1 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Chris Harry with you on a new episode 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: of Chargers Weekly. Coming up, Rookie linebacker Drew trank Will 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: joins me. It's been a life changing thirty days for 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: tranquill from getting drafted to moving cross country to becoming 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: a father last Friday. You're gonna be blown away by 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: this twenty three year olds maturity. But first, NFL media 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: is Mark Sessler checks in. We're gonna discuss his NFL 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: All Under twenty five team, which includes three Chargers defenders. 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: All right, my first guest. He's one quarter of the 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, a fantastic writer for NFL dot Com, 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna discuss his latest piece, the NFL's All 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Under twenty five team. Mark Sessler joins me here on 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. Mark, it's been a while, man, how are you? 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: You know? It's always good to talk with you. You 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: are one of the old co workers of mine from 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network, and I'll never forget working on a show 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: called Pick Him with You where our podcast crew Weekly 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: had to come up with essentially our locks of the 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: week games. We knew that we would be correct on 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: and my percentage was so unbelievably low. I can't believe 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: you're actually having me on a show to discuss football 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: on any level, because I remember swinging and missing on 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: so many of those picks. So very gracious of the things. 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: You're you're here to redeem yourself. We had some wild 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: places where we made these picks, right, you were guys, 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: you're playing cornhole, doing it at bars, whatever it takes. 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: It was well, you know it was. You had to 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: pump out like a twenty minute segment weekly in the 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: NFL season, you know, short by comparison to the NBA 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: and baseball, when you've got to knockout eighteen to twenty 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: of these lengthy pick segments. We were we were just 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: scrounging around for places to do it. So we hit 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: up dive bars, restaurants. I remember at one point being 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: on the top of a cliff for looking later that 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: one specifically that was amazing. Is that a Tamposy production? 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Is that a Erica Tamposy production? Oh? Yeah, no, she 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: um she had her hands in most of those, and 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think she probably saved most of the 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: segments from as I said, the picks we were making, 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: which we're going sideways too often, Well, Hey, we are 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: like in the middle of the off season, but this 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: was probably a fun exercise for you, this all under 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty five team. How did it all come to be? Mark, Well, 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: you know what they've done it before and in the past, 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: it's been looking at our site sort of a slide 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: show where it's it's it's just a little bit of 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: analysis with a photo and you cycle through twenty five 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: people or so. It was thrown my way and I 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: was happy to the time of year where sit back 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: and learn a little bit when you in and do research. 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: My Twitter mentions are you know, they're mostly evil because 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: anyone who wasn't picked that fan base is going absolutely 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: now and so you kind of just you kind of 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: dial down the any sort of plugged into technology aspect 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of your life, turn off Twitter, and in two or 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: three days it'll it'll become bright and sunny again. But 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: people generally are not happy with any of these things 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: unless it's their team, their player, and that's really in 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: a skull sample size because there's there are so many 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: at each of these skill positions too. It was really 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: tough to pick an offense between a couple of people, 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: and I get why people would be annoyed. But there's 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: only you know, we had to fill out an actual 64 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: starting roster, so you can't name seven or eight wide receivers. 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: You can name one or teach name two, and so 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: that leaves it leaves a lot of people highly annoyed. Well, 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: you know what, it's like a mock draft market. It's 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: like no one's ever happy. They read them, they consume them, 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: and at the end they complain about them. I thought 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: you did a great job. And the Chargers they led 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the league. I think along with the Colts. With three 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: guys on your list, they're all on defense. And I 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: want to start with Joey Bosa because when he's on 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the field, when he's across from Melvin Ingram, he's a force. 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: And he said he's as fast and as strong as 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: he's ever been entering year four. This probably wasn't too 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: difficult of a decision for you, pretty much one of 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: the easier decisions, because you know, the other options I 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: had there. Who I picked was Miles Garrett, who I viewed. Also, 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: as you know, you find out that Miles Garrett tells 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: you he was only allowed to use two moves under 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: the guidance like Williams well, you can only imagine more 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: from him. With Bosa, I feel like if you were 84 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: rounding out and shaping a team, you'd be a little 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: concerned about some of the durabilities to tappen at that set. 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: How would you This is a defensive Player of the 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Year player who is only now entering his prime. It 88 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: was a very easy pick, and I think it would 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: have been, you know, a fireable offense to leave him 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: off the list. Well, the thing is too Mark, what 91 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: they did the drafts. They get a guy like Jerry 92 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Tillery who can generate pass rush along the interior of 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and then you have Melvin Ingram, you 94 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: get you Chenna Noosu. So the more pass rushers that 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: these guys develop Isaac Rochelle who filled in, he's just 96 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: gonna make Joey that much more dangerous. He's probably still 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: going to see double teams. But as a whole, this 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Charger's pass rush looks to be at full strength here 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: in the off season. Yeah, and it's again you know 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Cults, also alongside Los Angeles, topped 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: the list, and I look at these two front offices 102 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: and I think Chris Ballard in Indianapolis has quickly become 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: one of the top talent evaluators. You know, Tom Telesco 104 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: isn't someone that goes out there and drops mega ton 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: quotes where he's sort of a Jerry Jones center of 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: attention guy, quite the opposite. But you look at his 107 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: drafts and how quickly he's turned the defense around. I 108 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: feel like the areas that were you know, we talked 109 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: about this before the call a little bit, that areas 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: that strong are now filled with depth. And the Hillery pick, 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: to me, you can say it was a pick of need. 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: I love the pick, and I think also they have 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: made a focus of looking for people that fit into 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: a locker room that's filled with a ton of youth. 115 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: And I think Hillery, of all the players that I 116 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: listened to after the picks, I thought, this guy's personality. 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: He's an immediately engaging personality and covering football and covering 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: individuals in general, you love that. And so I think 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: they found someone who fits right into the system. And 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: it's a huge arrow up for Bosa with the Tailory pick. 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Just to put a bow on this Tom Telesco conversation, 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: not counting this year because we know all seven draft 123 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: picks are on the roster the previous two years, all 124 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: fourteen picks are still on the roster. Thirteen have played 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: in a game. The only one that hasn't is Dylan 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Can't Trell and he was hurt last year and there 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: was a log jam, but wide receiver. But this is 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: a guy who could see board playing time in twenty nineteen. 129 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: So all these young guys, they've they've hit on all 130 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: of them. And the other one will go to is 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: Darwin James. This was a plug in play. It's probably 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: one of the easier decisions that you probably had to 133 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: make at safety. Yeah, it's another situation where along with 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: like Bosa and Miles Garrett, you had Jamal Adams of 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the Jets and Derwin James, who absolutely deserved his Defensive 136 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: Player of the Year on or like he I just 137 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: think that he was a fascinating, versatile player that they 138 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: can use all over the field. I'll that Baltimore Ravens 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: playoff win where they knocked Baltimore right out of the 140 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: out of the contention. I thought the way that they 141 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: lined him up at the line of scrimmage, the way 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: they use the entire defense to neutralize Lamar Jackson and 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: really what he gives Gus Bradley. I feel like they 144 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: could completely change the way that he operates with secondary. 145 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, Gus Bradley, of course came from the Seahawks 146 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: system and he knows about good safety play. And Derwin James. 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: It's like, you know you can, you can make these 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: logical draft picks and it's been you know, you hope 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: they turn out. But when you have two players like 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: BOTHA and Derwin James that a peaked the way they have, 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: you're going to completely change what you can do on defense. 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: And this was an absolute no brainer. You're right. He's 153 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: a fascinating player, one of the more fun guys to watch, 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: and you know, these safeties, when you hit on them, 155 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: you've got them for a decade. And he just seems 156 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: like one of those guys. Where are you talking about 157 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: him as a team leader at twenty three years old? 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: And when you bring in a guy like nazi're Adelie 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: in the second round, a free safety, you have jay 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Len Watkins come back, You're gonna be able to see 161 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Derwin more doing Derwin things at the line of scrimmage, 162 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: moving him around as opposed to last year where I 163 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: think he had to play back a little bit more, 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: so that changes and hopefully, you know, with Adderlie and 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: jay Len Watkins and ray Shawn Jenkins back there, uh, 166 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: derw was going to be able to move around to 167 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: field even more this year. Yeah. It's again, it's like 168 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: you find these defensive players. I mean, you build around 169 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Vosa by Addie Hillary, you you get Adderleie to hell 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Lou as you said, you know Derwin James to do 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: what he does, and when you find out that you 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: can have these centerpieces for the next five, six, seven years, 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: assuming they're all going to be extended, it's just it's 174 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it's it. You know, building up is a time consuming process, 175 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: it's on page. But when you start hitting on them 176 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: the way that Telesco has over and over with star players, 177 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you find yourself suddenly where they are. 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I think talent wise, top two or three teams in 179 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the AFC, if not the NFL. Unquestionably, Mark the third 180 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: player is one of my favorites, Desmond King, and he's 181 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: always had a nose for the football right A Thorpe 182 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Award winner at Iowa, He's made a lot of plays 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: on defense. I go back to that pick six in 184 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: Seattle on the fourth quarter. He actually had two interceptions 185 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: against Cleveland last year, but what he did on special 186 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: teams just flipping field position, that the seventy three yard 187 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: punt return against the Steelers in prime time. He had 188 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: a big return in the playoffs. This is a player 189 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: who the Chargers discovered as really a secret weapon in 190 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: the third phase of the game, and it just it 191 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: makes the offense and the defense that much more dangerous. 192 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: It's I mean, the fact that he can do so 193 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: many different things well, and it helped with the whole 194 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: concept of Travis Benjamin. Not I think we've they've upgrade 195 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: on Travis Benjamin in that aspect. They use him as 196 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: return guy. And you know, when I was doing my list, 197 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm only allowed to pick two cornerbacks, 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: which feels a little light in today's NFL. So I'm 199 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: able to plug him in as a slot guy too. 200 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: So it was a good pick for that list. And 201 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: he's just he's electrics. He's excited. I know in our office, 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting there on and watching to lize 203 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: his game on television, and you got one or two 204 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: people tracking this game. And Chris Wells Chris Wesley, my 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: co worker there. He he got into the Chargers big 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: time and he loved Desn and King and I couldn't 207 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: agree more. Just every time you see him, he's doing 208 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: something in field position matters so much. And he suddenly 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: found this guy that absolutely electrified his special team. So 210 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: I had no problem put him on this list. And 211 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: I think three Cohen was probably the guy last year 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: they got picked, but he wasn't as complete of a 213 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: kick return. I think he had three kick return year round. 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: So you know, to me, King was just another another 215 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: guy that they find. And it's like you look up 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and down this Chargers roster and there really isn't an 217 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: area that's a raging weak spot. And you know, most 218 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: most of these teams in the league have one or 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: two Achilles heel scenarios that could completely neutralize him. I 220 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: think with with with the Chargers, it comes down to 221 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: staying healthy because they've had a couple of key guys. 222 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: You know when you and that's the patrician in the NFL, 223 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: and that's all for debates. That's about the lock to 224 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: some degree, and if boats that can stay healthy, if 225 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: Gordon can stay healthy on offense like this team they're 226 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: gonna get. They should go right back to the place 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: they were last year, and then it comes down to 228 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: knocking out a team like the Patriots knocking out you know, 229 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: if you have to go on the road taking care 230 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: of your own business. Yeah, Mark, I was talking to 231 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: somebody at our facility this week about the offensive side 232 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: of the ball and which guys would be eligible. And 233 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: obviously Melvin Gordon twenty six, Keenan Allen's older. I think 234 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers just missed the cut, right, fill up something? Yeah, 235 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I had I done this exercise in 236 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: like two thousand and three or two thousand and four 237 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: or so, he would have been a lock for this. 238 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: But that's fifteen years ago at this point. The two 239 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: guys that did come to I know, Mike Williams was 240 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: probably a difficult decision for you because you know, he 241 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: had eleven total touchdowns last year. He think he's gonna 242 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: be twenty four when the season starts. Three touchdowns against 243 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs late in the year. I understand Juju Smith, 244 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: Schuster and DJ More, no doubt, but but Mike was 245 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: probably in the consideration. Definitely in the consideration. I mean, 246 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting killed for Calvin Ridley more so than than 247 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Mike Williams at this point in terms of what you 248 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: know hearing from irate individuals. But I get it. You 249 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: can only take two guys, and I think with each 250 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: with each of these positions the honorable mentions. In my 251 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: mind looking at the list, it's just like it was. 252 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: It was a tough exercise. And with Mike Williams, it's 253 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: like if his career had started just a little bit differently, 254 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: maybe he would be in that conversation, would have been 255 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: one of those two guys. But he's right there. And 256 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: it's also like that these lists in the middle of May, 257 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: where that everything is sort of stationary and nothing's changing 258 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. It's really just sort 259 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: of what they've done up to now, and so much 260 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: vastly can change because even you know, picking Patrick Mahomes, 261 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: obviously it's going to be Patrick Mahomes after what he 262 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: did last season, But who's to say a year from 263 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: now that it couldn't be Sam Darnold or it couldn't 264 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: be Baker Mayfield. Certainly as something as you know, variable 265 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver position, could you look vastly different 266 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: a year or two from now, Mark, let's see it 267 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: back to the fact that people are crushing you about 268 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: a list over Memorial Day weekend, an NFL twenty five 269 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: and underlist on Memorial Day weekend. This is peak NFL 270 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: right now. It is, and I think it shows like 271 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: in a great way. I mean, how passionate people are 272 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: about the sport, because you know, I think fifteen twenty 273 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: years ago, if you're covering the NFL, this is the 274 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: time of the year where they throw you on basketball 275 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: or women's softball or who knows what. So the fact 276 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: that you're that this content even gets still really read 277 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: and so passionately debated, it's it shows you that the 278 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: NFL is absolutely on fire right now. You could make 279 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: a case for so much any of these young players 280 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: that you know you've got to just sit back and 281 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: accept some of the people's arguments. It's like, I'm not 282 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: why of the rulers don't you know, fire back and 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: start getting it into it with people, because that goes 284 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: literally nowhere but total darkness. So I just sort of 285 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: just say, have a nice day, Yeah, you want to 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: enjoy your summer. Now that the AFC west the dust 287 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: to settle a little bit, and the draft has passed. 288 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: We see what the Chiefs are right now entering mini camp, 289 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: we see what the Raiders are, the Broncos are. How 290 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: would you assess the division very early based on the 291 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: moves that we're made in free agency and the draft. Well, 292 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a much more competitive division because you know, 293 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos has some overts the past couple of years. 294 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it started right there on the offensive line 295 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: in a shaky quarterback situation. I'm not certain Joe Flap 296 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: is gonna last the season there in terms of being 297 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the starter. I think they're going to want to see 298 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: what they have and Drew Locke and you know, before 299 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: next year's last which might reopen the discussion of adding 300 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: another signal caller in Denver. Oakland is certainly a spicier 301 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: team than a year ago. And to me, they are 302 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: a bizarre X factor types are they going to be? 303 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Are they going to come out and knock out some 304 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: of the better clubs? I don't know, But if they 305 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: suddenly you have a brown You've got a lot of 306 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: talent and they've added so many pieces that if they 307 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: if they sort of gel, you could they could be 308 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: a bit interest down the stretch. So I don't think 309 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: you can just look at Denver and Oakland say we're 310 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: going to pile up up three to four wins of 311 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: those two. It's going to be the typical AFCUS battle. 312 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: But I look at at the Chargers and say, there's 313 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: no reason on paper to say they could not right 314 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: now be the team to beat in the division. Because 315 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: I think I re killed situation in Kansas City because 316 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: when you look at a team that peaks offensively the 317 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: way they did last year, but you have to just 318 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: looking at teams to do that, expect Kansas City to 319 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: come back to the meet a little bit. In terms 320 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: of Mahomes. Is he going to throw another fifty touchdowns? 321 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I think things are gonna You can't. You just can't 322 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: count on offense year to year or to achieve. And 323 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs have done a lot to address 324 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: some of their defensive issues, but that defense is not 325 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: right now, something on paper is their strength. It's quite 326 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: it's quite more of a wait and see situation. And 327 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: so to me, it's it's the Chargers. And I'm not 328 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: just saying that because you know a Chargers. They show 329 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: they to me were the best team down the stretch 330 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: in that division last year, and I think it's it's 331 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: situation where you know it's gonna be a health situation. 332 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: You cannot lose your quarterbacks, you cannot lose key pieces 333 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: on defense. You cannot have Joey Bosa go out and play, 334 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, half the season. You've got to get full 335 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: sixteen game from your dudes. And if if they can 336 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: do that, the Chargers not. It's not just the Web. 337 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't see really the reason they couldn't be in 338 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship and potentially playing that at home, just 339 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: to see how it shakes out. I want to get 340 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you out here on this because you are a big 341 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: time Browns fan, and the hype train is so real 342 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: right now. The Chargers don't play the Browns in the 343 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: regular season this year, but what's been your reaction to 344 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: everything that's happened, from Odell Beckham to Freddie Kitchens to 345 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: just being on prime time and the expectations that come 346 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: with it. It's very surreal, and I don't know how 347 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: all the Browns fans feel, but I think if you're 348 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: my age from forty five, that it's been so long 349 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: that they since I've been you know, a respectably viable 350 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: franchise in the AFC. One that wasn't. It wasn't, and 351 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: they're not. They weren't sort of just Miami. Yeah, they're 352 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: not a factor, but they're not enraging embarrassment. I mean 353 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: they went to the peak peak world of embarrassment. You 354 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: cannot do more than what a team to hit over 355 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the previous seasons before last year to really really become 356 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: something in sports that only happens once thirty years, where 357 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: you bottom out the way that they did. So now suddenly, 358 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: because it's been a rather quick turnaround to look at 359 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: the roster and to find out that they're you know, 360 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: on national television over and over and the central boxing 361 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: point of the off season, it's not really clicked into 362 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: me as reality as if this is the fan in me. 363 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would need to go see 364 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: them go out and be competitive and have the pieces 365 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: played together because people might forget that they went ten 366 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: and six and Joe Thomas's first season back two thousand 367 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and seven, the league turned around and said, you know what, 368 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: they have Brady Quinn on the bench. He might become 369 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: the starter if Derek Anderson takes a seat at some 370 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: point there's a lot to like. They gave the Browns 371 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: a five national games and primetime games, and I thought, 372 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: this is great, We're rolling because back then I was 373 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: a little bit less, you know, bitten reality that things 374 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: typically don't work out. They went out on national TV, 375 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: and over the course of the end of that season, 376 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: they came close to setting a record for consecutive quarters 377 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: without a touchdown. I think they went twenty four plus 378 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: quarters or so without a touchdown. It was a It 379 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: was as big of a nightmare as one could describe 380 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: in the mind. And so my thing is, just don't 381 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: do that again. Pick up the pieces from where you 382 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: were the Chargers last year. I thought Los Angeles put 383 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: them right back in their place. That was a dominant 384 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: effort by the Chargers. They have to go and show 385 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: that they can hang with these teams that they're now 386 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: suddenly being hoisted. But they're just you know, you can't 387 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: just take a team and say they're there. I love 388 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: the coach, I love the idea of him. Like me 389 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: a couple of times, I just think he's the real art. 390 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: He's the genuine article. There's a lot of talent you've 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: got that that's fine, But I still need to see 392 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: them get past Hitsburg Baltimore in their own division because 393 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: they have never done that in the past twenty years. 394 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: So I'm rambling because it's just a lot of internal 395 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: stuff to figure out. But at the same time, reality 396 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: can be pretty rough in the NFL, So we'll see 397 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: where we are in a couple months. It's just one 398 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: example of all the expectations that NFL fans have twenty nineteen. 399 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Just there's so many storylines, and the Browns are certainly 400 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the heap there. Mark Sessler, I 401 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you outside of a football setting, 402 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: but hopefully we get you to a Chargers game early 403 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: this year and you can enjoy seeing the Bolts live 404 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in person. Not a tough sell. I did a story 405 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: on Stubhuff years ago and it went to one of 406 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: their games, and I thought it was the most unique 407 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: and enjoyable experience. Just I kind of walked her him 408 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: into sixty seven different in spots. So this is a 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: totally different type of NFL scenario. And so I would 410 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: love to go eating Uber Rider from my house, so 411 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, won't be hard to do. I'll be there, 412 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: all right. Well, we'll make it happen, Man, Mark Sessler, 413 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: I can't thank you for your time, buddy. I'll see 414 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: you soon. Thanks. All right, Bolts fans. 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See official rules for 423 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: details at chargers dot com Slash jack Boys Dash Rules. 424 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Talking to one of the final rookies here on the podcast, 425 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: linebacker Drew Tranquil joins me and Drew first and foremost, 426 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: congratulations on a new baby, boy, man, how are you? 427 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: Thank you? We're doing really well man. Then baby's here healthy, 428 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: born four am, four eleven last Friday morning, so going 429 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: on six days old here, and he's doing well. He's 430 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: got his first pediatrician appointment today. But we're just we're 431 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: so glad to welcome him into the world. Can you 432 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: describe what the last four or five weeks have been like, 433 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, you go from drafted, to move to a 434 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: new city to become a new dad, all in the 435 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: span like four weeks. It's crazy because there's like a 436 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: two or three month window kind of you have the 437 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: combine and then you're waiting again. But it's kind of 438 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: like a dull time of just you train and do 439 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: the same thing every day. And my wife and I 440 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: would laugh at home because we were like, we knew 441 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: what was coming, and so bang we get drafted. Oh no, 442 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: we're moving across the country. She's thirty eight weeks pregnant. 443 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: We don't have a place, so we just pack up 444 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: our entire apartment, hire a couple of our buddies back 445 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: home to drive a year haul across the country. And 446 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: you knew it was coming, right, It was just a 447 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: matter of time. It's like, once we find out where 448 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna be, that's when all the chaos happens. We knew, 449 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: we knew it was coming. So the two men in 450 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: the truck got the U haul out here. We flew 451 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: out here, found a place, got moved in a rookie minicamp, 452 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: and then we start OTAs and then I get the 453 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: call on Thursday, We're going to the hospital and how 454 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the baby's here. I'm a dad and it's just a 455 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: lot happening at once, but it's it's my Jordan year, 456 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: So I guess he got to do a big right 457 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: twenty three the Jordan, you gotta do it big and 458 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: right now you're right in the middle of OTAs. What's 459 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: that has been like from just getting into the building, 460 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: rookie mini camp and then gradually getting into the mix 461 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: with the Vets, it's got to feel even more comfortable 462 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: now than it did at the beginning. Well, I'll say 463 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: it's the most fun job I've ever I've ever had 464 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: in my life. I just get to come to work 465 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: and play ball, learn about football, and go outside and 466 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: play football like I never imagined, like a work day, 467 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Like I get to walk between the lines and put 468 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: the pads on and run around and play ball. And 469 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: so I'm just really grateful to be out here. And 470 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: we've got so many great linebackers here, you know, DP 471 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: and TD and just so many guys to learn from. 472 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: And uh, it's been great. I've just been trying to 473 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: be a sponge and we got coach Smith who's been 474 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: in the business for forty years and just knows this stuff, man, 475 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to eat it up. Nobody 476 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: better right to coach the linebackers. And then to have 477 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: a guy like Thomas Davis and Denzel Perryman and even 478 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: guys like you Channa Nuosu who were in your spot 479 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: a year ago, you could probably pull things from him. 480 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: And then, you know, we talked about Thomas Davis. This 481 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: is the only defensive player from the OH five draft 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: that's still in the league. So talk about taking care 483 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: of your body at probably one of the most punishing 484 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: positions on the field. That's the guy to talk to 485 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: him when does it at a high level, and you 486 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: can see it in the way he goes about his work. 487 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: He's a pro and everything he does. You know, he's 488 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: taking care of his body here at six am in 489 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: the morning, all the way leading up to practice, and 490 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: that sets the standard, right, sets a standard, man. And 491 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: the way, you know, you kind of laugh a little bit. 492 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: You think this guy's gonna come out here just be 493 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: an old guy like moving around. Oh man can move, man, 494 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: he can move. He's still got it. And so he's 495 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: been a pleasure to have in the locker room for sure. 496 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: I talked to Amka on the podcast a few weeks 497 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: ago and he recalled, you guys weren't drills And I 498 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: think when you drop a ball and the drills it's 499 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: ten pushups and I think Amika forgot to do it 500 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: and it. Thomas went up to him and say, hey, man, 501 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: did you get your ten? He's like, oh, forgot, gotta 502 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: get my ten. And so it's just little things like 503 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: that that you probably pick up on. It's like, hey, 504 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: this is how we do things around here, and this 505 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: is how it's gonna be. I mean, it's the accountability. 506 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: You want a leader, and you know, certainly you want 507 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: a guy, an alpha guy like that, especially in a 508 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: linebacker group, a guy who calling the defense to be on. 509 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Guys like that, and we got that in TV. All right, 510 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you something that your defensive coordinator from 511 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Clerk Lee said about you on the podcast 512 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: last month. And he went on and on. I say, 513 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: tell me about Drew trank Will. He's like, hey, you 514 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: got an hour? How much time you got? He said, 515 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: Drew trank Will is just wired differently. He's just different 516 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: than any player I've ever coached. He's a machine when 517 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: it comes to his work ethic, a machine when it 518 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: comes to how he approaches his craft, both in terms 519 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: of how he treats his body and his work output. 520 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: I fully expect Drew to thrive. He's going to contribute. 521 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: He's going to add to the fabric of the team. 522 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: He's got the skill set to play, He's got the 523 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: skill set to be an NFL starter, and he won't stop. 524 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: He won't relent until he's accomplished that. Yeah, I mean, obviously, 525 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, coach, he has been one of the my 526 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: favorite coaches I've had in my life. He's taught me 527 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: so much and so to hear hear those words that 528 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: means a lot one too. You just you talk about 529 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: the work ethic, I think you know now being a father, 530 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's something I hope to pass to my son, 531 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: because honestly, I got my work ethic from my dad. 532 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a guy who married my mom 533 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: his junior year of college, had me their senior year 534 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: as well as I'm the oldest of five, but they 535 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: had three of us while he was in college. Wow, 536 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: it took him eight years to finish his degree because 537 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: he didn't come from a family with a lot of 538 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: money and had to pay his way through school and 539 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: work three jobs. Was ahead of the cafeteria. And you 540 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: can imagine doing engineering with three jobs and raising a family, 541 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: and so to have a dad who did it with 542 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: so much integrity and so much character, and you know, 543 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: he just does business right and it goes about his 544 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: work right and just let our family so well. I mean, 545 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I just it's all I can do to just give 546 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: my best every day, you know, and try to pass 547 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: that torch. So I guess that's a little bit of 548 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: the work ethic and why I guess what drives me. 549 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: And it's more than me, you know. Yeah, well you 550 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: said it's your Jordan year. And in twenty three, I 551 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of people that may be listening to 552 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: this podcast that they're a little bit older, will look 553 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: back to twenty three and be like, listen, I wasn't 554 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: as buttoned up as mature as your tranquil is man. 555 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: That responsibility, it seems like it's instilled from your family, 556 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: but also probably the program at Notre Dame too, how 557 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: they approach business and how they want you to leave 558 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: the university as good a person as you are a player. Yeah, 559 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, and I'm biased. You know, 560 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the best university in the country. But 561 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: I think even if you're not a Notre Dame fan, 562 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: you can't you can't talk bad about Notre Dame. I 563 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: mean just the way they prepare not only their student athletes, 564 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: but their students. And you know, I was able to 565 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: travel abroad in Israel to do mechanical engineering, to have 566 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: all of these internship opportunities while playing ball and getting 567 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: a degree of that caliber. And so there's just so 568 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: many people that alumni just pouring into that institution and 569 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, programs being developed and people that that care, 570 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: and it certainly shows and how their students do after 571 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: post Notre Name. We'll tell you, Drew, the charges must 572 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: like what they see in South Bend because Isaac Rachel 573 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: is here, Jerry Tillery's here, your guy Tyler's here. The 574 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: punner that has to make the transition that much easier 575 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: for you to know you have some familiar faces in 576 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the locker room. Well, Isaac must have some clout with 577 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: coach Flinner. We got we got three of us coming 578 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: out here this year. But you know, funny story. Dry. 579 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I talked to Isaac in February, and you know, we 580 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: always look at these box drafts during that period between 581 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the combine and the draft, and Jerry kept getting mocked 582 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. But it's all entertainment, it's not there's 583 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: really no substance behind it. You know, it's just people guessing. 584 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: And Isaac was like, yeah, I talked to Jerry yesterday 585 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: about the process that I'm buying and stuff, and it's 586 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: just it's just funny how you fast forward. Not only 587 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: is Jerry here, but you're here, you play with Isaac, 588 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: and you got another guy in Tyler. Yeah, It's it's 589 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: crazy because Jerry gets drafted there, I'm I'm just thinking 590 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: great for him. I'm not like I didn't really have 591 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: too much engagement with the Chargers, to be quite honest. 592 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, I met with their linebacker coach and talked 593 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: with him, but I was like, I didn't think I 594 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: was going to tell I hear that a lot during 595 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: the draft process, though. It's like I think Brandon Meban 596 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: said that when he was drafted he didn't have any 597 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: contact with the Seahawks or very little contact. You hear 598 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: you hear about that, and it's it's probably just the 599 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: team saying, listen, if we don't talk to the guy, 600 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: maybe we'll sneak out and snag him. And that's what 601 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers did. It's a game of poker, man, that 602 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: really is. I don't want to show their hands. With 603 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: everything you had going on, you knowing you're gonna move 604 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: to a new city, you're gonna be a new dad. 605 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: To have that uncertainty of what NFL city you were 606 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: going to go to and not really having a clue, 607 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: how did that affect things at home? Well? I mean 608 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: it's funny because you got a wife who's thirty six 609 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: or thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight weeks pregnant. 610 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: She's like, baby, where are we gonna be? Yeah? Two, 611 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: what's the plan? What's the plan? I'm like, I'm like, man, 612 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just trusting the Lord and it's 613 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna work out fine. And I knew I just had 614 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to weather the storm and then when that moment came, 615 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: I had to get to work and get on it. 616 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: So she's awesome. She handled it. Well. It's Eli, right, Yeah, 617 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Eli and Jackie? How are they doing? They're doing well. Man, 618 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: they got their pediatrician follow up today, his six day 619 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: follow up, and so he's been doing really well. Man. 620 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: He eats a lot, he sleeps a lot, he poops 621 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot, he does it all. So but he's he's awesome, man. 622 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: He really he looks like her. It looks exactly like her. 623 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: So it's sweet. That's so cool, man, It's it's so 624 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: great that you guys are going through this amazing experience. 625 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: And on the field offensively, you look at Philip Rivers 626 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: across the way. On the defense, you know, you probably 627 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: grew up by Philip Rivers and some of the weapons 628 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: that this offense has. What's it been like you OTA's 629 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: just going against this first team? Oh? In practice? Yeah, 630 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: I laughed the other day. I was like, man, I'm 631 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: walking out here, this is my first OTA and I'm 632 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: looking across the field and I'm like, it's Philip und seventeen. 633 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's gracious, but it's so awesome. I Mean, 634 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: the dude just gets up to the line of scrammers 635 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: and calls out the defense and just says what everybody's doing. 636 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: And we're like, come on, man, like I don't do that. 637 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. But just how much football knowledge and experience 638 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: this guys have. It's super cool, super cool this Chargers team. 639 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, they they've gone nine to seven and coach 640 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Lyn's first year win a playoff game last year. Do 641 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: you since the veterans kind of holding everybody accountable here 642 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: knowing that, hey, we got business to take care of 643 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and you guys are coming along for 644 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: the ride and we expect you to contribute. Well, I mean, 645 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't have too much to compare to, but I 646 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: do know this. I know we have ninety nine percent 647 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: of our guys here in voluntary OTAs, and it's a 648 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: big deal from what I can understand. You don't really 649 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: see that across the league. And so that was that 650 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: was cool for me to hear and just the buy 651 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: in I get here and sense here, and how the 652 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: veterans have kind of welcomed into the rookies and like 653 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: it's a business, like we're all competing against each other 654 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: for a job, but it certainly doesn't feel like that 655 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: we have a mantra poll and or playing poll for 656 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: one another. And it's like I certainly sense that in 657 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the way guys, you know, even guys playing the same position, 658 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: fighting for jobs or encouraging each other. So it's super cool. 659 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: That's great. If I don't think for you, what do 660 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: you watch rgest fans to doll about Drew frankl Man, 661 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: it's a very broad question. Yeah, really broad. I mean, 662 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I'm just passionate, you know, to 663 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: be here in La with this community, to be out 664 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: here with my family, you know, my faith in my family. 665 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, they mean everything to me, and we're so 666 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: honored to be out here. You know. I love the 667 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: game of football. I played since I was five or six. 668 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about it, and I hope to bring that 669 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: energy not only to the football field here but also 670 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: to the community. And I just can't wait to get 671 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: to know the city and get to know the people. Yeah, 672 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: you can see it, man, It's infectious your personality and 673 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: the way you approach the game and the way you 674 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: approach life. So we're privileged to have you and appreciate you. 675 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Stopping Bible. Thanks so much, Go Chargers. All right, guys, 676 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. My thanks to Drew Tranquil and 677 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler for joining me, and of course thanks to 678 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: you all for listening. If you like what you hear 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: this offseason. We'd love it if you left us a 680 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Please help spread the word. 681 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, and until next time, I'm Chris 682 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: Harry