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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Tuesday edition. Buck

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Speaker 1: is out until Tuesday of next week on vacation with

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Speaker 1: his family. So you got me Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: Let's hay have a good time. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: a good idea of where we're headed. Riley Gaines is

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Speaker 1: going to join us at one o'clock Eastern, about an

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Yesterday we had a conversation. Many of

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Speaker 1: you deluged us with reactions about the gender gap, and

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Speaker 1: in particular the gender gap among young people, and I

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Speaker 1: was impressed by how many young listeners called in and

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Speaker 1: cited Riley Gaines as a particularly powerful voice of a

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Speaker 1: younger generation that should be speaking out more and used

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Speaker 1: more in the Republican Party politic platform to allow her

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Speaker 1: to speak to young women who are overwhelmingly voting for

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris according to data. And so Riley's a friend.

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Speaker 1: I got her hired at OutKick because I saw the

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Speaker 1: by it. So she will be with us at one

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Speaker 1: at two. A lot of attention, as you can well imagine,

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Speaker 1: certainly on the presidential race itself between Kamala and Trump.

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Speaker 1: But don't neglect what's going on right now in the

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Speaker 1: Senate battlegrounds out there. In particular, Republicans are going to

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Speaker 1: pick up a seat in West Virginia that makes it

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Presuming Ted Cruz and Rick Scott win

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Speaker 1: in Texas and Florida, respectively, as I believe they will,

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Speaker 1: that would make it a fifty to fifty Senate. In

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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty Senate, the vice president breaks ties.

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Speaker 1: Kamala has been the vice president breaking many ties in

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Speaker 1: the Senate in the first term of Joe Biden. But

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Speaker 1: if the state of Montana, and look, there are many

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Speaker 1: other states as well, Pennsylvania with McCormick, Nevada with Brown,

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Speaker 1: But right now, Montana, with what Tim Sheehe is doing,

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Speaker 1: it looks like Montana's all of you listening to me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you guys have the power to take back

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Speaker 1: control of the Senate. So it's very important what happens

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Speaker 1: in the House. We're going to talk to Speaker of

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Speaker 1: But Senate control is out there. Bernie Marino hugely important

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Speaker 1: could be won, but right now Montana, Tim Sheehy is

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Speaker 1: winning that race. According to the polls. Trump is obviously

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Speaker 1: Bozeman a few weeks ago helping the campaign for Tim Sheehey.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Republicans are in very good shape to

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Speaker 1: take back control of the Senate. That would matter to

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into Kamala. Kamala now is in

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment to censorship, to big tech. Many of

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Speaker 1: that you don't, I came in writing about sports when

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Speaker 1: I was a young lawyer. Back in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: I was working in the United States Virgin Islands. At yes,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, I was like the Tom Cruise

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Speaker 1: But I got married, moved to the US Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 1: here in Tennessee. But I had something that's actually very

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Speaker 1: So my escape was I started about sports. That was

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Speaker 1: I was able to parlay writing into making a career,

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, after I got fired. I got fired at FanHouse.

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Speaker 1: They shut down the whole site. It wasn't anything that

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Speaker 1: I had done wrong. But not very long ago. In

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Speaker 1: That's how I started doing radio, was I'd go on

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Speaker 1: Some of you have been listening to me since then,

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Speaker 1: and I had a oh no moment. I found it OutKick,

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Speaker 1: Each time we wrote about it at OutKick, Facebook destroyed

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Speaker 1: and he said they have been looking. Jim Jordan, to

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Speaker 1: They clearly rigged what you were able to say during

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Speaker 1: verifiably accurate. Yet, according to Mark Zuckerberg, the FBI in

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Speaker 1: it actually went public. Who rigged the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. They rigged

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Speaker 2: But but Clay, understand how pervasive of this. So we

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, our ranking members of the committee

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Speaker 2: issue to report that we were Russian stooges. Okay, fast forward,

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Speaker 2: it was the intelligence community that issued the letter saying

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Speaker 2: that the laptop had all the earmarks of Russian information campaign. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's what I'm saying. This is way deeper than

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Speaker 2: just the FBI. This goes into the Intelligence Committee. They're

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Speaker 2: ties into the Democrat elected members of the Senate, who

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Speaker 2: you know, had written you know that I was so tostered.

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Speaker 2: The CIA wouldn't even brief me. No, they wouldn't brief

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Speaker 2: me a third time because they'd briefed us or a

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Speaker 2: second time. They are briefless ones and said that Andre

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Speaker 2: Telshenko is not a problem to get testimony from. So

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Speaker 2: again I'm getting into levels of detail. You don't need

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Speaker 2: to consider it. Just understand how pervasive this is. The

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Speaker 2: ties into the media, into the big tech, into Democrat

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Speaker 2: members of Congress. It was it was all orchestrays, is

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Speaker 2: all coordinated. But Sena grats that. Again, we were vilified

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Speaker 2: for the entire year of twenty twenty because we were

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Speaker 2: investigating Hunter Biden, and again we were accused of foisting

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Speaker 2: and descending Rush disinformation. Get the unscreed briefing, and then

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Speaker 2: we see what the you know, fifty one intelligence officials

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Speaker 2: did on the cusp of the election to make sure

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Speaker 2: that this thing was completely buried, just long enough so

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden got elected and the results, of course been zastus.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Zuckerberg wrote his letter? Now?

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Speaker 2: I guess they have a good time. God.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good question, right.

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Speaker 2: It's just just, you know, good work by Jim Jardin,

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Speaker 2: and he impressed this.

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying they think it's because Trump's gonna

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Speaker 1: win and Zuckerberg wants to get back on his good side.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't even focus but a lot of this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure this impacted you too. I know it

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Speaker 1: impacted us. A lot of the COVID stuff that they

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Speaker 1: were restricting, they were censoring that the Biden administration was

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Speaker 1: acting on. That's another big part of the letter. But

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Speaker 1: to me, look, that's a huge story. That standalone is

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Speaker 1: a huge story. But the rig job here, the FBI

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Speaker 1: and or other elements of our deep state telling everyone, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is Russian disinformation when they knew it was real,

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Speaker 1: is a scandal unlike anything any of us have ever

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Speaker 1: I mean to you, is this the biggest scandal you

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Speaker 1: I think they rigged it to get Biden in office. Right,

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Speaker 1: There's no way Biden gets in office if this is

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Speaker 1: covered honestly as the story it should have been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So twenty twenty, I've been saying that Russia and

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Speaker 2: China couldn't even dream of interfering on an election to

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Speaker 2: the extent that our own federal agencies did. No, this

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Speaker 2: is a huge story. This is just the most grotesque

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Speaker 2: interferencing election. And it all started with Hillary Clinton, you know,

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Speaker 2: paying for the steel dos CIA. The FBI knew that

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Speaker 2: the sub source there was somebody they were investigating, is

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Speaker 2: your Russian spy. They knew it was all BS, but

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Speaker 2: they continued, you know, started the Miller investigation again, they

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Speaker 2: put our country through a political turmoil that hasn't ended up.

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Speaker 2: And this is all caused by the deep state of

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Speaker 2: the corruption of Democrat politicians like Hillary Clinton. You know,

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Speaker 2: people in the deep state like James you know, all

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Speaker 2: the folks, you know struck In Paige and McCabe and

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Speaker 2: all those folks, and they're getting away with it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the players in it are actually on MSNBC, the pharmacy directors.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, they're they're getting with it because they

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Speaker 2: control the media, they control the narrative, and people have

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Speaker 2: to open their eyes to what is happening to our country.

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Speaker 2: And God bless Chelsea Gabbard, God bless Arcade Junior that

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Speaker 2: their eyes have been open and they're rejecting the corruption

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Speaker 2: of their former party.

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Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson. Thank you for fighting the good fight

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for highlighting.

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Speaker 1: to really kind of put a bow on this, although

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing the emails pour in a lot of you

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Speaker 1: have takes on this. Why does this matter going forward?

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Speaker 1: Why is Zuckerberg you just heard me, thanks Senator Ron

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Wisconsin. Why is he suddenly writing this letter

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Speaker 1: for Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan will join us tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: we're not going to let this story die. We'll continue

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. Two things that I think are

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Speaker 1: supremely important still. One, if they did this in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: what are they planning in twenty twenty four. They knew

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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop was one hundred percent real, and

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Speaker 1: they put in place an entire apparatus to argue that

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Speaker 1: they won't even cover it, even though Mark Zuckerberg is

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Speaker 1: writing and telling you, Oh, by the way, everything we've

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Speaker 1: been saying on this show about COVID that you weren't

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Speaker 1: allowed to say for years, Oh, they were restricting it

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Speaker 1: on Facebook, Zucker says he feels bad now. He also

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Speaker 1: said in that letter, Hey, I'm not getting involved in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election. I'm not donating any money

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Speaker 1: at all. I know it's easy to believe that these

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Speaker 1: big tech guys are evil villains. I actually think they're

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Speaker 1: by and large, incredibly socially awkward and trying to do

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Speaker 1: the best thing they can given the situation that they're in.

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Speaker 1: And I just want you to think about this. If

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Speaker 1: the FBI came to you and they did a full briefing,

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Speaker 1: and you were just a guy who ran Facebook, you

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Speaker 1: were just a guy who ran Twitter, Instagram, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and the FBI set you down and they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is some James Bond stuff. Russia is going to

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Speaker 1: put out a bunch of lies about Joe Biden. Here's

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Speaker 1: what this story is going to look like. We're taking

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Speaker 1: you behind the curtain and showing you how how espionage

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Speaker 1: really works. The hairs on your arm would probably stand up,

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Speaker 1: because we've all been preconditioned to think about the intelligence

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Speaker 1: industry in that way. CIA, FBI all of these things,

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Speaker 1: and they told you, Hey, they've got a whole fake

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Speaker 1: that Bereisma has been paying Hunter Biden. There's all these

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Speaker 1: fake emails. They even may have created a laptop. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to rig the election with it. If they told

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Speaker 1: the New York Post story, pop, wouldn't your initial thought be, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness. The FBI was right. They knew exactly what

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Speaker 1: was coming. So it's a blame shifting to be angry

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Speaker 1: at Facebook and be angry at Twitter. The government did this,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like the crazy guy standing in front

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Speaker 1: of the board pointing to all the different lines, you know,

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Speaker 1: the meme that you see. But again, facts matter here.

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Speaker 1: The FBI has had the Hunter Biden laptop since December

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Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. By the summer and fall of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and they intentionally lied to all of these big tech

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Speaker 1: had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Nobody paid a

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Speaker 1: promoted into positions of higher power. And to a large extent,

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Speaker 1: this is crazy stuff. If you read the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: in the Washington Post, you watch CBSNBCABC, you have no

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Speaker 1: It's not just in what they cover that the media

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Speaker 1: power exists. It's in what they choose to ignore. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of people miss that second part. They're just

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Speaker 1: pretending this doesn't exist. Think about the way that they

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Speaker 1: built that into Russia, installed Trump, all of the Russia

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Speaker 1: We bought Facebook ads. Every media company on Earth has

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Speaker 1: You bought Facebook, Google to Twitter ads, whatever they are.

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Speaker 1: You know how much money you have to spend tens

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Speaker 1: The Trump and Kamala campaigns are going to spend hundreds

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Speaker 1: of millions of dollars and it's not going to move

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Speaker 1: the upper end rigged the twenty sixteen election. Meanwhile, they

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Speaker 1: Nobody's been held accountable, and scarily, we don't even know

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Speaker 1: who the person was that caused this code read to

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