1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Old Zone Media. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, this is an emergency episode of It 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Could Happen Here. We're dropping everything else for the most 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: important breaking news in the country. Andy Dick has overdosed 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: in public in the city of Los Angeles. Thankfully, in 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: preparation for this, we've had our entire team deployed to 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: the areas around Andy Dick's home. James, do you have 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: any updates on the situation. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure who Andy Dick is. It's just 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: like a public figure in about I couldn't. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 4: Planned this out better. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Andy Dick is America's sweetheart and he's going through some 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: troubled times. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: But it's okay. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: They narcand him in public. No, it's Andy Dick's fault. 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: This is entirely on Andy Dick. Yeah, well, good on 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: the past and who had not Kerry Narkan. No, one 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: should never feel sorry for Andy Dick. I feel bad 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: for the Narkan. 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: This is It could Happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: news cast covering what's happening in the White House, the 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: crumbling world, and Andy Dick. I'm Garrison Davis this episode. 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm joined by do we refer to someone? The first time, 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: we only used the last name Garrison. Yeah, I'm joined 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: by being James Shout, Robert Evans, and Sophy Lichter. We 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: are covering the week of December fourth, December tenth. 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: So one of the big stories of the last week 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: or so is something that would seem would be unequivically 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: a bad thing in any other political climate, which is 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: Netflix buying Warner Brothers and contributing to the shrinking ever 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: further of like America's like the number of people who 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: actually own all of the media that Americans consume. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, monopolization is obviously bad. 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: But in this case, I mean it's it's it's bad 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: that that end. It's probably better that Netflix buy it 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: than Paramount by it. 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 5: Yes, so I. 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Guess I'm like, well, okay, it's going to be working. 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 5: Creditor versus alien situation. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: It's a really a weird situation, right, because a lot 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: of people are really dooming about Netflix acquiring Warner Brothers 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: and what that'll mean for like, you know, art and 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: the you know, theatrical model of film distribution, and then 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: not realizing that Paramount's counterbid based on Saudi money, yeah, 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: would place Warner Brothers in the control of one of 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: the most Trump aligned like media enterprises in the United 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: States right now. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so let's let's let's roll back a second 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: and look at what is actually going on here. And 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: it's actually very important to note this is being recorded 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 5: on Wednesday's Zeber tenth. This whole situation is changing extremely quickly. 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 5: There could be some another unhinged thing could have happened 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 5: by the time you're listening to this. But the basics 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: here is that Paramount which was recently acquired by sky Dance. 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: Which is which direction did that acquisition go? 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: I mean, technically. 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: Speaking was a merger, but it was really but it 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: was Skydance taking control of Paramount. Skydance had been run 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: by Larry Ellison's son, David Ellison. 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: David. 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. So, and this is this is this is this 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: is the regime that sort of imposed Barry Weiss on CBS, 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: which has become increasingly right wing under her quote unquote leadership. 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: We're going to do a full episode about this. I 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 5: think on Monday. 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna be tuning into the Charlie Kirka Erica kirktown 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: Hall on CBS this Saturday. 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: Oh God, they can't make me. I will have recorded 69 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: this episode before they did this. I'm going to be 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 5: tuning in because it looks phenomenal, so it's worth putting out. 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: So Larry Ellison, who is the father of David Ellison, 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: is one of the most terrifying of all of the 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: right wing billionaires. Yeah, he's kind of more quiet than 74 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: someone like Andresen or Elon Musk about being a unhinged 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: right wing fanatic. But he's one of Trump's biggest spporters. 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: He has a whole thing about how everyone's inevitably going 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: to be under total concerts or avenalllists that will make 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: everyone behave Well, we'll cover this more later. But the 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: Ellison's the father son Ellison duo and paramounts backed by 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 5: the Saudis Abu Dabi Catterer. 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: They want Bugs Bunny desperately because he keeps My sources 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: are saying he keeps pranking Mohammed Ben Salmon. 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: By cross dressing. Yeah, and it's really Yeah. 84 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: The entire Saudi military is incapable of stopping Bugs Bunny, 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: I mean, bet for taking him down. 86 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think what's what's an interesting fact in these 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: various bids for control of Warner Brothers. The Netflix deal 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: does not include CNN. The Paramount deal does. 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, before we get into that, we should we should 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 5: say what Paramount is doing now, which is Paramounts on 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 5: Monday began to try to just do a hostle takeover 92 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 5: by just straight up buying out the shares at what 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 5: they're claiming is the higher share price. There's a whole 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: lot of complicated stuff yeah about share pricing here that 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: you don't really care about. 96 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: And there have been so many dishonest headlines, like one 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: being like Paramount lost the bid by just seventy five cents. 98 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Seventy five cents to share. That's like hundreds and hundreds 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Scats And that's not even it's it's all, it's all ridiculous. Yeah, 101 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal has been getting a lot of 102 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: the information about this. We've gotten to a point on 103 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: Wednesday where investors are going to the Wall Street Journal 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: and being like, there's gonna be a bidding war. There's 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: gonna be a bidding war. But the Wall stretjournle points out, 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: and I think this is an interesting thing here that's 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: important to say. These hostile takeover attempts almost never work. 108 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: It's like thirty percent of the time. Yeah, and it's 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 5: like sub thirty percent that these that these things kind 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 5: of work. But the other card that the Father's son 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: Ellison duo have is claiming that Trump is more likely 112 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: to back Paramount's buyout than the Netflix one because Trump 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: can sort of stop this through anti trust or quote 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 5: unquote anti trust stuff. Per Axios, Jared Kushner's consultancy firm 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: is part of Paramount's buyout plan, and per Wall Street Journal, 116 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: David Ellison met with Trump with Trump administration officials in 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: quote recent days and has offered to you know, this 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: this comes back to what Garrison was saying about CNN 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 5: being part about part of this package. They have been 120 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: offering to effectively do to CNA what they did to CBS, 121 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: which is put it under the control of the right 122 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: wing fanatic and turn it into a propaganda pure propaganda outlet. 123 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: This is you know, obviously corruption of a sort of 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: mind blowing yeah. Yeah, and a broad to the fact 125 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 5: that like our quote unquote free press is literally just 126 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: for sale. 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: Amazingly, this is not this doesn't seem to be working, no, 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: I mean, and Trump has spoken positively about Netflix and 129 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: the Netflix CEO the past few days. 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: But he's also speaking negatively about both of them. 131 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, both the Netflix heard negatively about Ellison recently. And 132 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: there's a there's a quote from an article I found 133 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: uh in the Wall Street Journal. Trump is so far 134 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: avoided publicly backing a bitter None of them are particularly 135 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: great friends of mine, he said at a White House 136 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: round table on Monday. A person close to Trump said 137 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: the President will want Paramount and Netflix to compete for 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: his approval of a deal, which does sound very Trump. 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and apparently the specific thing he's mad at Paramount 140 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 5: about is for having Mergory Taylor Green on CBSS. 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny. 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: Oh, he's It's really funny. 143 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 5: There is no amount of sort of ass kissing that 144 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 5: you can do to actually make Trump consistently be on 145 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: your side. It's really hideous. 146 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: This is all disgusting, unless unless you give him the 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: FIFO World Peace Prize. 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: Yes, Troy, Yeah, he'll die for FIFA now. Yeah, can 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: I just say fuck me? 150 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: He's actually renaming American football to soccer. 151 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: God, I love the FIFA trophy because it looks disgusting trophy. 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I have fifteen minutes on that. 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: It's just all those hands grasping that ball. 154 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 155 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, really genuinely one of the one of the most 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 6: impressive actors sports sick fantasy since nineteen thirty three. 157 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't seem like Trump is as keen 158 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: to back Paramount's bid as what some of the Paramount 159 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: people thought he might be. The Netflix deal might just 160 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: end up actually going through. 161 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we'll see about this. This is all 162 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: going to change probably by the time you're reading this 163 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: or listening to this. That's that's the one that you do. 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: But it's so cool that we live in an economy 165 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: where your two options are Netflix destroys Film forever and 166 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 5: the Nazis gain control of CNN. It's great, great system. Yeah, no, no, no, no. 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Notes, And what what would really be damaging if if 168 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Paramount's able to buy Warner Brothers is that then they 169 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: would be in charge of Nathan Fielder's rehearsal, which which 170 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: does which does target the fascistic Paramount regime. Yeah, James, 171 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: what's some what's some small news stories we can uh, 172 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: we can go with here before our first break. 173 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm operating on a couple of computers here, 174 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: So this is gonna I'm gonna have to work around 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 6: some constraints. 176 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: Fam, good thing you're wearing your five eleven uniform to 177 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: help maintain the discipline necessary. 178 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: Garson, this is not five eleven, my friend, this is 179 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 6: five dot one dot one. 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: You kind of get this shit out side of Syria 182 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 6: and Iraq, and I fucking love it. 183 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: I still have my knockoff Timberland shirt which just says 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: thix and gand and looks honestly, the label looks like 187 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: an AI slop tried to put the Timberland logo. 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 6: My favorite is the one that just says sixteen five 190 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 6: plus eleven. I love fake five eleven shit. If you 191 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 6: have fake five eleven shit, I have a collection of it. 192 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 6: Send it to me. I will retire and make a 193 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: museum one day. I cannot get enough of it. I 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 6: love that it started as a rock climbing brand in 195 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 6: New Smite and now it is a lifestyle brand in Syria. 196 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: It's perfect. 197 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: I tell you, I missed my Adodus tracksuit that I got. 198 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 6: A I got some. I've got some Merle boots as well. 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 6: I love that ship. I got a fake Gourban knife 200 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 6: graber that that Yeah, yeah, bullshit bullshit knives. 201 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of my face because putting up women's 202 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 5: hats very soon. 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, let's talk about the news. So this is 204 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 6: a fun one. Schrodink is permit going to call it. 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 6: In Pensacola, somebody participating in Food not Bombs was arrested 206 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 6: Following that, at a press conference, the city announced that 207 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: a person was arrested for being in a park too late, right, 208 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 6: I guess in Florida, of course, yeah, this is this 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 6: is the most serious crime. 210 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and also. 211 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: Giving food to poor people, which is probably like a 212 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 6: felony in Florida. So the city then announced issue have 213 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 6: been resolved because there had been there was a permit 214 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 6: issued to Food not Bombs for them. 215 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: To be in the park late and give people food. 216 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: Food not Bombs did not apply for the permit, nor 217 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 6: do they want the permit, right, there's no kind of 218 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 6: That's not how Food on Bombs works. Food not Bombs 219 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 6: is an is it action? Non entity? Right like it 220 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 6: is a protest action. The city is now reviewing if 221 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: the permit is releasable under public records laws so someone 222 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 6: can find out who attempted to white Knight food not bombs. Yeah, 223 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: some of the suggestions as there's a guy who runs 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 6: some kind of we will cooperate with the cops to 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: get people of fentanyl charity, which uses some incredible AI 226 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: imagery on its Instagram page. 227 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds good. 228 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I will keep you updated on this, this 229 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: Florida story. 230 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that. James. 231 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 6: In the Oregon versus Trump case regarding National Guard deployment, 232 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 6: Judge J. Biby, not normally a guy associated with WOKE, 233 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 6: a George W. Bush appointee, has penned an extensive opinion 234 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 6: I think of sixty four pages on the domestic violence 235 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 6: clause at the Constitution and how it ought. 236 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: To restrain the use of the Guard. 237 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 6: So it's like a different argument than we've seen previously, right, 238 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 6: in discussions about the National Guards, because. 239 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read the other judge opinion pieces, but not 240 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: this one. Yeah. 241 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: So Biby's been been in it for a while, and yeah, 242 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 6: he's been someone who has previously not really been an 243 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: opponent of what I might see as of overreach in 244 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 6: terms of state power and violence. But yeah, using this 245 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: this is a different clause to the Constitution, right, So 246 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 6: it's now moving along in that discussion yesterday as we 247 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 6: were recording this, so that would be on Tuesday at 248 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: the ninth. The Democrats, how they buy cameral shadow quote 249 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 6: unquote shadow hearing on the detention of US citizens by 250 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 6: DHS that doesn't really have the power to do much. 251 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: And I have not had time to listen to the 252 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 6: entire recording because it was only streamed on Facebook. I 253 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 6: love that we have an opposition in this country. 254 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: God, I love the Democrats. 255 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really I like how together they've got it, 256 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Like after a rough patch, they're really firing out. 257 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, like a phoenix from the Ashes have an absolute 258 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 6: ass whipping in the election. 259 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like an ass phoenix exactly. 260 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, ass Phoenix. That's that's my band. Actually, I can't 261 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: believe that you plugged us on there. 262 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. Okay. 263 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 6: Trump's ongoing barrage of hate about Somali people has been 264 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: met with some incredible posting. People who are not on 265 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 6: x dot com will have missed this, but like genuinely 266 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 6: some of the funniest response to some of the most 267 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 6: hateful shit. Like Trump and Miller have both been on 268 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 6: a guess Fox News. Fox News went to Minneapolis and 269 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: heard a call to prayer and had a meltdown about it. 270 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 6: But this is this campaign, I guess by Trump and 271 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 6: Miller is very much ongoing. We spoke about that last 272 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 6: week with the TBS, and people aren't familiar, they can 273 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: check that out last week. Yeah, Aileen Higgins won the 274 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 6: Miami mayoral election. Do I want to make a pit Bull. 275 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: Joke the dog you're talking about, mister worldwide. 276 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: Well, we could do. Margat is a major issue. I'm 277 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 6: just trying to work on that acronym. 278 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: Oh God, because. 279 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: I'm always thinking about mister worldwide, James. He's never far 280 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: from my thoughts. 281 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 6: No, I often think about Pitbull and how he and 282 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton often were exactly the same thing. 283 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: That's right, they have a lot in common. Actually, the 284 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: primary thing. 285 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: Is Miami, Yes, mister, yeah, yeah, yes, But this is 286 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: the first time a Democrat has won the mayoral office 287 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: in Miami in almost thirty years, which is this is 288 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: wild significant. 289 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: This is astonishing. 290 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I guess was like a pretty decent win. 291 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: This was a runoff election, but it's still a pretty 292 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: pretty substantial win. 293 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 294 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: And I think there's a few important notes here. One 295 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: is that even the Miami Cuba demographics swung massively towards 296 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 5: the Democrats, which is sort of apocalyptic news for the Republicans. 297 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: Stas really, really bad. If you're losing the Miami Cuban population. 298 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: If you have got Miami Cubans to think critically about politics, 299 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: things are dire. 300 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: And the other thing here too, is that the Florida 302 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 5: Democratic Party, like I would compare them to clowns, but 303 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: like these these motherfuckers make Bobo the Clown look like 304 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: fucking Napoleon. These are the most some of the most 305 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: incompetent people in the entire history of politics, and the 306 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: Republicans are losing to them. That's astonishing. There were a 307 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: couple of other results like this. 308 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this week, Democrats flipped a Georgia State House seat. 309 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: The seat moved blue by twenty two points. 310 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: Geez yep. 311 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: They flipped Albuquerque City Council. There's all of these little results, 312 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: and this has been happening basically since we got the 313 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: first special elections of the Trump administration, where the Republicans 314 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: are losing like R plus twenty two districts. They're getting 315 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 5: destroyed in places that it shouldn't be possible for them 316 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: to lose and this is another major confirmation of the 317 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: media everyone hates them theory. Every day it gets more 318 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: and more validated. Everyone can hate them. 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Last a small news story that I think is 320 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: worth mentioning because it's a I think pretty important. Actually, 321 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: conservative podcaster Benny Johnson is threatening to sue Milo Theanopolis 322 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: for alleging that he is gay. So we're gonna be 323 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: keeping up with this story pretty close. I know this 324 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: has a lot of ramifications for listeners. 325 00:15:46,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, cool, we should do ads. We're back and 326 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about the January sixth pipe bomb guy suspect. 327 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we know there's a person. We don't 329 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: know that it was a guy. We know someone playing 330 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: for those pipe bombs. I'm going to talk about the suspect. 331 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: I want to start just for a little bit by 332 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: again talking about the degree to which I really hope 333 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: this is apocalyptic for the Blaze. Yeah, what they did 334 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: is a case study and what you should never do 335 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: as a publication. It was unethical, it was idiotic, and 336 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: it was deeply dangerous. And if the Capitol police officer 337 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: does not sue them, I don't know what kind of 338 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: advice she's getting other than maybe just sheer terror at 339 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: the number of death threats she's already received. But like ma'am, 340 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: getting all of Glennbeck's money is the only thing that 341 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: will keep you safe right now. 342 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: Please do it now. 343 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you you were out last week when we 344 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: when we got the like some the very first reporting 345 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: on the pipe bomb arrests. 346 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, is the only thing I regret about 347 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: my vacation. 348 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, but very little information was out last week, and 349 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: we have more information now regarding the alleged January sixth 350 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: pipe bomber, or technically January fifth pipe bomber, who is 351 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: now charged with transporting an explosive device with attempt to kill, 352 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: injure or damaged property, and attempted malicious destruction by means 353 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: of fire and explosive materials. According to court records, the 354 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: FBI identified the suspect through cell tower records, license plate readers, 355 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: and purchases of potential bomb making materials, including the pipes, 356 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: the cap ends, the wires, steel, and nine volt batteries. 357 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't appear that they gained possession of new information, 358 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 3: but by changing the agents looking at the information, they 359 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: were able to piece piece this together to actually make 360 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: inaction on it, leading to the arrest. 361 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: So it's a classic FBI story of they had all 362 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: the information they needed to have caught this guy very 363 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: long ago and did not yeah. 364 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: Right, or lack the ability to like put the piece 365 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: together in a way that makes them able to do 366 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: the rest. 367 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: But as is always the case, this was not an 368 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: issue if they didn't have enough access to information. There 369 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: was too much ENCRYPTI you know, they need more power. No, 370 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: they had everything they needed. They just didn't think right. 371 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: That's what it was. They weren't thinking right, you know. 372 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: Still, very little has come out officially about the alleged 373 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: bomber's potential motivation. 374 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: Who may be innocent, let's be clear, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 375 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: There's nothing alluding to his motivation in the charging documents 376 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: besides just an interest, a year's long interest in bombmaking, 377 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: starting in twenty nineteen and continuing into like twenty twenty one. 378 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: Now NBC has reported based on sources inside the law 379 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: enforcement investigation team, but Embassy's reported that before the suspect 380 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: acquired an attorney, he confessed to investigators and told the 381 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: FBI that he believed in twenty twenty election conspiracy theories. 382 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: But some new information from the New York Post, which 383 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: I have verified may have actually cracked this story wide open. 384 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: They have learned that the suspect is a brony. My 385 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: Little Pony fan draws a lot of actually relatively good 386 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: quality My Little Pony fan art and writes fins my 387 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: Little Pony fan fiction. I could read some. 388 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: Here, Garrison, what is the quality of their fan fiction? Yeah, 389 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: let's just just give us like fifteen minutes. 390 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: I'll read a paragraph. Quote Apple Bloom's eyes. It snapped open, 391 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: and she sat up in her bed, panting heavily and 392 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: sweat dripping from her red mane. It was another bad 393 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: dream about that village she had discovered back in the 394 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: Ever Free Forest sunny Town. At first, it seemed like 395 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: a normal, peaceful little village, kind of like Ponyville. What 396 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: was strange was that none of the inhabitants had cutie marks. 397 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: In fact, they hadn't the slightest clue as to what 398 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: a cutie mark was. 399 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: So could you send me that link? Could? Yeah? 400 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 6: Thank you? 401 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll actually, I'll send this to the entire team chat. 402 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 5: I'm demanding hazard pay at the next union negotiations. Hazard pay. 403 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: Actually, like, this is very standard, but relatively good quality. 404 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: My Little Pony brony activity non sexual entirely like. I've 405 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: looked at a lot of this guy's art. It's fairly clear, pros, 406 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: fairly high quality. My Little Pony fan are in a 407 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: variety of styles from different earros at the show. Not 408 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: like a sexually fetishistic depiction. 409 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Can't wait to see the headlines from this. Yeah, cool 410 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Zone host defends Capital bipe bombers pros. 411 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: But no like. A high school classmate told Washington Post 412 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: that he was bullied for having a My Little Pony 413 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: backpack in school. 414 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. 415 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: He's had this interest for quite a while, kind of 416 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: kind of tapered off a few years before before the bombing, 417 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: But for a while this was like kind of one 418 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: of his main hobbies. On a Tumblr profile, he lists 419 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: his interest as quote hardcore music, video games, mainly horror, drawing, 420 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: improving myself philosophically, and anime. Unquote. Well, his grandmother has 421 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: described him as quote almost autistic, like because he doesn't 422 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: understand a lot of stuff. Unquote. He's only ever worked 423 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: for the family bail bond business. 424 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 425 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I'll say this, he wasn't bad 426 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: like he kind of had a future in a private 427 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: security or something like that, like not bad op set 428 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: as it turned out. 429 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know. 430 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: A funny slash A dark thing is that in the 431 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: right wing just desperate effort to make everything about trans people, 432 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: they have turned this Brony thing into like a you 433 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: know the trans people also like my little pony and 434 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: like Bronie and like like quotes from like psychologists in 435 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: some of these articles about how how how Bronie is 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 3: like play with like gender boundaries spy by being fans 437 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: of like a girl's like a like a property that's 438 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: usually enjoyed by girls. So there's like a like attempt 439 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 3: to try to kind of paint this and like in 440 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: like a pseudo translate, but that's not getting much traction 441 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: because like people know what Broni's are, and like, come on, 442 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: I think this, this whole strategy is on the out 443 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: in some ways. 444 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, am I am I incorrect here because I had 445 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: just caught this, but I didn't Actually this is like 446 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: while I was on vacation, I had heard that he 447 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: expressed a belief that the twenty twenty election was stolen 448 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: from Trump. 449 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's we see do we know if that's accurate. Okay, Okay, 450 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: So he does seem to. 451 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: That's been reported by the NBC that he told investigators 452 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: that he believed in like twenty twenty election conspiracy theories. Okay, 453 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: the ones that were spread by Trump. 454 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: So, I mean it seems like from what we have, 455 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: one of the more predictable ones. And like it's not 456 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: if this is like a weird right wing you know, Bronie. 457 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: This is not the first time right wing Bronie has 458 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: done something violent. 459 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't seem super political in my opinion, Like none 460 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: of his own activity points towards a deep interest in politics. 461 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: No, but if he said he thought the election was stolen, 462 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: then that is makes sense as being a contributing fact. 463 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a factor perhaps, but not a huge like 464 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: online presence that revolves around politics. Like a lot of 465 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 3: people who aren't super into politics maybe thought the election 466 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: was like stolen or like rigged. 467 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean, as we try to point out periodically, the 468 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: vast majority of people who will carry out a shooting 469 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: or other act of mass public violence in the US 470 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: are going to have more in common with other people 471 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: who do that than anyone specifically, just in political terms 472 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: for the most part, because most of them are you know, 473 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: there's their shooter stands there, they're that sort of thing, 474 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: like this is their special interest bombings or whatever he. 475 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: Does seem to have, Like it's a lot of special interests, right. 476 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: It used to be my little ponies, then it became 477 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: bomb making that just seemed to be a special interest 478 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: of his for like three or four years. Was just 479 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: like the practice of bomb making. This is just just 480 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: something he got like into, And I think that's more 481 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: of a motivating force and like a specific partisan political motivation. 482 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: And I think it's really funny, like reflecting on a 483 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: a statement that that that law enforcement leaked last week 484 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: saying that he had like anarchist like leanings, which is 485 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: very very amusing now in light of in light of 486 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: all of that, for. 487 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 6: A long time, they have used anarchism to mean like 488 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 6: a predilection for violence or chaos. 489 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't less like the government, right, Like, yeah, part of 490 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: this is just the way people tend to use the 491 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 2: term anarchism. When I was doing my research for like 492 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: the nuclear Doomstate device episodes, there's a bunch of otherwise 493 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: great pieces that are like and then in the in 494 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: the wake of a global nuclear war, society will collapse 495 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: and all that will be left is anarchy. It's like, guys, like, 496 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: it's not anarchy. That's that's going to be the problem 497 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: that like, like you realize that the cause of. 498 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: A nuclear war is like yeah, all. 499 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: Of this, Yeah, it's it is not an anarchy as 500 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: opposed to nuclear war I'm worried about. 501 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: For example, Yeah, yeah, venue clear. 502 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about like democracy, fucking authoritarian as I'm 503 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: worried about all of those things. Anarchists would never have 504 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: built the nuclear dooms dat advice. 505 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. 506 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, It's why I used left libertarian sometimes in my 507 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: academic writing, because. 508 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: It was just the term. 509 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 6: It's just not comprehensible, especially someone coming having been raised 510 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 6: on US media. 511 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: And in the wake of a global nuclear war, you'll 512 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: be lucky to get some anarchy because it probably means 513 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: someone's found some food and it's cooking it for you. 514 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah food no bombs on like food off. 515 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: They've rebranded, but that's still going food common. 516 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 517 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: Bomb was actually done with bombs. 518 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: We did it. Yeah, we replaced the bots of food. 519 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: One other update I'll squeeze in here quick it's short. Yeah. 520 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: Last week, the Supreme Court ruled that Texas can use 521 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: its newly drawn congressional map in the upcoming twenty twenty 522 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: six midterms, likely adding five Republican seats. The lower court order, 523 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: which found the new map was racially gerrymannered intentionally has 524 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: It's been stayed indefinitely as the Supreme Court prepares to 525 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: consider whether to overturn the lower court's ruling entirely, a 526 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: process which could take months go well into the midterm cycle. 527 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: So the Supreme Court authorized the use of that new 528 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: map for this next election. 529 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 6: Talking of fan fiction and covers of things, here is 530 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 6: a song that was originally the worst song by the 531 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 6: Clash and now it's about tariffs, rocking. 532 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 7: Jazz righty jazz boy Jazz right jazz Bob. 533 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: I think the cover is of a similar quality as 534 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: the alleged bomber's fan art in my opinion, Dear God, 535 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: there's a lot of good twilight sparkle stuff that he 536 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: was strong. Come sorry, So all right. 537 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: China is technically once again buying American soybeans. Is part 538 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: of the sort of giant trade deal that Chi Jiping 539 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: and Trump negotiated. But come up it is not buying 540 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: soybeans at the rate that the White House said it 541 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: would in the fact sheet that was released by the 542 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 5: White House about the negotiations. This is a huge problem 543 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: because farmers are still not being able to sell enough 544 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 5: soybeans to not get completely fucked, and the White House 545 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: is now putting out a bunch of statements saying, oh no, 546 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 5: we actually screwed up the fact sheet. They said that 547 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 5: they would buy the soybeans not before the end of 548 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: the year, before at the end of like the growing season. 549 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: That's good, that's good. 550 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. So, And the other solution to this has been 551 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 5: a twelve billion dollar farmer bailout, which is funny because 552 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: he did a twelve billion dollar farm bailout in his 553 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 5: first term when exactly the same thing happened and it 554 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 5: didn't really do anything. 555 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: Well, at least we're not bailing out let's say Argentina. 556 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: Funny example, Gars, what makes you choose that one? 557 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: Oh? 558 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 5: God? Yeah. So. The issue with this farmer's bailout is 559 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: and this is something that farmers have been saying through 560 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 5: all of the trade press, any regular press. They can 561 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 5: get access to every local media outlet, every single farmer 562 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 5: who anyone has interviewed has gone, we don't want to 563 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: bail out. We want to be able to sell our 564 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: blasted soybeans, and they still can't. And this is, you know, 565 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 5: a becoming a real problem for this administration that even 566 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: after their giant negotiations to get tried out of by soybeans, 567 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: they still can't do it. And farmers are continuing to 568 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 5: be very very piss off about this. 569 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: Where are my beans? Yeah, they're sitting in the silos. 570 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: They're still there. They can't sell them. 571 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: How am I going to keep up my soy consumption 572 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 6: and goin it befless to become a I know what 573 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: other vegan options era, some other kind of boy, I guess. 574 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll just have to get it from Brazilians. 575 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: That brazil mentioned. Everyone cheer, Hey, they don't good these days? 576 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hasn't there been some Bolsonnaro news recently? I 577 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: feel like. 578 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: There has been. Let's roll to ads and then we'll 579 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: talk about it. 580 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: Okay, this has been Urfuck. 581 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: We're back, and you know who's not free to listen 582 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: to podcasts? 583 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: Hear Bolsonnaro, We can hope. 584 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: After trying to cut off his ankle monitor, he has 585 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: been taken into custody for attempting or probably trying to escape. 586 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: Trump had made comments about it, expecting to see him soon. Yeah, 587 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think he's gonna die in prison. 588 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: He's not doing well. I will say one thing we 589 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: got to do. You know, back when he got stabbed, 590 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: I think everyone's opinion on it was like, oh, fuck, 591 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: you've just you know, you've made him a martyr. You 592 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: got to look cool and seem like a badass. This 593 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: has done nothing but empower him. 594 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: No, it cares. No. 595 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: Actually, that stab did a lot of damage, Like that 596 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: ruined his life, low key. Yeah, So thoughts and prayers 597 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: to that guy wherever he is. You know, we just 598 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: didn't realize the level of game that you had, my man. 599 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's it's it's tough. I mean we 600 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: used to have the two like of the world sickest men, 601 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: Bolsonnaro and Stephen Crowder, just fighting it out to see 602 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: who would stay sicker for a long But Jordan Peterson 603 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: that seems like erasia. Yeah, he's taking the spot because 604 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 3: he's still vanished from the Daily Wire because of his 605 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: like bizarre His. 606 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: Daughter says he's basically dead. 607 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like patient zero for CWD and humans or something. Right, 608 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: Like the Daily Wire still is acting like Peterson's is 609 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: like still a person. 610 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out Cold Turkey quitting Benzos via a 611 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: fucking coma in Russia is a bad call. 612 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of Crowder, I did watch the two hours Stephen 613 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: Crowder Nick Fuentez interview this week. Oh God, and it 614 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: was really uncomfortable. 615 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll bet I can imagine. 616 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: They were just like jerking each other off for two hours. 617 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: Nick was trying to be nice and like not act 618 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 3: like Steven's this like like totally irrelevant like boomer, and 619 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: Stephen was trying to make Nick think he was cool, 620 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: and it was so painful to watch the entire time. Wat. 621 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 622 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: It was bad. There was nothing else notable from that. 623 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: I guess let's actually move to some notable notable stories 624 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: to close this episode. 625 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I want to talk about the case of 626 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 6: Fustino Pablo Pablo. A US District court in El Paso, 627 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 6: Texas has granted mister Pablo Pablo a tentative restraining order 628 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: directing the government to return him to the United States 629 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 6: by the twelfth of this month, which will be the 630 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 6: day that you are hearing this episode. Mister Pablo Pablo 631 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 6: entered the USA in twenty twelve and was found removal 632 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: by a judge. However, that judge granted his application for 633 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 6: withholding of removal under the Convention against Torture because he 634 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: would likely be tortured if he was returned to Guatemala, 635 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 6: which is where from In theory, he was removable therefore 636 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 6: to a place where he would not likely be tortured. Right, 637 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: this is what we've seen the US government doing more 638 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 6: and more in the last year. Really, he spent more 639 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 6: than a decade. He moved to California, attended his ICE 640 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 6: check ins until he was detained an ICE check in 641 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: on the fifth of November. Mister Pablo Pablo's lawyer filed 642 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 6: a habeas petition and asked the court to enjoin ICE 643 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 6: from removing him from the Western District of Texas, which 644 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 6: is where they took him on the seventeenth of November. Right, 645 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 6: so he was detained on the fifth. People who listened 646 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: to my immigration series a couple of weeks ago will 647 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 6: be familiar with this. Right, people were detained in La 648 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 6: ferried all around California, and then sent to Texas. 649 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: This is what happened in his case. 650 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 6: He wouldn't have been sent to the same place for 651 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 6: people in my serious work, because that's for family detention. 652 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 6: By the time the court ordered the government not to 653 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 6: remove him, they had already sent him back to Guatemala, 654 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 6: just to cover There is one country in the world 655 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 6: that he has withholding of removal to because he will 656 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 6: be tortured there most likely, and that is where they 657 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 6: sent him. The government conceded that they had made a 658 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 6: mistake and said they quote tentatively scheduled a flight for 659 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 6: the fourth of December. He did not take that flight. 660 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 6: As far as we know, he is doing water Mala. 661 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 6: He's in hiding and the court has ordered that the 662 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 6: government facilitate his return by the twelfth of this month, 663 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 6: so we'll probably update you on that in next week's ed. 664 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about an expansion of social media monitoring, 665 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: which we've already seen for visa applicants, but now expanding 666 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: out to tourists as well. Customs of Border Protection and 667 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: DHS have posted a sixty day notice for a proposal 668 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: to revise the Electronics system for Travel Authorization Application, which 669 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: is a waiver that some foreign tourists can use to 670 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: avoid getting a tourist visa, and the proposal is to 671 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: add mandatory social media collection for all foreign tourists using 672 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: the ESTA visa waiver. This proposal would require that applicants 673 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: provide the social media information from the past five years, 674 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 3: citing a January Executive order quote protecting the United States 675 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety 676 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: threats un quote. This would match the sort of social 677 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 3: media monitoring we've seen applied to some visa applicants and immigrants, 678 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: just now extending out to tourists using the ESTA application, 679 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: and to comply with this January Executive order, CBP is 680 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: also planning to add quote several high value data fields 681 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: to the ESTA application when feasible unquote. This would include 682 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: quote telephone numbers used in the last five years, email 683 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: address is used in the last ten years, IP addresses 684 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: and metadata from electronically submitted photos, family member names, parents, spouse, siblings, children, 685 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 3: family telephone numbers used in the last five years, family 686 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 3: member dates of birth, family member places of birth, family 687 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: member residences, biometric face, fingerprint, DNA and IRIS, business telephone 688 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: numbers used in the last five years, and business email 689 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: addresses used in the last ten years unquote. 690 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a wild amount of data. I mean 691 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 6: they can flash some of this like really quickly again 692 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 6: against like quote unquote watch lists, right, Yeah, but some 693 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: of this A like to gather this data to gather 694 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 6: biometric data, that's not possible with like you say, you're 695 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 6: applying on your cell phone or your your home computer, right, 696 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 6: so this might require an appointment. 697 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, for some of the fingerprint stuff. Part of the 698 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 3: proposal is also requiring selfie be submitted with this application, 699 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: separate from whatever's on the ID that is being used, 700 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: and so they can extract some like facial biometrics from that. Yeah, 701 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: but they can also they can also collect that stuff 702 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: like at the airport Reports ad Ventry. They have fingerprint 703 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: scanners now at a lot of these like entry kiosks. Yeah. Yeah, 704 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 3: the selfie isn't just a selfie. 705 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 6: It's what's called a facial liveness scan, which is what 706 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 6: we've spoken about before with CBP one right that like 707 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: notoriously was very poor at capturing black faces. 708 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: Generally, you sort of. 709 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 6: Have to like move the phone around your face to 710 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 6: check that it's like it's not me holding up a 711 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 6: life sized copy of Garrison. 712 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: It's actually Garrison, a three D Garrison. 713 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the Garrison mannequin that we all 714 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 6: got for Christmas last year. 715 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: Can you can excuse that one to me? Sorry, it's 716 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 3: not legal in New York. 717 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, this will make it a lot harder for people 718 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 6: to apply for est divisas. It's going to create a massive, 719 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 6: like dragnet of data for people applying for est visas. 720 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 6: I'm guessing that kind of is the goal already, right, So, like, 721 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 6: if you live in these countries, you don't always qualify 722 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 6: for an esther. There are certain things you could have done, 723 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 6: saying countries you could have been to certain like if 724 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 6: you have a criminal record, et cetera, where there you 725 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 6: wouldn't be able to get an esther. So this is 726 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 6: kind of already a something of a like a pre 727 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 6: vetted group and and countries who from which systems can 728 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 6: apply for esters? 729 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: Is that in itself? It's like a tea right now 730 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 3: everyone in the world can apply for an esther. Yeah, 731 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: it's already a semi exclusive waiver with like a cost 732 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: burden as well. 733 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, it creates a massive data data mind 734 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 6: which I'm guessing might be what they what they're going for. 735 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just the normalization of this sort of 736 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: like social media scantting to identify, you know, undesirable political 737 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: beliefs that Mark Rubio in the Department in the Department 738 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: of State or DHS and deems it's like a national 739 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 3: security threat. Yeah. 740 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have kind of my fringe fears that 741 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: this will be used to train It's fair, but yeah, 742 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: we'll say, yeah, how is this not going to be 743 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: catastrophic for any business that relies on tourism, any state 744 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: that relies on tourism, right, Like. 745 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: Like yeah, Florida. 746 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's not the top risk, but like 747 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: it just seems again they're they're going out of their 748 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: way to fuck over every single demographic in the country, 749 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: which I don't think is going to work out for 750 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 2: them in the long term. 751 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a uh, this is yeah, this is a 752 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 6: weird one for me because it's the Yeah, the economic 753 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 6: cost is so obvious. 754 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: It's a it's a catastrophe, And there's a part of 755 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: me that's like, maybe this is a good thing, just 756 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: because it's part of like, right, we've always known and 757 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: have tried have been trying to say, for years, every 758 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: single aspect, like they these people are bad for everybody. 759 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: There's like one hundred and fifty people in the country 760 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: who benefit from the policies that like the most extreme 761 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: parts of the right wants to push, and everyone else 762 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: is going to be completely fucked over by it, and 763 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: we might as well just take the mask off. Like 764 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: and maybe that's some of what we're seeing in the 765 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: collapse of Trump's approval is people realizing, like, oh my god, 766 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: these guys really just want to destroy everything good about 767 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: life like that. 768 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: That is conservatism in a nutshell. 769 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: We hate life and ourselves. 770 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, that's that was the Democratic Party in 771 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: that symptoms. 772 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: But we want what's worse for everybody. There's yeah, yeah, 773 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 3: you got it. 774 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, talking of worse for everybody. 775 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 6: Do we want to talk about the National Security Strategy 776 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 6: document that the Trump administration released, go for it. 777 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we should do a dedicated episode about that, but 778 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 2: we could talk briefly about it. 779 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: We have fifteen minutes. 780 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: That's not you saw fifteen Yeah. 781 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 6: I've pulled a lot of quotations from it, and we're 782 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 6: not gonna be able to discuss sort of them here. 783 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 6: I think we will have to discuss this probably next 784 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 6: year when we do the whole episode on it. It 785 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 6: is one of the more like, especially in terms of 786 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: like foreign relations, one of the more like. So this 787 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 6: is our ideology, this is our outlook, and these are 788 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 6: our goals documents that I've seen from this administration. Right, 789 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 6: they talk about how I'll just quote from it here. 790 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 6: American strategy since the end of the Cold War have 791 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 6: fallen short. They have been laundry lists of wishes or 792 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 6: desired end states, and have not clearly defined what we 793 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 6: want be instead stated vague platitudes and have often misjudged 794 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 6: what we should want. They talk about how they are 795 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 6: going to retain soft power. Soft power people now familiar 796 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 6: is a theory that Joseph Nye has an international relations 797 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 6: It's a power to compel or persuade rather than to force. Right, 798 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 6: the United States has been hemorrhaging soft power like someone 799 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 6: with their artery cut, like in the last twelve months, 800 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 6: like selft power is a fraction of what it was 801 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 6: a year ago. I find it very odd to see 802 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 6: them even mentioning that, to be honest, when like, I mean, 803 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 6: they have soft power. If you're Victor Orban talking of orban. 804 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 6: There's this incredible stuff about Europe. Here quote we want 805 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 6: to support allies in preserving the freelom and security of 806 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 6: Europe while restoring Europe's civilizational self confidence and Western identity 807 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 6: rist another quote that's good, this is wild. The larger 808 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 6: issues facing Europe include the activities of the European Union, 809 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 6: other transnational bodies undermine political liberty and sovereignty, migration policies 810 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 6: that are transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of 811 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 6: free speech and suppression of political opposition, creating birth rates, 812 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 6: and the loss of national identities and self confidence. Should 813 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 6: present trends continue, the continent will be unrecognizable in twenty 814 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 6: years or less, and then a missing skipping of it. 815 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: Here, we want Europe to remain European. This just sounds 816 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: like your average like white nationalists like Twitter posts. Yeah, no, yes, 817 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 3: it comes from Twitter, right, like very twitter brained like 818 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 3: types of politics. Yeah. 819 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 5: This guy has like a Greek statue avatar exactly. 820 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: I think it's really fun to say think of Europe 821 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 3: being like, I'm Europe. I have a lot of self 822 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: confidence issues. I can't really speak up for myself in 823 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 3: in in big groups like the European Union of Like, 824 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: come on, what do you mean self confidence to grow up? Yeah, 825 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: it's wild. 826 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 6: They're like, you know, they're they're saying that, like what 827 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 6: European people don't have enough, like like what European pride? 828 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: People don't respect my Western identity? 829 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 6: Like okay, yeah, notably, like for instance, the country of France, 830 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 6: a country which lacks self confidence and pride in its identity. 831 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 3: This is this has been an issue for a long time. 832 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 3: It's it's very funny to have this in like a U. 833 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 3: This is like a US foreign policy or national security documentary. 834 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is like these are the guiding principles of 835 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 6: our like foreign policy going forward. 836 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 3: And they're like jerking off about like Europe remaining European. 837 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, it's just like shit talking an entire continent. 838 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: No, America should think Europe is gay and we should 839 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: stay away from it. That's what our national security party 840 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: should be, is Europe is gay. We don't want to 841 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: deal with whatever Europe is doing. We're America. 842 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, leave us alone. Yeah that that ended really well 843 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 2: for us in the Yeah. 844 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 6: Well, there's almost like a like a like an early 845 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 6: twentieth century vibe to this document. They talk about the 846 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 6: Monroe doctrine. Yeah, they do, And they talk about the 847 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 6: Trump corollary to the Monroe doctrine, which they define as quote, 848 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 6: we will deny non hemispheric competitors the ability to position 849 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 6: forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control 850 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 6: strategically vital assets in our hemisphere. Which the people aren't 851 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 6: familiar with the Monroe doctrine. It's the US sort of 852 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 6: has a right and obligation to exercise some control over 853 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 6: the outcomes. 854 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 3: So the entire Western. 855 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 6: Hemisphere, like say Venezuela, Yes, that would be one example. 856 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 3: Kearton. Yeah, see, it's totally different from Iraq because this 857 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: is on our hemisphere. So it's good intervention actually mm hmm. Yeah. 858 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 6: Manifest destiny has given us the right to all of 859 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: the Americas, and so we can we can intervene in 860 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 6: outcomes there. There's a lot about thenation state in here, 861 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 6: and like the idea that they quote unquote nation state 862 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 6: should prioritize its own interests. I wonder what they're talking 863 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 6: about there, because like we have many nations that are 864 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 6: exclude different states all around the world, right, like the 865 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 6: Kurds being one example, right, Like are they like are 866 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 6: they saying that nations and states should always align, whilst 867 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 6: like their special end Voyage of Syria is saying that 868 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 6: he said this week the decentralization has never succeeded in 869 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 6: the Middle East, which is a wild statement to be 870 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 6: saying in a place where like you can drive in 871 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 6: a single day to the sites of three different genocides 872 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 6: from northeastern Syria, Right, you can see how the place 873 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 6: where the Armenian genocide happened, the CD genocide and the 874 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 6: on FH. Like you can do that driving the day, 875 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 6: if you don't get hung up at the border. 876 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, for now, if we're counting some 877 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: of what was done against the. 878 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: White yeah, yeah, that's a little unclear at the moment, 879 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 4: but yeah, sure. 880 00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 881 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 6: Like to say that centralzation as the only way from 882 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 6: the Middle East is a wild statement. 883 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 3: So I don't know how some of this pans out. 884 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 6: There's also a lot here on border security as national security, right, sure, 885 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 6: I'm just going to read one. They use the word 886 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 6: nation a lot. Nationalism was a subfielder by PhD. So obviously, 887 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 6: like I'm interested in the exact understanding of nation they 888 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 6: have here because there are several but throughout history, sovereign 889 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 6: nations prohibited uncontrolled migration a grated citizenship only rarely to 890 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 6: foreigners who also had to meet demanding criteria. The West 891 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 6: experience over the past decades vindicates this enduring wisdom in 892 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 6: country throughout the world, Mass migration as strained domestic resources, 893 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 6: increased violence out of the crime, weakened social cohesion, distorted 894 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 6: labor markets, and undermined national security. The era of mass 895 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 6: migration must end. Border security is the primary element of 896 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 6: national security. 897 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: Great, this is the only terrain they have left because 898 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 3: they've abandoned class interests and like exploitation. So the only 899 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 3: thing they can actually focus this on, and they focus, 900 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 3: like the focus the economy on is through nationalist immigration policies. 901 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: This is like the last refuge for the right once 902 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: they're still trying to appeal to some sort of populism 903 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: but don't actually want to address real class conditions. 904 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and for a lot of the right, when they 905 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 6: talk about nationalism, they are talking about ethno nationalism. The people, 906 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 6: you know, the people are the nation, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 907 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 6: the vulk like which is not always blends. So nationalism, 908 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 6: it's one type of nationalism. It's not all types of nationalism, right, Like. 909 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 3: That's the cool thing about the United States, And this 910 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 3: is the one country, one of the only countries where 911 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 3: this that principle has been like opposed in vary degrees 912 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 3: since the country is founding. 913 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, like it's supposed to be that the example, maybe 914 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 6: along with France, right of like subscriptive nationalism, where nationalism 915 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 6: was not an ethnic quality, it was subscribing to a 916 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 6: set of values and belief philosophical idea. Yeah, that does 917 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 6: not seem to be the vibe I'm picking up. There's 918 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 6: a lot more in this document. They spend a decent 919 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 6: part of its ship talking other document, other previous national 920 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 6: security strategies. 921 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 3: Yea, these are always good for both. But we're going 922 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: to keep it brief and then off they go. 923 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's it's worth us maybe doing 924 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 6: the whole episode on because I think it's one of 925 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 6: the more like coherent statements of believery. Not not a 926 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 6: lot of this stuff is new. We knew that's how 927 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 6: they thought about immigration. 928 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear them talk about it on Fox on 929 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 3: News Max. Like any Stephen Miller like public statement is 930 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,479 Speaker 3: you know it's going to talk about talk about how 931 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, immigration is changing, you know, the economic makeup 932 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 3: of the country, and like the core identity of the 933 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 3: country is changing, which to defend Western identity, that sort 934 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 3: of stuff. 935 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 6: Yes, seeing it all written in document together, I think 936 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 6: is where this has value totally. And I think, yeah, 937 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 6: seeing that all laid out, seeing the you know, the 938 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 6: way these things play into their view of the world, 939 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 6: and then as I following what's actually happening in the world, 940 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 6: and like, you know clearly that when they're talking, they're 941 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 6: talking about the United States. When they're talking about nations, right, 942 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,959 Speaker 6: they're not talking about the Kurds, They're not talking about 943 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 6: your Zds, the Catalans, other nations that have states. 944 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 4: Right. 945 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 3: It's just so funny because they lay out all these 946 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,760 Speaker 3: economic things, right, straining domestic resources, violence and crime, weakened 947 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 3: social cohesion, and and destroyed labor markets. Right, they lay 948 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: out all of these things which have direct like like 949 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: economic causal drivers. Yeah, and they're like, no, no, no, no, 950 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 3: it's actually not about these economic factors. It's just about immigration. 951 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: Like they're so it's so blatant. 952 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, other ideology and history escape go to a 953 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 6: certain group for the economic disaster in a country that's 954 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 6: never happened before. 955 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just one for one. If you go back 956 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 5: to moish Postone's theory of like structural anti Semitism as 957 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 5: the driver of the Holocaust, it's literally just this, right, 958 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 5: except this is an even more blatant version of it. 959 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 3: Seem like the Nazis, even though did try to do 960 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 3: some like populist economic policies as well. 961 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, the Strength through Joy program. 962 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, the modern American right doesn't even try to do that. 963 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 3: It's just the immigration. They're not even doing like a 964 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 3: weird like like right wing like socialized there. 965 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 4: There's all this I'll push back. 966 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of like the talk with oh, 967 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a give every American thousand dollars that 968 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 2: will be invested in that. 969 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 4: Like there's they are like. 970 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: They talk about it, they don't do it. They don't 971 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 3: do it. They talk about it. Yes, sometimes, Yeah, he 972 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: talked about a tariff check. Right, Trump was going to 973 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: give every every Americans check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 974 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 6: The first time they date during COVID, right, they threw 975 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 6: some money around, but. 976 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: There was that like, yeah, one or two stimulus checks 977 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 3: we got at the end of COVID. Yeah, the end 978 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 3: of a first you know, batch of the pandemic cycle 979 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 3: to be more accurate. Yeah, yeah, Robbert, was there one 980 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 3: other thing you wanted to talk about? We have time. 981 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is basically related to the Warner Brothers acquisition. 982 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Reddit's algorithm will periodically give me little 983 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: hints and bits of the war between Zack Snyder fans 984 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 2: and the rest of the world. 985 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know a lot about this. I know 986 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 3: a lot about this. 987 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm not a big Zack Snyder fan, you know, but 988 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: I don't care. Like I didn't feel strongly anti or pro. 989 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 4: His his DC movies. 990 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: There are some crazy people out there who believe and 991 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: they are like reading the tea leaves. They think the 992 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 2: Saudis are going to like kill his enemies, They're. 993 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 3: Going to restore the Snyder for Strobert. Yeah, you know 994 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: this is I've been following this just as like a 995 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: personal interest. 996 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 4: For you nuts. It's crazy. 997 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 3: They're fascinating people, like they're fascinating you. 998 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: Unique people to study, Like the number of people who 999 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: literally believe that it Like there should be people executed 1000 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: publicly for for not letting Zack Snyder finish his movies. 1001 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 4: That didn't make money. 1002 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: Is out because well because Netflix has part of with 1003 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 3: Snyder for you years. When when if Netflix takes over, 1004 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 3: they're obviously going to restore the Snyder Verse. James Gunn 1005 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 3: is going to be You're going. 1006 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 2: To restore the Snyder paramount, take over the saudis we 1007 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: can do it too. 1008 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 3: So it's it's really for Snyder bros. Things are looking up, 1009 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 3: So put your money in Snyder coin right now. 1010 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: Well, my favorite thing about that is that like as 1011 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: soon as they announced the deal, they were like, and 1012 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 2: James Gunn is staying, And they talked a lot about 1013 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: him on the call because like his movies are a 1014 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 2: big part of what makes what are valuable right now? 1015 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: Right Like he's good at making money for the people 1016 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 2: that he works for. And the level of conspiracy theories 1017 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: like no they have it's like, Q, it's great have 1018 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: to hide Zack Snyder's back because they can't let people. 1019 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 4: Know yet, but he's already been told. 1020 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 3: He's been doing this for like eight years. 1021 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I had not realized how crazy they were. Yeah, 1022 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 2: I love it. It's really fun. 1023 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 4: Anyway. 1024 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: That that's I always enjoy encountering a new cult I 1025 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 2: think Zach is kind of taking advantage to them to 1026 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 2: get his insight follower account. 1027 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very. 1028 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: Funny because he's like posting stuff that's like they're reading. 1029 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: Is like he's messaging that it's coming back. Even when 1030 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 2: guys like Ben afflecks like it was the worst. I 1031 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: hated being Batman. I would never do that again. I 1032 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 2: don't want to be It's I I love it. I 1033 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: just love seeing deranged people be arranged about something that's 1034 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 2: actually harmless for once. Yeah, we could get we could 1035 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: get a Snyder Verse related shooting. That's not impossible. 1036 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 3: Snyder does encourage it a little bit. But Snyder is not, 1037 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: I think, the villain of this story. 1038 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 2: And no, he's clearly friends with Gun like they're they're no. 1039 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 3: No, yeah, and I uh. Specifically, he has dropped his plans, 1040 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,919 Speaker 3: which which he had for years, to do some eind 1041 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 3: randed adaptions, which I'm bummed about because I think Snyder's 1042 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: eind would be great, and instead instead he's writing this 1043 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 3: like this like lesbian movie with. 1044 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 4: Someone with tetah. 1045 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so unfortunately we're trading iron Rand for like 1046 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 3: this like lesbian cinema slop, which I am. 1047 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 4: I am just lean I am really about because. 1048 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: I think I think Zack Snyder's Iron Rand would be 1049 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 3: a much more fascinating piece of art. 1050 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: No, No, I want to see Ben Shapiro get one 1051 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million. 1052 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 4: That's what I've got. 1053 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1054 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 3: No, they bought exclusive TV rights to one of the 1055 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 3: one of the books I forget, forget if I forget if 1056 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: it was fountain Head or Atlas Shrugged. But since the 1057 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 3: Daily Wires like finances have collapsed, I do not think 1058 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 3: they're going forward with that right now. 1059 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 2: Oh but but gare the pendragonsight it's coming out though. 1060 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm excited, right We got to watch that together. We 1061 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: gotta find it, we gotta we gotta have the company 1062 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 2: pay for us to meet in the Airbnb in a 1063 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: state and and just just watch that, son of a bit. 1064 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 3: If we want to this year to plan some kind 1065 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 3: of a cool zone convergence to to to watch uh, 1066 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 3: to watch the pen Dragon cycle together, I would I 1067 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 3: would hapily travel for that. 1068 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 4: I think we're ethically obligated to do that. 1069 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 5: Okay, final final closing note. Trans housing insecurity continuing to increase, 1070 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 5: But if you have an extra room, put a transperson in. 1071 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 5: If you have a couch, put a trans girl on 1072 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 5: your couch. This is going to be beas the message 1073 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 5: going forward. Jesus Christ. People just put a trans girl 1074 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 5: on your couch. You can figure out how to live together. 1075 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,240 Speaker 5: It will be fine. People are going homeless and dying, 1076 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 5: please do this. 1077 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 2: Wait, is there like data on like what's what's Is 1078 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 2: this just as a result of like the continuing like 1079 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: people being forced out of their jobs? 1080 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is this is all this is. 1081 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 5: This is me finally talking about something I've been tracking 1082 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 5: for a very very long time, which is I mean 1083 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 5: I say a very long time. But you know, even 1084 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 5: over about the past four or five years, has been 1085 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 5: massive transmigration into places like Portland, into places like Chicago, 1086 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 5: into places like New York. 1087 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 3: They're getting housing in New York. There's a lot of 1088 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 3: a lot of transh housing in New York. I think this. Yeah, 1089 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 3: there's there's there's some regional aspects of this. Don't come 1090 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 3: to San Diego. 1091 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 2: We yeah, it make it makes sense that this cities 1092 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 2: that are safer having like a big influat and there's 1093 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people, those are also cities that do 1094 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 2: not have great housing supply. 1095 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 4: YEA yeah. 1096 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nearly balloon. 1097 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 5: And there's been a lot of issues with it, and 1098 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 5: that's something that can be mitigated by just putting people 1099 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 5: on your couch. 1100 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's as a short terms maybe I 1101 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 3: don't honestly the couch thing freaks me out. As a 1102 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 3: long term solution. 1103 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 5: Well, but I mean that's the thing though, it doesn't 1104 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 5: have to be a long term. 1105 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: People have connections to help other people get jobs. Yeah, 1106 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 3: so they get like like pay pay a low amount 1107 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: of rent for like a room that's way more solid 1108 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: than like this like forever couch surfing thing that sometimes 1109 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 3: people like refer to as like quote unquote transhousing. 1110 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1111 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 5: Okay, but again, but the idea here is that there, 1112 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 5: and this is just something that I have running too extensively, 1113 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 5: is there are a bunch of people who basically just 1114 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 5: need to get out and need like a couple of 1115 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 5: months or a month to get back on their feet 1116 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 5: and don't have the ability to do it and are 1117 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 5: going homeless because of that, and it's killing people and 1118 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 5: fucking sucks. Yeah, and that is something that can be 1119 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 5: mitigated with sort of cultural shifts towards sharing space more. 1120 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 5: And we're all gonna have to do it more because 1121 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 5: the economy is about to collapse even more so. 1122 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 4: Great fun. 1123 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 5: Yay, put transcoll on your couch. 1124 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 6: If you would like to email us, you can do 1125 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 6: sert by emailing cool Zone Tips at proton dot me. 1126 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 6: Many of you already have, I'm sure there are more 1127 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 6: of you to come. 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