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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday edition. We

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Speaker 1: hope all of you had fantastic weekends. We are together

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Speaker 1: in New York City. A lot going on this week,

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Speaker 1: a lot going on over the course of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you got to spend time with your

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Speaker 1: friends and your family after what was frankly an absolutely

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Speaker 1: brutal last week. The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination continues.

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Speaker 2: We're going to give you the absolute latest on that.

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Speaker 1: Will also continue to take your calls and talkbacks. Senator

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Speaker 1: Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is going to join us in

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Speaker 1: the third hour, as Trump has announced that he is

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Speaker 1: calling the National Guard out for Memphis, Tennessee, which is,

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Speaker 1: according to a lot of data sets out there, the

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Speaker 1: most violent city in America on a per capita basis.

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Speaker 2: We will talk about that, but Buck, I would say this.

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Speaker 1: I was in Knoxville, Tennessee for the Georgia Tennessee football game,

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Speaker 1: which is a great game until Tennessee shank the kick

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Speaker 1: to lose. Governor Brian Camp immediately texted me right after.

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Speaker 1: He was like, boy, Greig, he's a huge Georgia Bulldog fan.

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Speaker 1: Great game. It's like, thanks Governor. I'm a big Tennessee fan,

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Speaker 1: but people came up to me, Buck. Everybody who came

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Speaker 1: up to me wanted to talk about Charlie Kirk. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean at the game. At the game where ninety

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time when I'm at

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Speaker 1: a football game, people want to almost exclusively talk about sports.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who came up to me wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and the impact that he had had on

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Speaker 1: their life. And what I think is the continued fallout

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Speaker 1: of I have to be honest with you, Buck. I

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Speaker 1: knew that there would be a segment because there always

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Speaker 1: is on social media of people that are awful and

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Speaker 1: react to tragedy by celebrating and marinating in the awfulness.

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Speaker 1: I'm still stunned about the extent of the celebratory reaction

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Speaker 1: to his assassination, and I didn't have high expectations for

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Speaker 1: how the left would respond. But when I see the

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Speaker 1: number of people who are teachers talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: not university professors, certainly a lot of university professors, which

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Speaker 1: I'm less surprised by because we've kind of seen this

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Speaker 3: District attorneys pediatric nurses, doctors. You know what this is

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Speaker 3: showing you everybody in every profession out there is possibly

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Speaker 3: an anti Charlie Kirk Lohn Like, you can't say, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: this person operates in the real world, so they they

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Speaker 3: would never I can trust my doctor, I could trust

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Speaker 3: my next door neighbor. No, you don't know until you

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Speaker 3: know whether somebody has failed this most basic test of morality.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what's so it's one thing Clay to

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Speaker 3: see the usual imbeciles in the media, and they're all

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Speaker 3: they're all losing ground, they're all losing relevance that that's

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Speaker 3: been going on. So it's not surprising. It's still grotesque,

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Speaker 3: but not surprising for them. What I think, though, is

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Speaker 3: such a shock to people is the the widespread nature

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Speaker 3: who are just like everyday people. That's what they're just

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Speaker 3: you know, it could be could be a homemaker, could

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Speaker 3: be somebody who runs a local hardware store, and they're

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Speaker 3: saying absolutely insane things in response to the assassination of

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Speaker 3: Charlie kirk who was, as we've talked about, not just

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Speaker 3: a political and social phenomenon, but a dad, a husband,

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Speaker 3: a son, somebody who was incredibly decent and kind to people.

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Speaker 3: So that that I think has been something of an awakening.

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Speaker 3: It does remind me Clay a little bit of after

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven there just from my own political awakening

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Speaker 3: in the CIA and not go into Wall Street like

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Speaker 3: all my peers did. And it was in part because

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Speaker 3: after nine to eleven, one we had been attacked, but two,

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Speaker 3: I had a recognition that there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: people around the world and here at home who after

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven their attitude was we got what was

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Speaker 3: coming to us. Yeah, we deserved it, or there even

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Speaker 3: should be if you're talking about globally, there should be

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Speaker 3: more of it. And so there was a call, a

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Speaker 3: literal call to arms, for so many of us to

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Speaker 3: go and fight. I think this is for conservatism here

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Speaker 3: at home. This is also turning into a moment of

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's a clarion call in some ways. Right, It's like

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Speaker 3: we're all now recognizing you mentioned this, Clay, I just had.

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Speaker 3: I went across the street were Clay and I are

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Speaker 3: a coffee, and someone came up to me and said,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sad about Charlie, and he said, you need

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Speaker 3: That's part of That's part of what I'm hearing from

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Speaker 3: everybody too. He was our friend, but he was also

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Speaker 3: our peerod we were on the same team. What we

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Speaker 3: And so I'm hearing that for from a lot of

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Speaker 3: to understand the reality of the opposition and where they

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Speaker 3: the lack of basic morality, and we have to confront this.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent of all of that is true. It's

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Speaker 1: also important, and we're going to do our absolute best

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Speaker 1: to keep you updated on all of the details. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you saw they have put I think they recognize

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Speaker 1: on the left that a lot of normal people, let's

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Speaker 1: leave aside the crazy celebrations. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: normal people who are apolitical. The idea that you would

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Speaker 1: celebrate a dad getting assassinated at a free speech event.

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Speaker 1: It does turn off huge segment of let's call just

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Speaker 1: politics on a daily basis. But just say, my god,

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Speaker 1: you're celebrating pure evil. Whatever you think about Charlie, he's

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Speaker 1: got a three year old, he's got a one year old,

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Speaker 1: he's got a widow. Now, the idea that anybody would

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Speaker 1: us as dads, is just awful. I mean, just leave

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Speaker 1: aside all of the rest of it. They recognize. I

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Speaker 1: I think we should dive into some of this. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this guy was actually a right winger, and they have

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Speaker 3: A big thing that we haven't gotten to, A big

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Speaker 3: reveal from over the weekend is that it has been

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Speaker 3: reported from multiple sources and confirmed from high up that

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Speaker 3: the shooter the assassin was in a romantic relationship with

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Speaker 3: a transitioning as in a trans individual. Now that trans

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Speaker 3: individual is cooperating with the FBI at last reporting. But

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Speaker 3: that I think goes to ideology, It goes to motive,

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Speaker 3: It goes to an understanding of this guy was in

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Speaker 3: You know he is he was not trans. But the

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Speaker 3: single clay this goes back for a long time. I

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Speaker 3: was told by one of the National Review guys. I

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Speaker 3: like a lot of those guys. I know some of

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Speaker 3: them have gone very little anti Trump, but some of

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Speaker 3: them are very good dudes. But I was told by

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Speaker 3: decade ago, that he was he'd been writing for Deck,

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Speaker 3: he himself and working in this politics commentary for decades,

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Speaker 3: cops and race issues and abortion and the trans issue

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Speaker 3: looking for left wing radicalism, if you're looking for what

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Speaker 3: I think some of the cop and race stuff that

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Speaker 3: People on the left who will go the most violent

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My point is that they shift from one delusion to another,

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Speaker 3: and this is the delusion of the moment that they

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Speaker 1: Are a lot of evidence points out there, and again

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Speaker 1: that suggests that multiple members of the trans community were

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Speaker 1: posting that Charlie was going to get killed at this

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Speaker 2: Now, how often does that happen?

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, is this occurring when

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 1: But these posts were up that are saying something is happening.

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Speaker 1: FBI is now investigating whether this may have been a

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Speaker 3: is we're looking at it. We're looking at everything, and

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Speaker 3: group that looked at them. They were very bored. It

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying, as somebody who's worked in counter terrorism,

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Speaker 3: obviously leading to an answer here, how many mass casualty

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Speaker 3: systemic as in trans terrorism is a threat that the

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Speaker 2: Now, I think we're past that point that far exactly

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Speaker 3: Going exactly every the FBI. This needs to be treated

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Speaker 3: like a task force. This needs to be treated like

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Speaker 3: the with the urgency that it should have. And you

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Speaker 3: Welcome, all right, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're

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Speaker 1: For President Trump, his ability to move past what happened

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton show a lot

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Speaker 1: of you weighing in on a variety of different angles

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Into this probably next hour, Buck, and we'll take some

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Speaker 2: But I think it's incredibly important.

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Speaker 1: For all of you to know that there is a

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Speaker 3: Furry is someone who dresses up as a woodland creature

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Speaker 1: well versed in this world either.

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Speaker 2: But my point on this is all of the bullets.

440
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Speaker 3: Because you're not You're not emotionally psychologically normal. If I'm

441
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Speaker 3: talking about now the assassin, If this is what you're

442
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Speaker 3: what you're going for, there's there's problems here.

443
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Speaker 1: I would say you are not psychologically normal if you

444
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Speaker 1: are a guy and you are dating a man that

445
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Speaker 1: is deciding to transition to a woman, I'm sorry.

446
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: Who dresses up like a like a bunny rabbit.

447
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Speaker 2: It's fun, super fricking weird. This guy's mental crazy stuff.

448
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Speaker 1: And there is a lot of evidence as well that

449
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: again he was a super far left winger mentally unstable, clearly,

450
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Speaker 1: and there is a lot of evidence out there that

451
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Speaker 1: many different people in the trans community in the state.

452
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Speaker 2: Of Utah, which does exist, by the way, we're.

453
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Speaker 1: Aware that something was going to happen here, and so

454
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Speaker 1: I think it's very important for you all to understand

455
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Speaker 1: there is a calculated attempt because of how embarrassing this

456
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Speaker 1: is and how awful this is for the lesson.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to take the hit ice logically they

458
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Speaker 3: want to. Don't want to, Yeah, they want to claim

459
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Speaker 3: that this is this is not on their side, so

460
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Speaker 3: to speak. And I just note, you know, they've tried

461
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Speaker 3: for a very long time to say that the guy

462
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Speaker 3: who shot Gabby Giffords was right wing. I mean that

463
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: guy was a pink elephants in the sky, paranoid schizophrenic

464
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Speaker 3: of no particular ideological cohesion whatsoever. I mean, you couldn't

465
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Speaker 3: figure out. But they try very hard to make that

466
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Speaker 3: because we have a long list now of very left

467
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Speaker 3: wing people who There was the guy who was yelling

468
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Speaker 3: ran Paul Senator Paul pull Us on this show. The

469
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Speaker 3: guy was screaming, this is for healthcare, yes. And he

470
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Speaker 3: was a Bernie, a Bernie bro shooting at those congressional

471
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Speaker 3: members conservatives? He said, are these conservative members of Congress?

472
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Speaker 3: When he was walking to the baseball field with that

473
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Speaker 3: rifle shot, Steve Scalise tried to murder everybody there but Clay.

474
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Speaker 3: They don't want this to they don't want this to

475
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Speaker 3: sort of seep into the American consciousness because the second

476
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Speaker 3: it does, there's a radicalizing effect here toward we have

477
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Speaker 3: to deal with this problem. Yes, and you just mentioned

478
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Speaker 3: people that I have known about this in advance. I

479
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Speaker 3: would just say, what what does it tell you if

480
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Speaker 3: there were other people either supportive of or within the

481
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Speaker 3: trans ideology.

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Speaker 2: And this is very clearly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think about people, people have committed ideological

484
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Speaker 3: acts of terrorism for the environment, people for for far

485
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Speaker 3: less than the so called genocide against the trans community

486
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Speaker 3: that the left believes is going on. So now we

487
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Speaker 3: look at okay, who knew that something was coming and

488
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Speaker 3: didn't say anything, Who knew that Charlie Kirk was in

489
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Speaker 3: danger and didn't go to the authorities. Now you can

490
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Speaker 3: claim one way, they're, oh, well, maybe that doesn't rise

491
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Speaker 3: to criminal culpability. Maybe they yeah, let's take a look

492
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Speaker 3: at that. And I know director director Patel and deputy

493
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Speaker 3: director Bongino are going to be as they should take

494
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Speaker 3: a look at that, because how could this be any

495
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Speaker 3: different than you know, someone saying, you know what, I'm

496
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Speaker 3: building a bomb and I'm gonna go put it in

497
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Speaker 3: a in a synagogue, something we dealt with when I

498
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Speaker 3: was the NYPD. How is it any different than that

499
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Speaker 3: lack of basic humanity to say that I'm going to

500
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Speaker 3: try to stop this from happening in innocence from being.

501
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Speaker 1: I think also what you're gonna see is some of

502
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Speaker 1: these places online and again we'll get into this. Some

503
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: of these places online are crazy echo chambers, and when

504
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Speaker 1: you go into these communities, they radicalize you because you

505
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Speaker 1: lose the capability of understanding the real world. I thought

506
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Speaker 1: the governor of Utah actually did a good job of this.

507
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Speaker 1: And I know so many of you have kids and

508
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Speaker 1: grandkids and you worry about this. The radicalizing impact of

509
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Speaker 1: an entirely online culture.

510
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Speaker 2: Getting out into the real world is actually healthy.

511
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Speaker 3: He has said some not so good things too, as

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm just just we're going to get hit

513
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Speaker 3: on that unless we point out that this it is

514
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Speaker 3: not a side both sides. The second someone does the

515
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Speaker 3: both sides thing, you know, shut it down, no way.

516
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Speaker 1: But I do think this is something that I spend

517
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Speaker 1: a lot of time with as a dad, and I

518
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Speaker 1: know a lot of you as parents and grandparents. How

519
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: do you get your kids off your phone and how

520
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: do you get your kids into the real world. This

521
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: is why somebody sent me an email and I thought

522
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Speaker 1: it was really well said. You know, getting kids involved

523
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Speaker 1: in sports and getting kids involved in extracurricular activities. I

524
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Speaker 1: think in an internet age is more important than it

525
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: ever has been in the past because it forces them

526
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Speaker 1: to have that face to face interaction in the real

527
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Speaker 1: world which takes you out of the crazy echo chambers

528
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Speaker 1: of the Internet, which radicalize you and make you think

529
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Speaker 1: that what you are working towards is normal.

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Speaker 3: So you couldn't do what this if you were an

531
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Speaker 3: even vaguely psychologically stable and had anything resembling a conscience,

532
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: you couldn't do what this person did to Charlie Kirk.

533
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Speaker 3: If you recognized him as a human being and a

534
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Speaker 3: dad and a father, yes you couldn't do that. Yes,

535
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Speaker 3: the way and this I've seen this. I go back

536
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: to the days when Clay we had a whole unit

537
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: going into look I was in a CIA. We used

538
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: to see what these gihatis were saying online, what they

539
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: thought they were saying, and encryptid comms what they thought

540
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: they were saying on cell phones. I mean, so you

541
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Speaker 3: really get in the headspace. Dehumanization is critical in the

542
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: mass delusion, and they dehumanize Charlie Kirk. They turned him

543
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Speaker 3: into an avatar of some you know, anti transgenocidal evil.

544
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Speaker 3: When reality first, I mean, put aside even the arguments

545
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Speaker 3: about what he was saying and everything else. He's a dad,

546
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Speaker 3: he's a husband, he's a son, he's a neighbor, he's

547
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Speaker 3: an American, he's a good person. You know, all of

548
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: that gets swept aside because in these ideological echo chambers,

549
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: it turns into he is something that must be dealt

550
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: with instead of he's a human being. And I've seen

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Speaker 3: this with terrorism over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really well said. I would also point

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Speaker 1: this out, and this is what is so and we're

554
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Speaker 1: going to play a couple of year talk bacts here

555
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Speaker 1: in a sec before we get here, is what I

556
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: would say too. It's one thing for a crazy person

557
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: to kill someone. Unfortunately, crazy people will be killing people

558
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: for all of our lives. And beyond, what I can't

559
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: get out of my head buck is if you go

560
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: watch that video at the moment that the shot was

561
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Speaker 1: fired at that Utah free speech event, there is a

562
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Speaker 1: guy who stands up and cheers. I don't know how

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: many of you have seen that. He's at this Charlie

564
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Speaker 1: Kirk event. He hears the gunshot ring out, he immediately

565
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: stands up and cheers as if his favorite team has

566
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Speaker 1: just scored a touchdown. That reaction is natural. His brain

567
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: is already so polluted that Charlie Kirk is so dehumanized

568
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: to him that he shows up at that event. And

569
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Speaker 1: when Charlie Kirk is shot, the instant that he falls back,

570
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: that man. Everybody else is duck looking down. Have you

571
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: seen that video that guy stands up? We should share

572
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: it on Clay and Buck because I think it's so

573
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: dark that guy stands up and cheers. Let me play

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Speaker 1: this for you. AA June says, thanks for last week.

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Speaker 1: Let's play her.

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Speaker 6: I'm a sixty five year old woman, a widow with

577
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Speaker 6: four grown children, ten grandchildren. Listen to you guys every

578
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: day while I'm working remotely from home. Love you guys.

579
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Speaker 6: I feel like you're my family, and I just want

580
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Speaker 6: to let you guys know that you were a major help.

581
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Speaker 6: I did not feel all alone listening to you guys

582
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Speaker 6: this week. It was an emotional week to begin with,

583
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Speaker 6: before the thing with Charlie even happened. The whole thing

584
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Speaker 6: with the poor young woman, well.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate that and we feel the same way,

586
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Speaker 3: and honestly, we were relying on all of you and

587
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: leaning on you and using your shoulder for support too

588
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: with your calls, but just knowing that you're out there listening,

589
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: and you're with us in this whole process. Clay and

590
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: I always say, we don't need therapy because we have

591
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: this show. So it was a two way street. It

592
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: was a two way street keeping each other steady and

593
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: reminding each other we have to get back into this fight.

594
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Speaker 3: So we're thankful to all of you.

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Speaker 1: She was pointing out there before she got cut off

596
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Speaker 1: that the start of the week was the awful story

597
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Speaker 1: out of Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So it was just an emotionally devastating you watched the

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Speaker 1: video of the woman in Charlotte and then the video

601
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Speaker 1: of Charlie getting shot. It was as tough of a

602
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Speaker 1: week as I can remember.

603
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Speaker 3: That was as that was, I mean, certainly since October

604
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605
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606
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Speaker 3: last feelings of those similar feelings of oh my gosh,

607
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Speaker 3: what's going on? And it was one of the toughest

608
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Speaker 3: news cycles we've ever had to deal with honestly here ever,

609
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Speaker 3: hold on it. We got we got a few things here.

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Speaker 3: We have George and Florida. George, welcome, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to make the comment that Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 4: was not assassinated and murdered about for what he said

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Speaker 4: or what he spoke. He was murdered and assassinated because

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Speaker 4: young people listened and they processed it, and many of

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Speaker 4: them millions voted accordingly. And that's what scared these these

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Speaker 4: these morons, these idiots, these left ringing the wacos. That's

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Speaker 4: that's what terrified him. His words didn't scare him so much.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, George, And yes, it's the positions

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Speaker 3: that Charlie was taking are are our common positions for

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Speaker 3: everybody in conservative media and for half the country. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing that Charlie was saying that was that was

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Speaker 3: fringe or that was meant to just be inflammatory. Look, ideologically,

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Speaker 3: what Charlie says is in total alignment with what we

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Speaker 3: say here on this show and have for years, so

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Speaker 3: as well as other shows, you know, a Ben Shapiro

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Speaker 3: show on Matt Walsh's show and go down the list.

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Speaker 3: There's no difference in the ideologies, or rather in the

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Speaker 3: points that are being made. But to your point, Charlie

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Speaker 3: was very effective at taking the argument into the lions

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Speaker 3: down of these college campuses, and he was also very

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Speaker 3: good in the online world. Understood that and was winning,

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Speaker 3: and the Left needs play to win in their minds

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Speaker 3: in that online world or else the whole edifice of

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Speaker 3: delusion crumbles.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: And again, what I believe Charlie did so well, and

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Speaker 1: there's super positivity. We need to play some of Erica Kirk,

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Speaker 1: his wife's remarkable statements on Friday. What Charlie did so

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Speaker 1: well was go to where people are and find them there.

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Speaker 1: And young people, I think uniquely want to see issues debated,

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Speaker 1: and they want to see arguments made from both sides

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Speaker 1: because they're young and they're learning what political values they have.

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Speaker 1: And I think the caller is correct that Charlie had

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Speaker 1: such an impact that they decided they had to kill him,

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Speaker 1: but I would argue it's also what he was saying

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Speaker 1: that was so impactful. He's got the right arguments, and

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Speaker 1: I think young men in particular are responsive to hearing

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Speaker 1: the right arguments and crave them because they're not getting

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Speaker 1: them from legacy media. And that's what Charlie recognized, what

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Speaker 1: we recognize on this show, and why I think we

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Speaker 1: have developed a pretty substantial young ish audience relative to

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Speaker 1: who traditionally listens to radio. We've layered in a lot

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Speaker 1: of younger people. It's why we want to be everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's why we are everywhere, whether it's TikTok, whether it's YouTube,

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Speaker 1: wherever people go to consume media, we want to be there.

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Speaker 3: Come back here in a second. Charlie has someone who

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Speaker 3: is guest hosting the Charlie Kirk Program today, the Vice

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Speaker 3: President the United States. We'll talk about that and more.

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Speaker 3: Stay around