1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hi, folks. From October four, two thousand twelve. My Saturday 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: select pick is how fire works. Yeah, you can light 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: a match, Sure, you can use a magnifying glass, and 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: you might be able to rub two sticks together or 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: use a flint in stone. But that is all just 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: starting a fire. How fire actually works is much more 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: complicated and very very cool. So give it a listen. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Why don't you welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me. It's 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: always as Charles w. Chuckle Bryant said, and uh, this 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: is stuff you should know, Josh. We let me stand 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: next to your fire. Sure, okay, come come over here 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: right now? Okay, sorry, Well it's nice and warm over here, 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: isn't it. I'm feverish. It's smoky, and I feel like 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: there's chemical reactions taking place before my very eyes. There are. 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: That's why there's fire. If fire is nothing if not 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: a chemical reaction. Yeah, I got so. Okay. Have you 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: heard of the Wine Cooff Hotel? Yeah? But born and 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: raised here? Ye? Uh, the Allis Hotel? Was that the 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: hotel fire? Yeah? Yeah, you know that it's now the 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Ellis Hotel. It's at the corner of Peach Tree and Ellis. 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Nice referbish hotel. Back in it was called the Wine 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: Coff Hotel and it was the site of the most 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: disastrous casualty wise hotel fire in US history. In December 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: nineteen people died right right here in Atlanta, very said 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: forty four. Just under forty four years later, in Las Vegas, Nevada, 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: the MGM Grand had a hotel fire. People died. Do 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: you remember the MGM fire GM Grand fire? It was 30 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: a big deal, not at all, you you. I'm surprised 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: because I kind of remember, like seeing footage of that. 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: When was this? Oh no, I don't remember. So both 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: of these fires and all the loss of life associated 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: with them were the direct result of hubris towards fire. 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: The Wine Cough their fire exits one stairwell for the 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: whole building. I think it was like nineteen stories or 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: something like that. Um, the MGM Grand, they they didn't 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: put up like sixty dollars for a fire detection system 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: in this one part of the hotel that would have 40 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: saved everyone's lives. A part hubrist, part of financial shenanigans, right, 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: But isn't that kind of based on Hubris. My point 42 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: is is that if there's one thing that we shouldn't 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: have hubris towards its fire. Agreed. Do you think we 44 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: might control fire thanks to Prometheus being given it by 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: the gods? Yep? But fire controls us when it really 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: comes down to it. That's right. You gotta face off 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: a tete a tete fire. You're gonna lose, buddy, because 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you're combustible. Yeah. And so also we should say here 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: that this fire as um it should be a prequel 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: to the how wildfires work and how um spontantaneous human 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: combustion works. Those two episodes were great. Agreed, This will 52 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: seal up our triumvirate, and now we're going to explain 53 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: how fire works. Yeah. I do have a couple of 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: quick stats. We're talking about the deadly nature of fire 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: does kill more people than any other force of nature. 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't find that any source for that, but I 57 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: still I was searching for it, and it brought up 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: like a handful of plagiarized versions of this article on 59 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the internet. Really. Yeah, those are always fun, especially when 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: it's your own. This one is not mine. This is 61 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: a bill Hart, Tom Harris, Tom Harris. UM, But I 62 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: do have some stats in the US, at least in 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: two thousand ten for residential building fires, over people died 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: that year, And that's sort of in the wheelhouse. It 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: fluctuates between uh about thirty hundred a year from building fires. Uh. 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: Cooking is far and away the leading cause of a 67 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: building fire, and arson is number two. Huh, which I 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: would have thought, like falling asleep with a cigarette would 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: would be above arson. UM and then total in two 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: thousand nine, and I guess this counts like any kind 71 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: of fire in the US, they were close to thirty 72 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: deaths that year, so that you know, that's a lot. Yeah, 73 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's more than um, I'm sure killed by 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: volcanoes in the US every year. I think you're right, 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, yes, that's just one or two people falling 76 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: into kill awea from getting too close. Have you seen 77 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: that footage of that scientists going, Um, he's collecting some 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: sort of I guess magma from an active volcano in Hawaii, 79 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: and um, it was really nerve racking because he goes up, 80 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: takes the sample. He's climbing up the rim and then 81 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: climbs back down and right when he steps away from it, 82 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: the magma come up over the rim exactly where he'd 83 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: just been climbing like five minutes before, and so it 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: would have like just just completely disintegrated him. I imagine 85 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: what did he say. I don't know, like, holy crap, 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: did you just see that? Well, the guy who was 87 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: filming it was like narrating like this is so stupid. Yeah, 88 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: it's very cool. I don't know what you'd search, but 89 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: it's up there on the internet somewhere search wa pony 90 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: wou and that should do it, so Chuck. The Greeks 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: thought that fire was one of the four elements earth wire, water, 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: wind and fire. Earth wind and fire and water and 93 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: nash and young silly Greeks. Uh. The reason why that 94 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really hold up is because um, earth, fire, air, 95 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: these are elements. They're matter, Yeah, they're made up of atoms. 96 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Fire is the physical manifestation of matter changing form. It's 97 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: pretty cool, like when you think of it that way. 98 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: We're going to describe how this happens. Alright, I can 99 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: tackle some of this. Chemistry is not my forte but 100 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: it is a chemical reaction at its core between oxygen 101 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: and um fuel, which I mean, we'll probably let's talk 102 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: about like a camp fire. Let's go with wood. Wood 103 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: fire is probably the easiest way to describe it. But 104 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: the wood is the fuel. The wood is the fuel. 105 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Oxygen is found in the air, that's right. But for 106 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: these things to uh make fire, you gotta have something 107 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: called combustion, yeah, and which means you're gonna have have 108 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: some sort of a spark. Um. Well, actually not always, 109 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: because as we find out, some things can combust without 110 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: a spark. I think if they get hot enough, like 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the heat is just so intense that it doesn't need 112 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: any spark, right, Yeah, But for wood, you have to 113 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: get it up to um. Uh it's ignition temperature, which 114 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: is about three d degrees fahrenheit fifty degrees cel, which 115 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: is where you're gonna start seeing some smoke because that 116 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: is cellulose burning away. Uh. And it just occurred to 117 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: me reading this today, like where there's smoke, there's fire. 118 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Not true, yeah, because things can smoke without there being 119 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: a fire. Yeah. Actually a byproduct of fire. You know, 120 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: um doesn't smoke, so I guess in order to if 121 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: you're one of the people that now says the bottom 122 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: of the totem pole or instead of top of the 123 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: totem pole. Then we can further reinforce this obnoxious quality 124 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: by encouraging you to say, where there's smoke, there is ignition, 125 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: temperature of a combustible fuel, there's volatile gases. It's nice 126 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: way to go chucked. All right, thanks? So, yeah, heat 127 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: is heat decomposes fuel where wills to say would and 128 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: in the case of would, specifically, it decomposes the um 129 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: volatile gases contained in the solid matter. Right, So these 130 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: volatile gases start to heat up themselves, and while they're 131 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: doing that, the cellulose, the solid stuff is decomposing in 132 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: turning into what's called char. Yeah, I got a little 133 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: thing on cell cellulostional Q and then you can just 134 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: take a home, no man, because that's where I get confused. 135 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm confused to cellulose about of what is cellulose, And 136 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: that's what like, that's where you make paper, that's what 137 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: you make paper from. That's what you make cellulosic ethanol from, too, 138 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and it's what you make cellophane out of. Cellophane is 139 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: regenerated cellulose. So it's it's like it looks like plastic, 140 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: but it's not. I had no idea. It is a 141 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: man made as I'm sorry, it's a natural polymer. Plastic 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: is manmade obviously, So cellophane is nothing more than regenerated 143 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: paper in a way. Wow, like they had some other 144 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: stuff to it. But that's why it's biodegradable. And I 145 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: always wonder why. I like, supposedly cellophane is biodegradable. It's like, 146 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: that's impossible. It's plastic, but it's not plastic. There's this 147 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: old cellophane and from like the fifties maybe, and it's 148 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: like good things coming twos and it's like these this 149 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: pair of twins wrapped in cellophane, Oh my god, and 150 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: they're just like kind of looking around. But yeah, you 151 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: can imagine they only have them in there for a 152 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: few seconds before they snapped the picture. For I did 153 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: not know that about cellophane. Back to the podcast right there, 154 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know about that. Hats off to you 155 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: all right back to you know, I know what the 156 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: fact of the podcast is. You're gonna save it for 157 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: when it comes. We gotta save it. Okay. So, um, 158 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: you've got the cellulose, the solid matter of wood separating 159 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: now from the volatile um gases that are starting to 160 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: lift off. That's smoke, right, yes, Okay, the wood, the 161 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: solid matter starting to turn into char um. And that 162 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: is basically if you if you burn would if you 163 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: heat it up and you separate the gases, which are 164 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the smoke, what remains is carbon and what what charcoal 165 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: is is charred wood that's had the volatile gases burned 166 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: out of it, which is why when you have a 167 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: charcoal fire, you don't have smoke, yeah, or not much 168 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: at least, yeah, because the gases have already been burned off. Yeah, 169 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: and charcoal too. That got that kind of got me 170 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: on charcoal filtering because these charcoal is a filter and 171 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I think these it is a scrubber two on smoke stacks. 172 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: And uh, if you're like I did some of those 173 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: survival articles at one point, and one of the things 174 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: you can do to purify water is take your char 175 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: from your fire, put it in like you know, cool 176 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: it down obviously and then put it in. Then put 177 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: it in like a hanky and in running creek water 178 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: through that to collect it underneath. That's awesome. And uh, 179 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: and there's like real charcoal filters too. But apparently charcoal 180 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: has a quality because once it's pure carbon like that, 181 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: it um has a knack for filtering out things like 182 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: impurities like chlorine and letting other stuff get through. So 183 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: that's why it's used as a filter. Yeah, because essentially 184 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: what you're making is a carbon filter. Yeah. Charcoal is 185 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: like basically pure carbon with all the impurities burned off. Yeah, 186 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: those impurities burned off as smoke. They're volatile gases, So 187 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty neat. Yeah, that's pretty awesome, little survival tip man, 188 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: you're killing it today? Well now that this is when 189 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: I go to sleep though. Okay, So, um, the third 190 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: component of burned wood, You've got the volatile gases smoke, 191 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: you have the char the charcoal, which is carbon, and 192 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: then you have ash, which is unburnable minerals like um, 193 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: calcium or phosphorus, I believe. Yeah, And if you like 194 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: you ever cooked with brick ets, charcoal, briqutts, you're gonna 195 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: get a lot more ash with that because it has 196 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: a lot of more like byproducts in it. Then if 197 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: you use like real wood charcoal, right, but they're not 198 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna smoke, They're just not gonna burn. It's just gonna 199 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: be left over. Like you can't get rid of it. 200 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: You can pounded into oblivion, but it's still there. Yeah. 201 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: But if you use the real wood coal then a char, 202 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: then you'll notice you don't get a lot of that stuff. 203 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah? Okay, but the cats aren't 204 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: as nasty a synthetic Brits. No, they're made from char 205 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: and like binding agents and stuff like that. And saw that. No. 206 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: I actually used to hear that, like, oh, you can't 207 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: cook with briquettes are so nasty. But they're really I 208 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: looked into it. It's not super nasty. I mean you 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: probably should cook with siwihere in between nasty and super nasty. Yeah, 210 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: well it's not. It's not as bad as I thought. 211 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was like a bunch of chemical agents 212 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: and glue and cement, and that's not the case. I 213 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: got to It's not the hot dogs of cooking materials. 214 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: That's the corn dog. Okay, um okay, So we've got 215 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the components right, yeah. Um. As these volatile um gases 216 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: continue to heat up um too about five degrees fahrenheit 217 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: two six degrees celsius, they the molecules break apart, and 218 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: when they break apart, they go to combine with oxygen 219 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: oxidation right um. And the same thing happens with the 220 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: carbon in the wood, but this takes pace in place 221 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: much more slowly. But one of the the stars of 222 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: this chemical reaction, this change of breaking down to these 223 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,239 Speaker 1: molecules and then the recombining into other things like carbon dioxide, 224 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide. Water. Isn't that weird that fire produces water? Um, 225 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: that's why sometimes you have steam coming from a fire, 226 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: right um. The star of all this chemical reactions, all 227 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: these chemical reactions is heat is produced. Heat, energy is released, 228 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: which allows us to cook and be comfortable and feel 229 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: secure and all the good stuff that comes with fire exactly. 230 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: And because of the heat that's released as these things 231 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: are heated up, Um, it is sustainable. That means a 232 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: fire is sustainable so long as there's fuel and there's 233 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: oxygen present. Yeah. That was the kind of creepy part, 234 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: or not creepy, but it's self perpetuating, like that flame 235 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: is gonna heat up any fuel near it to the 236 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: point where it can release those gases to recombine with oxygen. 237 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty elegant if you think about it. Yeah. Another 238 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: big star of fire besides heat is light, and part 239 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: of that is from the same um the carbon atoms right, yeah, 240 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: that are combining, that are being torn apart. The molecules 241 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: that UM form up the char breaking down in their 242 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: constituent carbon atoms when they combine with oxygen, right recombine, Yeah, 243 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I think that would make carbon monoxide. But as they 244 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: change um, they they're electrons will go up and erge 245 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: level will change orbit and when they come back down 246 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: they emit. They release some of that energy that they 247 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: have and they release it in the form of photons. 248 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: They produce light um and indescence, right, Yeah, it's it's 249 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: heat producing light. Like we talked about bioluminescence, where basically 250 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: heat up a filament in a light bulb and it glows. 251 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: That's the same thing with the fire. It's the same 252 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: based on the same principle, which is incandescence. Pretty awesome 253 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: and depending on the temperature, uh, different colored light is 254 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: going to be produced. Yeah, Like uh you remember the 255 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: bunsen burners back in chemistry class and how the buns 256 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: and burners have little slots on the side that you 257 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: can vary the amount of like oxygen getting in there. 258 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's the little flickering orange flame of a 259 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: buns and burner. Then if you let a lot more 260 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: oxygen in, it's going to be more Uh, it's gonna 261 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: be more hot. And that's why that's when it's gonna 262 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: be that blue jet the same as when you see 263 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: like a jet plane, like right next to where the 264 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: flame comes out, it's gonna be like really blue, and 265 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: then it gets more orange and yellow, you know, like 266 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the Batmobile. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I know 267 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: exactly original bile No. Um, we've seen a bunch of 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: batmobiles recently. There's a documentary about the Batmobile. That's what 269 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: all those were there for a comic con. Okay, we 270 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: had a mum and I had our picture taken with 271 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: it with which one the new one, the tumbler, that's 272 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: what they called the new one, is it? Yeah? The 273 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Chrystalin one is called the tongue. The chrystal one was. 274 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: It's awesome, It's pretty cool. Uh so yeah. The the 275 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: reason why the blue one happens to be a different 276 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: color and hotter is because there's more energy being released, 277 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: that's right. Uh. The lower energy and slightly less hot 278 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: part of the flame that glows orange yellow is at 279 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: the top and um, the reason the flame is pointed 280 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: this is this is pretty awesome, not the fact of 281 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. The space part is okay, I think, all right, 282 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: go ahead. Then, So a flame is pointed and it 283 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: burns upward because the gases that are burning what you're 284 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: burning right there are volatile gases. They're being burned off 285 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: right um as they as they burn there, they're hotter, 286 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: but they're also less dance and they're moving upward towards 287 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: the less dense air above it, which causes it to 288 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: be pointed. But if you were to light you take 289 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: it for granted, but it's kind of cool to know 290 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: how that works. Yeah, that's why it always burns upward. Yeah, 291 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: it tends to burn upward. No, it always does, always 292 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: burns upward. And that's also why it's pointed too, because 293 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: the air around it is dense and it's pushing it in. Right. 294 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Pretty awesome, But if you were to light a fire 295 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: in zero gravity, it would burn as a sphere. I 296 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: want to see this, I mean, can it be done 297 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: if we go into zero gravity? Sure we have, but 298 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean they have zero gravity environments? Is do they 299 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: a tech? Surely someone has started a fire in one 300 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: of those just to see this. I think it's a 301 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: really bad thing if a fire starts in a zero 302 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: gravity environment. I guess. So that's I just gotta think 303 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: that someone's tried this. I'm sure. I'm sure there's a 304 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: video of it on YouTube. Now there's probably a good 305 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: reason why. And someone's gonna write and say, huge dummies. 306 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: Don't you understand that when you start a fire in 307 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: zero gravity that we all die? That's right? Yeah? Okay, 308 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: so steam, let's talk about steam, because because we talked 309 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: about the recombination of atoms, when these gases are released, 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: the same thing happens when you boil water. You know, 311 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: you get this this gas mixing with oxygen in the air, 312 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: but it's not going to combust, thank thankfully, or cooking 313 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: would be much more dangerous. Um. It's because some of 314 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: these atoms aren't as attracted to each other. In the 315 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: case of water, for sure, they're tepid towards one another. Yeah. 316 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: If you're talking fire, though, they have carbon and hydrogen, 317 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: which are really attracted to oxygen, and so they like 318 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: to get together and uh combine, recombine more easily, right, 319 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: pretty simple. Uh. And then we've been talking mostly about 320 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: wood as a fuel, but tons of things are are fuel. 321 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Gasoline is a good fuel. Gasoline doesn't produce char. Basically, 322 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: heat vaporizes gasoline into nothing but volatile gases which burn. Yeah, 323 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: that's so, there you go. And I always heard too 324 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: that gasoline ignites like the vapor ignites, not the liquid. 325 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah, okay, yeah, it's not the it's 326 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 1: not the liquid, it's the gas. But heat causes all 327 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: that liquid to turn into the gas. Which, um, So 328 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: different fuels are going to catch at different temperature, and 329 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: no matter what the fuel, it'll have a piloted ignition 330 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: temperature and an unpiloted ignition temperature. Basically, the piloted ignition 331 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: temperature is that um that point that temperature where the 332 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: volatile gases are being released and they're heated up to 333 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: the point where if you introduce a spark, it would 334 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: blow up. That's right. One of the defining characteristics of 335 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: a volatile gas is that um it basically disperses at 336 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: room temperature, I believe, right, Um, So at some point 337 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: introducing a spark is gonna set that off at some temperature, 338 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: which I guess means that like if you have gasoline 339 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: cooled to enough of a temperature, just lighting a match 340 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: next to it won't set off the gas. I don't 341 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: know if this is a question we should be raising 342 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: a general audience. Don't try this. I'm curious, so we'll 343 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: have to check that out. But the piloted ignition temperature 344 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: is basically when something gets hit by lightning and the 345 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: heat is so intense that there's no need for a spark. 346 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: It just heats it up the point where now it's 347 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: on fire, where it come bust. Pretty cool. And I 348 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: try to get to the origin of pilot like a 349 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: pilot light, which is the same thing, I guess, and 350 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. I don't know where that came from, because, yeah, 351 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I think about it, You've got the gas burning and 352 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: the it's glowing, yeah, and then you just hit the 353 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: spark and then bam, you just ignited the gas. So 354 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: it's at the pilot, the piloted ignition temperature, and your 355 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: hot water heater. But I'm sure someone knows the answer 356 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: to that, so if you do send it in. We're 357 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: raising a lot of questions in this one and giving 358 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: some answers. Um the shape, and by shape usually they 359 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: mean like surface area of a of a fuel effects 360 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: how efficiently it burns and how easily it burns too. Yeah, 361 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is pretty basic. Like if you have 362 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: a big thick log, obviously you're going to have way 363 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: less surface area exposed and combustible then if you had 364 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: like a toothpick. Yeah, and it can absorb a lot 365 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: more heat too, big thick log um. But yeah, if 366 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of little pieces of wood, it's 367 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: gonna burn more quickly, catch more easily because there's more 368 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: exposed surface surface temperature and more of that fuels is 369 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: exposed to the heat than a big, like you said, 370 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: a big log or something. Yeah, and that's why when 371 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: you're starting you know, if you ever watched a bear 372 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: grills do this thing or less stroud, they try to 373 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: get the little like tiny little shavings from the inside 374 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: of h like you peel away the bark on a 375 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: tree and then get the shavings off of the tree itself. 376 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: And that's the stuff that's gonna like really combust easily 377 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: through friction with like, uh, you know, there's different ways 378 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: of doing the little I've never been I've never done that. 379 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Have you have you started a fire using like friction? 380 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Have you really, that's impressive. I do that stuff when 381 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I go camping now for fun, like in front of 382 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: the real fire. You know that we started with our 383 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: big lighters, and I'm sitting there with my beer and 384 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: my Southern comfort in my comfy chair and the steak 385 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: is on the grill. I'll do some little survival stuff 386 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: just kind of for fun. You know. That's cool until 387 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: I get tired of it and give up. Yeah, but yeah, 388 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: it's fun. Um, Well, hats off to you for knowing 389 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: how to do that. Well, it's pretty easy. I mean 390 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: there's different ways. There's the plow method or the little 391 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: bow uh where you make the little string to bow. Yeah, 392 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: and do that little number. Yeah, I've seen that one. Yeah, 393 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: there's the castaway one. Yeah, that's the plow method. Oh 394 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: that's plow. Yeah, that makes sense. They'd be called that 395 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: you anything else, I don't think. So do you do 396 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: you do you feel like we explain this correctly? And well? Yeah, 397 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's pretty basic chemistry. We're basically heat 398 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: breaks down a fuel so that it can combine with 399 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: oxygen and ignite, yeah, and then burned. That's right, And 400 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: it's self sustaining so long as there's fuel and oxygen, 401 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: and then all you need is a bear skin rug 402 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: and some cinemax and you're all set for Friday night. Awesome. 403 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: Gets Uh. If you want to know more about fire, 404 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: you can type fire into the search bar at how 405 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: stuffworks dot com and that will bring up this article 406 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: and plenty of other stuff too. Um, maybe even some 407 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: survival stuff by one Charles W. Bryant. Uh. And I 408 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: said search bar. So it's time for a listener mail. 409 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this email a bad to the bone 410 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: so uh. Joscelyn Stone here in Victoria, BC, Canada, apparently 411 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: hates bad to the Bone just as much as I do. 412 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: So we are We're friends in that way, uh, she says. 413 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: A few years ago, my partner Tim discovered that he 414 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: could set anything on his heart desired on his alarm 415 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: clock for his cell phone. He searched for the perfect 416 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: song and decided on Bad to the Bone. Tim believed, 417 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: in order to slowly get himself ready for the day, 418 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: he needed alarms at five am, five thirty and six. 419 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: I hate that stuff. I, on the other hand, wake 420 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: up without an alarm at six thirty without fail. What 421 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I do? All right? Um? Every morning I was shocked 422 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: by the full volume darn and or an air, I 423 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: would the way to wake up right there. I would 424 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: blast up to a sitting position in bed, my heart 425 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: exploding out of my chest, and look next to me 426 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: at Tim, who was sleeping through the whole event. I 427 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: would punch him, get up and turn off the alarm myself, 428 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: and then repeat this two more times. What kind of 429 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: business partners are these? I don't think their business partners. 430 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: That was like an American beauty remember that? Oh yeah, 431 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: it's like I'd like you to meet my partner. He's like, oh, 432 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: what line of work you guys? That was a quantum 433 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: bleap meeting load star. Huh wow, yeah, look at you. Um. 434 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: For some reason, no matter how much I begged him, 435 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: he wouldn't change the song or let me turn down 436 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: the volume. If I secretly change it before bed, he 437 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: would change it back. But I tried to turn it 438 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: off and hide his phone, he would find it and 439 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: turn it back again. If I turned the volume down 440 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: while he was sleeping, his spidy sense would start tingling 441 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: and he'd wake up and turn it back on. It 442 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: turned into a game that lasted a full year, finally 443 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: ending when I told him the slipper of amusement I 444 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: found in the game was gone, and I would throw 445 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: his phone into the ocean if he didn't change it. 446 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: So eventually she just had enough. It's like, this isn't 447 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: fun anymore. We ended up buying an alarm clock radio, 448 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: which he also sleeps through. Now, thanks to Tim, every 449 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: time you hear bad at the Bone in public, I 450 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: immediately leave the area lest I explode in a muddy, 451 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: scalding rock going rage like the wamanoo guys or wow, 452 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: nice reference. Yeah, so, and then she said, ps do 453 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: a podcast on accordions after all that? Jeez, who's that? Jocelyne, 454 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: thank you, Joscelyn from Victoria Busi Cannon, thank you, and Tim, Tim, 455 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: good luck. Tim and Joscelyn helped you guys find a 456 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: yes song you could both agree on. Agreed, and Tim 457 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: just get up, dude? Is it some for some people? 458 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: It's hard. I never understood the snooze because wouldn't you 459 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: rather to sleep that time? No, I'm with you, but 460 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, instead of being woken up every ten minute, 461 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: not that easy to just wake right up, right eyed 462 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 1: and bushy tail, and to accept others as they are. Uh, 463 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: let's see what do we what do we want? Um? Geez, 464 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. We'll have to 465 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: figure it out. 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