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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and boy. Here in

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Speaker 3: Western New York. It is a good day to be

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Speaker 3: a duck.

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Speaker 2: It is teeming outside. I might have to go home

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Speaker 2: after work today in a canoe. I mean, it is

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Speaker 2: just coming down in sheets right now.

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Speaker 4: And we've got a wind advisory. Do you ever lose

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Speaker 4: shingles off your house?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: It happened. Twenty seventeen was the last time it happened.

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Speaker 3: That happens.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately enough enough of them came off where I was

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Speaker 2: able to file and insurance that right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, well unlike you, I just got a

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Speaker 4: guy like it happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh I had to get it, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know how the you're certain house, your

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Speaker 4: house is situated, and the thing the trees come down

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Speaker 4: and all that, and it was weird because it's weird

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Speaker 4: because now I just call the guy, say hey, did

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Speaker 4: you come over and you can't you know, the house,

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Speaker 4: the roof, some parts of the hat. You gotta get

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Speaker 4: outside and walk around the thing. Steve Pitch, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I got a couple of shingling. Here's I'll be over.

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Speaker 4: He comes over and he because, listen, I can't get

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Speaker 4: up there. That's a that's a I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 4: This time's death wish going up on my roof for me.

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Speaker 4: So he comes over, shimmy's up. I mean it's like

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Speaker 4: he's he's like a monkey, right, Yeah, some guys are

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: He just does it, and I hope he's not listening.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what he charged him get, just do

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Speaker 4: it for me, please.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that.

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Speaker 2: Like people down in Pennsylvania and even in the southern

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Speaker 2: tier here in the Amish community, they get hired a

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Speaker 2: lot for a lot of those roofing jobs.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: And uh, there's this comedian Pete Corielli. He's actually based

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Speaker 2: down in Dunkirk. He lives down in Dunkirk and he

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Speaker 2: a couple of his Show's Funny Guy, and he has

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Speaker 2: this great bit where he talks about this this Amish

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Speaker 2: gentleman who he had as his roofer because he couldn't

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Speaker 2: get anybody to do his roof. He's got like an

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Speaker 2: old turn of the century house. Three floors. It's got

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Speaker 2: like two different roofs on it, and people like, people

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Speaker 2: come to that. Yeah, I'm not getting up there, he said,

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Speaker 2: it's too steep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he drives this guy to his house and all

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Speaker 2: he's got is one ladder at the house. So he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I only have one ladder. That's not a problem,

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Speaker 2: takes the ladder, climbs up to the first grabs the ladder, yanks.

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Speaker 3: It up to the second floor, throws it on the

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Speaker 3: next ring. Zoom, me's up to the third floor. He goes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can do this. That is just that my bag.

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Speaker 4: I tell people. Now, all the young people and stuff

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Speaker 4: you go to you know, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: Go to college, get a liberal arts degree. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you should just be an electricians.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people they need a lot of people

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Speaker 2: in the trades. Be an electrician or a really good

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Speaker 2: limber or something.

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Speaker 4: Man, you come out by the time your classmates come

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Speaker 4: out of college, they got a couple hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: in student debt. You're already making six or a file. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the same age.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that are needed in the trades.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, dude, and I am.

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Speaker 2: I salute those people because I got our society doesn't

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Speaker 2: function without right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even got so lucky playing pro football. Right.

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Speaker 4: If if I hadn't, I would have had to be

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Speaker 4: an electrician. Maybe an electrician that's a little too dangerous

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Speaker 4: for me. Plumber, Steve Right, I'd be dead plumber. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I could have done. But if i'd had like a

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Speaker 4: ten year apprenticeship.

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Speaker 3: You know, you would have got it.

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Speaker 4: I probably would have finally figured it out. But there's

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Speaker 4: no way I'm gonna I just got lucky. I got you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta salute those people because they kind of make our society.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, man, those those people show

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Speaker 4: up at I don't really say, hey, how are you

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Speaker 4: doing good to me? You know, and they're like that,

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Speaker 4: so thank you so much, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: showing up at my house. Particularly if they show up

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Speaker 4: and they're on time, and they're like, yes, sir, I

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Speaker 4: got it. You know, like one of those guys, oh

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Speaker 4: what's your give me your number? Going in my favorites

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Speaker 4: list on my phone.

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Speaker 3: Their service is underrated. Oh my god, definitely. Uh.

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Speaker 2: We are here, however to talk football with you, and

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Speaker 2: boy was it an interesting Monday night game last night.

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Speaker 2: The weather we're experiencing here in western New York was

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Speaker 2: apparently in Kansas City last night. It turned into a

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Speaker 2: slog as the field conditions were suspect, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: What is it about Kansas City, Steve? With this weather

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Speaker 3: they seemed to get for all these games The Bills,

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Speaker 3: as we remember not long ago, had that big lightning

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Speaker 3: delay there with some fierce weather passing through. Talk to

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Speaker 4: Let me just tell you this. First of all, it's

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Speaker 4: like the nine billionth Kansas City game and airhead we've

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Speaker 4: all watched. Yeah, right, so they never play anyplace else.

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Speaker 4: I never see Kansas City on the road.

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Speaker 2: It's like they have a Las Vegas residency, right, Like

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Speaker 2: they're just in Kansas City, come by us.

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Speaker 4: The casino built them a stadium and everything. Right, they

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Speaker 4: come in, they play a few slots, they go watch

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs. They're in residency. Yeah, so first there's that.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, it gets in Kansas and I grew up

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Speaker 3: We're asking the expert here.

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Speaker 4: If they were in the other end of the state,

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Speaker 4: they'd never have a range if they put that thing out.

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Speaker 4: In western Kansas, they get about two inches of rain

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Speaker 4: a year. I mean, it's a veritable desert out there.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: But it gets really cold out there, really cold. So

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Speaker 4: this this rain stuff happened in Kansas City is like,

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Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: You can't contrast to what.

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Speaker 4: Yes grew up. You can't buy a rainstorm out there.

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Speaker 3: They're at Lake the foot of the Rockies, well not

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Speaker 4: A three hour drive and then you can kind of

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Speaker 4: it's barren. It's like Fargo out there until tumbleweeds, and yes,

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Speaker 4: up that thing. But most Kansas people would pay good

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. The Eagles win, but not in impressive fashion.

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Speaker 2: Seventy eight net yards of offense in the first half

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Speaker 2: for the Eagles Steve and seventy of them came on

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Speaker 2: their one touchdown drive. And then second half Philly defense

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Speaker 2: with two red zone takeaways. But Jalen Hurts wins this

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards passing and an interception.

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Speaker 4: I mean him do much Philly out together. And this

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Speaker 4: play that we're watching here, AJ Brown, did you see

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Speaker 4: the interception?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown? The guy got up A J. Brown wrenched

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Speaker 4: the ball away from it. They totally blew that. That

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Speaker 4: should have been Philly ball.

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Speaker 2: How different is that from a forward progress on Rasoul Douglas?

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Speaker 3: All right, I mean down by contact. Oh no, I

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Speaker 3: mean forward progress.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's an epidemic across this league, the officiating

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Speaker 3: Epidemic they are officiating.

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Speaker 4: Brownie's alluding to the officiating crew for the Bills game

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Speaker 4: this last week in Orchard Park that it's a first

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Speaker 4: year head official. But don't kid yourself now, it's not

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Speaker 4: a bunch of new guys. The official is in his

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Speaker 4: first year as a head official, but he's been an

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Speaker 4: official on the field for eight years and he's got

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Speaker 4: a bunch of veteran guys on that crew. That's the

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Speaker 4: way the league does it. They give a new official,

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Speaker 4: old codgers that do it, but to support them. Their

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Speaker 4: game management was horrific in Orchard Park and the last

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Speaker 4: night there was a couple of things like that as

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Speaker 4: well in the chief In the Chiefs Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Game, Yeah, it was something I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: Fireworks.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs you could argue should have won if Mark Wesvelde

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Speaker 2: is Scantling comes down with the bomb from Mahomes, that's

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Speaker 2: right in his hands, with a minute and half right

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Speaker 2: in his hands. I mean the Chiefs are suffering from

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Speaker 2: a problem the Bills suffered from last year drops drops.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs lead the league in drops. They have twenty

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Speaker 2: six steve through ten games played twenty six in ten games.

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Speaker 2: The Bills were second in the league last year with

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Speaker 2: thirty two at the end of the season. Now the

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Speaker 2: Bills only played sixteen games and we're still second in

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Speaker 2: the league in drops.

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Speaker 3: But they're on pace to shatter that.

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Speaker 6: Mark.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that we said all offseason. I could remember

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Speaker 4: the two things we were saying, but it was turnovers,

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Speaker 4: which the Bills haven't fixed yet, and drops. If we

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Speaker 4: said if we cut those two numbers in half, the

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Speaker 4: Bills would be virtually unbeatable. They have not cut both

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Speaker 4: of them in half. The drops are way better. The

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Speaker 4: drops are down, The drops are way better. The turnovers

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Speaker 4: are not. Although you know they did a good job

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Speaker 4: this last week.

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Speaker 2: They did so with this game playing out the way

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Speaker 2: it did, Eagles not looking impressive, offense looking like it's

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Speaker 2: got some issues for the Chiefs. We're asking you at

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Speaker 2: eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty, what are your thoughts after

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Speaker 2: watching the Eagles beat the Chiefs, Whether you want to

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Speaker 2: apply it to Sunday's game against the Eagles, whether you

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Speaker 2: want to apply it to Buffalo's Week fourteen game against

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs coming up after the buye, or whether you

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Speaker 2: want to assess just what these two teams are going forward.

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Speaker 2: You let us know at aight O three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 2: the number to get on board.

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Speaker 3: We've got open lines for you there.

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Speaker 2: What you can do is you can even say, well

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Speaker 2: by let us know how you feel about the Bills

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Speaker 2: after watching the Eagles and the Chiefs knowing they got

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Speaker 2: to play them the next two weeks, So give us

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Speaker 2: kind of what your takeaway was after watching that game

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Speaker 2: last night and how you feel it could impact the

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Speaker 3: What do you got first? Chris?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how you guys doing?

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Speaker 3: Do it right?

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, thanks Chris?

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Speaker 4: Right, this team can beat anybody on any Sunday, no

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Speaker 4: If they do that, they can beat anybody, and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 2: Let's uh go to Kevin in Hamburg next. Kevin, what

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Speaker 10: Particularly call sure. What I want to say is, after

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Speaker 4: Okay, both I think both teams expect a real grinder,

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Speaker 3: There is a small part of me that is glad

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Speaker 2: You don't need them coming back home all ornery about

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Speaker 4: of weeks ago, good teams don't lose two in a row,

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Speaker 4: and having Philly win against Kansas City kind of said

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Speaker 4: she said, Okay, maybe maybe we've got a better chance

444
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Speaker 4: in this in this game, because it's human nature. When

445
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Speaker 4: you go in and lose a game, you kind of

446
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 4: you kind of go to dig deeper the next week,

447
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: you prepare more diligently. Uh, these guys have got a cushion,

448
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, certainly Detroit is chasing him, but

449
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: Dallas is two games behind him, Dallas seven and three.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Philly's got a wide margin of error, and

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Speaker 4: Dallas is the fifth seed in the conference. They're like

452
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Speaker 4: the best team out of everybody left outside because they're

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Speaker 4: in the same division. It's Detroit, Dallas, and Philly and

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Speaker 4: everybody else in San Francisco. Everybody else is five and

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Speaker 4: five or worse, six and four. I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, New Orleans, you're an NFC South leader at

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Speaker 3: five and five.

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Speaker 4: Philly's got a wide margin of error here.

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Speaker 3: Well, not wide because you got Detroit a game back

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Speaker 3: for the top seed.

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Speaker 2: They're a game back. Yeah, that's not a wide margin

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Speaker 2: with six to play.

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Speaker 4: It's not a white Let me just yeah, and I

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Speaker 4: get this seven to play. Detroit's playing, you know, the

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Speaker 4: twentieth place schedule like they always do. But they got

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Speaker 4: the Packers next, then the Saints and the.

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Speaker 3: Bears play schedule. You are harsh man, No mercy for

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Speaker 3: the Lions. The n.

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Speaker 4: Atrocity, Yeah, what do we call it?

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Speaker 3: What do you call it? The dumpster division?

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Speaker 4: Dumpster garbage? It's garbage. And you got the Bears in

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Speaker 4: there twice.

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Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, I know the.

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Speaker 4: Bears are still. Yeah, the Bear's still.

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Speaker 2: The NFC picture is is much different than the AFC picture,

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Speaker 2: which is far more jumbled. The best team in the

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Speaker 2: conference in the AFC has three losses. Why because the

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Speaker 2: conference is better top to bottom, end of sort. It's

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Speaker 2: a Yeah, it's a meat grinder. They have seaism. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're making sausage over here, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Eagles got a dose of it last night. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the phones into Jack and kenmore.

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Speaker 6: What do you got for us, Jack, Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: I just doing today. I hope you're doing fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hanging in there.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I thought i'd seen tree line deckers on the

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Speaker 6: field Sunday at the same time. Okay, I want your

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Speaker 6: opinion about that. I have no doubt now on my

490
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Speaker 6: mind that we cannot beat I think we could beat

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Speaker 6: Kansas City. And the other thing is too that that

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Speaker 6: pump fake Listen does special teams. Floss should be fired

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Speaker 6: over that. I don't know why he's still not fired.

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Speaker 6: And we won the game, and mister fourteen didn't do

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Speaker 6: nothing on the field. Run around that they doubled them

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Speaker 6: or one ever. Okay, have a.

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Speaker 3: Great day, all right, Jack, appreciate that. Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean they got bamboozled on the fake. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Siran Neil turned his back, you know, to the ball

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Speaker 2: and Steve you can speak to the technique better than

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Speaker 2: I can as to how you kind of be mindful

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Speaker 2: of a potential fake while still serving as a jammer,

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Speaker 2: which is what saran Neil was doing on the play.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to that, just addressing your other issues.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Khalil Shakir play happens or

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Speaker 2: the Ty Johnson play happens unless Stefan Diggs is got

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Speaker 2: two guys on him. So by attracting that attention, it

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Speaker 2: affords opportunities for other players within the scope of your offense.

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Speaker 2: So you may not be impressed with what Stefan Diggs

510
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Speaker 2: did on the stat sheet, but he most definitely had

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Speaker 2: an impact on the game and how it unfolded against

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Speaker 2: the Jets. I don't think there's any question about that.

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Speaker 2: So don't just look at the hard numbers, look at

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Speaker 2: the game and totality and realize that the attention that

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Speaker 2: the Jets were paying to Digs was part and parcel

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Speaker 2: why other guys got opportunities with the football in their hands.

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Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, there's no way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a hard and fast rule that

519
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Speaker 2: n he only had four catches in doing anything.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way in football.

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Speaker 4: Every team's different, But there are some stuff you can

522
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Speaker 4: look to and say, listen, when you play a good defense,

523
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Speaker 4: they're good because they're able to take away what you

524
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Speaker 4: do best. Steph Diggs is one of those things for

525
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Speaker 4: the Jets and the Bills and the Jets. The Jets

526
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Speaker 4: did a nice job on Digs. They got a really

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Speaker 4: good corner and Sauce Gardner gave him some help. And

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Speaker 4: if you look on social media, there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: instances where Sauce was just hugging him. He wouldn't let

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Speaker 4: him go.

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Speaker 3: He got called for two penalties in the game.

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Speaker 4: So you can thank Steph Diggs for that. Also, the

533
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Speaker 4: three linebackers on the field, Yeah, you did see three

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Speaker 4: linebackers on the field for Buffalo and base we talked

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Speaker 4: about a little bit and I haven't gone back in Stay,

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Speaker 4: so I'm I'm just saying some theories here. When you

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Speaker 4: have Tarren Johnson and Dane Jackson and Taylor Rapp go down,

538
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: you really you're looking for some help, and so they

539
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: might they they might have started to make some adjustments

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Speaker 4: personnel wise because of the fact they had some injuries

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Speaker 4: in the secondary and they wanted to give, you know,

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Speaker 4: give a different look because of that. So I can't

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it's a philosophical shift where now

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Speaker 4: they're going to start playing base defense or have three

545
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Speaker 4: linebackers on the field, But I think it was at

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Speaker 4: least in some part reaction to the injuries they took

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Speaker 4: in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: They brought a third linebacker on every time the Jets

549
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Speaker 2: jumped into thirteen personnel, they ran a half dozen plays

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Speaker 2: where they went three tight ends or at tackle eligible

551
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: and two tight ends. So anytime thirteen personnel came on

552
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: the field, for the Jets, Dorian Williams was running out

553
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: there and Taron Johnson was coming off. So that's why

554
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: you saw three linebackers in most cases. But there may

555
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: have been a couple of instances to Steve's point where

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Speaker 2: you know that occurred as well because of the injury

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00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: losses in the secondary. Now, what about the technique for

558
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: a jammer, well, in guarding against a fake if there

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Speaker 2: is one, there may not even be one.

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Speaker 4: You played different if you expect a fake, and they

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Speaker 4: you know through film study, the Jets probably said, listen,

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Speaker 4: when they get into this near single covered out there,

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00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: they've got their guys with their eyes in the in

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Speaker 4: the backfield. And that's what that's what Saran did. He

565
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: backpedaled out of there, was kind of running sideways with

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Speaker 4: his eyes on the punter, and then the and the

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Speaker 4: dB and the receiver of the gunner kept stayed in

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Speaker 4: Sarand's vision and made him feel complacent. Says, okay, here

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Speaker 4: we go, and then the kid snapped it off to

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Speaker 4: the sideline behind him when the and the punter stepped

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Speaker 4: up and made a nice row. It's a it's a

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00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 4: nice fake, no question, you gotta be on it. If

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Speaker 4: you're gonna run that kind of return. Yeah, you're at

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Speaker 4: risk for a fake fake punt. The only way not

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Speaker 4: to get taken by it is if you're doubling team

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Speaker 4: on those gunners. And I think one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: they didn't is because they were going to try and

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Speaker 4: pressure the punter and get a bad punt out of it,

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00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: so they only had single coverage out there. You can

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Speaker 4: bet other teams have had that in the game plan

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Speaker 4: and didn't feel the need to use it. You can

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Speaker 4: say what you want about coaching over the last couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks or whatever, and it seems easy to say

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: it now, but you've got to be aware of where

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: you're at in this game. And when you get into

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00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: a game like this against a team like the Jets,

587
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: who is were absolutely desperate. They can't get anything going offensively,

588
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: they're struggling to do anything, you got to be aware

589
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: that they need stuff like that to win, and you

590
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: got you gotta be on your on your toes. Teams

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Speaker 4: like Kansas City don't do that because they don't need that.

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna run a fake punt on a fourth

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Speaker 4: and five because they got Pat Mahomes coming in. They

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Speaker 4: you know they don't think you can outscore them anyway

595
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: if they do punt three times in the game. Teams

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Speaker 4: like the Jets, teams like Chicago, teams like you know, Arizona,

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Speaker 4: they'll pull that stuff out because they gotta figure out

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Speaker 4: a way to stay on the field offensively. And that's

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00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: where you got to You gotta know, you gotta be

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Speaker 4: aware of that.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, But more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return with that game. Tell you about

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Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Chiefs last night, knowing they're each

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Speaker 2: of Buffalo's next two opponents, you let us know at

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Speaker 2: eight h three oh five fifty more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls next year on One Bill's Live forres anybody collid

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Speaker 2: of health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday, asking for your thoughts after watching the Eagles

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Speaker 2: defeat the Chiefs either on those two teams, how the

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Bills may match up against those two guys.

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Speaker 3: Knowing that those are the next two opponents for Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: You let us know at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty to

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Speaker 2: Jeff in Buffalo next, what do you got, Jeff?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, good rushers for some of these calls. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: hey real quick to my point, Brandon Bean, Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: the Bill's front office, and if I could just pick

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Speaker 5: your brain a little bit, But this is how I

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Speaker 5: feel about it. I mean, yes, Josh Allen drey or

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Speaker 5: a draft pick was was great. But beyond that, if

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Speaker 5: you look at this team and some of the players

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Speaker 5: and some of the moves that they make, it seems

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Speaker 5: like our pro personnel is a lot more in tune

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: to what's going on than our college scouting. And why

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: I say that is because if you look at the

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Speaker 5: Digs thing that worked out pretty nice, this latest trade,

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Speaker 5: and the von Miller thing, Sam as a free agent.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at like our team and how

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Speaker 5: it's built and going on next year, and I'll answer

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Speaker 5: your question, I think they lose the next two games

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Speaker 5: and then we're talking about stuff like this. So what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying is next year they've got they're in a

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: world of hurt when it comes to salaries and where

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00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 5: they're going to be and von Miller and his output

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Speaker 5: and how he's going to be healthier and not going

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00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: to be healthy. Is there a chance do you see

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Speaker 5: a way or do you see like a von Miller

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00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: departing or I know he's under contract, but whether it

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00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: be retiring or something like that, because going forward next year,

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00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 5: and I know nobody wants to think about this, but

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00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: if they do lose out and they don't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: we're we're going to be scratching our head and they're

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Speaker 5: going to go, how are we going to keep all

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00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: these players? And there's players like Leonard Floyd and stuff

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00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: like that who do deserve another contract. One more thing,

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Speaker 5: why do we sign players like Fournette? Other teams get

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Speaker 5: them on the field and it takes us three four

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Speaker 5: week We have a good.

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Speaker 3: Day, guys, all right, bet, thanks Jeff. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff to unpack there.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think von Miller is going

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Speaker 2: anywhere next year. The reason why is his cap hit

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Speaker 2: on the salary cap for the Bills next year is

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Speaker 2: seven point nine million dollars, so not a problem. What

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Speaker 2: is a problem is his dead cap hit, which would

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Speaker 2: be forty million if they threw him overboard. So he's

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Speaker 2: not going anywhere just by virtue of the financials or

659
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Next year, I'm looking at twenty twenty three.

660
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Next year cap hit twenty three point eight. That's a

661
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: fat number, but his dead cap hit is nine million

662
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: more than that. It's thirty two to five. So if

663
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: you're tight against the cap, you're not throwing a guy

664
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: overboard to cost you nine more million dollars. It just

665
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: doesn't make financial sense. So, even though the numbers aren't great,

666
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: I think he's here next year.

667
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: After that, there.

668
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Isn't out in the contract, So you want to talk

669
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: about him not being here in twenty twenty five, that

670
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: is a possibility. Next year probably not, And we touched

671
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: on this yesterday, Steve. I think there will be more

672
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: turnover than usual next year because of the cap implications

673
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: that he mentioned, and because you got some players that

674
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 2: are a little longer in the tooth, and you have

675
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: to have a new influx of youth at several positions.

676
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: And I think, well, you got to remember, we haven't

677
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: been through this in a long long time. But with

678
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: you've got a guy like Josh Allen who's still at

679
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: at the peak of his abilities, you can kind of

680
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: rebuild like the Chiefs have been able to do. You

681
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: do it on the fly. Certainly you've got to hit

682
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: on some draft picks. And we've been over this a

683
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 4: million times. Everybody's like, well you missed on what Kyri

684
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: Elam can't get on the field, and Cody Ford and

685
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: whoever else you want to you know, mention you, Brandon

686
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: Bean is right on par with the best gms out there.

687
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: The higher you pick, the better your rate is. And

688
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: the lower you pick everybody the same thing.

689
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: The lower your rate is the guy hasn't missed on

690
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: a first round pick. You can say what you want

691
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: about Kyrie Elam. I still think he's going to have

692
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: a good and successful career. I just think there are

693
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: circumstances at work there that are compromising that, or at

694
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: least his opportunities on the field. But I don't think

695
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: that he hasn't missed on a first round pick as not.

696
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't. Yeah, next year's next year.

697
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: This year, I mean, yeah, Leonard Fournette notwithstanding, I mean

698
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: Rasull Douglas. They did a pretty good job getting him acclimated.

699
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 4: And I think they're run I think they're really happy

700
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: with where their running backs are at now. But I

701
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: think one thing that this team does that goes under

702
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: the radar, and they say it and nobody believes it.

703
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: And I think they think Leondard Fournette can really play.

704
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: I think they really do. But one of the reasons

705
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean brings them in here is say, listen, pick

706
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: it up, Latavious James Cook, Ty Johnson, pick it up,

707
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: because we got this guy here. Now, we're not getting

708
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: enough out of you guys.

709
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: They churned the bottom of the roster constantly. They've done

710
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: it ever since they've been here. And it's done sometimes

711
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: not so much as to get the player they just

712
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: signed on the field, but to.

713
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 3: Get more out of the guys that are already here.

714
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: Competition breeds tension, and you need you need these guys.

715
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: You know that the baby take it out of gear.

716
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: If they're not getting a line share the reps, then

717
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: they kind of like, okay, I'm just gonna you know,

718
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: and out of Ty Johnson. Look this way, Ty Johnson

719
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: did not take it out of gear. He put it

720
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: in gear, uh and and played well doing it.

721
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: So and I and I think Ty Johnson's gonna keep

722
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: letting and Jette on the practice squad if he keeps

723
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: playing like that.

724
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: Right well, and he should I mean, what are you

725
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: talking about. So they're not They signed players, get the

726
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: best players possible on their roster, and there's nothing that

727
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: says they can't get to the end of this year.

728
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: Ty Johnson goes as Merry Way and Leonard Fournette says,

729
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 4: you know what, I want to stay here. I want

730
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: to I wanna stick aroun. I'm gonna sign another deal.

731
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 4: Get guys into the building. Let him get out a

732
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: climated let him start to like it here in the

733
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: culture and how everybody's treated, and the and the the

734
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: competition in the in the room, and the ability with

735
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: Josh and McDermott and this defense. They they've got it

736
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 4: going on over here. So get him a chance to

737
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 4: look at it and say, yeah, I will stick around

738
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: for another year. Maybe Leonard Floyd will do that. I

739
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: don't know if he will or not, because that guy

740
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: is gonna command to make some minke. So you got

741
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: all that going on. It's not always just as simple

742
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 4: as we sign a guy because we think he's better

743
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: than anybody on our team. That's probably not the case

744
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: in most cases. If the guy's on the street in

745
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: September and October, there's a reason it's either his choice

746
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: or every other team in the league's choice that he's

747
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: not signed.

748
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: And not for nothing. It's easier to find a player

749
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: that has pro experience that you can see on the

750
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: field and watch his tape at the pro level to

751
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: pick him as a fit for your team than it

752
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: is to draft somebody. The draft is always more of

753
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: a projection than a player with pro experience. So to

754
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 2: get for the For you to say, well, the pro

755
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: personnel department does a better job than the college personnel

756
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: department is a little it's apples and oranges because you

757
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: already have a working set of evidence as to what

758
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 2: that player is going to be at the pro level,

759
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: So determining how he would assimilate and fit on your

760
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: team is much easier than having a college player and

761
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: projecting him to your team. One is much more difficult

762
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: than the other. And I really think it's apples and oranges.

763
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a fair comparison.

764
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's not. Well, you can compare the results, but

765
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: the problem is getting a kid to go from college

766
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: to the pros is an enormous jump. You're on your own,

767
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 4: You're you're not you got to do your own meals,

768
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: find your own place to live. You got to, you know,

769
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: give your own you move to a new city, you

770
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: don't have any friends, perhaps.

771
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Well, and there's more stuff, and there's more development on

772
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 2: the on the part of the coaching staff to get

773
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: him ready to play.

774
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: You're in a team where everybody is the best player

775
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: you've ever played against or with every guy not. You

776
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: don't have twenty five walk ons that are walking around

777
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: his dental students taking up space. These guys are all pros,

778
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: and there's eighty five of them in training camp. When

779
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: you get there as a it's a big jump, and

780
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: you don't know how every guy's gonna take that. How

781
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: every guy's gonna handle it, If he's gonna have his

782
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: stuff together? Is personal life off the field where he

783
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: does he's he's not, you know, living in a car,

784
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 4: living in a cardboard box. I mean, you got this's

785
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 4: a huge question for these young guys. So it's hard

786
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: to project, like Brownie said, because there's so many more

787
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 4: moving parts.

788
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but Jim and Williamsville will

789
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: lead us off, along with others holding an eight h

790
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: three more phone calls next here on One Bill's Live

791
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: stay tuned.

792
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: All right back here on one Bill's Live.

793
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: I want to get right back to the phones and

794
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: we go to Jim and Williamsville to lead us off.

795
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: What do you got for Jim?

796
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing well?

797
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 12: Hey?

798
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 13: Before I before I make my point about a concern

799
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 13: I have in next week's game against the Eagles, I

800
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 13: have to address the caller before last on his comment

801
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 13: about Diggs. I think it's absolutely hilarious that he had

802
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 13: the audacity to criticize Diggs for what he does in

803
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 13: the football field. I don't know, to be honest with you,

804
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 13: he may want to look in the mirror and see

805
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 13: if he has possibly some other issues. But in that event,

806
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 13: I digress. So anyway, next week, I'm a bit concerned

807
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 13: about Spencer Brown and how he's going to fare against

808
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 13: the son Reddick. That guy's got some speed. Honestly, it

809
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 13: reminded me of a younger Von Miller, at least with

810
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 13: the speed aspect of his game. Anyway, I know there's

811
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 13: ways to handle that to a degree, but I'll hang

812
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 13: up and listen.

813
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, It's a valid concern, Jim, and I would

814
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: say the main reason why, And look, I'll be first

815
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: to tell you Spencer Brown might be having his best

816
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: season in a Bill's uniform this year.

817
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: I mean he's really been.

818
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: He's smoothed out the inconsistencies that sometimes have troubled him

819
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: week to week to week to week. On wheel week

820
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: he would play really, really well and in the next

821
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: week he would be a little uneven with his play.

822
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: You have not seen that this year for the most part.

823
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: And I will tell you though, that the kind of

824
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Russia that Hassan Reddick is is the one that has

825
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: historically given Spencer Brown problems because he's so tall and long.

826
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: A shorter, bendier player can get underneath his arms, underneath

827
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: his shoulder, and those are the guys that do give

828
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown problems. You're right, there are ways to handle

829
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: that if you feel he needs some help. But in

830
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: all fairness, Spencer Brown has had maybe his most consistent

831
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: season to date this season.

832
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 4: And there's no question all the way across the front,

833
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: Phillis defense is top notch. Yeah, they're stating down inside

834
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: and on the edge standing secondly good, They are really good,

835
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a big job for the Bills

836
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: offensive line. But when in its current state, I'll put

837
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: these I'll put the Bills five against you know, anybody

838
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: to do as well as any other offensive line is

839
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: done this year. So you're right. I think it falls

840
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: squarely on the offensive line to play really well against

841
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: a really good Philly front, force them to do some

842
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: things defensively that they're not used to doing, to get

843
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: pass pressure, uh, to stop the run to everything. This

844
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 4: is These kind of games are where your offensive line

845
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: really needs does need to show up. And you know

846
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily start and stop with Spencer Brown. It's

847
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: all the way across all five of them. Yeah, because

848
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: their defensive tackles are outstanding as well.

849
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phones into Kevin in Michigan.

850
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: What do you got Kevin?

851
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 14: Hey, how are you guys doing today? If you're taking

852
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 14: my call?

853
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 15: Sure, I have a question about Josh Allen for you guys. Actually,

854
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 15: going back to Fridays broadcast, she had Craig Gusella and

855
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 15: he was talking about Josh being a playmaker more than

856
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 15: like a precision passer. And I also get that sense.

857
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 15: And I always thought Josh had another level to get to,

858
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 15: and I thought that level was getting.

859
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 14: To incorporating the precision type passing like l Tom Brady.

860
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 14: You know, three stumps back, get the ball out, by

861
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 14: steps back, get the ball out. Can you just tell

862
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 14: me your thoughts on that, Yeah, let me know what

863
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 14: you think.

864
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 3: I don't.

865
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't think, Kevin, if you want Josh Allen to

866
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: be Tom Brady, you're going to be disappointed because they

867
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: are far different skill sets. I mean, tom Brady used

868
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: subtle movement in the pocket to buy time and deliver

869
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: a football from the pocket. Josh Allen might be the

870
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: best athlete in the entire league, and the things that

871
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: he can do on a football field physically are just

872
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: not in Tom Brady's skill set, so they will never

873
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: look the same ever. And Josh, because of what he

874
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: can do off script outside the pocket, extending plays makes

875
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: him a completely different player for your offense. And so

876
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: to expect the high efficiency, you know, seventy percent completion,

877
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: operate within play structure, three steps foot in the ground,

878
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: ball out every single time, that's not who he is.

879
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: Tua Tongue of Ioloa is more like Tom Brady than

880
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: Josh Allen will ever be. And that's not an insult

881
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: to Josh Allen, because Josh Allen's a freaking unicorn. So

882
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: you can do more things because of the skill set

883
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: that Josh Allen possesses to win a football game than

884
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady. The difference is Tom Brady was extraordinarily

885
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: good in the only way that he could win football games,

886
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: which was from the pocket. Josh Allen can beat you

887
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: a multitude.

888
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: Of ways, yes, And that's exactly right. Tom Brady was

889
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: so good from the pocket, that's all he ever had

890
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: to do. Josh is so good. I mean, you go

891
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: back and look at games that Josh played in, and

892
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: the one that always comes to mind was the game

893
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: that you and I just both looked at each other

894
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: and decided that we had that was the guy. It

895
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: was the last game of the regular season in Miami,

896
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 4: his I think his rookie season. It was a twenty

897
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: nineteen eighteen, Yes, his rookie season, and he absolutely put

898
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 4: the entire organization on his shoulders and almost and single

899
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: handedly won the game except for a drop pass at

900
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: the end of the game. That's the kind of guy

901
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: Josh is. And in this day and age, it's wrong.

902
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: I think it's it's pointless to compare Josh Allen to

903
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 4: Tom Brady or Josh Allen to Pat Mahomes or Josh Allen,

904
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert or Kyler Murray or Tua any of those guys.

905
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: These teams, and I don't know whether it's human dynamics

906
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: or whether it's a conscious effort. You recognize the quarterbacks

907
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: by their personalities because their personalities come out on the field,

908
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: and that the whole team is built around that. It

909
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: seems like, right, Mahomes is all he can make every

910
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: other kind of play. So they got guys that are

911
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: running all over the field and he's throwing it sideways

912
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: and he's shot putting it last night for a touchdown

913
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: after he scrambles a little bit. And these teams, offenses

914
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: kind of take the personality of the abilities of their quarterback.

915
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 4: They have space for quarterbacks to make plays outside the pocket,

916
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: or they don't. The Patriots never did because the ball

917
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: was never was never in the pocket, was gone. Justin Herbert,

918
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: that guy runs maybe once in a while, but he's

919
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 4: got an arm and these he throws it from the pocket.

920
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: Isler Murray's helter skeltering around at there. You know, Lamar Jackson,

921
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: same thing. They got a run game, he runs it.

922
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: They got designed runs. The whole offense is structured around

923
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 4: the skill set of their quarterback. So it's really pointless

924
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: to compare these guys like that because they're all different.

925
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here because we got dan Orlowski

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Speaker 2: coming up next ESPN NFL analyst, He makes his weekly

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Speaker 2: Buffalo dot Com. Well, Dan, it seems each week we

937
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: bridge our previous conversation with the current one, and I'm

938
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Speaker 2: going to do it here with this first question for you.

939
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: We talked last week about motion with a purpose, and

940
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: I think we witness that to a great degree Sunday

941
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: against the Jets with Joe Brady calling the game for Buffalo.

942
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: Would you agree.

943
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 16: One hundred percent. You saw it all over I think

944
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 16: eighteen times, and I think it's important to understand this.

945
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 16: So Number one, when using because a lot of times

946
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 16: and I can even fall into the trap of it

947
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 16: we just say, well, use motion more. Okay, So let's

948
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 16: talk about that even deeper. So one, when using motion,

949
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 16: there always has to be an intention behind the motion,

950
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 16: and I think the intention falls into one of two categories.

951
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 16: Are we trying to gather information are we trying to

952
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 16: impact the defense? And what I loved about Brady was

953
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 16: it was both. You really don't want it to be

954
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 16: just one or the other. Now on plays it's going

955
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 16: to be, but over the course of the game you

956
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 16: wanted to be both. And you saw that with some

957
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 16: of the motions to try and impact the defense, whether

958
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 16: it was using that motion to create some void in

959
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 16: the second level of a defense, or to get people

960
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 16: from one responsibility to the other on a fly, or

961
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 16: there was motion for information. The James Cook touchdown PA

962
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 16: was certainly an example of that. So I've said for years,

963
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 16: I don't know why more teams don't do it. As

964
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 16: long as you have a smart quarterback, you should be

965
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Speaker 16: capable of doing it. And I love the fact that

966
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 16: Joe ranted a ton and I think it unlocked a

967
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 16: lot of yards after the catch for their offense, which

968
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Speaker 16: is you know, needed for everybody, but certainly in Buffalo.

969
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 4: We've made the point too that to get the running

970
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 4: backs and other targets involved in the passing game. And

971
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: one of the things I noticed, I want to get

972
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: your take on this. I mentioned a few times this week,

973
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 4: it seemed like the running backs getting involved, particularly early

974
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: in the game against the Jets, it was more on

975
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: designed routes. Rather than the guy checking for pass protection,

976
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: they just turning around and making himself available. The routes

977
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: were in a couple of flat routes or swing route,

978
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: but they were actually running a route rather than just

979
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: checking down and getting the ball, although they did both.

980
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 4: I thought, yes, having a back in a route quick

981
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: was a quick answer that Josh really took advantage of

982
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: earning the game. Certainly a couple of them turned into touchdowns.

983
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, And part of it is, you know the way

984
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 16: that if you took one team offensively that played solid

985
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 16: against the Jets this year defensively was the Cowboys, and

986
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 16: that was a big part of their game plan was

987
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 16: that was there get the ball of the quarterback's hands

988
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 16: quickly method wise. Because the Jets, you have to respect

989
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 16: their defense. And so if you say what's the strength

990
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 16: of their defense, it's their defensive line. What's the next

991
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 16: strength of their defense, it's their two corners. What's the

992
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 16: next strength of their defense, it would be their safeties. Okay,

993
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 16: So the fourth thing that they do best is coverage

994
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 16: by their linebacker group, and that's probably the number one

995
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 16: way to try and go after it is get the

996
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 16: ball out of the quarterbacks hands and get in the

997
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 16: into space with your backs and against some of those

998
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 16: throats to the backs were just information throws. Oh, I

999
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 16: know what the defense that you're in, whether it was

1000
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 16: man or zone or it was going to be Cover

1001
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 16: three or Cover one, and you so often know what

1002
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 16: to do with the football. Josh knew what the do

1003
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 16: with the football or what he wanted to do with

1004
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 16: the football before getting the snap on a consistent basis

1005
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 16: that like for me task it's just like, hey, I'm

1006
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 16: weaponizing my quarterback. I'm weaponizing him to do what he

1007
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 16: wants to do with the football rather than being reactive

1008
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 16: with it.

1009
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: So logic would say Dan knowing the capabilities of the

1010
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: Philadelphia defensive front. This week for Buffalo's matchup, you'd expect

1011
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: the Bills to maybe take advantage of those quick release

1012
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: kinds of throws. But you also know Philadelphia is fully

1013
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: preparing for it, having seen it on tape this week

1014
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: against the Jets. So how do you make it look

1015
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: different so you can still utilize it when necessary?

1016
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think this week becomes a little bit more

1017
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 16: matchup centric. You know, there's not really a matchup to

1018
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 16: exploit last week versus the Jets. When it comes to like,

1019
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 16: hey we want to work this person, this one becomes

1020
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 16: a little more matchup centric. And here's the truth, Like

1021
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 16: if we just pay attention to that game and and

1022
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 16: we close our eyes and don't look at the end result,

1023
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 16: and I know we often can't do that. He has

1024
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 16: a city, had plenty of plays available there. They just

1025
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 16: didn't make them in the simplest form. It just like

1026
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 16: catch the ball obviously, but this wasn't a you know,

1027
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 16: like they struggled to know they didn't they ran the

1028
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 16: football in power situations, They got their backs on the

1029
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 16: edges in the run game. So that would be something

1030
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 16: I think, and that lends to Buffalo with Dion as

1031
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 16: a puller. So I think that in the past game

1032
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 16: it really is such a central focus of work in

1033
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 16: the middle of the field. You know, they they there's

1034
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 16: one person playing well coverage wise in their secondary that's

1035
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 16: Darius Slay and I love Philly, but that's the truth.

1036
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 16: So it's matchup centric of how many different ways can

1037
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 16: they get their pass catcher, whether it is a staff

1038
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 16: or whether it's a Gabe or a Shaki. Obviously, like

1039
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 16: working between the numbers is going to be such a

1040
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 16: big deal. So yes, protection and the different ways that

1041
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 16: they'll help with protection and whatnot. But this is going

1042
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 16: to be matchup centric rather than bald distribution centric.

1043
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have the Philly Where have the Eagles struggled?

1044
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: And both offensively and defensively, where are their problems if any?

1045
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, so offensively they've turned the ball over, that's really

1046
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 16: the only way. And like they've turned the ball over

1047
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 16: more than they did in the past. They don't run

1048
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 16: Jalen as much. Now there's two schools of thoughts. Offensively,

1049
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 16: have they not done it because he has a left

1050
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 16: knee maybe, or have they not done it just because

1051
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 16: their philosophy was going to be not a lot in September,

1052
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 16: not in October, not a ton in early November, Like,

1053
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 16: let's do it when we have to. They're nine to one,

1054
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 16: they don't have to right now. We saw it a

1055
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 16: little bit more last night. So they're still running the

1056
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 16: ball well. I don't think their offensive line is as

1057
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 16: dominant as it was last year.

1058
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: Now.

1059
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 16: I think that's attached to less quarterback run because it's numbers, right,

1060
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 16: you're not holding the defense as much. AJ Brown been

1061
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 16: on an absolute tear. The Jerry's needed an awesome job.

1062
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 16: So offensively, Steve like, they're very similar to last year

1063
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 16: and maybe a little bit of two back. We saw

1064
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 16: two back as Dallas Goddard being out, so the two

1065
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 16: back stuff and getting swift the ball on the edges

1066
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 16: was a big deal. Defensively is where they're not nearly

1067
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 16: what they were last year, and they've they've struggled to cover.

1068
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 16: They just have rad Berry has not played to the

1069
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 16: level that he did last year. They lost C. J.

1070
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 16: Gardner Johnson and for agency. Then it went down to

1071
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 16: Avante Maddicks, who's a pretty darn good nickel and he

1072
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 16: got hurt and they have struggled to replace that Nickel,

1073
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 16: and they were living in this world of do we

1074
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 16: want to play zone like we did last year? Okay,

1075
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 16: we'll play more man and then the only guy who's

1076
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 16: played man good is Darius And so you can create

1077
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 16: some matchups, you really can. And if you if you

1078
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 16: get the right people in the right place and you

1079
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 16: get him on, you get them on that Nickel. Like again,

1080
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 16: think of the two deep balls that were incomplete last night,

1081
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 16: not drops. Watson runs right by a guy and he

1082
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 16: doesn't convert. MBS runs right by a guy and he

1083
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 16: just doesn't run the route the right way. Then there's

1084
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 16: the drop touchdown Watson on him. There's there's holes in

1085
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 16: that secondary. That's the truth. And so you can have

1086
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Speaker 16: success in your past game one hundred percent.

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00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: And you said middle of the field, and you know

1088
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: you didn't even mention Kinkaid. So I'm wondering what the

1089
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: possibilities are there too, if you had to.

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00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 16: Tell me, like personnel wise, where do the eagle now

1091
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 16: byered coming over? Will they use Kevin Bayer the way

1092
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 16: that they used them a little bit with Kelsey last

1093
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 16: night and matchups and whatnot? I think that could be,

1094
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 16: you know, something in Byron's done and he did a

1095
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 16: nice job last night, yew there were double and triple teams.

1096
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 16: If they do that versus Kincaid, I don't think so.

1097
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 16: But if they do that, good night. But you know,

1098
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 16: I think that Philly will probably lean into taking Kevin

1099
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 16: Byard if they're going to play man and getting him

1100
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 16: in coverage with Dalton king Gaid. But as much as

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00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 16: I love Philly and as much as I respect them,

1102
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 16: I know their defensive corner. I grew up with them.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 16: There are throws there to multiple people. Anyone opposite Sleigh

1104
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 16: is a person who who has the chance to have

1105
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 16: a big game.

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: Dan.

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 2: Thanks as always, we know your time is tight today.

1108
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: We appreciate you giving us some of it. We'll catch

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: up with you next week.

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 16: Thanks guys, have a great Thanksgiving.

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00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah you too.

1112
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: All right, man, you too.

1113
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: That's Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analysts joining us here as

1114
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: he does every Tuesday. Interesting, interesting, Steve, that you know

1115
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: the Eagles, unlike last year where they sailed, and I

1116
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: mean sailed to the conference title game and then got

1117
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: to play a fifth string quarterback to advance to the

1118
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl, they're actually having a tad bit a tad

1119
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: bit of adversity this season.

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Speaker 4: Well, not too much.

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: They're eight. No, not too much.

1122
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: They're nine and one, so they're playing really well. But yeah,

1123
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: last night they had no busines is winning that game

1124
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 4: in Kansas City. They did. Kansas City dropped six balls.

1125
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 4: One was a winning touchdown. In the last two minutes,

1126
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 4: they FuMB and that Kansas City fumbled the ball away

1127
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: or through an interception in the red zone twice. Kansas

1128
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 4: City was all over him and couldn't close the deal.

1129
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: And you know so, but good teams kind of have

1130
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: that confidence like I don't care, We're gonna still win,

1131
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: you know.

1132
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: And they know how to grind out games.

1133
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 4: That's what shanded out they do. They finished games really well.

1134
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: And uh, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a

1135
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: huge task going to Philly and beat this team.

1136
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think there's any debate about that. I

1137
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: think the most interesting thing that Dan talked about though,

1138
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: was the fact that, you know, last week we saw

1139
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: an approach from Joe Brady that was ball distribution focused,

1140
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: got a lot of people involved, heavy substitution at the

1141
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: skill positions on offense, a lot of people got involved,

1142
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: and now this week it might be all about the matchups.

1143
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: You might see a guy getting twelve targets and it

1144
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 2: might not be Steffan tis right.

1145
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 4: And it's a big it's a big ask and a

1146
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: big test for Joe Brady. Different, completely different way to

1147
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 4: make a game plan up, with different reasons for motion,

1148
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: for different reasons for personnel, for different reasons for early

1149
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 4: plays in the game, to find out stuff, you know,

1150
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: for reconnaissance about how they're what their rules are. So

1151
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: it's going to be a completely different game for Joe Brady.

1152
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to formulate, formulate, excuse me, formulate a

1153
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: game plan that is vastly different from the one he

1154
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: just played against the Jets. Different type of offensive mindset,

1155
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 4: like where's that guy? Okay, let's find him. All right,

1156
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: let's put these guys out. He's on the field. Okay,

1157
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 4: Now what are they eight lined up in? Okay? Now switch?

1158
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's gonna be a lot

1159
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: on Josh to get a guy over there and manipulate

1160
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: the defense into a matchup he wants. It's hard to

1161
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 4: do because Philly knows what they're Philly knows their guy

1162
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: can't play.

1163
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: And they have one of the three best rosters in football.

1164
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you can say what you want about their

1165
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: coverage ability on the back end, where they sustained some

1166
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: injuries and some free agent losses. They're not the it's

1167
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: not the strength of their defense. What's up front.

1168
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: We're not splitting the atom here. I mean everybody else

1169
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: sees the same thing the Bills do. I mean you

1170
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: didn't think the Chiefs went after him. I mean the

1171
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: Philly knows where they're vulnerable and they can cover it

1172
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: up as best they can. So that's why, you know,

1173
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: you gotta like you got to coach it out of it.

1174
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, and they they try to cover it up with pressure.

1175
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: Evidence of that last night's game. Mahomes on fifty dropbacks

1176
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: is sacked only once, but he was pressured on twenty

1177
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: other snaps. So Philly's gonna dial it up to help

1178
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: the guys on their back end.

1179
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: This going for Buffalo though in their favor. Is you

1180
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: know Josh is every bit as hard to sack as

1181
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: Mahomes is, correct, So we'll see.

1182
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1183
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: Eight h three zero five point fifty one eight eight

1184
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

1185
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: on board. What are your thoughts after watching the Eagles

1186
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: defeat the Chiefs. You can either give us your thoughts

1187
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: on what kind of an opponent you think the Eagles

1188
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: are going to be for the Bills this week, what

1189
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: kind of opponent you think the Chiefs are going to

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: be three weeks from now, because we've got the bye

1191
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: week before they play the Chiefs the following week. So

1192
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts based on what you pulled

1193
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: out of last night's game, you let us know it.

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: Eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight

1195
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five point fifty the number to get

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01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: on board. Uh, we're gonna go to a guy that

1197
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: was holding earlier. He popped back on here it's Rufus

1198
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Rufus?

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Speaker 17: Hey, how you doing? Happy holidays?

1202
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah to you as well.

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 17: Yeah, I just I just want to know, you know,

1204
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 17: I watched the game this weekend, and you know, I

1205
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 17: like the Josh Allen that I saw. You know, actually,

1206
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 17: I love that Josh Allen. I believe that's when he

1207
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 17: plays his best ball, when he's not solely focused on

1208
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 17: getting the best player on the field of the ball

1209
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 17: and threatening the needle and forcing it. You know, when

1210
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 17: he just spreads it around, so I kind of want

1211
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 17: to know you know your guys thoughts on you feel

1212
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 17: like Alan plays better when he's just free and not

1213
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 17: under pressure of gigs or no, get your guy to

1214
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 17: ball and live through gates.

1215
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree Rufus that he does play better

1216
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: when he's playing free, But I think I think we

1217
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: have to word it better then, whether than when he's

1218
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: playing under pressure. Because Josh is a clutch quarterback too,

1219
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: so to say he plays better when it's free and

1220
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: easy and more so than when he's under pressure, we

1221
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: got to phrase that differently. I think when things are

1222
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: difficult and the team is struggling, I think sometimes it

1223
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: will take him a little bit of time to pull

1224
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: them out of a funk. But when the pressure is

1225
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: on in a football game, that's sometimes when.

1226
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: Josh is at his best.

1227
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look no further than the twenty twenty one

1228
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: divisional playoff in Kansas City when it was back and

1229
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: forth over the last four minutes of that game.

1230
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: That's high pressure environment and he was thriving.

1231
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: And there have been other examples of that, countless number

1232
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: of examples for Josh when his team is down. You

1233
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: can look at the list of his fourth quarter comebacks.

1234
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: They're in the teams already and he's only a sixty

1235
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: year player. I think there is something to be said

1236
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: with respect to the coordinator change that. The biggest messaging

1237
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: we heard Coach McDermott come out of that with was

1238
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: we need new energy and confidence in our offense.

1239
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 3: It lends, It lends to the theory, and I don't

1240
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: know this. This is just a theory.

1241
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: That maybe Ken Dorsey had a vice grip on this

1242
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: offense succeeding and when it didn't, he tightened the vice

1243
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: even harder. And sometimes when you're two tents, you can't

1244
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: function and execute in the way you are capable of.

1245
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that tension and pressure when things

1246
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: started to go the wrong way with this offense was

1247
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: too much for the players to go out on the field,

1248
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: relax and play to their capabilities because they had a

1249
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: coordinator who was so tense and intense. Not for the

1250
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: wrong reasons, because he wanted to win as much as

1251
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: the next guy. But I wonder if that ratcheted up

1252
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: intensity from the coordinator filtered down through the players to

1253
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: the point where they couldn't execute in a way that

1254
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: they were accustomed to over the last couple of years.

1255
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 3: Just a theory. Don't know that, but.

1256
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: It's hard not to think about Dorsey's reaction in the

1257
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: booth after the Week three loss to Miami last year,

1258
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: when he's throwing an iPad over the place and smashing

1259
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Is that can affect players, and not

1260
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: necessarily in a good way all the time, because everybody's different.

1261
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: So I wonder if that was part and parcel what

1262
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: had an impact on compromising the effectiveness and productivity of

1263
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: this offense.

1264
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if all that's right, but it, you know,

1265
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: it's certainly a valid, you know, assertion, because you can

1266
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: tell you when Dorsey comes in takes over as oc

1267
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 4: The thing they had to do was like keep keep

1268
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: the lid on Josh, make just get Josh to take

1269
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: this easy throw. Keep stop trying to make the impossible throw,

1270
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 4: take the easy ones, and then take the impossible ones

1271
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 4: when they're not so impossible and they're made easier because

1272
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: they're afraid you're gonna take the easy one. That kind

1273
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: of thing. So to handle Josh and maybe to combat

1274
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: Josh's sugar high Josh, maybe it was his solution to

1275
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 4: vice this. You know, put a vice grip on the

1276
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: offense and stifle him a little bit so we wouldn't

1277
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 4: keep trying to go deep. And in doing so, it

1278
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 4: changed the attitude. Josh changed, his demeanor changed and changed

1279
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 4: more than what he was looking to change about the offense.

1280
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 4: And now that you know the penel now under Joe Brady,

1281
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: at least after you know what seventy plays or whatever

1282
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: it was, now the baby the pendulum swinging back the

1283
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 4: other way. Maybe we'll see a little bit more of it. Uh,

1284
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 4: they'll probably probably be some unintended side side effects of

1285
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: Joe Brady's coordinatorship as well, but we'll see. Certainly the

1286
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 4: early returns are good.

1287
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 17: Uh.

1288
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: But yeah it, let's face it, and you run when

1289
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 4: you're coordinating the when you're coordinating the Bill Buffalo Bill's offense,

1290
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 4: and you got Josh Allen, with Josh Allens your quarterback,

1291
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: that's where it centers. Now, how do you handle him

1292
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 4: and his ability to make the easy throws and then

1293
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: every once in a while make a play? How do

1294
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: you how do you call plays to get the most

1295
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 4: out of him so that he can get the most

1296
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: out of the guys around him. And it's as much

1297
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: as psychological exercise as it is x's and o's. You

1298
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: gotta have a relationship. That's why Josh wanted wanted Ken Dorsey.

1299
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: They had a relationship. He was gonna feel good about

1300
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Speaker 4: the mindset and all that, and it didn't go well

1301
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: when you got to try something else, you know, it's

1302
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: it's about that relationship. And like I said earlier, all

1303
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks from Mahomes to Herbert to Daniel Jones and

1304
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 4: Mac Jones, all these got every quarterback in the league

1305
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 4: that offense runs through their personality as much as through

1306
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 4: their skill sets. It's part of that's part of the

1307
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 4: hard job as the hard part of the job as

1308
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 4: much as the x's and o's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and to Frank

1310
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: on a Selle, what do you got for his Frank

1311
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: you're on one Bill's Live.

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 12: Yes, thanks for taking my call. I have three points

1313
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 12: three things to say and then one question number one, Brownie,

1314
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 12: where's your resume been? For so long? You were enthusiasm

1315
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 12: during these football games? You got to feel like you're

1316
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 12: the Rick jennerret of the Buffalo bill. I've been listening

1317
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 12: to John Murphy for years with my grandpa but when

1318
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 12: I hear you talk about anything Buffalo Bill is related,

1319
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 12: I mean, my gosh, is it just fire me up?

1320
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 12: And you've only been doing it year one. So congratulations,

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 12: Thank you. Number two, Steve, My mom had a crush

1322
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 12: on you growing up.

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01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 18: That's how I even became a billgs fan.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 12: Number three, Witch some boys.

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 18: The Philadelphia Eagles are nine and one, They're only a

1326
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 18: three and a half point favorite. Why Bills are gonna

1327
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 18: take it to them? And Joe Brady has the biggest

1328
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 18: task that when they play the Eagles, and I think

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 18: not the Eagles up nine and two.

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Speaker 12: I think that Brady has a you know, a pretty

1331
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 12: good start. Now he was they were running the ball

1332
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 12: on third down. So when we heard you guys talk

1333
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 12: about why the build offense is so predictable, it's because

1334
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 12: they were throwing on third down. So the dump plays,

1335
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 12: Allen wasn't running, running backs were running. They were getting

1336
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 12: a little bit of a different feeling. There was looking

1337
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 12: sexy on third down and you saw it what nine

1338
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 12: for the Jets to try to convert and they had

1339
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 12: zero yards, you know, in the first half. So you

1340
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 12: know that those are all good things. And you know,

1341
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 12: my final question is give me the best mock trade

1342
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 12: for Stefan Diggs. I know that's crazy and it's a

1343
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 12: different energy from what I just brought to the table.

1344
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 12: But what can we get for him? And I know

1345
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 12: he doesn't want to leave Buffalo, but what what is

1346
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 12: the best out there that you could see in return

1347
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 12: that's going to help this team get to the super Bowl.

1348
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 12: I'll hang out.

1349
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Frank.

1350
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: That was a that was a very interesting call, especially

1351
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: the part about his mom having a crush on you, Steve.

1352
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: That was that was fantastically in my life. Oh my

1353
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: grandma likes me. Yeah, I don't. I don't know that.

1354
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: We I understand where you're coming from, Frank, with respect

1355
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: to Stefan, and you know, the whole the whole theory

1356
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: of a year too early before a year too late.

1357
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: Stefan really can't go anywhere because of the nature of

1358
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: his contract. It's too much of a cap hit even

1359
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: next year for the Bills to sustain in light of

1360
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: their current situation.

1361
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to entertain that. Really.

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: Uh, your point about the Eagles is well taken. They

1363
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: are only a three and a half point favorite at

1364
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: home as a nine to one football team in the NFC.

1365
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: I do think the Bills are capable of hanging with

1366
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: them and even beating them, even at their place. We

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: just haven't seen the week to week consistency from the

1368
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: Bills as of yet. Last week was an encouraging sign,

1369
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: and you hope that all continues. But the Eagles have

1370
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: been the top dog in the NFC for over a

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: year now and nobody has proven capable of unseating them

1372
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: from that perch. So you got to go in with

1373
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: a healthy dose of respect as well.

1374
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 3: You know.

1375
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: It's like a lot of our coaches through the years

1376
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: have said, growing up, you fear no one, but you

1377
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: respect everyone.

1378
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 3: And I think if the Bills go in with that approach, we're.

1379
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: Looking at a pretty good performance from Buffalo on Sunday.

1380
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 4: That's what he's talking about. Trade and staph.

1381
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not doing that.

1382
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 4: That ain't happening. They ain't happening. I'll just say this,

1383
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: you can say what you want. And Steph said it

1384
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 4: himself and I don't have to speak for him. He said,

1385
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 4: you know, he can't be responsible for whatever people feel,

1386
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 4: and everybody sees him on the sidelines, you know, yelling, screaming,

1387
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: doing this and doing this. Let me tell you something,

1388
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: his teammates love him, and he loves his teammates. Him

1389
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 4: and Josh are close and he All you got to

1390
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 4: do is stand up for one half a second and

1391
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 4: look around the National Football League. Say where else would

1392
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 4: Steph Diggs go? That would be better than where he's

1393
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: at right now. You say, oh, he'll play with his

1394
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: brother in Dallas. Dude, they're adults. They can spend the

1395
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 4: whole off season together if they're you know, what are

1396
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 4: you talking about. He's making a ton of cash and

1397
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 4: he's getting opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to be as

1398
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 4: good as he can be. He's a team captain and

1399
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 4: a club that loves him, and he's got a quarterback

1400
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: that feeds him. I mean, that's ain't nobody in the

1401
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 4: league got it better than Steph at wide out right now,

1402
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 4: mainly because there isn't another number two that's really, you know,

1403
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: calling for the ball over there. He's the guy, and

1404
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: that's right where every wide receiver wants to be. Steph

1405
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: has got it good and he knows it. He knows it.

1406
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: Now.

1407
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's gonna be smooth sailing. That does

1408
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 4: mean they're gonna be problems and challenges, bad games, missed opportunities,

1409
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 4: or games where he didn't get as many targets as

1410
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 4: he wish he would. All that stuff's gonna happen. It's

1411
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: gonna happen wherever else he goes to. So this stuff

1412
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: about Steph Diggs wanting out, getting out, not liking it

1413
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 4: is all bogus, top to bottom, from start to finish.

1414
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 4: And people see him yelling or something, him and Josh yell.

1415
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't care if Josh and him get into a

1416
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 4: shouting match on the sidelines. As soon as it's over,

1417
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 4: it's over. That doesn't mean they're never gonna like each other.

1418
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 4: It's ain third grade. It's a third grade recess. These

1419
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: guys are friends, they're adult guys, and they laying on

1420
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: the line for each other, and they risk injury for

1421
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 4: each other. They ain't going anywhere. They ain't going anywhere.

1422
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 4: Steph Diggs ain't going anywhere. He's too good and he's

1423
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: been too good for too long. The guy's on a

1424
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: the guy is on a Hall of Fame trajectory. Right

1425
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 4: where he's at, Right where he's at, there's no reason

1426
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 4: for him to not like it. Where he's at club

1427
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 4: loves him, quarterback loves him, coach loves him, his teammates

1428
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 4: loves him, the fans love him. I don't know what

1429
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 4: the problem is with this. Yeah, so just give that up.

1430
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 4: Steph is going absolutely nowhere, absolutely nowhere.

1431
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark in Jersey City here before the break?

1432
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 3: What do you got for his mark?

1433
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 19: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Three points Eagles, Casey Bills. They desperately

1434
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 19: missed Dallas Goddard. Oh, because when they just worked on

1435
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 19: taking away Smith Brown and he that's his security blanket,

1436
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 19: and and he's big in the run game too. They

1437
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 19: really miss him. Hearts was just looking all over the

1438
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 19: place because he didn't seen number eighty eight. Similar thing

1439
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 19: with KC outside receivers h abysmal. Sky Moore doesn't look

1440
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 19: like a guy. Rachie Rice as a rookie, Scanaling dropped

1441
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 19: the winning Touchdowny Chelsea is starting to look a little old.

1442
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 19: I think that the accumulation of hits wear and tears

1443
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 19: played a lot of playoff games. He's starting, you know,

1444
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 19: the whole celebrity circuit. It's it's looking a little like

1445
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 19: more downside of the career. Obviously, with age and the Bills.

1446
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 19: The whole thing with Alan and the NFL films. I

1447
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 19: feel like I'm effing back it. Just they played with

1448
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 19: a certain juice like and that was just a constant

1449
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 19: Buzzworth that he was last week energy juice. You see

1450
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 19: a guy like Ty Johnson just run hard. He had

1451
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 19: one really tough run early called back on a hold.

1452
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 19: Then he had the two really good catches, one that scored.

1453
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 19: We've all been craving a guy like Fournette. This kid

1454
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 19: pops off the practice squad, gets his chance, and maybe

1455
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 19: it's kind of an unwritten rule, go burn your old team,

1456
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 19: but I'd like to see him start to take some

1457
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 19: snaps from Latavius Murray.

1458
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. Mark. You're right. Every team's

1459
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: gonna go through it. I mean the Bills went through it.

1460
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 4: They thought they're gonna be a twelve personnel team, and

1461
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 4: you know, then Dawson Knox goes down with an risk

1462
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 4: and he's out for a month, and now you have

1463
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 4: no choice. You got to go forward as eleven personnel.

1464
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: Dallas Goddard, listen this note. And it's the same with

1465
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 4: the Bills, same with Philly, and same with Kansas City.

1466
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 4: When you lose good players, it's hard. It's harder doesn't

1467
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 4: mean you can't get it done. It's just harder to do.

1468
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: It's harder to do for the Chiefs without Tyreek Hill.

1469
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 4: It's harder to do for the Philadelphia Eagles without Dallas Goddard.

1470
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: It's harder to do when you know, like Anthony Richardson

1471
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 4: for the Colts goes down. It's harder to do when

1472
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson goes It's harder to do with when you

1473
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 4: lose good players, you're not as good and you're in

1474
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: a league that's really hard to win in. So yeah,

1475
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: it's about how well you can adapt to that void

1476
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: in your lineup and whether you've got guys that can

1477
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 4: mesh over it. We've seen Khalil Shakir blossom without Dawson

1478
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 4: Knox in the lineup that there's no question about it.

1479
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid same thing, More more targets share with Khalil

1480
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 4: and and uh Dalton, more of those, more more opportunities

1481
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 4: for those two guys. The Bills have kind of washed

1482
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 4: over and mended that void that Knox left in the lineup.

1483
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: Other teams have got to do the same thing. They're

1484
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 4: having a hard time, just like the Bills would have

1485
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 4: or did, I mean they changed offensive coordinators, so it's

1486
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: hardly it's a hard lead to keep it going. I've

1487
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: said it. This is this season more than any other

1488
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: I can remember. It's hard to play well for a

1489
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 4: long time. And it's only eighteen We always say only

1490
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: eighteen games. They all count of a lot. Yeah, you

1491
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 4: know what takes six months to play all those suckers.

1492
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 4: It's a long season. You can't. You can't hang in

1493
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 4: there and go. Teams have now you got teams that

1494
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 4: are you know, like the ill Philly's got a nice run.

1495
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: Teams can string together wins, but they don't all look good.

1496
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: Al Davis is smarter than we all thought when he said, just.

1497
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: Win, Just win, man, you gotta find a way just win,

1498
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 4: just win because they all stack up. But you can't.

1499
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 4: You can't play at a high elite level for months

1500
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 4: and months and months and months. It's a week to

1501
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 4: week game.

1502
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

1503
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. Dan in Rochester, John and

1504
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo will get to you when we return.

1505
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: Here.

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01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, presented by Collid of Health, It's

1507
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1508
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,200
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a very wet

1510
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: and rainy Tuesday here in Western New York. I want

1511
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: to get right back to the phones, where we're asking

1512
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: you for your thoughts after watching that Monday night game

1513
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: that featured Buffalo's next two opponents, the Philadelphia Eagles and

1514
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs.

1515
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a slog whether it was

1516
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: a factor.

1517
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: Let us know what you come out of that game

1518
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: thinking about not only those two teams, but the Bill's

1519
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: chances over the next two games with a bye week

1520
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: sandwiched in between. To the phones, we go at eight

1521
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,919
Speaker 2: h three h five fifty in to Dan in Rochester.

1522
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Dan?

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 9: Hey, guys love the show.

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 10: Hey.

1525
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 17: First of all, I just got to say, all these.

1526
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 9: Fans that are you know, I mean, it's been a

1527
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 9: hard season to look positively at things. But when we

1528
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 9: do pull it together and we win the Super Bowl,

1529
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 9: I hope they all feel really guilty coming to the

1530
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 9: Super Bowl.

1531
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 5: Pray.

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01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 9: Anyways, what I was gonna say is, if McDermott was

1533
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 9: just the defensive coordinator this year, everybody in the league

1534
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 9: would be saying his praises because of the job he's

1535
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 9: done with all the problems and injuries and everything. The

1536
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 9: problem is he's doing a great job on the defense.

1537
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 9: We've lost He lost his attention or the attention to

1538
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 9: detail with the other two phases. Maybe he thought he

1539
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 9: had coaches that were more more detail oriented, or because

1540
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 9: he doesn't have the time to spend with those other

1541
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 9: parts of the game. Now they've slipped a little bit.

1542
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 9: But possibly now.

1543
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 19: He pulls together.

1544
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 9: We have an offense now that maybe he's not worried

1545
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 9: about the position that's going to keep putting his defense in.

1546
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 9: Somehow he straightens out a little bit of the detail

1547
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 9: work with the special teams. We put together a run.

1548
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 9: If there's every year to be up and down like this,

1549
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 9: it's the year when every other good team in the

1550
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 9: AFC is up and down just like us. The conference

1551
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 9: record concerns me, But I think we can still put

1552
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 9: this together go on a run. I'm hoping you guys

1553
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 9: think the same thing. I'll shut up and listen.

1554
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem, Dan, thanks for the call. Yeah, I mean,

1555
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: Steve said it many times. I'll echo it.

1556
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: This team certainly has the capability of doing that, and

1557
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: the fact that they've done it in the past only

1558
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: reinforces that fact that it is possible. I mean, they

1559
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: ran off what was it, seven wins last year after

1560
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: losing in Week ten and finished thirteen and three. Now,

1561
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: there were other circumstances at play. The demor Hamlin event

1562
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: kind of compromised them as a team emotionally, and the

1563
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 2: playoff run wasn't what everybody anticipated it would be. But

1564
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: it's in there. I mean, they did it in twenty

1565
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: twenty one as well. They fall to seven and six

1566
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: after an overtime loss to Tampa Bay and they rip

1567
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: off four wins at the end of the season and

1568
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: play their best playoff football that maybe we've seen in

1569
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: the McDermott era, including the perfect game against New England

1570
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: here at home. So yeah, it's as Steve says all

1571
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: the time, it's under the hood. They just have to

1572
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: get the engine started and keep it in gear. So

1573
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: if they can do that, yeah, they're capable of beating anybody,

1574
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 2: even the Eagles and Chiefs to bad games.

1575
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 4: That's right. They certainly have it under the hood to

1576
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 4: do it. Josh gives them a chance against any opponent,

1577
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 4: no matter what the rest of the roster looks like

1578
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: and whenever the rest of the roster chips in and

1579
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 4: they don't turn it over, they're they're impossible to beat.

1580
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 4: So you get this. You get to this point of

1581
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: the season, though, and their margin Neaverara's gone. I mean,

1582
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: they gotta win. They gotta win a bunch of games.

1583
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 4: And they got to do it against the Philadelphia Eagles,

1584
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs, and the Dallas Cowboys in the

1585
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 4: next three games, three teams that are clicking with a

1586
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 4: lot of talent. That's hard. That is hard to do. Yeah,

1587
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 4: that's what That's the only reason to get That's the

1588
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 4: only thing that gives you pause. If it was if

1589
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 4: it was Chicago, Green Bay and Arizona, We're all sitting

1590
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 4: here going, Okay, how are we gonna look when we're

1591
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 4: you know, eight and five. You know, how are we

1592
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 4: gonna look when we're nine and five after we win

1593
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 4: these three games. That's that's not where we're at. You know. Yeah,

1594
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 4: they've got it under the hood to beat lesser teams,

1595
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 4: but they're not playing a lesser teams, so they're planes

1596
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 4: the cream of the of both conferences. So they got

1597
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 4: a click and they can't. Their margin of error is

1598
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 4: used up? Yeah, used up.

1599
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: That's the fly in the ointment. Let's go to John

1600
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: and Buffalo next. What do you got for us?

1601
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: John?

1602
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I just wanted to say a few things.

1603
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 8: I'm extremely happy how the offense operated under Joe Brady

1604
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 8: as well as last night's game. It was very promising

1605
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 8: seeing both those offenses struggle on the field. And my

1606
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 8: last thing, I've been hearing a lot of people calling

1607
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 8: wondering what we're gonna do with Dawson Knox. But a

1608
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 8: simple fix for that was, why can't we just alternate

1609
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 8: between Dawson Knox and Dalton Kincaid to give them a

1610
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 8: little more air in between rocks? And that's it?

1611
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, John, thanks, I get it.

1612
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 2: You know, people see Kinkaid emerging and saying, wow, what

1613
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: about Dawson Knox now, and people are like seemingly ready

1614
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: to throw them overboard. I was like, we hold on

1615
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: a second. Dawson Knox isn't like Chop Suey or anything.

1616
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: Guy's a good player. You don't get rid of good

1617
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: players because you never know when you're gonna need them,

1618
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, Sean McDermott said yesterday that you know, even

1619
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: though Knox has been on the required minimum of four

1620
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: games on injured reserve, he's not yet ready to return

1621
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: from his wrist surgery and subsequent rehab. And so what

1622
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: you have is a situation that's probably gonna take a

1623
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 2: little more time. But the guy is a good player.

1624
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: He's been productive. He has a nine touchdown season. Have

1625
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: we forgotten that? Yeah, a nine touchdown season. The guy

1626
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: can play. He doesn't have the same skill set as

1627
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Dalton kincaid. I'll bet you Dawson Knox would even tell

1628
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: you that, but the guy can certainly help you in

1629
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: the red zone. I'll sign up for a sixty five,

1630
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty pound target any day of the week.

1631
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, too, you don't have to play these

1632
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 4: guys just because you want to make them feel good.

1633
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 4: You play who's gonna help you win, period. And what

1634
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 4: happens if, okay, say, for instance, you just I had

1635
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: to kick Knox to the curb or trade him. You

1636
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 4: trade him for a whatever, you pick it, so you

1637
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 4: trade him, and then the next week, Dalton kin kaid

1638
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: tweaks his ankle and he's out for three weeks. Now,

1639
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 4: what are you gonna do. You're better with good players

1640
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 4: on your team. There's nothing that says Dawson Knox and

1641
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid can't alternate or coexist either on the field

1642
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: at the same time, or if one of them sits

1643
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 4: for an entire game or an entire month before he

1644
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 4: plays because the other one's playing really well. Good problems

1645
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 4: to have. I'll take those problems and let the emotions

1646
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 4: of it, you know, take care of themselves. You don't

1647
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 4: have to bend over backwards to make sure everybody's all happy,

1648
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 4: go lucky. It's a pro football and when the team's

1649
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: playing and the team's winning and everything's clicking on all cylinders,

1650
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: nobody in the locker room is gonna squawk. Nobody in

1651
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 4: the locker room is gonna squawk. So if they need

1652
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 4: Dawson Knox and he's ready, they'll play him. If they

1653
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 4: they won't. And same thing with Dalton Kinkaid. When they

1654
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 4: need him on the field and he's ready, they are

1655
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 4: gonna put him out there. If they got a better

1656
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 4: option in Dawson Knox or or Quintin Morris or anybody else,

1657
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 4: they're the ones who are gonna play. So I this

1658
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 4: isn't Pop Warner football. If they need you, they put

1659
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 4: you in. If they don't sit on the bench until

1660
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: we call your name. I'm exaggerating to make a point

1661
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of relationships and all this stuff

1662
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 4: in there. These guys all like each other. But that's

1663
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 4: the way it works. That's the way it works. Yeah,

1664
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 4: you sit down until we call on you and be

1665
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 4: ready when we do.

1666
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: And it's as Steve said earlier, it's a long season.

1667
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna need everybody. The season is too long to

1668
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: not have roster depth. Let's go to Don and cheek

1669
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: Towaga here before the break. What do you got for us?

1670
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: Don?

1671
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, Yeah, I wanted to make a comment about that.

1672
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 11: I don't know why people are throwing Dawson Knox to

1673
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 11: the side, because having more talent is always better than

1674
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 11: having less. And that's what Brady has as an extra

1675
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 11: guy that he can you on the field at any

1676
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 11: given time. So a couple points I want to make

1677
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 11: real quick. I really feel confident in the next two games.

1678
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 11: My reason being is Philly played last night on a

1679
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 11: Monday night, gives us an extra day prepare, gives them

1680
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 11: that less day to prepare going into the buy. I really,

1681
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 11: it's coming at a perfect time for the Bills. I mean,

1682
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 11: if you couldn't ask for a better time for a BUYE.

1683
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 11: This is coming up two weeks to prepare for Casey,

1684
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 11: and then we obviously have Dallas coming to town. I

1685
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 11: love our chances. I think posit. You know, listen, Josh

1686
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 11: had a little more fire under him. I mean, let's

1687
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 11: be honest, he had a little bit to do with

1688
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 11: why Dorsey was fired, so he was not playing up

1689
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 11: to level. I like what I saw. And let's be

1690
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 11: host Brady is. You know, the guy's fighting for his

1691
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 11: job next year to be the offensive coordinator of the

1692
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 11: Buffalo Bills. So he's gonna do everything in his power

1693
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 11: to make it happen and to go forward. So I

1694
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 11: like our chances. The next couple of weeks, I will

1695
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 11: hang up and listen to you guys.

1696
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 3: All right, don thanks very much.

1697
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, your points well taken about talent can never have enough,

1698
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 2: And like I just said a minute ago, it's a

1699
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: long season.

1700
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:09,959
Speaker 3: You need everybody.

1701
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 4: Good players make you better. If you want to get better,

1702
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 4: get better players. If you want to get worse, get

1703
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 4: rid of good players. Now that's just that simple.

1704
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: Got to take a break here.

1705
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: We'll get some final thoughts on the tweet cheet when

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

1707
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Lives, some final thoughts on the tweet sheet brought

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Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills, and we were asking for

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01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: your thoughts coming out of that Monday night game between

1712
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles and Chiefs, the next two opponents for the Bills.

1713
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: Steve says, seasons have their ups and downs, and it's

1714
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: hard to stay amped up for eighteen straight weeks. We

1715
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: played with energy and purpose last weekend that we have

1716
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: not had all year, and I think that trend continues.

1717
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: I truly believe the Bills will win out because their

1718
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: backs are against it. Tim says that Tarren Johnson needs

1719
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: to pass concussion protocol or they have very little chance

1720
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: of being competitive. McDuffie was the wild card that created

1721
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: a lot of fits backfield on screens, and defensive play

1722
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: calling needs to be much less predictable, which will be

1723
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: a test for McDermott. Yeah, Taron Johnson if he can't

1724
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: get out of concussion protocol this week, the task becomes

1725
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: a little bit stiffer because then you're looking at a

1726
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: matchup of Devonte Smith and Cam Lewis.

1727
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a challenge. It's gonna be a

1728
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 4: tough game. Uh, this is not gonna be a walk

1729
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 4: in the park for either of these teams. And it's

1730
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 4: gonna be nip and tuck. And somebody mentioned the Phillies

1731
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 4: a slight favorite at home three.

1732
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: And a half points.

1733
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 4: It's gonna be that close. It's gonna be one of

1734
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 4: those games.

1735
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: Jess says. The Eagles are really good.

1736
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: Can't make any mistakes, turnovers, bad penalties. If we want

1737
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 2: to beat them, go Bills. Emily's it says, both teams

1738
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: are subpar last night. It'll be interesting to see how

1739
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles will play on such a short week after

1740
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: a rather difficult win. The Bills should one hundred percent

1741
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: capitalize on the opportunity presented by the Chiefs losing and

1742
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: the Eagles offense not being at its best.

1743
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 3: It couldn't have been said better Emily.

1744
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,520
Speaker 4: Unfamiliar opponents. We'll see and look for some surprises.

1745
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 3: We'll have more on the game Tomorrow we'll see at

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01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: one