Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Critic he has seen The Last Dance. It's
Speaker 1: not the Jordan documentary, by the way, it's being everybody
Speaker 1: talks about it the Jordan documentary. It's about the team.
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson came up with the title the Last Dance
Speaker 1: because this was the last dance for that team. But
Speaker 1: this is being portrayed as it's the Jordan documentary. We're
Speaker 1: going to tune in because Mike is prominently featured, and
Speaker 1: rightfully so. But it's known as the Last Dance. It's
Speaker 1: on that last year with the Chicago Bulls. So Richard Roper,
Speaker 1: who has seen all ten episodes, he'll join us, coming
Speaker 1: up a little bit later on. Normally, in the weeks
Speaker 1: and days leading up to the NFL Draft, you have
Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks who move up in mock drafts. Now that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they move up on the real team draft boards.
Speaker 1: It's a mock draft and until that's why you're seeing
Speaker 1: some players move up and move down. Because now journalists
Speaker 1: are hearing from the people who actually have to make
Speaker 1: these decisions. This is their job, and that's why we
Speaker 1: sometimes look at a player and go, what's wrong with him.
Speaker 1: He's dropping. Maybe he wasn't supposed to be up there
Speaker 1: in the first place, but the media is catching up
Speaker 1: with some of the opinions here. Think of Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky, and Baker Mayfield. Those were guys who were
Speaker 1: lower in the mock drafts, and that was right up
Speaker 1: until reports leaked on how high they were going to go.
Speaker 1: This week. There's a trend in the mock draft world.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert has moved
Speaker 1: ahead of two a tongue of Iolo, so now we're
Speaker 1: looking him at number five with the Miami Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: told you this a couple of days ago. A source
Speaker 1: said Tua could go three or twenty three because of
Speaker 1: the medicals here. Maybe Herbert and Tuah are going to
Speaker 1: be stars and they're going to be worthy of being
Speaker 1: drafted in the top five or top six or top seven.
Speaker 1: Maybe toast States Jordan Love will go high. In about
Speaker 1: a week, we're going to find out if the mock
Speaker 1: drafts were onto something, or maybe there's an even bigger
Speaker 1: quarterback surprise coming in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. I
Speaker 1: spent some time yesterday because Lord knows. I had plenty
Speaker 1: of time yesterday to not do anything, and I reached
Speaker 1: out to two sources and I said, help me understand
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's role with Tua, because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of NFL people who trust Nick Saban. This is what
Speaker 1: I got back. As important as the medical is for Tuah,
Speaker 1: it's critical what Nick Saban tells people in the league
Speaker 1: he trust, and that will be almost as critical. He's
Speaker 1: going to use the analogy of Drew Brees when he
Speaker 1: was in Miami injury concerns, Nick Saban passed on him
Speaker 1: and signed Dante Colepepper. Tua isn't the first Alabama player
Speaker 1: who has had medical questions going into the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: The source said, they practice so hard hard that after
Speaker 1: three years they're beat up. That's what they're trying to
Speaker 1: weigh here. And if you can't interview him, I can't
Speaker 1: work him out. I can't have my medical staff look
Speaker 1: at him and examine him. That's why Tuah is such
Speaker 1: a risk. If he's healthy, I think he's right on
Speaker 1: par with Joe Burrow. I like, how we go well,
Speaker 1: Tuah has two great receivers. They're going to be taken
Speaker 1: probably in the top twenty. Did you see who Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow was throwing too this year? See, you can't. And
Speaker 1: then I'll get this, Hey, Jordan Love had a bad
Speaker 1: year this year, but what about last year? And then
Speaker 1: you'll get people saying, yeah, that was last year, the
Speaker 1: previous season, but this season he wasn't good at all. Well,
Speaker 1: he had a depleted offense, and the previous year he
Speaker 1: had a pretty good offense. And then I'll go, well, wait,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow didn't have a great junior year, but we're
Speaker 1: not going to factor that in, but we're going to
Speaker 1: factor in what he did this past year. See. That's
Speaker 1: where it gets into this game of semantics, and it's
Speaker 1: dangerous because you can talk yourself into somebody and talk
Speaker 1: yourself out of somebody. I think the real drama like that.
Speaker 1: If anybody trades, then great. But if you look at this,
Speaker 1: Chase Young goes second, Bros. Going first? And then does
Speaker 1: Detroit do anything? And then I reached out to a source,
Speaker 1: you know, who has connections with Detroit, and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: do you think it's crazy what I'm saying? He goes, Now,
Speaker 1: I heard what you said about if you're Detroit and
Speaker 1: you're sold on Tua like Jeff Akuta is a defensive
Speaker 1: back from Ohio State. Okay, he's a really good player,
Speaker 1: But now they're starting to be a little bit of discussion.
Speaker 1: Is he the best defensive back? I don't do I
Speaker 1: want if it's Darrell Reevas, great, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm missing on something that is going to allow
Speaker 1: us to build something bigger in the future. And my
Speaker 1: source said, this staff has to win this year. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why they would stay with Stafford. Now if
Speaker 1: you said matt Patricia was just joining them like he
Speaker 1: was Mike McCarthy going to the Cowboys, then you could go,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe this is the last year with Stafford.
Speaker 1: We see what we have here, you know, are we
Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team? And you draft twa
Speaker 1: Because now I get the rookie deal, Now I can
Speaker 1: maybe get something mat Matthew Stafford. You know, maybe I
Speaker 1: could I could start to shape my team a little
Speaker 1: bit better like that. I also reached out to a source,
Speaker 1: which since you know, ties to Cincinnati, said what happens
Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton? And he said, when they draft Burrow,
Speaker 1: I think they're cutting Andy Dalton. And Andy Dalton is
Speaker 1: going to be thrown into the mix with Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: What will happen with Dalton and Cam Newton and even
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is after training camp. If there is a
Speaker 1: training camp, after training camp, somebody will sign them, but
Speaker 1: probably not leading up to, you know, training camp. That's
Speaker 1: probably what's going to happen. You know, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: coaches going in and go okay, we've had the draft,
Speaker 1: free agency, and if somebody gets injured or we don't
Speaker 1: like what we're seeing, then you're gonna have somebody come in.
Speaker 1: I also, I was busy yesterday. Here was another one
Speaker 1: that might surprise you because I was curious about. Let
Speaker 1: me see, we talked about Detroit Detroit playing hardball, squeezing teams.
Speaker 1: This is a do or die year for the staff.
Speaker 1: Have the feeling the Chargers are gonna sit if a
Speaker 1: quarterback drops to them, if not their coach believes in
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. I had one on Jalen Hurts here. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I have this trying to keep to okay,
Speaker 1: one possibility is Jalen Hurts Carolina. Now stay with me.
Speaker 1: You got Teddy for two years their quarterback coach was
Speaker 1: with him at Alabama Matt Rule, oh and two against
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts last year when Oklahoma played Baylor. That's his
Speaker 1: head coach. Offensive quarter offensive coordinator. Joe Brady was in
Speaker 1: New Orleans with Tayson Who So you might get a
Speaker 1: package like quarterback with Jalen Hurts going to Carolina to
Speaker 1: back up Jeddy Bridgewater. So just some of the items
Speaker 1: that I had yesterday. I was busy. I was busy
Speaker 1: yesterday going back and forth trying to find out and
Speaker 1: once again, the more I know, the less I know.
Speaker 1: Like I you know, I watched Justin Herbert and some
Speaker 1: of the descriptions on Jalen Hurt Justin Herbert, are they
Speaker 1: not a leader? He's not demonstrative, he doesn't speak up,
Speaker 1: he's done like, he's unfailingly polite, And I went, gosh,
Speaker 1: is he like Eli Manning unfailingly that's a negative. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the swag that Joe Burrow. I got that
Speaker 1: one yesterday. I said, Okay, but does Justin Herbert check
Speaker 1: a lot of boxes here? Oh yeah? Now, I sometimes
Speaker 1: you look at swag and you go, he's got too
Speaker 1: much swag, Like Joe Burrow, borders on too much swag
Speaker 1: When you meet him Boom, it's right there. But when
Speaker 1: you when you're playing well and win a national title
Speaker 1: and throwing sixty touchdown passes, yeah we love that swag. Yeah, Bay,
Speaker 1: If Justin Herbert becomes a star, he's cool, he's calm,
Speaker 1: he's unflappable. When you're you're unflappable. When you're a good
Speaker 1: quarterback who's low key, you're pulseless. When you're Jay Cutler
Speaker 1: and you're not in you're seven to nine. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know we had that problem with you know, guys
Speaker 1: who weren't demonstrative. You know, Jay Cutler doesn't care. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at he said, and there's no fire. I mean,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers cared as much as any quarterback. He didn't
Speaker 1: win anything. Joe Montana unflappable, right, Joe Montana, Yes, mc oven,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's not signing until August. What I can't handle
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and Jameis Winston or whatever. That training camp dating.
Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. Yes, that's that's what I was
Speaker 1: told that you're you know, this offseason is going to
Speaker 1: really hurt some of these players, including these quarterbacks. But
Speaker 1: it's going to be after training camp where one of
Speaker 1: these guys or all of them will be signed by somebody.
Speaker 1: But I was told because I said, Andy Dalton makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to still have him on the roster,
Speaker 1: and a source said, you know, when they draft Burrow,
Speaker 1: they'll probably cut Andy Dalton. And I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: poll question, McLevin, what do you have for me? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're talking about quarterbacks. If I gave you over under
Speaker 1: a two and a half quarterbacks in the top five,
Speaker 1: would you go over or under? So that means would
Speaker 1: three be drafted in the top five? Would two be
Speaker 1: drafted in the top five? Obviously with Burrow going number one,
Speaker 1: so it's a Herbert to or question. Do they are
Speaker 1: they gone by Miami? So I have to get somebody
Speaker 1: to trade up, because if you trade up, why isn't
Speaker 1: anybody trading up to ask about Chase Young? Like, I'm
Speaker 1: just curious. It's only the quarterbacks. Got I got Chase Young?
Speaker 1: Who is once in a generation. I'm told Edge Rusher,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody say, hey, are the Redskins open
Speaker 1: for business for Chase Young? Like I got that surprises me.
Speaker 1: Chase Young is considered the best player in the draft,
Speaker 1: and I've not heard one scenario where somebody goes you
Speaker 1: know that, I wouldn't be surprised if they go up
Speaker 1: and get Chase Young. Like when we look at a
Speaker 1: guy who disrupts a game, it's your quarterback and your
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Those are the two guys. It feels like
Speaker 1: the most important people on the field, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go trade up for Justin Herbert. We don't know how
Speaker 1: good he is, but Chase Young's the best guy in
Speaker 1: the draft. That guy's once in a generation. Nobody trading
Speaker 1: up to get Chase Young. I find that interesting. What
Speaker 1: else do you have? Mcleven, I would go I'll go
Speaker 1: under on the two and a half. I'll say that
Speaker 1: we have two quarterbacks top five. I saw another question
Speaker 1: three and a half as you open under in the
Speaker 1: top twelve, meaning does Jordan Love going to top twelve?
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Seems like that changes day to day.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're hearing. And it feels like
Speaker 1: the Raiders are really interested in Jordan Love in mel Kuiper. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I trust mel Kiper draft expert, but are the Raiders
Speaker 1: already with Mariota and car then gonna use a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick on Jordan Love. This is okay? So
Speaker 1: I ask about this with the Raiders and I couldn't
Speaker 1: get anybody who covers the Raiders are involved in the Raiders.
Speaker 1: And he said, well, if you're the Raiders, would you
Speaker 1: go after Jordan Love? And this scenario that was set
Speaker 1: up for me is the Broncos look like they have
Speaker 1: their quarterback, the Chiefs obviously have their quarterback, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers might be drafting two or Justin Herbert. So I'm
Speaker 1: talking about teams in that division. Are the Raiders comfortable
Speaker 1: with Derek Carr as their quarterback to match those other quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: And is Jordan Love going to be a Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: type player? You know, talent wise, because not everybody was
Speaker 1: sold on Patrick Mahomes. Let's not kid anybody. Andy Reid
Speaker 1: saw it, pounced on it, and we know that. You know,
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Is Jordan Love going to be
Speaker 1: that kind of player? Because if you watched Patrick Mahomes play,
Speaker 1: and yes I did because I have nothing to do
Speaker 1: in my life, he was incredibly athletic, made all the throws.
Speaker 1: But I had no idea how it would translate to
Speaker 1: the NFL because it looked like he was trying to
Speaker 1: be Brett Farve and he was just vamping out there.
Speaker 1: It was like backyard football in the Big twelve. And
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know if he can play in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but damn he's exciting in college football here.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love may be that guy. So once again, we
Speaker 1: talk ourselves into a pick, and out of a pick,
Speaker 1: somebody is going to pass on somebody. And that goes
Speaker 1: back to what I said about TWA on Monday. The
Speaker 1: fear of taking him and the fear of not taking him.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a big dilemma. Yeah, I mclovin.
Speaker 1: I also saw a lot of Jordan Love to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Like the Patriots, How would anyone know what the Patriots
Speaker 1: are interested in? That's why I was wondering, that's the
Speaker 1: one team you can't predict. We don't know. We speculate,
Speaker 1: but we don't know because Bill Belichick doesn't tell anybody anything.
Speaker 1: And why would you tell somebody unless I want to
Speaker 1: mislead you. That's really when the information gets out. And
Speaker 1: the only reason why I get information is, you know,
Speaker 1: scouts talk, Coaches don't talk, gms don't talk. Scouts talk
Speaker 1: amongst themselves. Hey, what do you think about this guy? Why? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of leaning towards maybe we're gonna take,
Speaker 1: you know, the wide receiver out of Arizona State. And
Speaker 1: I go, oh, right, that's how it works. They want
Speaker 1: to know what you know, and you know what you know.
Speaker 1: But it's only a cluster of these guys because they
Speaker 1: have to trust each other. I'll share information with you.
Speaker 1: We're not interested in that guy. Now, that's the interesting
Speaker 1: part of all of this. It's the deception that still
Speaker 1: continues and will lead up till probably a week from today,
Speaker 1: where maybe you start to get real information on what's happened.
Speaker 1: Do I think the Dolphins are going? Remember the Dolphins
Speaker 1: were all in on Joe Burrow. They were tanking for Tua.
Speaker 1: Now I'm hearing Justin Herbert. Some of it's bs and
Speaker 1: maybe all of it is. Yes. I love how the
Speaker 1: teams try to hide if there's a thing. A few
Speaker 1: years ago they had a documentary about the draft, or
Speaker 1: they look back the draft where I think the Jaguars
Speaker 1: take Blake boardles in the three spots. They didn't interview them,
Speaker 1: they didn't call them, they didn't invite them down for
Speaker 1: a workout. Which was really crazy to not do that
Speaker 1: due diligence. But they're trying to hide them, they're trying
Speaker 1: to hide their interest in them so they can just
Speaker 1: grab them. Any other poll questions mclovin. Yeah, so Kirk
Speaker 1: hasn't said it's refreshing not to play in front of fans,
Speaker 1: or we'll be refreshing, and you know why, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't get yelled at. That's why I get refreshing. No,
Speaker 1: so nobody yells at me or picks on me. That's
Speaker 1: the only other What other reason would you say it's refreshing.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you had some poll, if you're
Speaker 1: an NFL player, are you comfortable playing without fans? What
Speaker 1: do you think they would say? They just want to play,
Speaker 1: that's all they do. If you said you guys can
Speaker 1: come back no fans, or you can't come back, what
Speaker 1: are they gonna say they want to come back? Seaton?
Speaker 1: How are you this morning? I'm great. I'm listening to
Speaker 1: you talk about fans, though, and I just keep thinking
Speaker 1: of Lebron, who for some reason seems to be the
Speaker 1: one hard liner of like, I'm not playing if there's
Speaker 1: no fans. Yeah, I think he's trying to do sort
Speaker 1: of like this populous thing like hey, I'm here for
Speaker 1: the fans, but it's just slightly off with it. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I think he walked that back a little bit and
Speaker 1: rightfully so, Yeah, I think he had to walk that
Speaker 1: one back a little bit. Lebron, Do you want to
Speaker 1: play and maybe win a title or you can't play
Speaker 1: not if there's no fans in the crowd. I'll play
Speaker 1: you that, yes, loving But is it Kirk Cousins going
Speaker 1: too far to say it's refreshing to have no fans?
Speaker 1: Like is it somewhere in the middle between Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: and letron a Better plays? Well, yeah, but you got
Speaker 1: to pick a Kirk Cousins and how he plays like
Speaker 1: his career, fans haven't always been on his side. Yes,
Speaker 1: so when when he yells at you like that and
Speaker 1: then it echoes in the in the stadium, you like that?
Speaker 1: Like that? Like that, like that, like that, like, yes,
Speaker 1: hey Todd, how are you today? I'm doing great? How
Speaker 1: are you? Oh? I'm great. It's great to see everybody.
Speaker 1: What do you got on today? What you Maybe the
Speaker 1: fans can come, not come to those primetime games and
Speaker 1: just show up to the daytime games. Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 1: What do you got on today? I'm wearing an old
Speaker 1: school Houston Astro's kind of a training camps for training,
Speaker 1: you know, batting practice type of jersey. Everything you have
Speaker 1: is old school or old I'm still living in the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties. I know I was watching Rocky I
Speaker 1: since you guys a note no response from anybody, of course,
Speaker 1: but he was fighting Mason the line. But you know
Speaker 1: why I didn't respond because it's not a real fight,
Speaker 1: it's a movie. No, And you're tired of all my texts?
Speaker 1: No you were watching? Well, yes, I am tired of
Speaker 1: all your texts because when you bring it up or
Speaker 1: I bring it up then to you, then you go
Speaker 1: into your impersonation. I do do that, so that I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to do that in a text. I was
Speaker 1: gonna call you. I know you would do you want
Speaker 1: to do that now you want to do Rockies trainer,
Speaker 1: But you can't do it today. I can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned to send you more than the two texts
Speaker 1: and a half hour period because then you give me
Speaker 1: a please stop and a prayer emoji. Well you, but
Speaker 1: when you do play by play of something that happened
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. I know, I was excited. I was
Speaker 1: trying to share Rice coming to the plate. I go,
Speaker 1: it's nineteen seventy eight. I know how this ends. I know,
Speaker 1: but it was the Bucky Dead game, and I was
Speaker 1: just saying what I was watching, and I was having
Speaker 1: a moment with you. I was trying to have a
Speaker 1: moment with you. We don't need to have moments. We
Speaker 1: have so many moments. We don't need any more. Eighteen
Speaker 1: years of moments. Yeah, we don't. We're good on I
Speaker 1: have more moments with you than my wife probably. Yeah. Yes,
Speaker 1: Point Todd has this dark jersey on today and a
Speaker 1: dark hat and dark headphones and there's a dark background
Speaker 1: we had him. He looks like this big floating head
Speaker 1: of it. It's just a floating head with the same
Speaker 1: look on it for three hours. Yeah, and you don't blink.
Speaker 1: I don't blink. Yeah. The chat row notices you don't
Speaker 1: play very wide eyed and yeah, it must be a
Speaker 1: printed zone. I don't know. I don't sleep. I'm just
Speaker 1: a bit upsets, like three in the morning. Well, that's
Speaker 1: great to have you though, it's good to be here. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me see we're gonna have Pete Famil from Yahoo's Sports.
Speaker 1: I saw we're starting to cancel some sports. Not not
Speaker 1: postpone anything, We're canceling some of these secondary sports. These
Speaker 1: are budget moves, These are preemptive strikes here. Also, you know,
Speaker 1: Pete covers college football for Yahoo Sports, and I want
Speaker 1: to ask him about what Chris Fowler was talking about yesterday,
Speaker 1: and that is expanding the playoffs, because if you're looking
Speaker 1: at revenue for these conferences to have the trickle down
Speaker 1: for some of these other sports to survive, maybe you
Speaker 1: go from four to sixteen teams. So we'll talk to Pete.
Speaker 1: He'll join us. Coming up Steve Kerr a little bit
Speaker 1: later on. Richard Roper, the Chicago Suntimes movie critic, will
Speaker 1: join us as well as he reviews The Last Dance,
Speaker 1: the so called Jordan documentary. We'll take a break here
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Speaker 1: a tweet yesterday where Andy Dalton was in his backyard
Speaker 1: and he had his two little kids with him and
Speaker 1: he was throwing into a net and looked like about
Speaker 1: twenty five yards downfield and McLevin, you want to tell
Speaker 1: people what you put in that tweet? Oh, he had
Speaker 1: these two little kids in front of him, Like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's already working out with the Patriots wide receivers.
Speaker 1: And I said, that's a shot at our friend Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman and Andy Dalton's your buddy. No I. Dalton looked
Speaker 1: looked great in the video. Everyone was kind of like, whoa,
Speaker 1: we got to get him in camp. Do you see
Speaker 1: that arm? And my other joke that I didn't right
Speaker 1: by the way, it's those two little kids. Actually it's
Speaker 1: finally he gets a better O line than Cincinnati. WHOA, man,
Speaker 1: But I didn't put that. Yeah you didn't, but you
Speaker 1: thought it. I did think it, and Joe Burrow might
Speaker 1: want to. I thought it was really I thought it
Speaker 1: was really funny that you get undersized white wide receivers
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, and Andy had his two sons out
Speaker 1: there that was well done. Andy dal looked pretty good, right,
Speaker 1: can we judge anything? I got a bad backyard video.
Speaker 1: He threw two passes into a net. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: hit the net somebody. But I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to the other forty passes he threw. Did he like
Speaker 1: throw it in the neighbor's yard? Did he you know,
Speaker 1: hit the mailman? Like? We don't know that he edited it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're right, Andy Dalton wouldn't do something
Speaker 1: like that. I mentioned Jalen Hurts as a possible landing
Speaker 1: spot being Caroline, according to a source, because of the
Speaker 1: connections a lot of times. That's why when Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: when I was told at the Super Bowl, Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: looked for him to go to the Colts. There was
Speaker 1: a connection with the coaching staff there. The same with
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in Carolina. There's a connection with the coaching
Speaker 1: staff there. And the fact that Matt Rule coached against
Speaker 1: him twice last year at Baylor and lost both time
Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts. And you got it. Your offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach at Alabama and also he was
Speaker 1: in New Orleans with Taysom Hill. Then maybe you're looking
Speaker 1: at that possibility of that's that's your next quarterback in
Speaker 1: waiting with Teddy Bridgewater and Carolina. All right, we'll get
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. Age seven seven three d P show.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jalen Hurts player comp game. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, all right, all right, So if I looked
Speaker 1: at an NFL dot Com this is no this is now.
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com will throw that out there. You have
Speaker 1: to guess. Oh, man, I don't know where to go here.
Speaker 1: In some ways very much so he's very well liked
Speaker 1: in some ways and some ways not at all. More
Speaker 1: of a comparison on the field er off. I think
Speaker 1: you're going down the right passing. O'Connor. Use the word
Speaker 1: path as a hint. I've got to follow the path
Speaker 1: of righteousness. I'll show you the light. Todd, you want
Speaker 1: to guess, I was thinking Bridgewater, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: more of a religious type of a person. Water is
Speaker 1: not a running quarterback, No, Dan your final answer, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray NFL dot Com player comp for Jalen Hurts Timothy Tebow.
Speaker 1: I'm not even making that up. On Like Tebow, Hurts
Speaker 1: is a winning dual threat quarterback. Known for his strength, toughness,
Speaker 1: and character. There a little character in there. But wait,
Speaker 1: Tebow wasn't a good pro and Hurts have never done circumcisions.
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Yes? I confirmed that because you know
Speaker 1: what it hurts Tebow. Thank you? Right? Um will change
Speaker 1: change course here with Pete Tamil, who joinses the National
Speaker 1: College Football Basketball reporter for Yeah Who Sports. What do
Speaker 1: you think of Jalen Hurts. I like Jalen Hurts. The
Speaker 1: best piece of draft analysis I saw on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Jalens that had to be true was that a lot
Speaker 1: of people haven't picked for Baltimore. So you can back
Speaker 1: up Lamar and they can have a backup in their offense.
Speaker 1: You know, you can have Drew bledsoe back up Lamar Jackson. Right.
Speaker 1: You need someone who can of a similar skill set.
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily comparing them because I think Lamar
Speaker 1: in terms of quick twitch is certainly in his own stratosphere. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: on Jalen, I don't think he's an NFL starter at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like he will start NFL games,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's a He's a guy a franchise.
Speaker 1: We'll takers PAULI, would you steal Pete's comp and then
Speaker 1: we'll use that not give him any credit. Absolutely, that's
Speaker 1: a tradition. Okay, all right, Yeah I stole it too,
Speaker 1: So we're passing in along here. Yeah, welcome to this business.
Speaker 1: We don't give credit. Yeah, all right. A couple of
Speaker 1: things here. I saw where you were reporting that a
Speaker 1: couple of sports have been canceled Cincinnati with soccer, Old
Speaker 1: Dominion with wrestling, and I know that those don't garner headlines,
Speaker 1: but this is just the start. It feels like of
Speaker 1: the trickle down. That's a preemptive strike to cancel these programs.
Speaker 1: And we haven't lost any income yet with these college
Speaker 1: football programs. So why now? And how bad do you
Speaker 1: think this is going to get for the secondary sports
Speaker 1: based off of maybe no college football for while, I
Speaker 1: think we're certainly set up for One source told me Dan,
Speaker 1: I thought it was well, it was was a reset.
Speaker 1: The collegiate athletics model is completely upside down when you
Speaker 1: look at essentially one sport, two sports at some places,
Speaker 1: you know, providing I mean some places, I've over thirty sports.
Speaker 1: Some tell me to say there's a max school with
Speaker 1: twenty one I think Yukon has twenty six. So when
Speaker 1: you have one or two sports providing all of the
Speaker 1: money for another, you know at least fourteen, but in
Speaker 1: some cases over twenty. It's just not a tenable long
Speaker 1: term financial model. And I think financially athletic directors always
Speaker 1: look at the bottom line. I mean, Cincinnati, once they
Speaker 1: pay off the scholarships in the in the remaining staff
Speaker 1: is going to save eight hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: So it's eight million dollars over a decade. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of it's a lot of money. And certainly, I
Speaker 1: don't want to sound cold harder when I'm talking about this,
Speaker 1: because I'm talking about business decisions and these are lives
Speaker 1: and you know people, people's just teams are just ripped up,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's a difficult decision to make. And
Speaker 1: uh one who I called put it to put it
Speaker 1: to me this way, he said, he used the old
Speaker 1: Winston Churchill quota. Never waste a good crisis. So I
Speaker 1: don't think people woke up and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we're like, man, maybe we should cut sports. I think
Speaker 1: people had been looking at on their budgets for a
Speaker 1: long time, and this set of unique financial circumstances that
Speaker 1: we're going to come under because of coronavirus is going
Speaker 1: to allow them to do what they probably already already
Speaker 1: wanted even to meet in in the best cases, right
Speaker 1: like say September fifth, there's uh, you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand in the in the horseshoe for bowling green and
Speaker 1: et cetera everywhere around the country right now, I don't
Speaker 1: see that as particularly realistic. But you know, even if
Speaker 1: that happens, you're looking at donors who who who are
Speaker 1: staring at a at a twenty percent dip in their portfolio.
Speaker 1: You're you're looking at you know, people maybe don't want
Speaker 1: to go back to sporting event like you're you're you're
Speaker 1: looking at at a minimum. When I talk to ads,
Speaker 1: in the best case scenarios, they're looking at maybe have
Speaker 1: to account for a for a twenty percent dip in
Speaker 1: their budget. So you need places to save money. And
Speaker 1: if there is no football, I mean that's when all
Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. I'm also wondering about
Speaker 1: how this helps the economy if we do have sporting events,
Speaker 1: but we don't have fans going to the sporting events. Well,
Speaker 1: my thought on college is that you have to look
Speaker 1: at it different than the than the than the NFL,
Speaker 1: the NBA, in the in the NHLUM. I'm very confident.
Speaker 1: I wrote this to two three weeks ago. If there
Speaker 1: is no college, there will be no college sports. And
Speaker 1: I had a lot of you know, Bob Bullsby told
Speaker 1: me that you know, people have people, you know, athletic
Speaker 1: records are in the country. Have kind of said that.
Speaker 1: So no classes, no, no, no sports. Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: bring students back to campus. You can't have a football
Speaker 1: team go play unless you stop calling them student athletes
Speaker 1: and you just call them athletes athletic students. Yes, and
Speaker 1: that would be and that would just be a whole thing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how college football could thread the
Speaker 1: needle of well, it's safe for students to come to campus,
Speaker 1: it's safe for athletes to come to campus, but it's
Speaker 1: not safe to have visitors in a stadium that I
Speaker 1: think the percentage chance for college football with no fans
Speaker 1: is very low. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I
Speaker 1: think it's much more realistic. You know, you have NBA
Speaker 1: games in Vegas or in a cruise ship or whatever
Speaker 1: they're talking about, or even the NFL. Dan Watson wrote
Speaker 1: this two weeks ago, would be the hardest one to
Speaker 1: do all this because you've got to you know you can.
Speaker 1: You can throw the NBA in the NHL and a
Speaker 1: metaphorical Dakota. It's hard to do that with the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's just such a big, looming operation to move thirty
Speaker 1: two teams to one play. It would just be a
Speaker 1: logistical nightmare. So but for for college football, I'd be
Speaker 1: stunned if we had if we had games without fans.
Speaker 1: You take a look at the Florida's, the Ohio States,
Speaker 1: the you know your your your big, big programs. You're
Speaker 1: not going about fifty million dollars in ticket revenue alone.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a huge and certainly the
Speaker 1: TV revenue um is as much for those you know,
Speaker 1: for the big tens and the SEC's um. It's in
Speaker 1: that it's in that forty million dollar neighborhood. But I
Speaker 1: have a hard time imagining that from a liability standpoint,
Speaker 1: because you know you're going to have the complicating part
Speaker 1: of college too. And we're seeing this with Governor Newsom
Speaker 1: and maybe his projections now being as optimistic as President
Speaker 1: Trump's projections. In college like, there's municipalities, there's mayors, there's
Speaker 1: college presidents. Like. I mean, if there's one thing about
Speaker 1: college athletics, it's it's it's from a leadership perspective, it's
Speaker 1: very fraud you know, and it's it's it's very it's
Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, that's the problem is I And when
Speaker 1: I talked to Chris Fowler yesterday, he said, there's no
Speaker 1: singular voice here, like you have commissioners other sports. I'll
Speaker 1: leave you with this. I talked to Fowler about this,
Speaker 1: that you have four teams in the playoffs? Can you
Speaker 1: extend that and make it sixteen? Can you can you
Speaker 1: break that contract to make it sixteen? Therefore we have
Speaker 1: more revenue and then maybe by the end of the
Speaker 1: year we can have football where we have fans in
Speaker 1: the stands or I don't know if that. Chris said,
Speaker 1: everything's on the table. Do you think we could get
Speaker 1: to sixteen playoff teams? Well, I wrote this week that
Speaker 1: I think the playoff will change to accommodate finances, you know,
Speaker 1: in this crisis, like in terms of in terms of
Speaker 1: new revenue streams. That's one of the few certain ones
Speaker 1: that they could make. UM. In calling around to two
Speaker 1: people tied to the college football Playoff, the notion of
Speaker 1: changing it this year was like way off the table.
Speaker 1: They were like in even next year. UM, just because
Speaker 1: of the different bulls. It's tied to to different logistics. Now,
Speaker 1: look where you know they're going to be the you know,
Speaker 1: all all sports officials are going to be the goalies
Speaker 1: in on the head right trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to get sports inland the plane here. But I would
Speaker 1: be pretty surprised if they could just rip up a
Speaker 1: billion dollar contract. I mean, there's six years left on
Speaker 1: that twelve year deal, and when you when you really
Speaker 1: dive into it, there's just a lot of it looked
Speaker 1: as the ESPN have the money right now to just
Speaker 1: rip up the six most profitable years on a contract
Speaker 1: to expand the thing. I don't think that's that's a
Speaker 1: no brainer either, like it would be in better times.
Speaker 1: So I do think the Playoff does expand. I think
Speaker 1: the earliest we could see it, Dan is two years
Speaker 1: from now in I'd imagine we go to eight from there. Pete,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. We appreciate you joining us
Speaker 1: as always Dan, Thanks for That's Pete Famil, national college
Speaker 1: football basketball reporter for Yahoo Sports. He has a quote
Speaker 1: in his column, I think now that Cincinnati just did
Speaker 1: it and they got rid of soccer. Watched the next
Speaker 1: month set another athletic director from an FBS school. They
Speaker 1: cleared the way for other people to do it. Cincinnati
Speaker 1: puts it on a different level. Play the Day's up
Speaker 1: next your phone calls as well. We'll settle on our
Speaker 1: poll question as well after this. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Patrick Show Pod. Gurley took the number twenty one with
Speaker 1: the Falcons were number three in college. She wore thirty
Speaker 1: with the Rams. He goes to the Falcons, Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: says to him, don't take twenty one, and so he
Speaker 1: takes twenty one. Now, Todd Gurley had this to say
Speaker 1: about the conversation or the comments from Dion Sanders. Did
Speaker 1: you talk to Deani Gonna? Lets you Rock twenty one
Speaker 1: amen from Brown with hating on me? See me keep
Speaker 1: telling on? Where? Really? Why did they say that because
Speaker 1: it's time I will win? Nobody wear my number? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's the program is called the Midday Show.
Speaker 1: What I don't understand is and maybe they did ask him.
Speaker 1: I like, the obvious question is why are you picking
Speaker 1: twenty one? You have no ties to it? Is he
Speaker 1: doing it as a tribute and homage to Dion? Dan
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta for five years. By the way, other
Speaker 1: players who have worn number twenty one since Dion left
Speaker 1: Eric Metcalfe, Elijah Williams, Darien Gordon during Bolden, D'Angelo Hall,
Speaker 1: Chris Owens, Desmond Truffont, Dion Chill. At least you got
Speaker 1: a really good player wearing it and a Georgia native
Speaker 1: wearing it. They didn't retire it. Deon probably feels the
Speaker 1: whole league should retire twenty one for him. But can
Speaker 1: we ask Can somebody ask Todd Gurling, hey, why did
Speaker 1: you pick twenty one since you have no ties to it?
Speaker 1: And Paula said, do you think Dion's really man? I go, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Deon. Like Dion, I think realized the reaction he
Speaker 1: was getting, like Deon, chill, dude, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't think Dion was joking.
Speaker 1: I don't think for some reason did he say this
Speaker 1: about Desmond true Font, Hey don't wear twenty one? Like why?
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Yeah, Paulin. According to the NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Falcons and Cowboys traditionally don't retire numbers. They
Speaker 1: have rings of honor, but they don't really retire numbers. Well,
Speaker 1: the Falcons don't have any good players like Tommy Nobis,
Speaker 1: William Andrews, Steve bard Kowski, Like, who are you retiring? Deon? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to, Julio Jones, Matt Ryan, if you
Speaker 1: want to get around to that. But prior to that,
Speaker 1: Harmon wages Like, who are you're retiring? Yeah, mcclevin. What
Speaker 1: about that Jamali Anderson's Super Bowl team? Who's good on
Speaker 1: that team besides him? I can't remember it? Was it
Speaker 1: Chris Chandler. Chris Chandler the quarterback? Uh, Eugene Robinson. Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't go well and didn't on and off the field.
Speaker 1: H O. Other Falcons googling. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: great falcons that you're gonna have a ring of honor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you'd have a ring of honor and be one name. Maybe, well,
Speaker 1: they're eventually going to get around to a couple more
Speaker 1: a kiosk of honor, maybe like a little as you
Speaker 1: walk in, there's a little three ply thing, three numbers.
Speaker 1: The Dak Prescott situation. You know, Dak didn't apologize. Dak
Speaker 1: clarified about having a party at his place. It was
Speaker 1: a dinner party. Now he says that it was. He
Speaker 1: was disappointed in the report. Very frustrate, disappointing. That sounds
Speaker 1: like what Tony Romo says, very frustrating, disappointing, disappointing when
Speaker 1: people provide completely inaccurate information from anonymous sources. Especially now
Speaker 1: now this came from TMZ, And as much as you
Speaker 1: want to discredit TMZ, TMZ is one of the few
Speaker 1: places actually doing journalism or at least investigative reporting. They
Speaker 1: actually do. I don't know how they get all their information,
Speaker 1: but hey, they get their information, and I would trust
Speaker 1: them in this situation. I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: Dak had over there. I'm guessing he had more than
Speaker 1: ten and you know why because I looked at the spread.
Speaker 1: Look at the amount of food, and tell me that's
Speaker 1: for ten people. Now, if your offensive lineman came over,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't you wouldn't have that much food. But he
Speaker 1: wants to tell me that he only had ten people
Speaker 1: or less than ten people, and Zeke Elliott was there
Speaker 1: with him. It's not a good look there, it's not Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I get the feeling though, that Zeke Elliot could eat
Speaker 1: more than just his Wow, he looks like he has
Speaker 1: eaten more than he looks like a fellow who could
Speaker 1: put away some food. And if you're gonna have a party,
Speaker 1: and you know during this time, you just say to everybody,
Speaker 1: I want your cell phones here. Let's make sure we
Speaker 1: don't do any social media. This is just a party
Speaker 1: I want to have for you know, close front, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Tell them give me your phones. I take
Speaker 1: my kids phones when we go to dinner, just so
Speaker 1: I can get their attention. Good God, if they're your friends,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna bust you on social media. You know, Paul,
Speaker 1: I've had different with it. Just because he had a
Speaker 1: whole lot of food doesn't mean there's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of people the other day, we had thirty eight sausages
Speaker 1: on the grill for five guys. Now, if you would
Speaker 1: have walked by our grill and said, man, they're having
Speaker 1: a big thing over at the Dan Patrick's crew. They
Speaker 1: got thirty eight sausages on the grill. But that was
Speaker 1: the entire package that we made, right, But maybe dak overordered,
Speaker 1: over ordered. Okay, everybody got a sushi tray. Everybody got
Speaker 1: a tray of fries. There he had more than ten people,
Speaker 1: because that was the report he had maybe up to thirty.
Speaker 1: Now maybe he had a small part I could twist.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to support the local restaurants, so I can
Speaker 1: put in a big, huge order to support with the
Speaker 1: takeout because I know these are tough times. And then
Speaker 1: he's not doing the virtual OTAs like to me, it's
Speaker 1: a bad look for him, you know, be above the
Speaker 1: cowboys and Jerry Jones and say, hey, I'm still your
Speaker 1: I do this for the fans. I'm still your quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I'm not under contract. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this because I'm your quarterback. I'm your quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future. Here, by the way, I'm having a party
Speaker 1: this weekend if anybody wants to come over. Still got
Speaker 1: some leftovers. Those thirty people didn't need everything they should have,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. A review of the Jordan documentary coming up.