1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Stu Gotsen Company Live podcast. Be

2
00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040
Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday from three to

3
00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,440
Speaker 1: five pm Eastern noon to two pm Pacific on Fox

4
00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for Stug Gotsen Company

5
00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,960
Speaker 1: Live at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us

6
00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,240
Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

7
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,680
Speaker 2: Give this if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

8
00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh, We're not the only ones here. Monte Belanio's hanging out.

9
00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,239
Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam, it is a Friday. It is

10
00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,360
Speaker 3: Stu Gotson Company Live. Just know Stu Gotts, but you

11
00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,159
Speaker 3: got us as company on this Friday. Welcome in hit

12
00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,280
Speaker 3: Carry up at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find

13
00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,080
Speaker 3: me at dan Byer on Fox and you know darn

14
00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 3: well carry Roads. I'm gonna promote our Sunday show five

15
00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,519
Speaker 3: o'clock Eastern to Pacific, where we team up every weekend

16
00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,640
Speaker 3: and chop up all the stories that happen in sports

17
00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,920
Speaker 3: during the football season. We do our end Zone show

18
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000
Speaker 3: where we take you through the late window. And now

19
00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 3: we've got an NBA All Star Game, Daytona five hundred

20
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 3: and so much more to tackle this upcoming weekend, Dan.

21
00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,319
Speaker 4: If you weren't gonna do what I was gonna do it,

22
00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,200
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you got it out first. But it's

23
00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,000
Speaker 4: good to hear your voice. Man, it's been a it's

24
00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 4: been a what a week and a half, two weeks

25
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280
Speaker 4: possibly that I that I've been on with. Yes, you

26
00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,319
Speaker 4: went to some it's.

27
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,360
Speaker 3: Been a little yeah, yeah, because we're at the Super

28
00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,520
Speaker 3: Bowl all week and went to the game on Sunday.

29
00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,360
Speaker 3: You were in Alabama. So it's it's good to catch

30
00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 3: up and it's good to catch up with everyone here.

31
00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,039
Speaker 3: And we are talking what everybody is talking about. We're

32
00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,240
Speaker 3: talking about Utah Jazz basketball. It's the only time in

33
00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,440
Speaker 3: the last I think, I think you play about nineteen

34
00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,280
Speaker 3: right eight that the Utah Jazz have been the topic

35
00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,920
Speaker 3: of conversation. But they were the topic of conversation this

36
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,360
Speaker 3: week here on Stutt's and Company, and they've been the

37
00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,080
Speaker 3: topic of conversation throughout the NBA this week because of tanking.

38
00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120
Speaker 3: The NBA tried to put a stop to it yesterday

39
00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,600
Speaker 3: by handing down fines not only to the Utah Jazz

40
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,280
Speaker 3: but also to the Indiana Pacers. But it was the

41
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,480
Speaker 3: Jazz who were fined five hundred thousand dollars for conduct

42
00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,560
Speaker 3: detrimental to the league. That's how the league characterized it

43
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,239
Speaker 3: related to their games against the Magic and the Miami Heat.

44
00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,880
Speaker 3: Heat game happened earlier this week, Magic game almost a

45
00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,000
Speaker 3: week ago. It was during those contests that Laurie Markinen

46
00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,440
Speaker 3: and Jaron Jackson Junior were playing in the game and

47
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,080
Speaker 3: then were removed and didn't play in the fourth quarter.

48
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,080
Speaker 3: The crazy thing is is the Jazz actually ended up

49
00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,239
Speaker 3: beating the Heat in the game that they got fined

50
00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand dollars, something that Jazz owner Ryan Smith

51
00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,680
Speaker 3: pointed out on x But I find the outrage to

52
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,040
Speaker 3: what the Utah Jazz are doing, and it's specifically the

53
00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 3: Jazz because I don't hear people complaining about the Indiana Pacers.

54
00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 3: But I find it ridiculous and I find it almost

55
00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,799
Speaker 3: in a way hypocritical that we are piling on the

56
00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,639
Speaker 3: Utah Jazz for trying to better their organization. It may

57
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,760
Speaker 3: be tanking, but Carrie to the point that we haven't

58
00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:14,400
Speaker 3: spoken about the Utah Jazz and a national conversation in years,

59
00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,720
Speaker 3: maybe decades, and now this is the opportunity that we're

60
00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,200
Speaker 3: going to start talking about the Utah Jazz and do

61
00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,160
Speaker 3: it in a negative way. I find it absolutely ridiculous

62
00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,480
Speaker 3: because I have absolutely no problem with what the Utah

63
00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,200
Speaker 3: Jazz are doing.

64
00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean personally, I don't think I care either.

65
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,079
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't. I can't remember the last

66
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,840
Speaker 4: time I watched a Utah Jazz game besides when they

67
00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,640
Speaker 4: play Dallas, right, But other than that, I have no

68
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,400
Speaker 4: awareness of what that team is doing or what their

69
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,640
Speaker 4: idea of success is. So yes, I mean, obviously, league

70
00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,560
Speaker 4: why we have to find these stories, and you know,

71
00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960
Speaker 4: with the NBA and the viewership going down, I think

72
00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,600
Speaker 4: that's part of it, right, Like a lot of people

73
00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,560
Speaker 4: aren't quote unquote paying attention to basketball until around this

74
00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,360
Speaker 4: point when the football season's done. So I think with

75
00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,120
Speaker 4: the coupling of football going away, now basketball, you know,

76
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,080
Speaker 4: supposedly being in the forefront right now, we have to

77
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 4: have conversations.

78
00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:10,040
Speaker 3: Right.

79
00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,320
Speaker 4: You can't talk about Lebron forever, can't talk about Steph Curry,

80
00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,479
Speaker 4: he's been hurt. OKAC is kind of the boring team

81
00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,359
Speaker 4: that's really good, Like there's there's not a lot of storyline.

82
00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,479
Speaker 4: So I understand why so many people are talking about

83
00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,360
Speaker 4: it because they need to, they need something to cling

84
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 4: on hang on to as far as giving the NBA life,

85
00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,800
Speaker 4: So that's probably why it's it's happening. But yeah, I

86
00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,560
Speaker 4: don't think anybody like personally, I don't. I don't care.

87
00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,760
Speaker 4: They're not hurting hurting my watching experience by seeing them

88
00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,520
Speaker 4: play basketball or not seeing Laurie Marketing play, you know

89
00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,640
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, it's not a big deal, and.

90
00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,719
Speaker 3: I'm curious and what what Moncey and Jason and Sam

91
00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,640
Speaker 3: may think about the whole deal. I know, Manzi is

92
00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,799
Speaker 3: a huge She's smiling.

93
00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,760
Speaker 4: I said, she's smiling now ready.

94
00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bringing it, bringing Manzi? Is this ridiculous that

95
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,640
Speaker 3: the NBA find or the Jazz Act?

96
00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,320
Speaker 5: I thought it was ridiculous. I am with you, guys.

97
00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,440
Speaker 5: I feel like they did what they're supposed to do.

98
00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,120
Speaker 5: They played the stars. I'm confused here. I'm confused. So

99
00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,799
Speaker 5: I when I saw this, I was like, this is funny.

100
00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440
Speaker 5: It's funny because the NBA is just like so desperate

101
00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,440
Speaker 5: and yet can't make the right decisions.

102
00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,880
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's desperation on people that

103
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 3: want to complain about the NBA, that trying to find

104
00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,599
Speaker 3: something that now now we're up in arms over tanking,

105
00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,799
Speaker 3: and I don't think that the product is magnificent right now.

106
00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,520
Speaker 3: There is something missing. I think it is a bigger

107
00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 3: issue on why maybe the NBA is because I've heard

108
00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,119
Speaker 3: various topics on social media, various outlets on social media

109
00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,000
Speaker 3: talk about this topic. We did it on Fox Sports

110
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,599
Speaker 3: radio shows talking about the NBA and why it's resonating.

111
00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,280
Speaker 3: And I feel that there's a bit of an NFL

112
00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,680
Speaker 3: football hangover when it comes from it. But to your point,

113
00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,840
Speaker 3: care we're right out of the Super Bowl, so now

114
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,200
Speaker 3: let's talk about the NBA. And the easiest thing to

115
00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,280
Speaker 3: do about the NBA is complained, and I just I

116
00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,359
Speaker 3: don't want to complain about the Utah Jazz because I

117
00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,560
Speaker 3: don't think that the Jazz are doing it in a

118
00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,159
Speaker 3: way that we have looked at tanking previously. And I

119
00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560
Speaker 3: think the reason why the Jazz, there's two reasons why

120
00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,240
Speaker 3: I think that this has become a story, and I

121
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,200
Speaker 3: think it's because of people wanting to complain about the

122
00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,240
Speaker 3: NBA and trying to find something to be negative about,

123
00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,600
Speaker 3: and the Jazz pulling their players, which is for whatever

124
00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,159
Speaker 3: reason that they have offensive to some the other fact

125
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,560
Speaker 3: is is I think gambling plays a big role in this,

126
00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,960
Speaker 3: and because of how gambling has exploded in the landscape.

127
00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,960
Speaker 3: If you're making a bet on the Utah Jazz and

128
00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,599
Speaker 3: you have them covering a certain number and you aren't sure.

129
00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,599
Speaker 3: Now we know that Jared Jackson Junior is not going

130
00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,720
Speaker 3: to play the rest of the season, which is a

131
00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,000
Speaker 3: part of this conversation, but not maybe the immediate part.

132
00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,440
Speaker 3: But if you're placing a bet and your bet is

133
00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,040
Speaker 3: lost because of the Jazz's willingness to sit their stars

134
00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,960
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, then I can see why you're angry.

135
00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,400
Speaker 3: And that's why I think this has become a topic.

136
00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,800
Speaker 3: And I know that the NBA doesn't love tanking, and

137
00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,640
Speaker 3: maybe there's a way that they're getting this message out there,

138
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,280
Speaker 3: but I would have to think that gambling also plays

139
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,360
Speaker 3: a role in it because from a competitive standpoint, as

140
00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,520
Speaker 3: are eighteen thirty eight, they're nine games back of the

141
00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,680
Speaker 3: playing tournament right now in what was a lost season,

142
00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,560
Speaker 3: there would really not be a reason for them to

143
00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,440
Speaker 3: win games. And I would say that for the history

144
00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,880
Speaker 3: of the NBA, because of how the lottery is set up,

145
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,160
Speaker 3: especially in a weighted lottery like it was last year

146
00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,600
Speaker 3: that this has been going on and on and on

147
00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,360
Speaker 3: and on, and because the Jazz, who are in a

148
00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,480
Speaker 3: unique situation that other teams figured out a way to

149
00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,600
Speaker 3: acquire a top level player that will be great for

150
00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,480
Speaker 3: their future, but they don't want they want to protect

151
00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880
Speaker 3: their investment. Now are thought of as the bad guy

152
00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400
Speaker 3: in the NBA, and I just I find that ridiculous.

153
00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,000
Speaker 4: There, that's a good point about the betting. But I'm

154
00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,360
Speaker 4: going to offer up to the betting world anybody that's

155
00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,920
Speaker 4: out there betting UH, the wise thing to do with

156
00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,360
Speaker 4: not to be not to bet on the Utah Jazz

157
00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,400
Speaker 4: and UH and not their players as well, because obviously

158
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880
Speaker 4: we know that. But Dan, it's a hundred you might

159
00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,680
Speaker 4: be onto something with that though, with the betting part

160
00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,120
Speaker 4: of it, because obviously the financial principles that the league

161
00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,080
Speaker 4: and the fines that they sent out to Utah. I mean, what,

162
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,199
Speaker 4: what really is five hundred thousand to an organization. I

163
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,280
Speaker 4: don't think it's I think it's a slap on the wrist.

164
00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,160
Speaker 4: But to their betters and to their supporters and the

165
00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,320
Speaker 4: people that are one hundred percent losing a lot of

166
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 4: money in these in these gambling circles, trying to guess

167
00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,360
Speaker 4: points and rebounds and all that stuff when you're not

168
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,040
Speaker 4: playing the allotted times. It's just it is. It is

169
00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,720
Speaker 4: a little bit of a hit to the hit to

170
00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,000
Speaker 4: the betting world, for sure.

171
00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,240
Speaker 3: I give the Indiana Pacers they they are They got

172
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,160
Speaker 3: fined one hundred thousand dollars, But no one is complaining

173
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,160
Speaker 3: that Indiana is tanking this year. And one of the

174
00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 3: reasons why is because they don't have Tyre's Halliburton. But

175
00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,160
Speaker 3: when you look at what Indiana has and what they

176
00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,080
Speaker 3: could have depending on what they get in the draft,

177
00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,320
Speaker 3: I think people would say that's if you were to

178
00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,920
Speaker 3: have an injury to a star player in a off

179
00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,679
Speaker 3: of a team that just was in the NBA Finals

180
00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,000
Speaker 3: that went to a seventh game with the eventual NBA champion,

181
00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,959
Speaker 3: and you lost your star player. If you could bottom

182
00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,920
Speaker 3: out that next year, knowing that there would be no

183
00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,640
Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburton at all, and get a top player in

184
00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,400
Speaker 3: a draft that is thought to be one of the

185
00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,480
Speaker 3: strongest that we have had in some time, I think

186
00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,920
Speaker 3: people would say that that's fortunate timing, Like in a way,

187
00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640
Speaker 3: it's bad luck that Haliburton had his injury, but this

188
00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,240
Speaker 3: could set things up. It's set the San Antonio Spurs

189
00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,680
Speaker 3: up right for the David Robinson at his back injury.

190
00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,800
Speaker 3: How fortunate that he ends up having a back injury

191
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,320
Speaker 3: that costs him most of his season, and then that

192
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,760
Speaker 3: following year they get the number one pick in the

193
00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,319
Speaker 3: draft and draft him. Duncan, Are we sitting there complaining

194
00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,120
Speaker 3: about the San Antonio Spurs not winning games. No, we're

195
00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 3: talking about the Spurs dynasty and Greg Popovich and Tim

196
00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,520
Speaker 3: Duncan and the great picks of Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.

197
00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,079
Speaker 3: But that was all set up because of an a

198
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,000
Speaker 3: fortunate injury. And we're not talking about the Indiana Pacers.

199
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,400
Speaker 3: So for some reason, it's okay for the Indiana Pacers

200
00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,200
Speaker 3: to tank, but it's not okay for the Utah Jazz, who,

201
00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,880
Speaker 3: by the way, gave up assets to get a star

202
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,320
Speaker 3: player prior to the NBA trade deadline. I think that

203
00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640
Speaker 3: would be good for the NBA for them to go

204
00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,480
Speaker 3: out and get Jaron Jackson Junior and say, you know what,

205
00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,240
Speaker 3: this guy could be a piece that could help us

206
00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,560
Speaker 3: for years to come and be a big part of

207
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,880
Speaker 3: our future, not just a small part, but a big

208
00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,160
Speaker 3: part of our future. I think that's good for the

209
00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,000
Speaker 3: NBA and to protect that investment in a year where

210
00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720
Speaker 3: we've only got two months left of the season, who

211
00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,120
Speaker 3: really cares. But for some reason we're throwing darts and

212
00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,080
Speaker 3: taking shots at the Utah Jazz when I think they're

213
00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,200
Speaker 3: actually making smart basketball decisions.

214
00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,640
Speaker 4: Oh, they are making smart basketball decisions for the organization.

215
00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 4: The thing about Utah and what I hear when I

216
00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,880
Speaker 4: when I see the stories on them or read the

217
00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,000
Speaker 4: stories on them, is and even in the games I

218
00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,559
Speaker 4: seen them with with Dallas, right, they have a they

219
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,000
Speaker 4: have assets to be competitive and written in games regardless

220
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,000
Speaker 4: they're they're They don't have like top top tier players

221
00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 4: Laurie's really good, but they have guys that compete and

222
00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,880
Speaker 4: their coaches are really good coaching. So when the product

223
00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,959
Speaker 4: that you know can be put out there, as a

224
00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,200
Speaker 4: real fan like again like for me, it doesn't doesn't matter,

225
00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 4: but as a real fan of them, when you when

226
00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,080
Speaker 4: that product that you know is there and you know

227
00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,280
Speaker 4: they can compete, and it seems like they're taking the

228
00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800
Speaker 4: foot off the gas with the competing part of it,

229
00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,880
Speaker 4: I think that can be the problem. But I don't

230
00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,600
Speaker 4: see the Jazz not competing. I think they still compete

231
00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,200
Speaker 4: really well. So the whole, the whole problem with this

232
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,880
Speaker 4: whole deal or the fake the problem with it all

233
00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,080
Speaker 4: is just obviously something that's going on internal or somebody

234
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,960
Speaker 4: that has something else attached to that watching and play

235
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,040
Speaker 4: and experience, you know what I mean.

236
00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the NBA wants to do something with tanking,

237
00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,559
Speaker 3: then stop having a weighted lottery. Yeah, stop rewarning teams

238
00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,720
Speaker 3: for being the worst, because that's what you're doing. And

239
00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,240
Speaker 3: I think the Utah Jazz are saying, even with a

240
00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,920
Speaker 3: weighted lottery, they had a fourteen percent chance of getting

241
00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,680
Speaker 3: the number one pick last year. Uh huh, Okay, there's

242
00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,440
Speaker 3: the best of any team in the NBA except Washington

243
00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,440
Speaker 3: and Charlotte, who also had a fourteen percent chance of

244
00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,640
Speaker 3: getting the number one pick last year. Well, who got

245
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,199
Speaker 3: the number one pick? The Dallas Mavericks who didn't pick

246
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,160
Speaker 3: until fourth, The Charlotte Hornets who didn't pick you know,

247
00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,320
Speaker 3: until fifth, the Utah Jazz who didn't pick until sixth,

248
00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,280
Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards. So so those teams tank, they're then

249
00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,160
Speaker 3: not rewarded for it because they ended up not not

250
00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,200
Speaker 3: getting the first overall pick. But still I would rather

251
00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,360
Speaker 3: have a fourteen percent chance than the one percent that

252
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,920
Speaker 3: the Mavericks had or the eight percent that other teams had,

253
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080
Speaker 3: or the three percent. I still would rather have a

254
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,760
Speaker 3: fourteen percent chance. And that incentivizes tanking. So if the

255
00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,480
Speaker 3: NBA wants to really do something about it, instead of

256
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,160
Speaker 3: finding teams five hundred thousand dollars, why don't you just

257
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,599
Speaker 3: not have a weighted lottery, right? That would be That

258
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,720
Speaker 3: would be the solve all. Then you could continue to

259
00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,560
Speaker 3: win games, and if you don't make the playoffs, you

260
00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,080
Speaker 3: still have the same amount of chance of getting your

261
00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,480
Speaker 3: top player. Then you would have maybe just missing out

262
00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,000
Speaker 3: on making the eight team bracket or losing in the

263
00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,720
Speaker 3: playing tournament.

264
00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,120
Speaker 4: Same sort of deal, Dan, I saw a scenario where

265
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,760
Speaker 4: they said the bottom teams that were tanking they would

266
00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200
Speaker 4: have to actually there would be a scenario in the

267
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,640
Speaker 4: future or possibility of a scenario where those teams had

268
00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,079
Speaker 4: to play it out for that top lottery spot. What

269
00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,960
Speaker 4: do you think about that? I think it's no. I

270
00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,600
Speaker 4: think it's I don't want to watch terrible basketball team

271
00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,200
Speaker 4: try to try to win win the lottery. But that

272
00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,640
Speaker 4: was an idea of floating around.

273
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,959
Speaker 3: Well, Also, they don't care. Again, players don't care where

274
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,680
Speaker 3: their team picks. Fans care, coaches care, front office's care.

275
00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160
Speaker 3: The only players that don't care about where their team

276
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,080
Speaker 3: picks is those players on that team, So why would

277
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,200
Speaker 3: they play hard? Nobody's like, oh, I am so jacked

278
00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,600
Speaker 3: because I want us to get aj Devonsa right, Like

279
00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,200
Speaker 3: there's oh wait, he plays the same position I do,

280
00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,120
Speaker 3: so then they'll ship me out of town Like that

281
00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,560
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense, Like I don't. I don't know

282
00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520
Speaker 3: why people think of such stupid ideas. It is. It

283
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,600
Speaker 3: is so dumb, it's it's moronic. It's as dumb as

284
00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,600
Speaker 3: this argument as well. I also think this. I think

285
00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:47,120
Speaker 3: it's easy to point to this because we're people didn't

286
00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,880
Speaker 3: pay attention. They're not paying attention to the Eastern Conference

287
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,760
Speaker 3: outside of of the Knicks, I mean even the Celtics,

288
00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,600
Speaker 3: who have had an amazing year without Jason Tatum, Jaln

289
00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 3: Brown's in the MVP conversation. Outside of Boston, nobody's really

290
00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 3: talking about the Boston Celtics or the Eastern Conference. So

291
00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,640
Speaker 3: what's the way to do. Let's find the topic or

292
00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,520
Speaker 3: something that again where we can complain about the NBA,

293
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,920
Speaker 3: and let's do it, and the Utah Jazz in tanking

294
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 3: because it is a wide scoping sort of topic I

295
00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 3: think is low hanging fruit that want to complain. But

296
00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,320
Speaker 3: I commend the Jazz for going after Jared Jackson Junior.

297
00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,960
Speaker 3: I commend the Jazz for playing those guys at least

298
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,080
Speaker 3: in games. That right, that's the big thing. Where what

299
00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,080
Speaker 3: was it this past week when the Lakers didn't have Lebron, Luca,

300
00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves and Marcus Smart didn't play, so they play

301
00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,560
Speaker 3: the Spurs and it's this awful, awful starting lineup. Guess what,

302
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880
Speaker 3: at least Jaron Jackson and Laurie market And played in

303
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,920
Speaker 3: the game. If you made a trip to go and

304
00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,480
Speaker 3: watch those players, at least they ended up playing in

305
00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,120
Speaker 3: the game. And the Utah Jazz are trying to protect

306
00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,600
Speaker 3: themselves for what could be a strong year in a

307
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,080
Speaker 3: very difficult Western Conference. It's just it's it's ridiculous that

308
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,560
Speaker 3: people are trying to ramp up this and putting it

309
00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,560
Speaker 3: all on the Utah Jazz. I commend the Jazz for

310
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,080
Speaker 3: what they're doing.

311
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need something to talk about, Dan, Yeah, that's

312
00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920
Speaker 4: that's really what it boils down to.

313
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,920
Speaker 3: Brother, Well, Lebron James is always the topic of conversation.

314
00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,520
Speaker 3: He had something to say last night that may have

315
00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,360
Speaker 3: you roll your eyes. It is Stuve gottson Company Live.

316
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,680
Speaker 3: But there's no Stu Gotts, but you've got the company.

317
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 3: He is the all pro. Carry Rhads, I'm Dan Bayer,

318
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,960
Speaker 3: Monte Bolanos is here, Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam all

319
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,600
Speaker 3: hanging out.

320
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,760
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company Live.

321
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000
Speaker 2: Wheat Day said three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

322
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,480
Speaker 3: Stuve gottson Company Live on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer,

323
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,800
Speaker 3: Stu's not here, but we're the company. Kerry Rhads, the

324
00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,400
Speaker 3: all Pro, Monty Belanios, Jason Stewart, Iowa Sam is he,

325
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,440
Speaker 3: mikey A. Taylor, Stuve Gotts. We'll be back next week. Yes,

326
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,080
Speaker 3: Sirs has been on the go go go from South

327
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,679
Speaker 3: Florida to the Super Bowl to Chicago. So out today,

328
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,560
Speaker 3: but we've got him covered. Also out of the game.

329
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,520
Speaker 3: Chris Paul carry Roads. I don't know if you hear

330
00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,680
Speaker 3: Moncey's voice kind of, you know, kind of cracking on

331
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,159
Speaker 3: the news. Chris Paul sad Day, sad Day in the

332
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,439
Speaker 3: NBA carry for some sad day Manzi for you. As

333
00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,440
Speaker 3: Chris Paul calls it quits after twenty one.

334
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 5: Years, I'm super upset. What I'm really upset about is

335
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,680
Speaker 5: that I my jersey is at my parents' house or

336
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480
Speaker 5: else I would have been wearing it would have worn today. Yeah,

337
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 5: I went through my closet. I was like, it has

338
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560
Speaker 5: to be in my parents' house. Where's half of my

339
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,280
Speaker 5: stuff is still there?

340
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:35,399
Speaker 3: How?

341
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,639
Speaker 4: How sad is it? Were you? Monci? Like what I mean?

342
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,480
Speaker 4: I know he was a really good player with the Clippers,

343
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 4: and obviously he is.

344
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,960
Speaker 5: He is lop City, you know what I'm saying, along

345
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000
Speaker 5: with like Blake Griffin, of course. But I think what

346
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 5: makes me so extra sad about the situation is what

347
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,439
Speaker 5: happened this year with the Clippers. That really hurts me

348
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,600
Speaker 5: because that's not how he wanted to go out. Yeah,

349
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,640
Speaker 5: and I don't think that's how many people wanted him

350
00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 5: to go out.

351
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 6: And I and I was like, I will pay to

352
00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 6: go watch Chris Paul.

353
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,000
Speaker 5: I went to open I've never been to an opening

354
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,280
Speaker 5: day for the Clippers, and I went this year to

355
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 5: see Chris Paul's last opening day. And then they took

356
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,800
Speaker 5: away my option to do that again the rest of

357
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,879
Speaker 5: the season, even if it was to watch him ten minutes,

358
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

359
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 4: And so that's what.

360
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,359
Speaker 5: Makes me super sad about it. But I mean, what

361
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 5: an amazing career, you know.

362
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 2: Point god, point god. He did, he did, he did.

363
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 7: It was very exciting.

364
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,960
Speaker 4: Did Yeah, Dan, what's your what's your over overarching I

365
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 4: guess response to this or do you have any feelings

366
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 4: towards Chris Paul in his retirement?

367
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do, because I do, because I just feel

368
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 3: that there is there was so many opportunities for him,

369
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 3: for his narrative around him to change, and it just

370
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 3: couldn't happen for like specifically, and I know Manti doesn't

371
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 3: want to hear this in Houston, in being so close

372
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 3: to an NBA five. Yeah, and then his body breaks down.

373
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 3: So like Chris Paul, for as great as he was

374
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 3: in all of the accolades and the All Star Games

375
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 3: and the All NBA nominations and the Hall he'll be

376
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame with all of that, I

377
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: still can't get past that Chris Paul is the guy

378
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 3: who is maybe just a little bit difficult to deal

379
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 3: with and his body breaks down in the most inopportune times.

380
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 3: And I know that's a really crappy way to send

381
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 3: off a player after a twenty one year career on

382
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: the day that he retires, But that's how I feel

383
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: about Chris Paula.

384
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 4: You know the same thing with me. I mean, obviously

385
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 4: he's been a nemesis of mine, been a Dallas Maverick

386
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 4: fan for a long time and just no obviously, even

387
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 4: in college, I was a Duke fan right he was awake.

388
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 4: So I've always kind of been quote unquote against him

389
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,719
Speaker 4: because he's been on the other team. But you can

390
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: also appreciate his greatness and when he came in the league,

391
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 4: and you know, really like I mean you think about

392
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 4: your old school prototypical point guards, he would have been

393
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 4: writing now mix, right, I mean after John Stockton leads,

394
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he comes in and kind of takes that

395
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 4: mantle and runs with it. And he's very similar to

396
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 4: Stockton in the sense of how he controlled the game,

397
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 4: how we Obviously he's one of the top assist guys

398
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: ever and being able to manipulate defenses, and obviously when

399
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: you think of a floor general, you put him right

400
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 4: in those conversations. But again. Yeah, you're right, you hit

401
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 4: the nail on the head. It's like, with all that

402
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: being said, you would think that that person would win one,

403
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 4: but then you think about you know, the past, and

404
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 4: John Stockton didn't win one, so you got to put

405
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 4: them in the same kind of category. I don't know

406
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 4: when it's all said and done, where he fits in

407
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 4: the pantheon of great point guards as far as you know.

408
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 4: I guess we value winning in that league a lot

409
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 4: more so, I mean, where would you like rank Himdan?

410
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 4: I know we don't want to. I want to give

411
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: him credit. I mean, I think he's one of the

412
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 4: top five ever, but where do you where do you

413
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 4: put him in your in your point guard rankings?

414
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: I don't have.

415
00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: Well, make one up, d make one up. Let's have month.

416
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 4: Let's as monthsia and see what do you have a

417
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 4: ring top?

418
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 5: Maybe for me, because like it's like I John Stockton

419
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 5: was great, right, but it's like I feel like I

420
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 5: watched John Stockton through the eyes of my dad, like

421
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 5: that was one of his favorite players. So it's like

422
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 5: I think John Stockton would have to be also in

423
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 5: the top but he's probably in my top five Chris

424
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 5: Paul For me, is probably in my top five.

425
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is.

426
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 5: Like he was kind of like a little bit of

427
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 5: a dirty player at times, you know, like he was

428
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 5: not the cleanest player. He's no Dylan Brooks or no

429
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 5: Draymond Green, but he had a little bit of that

430
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 5: where he uh where he like instigated situations where he

431
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 5: made things worse, and like he he had a little

432
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 5: bit yeah, let's say edge, but he's a little thirty.

433
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 7: But I loved him.

434
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 5: I loved him, and the few times I ever had

435
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 5: interactions with him off the court, he genuinely was a

436
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 5: really nice guy. It's like on the court, it was

437
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 5: like a flip, you know, he flipped the switch and

438
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 5: it was like, I want to take you down. But

439
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 5: there was never that type of attitude that I ever

440
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: had interacting with him off the court.

441
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, my greatest point guard of all time is Magic Johnson.

442
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: That's that's who I would put uh at the top.

443
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: I'd probably put Stockton second. And now that I've got

444
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: I've got names in front of me, like do I

445
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: think he's better than Steve Nash?

446
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 6: That's who I was going to bring up.

447
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 5: Steve Nash for me too, is a top.

448
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say he's better than Steve Nash. Yeah,

449
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: I would you think so I would.

450
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if one's five and one six

451
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: and one six and one's five, but like I i'd

452
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: rather have Isaiah Thomas of course, so like I would

453
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: put Isaiah Thomas above them. And now we're talking about

454
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: rings as well. But I mean, for what Isaiah was

455
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: to the Pistons and who he was, the numbers don't

456
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: match up to what Paul did in over twenty one years.

457
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: You're going to have some monster numbers. But I would

458
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: just put I would put some of those names. And

459
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 3: it's more of I say era, like I can't tell

460
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: you about the seventies and sixties, start with the eighties exactly,

461
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: but like like you like a magic and Isaiah I

462
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: would have above him, and I would have stocked in

463
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: above him. But yeah, probably somewhere on around five or six.

464
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And when you saw naming names, it is

465
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: kind of like hold on, let me let me rethink it.

466
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 6: I want to split this here here it is, I mean.

467
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 4: You want to go away back to like the Pistol

468
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: Pizez and the John Haplche's. Obviously we didn't see them play,

469
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 4: so it's it's hard to hard to say, but I

470
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: would guess our top five or my top five as

471
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 4: far as seeing it, Yeah, probably, he's definitely in there

472
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 4: for me.

473
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: I would also say, there's there's guys who played the

474
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: point guard position but aren't point guards, you know what

475
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Like like Kyrie's not a point.

476
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: Guard, Like, yeah, he's a combo guard for sure, right yep.

477
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So when we're talking about that, there is

478
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: a blend of it, you know, Steph, And I mean like, yeah,

479
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: you know, at the point at times, but he's not

480
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: the point guard that we're trying to judge the Chris Paul,

481
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Steve Nashes of the world. Right So I think that's

482
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: what makes it tricky.

483
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 5: He may be like, right now, is there a true

484
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: point guard in the NBA right now?

485
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 4: Halliburton?

486
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Okay, okay, okay, I like that one. I

487
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: honestly wouldn't have even like I especially because we have

488
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 5: been watching him this season. But yeah, okay, aside from him,

489
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 5: what Draymond? No, you know what I mean, Like Draymond's

490
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 5: a point center. Like we don't have a point god anymore.

491
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: No, No, said Jason sam Bronson. What do you think Jalen.

492
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: I think he's more common because he's you know, it's like, because.

493
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, like, what's I'm blanking out on

494
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: his name, Atlanta Hawks.

495
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 7: Not anymore.

496
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 5: He's now a wizard Trey, thank you.

497
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 4: But he's also not really a facilitator like that. It's

498
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: hard because they are facilitators and they get their assists,

499
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 4: but they don't the game.

500
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: It's not like that.

501
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the game is. The positionlessness of basketball is

502
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: just has changed it and so maybe maybe even an

503
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: end of an era, like a way, maybe that's the

504
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: way to look at it, if you're looking at Chris

505
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: Paul's legacy. Time now for our tire rack Player of

506
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: the Day. For over forty years, ti Iraq has been

507
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: helping customers find the right tires for how, what and

508
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: where they drive. Ship Fast and free back by free

509
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: Road has a protection with convenient installation options like mobile

510
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: tire installation tiraq dot Com the way tire buying should be.

511
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: As I said, Time now for our Tierraq Play of

512
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: the Day.

513
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 8: Dall Let's trying to regain the lead and Christy turns

514
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 8: it over James the locomotive to the realm Lebron James.

515
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: A spin and finish.

516
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: Lakers get the win.

517
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 8: The Mavericks strump their ninth in a row, the triple

518
00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 8: double for Lebron James. They pull away against the one

519
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 8: twenty four, so one oh four the.

520
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: Final bad job by Iron Eagle but not calling the

521
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: MAVs Kerry Rhodes's maps. But are you happy to see

522
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: the MAVs lose that game?

523
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 4: I'm just happy we're not in in the final thoon.

524
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: We're not getting fined anything for taking at this point,

525
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: Cooper's sitting out. He's gonna be healthy next year. We're

526
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 4: gonna get a good pick and we'll be back in

527
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: the mix next year. Dan, I'm okay, I'm all right.

528
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see why U Tah Jazz are doing nothing wrong.

529
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: But after the win last night, Lebron James, well, let's

530
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: just say this, guys, Lebron James was being Lebron James.

531
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 9: M I'm a goofy ass forty one year old kid.

532
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 9: I think people should know that by now, right, that's

533
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 9: just me. I'm I'm just a goofy. I got to

534
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 9: play basketball, like they paid me to play basketball, Like

535
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 9: why would not be happy about that? I got to

536
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 9: be with my son and my teammates and people, all

537
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 9: these unbelievable fans. They've watched me throughout my career and

538
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 9: they give me all the support and love, and it's like,

539
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 9: like I enjoyed, I said work, I enjoy.

540
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: I enjoy when I do so half fun. You see

541
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: me on the court, see me in in the back.

542
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: I just I just love what I do.

543
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

544
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 3: Just a goofy forty one year old kid. That's all

545
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: Lebron James is. That's all he's ever been. Just a

546
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 3: goofy kid that loves playing basketball with no ulterior motives

547
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: or reasoning. It's not like there's an All Star Game

548
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: coming up in Los Angeles where he may want to

549
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: be fetted and appreciated and honored and get those great ovations,

550
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: because you know what, he's just he's just basically Carrie.

551
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: He's a kid who's playing basketball at forty one. Funny

552
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: is just a kid.

553
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're a kid with the ball. I'm sure.

554
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure that was a little bit of that, Dan,

555
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: But uh, it's a lot of the other stuff as well,

556
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: which we know, we know his uh propensity to make

557
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: comments ahead of certain things. Too, like you said, you know,

558
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: kind of yeah, give himself some grace and and get

559
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: some adoration from the people that are about to be

560
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 4: blessed with his presence. But yeah, this is this is

561
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: what Lebron does. And obviously I wish this was the narrative,

562
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: and I think there was an opportunity for this to

563
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: be his narrative. Early on in his career, people loved him.

564
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: He was beloved as that guy the next person. Now

565
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 4: what we've witnessed is just somebody that's overstayed there, welcome,

566
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: and along the way has had to push himself amongst

567
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: the greats or to be considered one of the greats,

568
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: instead of letting that play out. So everything about him

569
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: we know has an agenda, and the agenda behind this

570
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: is probably what you just said, Dan. I mean, he's

571
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: about to be in la he's in his you know,

572
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: in the in the state where he in the city

573
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: where he plays his basketball these days, and he would

574
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: want some appreciation from all the people that are coming

575
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: and again, this might be his last one. So I

576
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: agree with that, Dan.

577
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 3: Jason Stewart.

578
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 6: You know, there's when people read magazines. US Weekly was

579
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 6: a magazine and they had this little feature called They're

580
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: just like Us. And that's what I think when I

581
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 6: think about Lebron Jenius, who among us hasn't made a

582
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: billion dollars by age forty one, and he's just a kid.

583
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 6: He's just a kid out there. I think that, uh, Lebron,

584
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 6: among all the things that he's going to be known for,

585
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: I think he has like and he I think he

586
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: does his patrol us. But I think one of the

587
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 6: things that he will be known for when this the

588
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 6: documentary is made about him, is he's so disingenuous. Yes,

589
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: but he's smart enough to know the right things to say.

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 6: He's just he's horrible at acting natural when he does

591
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 6: these things. He's a bad actor, Kerry bad act. You

592
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 6: saw Space Damn, didn't you? So you saw the second

593
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 6: Space Damn didn't you?

594
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's no Heck, I've seen that horrible horrible.

595
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not good.

596
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: I haven't even seen the first one. To be honest,

597
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: I know you.

598
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: When you said that to me, Dan, that really upset me.

599
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 7: I'm coming over. We're watching it with Brody and that's it.

600
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 7: I'm coming over to we're watching the first base Time

601
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 7: is so good.

602
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: It is so good.

603
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: He hit on all the he hit on all the

604
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: key points. Forty one year old kid. Yeah, my being

605
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: able to play with my son. Yeah, they pay me

606
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: to play basketball. Happiness. Wasn't it like three days ago

607
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: where he was like, we're not a championship team. That's

608
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: a championship team over there. Yes, Yeah, that's just that's

609
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: a kid talk. That's child's play. This guy's amazing. But

610
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: hopefully he'll get his flowers this weekend. We'll see or

611
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: maybe the wall will boo him at the All Star Game.

612
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: We'll find out. All Star Weekend is here. He's carry Roads.

613
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: That's Mancy Belanials. Jason Stewart's here as his Iowa Sam.

614
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: We're hanging out at Stut gottson Company Live. Stut Gotts

615
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: and Crew will be back next week.

616
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

617
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

618
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

619
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: listen live.

620
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: If you missed any of today's show, you want to

621
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: catch the podcast to search Stu Gotts and Company Live

622
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's

623
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: full show will be posted. Also, a best of version.

624
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: Be sure to follow the podcast right at five Stars.

625
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: You can even provide a review again just search Stu

626
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: Gotts and Company Live and be sure to also check

627
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: out our original podcast, Stu Gotts and Company and God

628
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: Bless Football. I am Dan Byer. That's Carry Rhods Monty

629
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: Belanios this year, as is Jason Stewart and Iowa Sam

630
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: in for Stu Gotts. We serve the role as company

631
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: today and as we wrap up the week, it's a huge,

632
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: huge weekend, Carrie Rhodes. You've got the NBA All Star Game,

633
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: You've got the Daytona five hundred that you can see

634
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: on Fox. You've got Pebble Beach going on, and we've

635
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: got the Winter Olympics and on Netflix. Have you seen

636
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: the Miracle documentary that they did on the nineteen eighty

637
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: US hockey team.

638
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it.

639
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've seen Space Jam, but you haven't seen

640
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: the documentary. I have seen the documentary, but haven't seen

641
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: the original Space Jam. So I think we're even take

642
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: that months. Have you seen the Miracle doc Did you

643
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: see that on Netflix?

644
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 6: No?

645
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: Noja, I know Jason Stewart has You've seen both? Jason,

646
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: I would assume.

647
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: I have not seen Space jam okay. I very much

648
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 6: recommend the documentary for anyone who hasn't seen it. It's great.

649
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: It's not a hockey documentary, by the way. It's a

650
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 6: story about Russia and the United States and the eighties.

651
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: It's great Soviet Union dominant in hockey up until that,

652
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: until that matchup against the United States. The spoiler alert,

653
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: of course, is that the US wins. But the reason

654
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: why it was the as some call it, the greatest

655
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: sporting event in America, the greatest game in American sports

656
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: history is everything that came with it and how dominant

657
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: the Soviet Union was. So what I've decided to do

658
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: is test you guys. You'll work as a team, carry

659
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: your team up with Moncie, Jason and Sam, and you'll

660
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: come to a consensus. It's a game we are calling

661
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: today on stut Gotson Company.

662
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Live Odds and Ends.

663
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: I am going to have you determine whether the numbers

664
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: I give you are either super Bowl odds for Super

665
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Bowl sixty one for a team, or are they the

666
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: end of game results from the Soviet hockey team in

667
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies, in nineteen eighties, in the Olympics, okay,

668
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: because they were absolutely dominant. You have to tell me,

669
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: is it a Super Bowl odd, a Soviet endgame or both?

670
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: Or both? Okay? So if I were to say to you,

671
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: eleven to one, is that the odds of a team

672
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl next year according to bet online?

673
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: Is that the end game score of a Soviet hockey

674
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: win in the nineteen seventies or eighties? Or is it

675
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: both eleven one? What would you say, crew eleven to one?

676
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: I would probably say that was an end game, a

677
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: score for the for the Soviet Union?

678
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: Are you good with that?

679
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean, let me say, I mean, I'm looking at faces, Jason.

680
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: It feels like a both to me. But if you guys,

681
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 6: if you really want.

682
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: That one eleven to one for a team to win

683
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl is really really really high or low?

684
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: Meaning I mean low.

685
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: Monty just has a very confused look on.

686
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: Her a little bit.

687
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: But I was originally gonna say what Jason said if

688
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: I'm correct, But I again.

689
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 7: You guys saw my face some of it. I could

690
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 7: I could see both it being both, but I also

691
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 7: I don't know it would be the team as eleven

692
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 7: to one to win a Super Bowl.

693
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 6: Next year that could be the Eagles.

694
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: No, no way, Okay, I guess that makes a good point,

695
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

696
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I guess it is.

697
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 4: I would say just Russian. I would just say Russell hockey.

698
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: I'll just try to just so sorry.

699
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 7: Soviet hockey score.

700
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it a Soviet endgame? No, it's the Baltimore

701
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: Ravens odds to wow sixty one wow, eleven until one,

702
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens eleven to one? Wow? What about twelve to one?

703
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: What about twelve to one? Is that Super Bowl odds,

704
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: Soviet hockey game score or both?

705
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: I will have to say the Soviet hockey score. I

706
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: don't think you would go back to back. Hold on,

707
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 4: maybe you go both? Do you think it goes both

708
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: this time?

709
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: That's the genius of this game.

710
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: What do you guys think it.

711
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 6: Can also just be odds?

712
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Yeah, every game could be both.

713
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 7: Okay, I mean this feels like shot shooting in the dark.

714
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 4: Yar I no idea?

715
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 6: I know both both both.

716
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 4: That's just fine. Let's go both to both?

717
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

718
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: Both? Is it both?

719
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: No?

720
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: Don't run it? Manzi. Soviets beat Poland in nineteen eighty

721
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: four twelve to one in an Olympic hockey game.

722
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: Come on, Sam, stick to your guns.

723
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: What about what about sixteen to one?

724
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: Now? Sixteen to one? Definitely sounds like both, I.

725
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: Mean, does it? I mean?

726
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 5: I know?

727
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Dan, I gotta take both at sometimes.

728
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: I know that.

729
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: That's what I'm just going by logic here.

730
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 6: Jack, carry's playing the odds and the ends.

731
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: No, let's go for this. Gotta be football. Long They

732
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: didn't beat me boy, sixteen to one, did they. Let's

733
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: just go football odds.

734
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: Dan, Okay, is it super Bowl odds? No, it's both.

735
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: The forty nine ers are sixteen to one to win

736
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: Super Bowl sixty one. And sorry, Poland, the Soviets beat

737
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: you in nineteen seventy six by a score of sixteen

738
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: to one.

739
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like this game.

740
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, three, you're like the Poland of this game. Like, okay,

741
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: what about twenty to two, twenty to two.

742
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: Twenty to two?

743
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 10: Guys, don't don't leave me out here by my up

744
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 10: on listen, let me come on, we need to outsmart

745
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 10: this one. I mean, twenty to two would never be odds.

746
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 10: We know that, Dan, it'd be ten to one. So

747
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 10: it's gotta be the Soviet score.

748
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, concur, all right, is it the Soviet score?

749
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 10: No?

750
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: I doctored it.

751
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: It's Super Bowl odds. The Rams are ten to one,

752
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: but I made it twenty to two just for the.

753
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 6: Same that's fair.

754
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: Yes, find rules.

755
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: Finally, finally, what about eight to one? I don't know.

756
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 6: It's the problem.

757
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: Eight to one. It's both, Dan, it's both, okay, Dan,

758
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 4: it's both.

759
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: Show me both your Seattle Seahawks defending Super Bowl champions

760
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: eight to one, and the Soviets beat Poland in nineteen

761
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: eighty eight to one. Sorry Poland and sorry Seahawks. We'll

762
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: tell you why next on Fox