6: entered the USA in twenty twelve and was found removal
Speaker 6: by a judge. However, that judge granted his application for
Speaker 6: withholding of removal under the Convention against Torture because he
Speaker 6: would likely be tortured if he was returned to Guatemala,
Speaker 6: which is where from In theory, he was removable therefore
Speaker 6: to a place where he would not likely be tortured. Right,
Speaker 6: this is what we've seen the US government doing more
Speaker 6: and more in the last year. Really, he spent more
Speaker 6: than a decade. He moved to California, attended his ICE
Speaker 6: check ins until he was detained an ICE check in
Speaker 6: on the fifth of November. Mister Pablo Pablo's lawyer filed
Speaker 6: a habeas petition and asked the court to enjoin ICE
Speaker 6: from removing him from the Western District of Texas, which
Speaker 6: is where they took him on the seventeenth of November. Right,
Speaker 6: so he was detained on the fifth. People who listened
Speaker 6: to my immigration series a couple of weeks ago will
Speaker 6: be familiar with this. Right, people were detained in La
Speaker 6: ferried all around California, and then sent to Texas.
Speaker 3: This is what happened in his case.
Speaker 6: He wouldn't have been sent to the same place for
Speaker 6: people in my serious work, because that's for family detention.
Speaker 6: By the time the court ordered the government not to
Speaker 6: remove him, they had already sent him back to Guatemala,
Speaker 6: just to cover There is one country in the world
Speaker 6: that he has withholding of removal to because he will
Speaker 6: be tortured there most likely, and that is where they
Speaker 6: sent him. The government conceded that they had made a
Speaker 6: mistake and said they quote tentatively scheduled a flight for
Speaker 6: the fourth of December. He did not take that flight.
Speaker 6: As far as we know, he is doing water Mala.
Speaker 6: He's in hiding and the court has ordered that the
Speaker 6: government facilitate his return by the twelfth of this month,
Speaker 6: so we'll probably update you on that in next week's ed.
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about an expansion of social media monitoring,
Speaker 3: which we've already seen for visa applicants, but now expanding
Speaker 3: out to tourists as well. Customs of Border Protection and
Speaker 3: DHS have posted a sixty day notice for a proposal
Speaker 3: to revise the Electronics system for Travel Authorization Application, which
Speaker 3: is a waiver that some foreign tourists can use to
Speaker 3: avoid getting a tourist visa, and the proposal is to
Speaker 3: add mandatory social media collection for all foreign tourists using
Speaker 3: the ESTA visa waiver. This proposal would require that applicants
Speaker 3: provide the social media information from the past five years,
Speaker 3: citing a January Executive order quote protecting the United States
Speaker 3: from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety
Speaker 3: threats un quote. This would match the sort of social
Speaker 3: media monitoring we've seen applied to some visa applicants and immigrants,
Speaker 3: just now extending out to tourists using the ESTA application,
Speaker 3: and to comply with this January Executive order, CBP is
Speaker 3: also planning to add quote several high value data fields
Speaker 3: to the ESTA application when feasible unquote. This would include
Speaker 3: quote telephone numbers used in the last five years, email
Speaker 3: address is used in the last ten years, IP addresses
Speaker 3: and metadata from electronically submitted photos, family member names, parents, spouse, siblings, children,
Speaker 3: family telephone numbers used in the last five years, family
Speaker 3: member dates of birth, family member places of birth, family
Speaker 3: member residences, biometric face, fingerprint, DNA and IRIS, business telephone
Speaker 3: numbers used in the last five years, and business email
Speaker 3: addresses used in the last ten years unquote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a wild amount of data. I mean
Speaker 6: they can flash some of this like really quickly again
Speaker 6: against like quote unquote watch lists, right, Yeah, but some
Speaker 6: of this A like to gather this data to gather
Speaker 6: biometric data, that's not possible with like you say, you're
Speaker 6: applying on your cell phone or your your home computer, right,
Speaker 6: so this might require an appointment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for some of the fingerprint stuff. Part of the
Speaker 3: proposal is also requiring selfie be submitted with this application,
Speaker 3: separate from whatever's on the ID that is being used,
Speaker 3: and so they can extract some like facial biometrics from that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they can also they can also collect that stuff
Speaker 3: like at the airport Reports ad Ventry. They have fingerprint
Speaker 3: scanners now at a lot of these like entry kiosks. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the selfie isn't just a selfie.
Speaker 6: It's what's called a facial liveness scan, which is what
Speaker 6: we've spoken about before with CBP one right that like
Speaker 6: notoriously was very poor at capturing black faces.
Speaker 3: Generally, you sort of.
Speaker 6: Have to like move the phone around your face to
Speaker 6: check that it's like it's not me holding up a
Speaker 6: life sized copy of Garrison.
Speaker 3: It's actually Garrison, a three D Garrison.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the Garrison mannequin that we all
Speaker 6: got for Christmas last year.
Speaker 3: Can you can excuse that one to me? Sorry, it's
Speaker 3: not legal in New York.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this will make it a lot harder for people
Speaker 6: to apply for est divisas. It's going to create a massive,
Speaker 6: like dragnet of data for people applying for est visas.
Speaker 6: I'm guessing that kind of is the goal already, right, So, like,
Speaker 6: if you live in these countries, you don't always qualify
Speaker 6: for an esther. There are certain things you could have done,
Speaker 6: saying countries you could have been to certain like if
Speaker 6: you have a criminal record, et cetera, where there you
Speaker 6: wouldn't be able to get an esther. So this is
Speaker 6: kind of already a something of a like a pre
Speaker 6: vetted group and and countries who from which systems can
Speaker 6: apply for esters?
Speaker 3: Is that in itself? It's like a tea right now
Speaker 3: everyone in the world can apply for an esther. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's already a semi exclusive waiver with like a cost
Speaker 3: burden as well.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, it creates a massive data data mind
Speaker 6: which I'm guessing might be what they what they're going for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just the normalization of this sort of
Speaker 3: like social media scantting to identify, you know, undesirable political
Speaker 3: beliefs that Mark Rubio in the Department in the Department
Speaker 3: of State or DHS and deems it's like a national
Speaker 3: security threat. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have kind of my fringe fears that
Speaker 2: this will be used to train It's fair, but yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll say, yeah, how is this not going to be
Speaker 2: catastrophic for any business that relies on tourism, any state
Speaker 2: that relies on tourism, right, Like.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's not the top risk, but like
Speaker 2: it just seems again they're they're going out of their
Speaker 2: way to fuck over every single demographic in the country,
Speaker 2: which I don't think is going to work out for
Speaker 2: them in the long term.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a uh, this is yeah, this is a
Speaker 6: weird one for me because it's the Yeah, the economic
Speaker 6: cost is so obvious.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a catastrophe, And there's a part of
Speaker 2: me that's like, maybe this is a good thing, just
Speaker 2: because it's part of like, right, we've always known and
Speaker 2: have tried have been trying to say, for years, every
Speaker 2: single aspect, like they these people are bad for everybody.
Speaker 2: There's like one hundred and fifty people in the country
Speaker 2: who benefit from the policies that like the most extreme
Speaker 2: parts of the right wants to push, and everyone else
Speaker 2: is going to be completely fucked over by it, and
Speaker 2: we might as well just take the mask off. Like
Speaker 2: and maybe that's some of what we're seeing in the
Speaker 2: collapse of Trump's approval is people realizing, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: these guys really just want to destroy everything good about
Speaker 2: life like that.
Speaker 4: That is conservatism in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: We hate life and ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, that's that was the Democratic Party in
Speaker 2: that symptoms.
Speaker 3: But we want what's worse for everybody. There's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, talking of worse for everybody.
Speaker 6: Do we want to talk about the National Security Strategy
Speaker 6: document that the Trump administration released, go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should do a dedicated episode about that, but
Speaker 2: we could talk briefly about it.
Speaker 3: We have fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: That's not you saw fifteen Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've pulled a lot of quotations from it, and we're
Speaker 6: not gonna be able to discuss sort of them here.
Speaker 6: I think we will have to discuss this probably next
Speaker 6: year when we do the whole episode on it. It
Speaker 6: is one of the more like, especially in terms of
Speaker 6: like foreign relations, one of the more like. So this
Speaker 6: is our ideology, this is our outlook, and these are
Speaker 6: our goals documents that I've seen from this administration. Right,
Speaker 6: they talk about how I'll just quote from it here.
Speaker 6: American strategy since the end of the Cold War have
Speaker 6: fallen short. They have been laundry lists of wishes or
Speaker 6: desired end states, and have not clearly defined what we
Speaker 6: want be instead stated vague platitudes and have often misjudged
Speaker 6: what we should want. They talk about how they are
Speaker 6: going to retain soft power. Soft power people now familiar
Speaker 6: is a theory that Joseph Nye has an international relations
Speaker 6: It's a power to compel or persuade rather than to force. Right,
Speaker 6: the United States has been hemorrhaging soft power like someone
Speaker 6: with their artery cut, like in the last twelve months,
Speaker 6: like selft power is a fraction of what it was
Speaker 6: a year ago. I find it very odd to see
Speaker 6: them even mentioning that, to be honest, when like, I mean,
Speaker 6: they have soft power. If you're Victor Orban talking of orban.
Speaker 6: There's this incredible stuff about Europe. Here quote we want
Speaker 6: to support allies in preserving the freelom and security of
Speaker 6: Europe while restoring Europe's civilizational self confidence and Western identity
Speaker 6: rist another quote that's good, this is wild. The larger
Speaker 6: issues facing Europe include the activities of the European Union,
Speaker 6: other transnational bodies undermine political liberty and sovereignty, migration policies
Speaker 6: that are transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of
Speaker 6: free speech and suppression of political opposition, creating birth rates,
Speaker 6: and the loss of national identities and self confidence. Should
Speaker 6: present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in twenty
Speaker 6: years or less, and then a missing skipping of it.
Speaker 3: Here, we want Europe to remain European. This just sounds
Speaker 3: like your average like white nationalists like Twitter posts. Yeah, no, yes,
Speaker 3: it comes from Twitter, right, like very twitter brained like
Speaker 3: types of politics. Yeah.
Speaker 5: This guy has like a Greek statue avatar exactly.
Speaker 3: I think it's really fun to say think of Europe
Speaker 3: being like, I'm Europe. I have a lot of self
Speaker 3: confidence issues. I can't really speak up for myself in
Speaker 3: in in big groups like the European Union of Like,
Speaker 3: come on, what do you mean self confidence to grow up? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's wild.
Speaker 6: They're like, you know, they're they're saying that, like what
Speaker 6: European people don't have enough, like like what European pride?
Speaker 3: People don't respect my Western identity?
Speaker 6: Like okay, yeah, notably, like for instance, the country of France,
Speaker 6: a country which lacks self confidence and pride in its identity.
Speaker 3: This is this has been an issue for a long time.
Speaker 3: It's it's very funny to have this in like a U.
Speaker 3: This is like a US foreign policy or national security documentary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is like these are the guiding principles of
Speaker 6: our like foreign policy going forward.
Speaker 3: And they're like jerking off about like Europe remaining European.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, it's just like shit talking an entire continent.
Speaker 3: No, America should think Europe is gay and we should
Speaker 3: stay away from it. That's what our national security party
Speaker 3: should be, is Europe is gay. We don't want to
Speaker 3: deal with whatever Europe is doing. We're America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, leave us alone. Yeah that that ended really well
Speaker 2: for us in the Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, there's almost like a like a like an early
Speaker 6: twentieth century vibe to this document. They talk about the
Speaker 6: Monroe doctrine. Yeah, they do, And they talk about the
Speaker 6: Trump corollary to the Monroe doctrine, which they define as quote,
Speaker 6: we will deny non hemispheric competitors the ability to position
Speaker 6: forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control
Speaker 6: strategically vital assets in our hemisphere. Which the people aren't
Speaker 6: familiar with the Monroe doctrine. It's the US sort of
Speaker 6: has a right and obligation to exercise some control over
Speaker 6: the outcomes.
Speaker 3: So the entire Western.
Speaker 6: Hemisphere, like say Venezuela, Yes, that would be one example.
Speaker 3: Kearton. Yeah, see, it's totally different from Iraq because this
Speaker 3: is on our hemisphere. So it's good intervention actually mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Manifest destiny has given us the right to all of
Speaker 6: the Americas, and so we can we can intervene in
Speaker 6: outcomes there. There's a lot about thenation state in here,
Speaker 6: and like the idea that they quote unquote nation state
Speaker 6: should prioritize its own interests. I wonder what they're talking
Speaker 6: about there, because like we have many nations that are
Speaker 6: exclude different states all around the world, right, like the
Speaker 6: Kurds being one example, right, Like are they like are
Speaker 6: they saying that nations and states should always align, whilst
Speaker 6: like their special end Voyage of Syria is saying that
Speaker 6: he said this week the decentralization has never succeeded in
Speaker 6: the Middle East, which is a wild statement to be
Speaker 6: saying in a place where like you can drive in
Speaker 6: a single day to the sites of three different genocides
Speaker 6: from northeastern Syria, Right, you can see how the place
Speaker 6: where the Armenian genocide happened, the CD genocide and the
Speaker 6: on FH. Like you can do that driving the day,
Speaker 6: if you don't get hung up at the border.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, for now, if we're counting some
Speaker 2: of what was done against the.
Speaker 4: White yeah, yeah, that's a little unclear at the moment,
Speaker 4: but yeah, sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like to say that centralzation as the only way from
Speaker 6: the Middle East is a wild statement.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how some of this pans out.
Speaker 6: There's also a lot here on border security as national security, right, sure,
Speaker 6: I'm just going to read one. They use the word
Speaker 6: nation a lot. Nationalism was a subfielder by PhD. So obviously,
Speaker 6: like I'm interested in the exact understanding of nation they
Speaker 6: have here because there are several but throughout history, sovereign
Speaker 6: nations prohibited uncontrolled migration a grated citizenship only rarely to
Speaker 6: foreigners who also had to meet demanding criteria. The West
Speaker 6: experience over the past decades vindicates this enduring wisdom in
Speaker 6: country throughout the world, Mass migration as strained domestic resources,
Speaker 6: increased violence out of the crime, weakened social cohesion, distorted
Speaker 6: labor markets, and undermined national security. The era of mass
Speaker 6: migration must end. Border security is the primary element of
Speaker 6: national security.
Speaker 3: Great, this is the only terrain they have left because
Speaker 3: they've abandoned class interests and like exploitation. So the only
Speaker 3: thing they can actually focus this on, and they focus,
Speaker 3: like the focus the economy on is through nationalist immigration policies.
Speaker 3: This is like the last refuge for the right once
Speaker 3: they're still trying to appeal to some sort of populism
Speaker 3: but don't actually want to address real class conditions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and for a lot of the right, when they
Speaker 6: talk about nationalism, they are talking about ethno nationalism. The people,
Speaker 6: you know, the people are the nation, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: the vulk like which is not always blends. So nationalism,
Speaker 6: it's one type of nationalism. It's not all types of nationalism, right, Like.
Speaker 3: That's the cool thing about the United States, And this
Speaker 3: is the one country, one of the only countries where
Speaker 3: this that principle has been like opposed in vary degrees
Speaker 3: since the country is founding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it's supposed to be that the example, maybe
Speaker 6: along with France, right of like subscriptive nationalism, where nationalism
Speaker 6: was not an ethnic quality, it was subscribing to a
Speaker 6: set of values and belief philosophical idea. Yeah, that does
Speaker 6: not seem to be the vibe I'm picking up. There's
Speaker 6: a lot more in this document. They spend a decent
Speaker 6: part of its ship talking other document, other previous national
Speaker 6: security strategies.
Speaker 3: Yea, these are always good for both. But we're going
Speaker 3: to keep it brief and then off they go.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's it's worth us maybe doing
Speaker 6: the whole episode on because I think it's one of
Speaker 6: the more like coherent statements of believery. Not not a
Speaker 6: lot of this stuff is new. We knew that's how
Speaker 6: they thought about immigration.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear them talk about it on Fox on
Speaker 3: News Max. Like any Stephen Miller like public statement is
Speaker 3: you know it's going to talk about talk about how
Speaker 3: you know, immigration is changing, you know, the economic makeup
Speaker 3: of the country, and like the core identity of the
Speaker 3: country is changing, which to defend Western identity, that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 6: Yes, seeing it all written in document together, I think
Speaker 6: is where this has value totally. And I think, yeah,
Speaker 6: seeing that all laid out, seeing the you know, the
Speaker 6: way these things play into their view of the world,
Speaker 6: and then as I following what's actually happening in the world,
Speaker 6: and like, you know clearly that when they're talking, they're
Speaker 6: talking about the United States. When they're talking about nations, right,
Speaker 6: they're not talking about the Kurds, They're not talking about
Speaker 6: your Zds, the Catalans, other nations that have states.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's just so funny because they lay out all these
Speaker 3: economic things, right, straining domestic resources, violence and crime, weakened
Speaker 3: social cohesion, and and destroyed labor markets. Right, they lay
Speaker 3: out all of these things which have direct like like
Speaker 3: economic causal drivers. Yeah, and they're like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's actually not about these economic factors. It's just about immigration.
Speaker 3: Like they're so it's so blatant.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, other ideology and history escape go to a
Speaker 6: certain group for the economic disaster in a country that's
Speaker 6: never happened before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just one for one. If you go back
Speaker 5: to moish Postone's theory of like structural anti Semitism as
Speaker 5: the driver of the Holocaust, it's literally just this, right,
Speaker 5: except this is an even more blatant version of it.
Speaker 3: Seem like the Nazis, even though did try to do
Speaker 3: some like populist economic policies as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, the Strength through Joy program.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the modern American right doesn't even try to do that.
Speaker 3: It's just the immigration. They're not even doing like a
Speaker 3: weird like like right wing like socialized there.
Speaker 4: There's all this I'll push back.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of like the talk with oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a give every American thousand dollars that
Speaker 2: will be invested in that.
Speaker 4: Like there's they are like.
Speaker 3: They talk about it, they don't do it. They don't
Speaker 3: do it. They talk about it. Yes, sometimes, Yeah, he
Speaker 3: talked about a tariff check. Right, Trump was going to
Speaker 3: give every every Americans check. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: The first time they date during COVID, right, they threw
Speaker 6: some money around, but.
Speaker 3: There was that like, yeah, one or two stimulus checks
Speaker 3: we got at the end of COVID. Yeah, the end
Speaker 3: of a first you know, batch of the pandemic cycle
Speaker 3: to be more accurate. Yeah, yeah, Robbert, was there one
Speaker 3: other thing you wanted to talk about? We have time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is basically related to the Warner Brothers acquisition.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Reddit's algorithm will periodically give me little
Speaker 2: hints and bits of the war between Zack Snyder fans
Speaker 2: and the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know a lot about this. I know
Speaker 3: a lot about this.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big Zack Snyder fan, you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't care. Like I didn't feel strongly anti or pro.
Speaker 4: His his DC movies.
Speaker 2: There are some crazy people out there who believe and
Speaker 2: they are like reading the tea leaves. They think the
Speaker 2: Saudis are going to like kill his enemies, They're.
Speaker 3: Going to restore the Snyder for Strobert. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: this is I've been following this just as like a
Speaker 3: personal interest.
Speaker 4: For you nuts. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: They're fascinating people, like they're fascinating you.
Speaker 2: Unique people to study, Like the number of people who
Speaker 2: literally believe that it Like there should be people executed
Speaker 2: publicly for for not letting Zack Snyder finish his movies.
Speaker 4: That didn't make money.
Speaker 3: Is out because well because Netflix has part of with
Speaker 3: Snyder for you years. When when if Netflix takes over,
Speaker 3: they're obviously going to restore the Snyder Verse. James Gunn
Speaker 3: is going to be You're going.
Speaker 2: To restore the Snyder paramount, take over the saudis we
Speaker 2: can do it too.
Speaker 3: So it's it's really for Snyder bros. Things are looking up,
Speaker 3: So put your money in Snyder coin right now.
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite thing about that is that like as
Speaker 2: soon as they announced the deal, they were like, and
Speaker 2: James Gunn is staying, And they talked a lot about
Speaker 2: him on the call because like his movies are a
Speaker 2: big part of what makes what are valuable right now?
Speaker 2: Right Like he's good at making money for the people
Speaker 2: that he works for. And the level of conspiracy theories
Speaker 2: like no they have it's like, Q, it's great have
Speaker 2: to hide Zack Snyder's back because they can't let people.
Speaker 4: Know yet, but he's already been told.
Speaker 3: He's been doing this for like eight years.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I had not realized how crazy they were. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it. It's really fun.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 2: That that's I always enjoy encountering a new cult I
Speaker 2: think Zach is kind of taking advantage to them to
Speaker 2: get his insight follower account.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's very.
Speaker 2: Funny because he's like posting stuff that's like they're reading.
Speaker 2: Is like he's messaging that it's coming back. Even when
Speaker 2: guys like Ben afflecks like it was the worst. I
Speaker 2: hated being Batman. I would never do that again. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be It's I I love it. I
Speaker 2: just love seeing deranged people be arranged about something that's
Speaker 2: actually harmless for once. Yeah, we could get we could
Speaker 2: get a Snyder Verse related shooting. That's not impossible.
Speaker 3: Snyder does encourage it a little bit. But Snyder is not,
Speaker 3: I think, the villain of this story.
Speaker 2: And no, he's clearly friends with Gun like they're they're no.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, and I uh. Specifically, he has dropped his plans,
Speaker 3: which which he had for years, to do some eind
Speaker 3: randed adaptions, which I'm bummed about because I think Snyder's
Speaker 3: eind would be great, and instead instead he's writing this
Speaker 3: like this like lesbian movie with.
Speaker 4: Someone with tetah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so unfortunately we're trading iron Rand for like
Speaker 3: this like lesbian cinema slop, which I am.
Speaker 4: I am just lean I am really about because.
Speaker 3: I think I think Zack Snyder's Iron Rand would be
Speaker 3: a much more fascinating piece of art.
Speaker 2: No, No, I want to see Ben Shapiro get one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 4: That's what I've got.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, they bought exclusive TV rights to one of the
Speaker 3: one of the books I forget, forget if I forget if
Speaker 3: it was fountain Head or Atlas Shrugged. But since the
Speaker 3: Daily Wires like finances have collapsed, I do not think
Speaker 3: they're going forward with that right now.
Speaker 2: Oh but but gare the pendragonsight it's coming out though.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, right We got to watch that together. We
Speaker 2: gotta find it, we gotta we gotta have the company
Speaker 2: pay for us to meet in the Airbnb in a
Speaker 2: state and and just just watch that, son of a bit.
Speaker 3: If we want to this year to plan some kind
Speaker 3: of a cool zone convergence to to to watch uh,
Speaker 3: to watch the pen Dragon cycle together, I would I
Speaker 3: would hapily travel for that.
Speaker 4: I think we're ethically obligated to do that.
Speaker 5: Okay, final final closing note. Trans housing insecurity continuing to increase,
Speaker 5: But if you have an extra room, put a transperson in.
Speaker 5: If you have a couch, put a trans girl on
Speaker 5: your couch. This is going to be beas the message
Speaker 5: going forward. Jesus Christ. People just put a trans girl
Speaker 5: on your couch. You can figure out how to live together.
Speaker 5: It will be fine. People are going homeless and dying,
Speaker 5: please do this.
Speaker 2: Wait, is there like data on like what's what's Is
Speaker 2: this just as a result of like the continuing like
Speaker 2: people being forced out of their jobs?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is this is all this is.
Speaker 5: This is me finally talking about something I've been tracking
Speaker 5: for a very very long time, which is I mean
Speaker 5: I say a very long time. But you know, even
Speaker 5: over about the past four or five years, has been
Speaker 5: massive transmigration into places like Portland, into places like Chicago,
Speaker 5: into places like New York.
Speaker 3: They're getting housing in New York. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of transh housing in New York. I think this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's there's there's some regional aspects of this. Don't come
Speaker 3: to San Diego.
Speaker 2: We yeah, it make it makes sense that this cities
Speaker 2: that are safer having like a big influat and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people, those are also cities that do
Speaker 2: not have great housing supply.
Speaker 4: YEA yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nearly balloon.
Speaker 5: And there's been a lot of issues with it, and
Speaker 5: that's something that can be mitigated by just putting people
Speaker 5: on your couch.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's as a short terms maybe I
Speaker 3: don't honestly the couch thing freaks me out. As a
Speaker 3: long term solution.
Speaker 5: Well, but I mean that's the thing though, it doesn't
Speaker 5: have to be a long term.
Speaker 3: People have connections to help other people get jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they get like like pay pay a low amount
Speaker 3: of rent for like a room that's way more solid
Speaker 3: than like this like forever couch surfing thing that sometimes
Speaker 3: people like refer to as like quote unquote transhousing.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, but again, but the idea here is that there,
Speaker 5: and this is just something that I have running too extensively,
Speaker 5: is there are a bunch of people who basically just
Speaker 5: need to get out and need like a couple of
Speaker 5: months or a month to get back on their feet
Speaker 5: and don't have the ability to do it and are
Speaker 5: going homeless because of that, and it's killing people and
Speaker 5: fucking sucks. Yeah, and that is something that can be
Speaker 5: mitigated with sort of cultural shifts towards sharing space more.
Speaker 5: And we're all gonna have to do it more because
Speaker 5: the economy is about to collapse even more so.
Speaker 4: Great fun.
Speaker 5: Yay, put transcoll on your couch.
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