1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. Hey, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: welcome back to Inside the Draft, our weekly look at 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: the upcoming NFL drafter in the Colts Audio Network, cults 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: dot Com, and the Colts Mobile app. I'm Matt Taylor. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: We're just days away from the first pick going off 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the board. It's finally here. The Carolina Panthers will set 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: the draft in motion coming up on Thursday night with 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the first pick. The Colts currently have the fourth overall pick. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: They also possess pick number thirty five in the second round, 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: a pick in rounds three and four, three picks in 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: round five, and two picks in round number seven. And 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: joining us today to preview the draft. Emery Hunt, NFL 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: draft insider from CBS and CBS Sports HQ, and a 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: former running back himself at Lafayette with the Rage in Cajuns. Emory, 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: thanks for the time today. How are you. 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine, man, I appreciate you guys bringing me 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: on a show. 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: So let's start with you being a former running back. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Mry Let's begin there, because one of the best running 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: backs in this draft based on the projections is b 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Jehan Robinson out of Texas. But there's this debate and 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: muffled hype about his value because of the position that 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: he plays at running back. The myth is you don't 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: draft running backs in the first round because you can 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: get good value on those guys later in the draft, 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and first round running backs don't get second contracts. Anyways, 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: where are you on Robinson in this draft and where 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable drafting him based on his versatility? 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people just talk just 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: to talk when they speak about that particular position and 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: taking guys in the first round. We know the elite 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: talent goes in the first round. I'm not gonna not 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: take Barry Sanders in round one because I can get 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Darrynton Evans in round six. No, that's just dumb. I'm 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: gonna take the best player early and there's no shade 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: to Darrnton Evans. And I said all that to say, 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: when you think about b Jon Robinson and his elite talent, 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: you think about the bar gifts and his elite talent, 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: and you think about those two things in the same 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: breath that people say, well, you don't get these guys 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: a second contract well, wouldn't it make more sense to 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: take the elite talents then in the first round so 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: you can get that fifty year And if you decide 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: after that, okay, let's go back into the first round, 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: get another one and not resign this guy, or we 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: should extend them. It makes sense to get them while 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: they're younger in round one as opposed to on the 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: back end. And the thing about it is we do 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: this with every other position except running back. And when 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: it's week six or week nine out there on the field, 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: no one cares that Jonathan Taylor went round too. They 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: just want him to continue to rushing four touchdowns and 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: a lot of yards in big game. So I totally 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: just missed the nonsense that people spell out there. There's 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a lot of people talking loud on Twitter. And then 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: it also me to become a self fulfilling prophecy, you know, 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: because when you have a Jonathan Taylor going in round two, 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: well see look at you get Jonathan Tiller round two. 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Well he should have win in round one. 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. And 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: with Robinson specifically, a man you've seen him line up 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: in the slot. He can obviously carry the football. He 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: can catch the ball out of the backfield. I mean 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: just overall football player wise. Where does he rank with 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: other playmakers in this draft in terms of value and 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: bang for your buck? Because of all that he can 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: do well, he's. 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: The first round talent, but he's not by number one 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: running back. My number one running back is Jamiir Gibs. 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: And when I excapulated my grades over the course of 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: four seasons twenty twenty to twenty twenty three, Vjon finishes 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: third with his grade behind Jamiir Gibbs and DeAndre Swift. 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: I was a big DeAndre Swift fan coming out of Georgia. 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: I just feel like you touched on it. When you 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: have a guy like Vjon and also a guy like 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: Jamira Gibbs that runs route like receivers, it makes you 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: a complete back in today's game. It makes you a 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: complete threat and a game breaker, And to me, game 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: breakers deserve to go in round one. So if I 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: need to, if I was one of these teams like 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: the you know, the Dolphins, who don't have a first 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: round pick, trying to figure out how I can get 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: myself back in the first round. If I'm a team 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: like Buffalo, or even a team like New Orleans or Philly. 86 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: People talk about our Tampa Bay. There's a lot of 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: teams that could use V John or gives in this class. 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's hone in on quarterbacks, now, Emery, how 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: close is your evaluation? Give me your evaluation of CJ. 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce Young, because these are the two guys 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: you always read about and hear about going first and 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: second in whatever order. Which one do you have more 93 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: confidence in to have a long, consistent and productive career. 94 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: I view this quarterback class like I viewed the twenty 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: seventeen class, and so back then, my grades were watching 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: Mahomes and Deshaun Kaises one, two, and three with the 97 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: same grade, right, and so I didn't care who you 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: took out of those three. Now in this class, I 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: look at it as Richardson's Young Stroud in that order, 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: but all have the same grade. So whether you want 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to make a case for Stroud or make a case 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: for Young, I'm fine either way. I think both guys 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: are excellent quarterbacks. They win in different ways. I compared 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Stroud to more of a Troy Aikman type. You know, 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: a guy that is gonna win consistently, from the pocket, 106 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: has good pocket mobility, very accurate like Troy Aikman. That's 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: where the comp comes from. His accuracy is ridiculous and 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: his placement is ridiculous. Young is a little bit more dynamic. 109 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: He's more of the Russell Wilson type, a guy that 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: can scramble. Not necessarily a dynamic runner, but he can 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: run and also does a good job of sliding and 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: getting himself out of dodge. And Richardson is the one 113 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: that is I would swing defences for because I like 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: the athleticism and I like the potential of a guy 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: that's twenty years old and one of his biggest knocks 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: is experience, which you should be able to give him 117 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: that if you draft him in the first round. 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, Emory looking at the they're a fascinating part 119 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: of this equation when you factor in the top four 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: picks in the draft. Colt's currently sitting there at number four. 121 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: You know Demiko Ryans now they're head coach in Houston. 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Comes from San Francisco where they had a great roster. 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't all about the quarterback, you know. That's why 124 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: they were maybe able to sustain the injury to Jimmy 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: Garoppolo go far in the playoffs with the rookie quarterback 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: drafted in the seventh round in brock Purty. To me, 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: it's all about their evaluation. Do the Texans do you 128 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: think they see C. J. Stroud worthy of the second pick? 129 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And how surprised would you be if the Texans didn't 130 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: draft the quarterback there at too. 131 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if they didn't take a 132 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: quarterback at two. I feel like if you're sitting at 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: two and you're Houston, you got to have a high 134 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: grade on two of the three quarterbacks that I mentioned, 135 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: because to me, they got to get that position right. 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: I think that team is ready to compete in the division. 137 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent in Houston. They just didn't 138 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: have the guy that can trust consistently week out under center. 139 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: And so when you add more talent to that and 140 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: you have a guy that can at least steady the 141 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 2: shift as a competent rookie, I think you give yourself 142 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: a change. So I feel like if they're doing their 143 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: job the right way and then they'll have a high 144 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: grade or feel comfortable enough with two of the three guys. 145 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say all three, but two of 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: the three guys then it could be a problem for 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: them this upcoming season. 148 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: That's Emory hunt with us. And you mentioned Anthony Richardson 149 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: in the previous question, doubling back to him, you know, 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: teams maybe swinging for the fences to grab him. What's 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: your confidence level in him going to the NFL because 152 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: most gms, Emory, they're big believers in accuracy and winning 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: from inside the pocket. Ultimately, that's what the game comes 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: down to. How confident are you that he's going to 155 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: be better in the NFL in those two areas playing 156 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: from the pocket and be more accurate. 157 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Extremely confident because a lot of the things that you 158 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: mentioned are things that he's proven on tape. When you 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: think about Anthony Richardson and a big reason why he's 160 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: my number one, you talk about can he go up 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: in levels and play consistently against better competition? Well, guess 162 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: what he played the SEC that's the best of the best, right. 163 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: So you look at his completion percentage and a lot 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: of times it's just funny numbers with completion percentages, and 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: if you look at his receiver corps, they weren't that good. 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: So what if I say I'm gonna surround him with 167 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: an Alex Pears, with the Isaiah Michael Pittman, with a 168 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Moley Cox and those guys. I think his completion percentage 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: is gonna jump up within the highest sixties. Oh, by 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: the way, you got to be able to win in 171 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: situational football, and I think he did a great job situationally. 172 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: That's converting on third downs, that's inside the red zone. 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Why because of his athleticism, not just to get out 174 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: there and perhaps break it for an eighty r run, 175 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: but for his ability to move within the pocket and 176 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,359 Speaker 2: find someone deeper down the field. And his default accuracy 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: is actually the best in the class. So for me, 178 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: I think all of his issues are completely team related. 179 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: That's why ideally I would love to see him go 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: to Indianapolis. I think that's a Taylor made pun intended 181 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: fit for him because I can see him paired with 182 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Johnson Taylor and Taylor probably approaching two thousand yards rushing 183 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: because of the added benefit of the mobile quarterback in 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: the pocket. And so when I look at Richardson, it's 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: not like he has fatal flaws. This was his first 186 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: year starting. He probably should have started last year over 187 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: Emrie Jones, and the one game I always point people 188 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: too is a twenty one game against LSU where he 189 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: proved this was a guy that should be the starter 190 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: and played a great game, a great game that shows 191 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: he can overcome adversity, can win from the pocket, can 192 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: win when you need him to, and did a great 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: job overcoming the early mistake he made in that game 194 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: to get them back in the ball game to have 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: a chance to win on the last drop. 196 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: So you've got Richardson as your top quarterback, you have 197 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: him as as in terms of being in consideration there 198 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: at number one overall. If you're the Carolina Panthers, you 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: would highly entertain that. 200 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: I would highly entertain it. I always always ask coaches, 201 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: especially coaches defensive minded, which quarterback would you not want 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: to face? Ten times out of ten LC, I don't 203 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: want the guys that I have to account for with 204 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: my eleventh guy, because defenses are usually playing from that 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: advantage all the time. So when you have to now 206 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: account for an Anthony Richardson to you know, not only 207 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: just take off and scramble and get down, but this 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: joker can go eighty yards like this is insane. That's 209 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: the worst type of quarterback to face. And I'm not 210 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: saying that other guys aren't mobile, but I'd rather face 211 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: the mobile guys than the dynamically mobile guys. Though Richardson 212 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: would be highly in consideration for me, especially if I'm 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: a team like either Houston or Indianapolis. 214 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: All Right, fascinating stuff, great stuff, Emery Hunt is with us. 215 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: And going one one step further, I guess one pick below, 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: what do you see happening with the third pick? And 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: do the Cardinals stay at three or do you see 218 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: that being traded? And who do you think might be 219 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: in the mix in the running to grab that pick? 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Team wise, if quarterbacks go one to two respectively, you 221 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: know what's going on on the phone lines with that 222 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: third pick, and what does Arizona want and what would 223 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: ultimately cause them to trade back and make that third 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: pick up for sale. 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: The worst thing that happened in Arizona was Carolina trading 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: up to number one, because if you were going to 227 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 2: entertain offers, you kind of have to look at it like, 228 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: all right, you got to give me, obviously multiple first 229 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: round picks, but you have to give me a starter 230 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: in return too, because there's no way on le bron 231 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: James Internet, Am I passing up Will Anderson? That to 232 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: me is a Trail Sucks clone And they need help defensively, 233 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: they need help on both sides of the ball. And 234 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: you won't be able to trade down to get Will Anderson. 235 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: You would probably have to trade down to four if Indy, 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: if you trust Indy and you trust him Ersey and 237 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: not change his mind, and you know the last second 238 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: say hey man, we're taking a quarterback. Okay, cool, We'll 239 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: move down one spot and then he is. Now we're 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 2: gonna take Will Anderson. I will be hot if I'm Arizona. 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: But if I'm Arizona, I'm stans pat. I'm taking the 242 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: guy that affects the passer, that also affects the guy 243 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: as mobile in the backfield. Give me that disruptive force 244 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: up front, because you still have to win within the 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: trenches in the NFL, and that will be hard have 246 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: to pass on the Will Anderson. 247 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: All right, what other draft needs do you have for 248 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: the Colts and reassuming they take a quarterback there at four, 249 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: or maybe they move up, we'll see how it goes. 250 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: But assuming they draft a quarterback in round number one, 251 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: what else do you want? To see out of the 252 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Colts in terms of draft needs and things they need 253 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: to address in this draft starting in round two. The 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: rest of the way, I would. 255 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Say defensive back. And the reason why I say defensive 256 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: back and not specifically corner or you know, strong fainty 257 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: or something like that. I feel like they need to 258 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: get a guy that has that positionless value. They need corners. Obviously, 259 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: you got young players there. Obviously you love Kenny Moore 260 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: Isaiah Roders. I love the way he competes, but you know, 261 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: you kind of want someone that can give you that 262 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: lockdown presence on the opp side. Dallas Flowers a tremendous 263 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: special teamer and a really good defender as well. But 264 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: I feel like another guy there is needed, especially with 265 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: the way they've dealt with those injuries over the course 266 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: of the last couple of seasons. So I feel like 267 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: defensive back, whether you go corner or safety, is someone 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: that they should target in that second round. 269 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: Hey, doubling back to quarterbacks, I apologize Hendon Hooker for you. 270 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: Where would Hooker rank for you had it not been 271 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: for his injury? Where would he rank among these other 272 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: top four quarterbacks that we so consistently talk about in 273 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: Young and Stroud and Richardson and Levis, where would Hooker 274 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: be if everything was even and he was healthy and 275 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: continued to have his terrific campaign that he was having 276 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: last year at Tennessee. 277 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Well, to me, Hooker right now has he's graded out 278 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: as my QB six, so he's behind jarn Hall, and 279 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: for him and Jarn Hall, the quarterback out of BYU, 280 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: they I have the same issue with both guys. One 281 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: is their age because they're older prospects, but you also 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: have the injury concern Hooker now you have the ACL injury. 283 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: With Hall it was mainly concussions and a few knick 284 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: knacks over the course of his career. So both guys, 285 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: with that being a backdrop, I think they are with 286 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: they are, which is fine if so for me, it 287 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: would be teams specific. For so, let's say if you're 288 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: Houston and you don't want to take a Bright Young 289 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: or CJ. Strauter or Anthony Richardson that too, but you 290 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: think you can get him the Hooker at the top 291 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: of round two or Baby trade back in to get 292 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: a third first round pick, then you do it. If 293 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: you're the Raiders and you miss out on the top 294 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: three guys, and you get a position player at number 295 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: seven and you want another young guy at quarterback, Hooker 296 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: will be the guy already in the second round. I 297 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: feel like those guys are, you know, more at their ceiling. 298 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: They're ready to play. So it would be more for 299 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: a team that needs a guy that can a veteran 300 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: guy that can help guide the ship or drive the buck. 301 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: I know. I mean that case for Bryce Young or 302 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: CD Strout, but they still have upside potentially because of 303 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: their age. But someone like Hooker could be that second 304 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: round starter like we saw in Andy Dalton, like we 305 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: saw a Colin Kaepernick. Some of those guys that come 306 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: in the second round and play really well. 307 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: All right, last thing with you, Emery, give me your 308 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: late first round pick or multiple picks. Just a handful 309 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: of guys that we're not talking about going in to 310 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the first round of the draft that are gonna make 311 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: a difference in their first year in the NFL. Right, 312 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: we don't really know their names now, but this time 313 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: next year we're going to reflect on their rookie seasons 314 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, that guy was a big steal or 315 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: had really good value based on where he was drafted 316 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: in the first round. 317 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you go in the first round, 318 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: but I would be the first one to make the 319 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: case for Dayon Henley, the linebacker of Washington State. Every 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: time I watch him play, whether it was live and 321 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: you know, when I'm preparing for a broadcast and watching 322 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: the Washington State Wisconsin game, he's making tackles all over 323 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: the field, or when I was down at the Senior 324 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: Bowl and he's locking up running back in one on 325 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: ones and catching interceptions, or when I watch him on 326 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: and watching him lock up receivers and I'm like, this 327 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: guy is always a round at football. He reminds me 328 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: so much of Fred Warner and what he brings to 329 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: the table. And when you factor in he's a player 330 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: that was a former receiver now playing linebacker of that 331 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: aspect of it. And also I've become now more a 332 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: fan of Darius Rush to the corner from South Carolina 333 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: as opposed to his teammate Camp Smith. Again, former college 334 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: wide receiver making a transition to corner, goes down to 335 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, does a fantastic job as the best 336 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: cornerback practice that I've ever seen a cornerback at the 337 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. You watch him compete. You go back to 338 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: the tape, you watch what he did playing opposite of 339 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: a Cam Smith. Teams tried to me he was able 340 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: to answer the call. He tried to think of Okay. 341 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: Richard Sherman had the same trajectory. I can see that 342 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: for Darius Rush. 343 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: Great stuff. Emery Hunt, NFL Draft Insider for CBS Sports, 344 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: CBS Sports HQ Emory. Lastly, where are we going to 345 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: see you around draft time? Hype up the content that 346 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: you're going to be a part of, and how do 347 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you consume the draft and break it all down so 348 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: people can find your work? Well? 349 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: Listen, follow me on Twitter at f Ball game Plan. 350 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Right now, you can go and get the largest draft 351 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: guide in existence. It's the Football game Plan twenty twenty 352 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: three Draft Guide, over one thousand individual scouting reports. No 353 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: one has that available. They can't tell you they have 354 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: that because it doesn't exist outside of mind. That's where 355 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: you would find a Dallas Flowers scouting report, a Rodney 356 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Thomas scout report that we had. We would have had 357 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: to grow towards scout report, full scout report for prospects 358 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: like this at Football Gameplan dot com. Sola's twenty twenty 359 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: three Draft Guide and you can find me on CBS 360 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: Sports HQ on Day three. I'm mister day three. That's 361 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: where I find the Rodney Thomas. Yes, Sir, Isaiah Rodney World. 362 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: So Dallas Flowers out of Pittsburgh State, listen, So follow 363 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: me on CBS Sports HQ Day three. I'll be on 364 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: the coverage from the morning until the last pick and 365 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: even afterwards talking about what your guys have done. Which 366 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: you guys have done on Day three in the draft, 367 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: I love it. 368 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: You got to stay right there because you just open 369 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: up a whole other can of worms. Rodney Thomas, You're right. 370 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: I mean for guys like me that we were watching 371 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: NFL for six straight months, we're not glued into the 372 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: college football game like you are on a week to 373 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: week basis and certainly covering this year round when it 374 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: comes to the draft. Rodney Thomas, I mean, we didn't 375 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: even know what position to label him as coming out 376 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: of Yale there, Emery, how surprised were you that he 377 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: transitioned so well to safety and had the year that 378 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: he did have last year, becoming a mainstay for the 379 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: Colts in the starting lineup in the secondary. 380 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Not overly surprised, and you know, here's my thing, and 381 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked this question because it's about guys 382 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: getting opportunities. So if no one from a smaller school 383 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: gets drafted, then no one has to talk about the 384 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: small school prospect as being a serious contender. But if 385 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: you go back, I had a higher grade on Grover 386 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Stewart out of Albany State. I had a really good 387 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: grade on Champlain. I did one of his broadcasts at 388 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: Harvard when he played Georgetown, and I sawed the athleticism 389 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: of Rodney Thomas. I'm like, this dude has that athleticism, 390 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: that pro level athleticism. So I wasn't as shocked, but 391 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: I just I always try to hammer home to fans 392 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 2: and to people in the media as well, like the 393 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: world is bigger than the SEC, and there's a lot 394 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: of good book right Because of the eighth five scholarship limit, 395 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: talent is going to get down to the FCS and 396 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: D two level. So you're gonna get some guys that 397 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: probably should be a group of five talent playing at all. 398 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: But these states are playing at Yale. And you know 399 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: when you see these guys come in come out of 400 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: high school as you know, taller, you know, slower receivers. 401 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: They develop into and Andrew Opletree out of Youngstown State, 402 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: who now is an elite tight end prospect out of 403 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: Youngstown State. And you're like, Wow, where did that guy 404 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: come from? Well, he was a slow receiver come out 405 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: of high school and he was able to develop. And 406 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: I feel like that's what I'm excited about the XFL, 407 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: the USFL, those alternate leagues because these guys kidnapped an opportunity, 408 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: optunity to show their talents, show gets their talent. But 409 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: there's a ton of really good, you know, lower level 410 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: prospects out there. There's not a lot of spots on 411 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: an NFL roster. 412 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: Well, the Colts have a ton of Day three picks, Emory, 413 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: They've got three in round five and then round seven. 414 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: So they're going to be busy on Saturday of the draft. 415 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: And so keep your phone on if you don't mind, 416 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to circle back with you and talk about 417 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: some of those potential diamonds in the rough that the 418 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: Colts might be drafted on Day three of the draft, 419 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, and hype those guys up as 420 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: we try to get to know them better heading into 421 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: next season as rookies. Maybe do that a week or 422 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: two after the draft. If you're up for it, Emery. 423 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: Listen absolutely, and I'll tell you this. Find you a 424 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: draft analyst that is at every All Star game. I 425 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: was at All eight this year, and that also includes 426 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: my time going to the East West Bowl which is 427 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: Canadian also before the season, which is where I saw 428 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Carter O'Donnell out of Alberta dominated up there, so I 429 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: knew about him before he even got to the state. 430 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: So here's things I will keep my phone on. Promise 431 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: to hit me up. Yes, fan base with all the 432 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: good info. 433 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna be dropping some knowledge. 434 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: Man. 435 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: That's outstanding stuff, Emory. This is our first chance to 436 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: talk with you. Great stuff. Really appreciated, excited about it 437 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: and continued success with you Football Gameplan dot Com and 438 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: see Yes Sports HQ. That's Emory Hunt. Emory, appreciate it 439 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: very much and we'll do it again soon. 440 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Man. Appreciate you as always for 441 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: bringing me off