1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is the 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: one and only Wes hod Kowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field. This will be 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: our season wrap up episode. We're gonna go on a 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: bit of a hiatus from Packers Unscripted after this. West 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: has some vacation to take. I have some vacation to take. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Who knows when we'll be back. We will be back, 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: but when when I'm not sure. I was gonna say, 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: we'll see if Leroy gets in the Hall of Fame 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, and if he doesn't, then probably about 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: forty eight minutes after the announcements made, we'll be doing 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: an episode West. West is gonna drag me in here 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: because we're gonna have to talk about it. Um. But yes, 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: offseason episodes between now and the draft might just be 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: very much news driven, might be based on when West 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: and I are both both happened to be in the 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: office at the same time. That aside, though, I do 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: want to art this episode with a hearty congratulations and 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: a big time shout out to now former Packers Offensive 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. He has landed the head coaching job 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos. This is a tremendous career achievement 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: for somebody that, um, everyone in this building was rooting 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: for him. If this is what he wanted, you wanted, 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: you wanted him to get it and get this opportunity. Um. 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Just a great guy. I wish he could have been 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: around Green Bay longer than than three years. He's been 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: really fun to talk to and get to know. But 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: congratulations to coach Hackett. Congratulations to Nathaniel you know, unfortunately 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: been behind the zoom wall here for two years for 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: most of it. But a guy that when you'd see 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: him in the press box, he always have a good 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: smile for you, always have a nice hello, Very personable. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I made the comment Mike at the end of the 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: season when I was thinking, originally maybe he'd be a 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: candidate for Jacksonville. I had tweeted out something along the 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: lines of, if you want to change your culture, if 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, infuse some positive in your 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: locker room, Nathaniel Hackett's your guy. Well, and it sounded 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: like he was potentially on his way for a second 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: interview in Jacksonville, and the Denver Broncos didn't let him 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: leave town. They they they dropped a contract in front 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: of him and said, uh, and said you're our guy, 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: so let's so let's go. There are obviously some implications here, uh, 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, the this is going to fuel you know, 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: rumors and speculation regarding Aaron Rodgers and all that. I'm 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: not going to get into what we will see what 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: happens with regard to the Packers staff. Matt Lafleur had 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: mentioned on Monday, Um, you know, he's got a plan 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: in place. Obviously, his plan is to promote from within 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: for for offensive coordinator. Presumably his top candidates there are 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Luke Getsy and Adam Stenovitch, Getsy being quarterback coach and 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: passing game coordinator, Stenovitch being offensive line coach and run 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: game coordinator. But then another potential wrinkle here is you 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: don't know if coach Hackett might potentially want to take 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys with him to Denver to be 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. So we'll have to see what happens here. 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: But but Matt Lafleur's plan is to promote from within 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: at offensive coordinator to replace Nathaniel. Yeah. And and here's 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: the thing. I want to make this abundantly clear, because 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I made this case an inbox too, in regards of 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell and Restold Douglas, two guys that the Packers 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: would love to have back for two thousand twenty two, 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: but have incredibly raised their their stock here over the 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: last few just a bit, whether or not the Packers 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: can bring back Hamble or Douglas, whether or not, well, 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: obviously pack I'll be moving on to a new opportunity 68 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: that has positive implications for the Packers franchise, for this team. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: It's certainly for Matt Lafleur. I think one thing, especially 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: as organizations, you fall into this pit where you want 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: to continue to be the status quo because you fear 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: what it means to lose a player, what it means 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to lose a coach, when in reality, by a Nathaniel 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: ha get moving on. It creates opportunities for guys on 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: this roster who are also deserving of those opportunities. What 76 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: I love the most about Hackett's story though, Mike, it's 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: not like when Matt Lafleur hired him in two thousand nineteen. 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Hackett was this huge, you know stud you know, had 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: everyone's just raving about him as offensive coordinator. This is 80 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: a great higher. There are a lot of questions about 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: him because of how things ended in Jacksonville. Yeah, he'd 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: been run out of town basically, And as I kind 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: of said a few weeks ago, I think as time 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: has passed, his tenure as the offensive coordinator as the 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars has really really looked better and better what 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: he was able to do, what they were able to accomplish. 87 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: And while he was sort of unceremoniously you know, let 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: go during a time in which you know that happens 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: to coaches where they have to make these decisions. For 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: him to get this opportunity and to become such a 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: beloved coach, you know, get the Packers with the gold zone, 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, setting franchise record productivity last year, being able 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: to kind of rebound here the second half of this season. 94 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: He had a lot to do with what Green Bay 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: was able to build offensively. So, yes, you hate to 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: see coaches go, you hate to see talented players go, 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: but people around the league are going to notice that Mike. 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: When Matt Laflour inevitably starts hiring guys again. After all 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: the dust settles, coaches are gonna want to come to 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay. When free agents that maybe are looking for 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity because they felt like they got the raw 102 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: into the stick, like Campbell, like Douglas, like Dennis Kelly, 103 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna notice what those players did in Green Bay. 104 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: The overall byproduct of that is really important because you're 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: not going to be able to pay everybody ten million 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: dollars a year. But if people understand that there's an 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to grow and enhance and improve in this environment, 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to be able to be a part 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, the other thing that I 110 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: want to focus this show on before at the end, 111 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: we will talk about the upcoming conference championship games and 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: get some thoughts there. I came up with. I came 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: up with a few categories, uh sort of to uh 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: to recap this season for the Packers. Now, in the 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: spirit of unscripted, I haven't told Wes what the categories are. 116 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I've had the advantage to do a little bit of 117 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: thinking to make my choices here. But he gets the 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: advantage of going first. So if he picks what I 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: want I have to come up with something else, but um, 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: we'll start with this West. The best moment of season 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: for the Packers is he gonna is Marv gonna play 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: like the Jeopardy music. I don't know. That's that's up 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: to him in the in the when he when he 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: gets gets uh doing the final production. Ten seconds for 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: me to write on my monitor, and then we show 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: everybody what I picked the best moment of the two 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: thousand one season. There's a few of them, but I'm 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna try to give you one to me. I think 129 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it is that win over the Minnesota Vikings, 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: because that was what got them to buy. That's what 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: got them they clinched the division and look and Rogers 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: given that speech to the guys about enjoying this moment. 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: That's something I've kind of talked to people about a 134 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: lot this season. The other answer I kind of wanted 135 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: to use there was Rogers just reporting for training camp. 136 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: I felt like that was a big moment, but it 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: was the appreciation of what you're accomplishing in the moment 138 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: of what you're accomplishing it. I understand this is a 139 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: disappointing week. You heard me talk on Tuesday. It's a disappointing, 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, to fall short of the ultimate goal. But 141 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: this ride is so long, there's so many days in 142 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a year. There's so much legacy involved in these things 143 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: that if you boil it down to just winning or 144 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: losing a Super Bowl, it's gonna be difficult to put 145 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: all your chips in that basket, even if you win 146 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: the darn thing. I appreciate that Rogers said that to 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: the team that day. I appreciated what it meant for 148 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: him to come back, for him to have the success 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: he did. He was a p f W a U 150 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: m v P of the Year m v P. You know, 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: likely will be the AP one as well. We'll find 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: out shortly. But what Rogers brought to this team and 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: being able to have that moment with the roster, the 154 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: huddle before they knelt down, I felt like that was 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: a pretty big catalyst to what they did. Yeah. I 156 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: like that. That's that's a good show. I was looking 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: for capstone, not catalyst. Um My pick is is the 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: Russel Douglas interception in Arison. Um that was for me. 159 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: That was a and and you know, wheat for the 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: second straight year because of COVID protocols, restrictions on the 161 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: team charter and whatnot. You and I did not travel 162 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: to the road games. That Russel Douglas interception in the 163 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: end zone to win the game against Arizona when the 164 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals were undefeated. It was a Thursday night game on 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the road, traveling multiple time zones. The Packers were devastated 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: by injury. They were they were down several players on 167 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. That was a jump out 168 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: of your chair moment um, you know, as as far 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: as this season went um, not only to win that game, 170 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: but the player that was Russel Douglas having been on 171 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: the practice squad for Arizona, the fact that the Packers 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: had played such an incredible game shorthanded and it had 173 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: a chance to put it away in a goal to 174 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: ghost situation on the one yard line, failed to get 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: the clinching points. And then as Kyler Murray was taking 176 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals the other way down the field, you just 177 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: felt like, oh my gosh, this one's gonna slip away. 178 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna slip away, and Russell Douglas makes the interception 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: on the past to a j. Green. So that was 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: that was my top moment of the season, the Cardinals 181 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: never recovered that was basically it absolutely was the turning 182 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: point of their season. There's no question about it. And 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: I think it's important to kind of note those at 184 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: times because while it was such a high moment for 185 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay, it shows you a way this league goes 186 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: and how teams go up, teams go down, and is 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: about that consistency in between. Yeah, no question about it. 188 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Favorite touchdown, favorite touchdown, Oh man, there are so many. 189 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: The Lazard one, the leaping Lazard one was one I'm 190 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: probably gonna remember for a while. Um, shoot, the opponents 191 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: escaping me now though? Was that was that the Minnesota game? Yeah? Yeah, 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: the one where he goes up and came down with 193 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: it sort of on the side of the end zone there. 194 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: He looked like Megatron on that play. Uh. And you know, 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: there's so many different ones you could pick, though, Mike, 196 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, I mean Davante had a handful of 197 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: on the second half of the season. The Lazard one 198 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: is the one that stands out to me though, because 199 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: that was at a time in which the Packers really 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: needed somebody else to step up. They were still trying 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: to find themselves without Randall Cobb. You knew it was 202 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, but who's gonna be that secondary playmaker and 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Lazard to have whatever was five touchdowns in the last 204 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: x amount of games. I mean he really came on 205 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: strong for that roster. Yeah. Absolutely, and I I have 206 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: a different choice. I don't want to discount um. You 207 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: know the Aaron Rodgers breaking Brett Farve's record, you know 208 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: that touchdown pass to Lazard, But that is actually not 209 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: my pick for me. I actually go all the way 210 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: back to Week two. If you remember the home game 211 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lion and the threaded ball down the 212 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: middle seemed to Tony in that town at the goal 213 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: line Alex ANZALONEI I believe is how you pronounced the name. 214 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: He was the linebacker and coverage on Tonnan had had 215 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: his back to the to the play. Rogers fired it 216 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: as you said, as you just said, right past his 217 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: ear hole for the touchdown. And this is this is 218 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: in week two, coming off of when you know all 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: of whatever was getting thrown wherever. With regard to that 220 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: Packers Week one performance against the Saints and Aaron Rodgers 221 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: through that touchdown pass, um, I thought it was maybe 222 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: his most impressive throws certainly one of his most impressive 223 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: throws of the season. That's one that just the visual 224 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: of that from the lambeau Field press box and how 225 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: we saw the visual of that just sticks in my mind. 226 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that play. You got that one right, 227 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: that is out, that is absolutely there are any right 228 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: and wrong answers here, No, because it was the most 229 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I've had the advantage of thinking about. Yeah, it was funny. 230 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I kind of forgotten about this as soon as you 231 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: said week two. I'm like, oh, I know where he's 232 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: going with this. Uh, And I'll tell you what. No, 233 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm putting I'm putting you on the spot. You I 234 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: didn't even give you the categories in advance, so you know, 235 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting you on this. But Tony in man 236 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: losing him the second half of the season, they did 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: a good job of sort of stems, you know, stemming 238 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: the tide for the most part. But Man on life, 239 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: you saw replacing replacing a guy who had double digit 240 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns the previous season, and he wasn't having that type 241 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: of statistical year. But there was still plenty of time 242 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: left in the season that you felt and I felt 243 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: like that that he could catch fire. At any time, 244 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately the injury and he didn't have that opportunity. 245 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Just look at what Lazard did. Lazard was off to 246 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: a pretty quiet start the first couple of months, and 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: he ended up being their second biggest playmaker down the stretch. Yeah, 248 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: that's that's a tough one, all right, number three, biggest 249 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: surprise player. Oh man, I see. I was kind of figuring, 250 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna say this, and then I was figuring out, Okay, 251 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: do I say Douglas or do I say, can really 252 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: put you on the spot here today for the sake 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: of not being overly long win did I'm actually gonna 254 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: look towards the players that were here already. Um, if 255 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you want to talk about either of those guys, I'm 256 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna welcome you to doing that. We obviously already discussed 257 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: that huge play that Douglas had in Arizona. The biggest 258 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: surprise player for me though this season, I'm actually going 259 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: to give that credit to Eric Stokes because this is 260 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: a guy I wish we could go back to training camp, 261 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: but we never. You know, these are the things like 262 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: you wish when we had the locker room access, you 263 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: could just like ask DeVante about Stokes, like just one 264 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: on one, not just one quick quote, Like actually, like 265 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: get some some detail there, because Mike, there's no cameras 266 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: at training camp. We don't see these team periods that 267 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: that film does not live in the public domain. But 268 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: Rogers and Adams were targeting that young man a lot. 269 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: They went after him and and that, and that was 270 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: intentional on the part of the coaching status to test, 271 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: to test Eric Stokes, this young first round draft pick, 272 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: right out of the box in training camp. Alright, best quarterback, 273 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: best receiver, you gotta go and stop him on a 274 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: daily basis. And he took his lumps, but he he battled. 275 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: He battled his butt off. In the first two weeks 276 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: of the season. Remember we did some unscripted I remember 277 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: I wrote some inboxes. I said, listen, whether it was 278 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: Casey Hayward, whether it was Micah Hyde, whether it was 279 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Jay are these young rookies, man, they play right away. 280 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: When you have six defensive backs on the field most 281 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: of the time, at least for half the game, these 282 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: young guys are going to get out there. Stokes had 283 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: to get thrown into the fire against San Francisco when 284 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Kevin King was a scratch during warmups right, or maybe 285 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: it was whatever week that was for that guy to 286 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: play as many snaps as he did and look as 287 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: good as he did and not be a liability at 288 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: any point this season. I just think that speaks so 289 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: well of him. He has so many natural, God given 290 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: talents that his speed, his ranginus, is his his his 291 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: athletic ability is just off the charts that you can 292 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: see why he was picked in the first round. And 293 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the guy didn't even have to lean on it that 294 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: much this year. He was able to actually play like 295 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: so many times on Sam Shields was younger, he had 296 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: to really lean on those skills while the rest of 297 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: his game caught up. But there's the difference between an 298 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: undrafted guy to Sam Shields. In a first round pick, 299 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: ericson a guy that was playing receiver at Miami and 300 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: a guy that was playing I like that. I like 301 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: that pick. I was fully prepared for you to say 302 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: either Devondre Campbell or Douglas and I was just going 303 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: to pick the other one. But no, Definitely Campbell and 304 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Douglas are the two guys that jump out the most 305 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: to me. Campbell because he didn't show up until June, 306 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: when the offseason program was almost over and then essentially 307 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: became the signal caller, the leader, the guy in the 308 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: middle of everything in Joe Barry's defense for you know, 309 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: his first year as a coordinator here and as we 310 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: talked about just he changed the look, the feel, the 311 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: way this defense played. You can't you can't give him 312 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: enough credit. And then to do what he did and 313 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: earned first team All Pro on on top of it. UM. 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Very impressive. UM. I would have probably say Blast was 315 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: an even bigger surprise, UM because because of coming off 316 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: of another team's practice squad. When Jay hear Alexander went down. 317 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know how I like to 318 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: talk about things West. You know, your premier positions are 319 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: are passer, pass protector as in left tackle, pass rusher, 320 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: edge rusher, and pass defender. Your cornerbacks. When Jay you're 321 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Alexander went down, the Packers didn't have a ton of 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: depth at cornerback. You were looking at that as a 323 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: potentially huge loss. They plucked Douglas off of Arizona's practice squad. 324 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,479 Speaker 1: He's here for a week or so. He's thrown in 325 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago. After the opening series of the game, when 326 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: Justin Fields took the Bears right down the field for 327 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown, Douglas comes off the bench and gets thrown 328 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: in there and basically didn't come off the field the 329 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: rest of the season. And then, of course you all 330 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: know the pick in Arizona, a couple of picks six 331 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: is uh in in back to back games at lambeau Field. 332 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: The two interceptions on Christmas Day, including the clincher against 333 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield there to win the game against the Browns. 334 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Um this is as much and he ends up getting 335 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl alternate status based on all of that. When 336 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: when this is a guy who started the season and 337 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: wasn't even on an active roster and had bounced around 338 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: between three or four other teams just trying to to 339 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: land a job. His story this year was was absolutely remarkable. 340 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I remember Washington, the first Packers home game where this 341 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: guy is active, and I remember watching that game and 342 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: watching how he collapsed on the ball and how hard 343 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: he played, and I said, this guy is different. It 344 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: was even about the interceptions. It wasn't about you know, 345 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: making big plays or touchdowns or anything like that. Just 346 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: the way he had a relentless pursuit to the football. 347 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's six ft two. He's two uter 348 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and eight pounds. He was a third round pick three 349 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: years ago. Why was he on the practice squad for 350 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals? And and I and last time I 351 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: want to say this because who knows. We'll see what happens. 352 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: This might be the last time we talked about Douglas 353 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: until free agency. The Cardinals keep getting ripped for Douglas. 354 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: The Cardinals deserve no there's you can't shame them at 355 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: all for what they did. The Packers had a bunch 356 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: of veterans that they had signed to to their practice squad. 357 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: It's what you do in this league. It was week 358 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: one of the regular season. The Houston Texans are the 359 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: ones that cut this guy loose after a week. They 360 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't eve give him a chance to really prove himself. 361 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Arizona pro him on the practice squad. Maybe he stayed 362 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: there too long, but I give them credit for giving 363 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: him an opportunity. But this guy to pick up this 364 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: playbook as quickly as he did and to make himself 365 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: a contributor by the end of the month October. That 366 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: is why he's the biggest surprise. I've never seen anything 367 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: like that. And the stories of Campbell and Douglas both 368 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: go to show in this league how you know, the 369 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: old adage of of opportunity and environment and timing and 370 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: all of that, how it can make such a difference. 371 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Because because with Campbell we had talked about how you know, 372 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: he got a chance to be back man instead of 373 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Robin Right and Joe Barry scheme seemed to be just 374 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: absolutely the perfect fit for him. He he walked right 375 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: into a perfect situation and he seized it. He completely 376 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: took advantage of it. Russell Douglass again, it was opportunity. 377 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: Russell Douglas is never putting on a Packers uniform. If 378 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: JayR Alexander plays the entire season, he would he would 379 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: never have been here. Um, So it was an opportunity. 380 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: But then he comes here, he sort of you know, 381 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: hitches his wagon so to speak to Jerry Gray and 382 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: learns a lot more about how to watch film and 383 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: prepare and he becomes a film junkie. All the stories 384 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: we heard about, you know, seven eight o'clock at night 385 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: in the team cafeteria after everybody's gone home and he's 386 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: got his iPad, they're looking at film. The coaches would 387 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: see that. So environment opportunity. All that those two guys 388 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: are are are great examples. I just want to make 389 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: this point too quickly, Campbell. I hope the NFL has 390 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: taken like free agents have taken notice of what Davanre 391 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Campbell did, because there's such a emphasis on Okay, I 392 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: either get cut or I get let go. This league 393 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: new year starts on March seventeenth. I gotta sign as 394 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: soon as I can, or I'm gonna look like nobody 395 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: wants me. Campbell wasn't afraid of that. Man. He said, 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: you know what, if I got to take this thing 397 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: into June before signing with the team, I'm gonna do it. 398 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: It was he was going to find the right opportunity 399 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: for himself. Because I think I didn't get that. He 400 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: didn't say this directly. I don't want to put words 401 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: in his mouth, but it almost did kind of feel 402 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: like when when he left at Lant it was like, well, 403 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: Arizona was the best opportunity in terms of money, in 404 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: terms everything, I'm gonna go there, and it wasn't the 405 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: right fit for him this situation. He waited it out, 406 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: he was cerebral about it, and now he's going to 407 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: make a pretty good pay day, whether it's here, it's 408 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: somewhere else in the league. Not enough players do that 409 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: type of thing. Yeah, absolutely, Next one unsung hero. You 410 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: can take this any direction you want. You know, I'm 411 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna say this, uh, because I don't think he gets 412 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: nearly enough credit for what he did this year is 413 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick was one of the names that the top 414 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: of my list too. They used a second round draft 415 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: pick on Josh Meyers and rightfully, so you look at 416 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: this kid, Mike, He's a mack truck like he has 417 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: everything you look for. You draw up a center on 418 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: a on a you know, prototype in this in this 419 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: day and age, as centers keep inning bigger the days 420 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: of the Scott Wells. Is no offense to Scott, but 421 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: he was a much smaller guy, a Pro Bowl center 422 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: in his own right. But that's not what centers look 423 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: like any They look like Josh Meyers, who could be 424 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: a freaking tackle that the kid is so tall. But 425 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: they got put in a real difficult spot because Corey 426 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Lindsley's gone. He's been the center now for all of 427 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: basically half a season in his last seven years in 428 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Lucas Patrick had signed that really quietly, had 429 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: signed that extension at the end of the nineteen season 430 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: that took him through his first year of unrestricted free agency, 431 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: and he had learned the center of this position he 432 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: did not play in college, learned it, developed it in 433 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: The Packers had to use him there for ten games. 434 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: The reason Green Bay was able to get on this 435 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: run late in the season, a lot of it had 436 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: to do with how Lucas Patrick had settled in there. 437 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers paid him the ultimate compliments, saying that this 438 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: guy can be a legitimate solid center in the National 439 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Football League. And when time came for Myers to come back, 440 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: Lucas took his lunch pale and he went back to 441 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: right guard. That's where he finished the season. I don't 442 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: know what happens with Lucas Patrick this offseason. He'll be 443 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. But what he has given this team, 444 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: it was a great story. Tryout guy didn't get any 445 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: undrafted contracts. He had to earn everything he got in 446 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay. The guy's leaving Green Bay as a bona 447 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: fide NFL football player, and I hope he gets compensated accordingly. 448 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: But for them to put that much of an investment 449 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: in center Mike. Again, this is a position. For a 450 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: number of years, the Packers were using undrafted free agents. 451 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: They were using Jeff Saturday, I mean late round picks. 452 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: God bless you know, Scott Wells, but he was a 453 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: seventh rounder. This is pretty much their highest draft pick 454 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: they'd put into that position in years time. And then 455 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: they lose Myers and it has to be Patrick. And 456 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Patrick did the job fast, you know, an incredible season, 457 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: and I thought, for a guy that doesn't get enough credit, yeah, 458 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Lucas. Patrick was my pick on offense. 459 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: On defense, yeah, you stole you stole one from me there. 460 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: I I knew, I knew it would happen. That's okay. Um, 461 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time picking between two guys on defense, 462 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: so I'm going to talk a little bit about both 463 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: of them. The first one is Adrian Amos. And it 464 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: may sound kind of strange to say, oh, this guy 465 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: was one of the defensive captains. How can he be 466 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: an unsung hero? But he he didn't have some you know, 467 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: monster year. Statistically, he didn't get a whole lot of 468 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: recognition of anything in terms of Pro Bowl or All 469 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: Pro and or any of that kind of stuff, but 470 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: some of the things that we've already talked about here recently, 471 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: a rookie cornerback and Eric Stokes, you're dealing with JayR 472 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Alexander's injury, Russell Douglas, a new guy coming into the secondary. 473 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos was kind of the was kind of that 474 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: glue guy in the defensive backfield that that held everything together, right. 475 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: He was a veteran guy. He knows what he's doing, 476 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: he's he's respected. All those guys look up to him. 477 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: He could answer all their questions. I'm sure, you know, 478 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: to be a fly on the wall in a in 479 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive back meeting room when they're going 480 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: over film and stuff like that, I think would give 481 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: us even more insight into the kind of the kind 482 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: of guy that Adrian Amos is. So he's one of 483 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: the guys I wanted to mention in this category. The 484 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: other one, also on the defensive side, I'm gonna say, 485 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: is Dean Lowry um because for years we've been we've 486 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: been saying, you know, the packers need the packers need 487 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: that that tandem guy, that guy to pair with Kenny Clark, right, 488 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: and Dean Lowry has been a very solid player for 489 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: the Packers since he was drafted in the fourth round 490 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: here in I thought this season, after a little bit 491 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: of a slow start, when Dean Lowry started to come 492 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: on this year, he maintained that level of play like 493 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. He became a very very 494 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: not not just the guy lined up next to Kenny Clark, 495 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: he became a very strong, complimentary piece there in the 496 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: defensive line, next to uh Um, next to Kenny Clark 497 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: and um. I I really thought Rey's impact on a 498 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: on a steady consistent basis was the best it's been 499 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: in his career to this point. Yeah. And he looked bigger, 500 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: stronger everything. I mean, he he checked all the boxes 501 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: he set career. He's a strong dude, man. I mean, 502 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Kenny Clark is strong. Like, don't get me don't 503 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: get me wrong. But Kenny would always say he has 504 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: to remind Dean how strong he is, like, hey, just 505 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: just bull rush the guy, you know, don't you know 506 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: you don't you don't need to to pussy foot around, 507 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: so to speak, like go after him because your strength 508 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: will get the job done. And when you look at 509 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: the film, Dean Lawry was able to use that strength 510 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of positive ways. That's sixteen draft, man, 511 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I think to me it goes 512 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: down as one of the more underrated ones that Ted 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: Thompson had because fifteen did not go well. Nobody's gonna 514 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: sit here and say that the fifteen draft was was 515 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: a world beater by any means. But sixteen, I think 516 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: is a big reason why Green Bay was able to 517 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: get this thing back on the tracks in nineteen and 518 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, start to build something here 519 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: on defense, certainly it was Blake Martinez for a time 520 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: until that torch was passed now to deave Andre Campbell. 521 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: But for a defensive tackle, that's the first round pick, 522 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: like Kenny Clark, who's by the way at the end 523 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: of the first round, there's no gimmes at the end 524 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: of the first round. Kenny could have not worked out 525 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: at that spot, but to hit on him and then 526 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: also find Dean in the fourth round as a comp pick. 527 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Those two. To have two guys played together for six 528 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: years and they're both under contract for next year. That 529 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: doesn't happen in the National Football League a lot. And 530 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: they're the leaders, they're the longest tenure members of the defense, 531 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: and certainly when you talk about guys that I think 532 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: probably deserve to have more respect put on their name, 533 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: Dean Lowry definitely is on top of that list. Yeah. 534 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I like those picks there, Lucas Patrick, Dean Lowry, Adrian 535 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: Amos getting uh getting some run in the Unsung had 536 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: little awards that we give out. We got it. We 537 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: have to little little trophies or something that will slide 538 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: them slide them forward. Last one, last one, and we're 539 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: going a little bit long today, but but that's okay. 540 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: It's our last show for I'm not doing another one, 541 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: So hang with us. Marv Um Marv's our producers as 542 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: you all. Alright, last one before we get to championship weekend. Here. 543 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: The craziest thing you saw this the craziest thing I 544 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: saw this year? Uh? Is it? Is it the Packers? 545 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: You can because otherwise it's probably Stefan digs level in 546 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: that fan last ye. That was pretty crazy. Uh. The 547 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: craziest thing I saw this year from the Green Bay Packers. 548 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: While I try to think of a better answer, I'm 549 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna say the injuries because we last year. One of 550 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: the reasons why when they lost to the Bucketeers. What 551 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: that it was so difficult is it's like, well, they're 552 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: not gonna have a healthy year like that again, I 553 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: mean they were just nothing went wrong and then this 554 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: missing one key guy there in the playoffs last year 555 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: obviously in baktr but the rest of the team was 556 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: basically healthy. This year, absolutely completely differ year. Nothing went right. 557 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Every everyone was injured. To lose the Darius, to lose 558 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: Jayarra the first month of the season and basically have 559 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: them missed they missed the rest of the regular season 560 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: and get him back for the playoffs, and then losing 561 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: some guys here and there to COVID positive tests too. 562 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: That that got thrown in on top of all your 563 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: regular injuries that that can happen in the course of 564 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: an NFL sea So the injuries are one thing. I'll 565 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: tell you what it was though, now that I got 566 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more time to think about it, it 567 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: was Kirk Cousins completing the past to Garrett Bradberry. That 568 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: was the craziest thing. I saw this good one as levels, 569 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Uh the tight end there, I forget which one that was. 570 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: The ball gets popped up and was there tight end? Yeah, 571 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: good pick though, I like that. Yeah, that was That 572 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: was nuts because everybody's staring at it, like what just happened? 573 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: That was? That was wild. It was it was the 574 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: It was It was the you know, the Immaculate Reception 575 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Part two, except it wasn't Terry Bradshaw and Frank o' harris. 576 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: It was Kirk Cousins and Garrett Bradberry and I forgot 577 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: which reporter asked Amos about it, But you know, Amos 578 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: lays this big old hit, big big I'm hit. You 579 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: think you clean hit, but you think the play is 580 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: over and then here's this three pound not charge and 581 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: at you with the football. So yeah, that was the 582 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: craziest thing I saw. Yeah. My my pick, my pick 583 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: is the is the ending to the Cincinnati game. All 584 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: of the all of the missed field goals back and 585 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: forth by by both teams and multiple I've never I 586 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: have never watched a game that had that many walk 587 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: off opportunities that were missed before the before a walk 588 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: off opportunity then was good and they actually did walk 589 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: off the field finally like that, I mean. And it 590 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: was something about in terms of the number of go 591 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: ahead or game winning missed field goals within a certain 592 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: amount of time in the fourth quarter, over time whatever, 593 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: it did set a record like it was not the 594 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: type of game that had ever happened before. And and 595 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to see another one 596 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: like that. That was absolutely insane. No, And actually that 597 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: was also the thing that told me that Evan McPherson 598 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a pretty good kicker in this 599 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: because you would have thought that, oh my gosh, this 600 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: poor kid misses this kick. Yeah, Crosby. Crosby then finally 601 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: makes one, makes the kick at the end, and Evan 602 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: McPherson is not just you know, sitting on the bench, 603 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, like staring staring off into space, you know, 604 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: wondering like, oh my gosh, how did I cost? I mean, he's, 605 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: as you said, he's going out there kind of joking 606 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: around with Crosby like how like what just happened out there? 607 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: That told me that that kids confident and certainly end 608 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: up being the p f w A Rookie of the Year. 609 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: And that uh yeah, and he drilled drilled the walk 610 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: off game game winner to get the Bengals into the 611 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: a f C Championship with that win, or the Tennessee Titans, 612 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: which We're gonna get to those championship games in a moment. 613 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: But a shout out to our sponsors series x M. 614 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the 615 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: minute NFL news that true football fanatics need seven three six, 616 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: And at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like 617 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, and 618 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or sub 619 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: in a bowl. Cousin Subs, we believe it. Let's give 620 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: some credit to serious cousins. We've been doing these reads 621 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: all year long. That's what keeps us having paychecks. And also, 622 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: I did happen to get a gift card this year 623 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: to cousins that I haven't used yet, So I think 624 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: there's some shakes in my future here once it's not 625 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: negative fifteen degrees outside. And I would say that that 626 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: you should you should take me out for a sandwich, 627 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: except everybody knows that I steal your sandwiches all the time. 628 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then Mark said I should take him 629 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: as well too, But yeah, we're even You're good, all right? Um. 630 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Championship weekend here wes Cincinnati at Kansas City, San Francisco 631 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: at the l A. Rams, Although what I'm hearing is, uh, 632 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: there are reports based on secondary market ticket activity that 633 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: they're looking at potentially two thirds of SOFI Stadium being 634 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco fans on Sunday for the NFC Championship. That's 635 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: sort of what's been leaking out. We'll see if it 636 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: actually happens. But anyway, what was the worst idea of Mike, 637 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Let's put you on the spot. What was the worst idea? 638 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Seventeen regular season games or putting two teams in l A. 639 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say putting one team 640 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: in l A or putting two teams in l A. Like, 641 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: what was the what was the worst idea? Um? Yeah, 642 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean Sean McVeigh pleading pleading with the Rams fans 643 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: not to sell their tickets because he knows that the 644 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: fans are going to overrun. That is, it's really not 645 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: going to be a home game for the l A Rams, 646 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: with the exception of really being in their home locker 647 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: room probably and not having to get on not having 648 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: to get on an airplane. But um, what was the question, 649 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: how do you see these games playing? Who do you 650 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: think who do you think will be playing in the 651 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Out of those four teams, I think Kansas 652 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: City's winning it. So that so that makes it so 653 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: that I believe that they're going to beat the Cincinnati Bengals. Um, 654 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: do I have a coin you're gonna flip that NFC 655 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: the third meeting in the in the NFC West between 656 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to Rams just because 657 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna because of the fans. But 658 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: it's really difficult to be good teams three times in 659 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: the same season as a tall task for San Francisco 660 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: to actually be able to do that. I saw that 661 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: stead already that they're the first team in NFL history 662 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: now to close the season with three straight wins over 663 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: teams with at least twelve victories. I learned that from 664 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: the internet. Uh so to make that the fourth you know, 665 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: to go Rams, Dallas Packers Rams again, that's a that's 666 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: something else. If they do it there there nobody's underdog 667 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But I just feel like the 668 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: Rams caught onto something. Man. I feel like Matthew Stafford 669 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: is in one of those rhythms right now. They got 670 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: to clean up the run game. They have to minimize 671 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: the mistakes. But defensively they can stop San Francisco, So 672 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: can they get the points that they need? I agree 673 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: with you, I think it's uh. I think it's going 674 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: to be Kansas City against Los Angeles. We're gonna at 675 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: a rematch of that highest scoring Monday night football game 676 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: ever from a few years ago. Obviously it will be 677 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: with a different Rams quarterback now that Matthew Stafford is 678 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: there instead of Jared Goff. But it seems like that's uh, 679 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: that's where this uh, that's where this is headed. But 680 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: who the heck knows? Right? I mean, um, but what 681 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: is exciting? I'm interested to see. I'm interested to see 682 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: how Stafford does because, as I mentioned before, he finished 683 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: the regular season on a in a bad rut of 684 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: turning the ball over and obviously he enters the postseason 685 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: with a ton of pressure on him as a quarterback 686 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: who's never a veteran quarterback and very accomplished quarterback who's 687 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: never won a postseason game. Before. He gets that monkey 688 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: off his back against Arizona, the Cardinals did not play well. 689 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: He wins that. Then he puts together a really, really 690 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: tremendous performance against Tampa Bay on the road last week 691 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: and then survives and and makes the big plays at 692 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: the end to make up for all of his teammates 693 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: fumbling the ball over the place. And now suddenly it's 694 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: just it's it seems like all of you know, the 695 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: whole narrative about Matthew Stafford and the pressure on him 696 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: and everything. He's he's in a he's in a different 697 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: place now heading into this game. It just feels like 698 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: and I'm very curious to see if he can take 699 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: this to the finish line, which is which is what 700 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: the Rams, which is what the Rams got him for. 701 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Rams defense too. Von Miller. When 702 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: the Rams played here at Lambeau, von Miller had fairly 703 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: recently joined their roster and I believe was kind of 704 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: dealing with an ankle injury. Watching the Packers offensive film 705 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: Rams defensive film from that game, von Miller was a 706 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: complete non factor really in that game against the Packers. 707 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: Von Miller is a big time factor. Um, He's back 708 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: to being looking like the old von Miller now and 709 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: him being added to what was already a pretty good 710 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: Rams defense. I think the Rams are in uh. I 711 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: think the Rams are in pretty good position to h 712 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: to pull this off if Aaron Donald keeps his hands 713 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: off of the opposing offensive lineman's head and neck area. 714 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I like this. The Los Angeles Rams chances here down 715 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: the stretch. They listen. Man, we talked about being all in. 716 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe in it, but the Rams are all in, 717 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: Like this is it. They're on there like they didn't 718 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: take out a second moregin. They took out like a 719 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: third one this thing. So they gotta win. Yeah, absolutely, well. 720 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: We just set the record, I believe, for the longest 721 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: unscripted episode in the long six years of was it 722 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: five years or six years we've been We've done this 723 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: for six years, six years. Let's say. I can't even 724 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: I can't even keep track anymore. But with that, we 725 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: are going to call it a wrap on this edition 726 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. We will be back at some point 727 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: during the off season on a whim who knows. Just 728 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: stay tuned to Packers dot com, where we have all 729 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: the coverage of your favorite team, the Green Bay Packers. 730 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: It's all there for you for West. I'm Mike. Thank 731 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: you for tuning in, everybody, and for tuning in all 732 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: season long. We will see you next time.