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Speaker 1: Be around the NFL Podcast. I can't do any TikTok. Dancy,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition. Will be around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hand As. That comes to you

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Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Gregg Rosenthal's here,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's here. Someone else is here. She's carved out

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Speaker 1: some time she travels across these great United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Back on the A T N podcast. You know who

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Speaker 1: it is, the Wolf. I'm about seven here today, little um,

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Speaker 1: worse for wear, not on not on air today, Colleen.

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Speaker 1: And it feels like you're feeling the effects of whatever

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Speaker 1: happened last night. This song that was getting me ready, Connie.

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Speaker 1: Connie Fox is definitely here, Colleen Wolf did not. Can

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Speaker 1: I know she is? Can I offer some unsolicited advice? Colleen?

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Speaker 1: And we know? And we thank you so much because

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Speaker 1: Colleen is in Philadelphia, her hometown, as part of her

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Speaker 1: spin across the country for training camp coverage with NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: And and I understand it. You've been meeting up with friends,

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Speaker 1: You've been getting a little loose. Um. Connie Fox is

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Speaker 1: tagged in for Colleen Wolf today. What what I would

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Speaker 1: suggest is when Tugboat text you and says, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you want to come on the show? Just say no.

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Speaker 1: Just say no, and just assume that whatever you have

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Speaker 1: going on later in the week is gonna make today

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Speaker 1: very difficult for you, and nobody's gonna have an issue

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Speaker 1: with it, um, because I hate to see you like this.

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Speaker 1: I feel ready to go, ready to rock. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm picking up all of the pieces this morning, so

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Speaker 1: I will I'm ready to go. I will offer to

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Speaker 1: you that you know, for behind the scenes, we do

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Speaker 1: a lot of texting, um, sometimes not a lot before

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Speaker 1: the show to plant out. And I would say that

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Speaker 1: Connie got pulled into one of the heavier um nights

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Speaker 1: of texting and planning and questions around the show ever,

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Speaker 1: and you can kind of just feel the aura of like,

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Speaker 1: why the F did I say yes to this potential

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Speaker 1: non paid assignment. Well, I thought that, like I was

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Speaker 1: But and then I realized that I was going to

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Speaker 1: be in like seventeen different cities, and this was my

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Speaker 1: one off day and I woke up this morning to

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Speaker 1: do a lot of maths. So thanks Dan, Well, this

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Speaker 1: is yeah, you picked a really great episode to accidentally

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Speaker 1: um say yes to, because this episode will be covering

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Speaker 1: the overly esoteric division power rankings UM which what is

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Speaker 1: that emphasis on? What's that emphasis? So that is odd

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Speaker 1: per odd per if there can be UM D V

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Speaker 1: a big one, all these things that everybody's pat themselves

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Speaker 1: Well guess what odd per is here? The overly esoteric

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Speaker 1: division power rankings. And yet I did I did. It's

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Speaker 1: some somewhat of a homework assignment. I gave each of

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Speaker 1: you know, we I asked team for team. I gave

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Speaker 1: the division power rankings in the NFL entering one and

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Speaker 1: we will get into that later today. I'm excited and

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Speaker 1: I was really interested the results some interesting stuff. Math

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Speaker 1: usually not you're you're strong suit famously, you know, struggled

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427
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Speaker 1: and running now, so let's see if he can get

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Speaker 1: back at it. I would like, let's say Justin Herbert

429
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Speaker 1: like stubbed his toe, nothing serious, but out for the

430
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Speaker 1: wild card round. Rivers comes in Drew Bledsoe like the

431
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: year they won the Super Bowl, and wins a playoff

432
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Speaker 1: game for the Chargers and then hands it back off

433
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Speaker 1: to Justin Herbert comes in for one game. I don't

434
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Speaker 1: think we need seven weeks of Philip Rivers, but just

435
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: comes in and does something heroic and then really rides

436
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Speaker 1: off into the sunset. I can see it, like he's

437
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: the type of guy, especially last season, you would think

438
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: maybe the wheels are to come flying off, and maybe

439
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: he throws a couple of ducks earlier in the game

440
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh boy, and then all of a

441
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Speaker 1: sudden flash forward late in the fourth quarter and it's

442
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: and he has the ball at midfield, Like I could

443
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: totally see Rivers doing something special like that. Um, I

444
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: feel like the Colts probably won't be around by December

445
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: though at this rate. And I didn't trust them with

446
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz. And now if Carson Wentz is limited,

447
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson since we last tape, is out for five

448
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: to twelve weeks somehow, with the exact same bone injury,

449
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: which is bizarre that supposedly he's had since high school

450
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: or since birth. Perhaps they both have the same bone

451
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: defect and had the exact same surgery with the same

452
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: bizarre five to twelve week timeline. Weird things are happening

453
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I feel like your season can over by

454
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Speaker 1: one little thing. Though, Greg there is a report and

455
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not Jacobies and it's Sam Ellinger at this point,

456
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: according to Stephen Holder, has people within the organization buzzing,

457
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: so you never know, you never know what could happen. Also,

458
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: that's like such a big window five to twelve weeks, right,

459
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot. And it also screw was

460
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: the Eagles over too, because if Wentz comes back at

461
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: the back end of that, you know timetable, then the

462
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: Eagles don't get that first round pick. It reminds It

463
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: reminds me of those cable guys they tell you they'll

464
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: be there from twelve to six pm. Can you be

465
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: a little more specific? Please? I love him Greg, Those

466
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Speaker 1: voice work. Hey, Connie, are we okay? By the way,

467
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: are you mad at me? Are you? Like? Honestly? Man?

468
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Speaker 1: Maybe you even shoot me a text after the show, like,

469
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: hey man, that was an ambush, like what was up

470
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Speaker 1: with that? Or are you getting Are you getting those

471
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: vibes right now right now? But I can't. I can't

472
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: tell because of there's like a haze of Petron right now,

473
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: so I can't really get through. Honestly, I feel like

474
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: I am drenched in tequila right now. Um, I don't

475
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: have feel anything at all, quite frankly, so I don't

476
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: anywhere like spending time with you this offseason. Your natural

477
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: state is hungover, at least when you're used to it.

478
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: She's such a pro though, It's amazing. She's like learning

479
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: those legends. You would never know it. Hey, is it

480
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: too personal to ask about the finger? Oh? No? So yeah,

481
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: I know this is an audio show, so I'll describe

482
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: my my finger right now. So Kurt Warner threw me

483
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Speaker 1: a pass. Uh, and I've never actually like caught a

484
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Speaker 1: ball while running, Like I've never caught an actual pass

485
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: from Hall of Fame quarterback for sure. So he threw

486
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Speaker 1: me the ball and then I don't know, I think

487
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Speaker 1: I might have broke my finger. Um, it's I can't.

488
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I think I'm gonna go to thank you.

489
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Your cat was incredible. We have do we have that

490
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: Ricky high point his blonde hair just you know, hanging

491
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Speaker 1: out there in the wind carere just getting some reply

492
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: before the show. That's right down, thank you, thank you. Uh,

493
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: we'll get into that a little bit later as well.

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Speaker 1: Break down that play. Great quarterbacking there. Kurt. Wait, so

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Speaker 1: is that that's the actual throw and catch where you

496
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: injured the finger? Yeah? Yeah, it's so when I went

497
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: to catch the ball, uh, it hit it hit the

498
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: top of my pinky, and I like, I think it

499
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: just went sideways. And then I was with Baldy the

500
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Speaker 1: other day, so I was like, well, this is perfect.

501
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: Maybe he can give me some pointers here on what

502
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: not to do. So I think I'm gonna go get

503
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: X rays after this show, just to make sure that

504
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, not going to be a problem,

505
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: because I messed up my thumb on the other hand too,

506
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: so I have I was wearing a splint last night. Um,

507
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's just turning like a lot of different

508
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: colors and I'm probably gonna lose my nail. And it

509
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: sounds like you super jammed. It was that the first take?

510
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: Or did you go to the end zone four or

511
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: five times before they recorded a catch? Well, I will

512
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Speaker 1: tell you that I caught it on the first try,

513
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: but they weren't rolling. So then I went out again

514
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: and I caught it, but it dropped it. Uh. Then

515
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: I went out again and I missed it, and so

516
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I at it on the fourth try there, So I

517
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: got it on the first four you get you get

518
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: credit for that. And is Kurt Warner aware that he's

519
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: seriously maimed you? I don't think so. I don't. I

520
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: don't think he's because I was like Kurt, I can't.

521
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: I couldn't feel my panky for the entire show that

522
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: we did. And also typing right now is difficult whenever

523
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: there's like an A or w involved. That's a lot

524
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: of words, and I have you typing out esoteric power ranking.

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00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, next time I'm saying, no, Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 1: you're listening, and I know you are, buddy, Conie a

527
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: text just to check in. Yeah, little lady bird bones,

528
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I know, I am like a little fragile bird. All right,

529
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. I'm sorry to hear that, Connie.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's just I hope it's just a sprain

531
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: or something in that waldy fingers the rest of your life.

532
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: But it does have like a lot of weird colors

533
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: going on. So yeah, I know it's crooked and it's

534
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: like blue and red and there's a lot of press swollen.

535
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: Still anyway, I think I'll be just fine. All right,

536
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news man, the culture and mess.

537
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: And that was one of the takeaways when I looked

538
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: at the overly esoteric division power rankings UM presented by

539
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: no one at all, not yet anyway. But once it

540
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: takes off, once the odd pers really take off, it's

541
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Speaker 1: going to be a different situation. Here's how it works.

542
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: This is how I figured it out. Okay, the math,

543
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: probably right, I can't guarantee it. And let me start there. Okay.

544
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I did use an Excel spreadsheet to help me here,

545
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: I broke. I asked you three to break each of

546
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: the thirty two teams um to get a score out

547
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: of based on five categories. Okay, And I asked, And

548
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: I want the listeners to understand this. It was not

549
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: something to do. A deep dive and a and studying

550
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: and research and tape watching. Kind of a gut instinct

551
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: when I tell you one to five Bill's quarterback, offensive potential,

552
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: defensive potential, coach and coaching staff. Which is that certain?

553
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Hard to define something, do you you? I took it as

554
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: juice translated as juice, same thing. I can't speak French,

555
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: kind of same thing. Okay, juice, the factor, it factor,

556
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: all that. So those five categories. I then took your

557
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: final scores, reached team okay, added them up divided by four,

558
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: got a division score for everything. I totally. I told

559
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: you it's overly esoteric. But guess what when the math

560
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: was all through and I figured out the division average

561
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: some interesting stuff. So let's go through it. And I

562
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: sent it to you guys, if you want to check

563
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: it out in your emails, UH, if you want to

564
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Speaker 1: see some of the score is and where we differed

565
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: some general overall takeaways on the assignment that I had. UM,

566
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: the most optimistic grader was Mark. Mark's grades were higher

567
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: for most people. I was on the other end of that.

568
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: I was lower than you, guys. UM. The only person

569
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Speaker 1: to privately request our ballot remain anonymous. Colleen the only

570
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: person to offer a score that does not exist Colleen

571
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: A five and after the Packers and uh, Greg, you

572
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: and I were very simpatico UH with our grades. We

573
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: were very close on a lot of teams. UM, and

574
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: then Colleen and Mark were very close with each other.

575
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Which is an interesting breakdown. UM, So let's get to it.

576
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Speaker 1: Eight divisions and when you when you figure it out, yes,

577
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: it adds up to one hundred hundred score maximum. Who

578
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Speaker 1: do you think is the highest score team? By the way, well,

579
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: you just told us you sent the results during the show,

580
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: but you told us to look at it, So now

581
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't answer. I didn't. I would

582
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: have guessed right anyways, it's pretty I would think Tampa Bay.

583
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why not the Chiefs. I would

584
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: have got the chief because that's who I had. I

585
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: had I think as the highest in my mind, in

586
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Speaker 1: my mind, in your mind. Yes, the highest graded team

587
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: in this exercise was the defending Super Bowl champion Buccaneers,

588
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: who had ninety three and a half out of one

589
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: d UM between the four of us when you add

590
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Speaker 1: it all up, and there was another ninety team I

591
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: think a couple more nine teams in there, but nobody

592
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: was at that level. So we we loved the bucks

593
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: um Around these parts. The Chiefs also were high at

594
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Speaker 1: ninety two and the lowest team. That's pretty easy one

595
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: to figure out too. There were some ghastly scores for

596
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans who finished that thirty three and a

597
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: half um when you add up the four scores that

598
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: we gave them, I mean the juice factor. I that

599
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: was my one. I think the only zero I handed out.

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00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to go negative one, but I thought that

601
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: might bab think about zero. Yeah, yeah, there are not

602
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: too many zeros. I think Connie and Mark had a couple,

603
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: but um I I stayed away from them, as did Greg.

604
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. So the according to

605
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Speaker 1: our overly esoteric division power rankings, the worst Division Football,

606
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Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily it's not particularly close as the

607
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Speaker 1: a f C South with a average score of fifty

608
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: seven and a half out of one hundred. It is

609
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Speaker 1: the Colts, Jaguars, Texans Titans division that is worse than

610
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Speaker 1: any other one entering the season. I think, you know

611
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: we have the Titans is a heavy favorite. We had

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Speaker 1: them at seventy six and a half. Um Texans, of course,

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Speaker 1: I said thirty three and a half at the bottom,

614
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: the Colts at sixty three and a half and the

615
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars at fifty six and a half. So I think

616
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: the whole Carson Wentz and now the Quentin Nelson drama

617
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: probably dropped. I would say the Colts. Uh, you know

618
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: some thing that the neighborhood ten points in that drag

619
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: this division down even further. Well, you got to think

620
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: about that division has the worst in football because it's

621
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: got a team that went one in fifteen and it's

622
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: got the team that everyone thinks is no like no

623
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: other division has a two pack that bad, and that

624
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: because of that, you have to think that the Titans

625
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: are one of the most likely teams in the NFL

626
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs like the I would throw the

627
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Bucks in there. Certainly in the Chiefs um the Bills,

628
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe the Titans just in terms of like

629
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Speaker 1: likelihood to make the playoffs? Is up with those teams

630
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: because I don't know, Indianapolis proved proved me wrong. But

631
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: even the Titans as the best team, you wouldn't create

632
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: them the way you would like the Tom Brady New

633
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: England Patriots year after year. I mean, they're good, Are

634
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: they great? We don't know. Yeah, that the the defense

635
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: for the Titans is the one thing that worries me

636
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: a little bit. But with the Colts, just everything that's

637
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: happened with Carson Wentz, you just have such a question

638
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Speaker 1: mark now at that position. I mean, even if he

639
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: does come back at the beginning of that time table,

640
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster for the Colts is really

641
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: really good top to bottom. But if with that huge,

642
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: huge void there, I mean, you don't you really just

643
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get from Carson Wentz when

644
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: he comes back. If he's going to be like the

645
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzen, or if he's going to be more of

646
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz that we saw before, or if he's

647
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: going to even be healthy The whole year. Right next, fans,

648
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: we know, we hear you, we know you're out there.

649
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: If I'm a Jacks fan, I'm thinking this division is winnable.

650
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: It's not that crazy. Their offense. I gave him pretty

651
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: high juice factor at least if nothing else. The Jaguars

652
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: are going to be more interesting with that offensive. Laurens

653
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are curious what

654
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: the Titans offense will look like without Arthur Smith. The

655
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: fact that they're in this division, it's going to give

656
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: them a lot of cushion to kind of figure things out.

657
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: And you would think to me, and you know, maybe

658
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguar surprise surprise us here. Um, I don't think

659
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: the Texans are And we'll see what happens with the

660
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: cults here as message as they are. Don't want to

661
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: get too caught up in a moment, but this feels

662
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: like nine wins could win the division. A nine and

663
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: eight team could come out of this division, and even

664
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: the Titans stumble this year. I feel like that's where

665
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: they can get um all right. Next, the number seven division,

666
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: A little spit of a surprise. I thought the NFC

667
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: North had coming in sixty three point to five out

668
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: of one hundred was the average weighted score. I don't

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00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: know if average weighted is the right terminology. I'm just

670
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: say it with compouns intelligent and then if somebody can

671
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: urry me on that subreddit and then Mark let me know.

672
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Um not weighted in any way. So I don't think, Greg,

673
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: you gotta just you gotta go with edit out the

674
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: word waited and just saved. But that doesn't sound good,

675
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: just like, oh, the average um average weighted is something

676
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: to pop tonight, you know what I mean. It's not waited,

677
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: so it's it's incorrect. We have the favorite. The heavy

678
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: favorite is the Packers. Um, we have them at um.

679
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: Our average score was eighty five out of one hundred,

680
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: which is very good. But it's interesting the true Super

681
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: Bowl level teams that are seen as favorites. We all

682
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: kind of had them, those teams in the early nineties,

683
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: late eighties, so it seems like as a group we

684
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: see the Packers as maybe just a click below those

685
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: great teams, but they're still a heavy favorite in this division.

686
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: The Packers are the Vikings a distant second seventy out

687
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: of one hundred, which actually is a little high. I thought,

688
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: and then The reason why this this is so low

689
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: this division is that the Bears and lines are weighing

690
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: them down. The lines are buried at forty one and

691
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: a half. Uh. The Bears at fifty six and a

692
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: half surprised me a little bit. I thought they would

693
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: have a little more juice and you guys will be

694
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: a little more into them, but apparently not so. The

695
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: fact that the division has one very good, too great team,

696
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: one team that's a little on the bubble, and then

697
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: two teams we see is afterthoughts held back the division

698
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: as a whole. Where where did everybody fall on the Vikings.

699
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm high on the Vikings. I thought they were team

700
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: three and a half. I think that was like the

701
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: one note I took. It was like they are the

702
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: ultimate three and a half team, and I think they

703
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: could be better. I'm trying to be conservative. I think

704
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: they have a chance to win this division. I think

705
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: their defense will be good. I think their offense will

706
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: be good enough. Uh. And like they I don't I

707
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: don't see them as two differently than I did going

708
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: into last year, or maybe even a little better on paper,

709
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: I think than than they were going into last year.

710
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: When they're coming off a division title. I'd considered a

711
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: shocker if if the Packers lost the division to any

712
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: one of those teams. But I'm with you that the

713
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: vikings to me and I had to. I have a

714
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: couple of teams, like at the Cardinals just sort of

715
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: like three and a half type. You're you're a B plus.

716
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: I trust you to annoy me long enough and then

717
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: get completely mashed in the playoffs at some point. It's

718
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: the same old story. I think you guys all had

719
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: them at an eighteen at score and I had them

720
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: at sixteen. First of all, Kirk Cousins is the most

721
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: three and a half out of five quarterback that's ever.

722
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: He's not a three MR three and a half four.

723
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: He is MR three and a half out of five UM,

724
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: and I think I ding them a little bit more

725
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: on defense UM and I think I talked about it

726
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: earlier this week that they have so much turnover. I

727
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: think they have sixteen UM new members of their defense

728
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: that it's just such a titanic task for Zimmer to

729
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: now put those guys and get that team playing. But

730
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: if Zimmer, who's a defensive guy, gets it done, my

731
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: two and a half score, that should be a little higher. Also,

732
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of juice for them. Was only

733
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: two out of five from you, that's fair, that's fair.

734
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: But they have a chance, I think, to beat up

735
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: on the on the Bears and Lions, and I think

736
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: there's a chance. All that defensive talent is a huge upgrade.

737
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: That defense is where I'm coming from. They're also getting like, yeah,

738
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: they have a ton of new faces as starters, but

739
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: they get Daniel hunterback who had the neck injury. He

740
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: missed all of last year. Anthony Barr missed like fourteen games.

741
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Um Michael Pierce opted out. So they have a couple

742
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: of guys that are returning who are actually like big factors.

743
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: I think in that defense, I trusted Zimmer and I

744
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: don't need the Packers fans to remind me. I know

745
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: they didn't. I said they won the division two years ago.

746
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: They did not. They famously gagged on Monday Night Football

747
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: and in front of Keith Hansas while me, West and

748
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: Mark and Dan all watched them. Uh, and they didn't

749
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But when one of that's when Keith

750
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: Hansas labeled Matt laflour little boy with a beer And

751
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: I've never got in that sense. Come on, Danny, these

752
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: guys didn't even show up. That's exactly what it sounds like.

753
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Number six. A little bit of a surprise, um that

754
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: they're this high the NFC East and the slight favorite

755
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: according to this group. UH and my computations, my weighted

756
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: computations is the Dallas Cowboys. We haven't at seventy one

757
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: and a half, So we are as a group sucked

758
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: in once again by the Cowboys. The summer of hype

759
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: around everything with this team has us seeing them as

760
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: a division favorite, just slightly over the Washington football team

761
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: at seventy and a half, the Giants far behind the

762
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: pack at fifty nine and a half, and then the

763
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Eagles Connie buried at So they are they have This

764
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: division according to our um overly esoteric division power rankings,

765
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: has to kind of eight to ten win teams and

766
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: then two teams that are kind of afterthoughts here. Well,

767
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: I think with the Cowboys, the big question is the defense.

768
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: How that rebounds with dan Quinn with Uh, I mean,

769
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: they have a lot of different pieces, but last year

770
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: it was just so horrendous to watch, So that's the

771
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: one question for me Dallas. But I mean also, it

772
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all that the Eagles are so low.

773
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Where where did uh the scores come out for the

774
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: coaching staff with the Eagles? You know what, that's funny

775
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: you should say that, because that's one of those ones

776
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: where I tweaked it later because I thought I was

777
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: being a little bit me and I had it. I

778
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: had it a two and a half because I just

779
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: haven't been um overly impressed by some of the sound bites.

780
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: And then I was like, that's totally unfair. I'm gonna

781
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: give him the ben of that, and and I just

782
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: slapped the three there for the Eagles coach, I gave

783
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: him a two. I gave new coaches at two unless

784
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: they felt like they had a little extra juice, because

785
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: you just it's hard to tell if new coaches are

786
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna and I gave a two and a half. I

787
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: gave them another half because they're not doing any Sirianni

788
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: and they give up good vibes. Um, but like, you

789
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta show me at first. Let's see, it's

790
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: such a young staff though, to like even beyond Nick Sirianni,

791
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: that all of like the assistants are really young to

792
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: um but my favorite quote from Sirianni I think that

793
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: was from last week when he was talking about how

794
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: their players are all in attack mode and they're gonna

795
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: attack everything. They're going to attack like these practices and

796
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: then they're going to attack rest and that was my favorite.

797
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Attacking rest is truly spectacular. You know who you know

798
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: who attacks uh rest? Your husband, John Gonzalas. Yeah, I

799
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: mean loves a nap. That's uh, that's he does the

800
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: old reda nap every day. He's a man of leisure.

801
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Remember on on Tybee Island. He during the day just

802
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: like hard right turn out of social activities to like

803
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: a four hour nap. Yes, this is uh, that's what

804
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: not having kids is like, you can you can nap.

805
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: And I like how that that we get kind of

806
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: grades here because you say we're kind of we're falling

807
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. But they got a seventy one and

808
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Washington got a seventy that's right, where like Minnesota was,

809
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: which we were just saying wasn't too high. It kind

810
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: of what makes sense, like they're a SEAMA. Does that

811
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: mean they're kind of a C minus team? It's like,

812
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: you know the Bucks are A's it's it works out

813
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: pretty that's interesting. I don't know if it quite translates

814
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: to the education educational system A to F scale um,

815
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 1: but that's where the waiting would come in. We would

816
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: have to have raise it. I don't think on any

817
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: of these teams. This is part like when I was

818
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: saying that the the numbers um. Although they don't like me,

819
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: I like them. I like that when you actually have

820
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: to assign a score, even if it's something as simple

821
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: as a zero to five, you kind of learned something,

822
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: a little bit something about how you see these teams,

823
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: when you see where you have other teams in the

824
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: same same realm. But I think if you hit seventy,

825
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: you're kind of right on the borderline of being a

826
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: playoff team, Like you're right there. That's what I think

827
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: that this uh data. Some people say data, sometimes I

828
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: say but right now I'm saying data because I think

829
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: there's a little more pop to data. Sure, Hey, did

830
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: any team get a thirty six? Exact? Isn't that what

831
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: you got on the state mandated mattah No? Thirty nine?

832
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh thirty nine? Anyone get a thirty nine? Let's see

833
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: the Texans got you got a thirty three. No one

834
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: else is thirty three and a half one of the Lions.

835
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Perhaps they got a four. That's really what I was

836
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: getting at perfect um look where I am now, ma alright,

837
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: number five the NFC South. How about the NFC South,

838
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the pack, the heavy favorite,

839
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: the Bucks. We all love the Bucks ninety three and

840
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: a half out of one, and I think uh Connie

841
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: and Mark both had a twenty four out of with

842
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: no and then buried in a distant second place the

843
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Saints at seventy. The Falcons, I thought, a little little generous,

844
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: and then the Panthers the bloom is off the map

845
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: rule Rods, I guess with some people on the show

846
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: fifty five and a half Um Greg particularly buried the

847
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: quarterback position. That's Sam Donald Vendetta, which I thankfully I'm

848
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: not connected to anymore. I think a one and a

849
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: half out of five as low as anybody got. The

850
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: Panthers buried by Rosenthal, one of the worst, one of

851
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in football for three years straight. What

852
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: what well? You don't well? I guess the point you're

853
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: making when you give him that great is you do

854
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: not divorce his situation with the player. You think he

855
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: was as responsible as No, I'm not He's equally responsible.

856
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say it's on him and

857
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: it's on Gaze because I've seen many quarterbacks play under

858
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: Adam Gatee and they all played better, like every single

859
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: one of them. Tannehill by like a pretty good amount

860
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: at the exact same part of his career. Uh. And

861
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: then I like Matt Rule as a coach. I think

862
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: I gave him a rolet of the high thing. But yeah,

863
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: I guess it's donald And it's a lot of questions.

864
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: I think in Carolina, what was Sessler's grade for Matt

865
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: Rule for the coaches there and a half? I think,

866
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I think you have this cuts through it because he

867
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: has to give a pure grade and stay out of

868
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: his feelings. And but you like him. You give four.

869
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the highest grade anybody gave him. But

870
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: you didn't do five because you're a man of integrity. Well,

871
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: you know that there's a weighted data skill to Dan

872
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: according to this exercise, So I had to remove, you know,

873
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: my emotions and my empathies toward him. I like, I

874
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: like him as a coach. I believe in him where

875
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: I where I disagree with Greg a little bit or

876
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: where at least I have more patience with Sam Donald

877
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: is like he's never been in a better situation like this,

878
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's got a great play call or

879
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: two and a lot of talent around him. And I

880
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: don't know why, you know, you get Christian McCaffrey back

881
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: to they lost like thirteen games or thirteen games last

882
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: year were decided by one score. They were the worst

883
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: red zone team in the league. So if any of

884
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: that starts to improve, you're looking at a team that

885
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: can get more wins in a pretty shaky divisions. So

886
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: I think it's like arrow up. I'm not saying like

887
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: into the heavens, but one out of five, not even

888
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: one and a half. I don't like proven, the proven

889
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: mediocrates thing, like you'll give a like I didn't give

890
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: that to rookies or whatever. But I'm I'm not optimistic.

891
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I wasn't optimistic about Carson Wentz either, just

892
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: because he's in a new a new spot, like maybe

893
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: he'll be fine, but if he's Teddy Bridgewater, I think

894
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: they'll consider that a pretty big loss. And I have

895
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: my I I have my doubt that he'll have that

896
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: their offensive line I also think on paper could be

897
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: one of the very worst. And that's that's a bad combination. Uh.

898
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: When Sam Donald, they're closer to the Saints and the Falcons,

899
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: then like the Buck the Bucks are so far away,

900
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: like Saints fans have to like. Ultimately, the Saints, Falcons

901
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: and Panthers weren't that far apart compared to how far

902
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: away the Bucks were as the one team. I I

903
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: like the Pants have Christian McCaffrey coming back, and that

904
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Sam Donald as Robbie Anderson, who Matt Rule knows from Temple.

905
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: It's just that that feels like it could maybe break

906
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: uh in a positive way potentially. But yeah, they don't.

907
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: They don't know who their left tackle is going to be.

908
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: All right, Halftime halftime of the overly esoteric Division Power Rankings,

909
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: odd per and a little special guest, A little surprise guest.

910
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't even think we mentioned at the top of

911
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: the show. But this is a big deal because this

912
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: is one of the best beat writers in the game.

913
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: He covers the San Francisco forty Niners for the Athletic.

914
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: He is the great Matt Barrows and he joins the

915
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: e T N podcast. Matt, welcome to the show. First

916
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: of all, this is and Greg d. Thank you very much.

917
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that I'm also a data guy.

918
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Data to me sounds like an art movement, so I

919
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: think we should all go data on this one. Do

920
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: you want to There's this second half to that segment

921
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: that the interminable segment. I will switch over to day

922
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: in the second half of it after this conversation. All right,

923
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: mattter you for joining us. We appreciate it, and listen.

924
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it easy on you. We're not gonna

925
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: necessarily ask for a above the tree tops forty niners

926
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: breakdown right now on the podcast. I think the audience

927
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: and especially as we're very excited to know what is

928
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: going on with Trey Lance because you have a piece.

929
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: And again the Athletic hate plug the athletic a lot.

930
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't get paid by the athletic, but if you shirt, yeah,

931
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: send me a T shirt or whatever, because that is

932
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: just like you know, um, the coverage is so great

933
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: and at training camp you are singing the praises of

934
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. You're wild like everyone else, what he's been

935
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: able to do in these practices. He's barely throwing in

936
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: completions Matt. And it's I think the question, of course

937
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: becomes how much longer can Kyle Shanahan look the other way? Eve?

938
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: And if this is against second team defense, is is

939
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: it becoming a situation where this is a freight train

940
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: in San Francisco? Yeah, it seems that way. I Mean

941
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: what struck me is that, Um, I guess that the

942
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: best word to describe him is he's got a boldness

943
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: about him. He's not acting like a rookie. He's not

944
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, checking down. He's not hesitant. He's attacking this defense.

945
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: And it's a good defense, um, you know, pretty deep defense.

946
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: But he's attacking it deep. He's attacking it with those

947
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: um you know, it's bread and butter. Kyle Shanahan throws

948
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: the deep crosses, he's attacking it deep down the sidelines,

949
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: he's attacking the scene, he's attacking it with his legs.

950
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: And and the big takeaway is the is the juxtaposition.

951
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it really highlights what Jimmy Garoppolo isn't great at.

952
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't throw the ball deep, he doesn't attack the sidelines,

953
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: he's not a runner. So it's this contrast that's been

954
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: he ate it over the first seven days of camp

955
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: that you know, Jimmy Garoppolo is having a fine camp,

956
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: but he's doing Jimmy Garoppolo things. He throws the short pass,

957
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: the intermediate past. Well, he's really good at um hitting

958
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: guys on the run, but he doesn't um, you know,

959
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: threaten the whole field. And so I've got to think

960
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan, who loves aggressive, always attacking offense, sees

961
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: Trey Lance doing this out of the shoot um and

962
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: that was different than what we were thinking was going

963
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: to happen, just given uh lances scant college career. That

964
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he's being so aggressive, so bold, so early,

965
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: I think is what has really surprised a lot of observers,

966
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: including me. Yeah, I want I wanted someone that's seen

967
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: him every day. And I'm especially happy to have you

968
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: because you've been there forever. I think you were there.

969
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Were you there for Alex Smith rookie year? Oh yeah, yeah,

970
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: for sure. You've seen Alex Smith come in, You've seen

971
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick come in. You know, you've seen young quarterback

972
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: I am as fast. I think Lance is the most

973
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: fascinating story right now to enter the season, I've thought

974
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: he would be the Week one starter if he looks great,

975
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: like it's not about Jimmy G. Like, it's not about you, man.

976
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Like if if Lance just shows up and he's electric

977
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: off the bat, that's that's why they drafted him. And

978
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm not buying anything that they're saying about this being

979
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: the best Jimmy g We've ever seen. It's like they

980
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: hadn't even put on pads when John Lynch said that,

981
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: which felt like a giveaway that he's b seen so

982
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: after like seeing you know, Kaepernick and Alex Smith and

983
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: other young quarterbacks come up, Like I guess i'd ask

984
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: you to just compare, compare how Lance is looking, whether

985
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: you think he would be ready to possibly get out

986
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: their Week one Yeah, to me, there's there's really no

987
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: no comparison. He's He's way better than both of those

988
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: guys were at at that stage of their careers. You know,

989
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Alex Smith had the the issue here that the famous

990
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Urban Myer quote was that he would be nonfunctional until

991
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: he learned the whole system. That's sort of how he was. Um,

992
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: he was very uch uh you know, baby horse learning

993
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: to walk for the first time, as as a rookie UM,

994
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: and I love Alex Smith. I came to really admire him.

995
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make fun of him or anything,

996
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: but he was not great his rookie season, certainly early

997
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: in training camp. Um. And then Colin Kaepernick. Um, you know,

998
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: he had an injury going into his first year, UH

999
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: rookie season. My memories of him was, you know, he would,

1000
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, do a five yard dump off to the

1001
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: running back, but it would be a hundred mile an

1002
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: hour fastball. He didn't have a lot of touch early

1003
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: on in his career. So Lan's like I said, I mean,

1004
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: if he's just head and shoulders above where those guys

1005
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: were early on, and like I said, it's it's it's

1006
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Um, He's he's throwing the ball, um,

1007
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, to all aspects of the field, and only

1008
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: recently did they start doing the read options stuff. And

1009
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's great that in that regard to

1010
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's it strikes you he's six ft four pounds.

1011
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: He's not an easy guy to tackle. So even um,

1012
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, once he gets into the secondary, he's he's

1013
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: going to be the guy delivering blows to the defensive backs.

1014
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: He's different than Kyler Murray. He's different than Russell Wilson

1015
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: in that regard. He's a big guy who's gonna put

1016
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: pressure on defenses. I guess a question I'd have for

1017
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: you is, you know you hear Shanahan and Lynch still

1018
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: singing the praises of Jimmy G. There's been a lot

1019
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: of verbal commitment to him starting the season. I mean,

1020
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: if you're Jimmy G and you're watching these Trey Lands

1021
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: practices happening, I don't know what his mental makeup is,

1022
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering, does Jimmy G thinking side Wait a minute,

1023
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: this guy is the better start of than me. But secondly,

1024
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: if they do roll out Jimmy G and just keep

1025
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: that promise per se and he's outplayed in the preseason

1026
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: by trade Lance, does this locker room start to question

1027
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: the decision making. I mean, would there be a potential

1028
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: insurrection if you're not starting the clear cut electric electricity guy,

1029
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: the young guy that you you read some of the quotes.

1030
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: The other players are happening about Trey Lance. They see it,

1031
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: they seem to love, and so it's like, why would

1032
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: anything other than Trey Lance starting occur. Well, I mean,

1033
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: if if that were the case and the forty Niners

1034
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: were losing, I think that that absolutely would happen, that

1035
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: they would they would conclude, why is Jimmy Garoppolo in there?

1036
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it just makes um, Jimmy

1037
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's rope all the all the shorter. Uh. They may

1038
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: indeed go into week one with him as a starter,

1039
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: but you know, he doesn't have very much willow room. Um,

1040
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: as soon as he falters. There's a guy that's that's

1041
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: proven that, you know, like I said, you mean, he

1042
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: really puts pressure on defenses, has so far? Um, you know,

1043
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: it's it's only been seven days. So I don't think

1044
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are in any rush at all to

1045
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: make any big declarations about a rookie. Um. None of

1046
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: the rookies that they drafted are are in starting positions

1047
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: right now. So I think that's just a theme. I

1048
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: think Greg is right. Uh, it's it's a lot of

1049
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: coach speak GM speak. At this point, no one is

1050
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: eager to anoint any of these guys. But to answer

1051
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: the first part of your question, that there was a

1052
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: scenario the first couple of days of camp where Trey Lands.

1053
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: So it was a little bit late on throwing to

1054
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: to Deebo Samuel who had broken, you know, deep down

1055
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: the field, and it wasn't a great throw, but it

1056
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: still was enough to get there, and Samuel h called

1057
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: it and went in for an easy touchdown. The next day, um,

1058
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, Garoppolo was in a very similar situation. He

1059
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: sees Deebo Samuel breaking down field, He hesitates a bit,

1060
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: and I wonder if in his mind he's thinking, Okay,

1061
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: this other quarterback is going for these throws, now I

1062
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: have to do this too. So he rears back and

1063
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: gives it everything he's got and his throw is tenure short,

1064
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: easy interception for Jason Burrett. On the play, didn't everybody

1065
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: knew that it wouldn't get there. I think Jimmy Garoppolo

1066
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: probably knew that his his throw wasn't going to get there,

1067
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: but he sort of forced himself to throwing it, and

1068
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: it was a horrific path, the worst path as a

1069
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: training camp so far. I'm just wondering whether when you're

1070
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: talking about pressure, those sorts of things start to show up.

1071
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: He's he realizes he has to push himself out of

1072
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: his comfort zone. He just may not have the tools

1073
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: to be able to do So, Hey, Matt, what's in

1074
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: a big spot? Not what's some Trey Lance's personality? Like,

1075
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: how how do the other guys respond to him? Um?

1076
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: On the field between practices. I feel like when you're

1077
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: there and you're able to watch practice and and see

1078
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: how the guys sort of react to each other, you

1079
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: can tell a lot more about a player beyond what

1080
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: you know his incompletions or lack thereof. What's what do

1081
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: you kind of what kind of field do you have

1082
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: for him? He hasn't been terrific in front of the

1083
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: media to this point. I mean kind of saying all

1084
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: the all the rookie things. UM. I think that the

1085
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: biggest thing in that regard is that, UM, you know,

1086
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: he did look like a rookie and O t um.

1087
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: You know, you saw him drop back and you on

1088
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: sort of methodically go through his his progressions and he

1089
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: usually checked down or through to the sideline. Um. But

1090
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: when he came back for training camp, it wasn't that anymore.

1091
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he was bold in his decisions.

1092
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: He's attacking, and I think that everybody um concluded his teammates,

1093
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: UM that he put in a lot of work during

1094
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: that that forty days off between O t S and

1095
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: training camp. So I mean there's a respect there obviously

1096
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: that that he put in the work. And he's not

1097
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: not just um, you know, looking at the playbook. He

1098
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: was executing the playbook during his time off. He was

1099
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, he was in l A. He was in Fargo,

1100
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: he was in Minneapolis, and um, he was working out

1101
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: the whole time. And it wasn't just you know, working

1102
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: on his legs or gaining strength a gaining way he was.

1103
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: He was doing the playbook. And that was evident when

1104
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: he came back. So I think there's a lot of

1105
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: respect for that. Feel free to shoot this down as

1106
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: national media. No nothing malarkey. Um, but I'm curious if

1107
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: they put a percentage on Jimmy g not on the

1108
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: forty Niners by Halloween, My Halloween, I think that the

1109
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: trade deadlines. Uh yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean I

1110
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: would put it at, I would put it below. I

1111
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: put it at. And the reason I say that is

1112
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: because the forty Niners have just been torpedoed by QB injuries.

1113
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: Um So, even if you know lance Is is the

1114
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: starter and frankly, I think he will be by that point. Um,

1115
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they want to go, you know, ostensibly

1116
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: into a playoff race with Nate Sudfeld as the as

1117
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: the number two quarterback there, so I think they'd love

1118
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: to have Jimmy Garofolo is the backup in case something

1119
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: does happen. They would have to be blown away by

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00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: an offer, I think, and if if trade answer is

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01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: indeed taking over for Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know if

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: any team is offering a first round pick or even

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01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: a second round pick at that point for jim Garoppolo.

1124
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't think it probably doesn't happen.

1125
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, and there's also the money factor. Any

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01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: team that that takes on Garoppolo is going to have

1127
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: to take on half of that uh what is it,

1128
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: twenty six million dollar shalery at that point. So there

1129
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons why it might not happen.

1130
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: So we'll keep million dollar backup, maybe even in Week one.

1131
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: It's not that crazy. Jake Briskett was a seventeen million dollars.

1132
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it it happens, uh, And I think it

1133
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense for where they're at even if

1134
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: it was week one, that they just keep them, keep

1135
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: him and pay him his money and he stays as

1136
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: the backup. Matt Barrow, Matt Barrows, I should say cover

1137
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: covers the forty niners for the athletic reading stuff. Follow

1138
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Matt Barrows b A R r Ows. Matt,

1139
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. And I really sensed in

1140
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: that your most recent write up it's almost a my

1141
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: home zeen. It reminds me of how like Chiefs writers

1142
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: were writing about my homes early now not saying that

1143
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: that's what this guy's gonna be, but it sounds like

1144
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: an exciting time to be on the beat, and we

1145
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: look forward to reading more about it as things go along.

1146
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Thank you by that. There

1147
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: he goes. It's good, that's good. It's perfect for him

1148
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: to come on just as Connie's computer was crashing, like

1149
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: the listeners will never know like a future it's just

1150
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: like me today. All right. Back to the division power rankings.

1151
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: The data not dad any longer because Matt was right,

1152
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: data is a little more hardcore. So we had a

1153
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: f C South fifty seven and a half NFC North

1154
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: sixty three point to five NFC E sixty four point

1155
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: one to five NFC South right in the middle at

1156
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: seventy one. Now the top half will start number four,

1157
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the A F C West, all right, and the Chiefs.

1158
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: As I said, ninety two out of one hundred, we

1159
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: all love the Chiefs. Um. They are right behind the

1160
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Bucks as our number two team in this exercise. A

1161
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: distance second. I thought maybe they'd be a little bit higher,

1162
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: But we have the Chargers at seventy three, then the

1163
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Broncos at sixty three and a half. Again, they're hamstrung

1164
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: by that QB situation, but we all seem to like

1165
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: them a lot um otherwise. But also the QB situation,

1166
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: and this is the magic of the overly esoteric division

1167
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: power rankings. That QB situation affects the June's qua of

1168
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: a team and the office. It's all connected. It's the

1169
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: most important position. And even though QB is only one

1170
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: category out of five, it bleeds into the others. Because see,

1171
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: it's a perfect thing. I've been on something. Everybody the data,

1172
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't lie anyway. Charger seventy three, Bronco sixty three

1173
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: and a half, RATEAR sixty one and a half. Average

1174
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: score seventy two and a half, just above the nfc

1175
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: S and just below the team will talk about next

1176
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: big picture thoughts. This is to me the Bills are

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01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: the heaviest favorite. When I think about who's the division favorites.

1178
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are right there too, and this data backs

1179
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: that up. Wow, I think the I think the Bucks

1180
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: are the biggest favorite, but I see where you're at,

1181
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: where it'd be shocking if the Chiefs didn't win the

1182
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: division yet. This division is interesting. I'm glad I got

1183
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: in the top half because it feels like the other three,

1184
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: any one of them could make the playoffs, and any

1185
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: any one of them should be pretty entertaining to watch

1186
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: or at least has things to watch. I think the

1187
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: Broncos have like a legit chance to make the playoffs

1188
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm sure I think fans of all

1189
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: three of these teams are going into the season thinking

1190
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: that way. Obviously they'll they'll someone's gonna be overly optimistic.

1191
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: Someone has got to be lower on the Chargers than

1192
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: I am, because the way that I did this, I

1193
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: believe I have them as a locked in playoff team.

1194
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: I like them a lot um. I gave their new

1195
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: coaching situation. I think I don't do this two point

1196
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: five thing that you do, Greg. I I kind of

1197
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: go three unless I really like the idea of one.

1198
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: But I think Brandon Staley is going to be a

1199
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: big help because think coaching issues were a big problem

1200
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: for the Chargers for like the entire time we've worked

1201
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: at NFL dot Com. So I think it's arrow up

1202
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: and I look at Justin Herbert and say, well, the

1203
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: offensive line has improved. Why is why would this not

1204
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: be a playoff team? To me? Was down on them.

1205
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: I was pretty high on them too. Mark. I don't

1206
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: think Greg, you had him at seventeen. I had him

1207
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: at sixteen and a half. Connie had them at nineteen

1208
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: and a half, and Mark you had them at I

1209
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: don't know that you might that there was there an

1210
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: addition problem here. Rule it out, will rule it out.

1211
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now you're probably right, but let's know,

1212
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: because yeah, that's uh, I'll double check that. You guys

1213
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: keep talking. I know. I think I think I might

1214
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: have just made a mistake glancing through it. I think

1215
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: they have legitimate roster issues on defense. Other than Joey Both,

1216
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: there's not a lot there in the front seven. You're

1217
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: really county on Brandon Staley to sprinkle you know, his

1218
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: magic dust on a roster. I don't think necessarily looks

1219
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: much better. You get there when James back healthy. Obviously

1220
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: that that's huge, but you I think the defensive line

1221
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: and the rest of the past rush other than Bosa

1222
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: and the linebacker spots are pretty big question marks. And

1223
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: everyone assumes the offensive line is way better. The names

1224
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: are so much better. It looks better on paper, but man,

1225
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: they're cursed on the offensive line, and it's the hardest

1226
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: group to predict in football, Like good groups can turn

1227
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: bad without really a lot of reasons. So I'm not

1228
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: just assuming that these names like Matt Feeler comes in

1229
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: and he just solves everything. Brian Bulaga is suddenly healthy

1230
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: of first round rookie tackle, you know, Slater is suddenly great. No,

1231
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: like that's all hopeful stuff, But it could be a

1232
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: bad offensive line. I gave Herbert a five, though I

1233
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: thought or a four and a half, and so to me,

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: it's it's Herbert that is the reason for optim to

1235
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: give him this team. Yeah, wow, I don't know. I

1236
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: like the fact that they brought in Corey Lindsley. That's

1237
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: definitely going to help the offensive line. You have a

1238
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: healthy Austin Ekeler to this year. I don't like that

1239
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: they don't have Hunter Henry there anymore, but I think

1240
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert showed so much last year, and that

1241
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: was his rookies in. I mean, with Brandon Staley, I

1242
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know what that scheme is going to look like.

1243
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much different it'll look um from

1244
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: last season. But Justin Herbert, he's been so much fun

1245
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: to watch. I feel like he's only going to get better.

1246
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: I know people are down on Joe Lombardi, but it

1247
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: sounds like they're using a lot of Saints. There's definitely

1248
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: some Shanahan Tree stuff in there, and I think that

1249
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: they've spent the off season saying, look at we're gonna

1250
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: try to make this work for Justin Herbert, not shove

1251
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: him into something else. But Greg I the one thing

1252
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't agree with with that. Yes, the line has

1253
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: been cursed, but that doesn't predict what's going to happen

1254
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: down the road. I mean, at least they tried to

1255
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: patch that up. They did a great job, but I'm

1256
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: not assuming they're better than average, just because they signed

1257
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys if they were if they were average,

1258
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: if they were average, that would be better than last year.

1259
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: I think they can get to that point. There's a

1260
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of projecting with the Broncos too. I

1261
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: know they have a nice defensive roster, but they're one

1262
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: of one of just a few teams in the league

1263
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: with a raging question market at quarterback. And those are

1264
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: the teams that I am less willing to give any

1265
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: rope to, no matter who's around that position. The data,

1266
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: by the way, does check out the Charges. We have

1267
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: them at seven at seventy three average, and that is

1268
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: again once you figured out it's kind of a playoff

1269
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: bubble team, which makes sense. Let's come down about the Charges.

1270
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: This is not the super Bowl team. Maybe they are,

1271
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: but they feel like that's where they should be. I

1272
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: am a little surprised. I know everyone and their brothers

1273
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: down on the Raiders, but that that's a you put

1274
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: them at sixty one and a half, that's you're talking

1275
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: about a double digit lost team. UM. I wonder if

1276
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of piling on with the Raiders

1277
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: that's filtering through in this exercise. Well, what category, because

1278
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: I think you could look a lot of these teams

1279
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: that have show promise, one of their categories gets a

1280
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: five or a four point five from almost everyone. Tell

1281
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: me what category it is on the last Las Vegas rates, Yeah, exactly,

1282
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: they don't. Where did they get better other than defensive coaching,

1283
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: Like I think I think they're hoping they're coaching is better,

1284
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: but it's not like Gus Bradley has been dialing up

1285
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, great defenses lately, by

1286
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: the way, and they're deeper on defense, but I think

1287
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: you look at the losses they had on offense, they're

1288
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: one of those teams that it's really hard to make

1289
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: a case that they got better when you when you

1290
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: at least are putting on your rosie, you know, optimist hat.

1291
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: Almost every other team can do that, and the Raiders can't.

1292
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: A lot of four is on offense, which I think

1293
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: makes especially if Josh Jacobs bounces back. Um and Derek

1294
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: Carr really did take a step up I thought last year,

1295
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: and the tight end and maybe Henry Ruggs makes leap.

1296
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: There's there's a you could you don't have to squint

1297
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: to see the Raiders as a very good offense. The

1298
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: rest of it is pretty much a crapshoot to me.

1299
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: Um all right, let's now move into the top three,

1300
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: just edging the a f C West with a average

1301
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: score seventy three point three seven five is the A

1302
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: f C East. How about that? About the a f

1303
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: C East? I love it. It is more interesting than

1304
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: it's been time that and the breakdown is as follows.

1305
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: The favorite and a significant significant favorite of course, the

1306
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, who just missed that ninety tier. They are

1307
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: eighty nine and a half points out of one, so

1308
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: they're right there knocking on the door as a Super

1309
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. That checks out uh, second place the Patriots

1310
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: seventy three and a half. So there you go there,

1311
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: right on that like borderline if you're if you're in

1312
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: that seventy seventy four range, we kind of see you

1313
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: as a playoff bubble team. Uh. Just behind them is

1314
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at seventy and a half, so they're a

1315
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,919
Speaker 1: little bit more of a uphill climb to get a plasspot,

1316
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: but they're right there knocking on the door. And then

1317
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: the Jets at sixty um, which is kind of right

1318
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: at the breaking point. Between bad teams and mediocre teams,

1319
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: which I can kind of see that's where they're going.

1320
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: So I could think kind of nailed this division. What

1321
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,440
Speaker 1: do you guys think? I think the Dolphins are really intriguing,

1322
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: Like that's the that's the team that I feel. It

1323
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: could go either way, like they could either maybe not

1324
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: make the jump that some people think they will, or

1325
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: they will improve because of the guys that they brought

1326
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: in Jalen Waddle with two I mean, they really worked

1327
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: hard to surround to uh this offseason. And I know

1328
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before on this podcast about how

1329
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: does the two offensive coordinator thing work in Miami. Um,

1330
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't always work out. Sort of maybe having two

1331
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: worked out because now you have a backup when if

1332
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: one gets That's a perfect point. Actually I love that,

1333
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: But I wonder about the Xavien Howard situation to how

1334
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: that's going to play out. I mean, I don't think

1335
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: it would be smart for them to trade him, but

1336
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: he's obviously not happy. Sounds like it's probably getting settled.

1337
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: I've been surprised that the team is so optimistic and

1338
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: that he actually did go on the practice field and

1339
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. Uh. I think it was a

1340
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: minor injury. But he's been there kind of like doing

1341
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: the Jamal Adams thing where he's on the field and helping,

1342
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: and so it doesn't I don't think there's a lot

1343
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: of bad blood. I think they're going to give him

1344
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: a cosmetic adjustment to his contracts, similar to Rogers, where

1345
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: they maybe knock off one of his years, just like

1346
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: you're too even to get him closer to free agency,

1347
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: but not really do much else and that and that solves.

1348
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They're fascinating because I think they've been

1349
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: greater than the some of their parts. I think they're

1350
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I think the Patriots defense is fascinating

1351
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: this year. They added so much in Belichick coming off

1352
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: that year, like they they're they're upside on defense, is

1353
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: like a top three defense, but they stunk last year

1354
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: on defense. And the Jets are more watchable and more

1355
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: interesting to me than they've been in a long time.

1356
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: And you've got a superpower team in the Bills. The

1357
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,919
Speaker 1: af C East has been so boring as a division,

1358
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: I would say for the most part, for like fifteen years.

1359
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: I think like these games are gonna be a lot

1360
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: more watchable. I'm glad. I'm glad it's in the top.

1361
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: I think you have stability where it used to be

1362
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: obviously the Patriots, and it turns to ill scenario for

1363
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: the other three teams. In terms of coaches, GMS, just

1364
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: NonStop transition. I think you look at Sean McDermott and say,

1365
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: this is a potentially a top five coach, if not better.

1366
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean he he is. He's brought incredible growth to

1367
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: the Bills. They've gotten so much better so quickly. The

1368
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: Jets have stability. I really look at what they're doing,

1369
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: and I believe in the plan. And if Zach Wilson

1370
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: works out that whole story in that narrative changes drastically

1371
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: and the Patriots angrily reloaded. And Bill Belichick, I don't

1372
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: care what anyone says, is furious behind the scenes. He

1373
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: is utterly furious. And what happened last season, So the

1374
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: division is going to be a dog fight. Mark back

1375
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: on the Belichick train. If he ever was off, he

1376
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: never left off. Um. It's interesting. On the note to

1377
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: inside the data numbers the way to data one, only

1378
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: one of us, only one of us, did not get

1379
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Of five out of five who do you

1380
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: think it was? Greg so great? It's such a Greg

1381
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: moved really check half a point. Well, I didn't give

1382
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: it almost any fives to any teams in anything. Yeah,

1383
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: I guess so, But that's fair. But he's coming off,

1384
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, one of the worst coaching jobs he's ever done.

1385
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: I think, I know, you can say you make the

1386
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: argument that they had the talent that they had, and

1387
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: so it's hard to you know, divorced personnel from his coaching,

1388
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: but his defense collapsed, and I think, like and what

1389
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: they were gonna plan to do on offense. It wasn't

1390
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: a one season coaching career, and they had last year

1391
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: like Mahomes got Mahomes got a five and that was

1392
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: about it of the mas of coaches. I mean, I

1393
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: feel like he kind of a right, okay, the greatest

1394
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: coach in NFL history of four point five. They also

1395
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: were right at the beginning, you know, I didn't know

1396
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: how hard the grading was going to be. And then

1397
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: the other I also have to pick up my kids

1398
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: from camp right now. I know I'm part of the

1399
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: reason from honking too much, but I gotta miss the

1400
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: top two divisions right now. I have to pick up

1401
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: the kids are gonna be waiting that camp. They're like,

1402
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: where is They'll be fine? Um. The other data here

1403
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: two and a half, two and a half, two and

1404
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: a half for the quarterback situation in Miami, except for

1405
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: Mark you had him at three. Alright, just right there

1406
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: are a classic two and a half quarterback situation number two.

1407
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: I really, I really am leaving. I love you all.

1408
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: What is that you can't leave to his children? Have

1409
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: to get them there? Usually this is just leave the show.

1410
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean I'm also out in the city. You know,

1411
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be like, like, if you can. The

1412
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: explanation is part of the problem. Here, we get it.

1413
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: You go do it, can't go. There needs to be

1414
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: a penalty for this that he loves. You just left

1415
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: the screen up. It's like an empty chair. That's such

1416
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 1: a bad job. Some background noises. You gotta get somebody.

1417
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: You gotta get somebody else to pick up the kids.

1418
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: You can't just leave the show. Yeah, I mean, he

1419
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: should have just told us. He should have been way

1420
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: upfront with us about this. Look at this. They're doing

1421
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: the odd Pers today, Today's the odd Per Show. Did

1422
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: it Dan? It is a bit treason, is I I

1423
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Well, I can't say trees this

1424
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: because it's he's going to get his kids, But like,

1425
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: where where are we Can we get an old pair

1426
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: to pick up the kids? Can we we have an

1427
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: all a parent in the house. Can we figure out something?

1428
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, Greg's like, rich, now, can you have

1429
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: a house manager or something? Don't don't have some type

1430
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: of like boy that works there. Greg just actually wants

1431
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: to go take a nap. That's what's happening. I cannot

1432
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: believe he left, Like his audio recording is probably still

1433
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: going right now. Like it's just it's just empty. I'm

1434
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,879
Speaker 1: actually supposed to be interviewing um Hall of Fame inductee.

1435
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't care anybody where they got to be. We're

1436
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. Everybody's like, hey, we gotta go. Everybody's

1437
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: giving me hard outs. I don't give anybody's heart outs.

1438
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: Guess what, I'm still here. How is Colleen not the

1439
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: one that at some point said I'm out of this

1440
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: this scenario podcasting? It's me. Oh, you know, at the

1441
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: top of the show, I'm trying to move things along,

1442
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: and then we have like a fifteen minute like conversation

1443
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: about life and it's like that was great. I love

1444
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: talking about it. But did Greg not realize that he

1445
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: was on a clock himself at that point? No, he

1446
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: did not. I can tell you affirmatively he did not. Well,

1447
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: we will pick up this conversation with Greg when he

1448
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: returns to the show at some point I assume Monday.

1449
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, it depends what the parental um

1450
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: you know, responsibilities are that day. Apparently Greg did not

1451
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: did mention multiple times that he does not wear the

1452
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: ends in his house. I mean, I'm not saying that

1453
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: he said that to us on a show, so you know,

1454
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: deduct as you will wait wait that I can't wait

1455
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: to pull a Greg on inside training camp. Like on Friday.

1456
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be like, yeah, I gotta I have

1457
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: something to be at now, so I'm gonna be leaving

1458
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: and then just get up and walk away. Do you

1459
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: think if he's like sitting, if he's sitting in for

1460
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: nap Earlson on Good Morning Football, do you think he

1461
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: just walks away in the middle of the show. You

1462
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: just don't know. It's it's a respect thing. At this point,

1463
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: I think you need to have a conversation with him.

1464
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: This is this. Let me just remove this. Here we go, Mark,

1465
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: This is a hey, let's go get dinner and have

1466
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: a conversation. I think it is. And those are always um.

1467
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: There's sort of a sobriety aspect of that. I'm not

1468
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: saying that we're not drinking beer. But it's a somber conversation.

1469
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: We've had it for Sometimes we have to have those

1470
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: break bread conversations. This is a break bread conversation because

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: he just broke my heart. I feel like he broke

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01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: up with us. He chose his kids. It's over us,

1473
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: and that's something that needs to be addressed. He's got

1474
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: to have like a boy that fans him at the

1475
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: house somewhere, that has a driver's license or at least

1476
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: can drive and make a couple of right turns. Right.

1477
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: They weren't expensive mhm boy little boys? No, I mean

1478
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: it's like I can think you could hire a boy

1479
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: probably doesn't charge that much. I'm picturing the little man

1480
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: and Boogie Knights, who's throwing the those little sound things

1481
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: the Snappers assume the does Nick podcast allows him to

1482
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: have a Snapper boy. I think there was some there

1483
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: was other elements to the relationship with Snapper boy in

1484
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: that film. But um, I hear I hear you. What

1485
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: if you found out that Greg was going to do

1486
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: the podcast with gentle Nick right now and he left

1487
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: this podcast to go do that one. No, I'm still here.

1488
01:18:54,520 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm still here. Nothing would surprise me. What do you

1489
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: do that to jes Nick? I don't know. That's that's

1490
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: the part of the conversation when you break bread with

1491
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: the little dark prinsive comedy. What do you do that

1492
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: to jell Nick? All right, let's try to let's pull

1493
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: things together, let's be professionals. Number two on the overly

1494
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: esoteric Division power rankings is the a f C North

1495
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: How about that marks number two. Some people would have

1496
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: said number one, but it's not how it worked out. Um,

1497
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: according to our data, and it breaks down as follows.

1498
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: The favorite in the division just slightly, the Baltimore Ravens

1499
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: eighty four and a half out of one. That makes sense.

1500
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,879
Speaker 1: Number two, the Cleveland Browns two. Number three. The Pittsburgh

1501
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: steel Or seventy seven and a half. So, as we've

1502
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: talked about that seventy to seventy five is a bubble team.

1503
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: We see the Steelers out of that bubble as a

1504
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: group we kind of see them more as a team

1505
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: that is in the in the dance, most likely anything

1506
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: plus seventy five, and then the Bengals rounding it out

1507
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: and pulling down the average at fifty seven and a half.

1508
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: If the Bengals had a little more juice to them. Um,

1509
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: this is the number one team in our power rankings,

1510
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: a number one division our power rankings. That's not how

1511
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: it worked out, Mark, the Browns would have been number one.

1512
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: But I think you were a little harsh on them

1513
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: grading wise. Uh, to be totally honest with you, UM,

1514
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: and I saw some of your scores were a little

1515
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: lower than I expected for your favorite football team. I

1516
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: was trying to, um, look at this division from a

1517
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: couple of different angles, and yes, I think the Browns

1518
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: you could argue, have the most balanced and powerful looking

1519
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: roster on paper. I think they do. Um. There are

1520
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: questions about Baker Mayfield that most people have. I have

1521
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: probably fewer of those questions than others. I think if

1522
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: he can just do what he did last year, there

1523
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: are a playoff team. But for me, and you know,

1524
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: maybe this was where a little bit of emotion came in.

1525
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: But just because of evidence in what I've seen. I

1526
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: want to see the Cleveland Browns as an organization say

1527
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: say to everyone, we can do this two years in

1528
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: a row where I have no questions about out the

1529
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: Ravens repeating their success and frankly, like I do think

1530
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: over the course of the offseason the Steelers they have

1531
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: some holes, but they have addressed certain concerns, and just

1532
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: as we get closer and closer to the year, I

1533
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of just trust them to win eleven games. And

1534
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: so I had the Browns just a not a nudge

1535
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: below Pittsburgh based on sort of organizational history maybe as

1536
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: much as anything else. Maybe that was a little off base,

1537
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: but I don't have all three of them is playoff

1538
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: type teams. We both had Baker at three and a half.

1539
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: I think, like Kirk Cousins, that's a perfect spot for

1540
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in one. And I think he has a

1541
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: ceiling personally of a four quarterback and a floor of

1542
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: a three quarterback, I think. And that's why if you're

1543
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: the Browns, you can understand why, UM, they're like, is

1544
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: that a guy to do a long term deal with? Um,

1545
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: He's maybe not going to be a superstar, but he's

1546
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: shown us He's demonstrated that he is a sturdy guy

1547
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: that can run an offense and can get hot, Like,

1548
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: is that is that enough of UM skill set to

1549
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: do long term business with I think they will eventually.

1550
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: I think that I was a four with Baker. I

1551
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: think I gave him a little bit more of an

1552
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 1: edge because I almost feel like people are two down

1553
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: on him and they don't give him enough credit UM

1554
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: for last season. But the biggest thing for me, uh

1555
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: is the Steelers. I have a lot of questions about

1556
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: that offensive line there there it's basically completely new UM

1557
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: and then they're trying to revamp and revitalize a run

1558
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: game there. So Nagie Harris, he's great, but it's really

1559
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: going to fall back on the offensive line, like how

1560
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: much how much will they be able to protect Ben

1561
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: and what kind of run blocking will they be able

1562
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: to do for Nagi Connie, you had the Joe Burrow

1563
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: at four and a half out of five, you are

1564
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: very high. I love Joe Burrow. I thought it was

1565
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: really good before he got hurt and I got hurt.

1566
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: I hate how training camp beat reporting, and it's not

1567
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: on the Beat reporters because they're doing their job, but

1568
01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: the way the football agnes, and they takes the reporting

1569
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: and then it spends it into this is the way

1570
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: things are now, and that's what's gonna happen with this

1571
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow report that's out there today that he's been

1572
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: really had a tough training camp so far. He's missing

1573
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: a lot of passes. He doesn't look nearly the same

1574
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: as he did last summer. Mark, Is that concerned you

1575
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot? Or for for me? I I you gotta

1576
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: reconstructed knee surgery, no joke. He's trying to get his

1577
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: feet wet. I'm giving him a little bit more of

1578
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: a pass. But I can see why some people are

1579
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: gonna run with this. I think you can. You can

1580
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: say though that there is you know, there are quarterbacks

1581
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: in time, back in time where coming off of knee surgery,

1582
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: they just weren't the same type of person now Burrow.

1583
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean he does it all, um, but he's not

1584
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: like a scrambling quarterback. First. You know that it's a

1585
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: little bit different than when r G three came back

1586
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: from a major knee operation. You know, Burrow Burrows deep

1587
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: ball is something people have concerns with. Um. My thing

1588
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: with them is like, is this organization, where if he

1589
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: were on a different team, different organization, would they manage

1590
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: this the same way would would would he be an

1591
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: environ himant to put some better place for success. I

1592
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: always have issues with the Bengals on that front, um,

1593
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: But Burrow the player, I'm with Colleen that, like a

1594
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: month ago, I absolutely thought the world of him. And

1595
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see if there's some sort of tentative

1596
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: nature to his play. I mean, one week of bad

1597
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: camp practices does not shake my opinion to the core though,

1598
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: mm hmm. But also, yeah, all right, let's let's no, no, no,

1599
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Well, I was gonna say,

1600
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: you have your quarterback who had such a great season

1601
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: before he was hurt, and he has been coming off

1602
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: the knee injury, and the fact that the organization didn't

1603
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: take Pinasol or didn't take someone for that offensive line

1604
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: I think is troubling because if he gets hit again,

1605
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 1: you don't know where he is. I'm sure, I'm sure

1606
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be okay, But I just if it

1607
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: was me, I would have taken a player to protect

1608
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: my franchise quarterback. Um, not someone that another guy that

1609
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: he could throw to. Obviously, It's nice that they have

1610
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: the reunion, but I just think it's really important to

1611
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: protect your guy. And you're you're, you're, you're, you're preaching

1612
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: to the choir. Is it's singing to the choir. Now

1613
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: you're preaching to the choir. I've been the choir. Would Yeah,

1614
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why they didn't do it,

1615
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: but that's it is what it is. You hope the

1616
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: offensive line Riley Reef and there are some other pieces

1617
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: there that are trending upward that offensive line will be better.

1618
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: But I do hate because I think we're all really

1619
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: excited about Burrow entering last year and he really flashed

1620
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: in moments uh and during an imperfect rookie season. I

1621
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: just hate that now that the conversation around him is

1622
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: is he gonna be okay? Is physically is he the

1623
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: same guy? You just it's just a kind of a

1624
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: bummer for year two of his career. You can answer

1625
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: those questions real fast, he can, and you just hope

1626
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: it's not an RG three situation where he ends up

1627
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: getting hurt in a way where he was kind of

1628
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: hung out to drive by his team on a certain level,

1629
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: and then he's never the same guy physically again. By

1630
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: the way, RG three retired from the NFL now works

1631
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: for ESPN. How about that? Um? All right, finally, according

1632
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: to our tabulations, and this includes Greg's data even though

1633
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: he's no longer part of the conversation. Let's check in, Ricky.

1634
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: This is for the YouTube audience. Yep, chairs still empty.

1635
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have a sit down. We have

1636
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: to break bread mark. Yeah, it's gonna be you know.

1637
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: We we thought we got through some of this, um,

1638
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 1: Apparently not. The NFC West is the best football division

1639
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,919
Speaker 1: according to me around the NFL podcast over the esoteric

1640
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: division power rankings, and uh, it makes sense to me

1641
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: and it very interesting. So we have the Rams as

1642
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: the ever so slight favorite one and a half out

1643
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: of one hundred average grade. Uh, the Seahawks at one

1644
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: right behind him, and then not far behind the Rams

1645
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks, the Niners at seventy seven and a half,

1646
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: and damn. After talking to Matt Barrows, I'm like, man, yea,

1647
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: if this Trey Lance dude is but he looks like

1648
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: he is in camps so far, you might have to

1649
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: bump this team up seven or eight points. But for

1650
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: now we can only go off a completely inexperienced rookie

1651
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: quarterback and Jimmy Jimmy g in the driver's seat to

1652
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: be the starter. Seventy seven and a half. So we have,

1653
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: based on our data here we have three teams that

1654
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: should be comfortably playoff teams if things play out how

1655
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: they want them to. And then the Cardinals out of

1656
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 1: the mix, a victim of a lot of things, including

1657
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: a very tough division. Sixty seven and a half. Nothing

1658
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: to be ashamed of sixty seven and a half, but

1659
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: that is not a playoff team, and I don't know

1660
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: if that would be enough to keep Cliff Kingsbury employed

1661
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: if they end up going let's say seven and ten. Well,

1662
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: they had such a disappointing end to last season. They're

1663
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: the start though, was really promising, and then once Kyler

1664
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: heard his shoulder, everything sort of went downhill and he

1665
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do the same things that he could

1666
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: do before. But I thought that when you watch them

1667
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, they had so much momentum,

1668
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit higher on them. I think

1669
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: that this is the toughest division, no like, no doubt

1670
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: about it in football, But I think the Cardinals could

1671
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: also be very much in the mix. Yeah, I don't.

1672
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that there. It's not so much like

1673
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm down on the Cardinals. I just think that to

1674
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,520
Speaker 1: be in that environment in that division is gonna be rough. Um.

1675
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers a year ago, we're

1676
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: a team that could get picked off, you know, here

1677
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and there because of their injuries situation. I think their quarterback,

1678
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: tight end, running back in two starting whiteouts played together

1679
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: for two games the Tops, and now the environment's totally changed.

1680
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if trade Lance, to your point is what

1681
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,879
Speaker 1: we're hearing, um, that they are the odds on favorites.

1682
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: To me in this division, I just want to see

1683
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: it first. The Rams just feel really solid. I mean

1684
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: I give their quarterback of high score, their coach, their defense,

1685
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,839
Speaker 1: their offense, their juice. They're coming to the new stadium.

1686
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: We know that Colleen's a big fan of that place.

1687
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like here. And I mean

1688
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I think it's there's they are the better division than

1689
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: the a f C. North. I think we got that

1690
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: right as a group now that we have you know,

1691
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: I was the it is a quad juice factor of

1692
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: the Seahawks I had it down at three because there

1693
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: is some like bubbling tensions UM in Seattle right now.

1694
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: But you know I had I had Russell Wilson at

1695
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: four and a half as a quarterback. I think it

1696
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: was mostly five's uh for UM Russell Wilson's you have

1697
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: that quarterback, you have the coaching staff in place, you

1698
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: have a defense that that that can get the job

1699
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: done on offense with a high ceiling. Yeah, the Seahawks,

1700
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: it's we've talked about it, to make or break a

1701
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: year for them, Um, and then the other team in

1702
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: the mix here of the Rams. Listen, Mark, you've been

1703
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: up and down on the Rams at times, but when

1704
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: you just kind of go through it all, Oh look,

1705
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: who's bad? Oh my god? Greg? What look you guys

1706
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: are you know? Did you already pick up your kids?

1707
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: Still chatting? Yeah, they're pretty clear. You know, the camp

1708
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: is very close. We're very determined across the ninety minutes

1709
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: still doing the podcast should be You should know Greg

1710
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: that we spent ten minutes discussing your exit before we

1711
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: got back into the chat, So that might explain where

1712
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: we're still doing this. But we are at the NFC

1713
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: West seventy six point eight seven five, the number one

1714
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:12,879
Speaker 1: team on the Overly Division Power Rankings Overly Elongated Division

1715
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Power Ranking. We have a dinner day ahead, Gregg, just

1716
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 1: to let you know, Um, how does this change things now?

1717
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: Since Greg came back onto the show after he got

1718
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: his kids. What you said it was a bad job

1719
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: by me or whatever, Well, listen, we don't We're gonna

1720
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: be breaking bread to really have the conversation. I don't

1721
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: think it's for the show. But no, we wondered if

1722
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: you were sitting in for night on g NFB, or

1723
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: if Tony gesl Nick was next to you with a microphone.

1724
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Is Gregg walking off with These are questions that are

1725
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: we're just kind of thrown out there with no real answers. Unfortunately,

1726
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: you guys are you know this camp schedule has been

1727
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: going on for a while. It's why we were We've

1728
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: been taping a little earlier. Today just went a little long,

1729
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, but large partly because of me. So I'll

1730
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: take that responsibility. But I can't just can't just let

1731
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: them sit there in the parking lot at Memorial Park

1732
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: over there, and can you can you um confirm or

1733
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: deny that you have a what did we call a

1734
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: snapper boy. Well, it's sort of like a house boy. Um,

1735
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: like a young young man, not even a man, not

1736
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 1: even a young man, a boy helping you out with

1737
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: various boy, someone who could drive maybe sixteen. We don't

1738
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: have any help. Please if if you, if you are

1739
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: a good babysitter something. We haven't had a babysitter since

1740
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, this pandemic began here. Let's let's do something. Hm, alright,

1741
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: so let's wrap it up, Greg, do you have a

1742
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: f C North came in at second seventy three seven five,

1743
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 1: just ahead of the NFC West, and the way that

1744
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: our numbers broke down, we like, we like playoff team,

1745
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,480
Speaker 1: three playoff teams coming out of here and then comfortably

1746
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: and with you know, the Trey Lance who knows what

1747
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: happens if he takes off, because we have the Niners

1748
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: ranked third in the division, but they could easily vault

1749
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: the Rams and Seahawks, Cardinals a little behind the pack. Um,

1750
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: do you have anything to add the numbers? Got it right?

1751
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 1: What other what other division has three Super Bowl contenders? None? Sorry,

1752
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: unless you want to throw the Steelers in there, as

1753
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: I and they squinted hard enough, but I think I

1754
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks playing in the super Bowl is something

1755
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: that could happen. They is playing the super Bowl, I

1756
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: believe is something that could happen. And the Rams as well.

1757
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: And the Cardinals aren't. We don't think the Cardinals are

1758
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: a dog team. There's really bad teams that are picked

1759
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: to be fourth place. The Cardinals are not. The Cardinals

1760
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 1: have a ceiling where I could see them winning ten games,

1761
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: so that this is a really really good division. They

1762
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: deserved it. It would have been troubling if they didn't

1763
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: finish first, but they have. And that is let's close

1764
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: the book or close the Excel spreadsheet. I thought it

1765
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: went well, maybe a little long, but I think we

1766
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: really learned some things and it was a good com in.

1767
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I liked it. It It kind of worked as an overarching

1768
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: season preview, you know a little bit, which we haven't done.

1769
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: So that's that's good. And now maybe we don't have

1770
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: to do we have next week off. All right, Connie,

1771
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you you said it all. I sure did. I really

1772
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: did today. This is work. I gave you. I gave

1773
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: you some poop early and the reason is because I

1774
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: know that you're a great sport and thank you. Are

1775
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: you trying to just like avoid an angry text from me,

1776
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: like we gotta break bread. We have to sit down

1777
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: and break bread. Yeah, we're gonna have to go out

1778
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: to dinner. And then I am looking up for the

1779
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,919
Speaker 1: longest show in history with the most amount of homework.

1780
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: I know I'm supposed to go get like hand X rays,

1781
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: but I think I might just take a nap instead

1782
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and hope for the best. And I look forward. I

1783
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: look forward to Hollywood Park, Colleen. I just want to

1784
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: let you know I haven't been there yet, but I'm

1785
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 1: really excited to see the stadium. Well you should be.

1786
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: It's the future. I wish that was your delivery. All right.

1787
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday tomorrow on NFL Network, So

1788
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: check that out, check your local listings, DVR at find

1789
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: a way to watch it Saturday morning. I think Saturday. Yes,

1790
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: you can do that with us too, if you'd like, Colleen,

1791
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: if you'd like to do Oh my god, that's so

1792
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: nice of you guys. But I'll be in Atlanta for

1793
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Inside Training Camp Live. Yeah, what's up next? So you

1794
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: got Atlanta? Then where are you going after that? So

1795
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I have Atlanta on Saturday and then I'm in Tennessee

1796
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: on Monday and Indianapolis on Wednesday. M you're squeezing your

1797
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: eyes so hard thinking there. I'm sorry, I'm challenging you

1798
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: so hard to use the brain today it's broken. Well,

1799
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: safe travels, Connie. You're doing awesome work. You are a

1800
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: star in the network and we're happy to have you

1801
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: on the show. Yes, NFL Network Show this weekend, and

1802
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: then we're back Monday with another edition of the Around

1803
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Thank you everybody for listening until Monday.

1804
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll well see that call