WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #45

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<v Speaker 1>Old Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, everybody, this is an emergency episode of It

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<v Speaker 2>Could Happen Here. We're dropping everything else for the most

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<v Speaker 2>important breaking news in the country. Andy Dick has overdosed

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<v Speaker 2>in public in the city of Los Angeles. Thankfully, in

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<v Speaker 2>preparation for this, we've had our entire team deployed to

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<v Speaker 2>the areas around Andy Dick's home. James, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any updates on the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not sure who Andy Dick is. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>like a public figure in about I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Planned this out better.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Dick is America's sweetheart and he's going through some

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<v Speaker 2>troubled times.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They narcand him in public. No, it's Andy Dick's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>This is entirely on Andy Dick. Yeah, well, good on

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<v Speaker 2>the past and who had not Kerry Narkan. No, one

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<v Speaker 2>should never feel sorry for Andy Dick. I feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>for the Narkan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is It could Happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 3>news cast covering what's happening in the White House, the

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<v Speaker 3>crumbling world, and Andy Dick. I'm Garrison Davis this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm joined by do we refer to someone? The first time,

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<v Speaker 3>we only used the last name Garrison. Yeah, I'm joined

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<v Speaker 3>by being James Shout, Robert Evans, and Sophy Lichter. We

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<v Speaker 3>are covering the week of December fourth, December tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the big stories of the last week

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<v Speaker 2>or so is something that would seem would be unequivically

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing in any other political climate, which is

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix buying Warner Brothers and contributing to the shrinking ever

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<v Speaker 2>further of like America's like the number of people who

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<v Speaker 2>actually own all of the media that Americans consume.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, monopolization is obviously bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this case, I mean it's it's it's bad

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<v Speaker 2>that that end. It's probably better that Netflix buy it

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<v Speaker 2>than Paramount by it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so I.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess I'm like, well, okay, it's going to be working.

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<v Speaker 5>Creditor versus alien situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really a weird situation, right, because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people are really dooming about Netflix acquiring Warner Brothers

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<v Speaker 3>and what that'll mean for like, you know, art and

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, theatrical model of film distribution, and then

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<v Speaker 3>not realizing that Paramount's counterbid based on Saudi money, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>would place Warner Brothers in the control of one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most Trump aligned like media enterprises in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, so let's let's let's roll back a second

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<v Speaker 5>and look at what is actually going on here. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's actually very important to note this is being recorded

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<v Speaker 5>on Wednesday's Zeber tenth. This whole situation is changing extremely quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>There could be some another unhinged thing could have happened

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<v Speaker 5>by the time you're listening to this. But the basics

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<v Speaker 5>here is that Paramount which was recently acquired by sky Dance.

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<v Speaker 5>Which is which direction did that acquisition go?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, technically.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking was a merger, but it was really but it

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<v Speaker 5>was Skydance taking control of Paramount. Skydance had been run

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<v Speaker 5>by Larry Ellison's son, David Ellison.

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<v Speaker 3>David.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So, and this is this is this is this

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<v Speaker 5>is the regime that sort of imposed Barry Weiss on CBS,

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<v Speaker 5>which has become increasingly right wing under her quote unquote leadership.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to do a full episode about this. I

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<v Speaker 5>think on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be tuning into the Charlie Kirka Erica kirktown

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<v Speaker 3>Hall on CBS this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh God, they can't make me. I will have recorded

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<v Speaker 5>this episode before they did this. I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 5>tuning in because it looks phenomenal, so it's worth putting out.

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<v Speaker 5>So Larry Ellison, who is the father of David Ellison,

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<v Speaker 5>is one of the most terrifying of all of the

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<v Speaker 5>right wing billionaires. Yeah, he's kind of more quiet than

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<v Speaker 5>someone like Andresen or Elon Musk about being a unhinged

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<v Speaker 5>right wing fanatic. But he's one of Trump's biggest spporters.

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<v Speaker 5>He has a whole thing about how everyone's inevitably going

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<v Speaker 5>to be under total concerts or avenalllists that will make

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<v Speaker 5>everyone behave Well, we'll cover this more later. But the

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<v Speaker 5>Ellison's the father son Ellison duo and paramounts backed by

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<v Speaker 5>the Saudis Abu Dabi Catterer.

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<v Speaker 2>They want Bugs Bunny desperately because he keeps My sources

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<v Speaker 2>are saying he keeps pranking Mohammed Ben Salmon.

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<v Speaker 3>By cross dressing. Yeah, and it's really Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire Saudi military is incapable of stopping Bugs Bunny,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, bet for taking him down.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what's what's an interesting fact in these

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<v Speaker 3>various bids for control of Warner Brothers. The Netflix deal

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<v Speaker 3>does not include CNN. The Paramount deal does.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, before we get into that, we should we should

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<v Speaker 5>say what Paramount is doing now, which is Paramounts on

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<v Speaker 5>Monday began to try to just do a hostle takeover

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<v Speaker 5>by just straight up buying out the shares at what

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<v Speaker 5>they're claiming is the higher share price. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 5>lot of complicated stuff yeah about share pricing here that

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<v Speaker 5>you don't really care about.

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<v Speaker 2>And there have been so many dishonest headlines, like one

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<v Speaker 2>being like Paramount lost the bid by just seventy five cents.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy five cents to share. That's like hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Scats And that's not even it's it's all, it's all ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the Wall Street Journal has been getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the information about this. We've gotten to a point on

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<v Speaker 5>Wednesday where investors are going to the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 5>and being like, there's gonna be a bidding war. There's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be a bidding war. But the Wall stretjournle points out,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think this is an interesting thing here that's

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<v Speaker 5>important to say. These hostile takeover attempts almost never work.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like thirty percent of the time. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>like sub thirty percent that these that these things kind

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<v Speaker 5>of work. But the other card that the Father's son

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<v Speaker 5>Ellison duo have is claiming that Trump is more likely

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<v Speaker 5>to back Paramount's buyout than the Netflix one because Trump

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<v Speaker 5>can sort of stop this through anti trust or quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote anti trust stuff. Per Axios, Jared Kushner's consultancy firm

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<v Speaker 5>is part of Paramount's buyout plan, and per Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 5>David Ellison met with Trump with Trump administration officials in

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<v Speaker 5>quote recent days and has offered to you know, this

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<v Speaker 5>this comes back to what Garrison was saying about CNN

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<v Speaker 5>being part about part of this package. They have been

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<v Speaker 5>offering to effectively do to CNA what they did to CBS,

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<v Speaker 5>which is put it under the control of the right

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<v Speaker 5>wing fanatic and turn it into a propaganda pure propaganda outlet.

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<v Speaker 5>This is you know, obviously corruption of a sort of

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<v Speaker 5>mind blowing yeah. Yeah, and a broad to the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that like our quote unquote free press is literally just

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<v Speaker 5>for sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazingly, this is not this doesn't seem to be working, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and Trump has spoken positively about Netflix and

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<v Speaker 3>the Netflix CEO the past few days.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's also speaking negatively about both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both the Netflix heard negatively about Ellison recently. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a quote from an article I found

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<v Speaker 2>uh in the Wall Street Journal. Trump is so far

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<v Speaker 2>avoided publicly backing a bitter None of them are particularly

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<v Speaker 2>great friends of mine, he said at a White House

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<v Speaker 2>round table on Monday. A person close to Trump said

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<v Speaker 2>the President will want Paramount and Netflix to compete for

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<v Speaker 2>his approval of a deal, which does sound very Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and apparently the specific thing he's mad at Paramount

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<v Speaker 5>about is for having Mergory Taylor Green on CBSS.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, he's It's really funny.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no amount of sort of ass kissing that

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<v Speaker 5>you can do to actually make Trump consistently be on

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<v Speaker 5>your side. It's really hideous.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all disgusting, unless unless you give him the

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<v Speaker 3>FIFO World Peace Prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Troy, Yeah, he'll die for FIFA now. Yeah, can

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<v Speaker 4>I just say fuck me?

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually renaming American football to soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>God, I love the FIFA trophy because it looks disgusting trophy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I have fifteen minutes on that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just all those hands grasping that ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, really genuinely one of the one of the most

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<v Speaker 6>impressive actors sports sick fantasy since nineteen thirty three.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it doesn't seem like Trump is as keen

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<v Speaker 3>to back Paramount's bid as what some of the Paramount

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<v Speaker 3>people thought he might be. The Netflix deal might just

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<v Speaker 3>end up actually going through.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, and we'll see about this. This is all

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<v Speaker 5>going to change probably by the time you're reading this

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<v Speaker 5>or listening to this. That's that's the one that you do.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's so cool that we live in an economy

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<v Speaker 5>where your two options are Netflix destroys Film forever and

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<v Speaker 5>the Nazis gain control of CNN. It's great, great system. Yeah, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Notes, And what what would really be damaging if if

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<v Speaker 3>Paramount's able to buy Warner Brothers is that then they

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<v Speaker 3>would be in charge of Nathan Fielder's rehearsal, which which

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<v Speaker 3>does which does target the fascistic Paramount regime. Yeah, James,

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<v Speaker 3>what's some what's some small news stories we can uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we can go with here before our first break.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, I'm operating on a couple of computers here,

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<v Speaker 6>So this is gonna I'm gonna have to work around

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<v Speaker 6>some constraints.

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<v Speaker 6>and Iraq, and I fucking love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>an AI slop tried to put the Timberland logo.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>have fake five eleven shit, I have a collection of it.

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<v Speaker 6>love that it started as a rock climbing brand in

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<v Speaker 6>New Smite and now it is a lifestyle brand in Syria.

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<v Speaker 3>It's perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you, I missed my Adodus tracksuit that I got.

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<v Speaker 6>A I got some. I've got some Merle boots as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that ship. I got a fake Gourban knife

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<v Speaker 6>graber that that Yeah, yeah, bullshit bullshit knives.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's one of my face because putting up women's

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<v Speaker 5>hats very soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, let's talk about the news. So this is

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<v Speaker 6>a fun one. Schrodink is permit going to call it.

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<v Speaker 6>In Pensacola, somebody participating in Food not Bombs was arrested

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<v Speaker 6>Following that, at a press conference, the city announced that

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<v Speaker 6>a person was arrested for being in a park too late, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess in Florida, of course, yeah, this is this

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<v Speaker 6>is the most serious crime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and also.

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<v Speaker 6>Giving food to poor people, which is probably like a

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<v Speaker 6>felony in Florida. So the city then announced issue have

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<v Speaker 6>been resolved because there had been there was a permit

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<v Speaker 6>issued to Food not Bombs for them.

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<v Speaker 3>To be in the park late and give people food.

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<v Speaker 6>Food not Bombs did not apply for the permit, nor

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<v Speaker 6>do they want the permit, right, there's no kind of

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<v Speaker 6>That's not how Food on Bombs works. Food not Bombs

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<v Speaker 6>is an is it action? Non entity? Right like it

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<v Speaker 6>is a protest action. The city is now reviewing if

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<v Speaker 6>the permit is releasable under public records laws so someone

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<v Speaker 6>can find out who attempted to white Knight food not bombs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>some of the suggestions as there's a guy who runs

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<v Speaker 6>some kind of we will cooperate with the cops to

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<v Speaker 6>get people of fentanyl charity, which uses some incredible AI

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<v Speaker 6>imagery on its Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I will keep you updated on this, this

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<v Speaker 6>Florida story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks for that. James.

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<v Speaker 6>In the Oregon versus Trump case regarding National Guard deployment,

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<v Speaker 6>Judge J. Biby, not normally a guy associated with WOKE,

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<v Speaker 6>a George W. Bush appointee, has penned an extensive opinion

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<v Speaker 6>I think of sixty four pages on the domestic violence

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<v Speaker 6>clause at the Constitution and how it ought.

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<v Speaker 3>To restrain the use of the Guard.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's like a different argument than we've seen previously, right,

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<v Speaker 6>in discussions about the National Guards, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've read the other judge opinion pieces, but not

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<v Speaker 3>this one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So Biby's been been in it for a while, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>he's been someone who has previously not really been an

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<v Speaker 6>opponent of what I might see as of overreach in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of state power and violence. But yeah, using this

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<v Speaker 6>this is a different clause to the Constitution, right, So

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<v Speaker 6>it's now moving along in that discussion yesterday as we

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<v Speaker 6>were recording this, so that would be on Tuesday at

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<v Speaker 6>the ninth. The Democrats, how they buy cameral shadow quote

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<v Speaker 6>unquote shadow hearing on the detention of US citizens by

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<v Speaker 6>DHS that doesn't really have the power to do much.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have not had time to listen to the

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<v Speaker 6>entire recording because it was only streamed on Facebook. I

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<v Speaker 6>love that we have an opposition in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>God, I love the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're really I like how together they've got it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like after a rough patch, they're really firing out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like a phoenix from the Ashes have an absolute

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<v Speaker 6>ass whipping in the election.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, like an ass phoenix exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, ass Phoenix. That's that's my band. Actually, I can't

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<v Speaker 6>believe that you plugged us on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's ongoing barrage of hate about Somali people has been

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<v Speaker 6>met with some incredible posting. People who are not on

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<v Speaker 6>x dot com will have missed this, but like genuinely

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<v Speaker 6>some of the funniest response to some of the most

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<v Speaker 6>hateful shit. Like Trump and Miller have both been on

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<v Speaker 6>a guess Fox News. Fox News went to Minneapolis and

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<v Speaker 6>heard a call to prayer and had a meltdown about it.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is this campaign, I guess by Trump and

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<v Speaker 6>Miller is very much ongoing. We spoke about that last

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<v Speaker 6>week with the TBS, and people aren't familiar, they can

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<v Speaker 6>check that out last week. Yeah, Aileen Higgins won the

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<v Speaker 6>Miami mayoral election. Do I want to make a pit Bull.

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<v Speaker 4>Joke the dog you're talking about, mister worldwide.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we could do. Margat is a major issue. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just trying to work on that acronym.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always thinking about mister worldwide, James. He's never far

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<v Speaker 2>from my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I often think about Pitbull and how he and

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<v Speaker 6>Hillary Clinton often were exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, they have a lot in common. Actually, the

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<v Speaker 2>primary thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Miami, Yes, mister, yeah, yeah, yes, But this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first time a Democrat has won the mayoral office

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<v Speaker 3>in Miami in almost thirty years, which is this is

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<v Speaker 3>wild significant.

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<v Speaker 5>This is astonishing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I guess was like a pretty decent win.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a runoff election, but it's still a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>pretty substantial win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think there's a few important notes here. One

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<v Speaker 5>is that even the Miami Cuba demographics swung massively towards

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<v Speaker 5>the Democrats, which is sort of apocalyptic news for the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 5>Stas really, really bad. If you're losing the Miami Cuban population.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have got Miami Cubans to think critically about politics,

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<v Speaker 2>things are dire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And the other thing here too, is that the Florida

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<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party, like I would compare them to clowns, but

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<v Speaker 5>like these these motherfuckers make Bobo the Clown look like

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<v Speaker 5>fucking Napoleon. These are the most some of the most

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<v Speaker 5>incompetent people in the entire history of politics, and the

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans are losing to them. That's astonishing. There were a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of other results like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this week, Democrats flipped a Georgia State House seat.

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<v Speaker 3>The seat moved blue by twenty two points.

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<v Speaker 4>Geez yep.

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<v Speaker 5>They flipped Albuquerque City Council. There's all of these little results,

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<v Speaker 5>and this has been happening basically since we got the

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<v Speaker 5>first special elections of the Trump administration, where the Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>are losing like R plus twenty two districts. They're getting

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<v Speaker 5>destroyed in places that it shouldn't be possible for them

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<v Speaker 5>to lose and this is another major confirmation of the

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<v Speaker 5>media everyone hates them theory. Every day it gets more

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<v Speaker 5>and more validated. Everyone can hate them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Last a small news story that I think is

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<v Speaker 3>worth mentioning because it's a I think pretty important. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>conservative podcaster Benny Johnson is threatening to sue Milo Theanopolis

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<v Speaker 3>for alleging that he is gay. So we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>keeping up with this story pretty close. I know this

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot of ramifications for listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, cool, we should do ads. We're back and

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the January sixth pipe bomb guy suspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, we know there's a person. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that it was a guy. We know someone playing

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<v Speaker 2>for those pipe bombs. I'm going to talk about the suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start just for a little bit by

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<v Speaker 2>again talking about the degree to which I really hope

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<v Speaker 2>this is apocalyptic for the Blaze. Yeah, what they did

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<v Speaker 2>is a case study and what you should never do

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<v Speaker 2>as a publication. It was unethical, it was idiotic, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was deeply dangerous. And if the Capitol police officer

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<v Speaker 2>does not sue them, I don't know what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>advice she's getting other than maybe just sheer terror at

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<v Speaker 2>the number of death threats she's already received. But like ma'am,

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<v Speaker 2>getting all of Glennbeck's money is the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>will keep you safe right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Please do it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you you were out last week when we

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<v Speaker 3>when we got the like some the very first reporting

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<v Speaker 3>on the pipe bomb arrests.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, is the only thing I regret about

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<v Speaker 2>my vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but very little information was out last week, and

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<v Speaker 3>we have more information now regarding the alleged January sixth

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<v Speaker 3>pipe bomber, or technically January fifth pipe bomber, who is

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<v Speaker 3>now charged with transporting an explosive device with attempt to kill,

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<v Speaker 3>injure or damaged property, and attempted malicious destruction by means

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<v Speaker 3>of fire and explosive materials. According to court records, the

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<v Speaker 3>FBI identified the suspect through cell tower records, license plate readers,

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<v Speaker 3>and purchases of potential bomb making materials, including the pipes,

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<v Speaker 3>the cap ends, the wires, steel, and nine volt batteries.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't appear that they gained possession of new information,

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<v Speaker 3>but by changing the agents looking at the information, they

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<v Speaker 3>were able to piece piece this together to actually make

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<v Speaker 3>inaction on it, leading to the arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a classic FBI story of they had all

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<v Speaker 2>the information they needed to have caught this guy very

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<v Speaker 2>long ago and did not yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, or lack the ability to like put the piece

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<v Speaker 3>together in a way that makes them able to do

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<v Speaker 3>the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>But as is always the case, this was not an

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<v Speaker 2>issue if they didn't have enough access to information. There

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<v Speaker 2>was too much ENCRYPTI you know, they need more power. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they had everything they needed. They just didn't think right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what it was. They weren't thinking right, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, very little has come out officially about the alleged

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<v Speaker 3>bomber's potential motivation.

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<v Speaker 4>Who may be innocent, let's be clear, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing alluding to his motivation in the charging documents

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<v Speaker 3>besides just an interest, a year's long interest in bombmaking,

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<v Speaker 3>starting in twenty nineteen and continuing into like twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now NBC has reported based on sources inside the law

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement investigation team, but Embassy's reported that before the suspect

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<v Speaker 3>acquired an attorney, he confessed to investigators and told the

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<v Speaker 3>FBI that he believed in twenty twenty election conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 3>But some new information from the New York Post, which

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<v Speaker 3>I have verified may have actually cracked this story wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>They have learned that the suspect is a brony. My

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<v Speaker 3>Little Pony fan draws a lot of actually relatively good

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<v Speaker 3>quality My Little Pony fan art and writes fins my

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<v Speaker 3>Little Pony fan fiction. I could read some.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Garrison, what is the quality of their fan fiction? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just just give us like fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll read a paragraph. Quote Apple Bloom's eyes. It snapped open,

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<v Speaker 3>and she sat up in her bed, panting heavily and

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<v Speaker 3>sweat dripping from her red mane. It was another bad

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<v Speaker 3>dream about that village she had discovered back in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ever Free Forest sunny Town. At first, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>a normal, peaceful little village, kind of like Ponyville. What

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<v Speaker 3>was strange was that none of the inhabitants had cutie marks.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, they hadn't the slightest clue as to what

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<v Speaker 3>a cutie mark was.

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<v Speaker 4>So could you send me that link? Could? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll actually, I'll send this to the entire team chat.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm demanding hazard pay at the next union negotiations. Hazard pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, like, this is very standard, but relatively good quality.

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<v Speaker 3>My Little Pony brony activity non sexual entirely like. I've

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<v Speaker 3>looked at a lot of this guy's art. It's fairly clear, pros,

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<v Speaker 3>fairly high quality. My Little Pony fan are in a

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<v Speaker 3>variety of styles from different earros at the show. Not

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<v Speaker 3>like a sexually fetishistic depiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait to see the headlines from this. Yeah, cool

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<v Speaker 2>Zone host defends Capital bipe bombers pros.

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<v Speaker 3>But no like. A high school classmate told Washington Post

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<v Speaker 3>that he was bullied for having a My Little Pony

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<v Speaker 3>backpack in school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had this interest for quite a while, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>kind of tapered off a few years before before the bombing,

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<v Speaker 3>But for a while this was like kind of one

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<v Speaker 3>of his main hobbies. On a Tumblr profile, he lists

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<v Speaker 3>his interest as quote hardcore music, video games, mainly horror, drawing,

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<v Speaker 3>improving myself philosophically, and anime. Unquote. Well, his grandmother has

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<v Speaker 3>described him as quote almost autistic, like because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>understand a lot of stuff. Unquote. He's only ever worked

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<v Speaker 3>for the family bail bond business.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, look, I'll say this, he wasn't bad

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<v Speaker 2>like he kind of had a future in a private

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<v Speaker 2>security or something like that, like not bad op set

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<v Speaker 2>as it turned out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>A funny slash A dark thing is that in the

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<v Speaker 3>right wing just desperate effort to make everything about trans people,

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<v Speaker 3>they have turned this Brony thing into like a you

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<v Speaker 3>know the trans people also like my little pony and

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<v Speaker 3>like Bronie and like like quotes from like psychologists in

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<v Speaker 3>some of these articles about how how how Bronie is

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<v Speaker 3>like play with like gender boundaries spy by being fans

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<v Speaker 3>of like a girl's like a like a property that's

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<v Speaker 3>usually enjoyed by girls. So there's like a like attempt

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<v Speaker 3>to try to kind of paint this and like in

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<v Speaker 3>like a pseudo translate, but that's not getting much traction

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<v Speaker 3>because like people know what Broni's are, and like, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this, this whole strategy is on the out

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<v Speaker 3>in some ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, am I am I incorrect here because I had

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<v Speaker 2>just caught this, but I didn't Actually this is like

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<v Speaker 2>while I was on vacation, I had heard that he

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<v Speaker 2>expressed a belief that the twenty twenty election was stolen

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<v Speaker 2>from Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's we see do we know if that's accurate. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So he does seem to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been reported by the NBC that he told investigators

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<v Speaker 3>that he believed in like twenty twenty election conspiracy theories. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that were spread by Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean it seems like from what we have,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the more predictable ones. And like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>if this is like a weird right wing you know, Bronie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the first time right wing Bronie has

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<v Speaker 2>done something violent.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't seem super political in my opinion, Like none

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<v Speaker 3>of his own activity points towards a deep interest in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but if he said he thought the election was stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>then that is makes sense as being a contributing fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a factor perhaps, but not a huge like

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<v Speaker 3>online presence that revolves around politics. Like a lot of

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 3>people who aren't super into politics maybe thought the election

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<v Speaker 3>was like stolen or like rigged.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as we try to point out periodically, the

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<v Speaker 2>vast majority of people who will carry out a shooting

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<v Speaker 2>or other act of mass public violence in the US

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<v Speaker 2>are going to have more in common with other people

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<v Speaker 2>who do that than anyone specifically, just in political terms

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, because most of them are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's their shooter stands there, they're that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is their special interest bombings or whatever he.

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<v Speaker 3>Does seem to have, Like it's a lot of special interests, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It used to be my little ponies, then it became

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<v Speaker 3>bomb making that just seemed to be a special interest

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<v Speaker 3>of his for like three or four years. Was just

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<v Speaker 3>like the practice of bomb making. This is just just

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<v Speaker 3>something he got like into, And I think that's more

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<v Speaker 3>of a motivating force and like a specific partisan political motivation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's really funny, like reflecting on a

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<v Speaker 3>a statement that that that law enforcement leaked last week

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<v Speaker 3>saying that he had like anarchist like leanings, which is

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<v Speaker 3>very very amusing now in light of in light of

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<v Speaker 3>all of that, for.

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<v Speaker 6>A long time, they have used anarchism to mean like

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<v Speaker 6>a predilection for violence or chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't less like the government, right, Like, yeah, part of

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<v Speaker 2>this is just the way people tend to use the

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<v Speaker 2>term anarchism. When I was doing my research for like

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear Doomstate device episodes, there's a bunch of otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>great pieces that are like and then in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake of a global nuclear war, society will collapse

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<v Speaker 2>and all that will be left is anarchy. It's like, guys, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not anarchy. That's that's going to be the problem

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<v Speaker 2>that like, like you realize that the cause of.

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<v Speaker 3>A nuclear war is like yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this, Yeah, it's it is not an anarchy as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to nuclear war I'm worried about.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, Yeah, yeah, venue clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm worried about like democracy, fucking authoritarian as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>worried about all of those things. Anarchists would never have

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<v Speaker 2>built the nuclear dooms dat advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, It's why I used left libertarian sometimes in my

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<v Speaker 6>academic writing, because.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just the term.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just not comprehensible, especially someone coming having been raised

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<v Speaker 6>on US media.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the wake of a global nuclear war, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be lucky to get some anarchy because it probably means

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<v Speaker 2>someone's found some food and it's cooking it for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah food no bombs on like food off.

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<v Speaker 6>They've rebranded, but that's still going food common.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bomb was actually done with bombs.

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<v Speaker 5>We did it. Yeah, we replaced the bots of food.

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<v Speaker 3>One other update I'll squeeze in here quick it's short. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week, the Supreme Court ruled that Texas can use

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<v Speaker 3>its newly drawn congressional map in the upcoming twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six midterms, likely adding five Republican seats. The lower court order,

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<v Speaker 3>which found the new map was racially gerrymannered intentionally has

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<v Speaker 3>It's been stayed indefinitely as the Supreme Court prepares to

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<v Speaker 3>consider whether to overturn the lower court's ruling entirely, a

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<v Speaker 3>process which could take months go well into the midterm cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Supreme Court authorized the use of that new

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<v Speaker 3>map for this next election.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking of fan fiction and covers of things, here is

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 6>a song that was originally the worst song by the

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<v Speaker 6>Clash and now it's about tariffs, rocking.

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<v Speaker 7>Jazz righty jazz boy Jazz right jazz Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the cover is of a similar quality as

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<v Speaker 3>the alleged bomber's fan art in my opinion, Dear God,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of good twilight sparkle stuff that he

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<v Speaker 3>was strong. Come sorry, So all right.

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<v Speaker 5>China is technically once again buying American soybeans. Is part

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<v Speaker 5>of the sort of giant trade deal that Chi Jiping

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<v Speaker 5>and Trump negotiated. But come up it is not buying

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<v Speaker 5>soybeans at the rate that the White House said it

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<v Speaker 5>would in the fact sheet that was released by the

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<v Speaker 5>White House about the negotiations. This is a huge problem

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<v Speaker 5>because farmers are still not being able to sell enough

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<v Speaker 5>soybeans to not get completely fucked, and the White House

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<v Speaker 5>is now putting out a bunch of statements saying, oh no,

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<v Speaker 5>we actually screwed up the fact sheet. They said that

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<v Speaker 5>they would buy the soybeans not before the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the year, before at the end of like the growing season.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good, that's good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So, And the other solution to this has been

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<v Speaker 5>a twelve billion dollar farmer bailout, which is funny because

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 5>he did a twelve billion dollar farm bailout in his

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 5>first term when exactly the same thing happened and it

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<v Speaker 5>didn't really do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at least we're not bailing out let's say Argentina.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Funny example, Gars, what makes you choose that one?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>God? Yeah. So. The issue with this farmer's bailout is

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<v Speaker 5>and this is something that farmers have been saying through

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 5>all of the trade press, any regular press. They can

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 5>get access to every local media outlet, every single farmer

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 5>who anyone has interviewed has gone, we don't want to

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 5>bail out. We want to be able to sell our

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 5>blasted soybeans, and they still can't. And this is, you know,

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 5>a becoming a real problem for this administration that even

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 5>after their giant negotiations to get tried out of by soybeans,

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 5>they still can't do it. And farmers are continuing to

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 5>be very very piss off about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are my beans? Yeah, they're sitting in the silos.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 3>They're still there. They can't sell them.

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<v Speaker 6>How am I going to keep up my soy consumption

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 6>and goin it befless to become a I know what

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 6>other vegan options era, some other kind of boy, I guess.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, we'll just have to get it from Brazilians.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>That brazil mentioned. Everyone cheer, Hey, they don't good these days?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, hasn't there been some Bolsonnaro news recently? I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 4>There has been. Let's roll to ads and then we'll

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 4>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, this has been Urfuck.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back, and you know who's not free to listen

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to podcasts?

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 4>Hear Bolsonnaro, We can hope.

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<v Speaker 2>After trying to cut off his ankle monitor, he has

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>been taken into custody for attempting or probably trying to escape.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Trump had made comments about it, expecting to see him soon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I think he's gonna die in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not doing well. I will say one thing we

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>got to do. You know, back when he got stabbed,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone's opinion on it was like, oh, fuck,

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you've just you know, you've made him a martyr. You

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>got to look cool and seem like a badass. This

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>has done nothing but empower him.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it cares. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that stab did a lot of damage, Like that

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>ruined his life, low key. Yeah, So thoughts and prayers

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>to that guy wherever he is. You know, we just

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize the level of game that you had, my man.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean it's it's it's tough. I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>used to have the two like of the world sickest men,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Bolsonnaro and Stephen Crowder, just fighting it out to see

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 3>who would stay sicker for a long But Jordan Peterson

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 3>that seems like erasia. Yeah, he's taking the spot because

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.239
<v Speaker 3>he's still vanished from the Daily Wire because of his

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>like bizarre His.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Daughter says he's basically dead.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like patient zero for CWD and humans or something. Right,

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Like the Daily Wire still is acting like Peterson's is

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 3>like still a person.

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it turns out Cold Turkey quitting Benzos via a

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>fucking coma in Russia is a bad call.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Crowder, I did watch the two hours Stephen

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Crowder Nick Fuentez interview this week. Oh God, and it

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>was really uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll bet I can imagine.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 3>They were just like jerking each other off for two hours.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Nick was trying to be nice and like not act

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 3>like Steven's this like like totally irrelevant like boomer, and

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Stephen was trying to make Nick think he was cool,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was so painful to watch the entire time. Wat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was.

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>It was bad. There was nothing else notable from that.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess let's actually move to some notable notable stories

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<v Speaker 3>to close this episode.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I want to talk about the case of

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<v Speaker 6>Fustino Pablo Pablo. A US District court in El Paso,

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<v Speaker 6>Texas has granted mister Pablo Pablo a tentative restraining order

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<v Speaker 6>directing the government to return him to the United States

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<v Speaker 6>by the twelfth of this month, which will be the

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 6>day that you are hearing this episode. Mister Pablo Pablo

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 6>entered the USA in twenty twelve and was found removal

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 6>by a judge. However, that judge granted his application for

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<v Speaker 6>withholding of removal under the Convention against Torture because he

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 6>would likely be tortured if he was returned to Guatemala,

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 6>which is where from In theory, he was removable therefore

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<v Speaker 6>to a place where he would not likely be tortured. Right,

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 6>this is what we've seen the US government doing more

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 6>and more in the last year. Really, he spent more

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 6>than a decade. He moved to California, attended his ICE

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 6>check ins until he was detained an ICE check in

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 6>on the fifth of November. Mister Pablo Pablo's lawyer filed

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<v Speaker 6>a habeas petition and asked the court to enjoin ICE

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 6>from removing him from the Western District of Texas, which

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 6>is where they took him on the seventeenth of November. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>so he was detained on the fifth. People who listened

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 6>to my immigration series a couple of weeks ago will

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 6>be familiar with this. Right, people were detained in La

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 6>ferried all around California, and then sent to Texas.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 3>This is what happened in his case.

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<v Speaker 6>He wouldn't have been sent to the same place for

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 6>people in my serious work, because that's for family detention.

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 6>By the time the court ordered the government not to

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 6>remove him, they had already sent him back to Guatemala,

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 6>just to cover There is one country in the world

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 6>that he has withholding of removal to because he will

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 6>be tortured there most likely, and that is where they

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 6>sent him. The government conceded that they had made a

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 6>mistake and said they quote tentatively scheduled a flight for

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 6>the fourth of December. He did not take that flight.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 6>As far as we know, he is doing water Mala.

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 6>He's in hiding and the court has ordered that the

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 6>government facilitate his return by the twelfth of this month,

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 6>so we'll probably update you on that in next week's ed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk about an expansion of social media monitoring,

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<v Speaker 3>which we've already seen for visa applicants, but now expanding

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<v Speaker 3>out to tourists as well. Customs of Border Protection and

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<v Speaker 3>DHS have posted a sixty day notice for a proposal

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<v Speaker 3>to revise the Electronics system for Travel Authorization Application, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a waiver that some foreign tourists can use to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid getting a tourist visa, and the proposal is to

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<v Speaker 3>add mandatory social media collection for all foreign tourists using

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<v Speaker 3>the ESTA visa waiver. This proposal would require that applicants

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<v Speaker 3>provide the social media information from the past five years,

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<v Speaker 3>citing a January Executive order quote protecting the United States

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<v Speaker 3>from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>threats un quote. This would match the sort of social

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 3>media monitoring we've seen applied to some visa applicants and immigrants,

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<v Speaker 3>just now extending out to tourists using the ESTA application,

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<v Speaker 3>and to comply with this January Executive order, CBP is

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<v Speaker 3>also planning to add quote several high value data fields

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<v Speaker 3>to the ESTA application when feasible unquote. This would include

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<v Speaker 3>quote telephone numbers used in the last five years, email

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<v Speaker 3>address is used in the last ten years, IP addresses

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 3>and metadata from electronically submitted photos, family member names, parents, spouse, siblings, children,

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>family telephone numbers used in the last five years, family

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 3>member dates of birth, family member places of birth, family

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 3>member residences, biometric face, fingerprint, DNA and IRIS, business telephone

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 3>numbers used in the last five years, and business email

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<v Speaker 3>addresses used in the last ten years unquote.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is a wild amount of data. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>they can flash some of this like really quickly again

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 6>against like quote unquote watch lists, right, Yeah, but some

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 6>of this A like to gather this data to gather

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<v Speaker 6>biometric data, that's not possible with like you say, you're

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<v Speaker 6>applying on your cell phone or your your home computer, right,

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<v Speaker 6>so this might require an appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for some of the fingerprint stuff. Part of the

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<v Speaker 3>proposal is also requiring selfie be submitted with this application,

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<v Speaker 3>separate from whatever's on the ID that is being used,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they can extract some like facial biometrics from that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they can also they can also collect that stuff

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>like at the airport Reports ad Ventry. They have fingerprint

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 3>scanners now at a lot of these like entry kiosks. Yeah. Yeah,

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 3>the selfie isn't just a selfie.

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<v Speaker 6>It's what's called a facial liveness scan, which is what

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 6>we've spoken about before with CBP one right that like

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 6>notoriously was very poor at capturing black faces.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Generally, you sort of.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to like move the phone around your face to

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 6>check that it's like it's not me holding up a

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 6>life sized copy of Garrison.

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It's actually Garrison, a three D Garrison.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the Garrison mannequin that we all

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 6>got for Christmas last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you can excuse that one to me? Sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not legal in New York.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this will make it a lot harder for people

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<v Speaker 6>to apply for est divisas. It's going to create a massive,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 6>like dragnet of data for people applying for est visas.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm guessing that kind of is the goal already, right, So, like,

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 6>if you live in these countries, you don't always qualify

0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 6>for an esther. There are certain things you could have done,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 6>saying countries you could have been to certain like if

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 6>you have a criminal record, et cetera, where there you

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't be able to get an esther. So this is

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 6>kind of already a something of a like a pre

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 6>vetted group and and countries who from which systems can

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<v Speaker 6>apply for esters?

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Is that in itself? It's like a tea right now

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 3>everyone in the world can apply for an esther. Yeah,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>it's already a semi exclusive waiver with like a cost

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 3>burden as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, yeah, it creates a massive data data mind

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 6>which I'm guessing might be what they what they're going for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean just the normalization of this sort of

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>like social media scantting to identify, you know, undesirable political

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>beliefs that Mark Rubio in the Department in the Department

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>of State or DHS and deems it's like a national

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 3>security threat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also have kind of my fringe fears that

0:37:54.880 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 2>this will be used to train It's fair, but yeah,

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll say, yeah, how is this not going to be

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 2>catastrophic for any business that relies on tourism, any state

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>that relies on tourism, right, Like.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, Florida.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that's not the top risk, but like

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>it just seems again they're they're going out of their

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 2>way to fuck over every single demographic in the country,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>which I don't think is going to work out for

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 2>them in the long term.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a uh, this is yeah, this is a

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 6>weird one for me because it's the Yeah, the economic

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 6>cost is so obvious.

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a catastrophe, And there's a part of

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>me that's like, maybe this is a good thing, just

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's part of like, right, we've always known and

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>have tried have been trying to say, for years, every

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 2>single aspect, like they these people are bad for everybody.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 2>There's like one hundred and fifty people in the country

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>who benefit from the policies that like the most extreme

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>parts of the right wants to push, and everyone else

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 2>is going to be completely fucked over by it, and

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>we might as well just take the mask off. Like

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's some of what we're seeing in the

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>collapse of Trump's approval is people realizing, like, oh my god,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>these guys really just want to destroy everything good about

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>life like that.

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>That is conservatism in a nutshell.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>We hate life and ourselves.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, that's that was the Democratic Party in

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that symptoms.

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 3>But we want what's worse for everybody. There's yeah, yeah,

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 3>you got it.

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, talking of worse for everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Do we want to talk about the National Security Strategy

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 6>document that the Trump administration released, go for it.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we should do a dedicated episode about that, but

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 2>we could talk briefly about it.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>We have fifteen minutes.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 4>That's not you saw fifteen Yeah.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 6>I've pulled a lot of quotations from it, and we're

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 6>not gonna be able to discuss sort of them here.

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 6>I think we will have to discuss this probably next

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 6>year when we do the whole episode on it. It

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 6>is one of the more like, especially in terms of

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 6>like foreign relations, one of the more like. So this

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 6>is our ideology, this is our outlook, and these are

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 6>our goals documents that I've seen from this administration. Right,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 6>they talk about how I'll just quote from it here.

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 6>American strategy since the end of the Cold War have

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 6>fallen short. They have been laundry lists of wishes or

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 6>desired end states, and have not clearly defined what we

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 6>want be instead stated vague platitudes and have often misjudged

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 6>what we should want. They talk about how they are

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:29.760
<v Speaker 6>going to retain soft power. Soft power people now familiar

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 6>is a theory that Joseph Nye has an international relations

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 6>It's a power to compel or persuade rather than to force. Right,

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 6>the United States has been hemorrhaging soft power like someone

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 6>with their artery cut, like in the last twelve months,

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 6>like selft power is a fraction of what it was

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 6>a year ago. I find it very odd to see

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 6>them even mentioning that, to be honest, when like, I mean,

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 6>they have soft power. If you're Victor Orban talking of orban.

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 6>There's this incredible stuff about Europe. Here quote we want

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 6>to support allies in preserving the freelom and security of

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 6>Europe while restoring Europe's civilizational self confidence and Western identity

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 6>rist another quote that's good, this is wild. The larger

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 6>issues facing Europe include the activities of the European Union,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 6>other transnational bodies undermine political liberty and sovereignty, migration policies

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 6>that are transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 6>free speech and suppression of political opposition, creating birth rates,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 6>and the loss of national identities and self confidence. Should

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 6>present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in twenty

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 6>years or less, and then a missing skipping of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, we want Europe to remain European. This just sounds

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 3>like your average like white nationalists like Twitter posts. Yeah, no, yes,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 3>it comes from Twitter, right, like very twitter brained like

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 3>types of politics. Yeah.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 5>This guy has like a Greek statue avatar exactly.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really fun to say think of Europe

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 3>being like, I'm Europe. I have a lot of self

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 3>confidence issues. I can't really speak up for myself in

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>in in big groups like the European Union of Like,

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 3>come on, what do you mean self confidence to grow up? Yeah,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 3>it's wild.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 6>They're like, you know, they're they're saying that, like what

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 6>European people don't have enough, like like what European pride?

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 3>People don't respect my Western identity?

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 6>Like okay, yeah, notably, like for instance, the country of France,

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 6>a country which lacks self confidence and pride in its identity.

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 3>This is this has been an issue for a long time.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>It's it's very funny to have this in like a U.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 3>This is like a US foreign policy or national security documentary.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is like these are the guiding principles of

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 6>our like foreign policy going forward.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 3>And they're like jerking off about like Europe remaining European.

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, it's just like shit talking an entire continent.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 3>No, America should think Europe is gay and we should

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>stay away from it. That's what our national security party

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>should be, is Europe is gay. We don't want to

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 3>deal with whatever Europe is doing. We're America.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, leave us alone. Yeah that that ended really well

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>for us in the Yeah.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 6>Well, there's almost like a like a like an early

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 6>twentieth century vibe to this document. They talk about the

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 6>Monroe doctrine. Yeah, they do, And they talk about the

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 6>Trump corollary to the Monroe doctrine, which they define as quote,

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 6>we will deny non hemispheric competitors the ability to position

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 6>forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 6>strategically vital assets in our hemisphere. Which the people aren't

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 6>familiar with the Monroe doctrine. It's the US sort of

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 6>has a right and obligation to exercise some control over

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 6>the outcomes.

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:41.959
<v Speaker 3>So the entire Western.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 6>Hemisphere, like say Venezuela, Yes, that would be one example.

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Kearton. Yeah, see, it's totally different from Iraq because this

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>is on our hemisphere. So it's good intervention actually mm hmm. Yeah.

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 6>Manifest destiny has given us the right to all of

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 6>the Americas, and so we can we can intervene in

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 6>outcomes there. There's a lot about thenation state in here,

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 6>and like the idea that they quote unquote nation state

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 6>should prioritize its own interests. I wonder what they're talking

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 6>about there, because like we have many nations that are

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 6>exclude different states all around the world, right, like the

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 6>Kurds being one example, right, Like are they like are

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 6>they saying that nations and states should always align, whilst

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 6>like their special end Voyage of Syria is saying that

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 6>he said this week the decentralization has never succeeded in

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 6>the Middle East, which is a wild statement to be

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 6>saying in a place where like you can drive in

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 6>a single day to the sites of three different genocides

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 6>from northeastern Syria, Right, you can see how the place

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 6>where the Armenian genocide happened, the CD genocide and the

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 6>on FH. Like you can do that driving the day,

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 6>if you don't get hung up at the border.

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, honestly, for now, if we're counting some

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>of what was done against the.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 4>White yeah, yeah, that's a little unclear at the moment,

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, sure.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:58.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Like to say that centralzation as the only way from

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 6>the Middle East is a wild statement.

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how some of this pans out.

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 6>There's also a lot here on border security as national security, right, sure,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm just going to read one. They use the word

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.720
<v Speaker 6>nation a lot. Nationalism was a subfielder by PhD. So obviously,

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 6>like I'm interested in the exact understanding of nation they

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 6>have here because there are several but throughout history, sovereign

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 6>nations prohibited uncontrolled migration a grated citizenship only rarely to

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 6>foreigners who also had to meet demanding criteria. The West

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 6>experience over the past decades vindicates this enduring wisdom in

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 6>country throughout the world, Mass migration as strained domestic resources,

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 6>increased violence out of the crime, weakened social cohesion, distorted

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 6>labor markets, and undermined national security. The era of mass

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 6>migration must end. Border security is the primary element of

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 6>national security.

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Great, this is the only terrain they have left because

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 3>they've abandoned class interests and like exploitation. So the only

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 3>thing they can actually focus this on, and they focus,

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 3>like the focus the economy on is through nationalist immigration policies.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 3>This is like the last refuge for the right once

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 3>they're still trying to appeal to some sort of populism

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 3>but don't actually want to address real class conditions.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and for a lot of the right, when they

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 6>talk about nationalism, they are talking about ethno nationalism. The people,

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, the people are the nation, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 6>the vulk like which is not always blends. So nationalism,

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 6>it's one type of nationalism. It's not all types of nationalism, right, Like.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>That's the cool thing about the United States, And this

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 3>is the one country, one of the only countries where

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 3>this that principle has been like opposed in vary degrees

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 3>since the country is founding.

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like it's supposed to be that the example, maybe

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 6>along with France, right of like subscriptive nationalism, where nationalism

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 6>was not an ethnic quality, it was subscribing to a

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 6>set of values and belief philosophical idea. Yeah, that does

0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 6>not seem to be the vibe I'm picking up. There's

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:04.919
<v Speaker 6>a lot more in this document. They spend a decent

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.720
<v Speaker 6>part of its ship talking other document, other previous national

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 6>security strategies.

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Yea, these are always good for both. But we're going

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 3>to keep it brief and then off they go.

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I think it's it's worth us maybe doing

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 6>the whole episode on because I think it's one of

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 6>the more like coherent statements of believery. Not not a

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 6>lot of this stuff is new. We knew that's how

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 6>they thought about immigration.

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you hear them talk about it on Fox on

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 3>News Max. Like any Stephen Miller like public statement is

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.479
<v Speaker 3>you know it's going to talk about talk about how

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, immigration is changing, you know, the economic makeup

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 3>of the country, and like the core identity of the

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 3>country is changing, which to defend Western identity, that sort

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, seeing it all written in document together, I think

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 6>is where this has value totally. And I think, yeah,

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 6>seeing that all laid out, seeing the you know, the

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 6>way these things play into their view of the world,

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 6>and then as I following what's actually happening in the world,

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 6>and like, you know clearly that when they're talking, they're

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 6>talking about the United States. When they're talking about nations, right,

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.959
<v Speaker 6>they're not talking about the Kurds, They're not talking about

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 6>your Zds, the Catalans, other nations that have states.

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 3>It's just so funny because they lay out all these

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:21.760
<v Speaker 3>economic things, right, straining domestic resources, violence and crime, weakened

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 3>social cohesion, and and destroyed labor markets. Right, they lay

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 3>out all of these things which have direct like like

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 3>economic causal drivers. Yeah, and they're like, no, no, no, no,

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 3>it's actually not about these economic factors. It's just about immigration.

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Like they're so it's so blatant.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, other ideology and history escape go to a

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 6>certain group for the economic disaster in a country that's

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:46.240
<v Speaker 6>never happened before.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just one for one. If you go back

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 5>to moish Postone's theory of like structural anti Semitism as

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 5>the driver of the Holocaust, it's literally just this, right,

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 5>except this is an even more blatant version of it.

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Seem like the Nazis, even though did try to do

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 3>some like populist economic policies as well.

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, the Strength through Joy program.

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the modern American right doesn't even try to do that.

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 3>It's just the immigration. They're not even doing like a

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 3>weird like like right wing like socialized there.

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 4>There's all this I'll push back.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of like the talk with oh,

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have a give every American thousand dollars that

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 2>will be invested in that.

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 4>Like there's they are like.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 3>They talk about it, they don't do it. They don't

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 3>do it. They talk about it. Yes, sometimes, Yeah, he

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 3>talked about a tariff check. Right, Trump was going to

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 3>give every every Americans check. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 6>The first time they date during COVID, right, they threw

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 6>some money around, but.

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 3>There was that like, yeah, one or two stimulus checks

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 3>we got at the end of COVID. Yeah, the end

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 3>of a first you know, batch of the pandemic cycle

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 3>to be more accurate. Yeah, yeah, Robbert, was there one

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:55.959
<v Speaker 3>other thing you wanted to talk about? We have time.

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is basically related to the Warner Brothers acquisition.

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason, Reddit's algorithm will periodically give me little

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 2>hints and bits of the war between Zack Snyder fans

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the world.

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I know a lot about this. I know

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot about this.

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big Zack Snyder fan, you know, but

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Like I didn't feel strongly anti or pro.

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 4>His his DC movies.

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 2>There are some crazy people out there who believe and

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 2>they are like reading the tea leaves. They think the

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Saudis are going to like kill his enemies, They're.

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Going to restore the Snyder for Strobert. Yeah, you know

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 3>this is I've been following this just as like a

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 3>personal interest.

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 4>For you nuts. It's crazy.

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 3>They're fascinating people, like they're fascinating you.

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Unique people to study, Like the number of people who

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 2>literally believe that it Like there should be people executed

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 2>publicly for for not letting Zack Snyder finish his movies.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 4>That didn't make money.

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Is out because well because Netflix has part of with

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Snyder for you years. When when if Netflix takes over,

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 3>they're obviously going to restore the Snyder Verse. James Gunn

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>is going to be You're going.

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 2>To restore the Snyder paramount, take over the saudis we

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>can do it too.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's really for Snyder bros. Things are looking up,

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 3>So put your money in Snyder coin right now.

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, my favorite thing about that is that like as

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>soon as they announced the deal, they were like, and

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.439
<v Speaker 2>James Gunn is staying, And they talked a lot about

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 2>him on the call because like his movies are a

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 2>big part of what makes what are valuable right now?

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Right Like he's good at making money for the people

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.839
<v Speaker 2>that he works for. And the level of conspiracy theories

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 2>like no they have it's like, Q, it's great have

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to hide Zack Snyder's back because they can't let people.

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Know yet, but he's already been told.

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 3>He's been doing this for like eight years.

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. I had not realized how crazy they were. Yeah,

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's really fun.

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>That that's I always enjoy encountering a new cult I

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 2>think Zach is kind of taking advantage to them to

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:03.760
<v Speaker 2>get his insight follower account.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's very.

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Funny because he's like posting stuff that's like they're reading.

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Is like he's messaging that it's coming back. Even when

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>guys like Ben afflecks like it was the worst. I

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 2>hated being Batman. I would never do that again. I

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be It's I I love it. I

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 2>just love seeing deranged people be arranged about something that's

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 2>actually harmless for once. Yeah, we could get we could

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>get a Snyder Verse related shooting. That's not impossible.

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Snyder does encourage it a little bit. But Snyder is not,

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I think, the villain of this story.

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And no, he's clearly friends with Gun like they're they're no.

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, and I uh. Specifically, he has dropped his plans,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.919
<v Speaker 3>which which he had for years, to do some eind

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.760
<v Speaker 3>randed adaptions, which I'm bummed about because I think Snyder's

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 3>eind would be great, and instead instead he's writing this

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 3>like this like lesbian movie with.

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.240
<v Speaker 4>Someone with tetah.

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so unfortunately we're trading iron Rand for like

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>this like lesbian cinema slop, which I am.

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 4>I am just lean I am really about because.

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 3>I think I think Zack Snyder's Iron Rand would be

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 3>a much more fascinating piece of art.

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I want to see Ben Shapiro get one

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 4>That's what I've got.

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 3>No, they bought exclusive TV rights to one of the

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 3>one of the books I forget, forget if I forget if

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 3>it was fountain Head or Atlas Shrugged. But since the

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Daily Wires like finances have collapsed, I do not think

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 3>they're going forward with that right now.

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh but but gare the pendragonsight it's coming out though.

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited, right We got to watch that together. We

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 2>gotta find it, we gotta we gotta have the company

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>pay for us to meet in the Airbnb in a

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>state and and just just watch that, son of a bit.

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 3>If we want to this year to plan some kind

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 3>of a cool zone convergence to to to watch uh,

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 3>to watch the pen Dragon cycle together, I would I

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 3>would hapily travel for that.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I think we're ethically obligated to do that.

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Okay, final final closing note. Trans housing insecurity continuing to increase,

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 5>But if you have an extra room, put a transperson in.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 5>If you have a couch, put a trans girl on

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 5>your couch. This is going to be beas the message

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 5>going forward. Jesus Christ. People just put a trans girl

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 5>on your couch. You can figure out how to live together.

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.240
<v Speaker 5>It will be fine. People are going homeless and dying,

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 5>please do this.

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, is there like data on like what's what's Is

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 2>this just as a result of like the continuing like

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 2>people being forced out of their jobs?

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is this is this is all this is.

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.280
<v Speaker 5>This is me finally talking about something I've been tracking

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 5>for a very very long time, which is I mean

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 5>I say a very long time. But you know, even

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 5>over about the past four or five years, has been

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.400
<v Speaker 5>massive transmigration into places like Portland, into places like Chicago,

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 5>into places like New York.

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 3>They're getting housing in New York. There's a lot of

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.839
<v Speaker 3>a lot of transh housing in New York. I think this. Yeah,

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 3>there's there's there's some regional aspects of this. Don't come

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 3>to San Diego.

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>We yeah, it make it makes sense that this cities

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that are safer having like a big influat and there's

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, those are also cities that do

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 2>not have great housing supply.

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:06.359
<v Speaker 4>YEA yeah.

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, nearly balloon.

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 5>And there's been a lot of issues with it, and

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 5>that's something that can be mitigated by just putting people

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:13.800
<v Speaker 5>on your couch.

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, that's as a short terms maybe I

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.759
<v Speaker 3>don't honestly the couch thing freaks me out. As a

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 3>long term solution.

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, but I mean that's the thing though, it doesn't

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 5>have to be a long term.

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 3>People have connections to help other people get jobs. Yeah,

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.320
<v Speaker 3>so they get like like pay pay a low amount

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 3>of rent for like a room that's way more solid

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 3>than like this like forever couch surfing thing that sometimes

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 3>people like refer to as like quote unquote transhousing.

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 5>Okay, but again, but the idea here is that there,

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 5>and this is just something that I have running too extensively,

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 5>is there are a bunch of people who basically just

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 5>need to get out and need like a couple of

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 5>months or a month to get back on their feet

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 5>and don't have the ability to do it and are

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 5>going homeless because of that, and it's killing people and

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 5>fucking sucks. Yeah, and that is something that can be

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 5>mitigated with sort of cultural shifts towards sharing space more.

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 5>And we're all gonna have to do it more because

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 5>the economy is about to collapse even more so.

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Great fun.

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Yay, put transcoll on your couch.

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