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Speaker 7: the program, and is getting louder and louder, it seems
Speaker 7: more inevitable by the day that Joe Biden will move
Speaker 7: forward with a whole bunch of preemptive pardons He's had
Speaker 7: a lot of pushback on the pardon that he gave
Speaker 7: his son. He gave what over fifteen hundred commutations, you know,
Speaker 7: even this this judge in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that
Speaker 7: was literally, you know, sending people to a for profit
Speaker 7: place for rehabilitation, I guess. And another guy that you know,
Speaker 7: fifty three million dollars in Indiana that he got out
Speaker 7: of a town of fifteen thousand people. Not sure why
Speaker 7: that person got it, but I would expect a lot
Speaker 7: of people, you know the names. We keep hearing a
Speaker 7: lot about Liz Cheney. The GOP has issued a criminal
Speaker 7: referral for Liz Cheney. We'll get into some of the
Speaker 7: details of that in just a minute. We have now
Speaker 7: evidence Tom Massey put out that the Attorney General Merrick Garland,
Speaker 7: he claims lied to him under oath about whether confidential
Speaker 7: human sources were at the Capitol on January sixth, twenty
Speaker 7: twenty one, and in fact Garland denied that that was
Speaker 7: the case. Is he going to be up for a
Speaker 7: preemptive pardon. You keep hearing the name Anthony Fauci. You
Speaker 7: keep hearing about Joe Biden's brother and other family members.
Speaker 7: You have Benny Thompson also the January sixth Committee. He's
Speaker 7: open he wants a pardon Bill Clinton, saying he'd love
Speaker 7: a preemptive pardon for his wife. I don't know if
Speaker 7: it looks like they're going to be handing him out
Speaker 7: in droves. But remember Joe Biden was the one that
Speaker 7: said he wouldn't even give Hunter a pardon.
Speaker 1: So listen, your son Hunter day on trial.
Speaker 8: And I know that you cannot speak about an ongoing
Speaker 8: federal prosecution, but.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you.
Speaker 8: Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter
Speaker 8: what it is. Yes, And have you ruled out a
Speaker 8: pardon for your son?
Speaker 4: Yes. I go to sever time the president would not
Speaker 4: pardon or community sense for its on Hunter. I want
Speaker 4: to make sure that that is not going.
Speaker 2: To change for over the next six months.
Speaker 9: The President's say it's still a no, it's still an
Speaker 9: I will always you know it's still a no.
Speaker 4: It will be a no. It is a no. And
Speaker 4: I don't have anything else.
Speaker 5: To add through the question regarding the family. I'm extremely
Speaker 5: proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome an addiction.
Speaker 5: He is He's one of the brightest, most decent men.
Speaker 5: I know, and I am satisfied that I'm not going
Speaker 5: to do anything I said. I advide by the jury decision.
Speaker 5: I will do that and I will not pardon him.
Speaker 1: Well he did.
Speaker 7: And now the list for requested pardons from Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 7: Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, Anthony Fauci, and the list goes on.
Speaker 7: I'm sure the other Biden family members as well, and
Speaker 7: Joe might want to consider one for himself. And it's
Speaker 7: pretty unbelievable anyway. Here to weigh in on all of
Speaker 7: this is Brett Tolman is back with US, executive director
Speaker 7: of Right on Crime. Former US attorney Greg Jarreed is
Speaker 7: with US Fox News Legal analysts, best selling author. All right, Well,
Speaker 7: he said he wasn't going to pardon Hunter, but we
Speaker 7: keep hearing that they're going to partner a whole bunch
Speaker 7: of people. And what are your thoughts? Is Merrek Garland
Speaker 7: now added to the list? Is Liz Cheney now that
Speaker 7: a criminal referral is official from the GOP?
Speaker 1: Is she now on the list?
Speaker 7: Is this why Benny Thompson said publicly that he would
Speaker 7: love a preemptive pardon?
Speaker 6: Greg, Yeah, yes to all of the above, and the
Speaker 6: number of times that Joe Biden lied about it. You
Speaker 6: just played them all. It's really Brett taking and this
Speaker 6: idea of preemptive pardons underscores, doesn't it, Shawn, the lawlessness
Speaker 6: of the Biden administration and his many political allies that
Speaker 6: you've just named. It stinks of corruption, It debases the law,
Speaker 6: and the fact that Biden is even considering it is
Speaker 6: really quite offensive. You know, the pardon provision in Article
Speaker 6: two of the Constitution, it contemplated crimes actually committed, not
Speaker 6: crimes for which a person has not even been indicted
Speaker 6: or investigated. That's not what the framers intended. That there
Speaker 6: really is no legitimate authority over unidentified offenses. How can
Speaker 6: a president pardon someone for something he's not even aware of? Well,
Speaker 6: he can't. That's ill Well.
Speaker 7: You're the constitutional attorney, though, I mean my reading and
Speaker 7: my understanding of it, the power of the pardon absolutely,
Speaker 7: And if it's preemptive versus you know what you're setting
Speaker 7: post conviction or post even criminal charge, does it really
Speaker 7: make a difference. Does that authority really not exist for
Speaker 7: a president?
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is that it's illogical and it's anathema
Speaker 6: to the kind of system of Justice that our founders.
Speaker 7: You're saying it's unethical, but is it unconstitutional? I'm not
Speaker 7: so sure that that would be ruled on constitutional.
Speaker 6: We don't know the answer because it's never been challenged.
Speaker 6: The pardon provision, as you correctly state, the Constitution is
Speaker 6: actually silent on that. It's simply declarative. It doesn't say,
Speaker 6: you know, the only other preemptive pardon was Gerald Ford's
Speaker 6: blanket pardon of Nixon for getting and all unidentified crimes.
Speaker 6: Was it valid? We don't know because it was never challenged. Yes,
Speaker 6: it's a factual precedent of history, but it is not
Speaker 6: a legal one. And I just wonder that if wholesale
Speaker 6: preemptive pardons given out to political allies like you know,
Speaker 6: party favors and Christmas candy were challenged, might the Supreme
Speaker 6: Court set reasonable limits? They might?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's your take on this, Brett Telman, what is
Speaker 1: your take on it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the discussion is one that many have had.
Speaker 3: And remember Sean that it was the Democrats who said,
Speaker 3: who ranted and raved about accusing Trump and when he
Speaker 3: was leaving office, that he was going to do the
Speaker 3: same thing. And they had all the talking points and
Speaker 3: now they're silent, and so I understand what Greg's saying,
Speaker 3: and I think it's true that the Framers didn't contemplate
Speaker 3: or anticipate it, but there's nothing that limits it. And
Speaker 3: I think if a Supreme Court is reviewing it, I
Speaker 3: think the Supreme Court says it can be done because
Speaker 3: there's no limitation on the pardon power that's not written
Speaker 3: in the Constitution, and we've seen there as a precedent
Speaker 3: for a preemptive use of it. What is so offensive
Speaker 3: and what the American people need to focus on is
Speaker 3: why is he doing it? And what happened when he
Speaker 3: was told, hey, by the Office of the Pardon Attorneys.
Speaker 3: He was told, let's vet all of these more closely,
Speaker 3: let's actually dig into the cases. And the White House
Speaker 3: refused to do so. And the reason they did is
Speaker 3: because they just want the image of him giving more
Speaker 3: clemencies and more pardons than any other president, because they've
Speaker 3: believed that that would be somewhat.
Speaker 4: Of his legacy.
Speaker 3: And it's offensive to any of us that have been
Speaker 3: working on clemencies and working in this area of the law.
Speaker 7: Why do I expect that this preemptive pardon, these preemptive
Speaker 7: pardons are more likely than not, Greg Jarrett, I think
Speaker 7: they're all coming. I mean, for example, we have Congressman
Speaker 7: Loudermilk releasing an interim report on January sixth that issued
Speaker 7: a criminal referral to investigate evidence regarding Liz Cheney that
Speaker 7: she tampered with witnesses while she was co chair of
Speaker 7: the January sixth committee. And he identifies a number of
Speaker 7: laws that he wants the FBI to investigate and says
Speaker 7: that federal law was likely broken by the select committee.
Speaker 7: And anyway, it revealed that the former congressman woman tampered
Speaker 7: with a witness by secretly communicating with the witness. I
Speaker 7: know who it is, but I'm not going to mention
Speaker 7: it out of I guess fairness to that person because
Speaker 7: that person has not been named as or has not
Speaker 7: been referred. But anyway, and they cite eighteen USC. Fifteen twelve,
Speaker 7: and similarly, the Federal Bureau of Investigation must also investigate
Speaker 7: Cheney for violating eighteen USCC sixteen twenty two, which prohibits
Speaker 7: any person from procuring another person to commit perjury and quote,
Speaker 7: based on the evidence obtained by this subcommittee, perjury was
Speaker 7: in fact committed and there was lies told under the
Speaker 7: oath to the Select Committee.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's real?
Speaker 6: Oh, I do think it's real, And I read Lauermounk's report,
Speaker 6: and you know, it's pretty compelling evidence of witness tampering
Speaker 6: as well as suborning perjury.
Speaker 7: And by the way, in this particular case, she went
Speaker 7: in this prime time Hollywood produced extravaganza with a predetermined outcome.
Speaker 7: They actually had testimony from the individual involved in the incident,
Speaker 7: and this had to do with the person that was
Speaker 7: driving Donald Trump on January sixth, and the question was
Speaker 7: whether he had tried to commandeer the vehicle, and the
Speaker 7: driver said that never happened.
Speaker 6: Right, and that much of that was surpressed. So you know,
Speaker 6: we knew at the time it was a charade, and
Speaker 6: now we know the true ugliness of that charade thanks
Speaker 6: to a congressional investigation, which tells me that the incoming
Speaker 6: Department of Justice needs to take a serious look at it.
Speaker 6: Your previous question was, you know, Willie actually grant these
Speaker 6: preemptive pardons to all of his political allies and supporters,
Speaker 6: And the only one that I'm pretty certain he's going
Speaker 6: to issue is for his brother James, who was knee
Speaker 6: deep in the suspected influence pedaling schemes in which.
Speaker 7: You know, what about what about himself and what about
Speaker 7: other family members that benefited financially, Well, he may do
Speaker 7: that as well.
Speaker 6: He may do it for every single member of the
Speaker 6: Biden family, particularly those who received what the Oversight Committee
Speaker 6: has said were payouts from foreign sources, principally China, Ukraine
Speaker 6: and elsewhere. So, you know, I think Jonathan Turley made
Speaker 6: a very good point today in his column in the
Speaker 6: New York Post. The media and Democrats told Americans if
Speaker 6: Trump's elected, it's the end of democracy. Opponents will be
Speaker 6: Trump opponents will be locked up. Well, now it looks
Speaker 6: like democracy will survive. And you know, Trump insists he
Speaker 6: won't seek retaliation. So to keep the phony narrative going,
Speaker 6: Biden's going to issue these preemptive pardons so that media
Speaker 6: and Dems can why once more and claim his pardons
Speaker 6: saved democracy. That may sound cynical, but citizism is the
Speaker 6: foundation of Biden politics.
Speaker 7: All right, quick break, we'll come right back. We'll continue,
Speaker 7: We'll get to your calls coming up. Eight hundred and
Speaker 7: nine to four one Sean, As we continue. We continue
Speaker 7: now our legal analysis Brett Tollman, Greg Jarrett on the
Speaker 7: issue of preemptive pardons and who might need one. If
Speaker 7: you really want to clean up the weaponization of the
Speaker 7: Department of Justice, if you really want to clean it up,
Speaker 7: those people that did abuse power probably should be held accountable.
Speaker 7: Then this way, new people going into the future will
Speaker 7: know that if they abuse power that one day there
Speaker 7: might be justice coming their way. That would be one
Speaker 7: way to clean it out. I don't know how you
Speaker 7: otherwise prevent it from ever happening.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 7: Let me go to Tom Massey, and he pointed out
Speaker 7: in his ex post that Merrick Garland, he claims, lied
Speaker 7: to him under oath. We now know from the age
Speaker 7: from the Inspector General's report that there were confidential human
Speaker 7: sources at the Capitol on January sixth, and Massey asked
Speaker 7: Merrick Garland directly about it.
Speaker 1: Now he lied, Listen.
Speaker 2: I was hoping today to give you an opportunity to
Speaker 2: put to rest the concerns that people have that there
Speaker 2: were federal agents or assets of the federal government present
Speaker 2: on James January fifth and January sixth.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us without talking about.
Speaker 2: Particular incidents or particular videos, how many agents or assets
Speaker 2: of the federal government were present on January sixth, whether
Speaker 2: they agitated to go into the capitol, and if any
Speaker 2: of them did so.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to violate this norm of the rule
Speaker 3: of law. I'm not going to comment on investigation that's
Speaker 3: ongoing on that video.
Speaker 9: That was your answer to a question to me two
Speaker 9: years ago when I said, how many agents or assets
Speaker 9: of the government were present on January fifth and January
Speaker 9: sixth and agitating in the crowd to go into the capitol,
Speaker 9: and how many went into the capitol? Can you answer
Speaker 9: that now?
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 6: Oh, last time.
Speaker 4: You don't know how many there were or there were none.
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to either of those questions.
Speaker 1: If there were any. I don't know how many.
Speaker 4: You've know whether there are any.
Speaker 9: I think you may have just perjured yourself that you
Speaker 9: don't know that there were any. You want to say
Speaker 9: that again, that you don't know that there were no.
Speaker 1: Personal knowledge of this matter. Wow, what's your take on that? Brett?
Speaker 3: Well, let me just let me say I hope that
Speaker 3: President Biden does grant all these preemptive pardons, because it's
Speaker 3: going to be the same result as all the lawfair
Speaker 3: that they've engaged in. The American people are going to say, Oh,
Speaker 3: that person's guilty, that person's guilty, that person's guilty, and
Speaker 3: they're just protecting their own and they're tired of Washington DC.
Speaker 3: They're tired of all of that, and they sent a
Speaker 3: really strong message that they don't want a double standard,
Speaker 3: and right now the only double standard that we're seeing
Speaker 3: is on the Democrat side. Are there people that need
Speaker 3: to be investigated. Yes, Unfortunately, qualified immunity has been strengthened
Speaker 3: to the point we can't hold a lot of these
Speaker 3: bureaucrats responsible. We have to make changes to the law
Speaker 3: in order to pursue them in most criminal cases. But
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean we can't get the value of investigating them,
Speaker 3: you know, because they deserve it, and making them plead
Speaker 3: the fifth or making them make those decisions, or making
Speaker 3: Joe Biden issue a peremptive pardon the American people and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: we actually know what happened.
Speaker 7: Greg appreciate it, Brett appreciate you as well. Thank you
Speaker 7: both for being with us.
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Speaker 7: I feel very confident that the message is going to
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Speaker 7: and tens of thousands of Israelies that have been displaced
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Speaker 7: But certainly help is on the way. One of the
Speaker 7: things that I think I'm most excited about is the
Speaker 7: Department of Government Efficiency DOGE as they call it, and
Speaker 7: the fact, the idea and why does this matter to
Speaker 7: me so much? They're pledging to cut two trillion dollars
Speaker 7: in federal spending and don't think it's going to be easy.
Speaker 7: The resistance is going to be fierce against the bureaucratic state,
Speaker 7: and I'm just warning. You see, for example, the Biden administration,
Speaker 7: as part of their sabotage, did this five year deal
Speaker 7: with the Social Security Administration and the AFGE to allow
Speaker 7: tens and tens of thousands of federal workers to remain
Speaker 7: in this hybrid work arrangement where they can tell a
Speaker 7: work through twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not part of the plan.
Speaker 7: The Elon musk vivek Ramaswami have said to federal employees,
Speaker 7: prepare to show up for work like everybody else in
Speaker 7: America shows up for work. There are some people that
Speaker 7: have remote jobs, but in the post COVID world, most
Speaker 7: people now are back showing up at work and show
Speaker 7: up or you're going to lose your job. And many
Speaker 7: of these people will lose their jobs anyway. However, this
Speaker 7: is something. This is a way, another way that Biden
Speaker 7: and Harris are trying to sabotage the incoming Trump administration.
Speaker 7: There is a Congressman, Eric Burlason from Iowa spoke about
Speaker 7: a continuing resolution saying it's shameful the people who celebrate
Speaker 7: celebrate DOGE or the Department of Government Efficiency are going
Speaker 7: to vote for another billion dollars to be added to
Speaker 7: the deficit. Anyway, here's what this congressman said.
Speaker 10: It's a total dumpster fire. I think it's garbage. This
Speaker 10: is what Washington d C.
Speaker 1: Has done.
Speaker 10: This is why I ran for Congress to try to
Speaker 10: stop this, and sadly this is happening again. I think
Speaker 10: that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge coming in
Speaker 10: I can't. And yet we're going to vote for another
Speaker 10: billion dollars to be added to the deficit, and so
Speaker 10: it's ironic Figger doptin future. Personally, I'm disappointed. I think
Speaker 10: that he can do better, he can communicate better. The
Speaker 10: fact that we haven't seen the language today and we're
Speaker 10: supposed to vote on it this week is unacceptable now.
Speaker 7: Congress Woman Victoria Sparks out of Indiana said, I will
Speaker 7: stay as a registered Republican, but will not sit on
Speaker 7: committees or participate in the caucus until I see the
Speaker 7: Republican leadership in Congress is all about governing. I don't
Speaker 7: need to be involved in circuses. I'd rather spend more
Speaker 7: of my time helping at DOGE and at Tom Massey
Speaker 7: to save our republic as was mandated by the American people.
Speaker 7: And she is going deep in the paint and saying
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm sorry, this matters, this is real.
Speaker 7: We have nearly forty you know, trillion dollars in debt,
Speaker 7: I think one way, and by the way, we do
Speaker 7: have money. We have to spend Social Security, Medicare. They're
Speaker 7: headed towards insolvency. It's gonna have to be dealt with.
Speaker 7: Money's gonna have to be allocated. They raided the lock box,
Speaker 7: they stole it. And in the other area that's gonna
Speaker 7: need well at least reappropriation of monies and elimination of waste,
Speaker 7: fraud and abuse. But we've got a gap of vulnerability
Speaker 7: in terms of the military technology that will represent modern warfare,
Speaker 7: which these wars are no longer going to be fought,
Speaker 7: you know, on battlefields. They're gonna be fought in air
Speaker 7: conditioned offices of people and people pushing buttons. We better
Speaker 7: be prepared for that as well. So that's gonna take
Speaker 7: a lot of money, and we're gonna have to build
Speaker 7: a border wall. That's going to cost you probably billions
Speaker 7: by the time it's all said and done, but it's
Speaker 7: something we have to do, and we have to depoor people.
Speaker 7: That's not going to be cheap either. Anyway, Congresswoman Victoria
Speaker 7: Sparks is with us.
Speaker 4: How are you good to talk to you son? Thank
Speaker 4: you for bringing attention to this issue.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I'm dead set against taxes that
Speaker 7: will hurt economic growth. Economic growth will bring more revenue
Speaker 7: into the government number one. Number two, if we do
Speaker 7: become energy dominant, a top piece of Donald Trump's platform,
Speaker 7: that will help offset a lot of the moneies that
Speaker 7: I know that I've identified that it's going to have
Speaker 7: to be spent. Do you agree with me on spending
Speaker 7: on the military, shoring up Social Security and Medicare from insolvency,
Speaker 7: and building the wall, of course, and.
Speaker 4: We need to have money to actually to serve the
Speaker 4: people for the causes that the government should provide. But
Speaker 4: we cannot continue what we're doing right now to give
Speaker 4: the money left and right and really just fraud and
Speaker 4: abuse in the system. And I think Elan and Vivik
Speaker 4: are actually pretty conservative, just a two tree, and there
Speaker 4: is way more fraud like that. Just in healthcare. We
Speaker 4: have trillions of offsets, the truly over building all of
Speaker 4: the system and given to large Oligotholis, and you know
Speaker 4: it's given left and right this money where people's quality
Speaker 4: of healthcare is going down and prices are hyperinsplated. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is really becoming a destructive for our economy. And
Speaker 4: when we are not out of money, we will not
Speaker 4: help for the causes that we need to spend money
Speaker 4: on and serve the people. And I think this is
Speaker 4: a very serious discussion. But I'll be honest with Yucagus
Speaker 4: haven't had this discussion for a long time now. For decades,
Speaker 4: we abandon our duty and just have talking points and
Speaker 4: messaging bills, and people all set up with that.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. The people have fed up with it.
Speaker 7: So how do you go about slashing And what I
Speaker 7: like the most about this is, to me, it's a
Speaker 7: return to the vision of our framer and our founders,
Speaker 7: which is limited government, greater freedom. And and you've you've
Speaker 7: had this this NonStop mission creep of radical socialism, and
Speaker 7: whether we want to admit it or not, we have adopted,
Speaker 7: you know, programs and involvement in government that I think
Speaker 7: that we don't need any involvement in at all in
Speaker 7: our day to day lives. So I think there is
Speaker 7: a lot to cut, for sure. I mean, there's going
Speaker 7: to be a lot of low hanging fruit. But then
Speaker 7: I think when you get to the nitty gritty, you know,
Speaker 7: what what do what do people want out of their government?
Speaker 1: What does government do well? How are your local schools?
Speaker 7: I would I'd give a lot of local school districts
Speaker 7: an F especially in big blue cities that have been
Speaker 7: run by Democrats for decades. I'd give safety and security
Speaker 7: in big cities at big F two. I don't think
Speaker 7: they're keeping people safe and secure. You know, I think
Speaker 7: Obamacare has been a disaster. I think that the fact
Speaker 7: that they rated the the coffers of you know, the
Speaker 7: Social Security Trust Fund and Medicare and they have misappropriated
Speaker 7: so many billions of not trillions of dollars over the
Speaker 7: years is unconscionable. And then they've you know, then we
Speaker 7: have this this debt that they we've accumulated that we're
Speaker 7: passing on to our kids and grandkids.
Speaker 1: It's got to stop.
Speaker 4: Rightly, right and it's a fiscal calamity coming up that
Speaker 4: we will not have money to provide coose functions. But
Speaker 4: there's really a fault of Congress, and unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 4: Congress has not being this duty to the American people
Speaker 4: and I'm glad to see people like Elan and Vivid
Speaker 4: and President Trump that actually want to keep promises to
Speaker 4: the people and go after fraud and a viewers and
Speaker 4: have the backbones not to be afraid. The challenge is,
Speaker 4: if this doesn't go through Congress, this swamp we'll recover
Speaker 4: in four years and going to be business as usual.
Speaker 4: So Congress needs to keep it promises to the people
Speaker 4: and not to be afraid to deliver it on our promises.
Speaker 4: Otherwise we're not worth to be here and we don't
Speaker 4: have that courage anymore. This is institutions where founding fathers,
Speaker 4: we're courageous. We willing sacrifice their lives. Now turning into
Speaker 4: circuits and with a bunch of clowns doing presentations and
Speaker 4: posting on social media. That's not what people hired us
Speaker 4: to do. And we need to keep our promises because
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, American people gave my party
Speaker 4: one more chance to deliver. If not, we're going to
Speaker 4: have Marxist prevailed and they're going to take over healthcare
Speaker 4: out the industry, and that's going to be faull of
Speaker 4: this Congress because we have no excuses.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you have no excuses.
Speaker 7: What do you do with what Eric Burlin's burlinsm was saying,
Speaker 7: uh when he said it shameful. The people that celebrate
Speaker 7: Doge are going to vote for another billion dollars auted
Speaker 7: to the deficit.
Speaker 1: What do you do in the short term?
Speaker 4: Well, listen as a hypocrisy, right, you know, at least
Speaker 4: Journey Centers have his socialists try to incluse with his
Speaker 4: honest about that. And we're aligned to the American people.
Speaker 4: But we have a mechanism next Congress, no excuses. We
Speaker 4: control the Senate, we conturn the House, and we control presidency.
Speaker 4: You know, we have reconciliation which allows us to have
Speaker 4: you know, fifty votes plus g evans of fifty one
Speaker 4: to be able to pass legislation. So if Republicans grow
Speaker 4: the backbone and back up President Trump and his policy
Speaker 4: and dodge, we can put some serious reform to help
Speaker 4: the growth of economy, to help good policy, to help
Speaker 4: with standing, to have energy policy, to have healthcare policy,
Speaker 4: to deal with our debt. We can put it in
Speaker 4: the coach which will have significant effects for innovation and
Speaker 4: growth of economy. And Republicans have no excuses, but we
Speaker 4: need to have courage, and we need to put down
Speaker 4: pressure up pressure on elected officials to put their money
Speaker 4: where mouses.
Speaker 1: Quick break will come right back.
Speaker 7: We'll continue more with Indiana Congresswoman Victorious Sparks on the
Speaker 7: other side. Eight hundred and ninety four one shotter number
Speaker 7: as we continue continue now, Indiana Congresswoman Victoria's Sparks is
Speaker 7: with us.
Speaker 1: We're going to start out.
Speaker 7: Republicans will have I guess a one or two seat
Speaker 7: majority just to start out, because of the three appointments
Speaker 7: that Donald Trump has made in terms of Mike Waltz
Speaker 7: and you know others that are you pointed, you know,
Speaker 7: to positions within his cabinet, et cetera. So it's going
Speaker 7: to take a while to fill those congressional seats. And
Speaker 7: I just heard you say, and I've read what you
Speaker 7: said on X that you know, you're not that interested
Speaker 7: in being on any committee at all, and you while
Speaker 7: you caucus with Republicans, it's it's not that big a
Speaker 7: deal or that important to you. Why would you why
Speaker 7: would you not want to be on any committees?
Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know very well Stawan, that committee is
Speaker 4: just phraising tact checks. Unfortunately, committees are not doing the
Speaker 4: job commedians. Just you put there and we'll keep you
Speaker 4: hostage to make sure that you won'te with leadership and
Speaker 4: got to be a puppet and talking head and do
Speaker 4: your presentation. Oh if not, we will almost put you
Speaker 4: on this comedian. Then you get pack checks on far.
Speaker 7: You don't have to vote, You get to vote any
Speaker 7: way you want. And if they're going to threaten you
Speaker 7: with that, just come on this program and we'll put
Speaker 7: pressure on them not to do it. I mean, why
Speaker 7: not go on, say the House Juditionary Committee with Jim
Speaker 7: Jordan or work with you know, the people that we
Speaker 7: do know, like and trust. I mean I think there's
Speaker 7: or maybe you can work in the Ways of Means
Speaker 7: Committee and work on tax laws in this country.
Speaker 4: Well listen, unfortunately, you know, if you know what to
Speaker 4: do and if you're highly oh if I and they're
Speaker 4: not going to put your committees that matter, right, this
Speaker 4: is how this place works. You know, if you really
Speaker 4: know what you're doing, they want to put people in
Speaker 4: the committees that don't know what to do. And that's
Speaker 4: why we have a problem like that. That's why you know,
Speaker 4: I need to work with people that want to get
Speaker 4: stuffed done. And help President Trump to deliver, not to
Speaker 4: just do messaging. That's how this stuff works. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 4: things are not decided in committees. It's all presentations and showmanships.
Speaker 4: And you know it should be changed. But if we
Speaker 4: want to change it, we need to structurally change. We
Speaker 4: need to set doing authorization. I offer Speaker to set
Speaker 4: up subcommittees on authorization. We have been not over three
Speaker 4: thousand programs not authorized. We send blank checks. He doesn't
Speaker 4: want to do it. We need to have a working
Speaker 4: group to figure out some policy. He doesn't want to
Speaker 4: do it. We are so deep in the holes they
Speaker 4: need to have structural changes to get out of it,
Speaker 4: and he doesn't want to do it. So I don't
Speaker 4: need to be a talking head. If the committees don't matter,
Speaker 4: and they're going to still come all of this from
Speaker 4: a Speaker's office, don't waste my time. At least I
Speaker 4: will work with people that care and try to help
Speaker 4: them to deliver these policies for the people.
Speaker 1: Have you spoken with Speaker Johnson?
Speaker 4: Oh, I spoke many times with him. Believe me, I
Speaker 4: do a lot of conversations before I'm I make a decision,
Speaker 4: you know, And I honestly didn't plan to make a
Speaker 4: public statement. I just disagree that Republicans are not willing
Speaker 4: to govern. But unfortunately in GC everything becomes public, so
Speaker 4: I have to make a statement about that. But as
Speaker 4: my republic I'm not willing to deliri next Congress and
Speaker 4: help President Trump to deliver and help pay Can want
Speaker 4: to deliver and other appointments people. Then we are not
Speaker 4: going to be able to govern and will not be
Speaker 4: able to actually save this Republic. And they try to
Speaker 4: push this stuff like in February, you cannot do that.
Speaker 4: I tried to jump Conservatives to force a bunch of
Speaker 4: slash funds and text cuts in February so they can
Speaker 4: intimidate you with, oh, you're not going to vote for
Speaker 4: the Borda. They don't even want to support what you know.
Speaker 4: Freedom cock Is said that we need to have two
Speaker 4: separate reconciliations because we're not ready. We will not even
Speaker 4: have appointments already approved in February. We're not ready to
Speaker 4: put some policies in the code. So it has to
Speaker 4: be two reconstalliations. We have to have a plan. We
Speaker 4: cannot just overnight develop these plans, and we have to
Speaker 4: be serious about actually this plans makes sense that the
Speaker 4: good for the economy for the people.
Speaker 7: Victoria's parts, thank you so much for being with us, said,
Speaker 7: and we'll watch closely what you plan to do next.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.