WEBVTT - Title 42, Pt 3: The Mutual Aid Response

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<v Speaker 1>Try and carpool, try and shove into cars as best

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<v Speaker 1>you can, just so that we don't have a mile long.

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<v Speaker 2>Line of cars.

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<v Speaker 3>We have trash bags, we have gloves, we have things

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<v Speaker 3>that we're bringing up there, so what we have cars

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<v Speaker 3>that you can get all of that out of.

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<v Speaker 4>Once we pull over.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also setting up a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>Of pop ups.

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<v Speaker 6>Hocumba, California, is a tiny town. You've probably never heard

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<v Speaker 6>of it. It's actually really charming. There's a hot spring

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<v Speaker 6>and a gorgeous hotel, a few stores selling our drinkets,

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<v Speaker 6>that kind of thing. There's a lovely lake fed by

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<v Speaker 6>the spring. And on this Sunday morning, there are about

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<v Speaker 6>fifty people outside an old petrol station, nervously pounding bottles

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<v Speaker 6>of water, applying sunscreen, and getting ready to head out

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<v Speaker 6>of the desert to clear up the ad hoc migrant

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<v Speaker 6>camp that has held as many as fifteen hundred people

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<v Speaker 6>out in the open when Title forty two ended and

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<v Speaker 6>Border patrol made no plans to keep them anywhere. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a diverse bunch of people hidden beneath sun hats.

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<v Speaker 6>There's an Australian film producer who was at a conference

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<v Speaker 6>in Orlando and booked a fly over a grad student painter.

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<v Speaker 6>The folks who were in the Hookumber Hotel who organize

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<v Speaker 6>this whole thing, they're friends from the hospitality industry in

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<v Speaker 6>San Diego. There were students and mums and dads and

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<v Speaker 6>about the entire population of this tiny desert town. There

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<v Speaker 6>were also two form international aid workers who are in

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<v Speaker 6>a tower where you can look at the desert, which

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<v Speaker 6>is actually a much cooler thing than it sounds. And

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<v Speaker 6>there's also a museum of boulders right next to it.

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<v Speaker 6>You should probably check them out. During the area. I

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<v Speaker 6>spent the day helping out in Necumber after the refugees,

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<v Speaker 6>some of them in handcuffs, had been taken by private

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<v Speaker 6>contractors to be processed by CBP's Office of Field Operations.

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<v Speaker 6>We met at a petrol station in the middle of town.

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<v Speaker 6>The space where the pumps should be was filled with tons,

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<v Speaker 6>and I do mean tons of bottled water, masks, hand

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<v Speaker 6>sanitized and other necessary supplies. When I'd arrived the night before,

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<v Speaker 6>around ten pm, the eerie green and yellow lights reflecting

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<v Speaker 6>from the roof had lit up a palace of water

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<v Speaker 6>like some kind of giant lava lamp, and driving across

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<v Speaker 6>the desert. The town looked like it was glowing. The

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<v Speaker 6>town certainly has had a bit of a glow up

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<v Speaker 6>in the last few years. Three business partners purchased their

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<v Speaker 6>Cumber hot Springs Hotel, a down in the mouth property

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<v Speaker 6>that had once been a glamorous desert resort, and they've

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<v Speaker 6>been restoring the place for nearly two years. Inadvertently, they

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<v Speaker 6>also purchased a lot of land and a few other

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<v Speaker 6>rundown buildings in a town that were sold as a

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<v Speaker 6>lot with the hotel. It was in one of these buildings,

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<v Speaker 6>the old gas station, that they set up a de

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<v Speaker 6>facto mutual aid hubbo almost overnight. The hotel's not finished yet,

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<v Speaker 6>and they probably didn't make much progress on it during

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<v Speaker 6>the week when they were feeding more than a thousand

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<v Speaker 6>people in the desert. The town's lake, fed by a

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<v Speaker 6>natural spring an old bath house used to be attractions.

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<v Speaker 6>Today the bathhouse of roof have fallen off, but it

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<v Speaker 6>still makes a pretty cool concert venue, and the whole

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<v Speaker 6>town offers commanding views of the border wall, which sadly

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<v Speaker 6>is only a couple of hundred yards from the main street.

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<v Speaker 6>When I arrived in Cucumber, every think was close. The

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<v Speaker 6>mini Mark was sold out, the hotel was still being

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<v Speaker 6>worked on, and the hotel kitchen was churning out food

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<v Speaker 6>for volunteers at the clean up effort. I asked Marissa,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the volunteers I met that day, about her

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<v Speaker 6>first impressions on arriving at the meeting point.

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<v Speaker 7>I was incredibly impressed by what the people of hu

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<v Speaker 7>Kumba and the hotel group of individuals that have organized this,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I couldn't believe seeing their donation depot in that

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<v Speaker 7>old car wash, just to how well organized everything was,

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<v Speaker 7>and that they provided so much for the volunteers, and

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<v Speaker 7>just the level of love and compassion and was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it was an amazing opportunity to be part of, very humbling.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been there since late the night before after visiting

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<v Speaker 6>border crossings in California and Arizona, and Jeff, one of

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<v Speaker 6>the co owners a hotel, can you let me pull

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<v Speaker 6>up my truck in some desert behind his house.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a person who enjoys sleeping outside, and I do

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<v Speaker 6>it as often as I can. I try and camp

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<v Speaker 6>police once a month. But that night I was cold,

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<v Speaker 6>even underneath my down blanket, and I couldn't help but

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<v Speaker 6>think of how desperate it must have been to spend

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<v Speaker 6>nearly a week out there with nothing but in my

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<v Speaker 6>last base blanket and some thorny bushes to keep you warm.

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<v Speaker 6>It's certainly not the welcome that one would expect from

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<v Speaker 6>the richest nation on earth, which had three years to repair.

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<v Speaker 6>For the day, Title forty two ended to get a

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<v Speaker 6>bit of background out of town. I spoke to Natalie.

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<v Speaker 3>So the previous owner bought it at an auction, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that the previous owner didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 3>much she was getting, and he kind of just like

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<v Speaker 3>neglected a bunch of it, you know. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>was older, and so he finally sold off the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>He thought he was just buying the hotel, but he

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<v Speaker 3>buying all the land as well. So they when they

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<v Speaker 3>bought the hotel, they acquired all the land and they're

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<v Speaker 3>actually putting money into it and fixing everything up, which

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<v Speaker 3>is really wonderful.

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<v Speaker 6>The hotel in Lake and hot Spring really are wonderful.

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<v Speaker 6>But the scene that had played out there on the

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<v Speaker 6>eleventh of May, with anything but within a short period

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<v Speaker 6>of time, more than a thousand people of all ages

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<v Speaker 6>nationalities will be held in the open desert and left

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<v Speaker 6>defend Lardi for themselves. I let Natalie describe the space

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<v Speaker 6>there in.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of cactuses everywhere, so there's environmental like a

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<v Speaker 3>watch out where you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Walking that it's hot. It's hot in the day and

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<v Speaker 5>really cold at nights. It's the high desert.

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<v Speaker 3>There can be gusts of wind that can just take over,

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<v Speaker 3>get dust in your eyes, your hair, everything is just

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<v Speaker 3>you're just filthy.

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<v Speaker 5>And don't lack of food.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's no resources. You're in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 6>I talked to a lot of the volunteers, many of

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<v Speaker 6>whom have been in the desert for me at week.

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<v Speaker 6>It'd first been made aware of the impending humanitarian crisis

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<v Speaker 6>late on Thursday night, but one of the people working

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<v Speaker 6>on the renovation of the Hot Springs Hotel got a

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<v Speaker 6>call about it. Within a few hours, the hotel zonners

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<v Speaker 6>and all this stuff running what became very nearly the

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<v Speaker 6>only source of food, shelter, and water for more than

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<v Speaker 6>a thousand people trapped and held in the desert by CBP.

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<v Speaker 6>I spoke to Sam, another volunteer, to get sensor response.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Sam is a kind of guy who just looks like

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<v Speaker 6>he's a home in the desert. His wie brim hat, boots,

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<v Speaker 6>and long cleaved shirt and pants told me he spent

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<v Speaker 6>plenty of days under the baking sun out here, and

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<v Speaker 6>his readiness with an isoproble alcohol spray disinfect people's boots

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<v Speaker 6>after walking in an area that was likely covered in

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<v Speaker 6>human shit told me he'd been around one or two

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<v Speaker 6>situations like this in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent a great deal of my life as his

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<v Speaker 4>second career, working for in developmental relief logistics in Southeast Asia,

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<v Speaker 4>mainly working with large ege organizations, for example World Food Program,

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<v Speaker 4>Doctors without Borders show units many many differ from their

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<v Speaker 4>place things.

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<v Speaker 6>In the context of that kind of experience, it's easy

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<v Speaker 6>to understand why people come to the United States, But

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<v Speaker 6>I asked Sam to put the situation here into perspective

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<v Speaker 6>for me. It's understandable that folks came to the US,

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<v Speaker 6>but why to a tiny desert town of five hundred people.

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<v Speaker 4>These people were radically unprepared for what they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to go through because they were sold to bill of

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<v Speaker 4>goods by coyotes on the other side about what was

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen to them, you understand so they had

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<v Speaker 4>really no idea what they were getting into at all,

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<v Speaker 4>and so there was not anything in the way of

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<v Speaker 4>life threatening situations for any of those people in any

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<v Speaker 4>meaningful way, a great deal of discomfort. It could have

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<v Speaker 4>turned very badly if these people here had not stepped up,

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<v Speaker 4>because the border patrol was completely overwhelmed, and so there

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<v Speaker 4>was never that bad of a situation here compared to

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<v Speaker 4>what I have seen in other places in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>A sound pointed out the migrants were now gone, but

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<v Speaker 6>we were still surrounded by times of supplies. But at

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<v Speaker 6>the time there was no way of knowing the scope

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<v Speaker 6>or scale of the need. People reacted as best they could.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually it was overkilled, but you had no way of

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<v Speaker 4>knowing right at the time. There's just no way to know.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you know ahead of time? You always ask

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<v Speaker 4>for as much as you can get, because why would

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<v Speaker 4>you not. I mean, you never know. You don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how many of them with babies that are on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side of the wall right now might be zero,

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<v Speaker 4>might be five hundred. You have no idea, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, before anyone knew how if this was going to end,

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<v Speaker 6>or really what even was going on, dozens of people

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<v Speaker 6>across the county decided to help. One of them was Katie.

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<v Speaker 6>Here she is describing some of the volunteers she worked alongside.

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<v Speaker 8>There was a hard hodgepodge of people and as volunteers

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<v Speaker 8>and leading it were some of the owners of a

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<v Speaker 8>hotel out there, and that was.

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<v Speaker 2>The main organizers.

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<v Speaker 8>But who showed up were people from the town, people

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<v Speaker 8>that I knew and recognized. There were some really devout,

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<v Speaker 8>like they're twenty four hours a day, and then there

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<v Speaker 8>was some coming in and out. But I met people

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<v Speaker 8>from all over the county, and most of them answered

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<v Speaker 8>the car through instagram of the hotel.

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<v Speaker 6>All those volunteers called their friends, who called their friends,

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<v Speaker 6>who gradually coordinated response. Natalie first became aware of this,

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<v Speaker 6>as many volunteers did, through an Instagram post by Melissa,

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<v Speaker 6>another of the three co owners of the Combo Hotel,

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<v Speaker 6>on Thursday night, just as title forty two was ending.

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<v Speaker 6>Natalie saw the post and decided to help. At first,

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<v Speaker 6>she wanted to leave right then at one am as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as she'd seen the post, but after consulting her family,

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<v Speaker 6>she decided to make her own post, asking for people

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<v Speaker 6>to bring supplies that were needed. Soon she was overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 6>by the response.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean immediately, even at one in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I was getting messages because I posted it. That's when

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<v Speaker 3>I posted the story, I immediately got messages from front

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<v Speaker 3>say I'll bring a blanket over. What's your address. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone just kind of rallied and started bringing supplies over,

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<v Speaker 3>collecting money as well. Some friends started collecting money and

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<v Speaker 3>then bought stuff and brought loads of food and things

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<v Speaker 3>to my house.

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<v Speaker 6>Her husband and ferried the supplies to Komba, where they

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<v Speaker 6>were joined by donations from all over the county in

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<v Speaker 6>the old petrol station. Like Natalie, Katie also saw a

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<v Speaker 6>post and immediately felt compelled to help. She called a

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<v Speaker 6>friend and some members of her family and seid about

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<v Speaker 6>raising funds and buying supplies.

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<v Speaker 8>So I met my friend at a cafe and in

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<v Speaker 8>that in the meantime, and I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 8>of this is really important. So in the meantime, I

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<v Speaker 8>text my mother and my two sisters who live on

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<v Speaker 8>the East coast, and just it was late at night

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<v Speaker 8>for them, and I just said, I would love for

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<v Speaker 8>you to send prayers, because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that I believe in.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe in prayer or intention and thought reality. And

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<v Speaker 8>some of it was just because I felt so touched,

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<v Speaker 8>like praying for the community that I love too. And

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<v Speaker 8>the next thing, I know, like my venmo was blowing

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<v Speaker 8>up and there was one thousand dollars in my venmo

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<v Speaker 8>sent from my family members. And so by the time

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<v Speaker 8>my friend arrived, we were like, let's go and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Filled our car.

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<v Speaker 8>With Amazingly, we found like organic, there's grocery outlet, right,

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<v Speaker 8>so we found organic soup for you know, dollars something

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<v Speaker 8>a can, and we spent a few hundred dollars. And

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<v Speaker 8>the next morning we met early and we stopped in

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<v Speaker 8>El Cone on the way and we spent all the

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<v Speaker 8>rest on We went to three or four thrift stores

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<v Speaker 8>and bought every blanket and hat and baby carrier. Because

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<v Speaker 8>we have both focused on motherhood in our careers.

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<v Speaker 6>I asked people I spoke to about a week later

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<v Speaker 6>how the experience had impacted them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was overwhelming, just the the way the community really

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<v Speaker 3>came around.

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<v Speaker 5>And supported.

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<v Speaker 3>The people in Hukumba that were finding help. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>after we finished cleaning up, when we were back at

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<v Speaker 3>the gas station, the Amazon driver was delivering, like I

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<v Speaker 3>think he delivered three hundred and fifty boxes, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we had to open them up and sort them and

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<v Speaker 3>it was there was so much food. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>it was insane amount of food, and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really cool just to see how people stabbed

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<v Speaker 3>up and donated.

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<v Speaker 6>I like some of the people I saw in Santa Cedro. Natalie, Katie,

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<v Speaker 6>Sam and Marissa are not part of an NGO or

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<v Speaker 6>a mutual aid collective. They're just people who wanted to help,

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<v Speaker 6>and that describes most of the people in Hucumber, although

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<v Speaker 6>some of them did have previous and regular volunteer experience

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<v Speaker 6>with excellent groups like Border Kindness. I asked Katie to

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<v Speaker 6>reflect on the mutual aid approach and the absence of massive,

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<v Speaker 6>multimillion dollar organizations. Yeah, wasn't there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't there.

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<v Speaker 8>We were told that the Red Cross couldn't come unless

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<v Speaker 8>Border Patrol called, and Border Patrol told us that they

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<v Speaker 8>weren't allowed to call the Red Cross.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a pretty standard.

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<v Speaker 6>The one institution that did show support to people in

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<v Speaker 6>Hucumber was one that you might not expect, given the

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<v Speaker 6>support for this cruel immigration policy by almost all the

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<v Speaker 6>Democrats in DC. But things are different when you can

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<v Speaker 6>see the results of these policies with your own eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>Perhaps that's why I didn't see a single elected official

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<v Speaker 6>in my entire week at the border. But one person

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<v Speaker 6>I missed, whoever won't mentioned, was a lady who worked

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<v Speaker 6>for California Senator Steve Pidia. I won't name her as

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have her permission, but hopefully one day soon

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<v Speaker 6>we'll be able to interview her. I'll let Katie describe

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<v Speaker 6>the role this woman played.

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<v Speaker 8>There was someone from Steve Padilla's team, and that's the

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<v Speaker 8>woman I rode with, and she was incredible. Her brother

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<v Speaker 8>in law is the chef at the hotel, so I think,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, she might have came anyway, but she came

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<v Speaker 8>faster and there was true connection, and she stood up

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<v Speaker 8>to the border patrol and said, you know, said we're allowed.

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<v Speaker 8>We're here on behalf of this senator. So I mean

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<v Speaker 8>I saw some like had had like arguments about our

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<v Speaker 8>right to be there, and most of us didn't. Weren't

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<v Speaker 8>paying attention to that. We're paying attention to the people

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<v Speaker 8>that we were, you know, around and no one that

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<v Speaker 8>was out there what didn't believe that we should be

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<v Speaker 8>out there, and that more help should be out there.

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<v Speaker 6>Sadly, part of that familiarity with the system this woman

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<v Speaker 6>brought to the team also meant a familiarity with the

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<v Speaker 6>cruel and arbitrary nature of it. Katie says that they

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<v Speaker 6>had to organize for that as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So my friend and I we ended up writing in

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<v Speaker 8>her truck, so in Steve Padia's Senator Padia's.

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<v Speaker 2>Assistant truck.

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<v Speaker 8>So we had the opportunity to ask some questions that

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<v Speaker 8>probably everyone out there wanted to know, including the migrants,

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<v Speaker 8>And it was like, what will happen in what's the

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<v Speaker 8>process from here? And how do you know that these

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<v Speaker 8>people are being tended to? And I literally heard her

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<v Speaker 8>on the phone getting as many bodies on the ground

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<v Speaker 8>to start going to those centers where they're being taken

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<v Speaker 8>to make sure that they were but that we would

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<v Speaker 8>follow them through the entire process as best possible, monitoring

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<v Speaker 8>their well well cared for, that they were well cared for,

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<v Speaker 8>as well cared for as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>In a system and a process like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but she literally said they're going to be busted

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<v Speaker 8>off and putt in cages, and that they would do

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<v Speaker 8>their best to make sure that that no one was

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<v Speaker 8>split up and that everyone was fed, showered, and they

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<v Speaker 8>weren't allowed to bring anything with them, so a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of the cleanup was all of the things that everyone

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<v Speaker 8>donated that had to be left behind, including some of

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<v Speaker 8>the stuffed animals.

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<v Speaker 6>For all the volunteers I spoke to, the chance to

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<v Speaker 6>be of service was empowering. Here's Natalie discussing that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, like and so many times do you

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<v Speaker 3>like feel overwhelmed with like so much suffering in this world,

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<v Speaker 3>and like what can one person do?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And so it did feel good that to actually see

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<v Speaker 3>an immediate impact, like I'm doing this and this is

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<v Speaker 3>a result, because sometimes you can just get discouraged, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're just one person. What can we really do

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<v Speaker 3>and can we really make an impact? And just seeing

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<v Speaker 3>that and being able to see directly how that one

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<v Speaker 3>person can impact, you know, can rally. Like just see

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<v Speaker 3>how my friends came together, you know when shopping, bought things,

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<v Speaker 3>gathered money, collected money. You know, my really good friend Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>she went to her local bar after she collected a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of money, went and dropped stuff supplies off at

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<v Speaker 3>my house.

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<v Speaker 5>She was just down at her local.

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<v Speaker 3>Bar and just chatting with them and like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 3>did you do today, And so she told them, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I collected money and I bought supplies, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>people She ended up collecting about two hundred more dollars

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<v Speaker 3>at the bar from people hearing her story. And so

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<v Speaker 3>then the next day she went and bought more supplies

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<v Speaker 3>and she actually ended up driving them out herself. She

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<v Speaker 3>ended up doing like three trips just from her own

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<v Speaker 3>talking to people and collecting. So just like the little

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<v Speaker 3>impact that you know, everyone just kind of coming together

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<v Speaker 3>and making a difference.

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<v Speaker 6>Santa Sedro, a pretty diverse range of San Diegan's came

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<v Speaker 6>to help. On the first night, I personally left at

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<v Speaker 6>about one in the morning, after spending almost two hours

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<v Speaker 6>trying to leave but needing to get charged phones back

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<v Speaker 6>to their owners by loudly in Spanish and French, then

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<v Speaker 6>English describing the backgrounds on the phone or the color

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<v Speaker 6>of their case. It wasn't a great system, and by

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<v Speaker 6>the weekend, Caber and others had seen that more help

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.680
<v Speaker 6>an organization was needed, and they decided to plan a response.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's Caber describing how they prepared for.

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<v Speaker 5>That are maybe I'll just grabs and you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>was paying attention to people I knew who were doing

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<v Speaker 5>and what supplies they were saying was needed. The particular

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<v Speaker 5>store near me has like a wall of travel size

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<v Speaker 5>like these giant times where you can basically just scoop

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<v Speaker 5>out one hundred deodorant, hands and to paste and things

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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Capan met up with some other members of a local

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<v Speaker 6>mutual aid group. I'll make sure to include donation links

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<v Speaker 6>for all the groups I've mentioned at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>this series, so please make sure to listen right through

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<v Speaker 6>to the end.

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<v Speaker 5>I met up with him and he had just received

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of donations through through mutually networks, so we

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<v Speaker 5>we know even more of a travel size I got

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<v Speaker 5>some truth Troo hygiene kits and deodorant and uh and

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<v Speaker 5>and a bunch of friends and papers because because the

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<v Speaker 5>kids that are between the walls don't really have actually

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<v Speaker 5>do unfortunately, so so that those were those weren't really fast,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we got a whole bunch of bags of

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<v Speaker 5>all those kinds of supplies and then we done in

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<v Speaker 5>the way from there.

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<v Speaker 6>By the time they arrived, various organizations had organized areas

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<v Speaker 6>along the wall for different kinds of aid to be

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<v Speaker 6>passed through. Everything from clothes to food, to medical supplies

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<v Speaker 6>and toilet paper was piled up given out.

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<v Speaker 5>They renations and you know organized the toilet paper, food,

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<v Speaker 5>everything like that, and people just come up to the

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<v Speaker 5>wall and if their family needed something, they would just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of going to it or ask us if we

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<v Speaker 5>were able to you know, if there was a common

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<v Speaker 5>language there. So yeah, we just kind of you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>things as people needed them. I know that I helped

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<v Speaker 5>give out some of the prints and tons of paper

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 5>and those were those were a big hit. Tons of

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 5>kids all came running over from the whole, all the

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<v Speaker 5>parts of the camp when they heard that there was

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<v Speaker 5>there were toys being given out, So that was it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was heartbreaking, but it was also you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>made me smile to see them smile.

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<v Speaker 6>And the smile because of the need to use c

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<v Speaker 6>BP one and of course they need to stay in

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<v Speaker 6>touch with families back home. There was a constant, an

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<v Speaker 6>overwhelming demand for phone charging. News reporters took phones back

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 6>to charge in their cars. Some people bought charge bricks

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 6>and power strips, and mutual aid groups wrote names on

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<v Speaker 6>the back of the phones using painter's tape and sharpie

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<v Speaker 6>so they wouldn't get separated from their owners. By the

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<v Speaker 6>second day it was a better system, but on the

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<v Speaker 6>first day it was chaos. I let Kber, who spent

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<v Speaker 6>a whole day charging phones, described the system that volunteers

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<v Speaker 6>came up with to mitigate that chaos a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>And obviously they couldn't charge their phones if they're just

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<v Speaker 5>in this kind of desert gap between between these walls

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't have any kind of minutes or anything. So

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<v Speaker 5>we had a system where they would passed the phone

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<v Speaker 5>through and we had we went, we went put a

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<v Speaker 5>piece of tape on it with their name and give

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<v Speaker 5>them a piece of tape with their name the same name,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they would give us that if they came

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<v Speaker 5>back to give us a tape back, and we would

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 5>match their names and phone and and that was It

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 5>worked well enough. I mean, it was still extraordinarily chaotic process.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we had we always had at least one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred phones on our side of the wallet any given time,

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<v Speaker 5>and and some people had you know, some people like

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<v Speaker 5>chargers to people didn't. Some people had Android or Samsung

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<v Speaker 5>or all the iPhones, and some people had well adapts,

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<v Speaker 5>and some people didn't have the wallet estae adapters. So

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<v Speaker 5>we kind of had to every phone that came through

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<v Speaker 5>was we had to find a way to get it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, basically chained into the set of generators that

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<v Speaker 5>we had, which was do we have a power strips

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<v Speaker 5>and we have to write cables and and and we

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<v Speaker 5>have space on those cables and and I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was it was a bit of a puzzle the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>The only part of it that really overwhelmed me was

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<v Speaker 5>we did overload. Someone brought a bunch of uh USBC

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<v Speaker 5>power strips and we blew out one of them, and

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<v Speaker 5>so there was now phones attacked, sure that they had

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<v Speaker 5>to find new spaces for and I as I was

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<v Speaker 5>just frustrated by the situation. And in addition of affair

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<v Speaker 5>that charging, I think whatever happened to.

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<v Speaker 6>It, it was chaos, but it was a good nature chaos.

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<v Speaker 6>Over several days that migrants were attained in the open

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<v Speaker 6>with no shelter and inadequate sanitation, just about two miles

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<v Speaker 6>from the discount mall where you can buy cheap Ralpherend's

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<v Speaker 6>shirts if that's your jam, people showed up in ever

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 6>increasing numbers. The American Friends Service Committee helped organize volunteers

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<v Speaker 6>into groups to distribute food, package up wet white snacks, medicines,

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<v Speaker 6>give out tarps, and do just about anything else that

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<v Speaker 6>they could or anything else that they could fit into

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<v Speaker 6>ziploc bags that could be passed through gaps in the wall.

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<v Speaker 5>At least.

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<v Speaker 6>People who had been immigrants themselves or who were the

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<v Speaker 6>children of immigrants were notably numerous and long the volunteers.

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<v Speaker 6>I spoke to one of them.

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<v Speaker 9>My name is Lon Chai.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm part of Asian Soliday Collective grass With organization here

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<v Speaker 10>in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 9>I've been I've been coming over here since yesterday.

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<v Speaker 10>I came here around five six yesterday, and then I

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<v Speaker 10>came back through here this morning and been here since.

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<v Speaker 10>I got home at twelve last night and woke up,

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<v Speaker 10>dropped my kid off, and came right back with more supplies.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been reaching out to family, friends and community to

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<v Speaker 10>help donate supplies and things.

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<v Speaker 9>Like that, food, whatever, whatever they may have.

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<v Speaker 10>And I've pretty much been driving around city and collecting

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<v Speaker 10>from folks that can't make it so I could bring

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<v Speaker 10>it down here myself.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Lunchai explained to me why it was so important to

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<v Speaker 6>show up my community.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm pretty sure they they they're sympathetic to this because

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<v Speaker 10>I'm coming from I'm a first generation cambody in American

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<v Speaker 10>here in the US, and when my parents and my

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 10>family fled their country, they went through this as well.

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<v Speaker 10>So somebody somewhere came and provided to support, provided to

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<v Speaker 10>aid the donations for them to to be able to

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<v Speaker 10>to make it to America to crossover, and and able

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<v Speaker 10>to to to provide out here for for me growing

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<v Speaker 10>up out here. You know.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's just I just sympathize with it, with the

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<v Speaker 9>whole thing. I mean, I mean.

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<v Speaker 10>Everybody should should should feel the same way, because somewhere

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<v Speaker 10>down the line, our families went through similar situations. If

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<v Speaker 10>you're not an indigenous then then then your family somewhere

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<v Speaker 10>down down the history went through the same thing.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know that everybody should have a heart for

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<v Speaker 9>this and be able.

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<v Speaker 10>To come down here and and and donate or donate

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<v Speaker 10>their time or supplies whatever the case may be, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>come out in help.

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<v Speaker 6>He also explained why he feels it's important to encourage

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<v Speaker 6>empathy for refugees.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's it's you have to you have to you

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<v Speaker 9>have to be keep your mind.

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<v Speaker 10>There's there's this families out here, there's this young children,

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<v Speaker 10>there's babies. I mean, it takes a lot for for

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<v Speaker 10>for a mother to pick up her infant child and

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<v Speaker 10>to leave where she's coming from.

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<v Speaker 9>So that just says a lot about where what's.

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<v Speaker 10>Going on, where she's for her to trek and to

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<v Speaker 10>go through this just to sit out here and the

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<v Speaker 10>cold and stuff, because if she would rather endure her

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<v Speaker 10>endure this and take the risk and the chances that

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 10>means where she's coming from is not as you know,

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<v Speaker 10>if she's wanted to take that risk.

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<v Speaker 6>Later that night, I saw an Afghan family come to

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<v Speaker 6>help the other Afghan families. Their kids talk to other

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 6>Afghan kids separated by the border war. They passed crayons

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<v Speaker 6>through the wall and coloring books, and the little daughter

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 6>asked her dad if she could give her watch to

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 6>the Afghan girl being held in the camp. Her dad said,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, I don't record or photograph people's children, certainly

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<v Speaker 6>not without asking, And I wasn't about to interrupt them,

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<v Speaker 6>but it was a very sweet moment. The father of

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 6>the family had worked in the Army Corps of Engineers.

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<v Speaker 6>He'd been to the border before to build this section

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<v Speaker 6>of the war. I didn't really need to ask him

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<v Speaker 6>how it felt to see folks stuck behind it, but

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<v Speaker 6>it said a lot that he and his family had

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<v Speaker 6>taken the time to drive down, buy bags and supplies

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 6>and then come face to face with the people who

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 6>needed them and hand them out. Like dozens of other folks,

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 6>they tried to pass whatever they could through little gaps

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<v Speaker 6>in the war to make someone's day a little bit brighter.

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<v Speaker 6>Another volunteer who we heard from yesterday came from a

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 6>local group called Pana. Hermira, had been at the wall

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<v Speaker 6>since five in the morning and it was getting on

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 6>for five pm when we spoke. I normally ask people

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<v Speaker 6>what they ate for breakfast, just to tune in the

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<v Speaker 6>volume levels on the recorder a bit, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to include it this time, just so you can see

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 6>how long her day had been and how hard she'd

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<v Speaker 6>been working.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know what do you want me to say?

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<v Speaker 2>So that good?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we have a breakfast again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anymore French shast FRESD shosts, but my

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>name is Harmaira Yusafi and I'm with a partnership for

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the Advancement of New Americans PANA, or an organization in

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>San Diego that fights for the full incusion of refugees

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<v Speaker 1>and those who come from refugee producing countries.

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<v Speaker 6>We spoke about the emergency that had kept her hair

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 6>all day.

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<v Speaker 1>So in terms of this morning, I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was very concerned because there was an asylum seeker

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<v Speaker 1>who had an emergency and was rushed out of this place.

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Where now, like for example, where we are at right now,

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<v Speaker 1>is people who are being detained and the most inhumane

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>way possible. This is going against TBP's own protocols and

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>policies as to how they're being detained with No they're

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>not giving them food, they're not giving them bathrooms, they're

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>not giving them basic basic things that they need to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why the community is out here today

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<v Speaker 1>to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Sadly, not everyone who showed up at the makeshift detention

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 6>facility were showing up in solidarity. Local anti migrant activists

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 6>and blogger Roger Ogden showed up.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 6>Ogden might be familiar to some listeners due to his

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 6>attempts to host he called a Patriot picnic and his

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<v Speaker 6>advocacy for the removal of the historic murals in on

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<v Speaker 6>A Park often organized gatherings in the park in twenty

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 6>seventeen and twenty eighteen, and they resulted in a huge

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 6>and overwhelming community response to defend the park, and this

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.479
<v Speaker 6>time Olden decided to keep to himself, but Natalie ran

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 6>into some people who weren't quite as shy about their opinions.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of the people in the Hook community.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you know, lower income.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they are struggling in their own struggle on

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<v Speaker 3>their and so I know, you know, maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know it like for those people, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't know, like, yeah, it's hard. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean towards the end, like when I was walking

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<v Speaker 3>to my car, this man and this man in a

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 3>car like pulled up and he's like, excuse me, what's

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>going on over there? And I was like, Oh, we're

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>gathering you know, supplies for the asylum seekers.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 5>And then I you know, like, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're from here, you kind of if you're in Hookumba,

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>you kind of already knew what was going on, and

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 3>so him asking me that, I was kind of like,

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>m and then he just started laying into I've had

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>illegals you know, have broken into my house a few times.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Why are you supporting illegals? And I'm like, we're trying to,

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 3>let like make sure that people don't die, and he

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 3>just kept going off on me, and so he, you know,

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>his the whole all the talking points that people have

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>about not allowing people to seek asylum here, and so.

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<v Speaker 6>I just walked away. Maurica didn't run into the same

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 6>kind of vocal opposition, but she said in her conversations

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 6>and attempts to process everything she'd seen, she ran into

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 6>some of the sort of need jate responses. So people

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 6>can only really make about immigration when they haven't looked

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 6>the cruelty that they're advocating for in the face.

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<v Speaker 7>It took me a little while to kind of work

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 7>through just how I felt about it on an emotional,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 7>maybe a spiritual level.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 7>I spoke with family and friends about it, about my experience,

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 7>and and it's it's difficult to I found it difficult

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 7>to explain my experience because I don't know that somebody

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 7>can really truly understand that unless they've actually been out

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 7>there and done it themselves, because the arguments or or

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 7>they're kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Debate, so to speak.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 7>What they would come back at me with when I

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 7>was sharing that is, but we don't have enough food

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 7>or housing to be able to support this that many

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 7>people coming in, And I'm like, but we just had

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 7>so many people and so much money put out there

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 7>to help in a very short amount of time. Look

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 7>how many donations were donated, how much money was contributed

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 7>in a short amount of time from not that many people.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, obviously we do have the money. Obviously we

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 7>do have the food. So where's the where's the breakdown? Like,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 7>is it our system that just doesn't allow for that happened?

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, And that that's where like I don't

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't understand it enough.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like.

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<v Speaker 7>It just made me realize that I don't know that

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 7>anybody that I spoke to afterward really understands it enough,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 7>either because their arguments or their defense and what they

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 7>tried to share on the opposite side of me going

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 7>out there and supporting just felt like it was just

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 7>something to say, you know, and like what they what

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 7>they hear from the general media out there, and they

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 7>also don't really they can't quite grasp it, so they're

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.239
<v Speaker 7>just kind of throwing something out there, I guess is

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 7>what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 6>Paper also ran into some less and charitable San Diegans,

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 6>this time down in Santasiedra.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I guess My first is why they might

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<v Speaker 5>have or how they might have found.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 11>Us there, which is there's a a local news organization

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 11>San Diego called PSI, which is kind of a I

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 11>would describe as a local.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 5>Equivalent of something like one American News, which is really

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 5>unfortunate because we already have more American news here. But

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 5>they are are pretty well known for kind of a

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 5>lot of like misinformation, kind of scare mongering about and

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 5>has people immigrants, vaccines and and all that sort of

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 5>sort of thing, but with kind of a local news

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 5>sort of aesthetic to it. And they were, as far

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 5>as I could tell, they were really the only identifiable

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 5>media that were there throughout the day. I read articles

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 5>eventually made me realize there were other reporters there, but

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 5>they were identifying themselves the way that Hasy was. But

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 5>they signed this one cameraman just shooting b role, I guess,

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 5>and he was walking to all the different parts of

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 5>the wall and like all the different sort of stations

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 5>for aid and like trying to really trying to get

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 5>as many faces as possible. You could kind of tell

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 5>that that's like what he was doing. Everyone who I

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 5>was around, I was I was kind of you know,

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 5>oriented mostly with kind of the like sort of like

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 5>analysts between people. And you know, when they saw the

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 5>play with that truck, they're like, okay, point, it's their masking,

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, and killing in ninety five with me. So

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm where that and I am you know, slightly identifying

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 5>logo on my struct shirt which I take over so

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 5>that you know, that image wouldn't show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 6>KUSI have drifted further and further right since twenty twenty.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Along with their relatively miniscule viewership. These days, they engage

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 6>in fake news culture war stuff, like repeating the recent

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 6>false accusations at Target was making tuckable swimming costumes for kids,

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 6>or labeling everyone in the asylum process illegal immigrants. It's

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 6>sadly pretty standard for right news organizations now. Okay, but

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 6>thinks that some of the people who saw footage on

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 6>k USI, or perhaps found the location posted on Obten's blog,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 6>came down to the border like.

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 5>Several hours later that stuff when we started to see people,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of go buy and and and we

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 5>could tell that they weren't volunteers because like peop when

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 5>people like playing people who weren't even necessarily vounteer which

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 5>are buy and so like, hey, I just heard watching,

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 5>and I brought a pace of water, and they bring

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 5>up the water and then they drive away. But the

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 5>people who are doing who are like cute where I think,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of do some kind of intimidation where

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, they wouldn't approach directly. They would just kind

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 5>of get out of their exceptionally large entivies and and

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 5>just kind of just kind of watch, and they would

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of, you know, get a little bit closer at

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 5>a time, and then you know, a little bit closer

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 5>and kind of whisper to each other and you know,

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 5>point at things, and you know, it's just kind of

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 5>they were just watching, and you know, they got close

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 5>enough that I could read their shirts, and and the

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 5>shirts had a slogan that's associated with a Christian nationalism slogan.

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 5>So as this whole family is kind of kind of

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 5>sad that the kids were wearing the shirts too, and

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 5>and so I kind of, yeah, I figured out that

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 5>that's what was going on, and I never talked to them.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 5>I didn't approach them, but I stood when I was,

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, seeing they closer clos or I kind of

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 5>positioned myself in between the rest of the volunteers and in

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 5>this group and and just kind of, you know, didn't

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 5>really start at them, just kind of looked at them

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 5>and and just made it clear with my body language

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<v Speaker 5>that I, like, I knew, you know, they were doing

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<v Speaker 5>like they weren't, you know, they weren't doing any kind

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<v Speaker 5>of secret agent thing or whatever, like they were being

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<v Speaker 5>really really obvious, and and I just you know, stood

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 5>and positioned myself in a way that indicated that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I know what you're doing, and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>get close, You're not going to interfere with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>what we're doing, and you're not going to contact any

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<v Speaker 5>wine drill anyone or like what everyone did. And eventually

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<v Speaker 5>one of the people who is either volunteer or work for,

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<v Speaker 5>like one of the engineers, can definitely tell there was

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<v Speaker 5>something going on. So she went over and had a

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<v Speaker 5>conversation with them that I could hear, and eventually they

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<v Speaker 5>decided to move. And I think she was just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of trying to be diplomatic but just sort of like

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<v Speaker 5>asked them if they wanted to help, and if they

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to help, and you know, yeah, go be

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere else, I suppose, And and it was I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the sort of one amusing part of people like that

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<v Speaker 5>was that they apparently complained to this person about me

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<v Speaker 5>because they said that I had been watching them and

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<v Speaker 5>I was I was racially profiling them because they were white.

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<v Speaker 5>And I realized now that this is an around this interview,

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<v Speaker 5>but just for the listeners, I am very very white myself.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's important when we discuss volunteering to honor

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<v Speaker 6>how hard this kind of experience could be on people. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>the trauma associated with seeing people brutalized by the state

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<v Speaker 6>and capital. It's not the same as being brutalized by

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<v Speaker 6>state and capital yourself. But that doesn't mean it's easy.

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<v Speaker 6>I asked an athlete to reflect a little on children's

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<v Speaker 6>toys we found in the shelter when we were cleaning

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<v Speaker 6>up the camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Like as a mom, like I have my own children,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just really it was emotional.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm like, who's who what child was playing with this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know here in this space, and you know that

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<v Speaker 3>no child should be ever in, you know, an encampment

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<v Speaker 3>like that or it just no one should be living outside,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>no one should be doing that. But also it's like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like the humanity in a way like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, even a child's going to play wherever child's

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<v Speaker 3>going to play, and like that little toy of little

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully it brought that kid some joy in that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if it was there a little piece of

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<v Speaker 3>home or someone gave it to him or what, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Yeah, the reality, it was like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a person, you know, like a little artifact of

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<v Speaker 3>someone who was actually there. You know, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little more tangible than you know, a sock. You know,

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 3>that's not that's not I'm not think you know who

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<v Speaker 3>wore that sock, but think of who who was playing

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<v Speaker 3>with that dooy?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? Was it a little boy a little girl?

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<v Speaker 5>At hold?

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<v Speaker 3>Were they did they bring up home? Are they missing it?

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<v Speaker 3>When they When I saw they have that, she needed

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 3>people to clean up. It was like Okay, I took

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<v Speaker 3>a day off of work and went out there and

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 3>just felt overwhelming almost. I mean, just one day of

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 3>me working out there was really emotional. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 3>how you know, Melissa and all the people that were

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground just dealing with it, and I know

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 3>they're just struggling a little bit and just processing it

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<v Speaker 3>all has been really hard, you know, really hard. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just just just how how privileged we are. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>like no one leaves their country because they want to.

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 3>They leave because they have to, but they feel like

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<v Speaker 3>they have to. And you know, it's I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>respecting and honoring and understanding the privilege that you're in

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<v Speaker 3>and not taking for granted because it's very.

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<v Speaker 6>Easy to both. Katie Marisa said they don't really identify

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<v Speaker 6>as political, and that they wanted to be there as people.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes often politics can become a complicated game of numbers

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<v Speaker 6>and statistics, but it's important to remember that what this

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<v Speaker 6>is really about is organizing in such a way that

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<v Speaker 6>we can take care of one another, and that the

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<v Speaker 6>most important politics of war is the politics of feeding

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 6>hungry people and maybe bringing a sad child of stuffed animal.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's Katie talking about the community response.

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<v Speaker 8>I think I'm a really compassionate person and I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>very political in the sense that, like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really participate.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 8>My life, in my community's life is solution oriented. So

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 8>I saw like that on a large scale, the like

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 8>when people come together, we create solutions when and you

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 8>don't wait for someone like the government to show up

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<v Speaker 8>and fix it, because then people will die. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that's the reality is if that community didn't activate,

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 8>there would have been a lot of dead people in

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 8>the desert.

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<v Speaker 6>Katie shared with me that she's been having a difficult time,

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<v Speaker 6>feeling guilty for not having the language skills to do

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 6>more and questing her own worthiness to be there helping.

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<v Speaker 6>But in the end, she said she felt that what

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<v Speaker 6>she'd done was right and important. I'll leave you with

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 6>her thoughts and tomorrow I'll be back to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>the people who put everyone in this situation in the

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<v Speaker 6>first place, the Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 8>I think an important thing is like so many times

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<v Speaker 8>we hear about things and we say, isn't that awful,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 8>and we kind of shut down because we don't feel

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 8>empowered or we don't know how to help.

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<v Speaker 2>And literally a smile.

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<v Speaker 8>Makes a difference, a feeling of like I see you

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 8>and you belong on this planet makes a difference. And

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, little kids packing up canned goods and fruit

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 8>snacks for other little kids. They didn't see those kids,

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.959
<v Speaker 8>but when the adult said they're going to be so

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 8>happy to get that package, they felt like they made

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<v Speaker 8>a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And those little girls are.

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<v Speaker 8>Gonna grow up and not be afraid to step up

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<v Speaker 8>and make a difference. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 8>think like they can't do enough, so they don't do anything.

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 8>And if we all just do a little bit or

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<v Speaker 8>what you can, then I think we would see a

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<v Speaker 8>very large impact. Hakumba is a town of five hundred

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<v Speaker 8>and they just fed thousands, house thousands, closed thousands, hugged

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 8>and welcomed thousands of human beings. And those people in

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 8>that town don't have much excess and they made a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was proud to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 8>That community in a way that I'm on the fringe

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<v Speaker 8>of it, and it made me want to be even

0:44:56.000 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 8>more a part of it. My feelings an intuition about

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 8>that town, we're confirmed by watching the simplest action make

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 8>an incredible impact on real lives and real people, and

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 8>that this isn't demographics. It's real bodies that have beating

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 8>hearts and breathe and we all share the same air,

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<v Speaker 8>in the same water.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 2>And we're all connected.

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<v Speaker 8>And when you make one little drip in the bucket,

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<v Speaker 8>it actually does make a difference. And I think that

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 8>stops us sometimes when we think what we have isn't

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<v Speaker 8>enough to give, but when someone has nothing, what you

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 8>have is more than what they can imagine.

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